KotCzarny | btw. sorting depends on locale set | 14:23 |
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sixwheeledbeast^ | ah locale | 14:23 |
Anasko | I would prefer to use Conversations, not web browser, for IRC, but Conversations seems to be stuck somewhere. And the only instance I could find of this particular text of error was in source code repository of locale pack for the application. As if no user ever encountered this error. | 15:03 |
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sixwheeledbeast | https://www.goeuro.com/travel-search/results/1051129599/bus?locale=en | 21:29 |
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mickname | It reboot after the dots hands animation, after reinserting battery, it allows to setup the locale stuff but shuts down after that, | 21:02 |
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CatButts | for starters, the n900 has keypad which might be either 4 keys for direction or 2 keys for direction with modifier for other two directions, depending on locale | 17:04 |
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Maxdamantus | UnboundLocalError: local variable 'bitstocopy' referenced before assignment | 12:13 |
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Pali | or locale which part is responsible for wpa | 23:12 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | reflash modem with another locale version? **maybe** | 20:28 |
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Enrico_Menotti | I re-flashed my N900, but after that only the locale, date and time setting screen appeared. | 20:29 |
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Enrico_Menotti | Ah. As I have read around, systemd has also something to do with locales. But I may be completely wrong. | 23:14 |
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sicelo | well i admitted that my knowledge is 'old' .. but even systemd should then set correct locale? and you adjust the correct files for your locale? i don't see where problem would be | 23:17 |
freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: honestly, your system locale is German?!? | 00:28 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | try the key right of "T" and the key your locale "yes" word starts with | 15:42 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | something in the wider topic "locale" | 15:44 |
KotCzarny | also output of: locale | 15:45 |
Enrico_Menotti | My locale. | 15:48 |
DocScrutinizer05 | now thinking about it I guess the BUG was: apt asks for "yes/no" but expects reply in locale set | 15:52 |
DocScrutinizer05 | on a more technical level: apt localization broken for some locales, when asking for yes/no reply | 15:52 |
DocScrutinizer05 | so either in "apt 0.7.20.2maemo13.2 for armel compiled on Dec 23 2014 22:50:05" or in my system's locale settings (incl the locale translation files) it's fixed. Or I messed up and forgot about some detail during test | 16:06 |
dreamer | ah, needed package liblocale-gettext-perl | 00:29 |
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KotCzarny | /usr/share/locale etc | 18:47 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | if by any chance you could use the german locale in twinkle, try it. It's *awesome* (and by me ;-P ) | 01:05 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | also the path shown (and used) in this upper dirtree button is depending on name of device and locale | 22:27 |
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ebzzry | BTW, when installing catorise, I got: "Can't locate Locale/gettext.pm in @INC ..." | 10:06 |
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ebzzry | I've borked my locales. Now the time shows up as wdgt_va_24h_time. How can I restore it? | 16:00 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ebzzry: hmm, you probabaly messed up the locale cache, a 24MB size closed blob file | 16:01 |
ebzzry | Is it /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive? | 16:03 |
DocScrutinizer05 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 23911920 Feb 19 2010 /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive | 16:03 |
KotCzarny | i think you can try putting en_US UTF-8 in /etc/local.gen and running locale-gen script | 16:04 |
DocScrutinizer05 | 0c0677ff23708192bc8e46187d9dedcf /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive | 16:09 |
DocScrutinizer05 | wget http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/locale/locale-archive | 16:10 |
DocScrutinizer05 | moved it to http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/lib/locale/locale-archive | 16:17 |
KotCzarny | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 23911920 Feb 19 2010 /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive | 20:58 |
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freemangordon | stryngs: yes, you'll have, with locales ;) | 18:06 |
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freemangordon | bencoh: no, the problem is that gcc, at least 4.6 and 4.7.2 are miscompiling glibc, leading to broken locales on the device | 18:07 |
stryngs | freemangordon: How do you know the locales are broken? | 18:09 |
nox- | or locale | 01:45 |
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reinob | kerio: that's when rebooting. I think it's some fvck up in glsl. seems to use the fvcking locale causing it to fail to compile things like "2.5" when it thinks it should be "2,5" | 21:05 |
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int_ua | languageregional applet is broken, how do I list all enabled locales on N900 from CLI? | 14:43 |
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int_ua | What's the default /etc/locale.gen on N900? | 14:44 |
int_ua | I've installed locales package trying to debug clockd, run locale-gen and got locales completely broken | 14:45 |
DocScrutinizer05 | int_ua: locales on maemo are "broken by factory" - all locales are in the cache file only, making for a 20+MB of locale data that can't get edited | 14:48 |
int_ua | DocScrutinizer05, should I just delete locales package? | 14:49 |
DocScrutinizer05 | int_ua: you can't delete locale package, I dunno what installs that monster 20MB locale.cache(?) | 14:50 |
int_ua | locale_S_ package | 14:50 |
DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# ll /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive | 14:53 |
DocScrutinizer05 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 23911920 2010-02-19 11:58 /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive | 14:53 |
DocScrutinizer05 | there are things like software versions of the flash-events the device seen, IMEI, BT mac, locale, kbd default layout, etc pp | 19:04 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I definitely seen a go/nogo in a A/B comparison between a N900 with and one without SIM, both locale DE_de and with a previous fix and with no network connectivity on either WLAN or WWAN | 22:59 |
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Mike77 | perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = (unset), LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = "it_IT.UTF-8" are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). This is a restricted account. | 18:24 |
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honestly | I also forgot how to set an utf-8 locale... | 02:52 |
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hxka | honestly: All N900 locales are utf-8 | 08:43 |
* DocScrutinizer05 glares at that 22MB locale.cache file | 16:25 |
FIQ | how come when I try to make sensible error messages (i.e. not swedish error output) by using LANG=C (insertstuffhere), N900 responds with not changing the locale at all, *but* happily screwing up åäö (probably because of utf8 fail) | 00:16 |
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wnd | I usually set LC_ALL, LANG and LANGUAGE when I need to temporarily use locale other than the default | 00:19 |
DocScrutinizer05 | well, it seems maemo is setting RD according to CAL and maybe LOCALE | 23:54 |
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t3st3r | strange, I've attempted to change locale and so on and it had zero effect. | 23:55 |
enyc | having fun setting global environment varibles no clear way todo it ... seeemnigly adding to /etc/osso-af-init/locale works | 18:48 |
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Pali | there is one very big, part of ssu (which I did not touched!): posix-locales | 00:16 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | it's all locales | 00:18 |
freemangordon | but i doubt locales can be optified | 00:18 |
* DocScrutinizer05 blames Nokia's bad-to-the-bones rotten mindset to not FOSS locales | 00:23 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | jonwil could RE this friggin blob locale.cache 23MB, and split it into original locale text files one for each locale | 00:28 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Nokia "tarred up" the 39some locales into that locales.cache and never published the original files from which that locales.cache got built | 00:32 |
Pali | looks like package is open: http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo5.0/free/p/posix-locales/ | 00:32 |
freemangordon | posix-locales_2.7.2-1maemo7-binonly0+0m5.tar.gz doesn't exactly look like source package :) | 00:33 |
Pali | https://maemo.gitorious.org/maemo-af/posix-locales | 00:33 |
Pali | freemangordon: it looks like posix-locales 2.7.2-1maemo7-binonly0+0m5 is based on git version 2.7.2-1maemo6 | 00:42 |
Pali | binary from http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo5.0/free/p/posix-locales/ | 00:44 |
Pali | and source from https://maemo.gitorious.org/maemo-af/posix-locales | 00:45 |
Pali | on http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo5.0/free/p/posix-locales/ is version 2.7.2-1maemo7-binonly0+0m5 | 00:45 |
Pali | and on https://maemo.gitorious.org/maemo-af/posix-locales 2.7.2-1maemo6 | 00:45 |
Pali | find source files of package posix-locales | 00:46 |
Pali | look at http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo5.0/free/p/posix-locales/posix-locales_2.7.2-1maemo7-binonly0%2b0m5.tar.gz | 00:46 |
Pali | these are posix locales | 00:47 |
Pali | not microb locales | 00:47 |
Pali | posix locales are used in coreutils, gnu apps, etc. | 00:47 |
DocScrutinizer05 | http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo5.0/free/p/posix-locales/posix-locales_2.7.2-1maemo7-binonly0+0m5.tar.gz has zilch | 00:48 |
Pali | from https://maemo.gitorious.org/maemo-af/posix-locales by script update-from-git.sh | 00:49 |
DocScrutinizer05 | https://maemo.gitorious.org/maemo-af/posix-locales/source/94d56d5480188e718bcace41ebe27f83b00f5a04:locales/de_DE looks pretty sparse | 00:51 |
DocScrutinizer05 | it's the plain locale format definitions, no texts | 00:51 |
DocScrutinizer05 | it however comes from /user/lib/locale/locale-archive | 00:58 |
DocScrutinizer05 | but aiui he was able to do this only because he had access to those non-published sourcefiles which the 23MB megablob locale-archibve gets built from | 01:01 |
DocScrutinizer05 | otherwise I'd happily nuke that 23MB monster with all the cz_CZ and hu_HU and whatnot texts in it, and replace it by non-archived de_DE and en_EN locales only, which would eat <500k | 01:04 |
DocScrutinizer05 | RE/"decompress" and split into locales of that locale-archive 22.8MB would indeed be a heroic achievement and do a lot of benefit for maemo | 01:16 |
r00t|home | http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Standard-Locales.html | 01:59 |
r00t|home | This is the standard C locale. The attributes and behavior it provides are specified in the ISO C standard. When your program starts up, it initially uses this locale by default. '' | 01:59 |
r00t|home | note that locales are not just text translations, also behaviour of various i/o and string functions | 02:00 |
r00t|home | been wondering myself and looked it up, 5th google hit for: c locale | 02:03 |
DocScrutinizer05 | do you know of any tool to "unpack" locales-archive? | 02:04 |
sono | i changed the system locale to .UTF-8 and sourced it | 00:50 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive 29763056 bytes | 06:13 |
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Lithdk | Also I had to set locale, time and date so I dont think he did anything to it tbh | 15:44 |
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psycho_oreos | I guess it depends on where you set your locale and *possibly* the firmware you flashed N900 with. | 16:41 |
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povbot_ | Bug 8291: Enable CONFIG_LOCALE_SUPPORT in busybox | 04:36 |
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FIQ|n900 | but anything else than yes (i.e. anything else than j in swedish locale) aborts | 04:37 |
povbot_ | Bug 8291: Enable CONFIG_LOCALE_SUPPORT in busybox | 01:08 |
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povbot_ | Bug 8291: Enable CONFIG_LOCALE_SUPPORT in busybox | 01:10 |
povbot_ | Bug 8291: Enable CONFIG_LOCALE_SUPPORT in busybox | 01:18 |
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