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| totalizator | bencoh: feh for M5 is in the repo already if you are interested and I have built other super lightweight image viewer called sxiv | 00:16 |
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| bencoh | yay :) | 00:17 |
| bencoh | thx | 00:17 |
| bencoh | oh, didnt know sxiv | 00:17 |
| bencoh | I'll try that :) | 00:18 |
| bencoh | (both) | 00:18 |
| totalizator | a random discovery when browsing github :3 | 00:18 |
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| Maxdamantus | Hm. Battery at the point that I expected it to shut down, though it's still at 3.6 V. | 01:38 |
| Maxdamantus | I guess it's not as bad as I predicted. | 01:38 |
| Maxdamantus | Maybe having a high load confuses the chip, where it things less power is drawn than actually is. | 01:40 |
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| ecc3g | or the battery has high internal resistance and a high load makes the voltage droop down below threshold... | 01:42 |
| Maxdamantus | If that makes sense, maybe. | 01:43 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | is it a new battery? | 01:57 |
| Maxdamantus | So how does it guess the charge without the bq27200 system? | 01:57 |
| Maxdamantus | No. The battery that came with the device I bought a year ago. | 01:57 |
| Maxdamantus | Does it just take an average voltage? | 01:57 |
| sixwheeledbeast | maybe it's getting tired? | 01:57 |
| Maxdamantus | I haven't noticed anything particularly wrong with the battery. | 01:58 |
| Maxdamantus | Just been experimenting with bme-replacement recently. | 01:58 |
| Maxdamantus | and noticed the last two times it died after it looked like bq27200 had counted about 1000 mAh | 01:59 |
| sixwheeledbeast | oh, I got the impression you where diagnosing a battery issue. | 01:59 |
| bencoh | totalizator: is just me or sxiv really is slower than feh ? | 02:02 |
| bencoh | totalizator: have you tried portrait mode in feh ? it's ... funny :) | 02:05 |
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| ecc3g | The battery in my n900 probably should be retired soon... it's like 4 years old now... | 02:06 |
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| Maxdamantus | Mk, I think it's dropping now, so my prediction wasn't too far off. | 02:08 |
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| Maxdamantus | Okay, looks like it used 1100 mAh that time. | 03:03 |
| bencoh | is that a fresh new battery ? | 03:04 |
| Maxdamantus | No. | 03:04 |
| Maxdamantus | I'm just trying to calibrate it. | 03:04 |
| Maxdamantus | it lasts long enough. | 03:05 |
| Maxdamantus | 20 hours. | 03:05 |
| Maxdamantus | so now it says 1177 mAh is the full charge. | 03:06 |
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| uhhimhere | hi guys | 12:40 |
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| totalizator | bencoh: sxiv may be slower, I dunno; feh seems better as it can open images directly via http and this is what I need | 15:22 |
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| stryngs | Anyone know if ghost affects maemo? | 16:45 |
| stryngs | fricking wonderful | 16:48 |
| stryngs | vulnerable | 16:48 |
| bencoh | virtually everything released between 2000 and 2013 is vuln | 16:51 |
| bencoh | (at least its glibc is, the fact that it can be effectively exploited is out of scope) | 16:51 |
| stryngs | yep | 16:52 |
| stryngs | i ran code to verify we are vuln =/ | 16:52 |
| stryngs | So... If i compile the newest glibc w/patch, will that break stuff bencoh ? | 16:52 |
| bencoh | the newest glibc ? ABI breaks :) | 16:53 |
| bencoh | well, it *might* break | 16:53 |
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| stryngs | Ok, so what do we do? | 16:53 |
| bencoh | try and port the patch to our glibc | 16:53 |
| stryngs | I patched bash with no major issues, but bash isn't as underlying as a c library to maemo | 16:54 |
| bencoh | bash isnt used anywhere | 16:54 |
| stryngs | Whats ABI bencoh ? | 16:54 |
| stryngs | I used it bencoh =) Hence my need to patch | 16:54 |
| stryngs | use rather | 16:54 |
| bencoh | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_binary_interface | 16:54 |
| * stryngs goes 'ah' | 16:55 | |
| stryngs | How do you know it breaks the abi? | 16:56 |
| stryngs | Just trying to figure out hwere to start from.. | 16:56 |
| stryngs | I definately want to patch this | 16:56 |
| bencoh | 15:53 < bencoh> well, it *might* break | 16:56 |
| bencoh | I dunno where we stand for regarding glibc upgrade, but some people had a look at it iirc | 16:57 |
| stryngs | ok | 16:57 |
| stryngs | Well I'm going to go with lowest version of glibc as possible | 16:57 |
| bencoh | s/for// | 16:57 |
| infobot | bencoh meant: I dunno where we stand regarding glibc upgrade, but some people had a look at it iirc | 16:57 |
| stryngs | I'll compile and see what happens, if good I'll port it i guess | 16:57 |
| stryngs | It's just i don't build in sb | 16:58 |
| stryngs | I build natively so my debs aren't normal | 16:58 |
| stryngs | not sure if the community is rdy for that =/ | 16:58 |
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| freemangordon | glibc can be (and is) upgraded via CSSU | 17:06 |
| * stryngs doesn't use CSSU | 17:07 | |
| stryngs | =) | 17:07 |
| bencoh | freemangordon: freely ? | 17:12 |
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| freemangordon | bencoh: hmm? | 18:02 |
| freemangordon | can't parse your question | 18:03 |
| bencoh | does everything work with the latest glibc ? | 18:04 |
| bencoh | (cssu-s still has 2.5.3 btw) | 18:04 |
| bencoh | (err 2.5.1) | 18:04 |
| freemangordon | yes, it is 2.5.1, but fit patches on top of the stock | 18:05 |
| freemangordon | *with | 18:05 |
| stryngs | 2.18 is compiling...... | 18:05 |
| freemangordon | BTW the problem with upgrading glibc seems to be qith gcc, not glibc itself | 18:05 |
| freemangordon | *with | 18:05 |
| stryngs | yep... need 4.6 | 18:05 |
| stryngs | =) | 18:05 |
| freemangordon | ...and it miscompiles it | 18:06 |
| stryngs | ill upload my deb if yall want | 18:06 |
| stryngs | no issues here | 18:06 |
| stryngs | currently in the make stage | 18:06 |
| freemangordon | stryngs: yes, you'll have, with locales ;) | 18:06 |
| bencoh | freemangordon: yeah, which means upgrading libgcc too ... | 18:06 |
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| freemangordon | bencoh: no, the problem is that gcc, at least 4.6 and 4.7.2 are miscompiling glibc, leading to broken locales on the device | 18:07 |
| stryngs | oh | 18:07 |
| stryngs | i see | 18:07 |
| stryngs | but we all speak english =) | 18:08 |
| bencoh | freemangordon: how do the others do ? | 18:08 |
| bencoh | the other distribs for instance | 18:08 |
| freemangordon | includeing those, you end up with _fi_whatever_the_nokia_dev_madeup_ instead of the real text | 18:09 |
| freemangordon | bencoh: no idea | 18:09 |
| stryngs | freemangordon: How do you know the locales are broken? | 18:09 |
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| bencoh | OE builds with gcc4.8.2 for instance | 18:10 |
| bencoh | but they build eglibc | 18:11 |
| freemangordon | stryngs: there is a thread on TMO about upgrading libc | 18:11 |
| freemangordon | it is eglibc what we have here afaik | 18:13 |
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| bencoh | then it should build with gcc4.8 :) | 18:15 |
| stryngs | we don't have gcc4.8 though | 18:23 |
| stryngs | do we? | 18:24 |
| freemangordon | ве дон;т | 18:29 |
| freemangordon | sorry | 18:29 |
| freemangordon | we don't | 18:29 |
| freemangordon | Pali: any idea what is 2nd.bin? | 18:30 |
| Pali | used for coldflashing | 18:30 |
| Pali | 2nd.bin + secondary.bin is send via usb and 2nd.bin is booted by omap bootrom | 18:30 |
| Pali | no idea what is difference between 2nd.bin and xloader.bin... | 18:30 |
| freemangordon | Pali: thanks | 18:31 |
| Pali | maybe 2nd.bin enable something which is disabled by xloader? | 18:31 |
| freemangordon | yeah, maybe | 18:31 |
| freemangordon | do we have any clue what is signed, hashed, etc. and how? | 18:32 |
| freemangordon | Pali: I guess there is one signature of the public key, with TI private, and one signature of the binary, with Nokia private, correct< | 18:34 |
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| Pali | no idea | 18:34 |
| Pali | try to ask jacekowski | 18:35 |
| freemangordon | hehe :D | 18:35 |
| Pali | he had tool for signing x-loader images... | 18:35 |
| freemangordon | ~seen jacekowski | 18:35 |
| infobot | jacekowski <jacekowski@jacekowski.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 360d 16h 30m 11s ago, saying: 'i couldn't resist'. | 18:35 |
| freemangordon | he did a rage-quit iirc | 18:35 |
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| bencoh | :/ | 18:40 |
| Pali | https://github.com/milaq/android_device_lge_p940/blob/cm-10.2/releasetools/ifttool/signimg.sh | 18:41 |
| Pali | looks like signing tool is called ift | 18:41 |
| Pali | (referenced from https://github.com/swetland/omap4boot/issues/8) | 18:41 |
| stryngs | !tmo | 18:42 |
| stryngs | !info tmo | 18:43 |
| stryngs | hmm | 18:43 |
| stryngs | ~tmo | 18:43 |
| infobot | it has been said that tmo is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TMO, or http://talk.maemo.org, or http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrestrial_Trunked_Radio#TMO. It's *not* T-MO (see ~T-MO) or trolls, morons, oxen. | 18:43 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: yeah, and I couldn;t find it | 18:44 |
| freemangordon | though I just downloaded the signing tool mentioned here http://wiki.maemo.org/Firmware_hacking#X-Loader_Hacking | 18:45 |
| freemangordon | hmm, there are some keys with it | 18:47 |
| freemangordon | actually LOTS OF keys | 18:47 |
| freemangordon | and there is configuration for HS/EMU devices | 18:47 |
| freemangordon | it is in folder Security/IFT | 18:48 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: it seems that SW can sign xloaders for HS devices | 19:00 |
| Pali | yes "OMAP3430 CSST Binary Release" is that tool found by jacekowski | 19:01 |
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| Pali | and he told that tool is for signing xloader (if you have private key) | 19:02 |
| Pali | Firmware_hacking wiki page? | 19:02 |
| Pali | I did not know about it | 19:02 |
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| vakkov | http://wiki.maemo.org/Firmware_hacking#X-Loader_Hacking <--- 2nd.bin is signed; secondary.bin is not | 19:04 |
| vakkov | #needsediting ;D | 19:05 |
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| freemangordon | well, that's correct, secondary is NOLO | 19:06 |
| freemangordon | Pali: *which* private key? TI? | 19:06 |
| Pali | I think we do not know if key is owned by TI or Nokia... | 19:07 |
| freemangordon | for sure there is at least on key owned by TI | 19:07 |
| freemangordon | *BUT* we can ask TI to sign a certificate for us | 19:07 |
| freemangordon | and that would becoe a valid signing certificate :) | 19:08 |
| freemangordon | *become | 19:08 |
| freemangordon | hmm, actually Neo900 would need on | 19:09 |
| freemangordon | *one | 19:09 |
| stryngs | zomg... | 19:13 |
| stryngs | still building | 19:13 |
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| stryngs | gezuz | 19:13 |
| stryngs | +1 hr to build | 19:13 |
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| Pali | I post this link also here: http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f83/nokia-rsa-private-key-195f111a9543a8644e77e1677296ab23-free-1490743/ | 19:32 |
| Pali | freemangordon: by chance, can you extract keys/certificates from xloader and check if above one is not valid? :D | 19:34 |
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| stryngs | wtf... 2 files in /var/log? | 22:33 |
| stryngs | is this normal? | 22:33 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Anybody know if it is possible to set WLAN priorities on N900? | 22:35 |
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| stryngs | Should /var/log have files?!? | 22:50 |
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| Pali | why not? | 23:05 |
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| stryngs | Pali: heh. my /var/log has two files...wtf | 23:27 |
| Pali | syslog? fsck log? | 23:27 |
| stryngs | Nokia-N900:/var/log# ls | 23:27 |
| stryngs | maemo-optify-boottime.log pycentral.log | 23:28 |
| stryngs | thats it | 23:28 |
| stryngs | strange, eh? | 23:28 |
| Sicelo | not strange at all. i've got more :D | 23:29 |
| stryngs | yeah, but i should have more than 2 files | 23:29 |
| stryngs | wtf? | 23:29 |
| Sicelo | like? | 23:30 |
| stryngs | heck i dunno | 23:30 |
| stryngs | i just figured it should have more than that =) | 23:30 |
| Sicelo | no | 23:30 |
| stryngs | heh | 23:30 |
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| Sicelo | i have more because i installed packages which create logs there .. but those two you have are the 'standard' ones on maemo, as Pali indicated already | 23:31 |
| stryngs | 16:27 < Pali> syslog? fsck log? | 23:32 |
| stryngs | I have maemo-optify-boottime.log and pycentral.log | 23:32 |
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| Sicelo | 21:05 < Pali> why not? | 23:33 |
| Sicelo | anyway, g'nite | 23:33 |
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