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| Oksana | Where does MicroB store its search engine, aka, Google? I do not mean _default_ search which can be set in about:config; I mean the pop-up "Google" when typing in location bar. Theoretically, it should be an OpenSearch XML somewhere, but where?.. | 02:00 |
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| jonwil | The only place on a stock N900 filesystem I can find the relavent search URL is in all-maemo.js | 02:30 |
| jonwil | which is in usr/share/microb-engine/defaults/pref | 02:30 |
| jonwil | so presumably its set via a pref in that file that can be overridden by a local pref | 02:31 |
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| jonwil | yep, confirmed, the keyword.url pref IS the one that controls the search in the location bar and the default web screen with the bookmarks on it | 02:33 |
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| Oksana | Ok, confirmed. It goes against all the logic. If there is a microb-patch which creates this "Google Search"... It should be thrown away in favour of supporting OpenSearch xml thingies, like the ones from Mycroft. | 03:02 |
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| jonwil | We cant change it because one of the bits that use the pref (browser.launch) is closed source | 05:44 |
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| b1101 | how much do new n900's sell for ? | 08:17 |
| b1101 | I purchased one and am going to sell it unused | 08:17 |
| b1101 | It was my backup N900, and I don't think I could use it while not being completely paranoid about dropping/ruining it somehow, as I see no other option for a phone. I just purchased a T9 style phone and will use that until there is a real option | 08:19 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 11:12 |
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| cacaphony | Hello. I'm repeating a sound every 15 minutes with a simple script. However, when I start another application that makes sound, it stops working until I restart the program. Can anyone help with this? | 11:23 |
| cacaphony | Here's the bash script I'm running: http://pastebin.com/KdQFt2q3 | 11:23 |
| neal | I want to use my N900 as a backup internet connection (connected via USB to my router). But to establish a connection, I need to manually select "PC Suite". Is there a way to configure the N900 to automatically use pc suite mode? | 11:25 |
| neal | cacaphony: Do you get any output? | 11:31 |
| neal | cacaphony: Have you configured mplayer to use pulseaudio? | 11:32 |
| neal | cacaphony: If it is trying to use the raw devices and then pulseaudio grabs them, then it will be locked out. | 11:32 |
| wnd | I haven't really tried running mplayer and other sound producing programs on n900 but I'd check audio output plugin first, as neal is suggesting | 11:32 |
| wnd | you could try to use mplayer -ao pulse sound.wav | 11:33 |
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| Pali | hi, kernel-power v53 was released, see: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94287 | 19:29 |
| bencoh | yay | 19:29 |
| kerio | neat | 19:38 |
| reinob | wow thanks Pali | 19:38 |
| kerio | what does it do | 19:39 |
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| rZr | hi | 20:25 |
| stryngs | Whoa | 20:27 |
| stryngs | kp53 | 20:27 |
| stryngs | Pali: Is it stable with packet injection? | 20:28 |
| Pali | I think yes | 20:28 |
| stryngs | Very cool | 20:28 |
| stryngs | I will be testing that soon, I'll throw it into beta =) | 20:28 |
| stryngs | Pali: Is it stable without cssu? | 20:29 |
| Pali | kp has nothing with cssu | 20:29 |
| stryngs | right right, but most people here are all about cssu. I specifically avoid cssu for compatibility reasons | 20:30 |
| stryngs | Just wanted to make sure it wasn't relying on anything cssu after the upgrade =) | 20:30 |
| stryngs | url for changelog? | 20:30 |
| stryngs | Very happy to hear about this btw Pali, good job =) | 20:30 |
| Pali | see tmo thread | 20:30 |
| Pali | there is also changelog | 20:30 |
| * stryngs searches for the "tmo thread" | 20:31 | |
| Pali | see link ^^^^^ | 20:32 |
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| stryngs | Ah | 20:32 |
| Pali | ~tmo | 20:32 |
| infobot | i heard tmo is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TMO, or http://talk.maemo.org, or http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrestrial_Trunked_Radio#TMO. It's *not* T-MO (see ~T-MO) or trolls, morons, oxen. | 20:32 |
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| stryngs | pali: http://termbin.com/vhz0 | 20:34 |
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| stryngs | That's a listing of all my kernel related .debs | 20:35 |
| rZr | do you know chem|st email ? | 20:35 |
| Pali | stryngs: packages are in extras-devel & testing | 20:35 |
| Pali | just update to kp53 via application manager or apt-get | 20:35 |
| stryngs | I got that, what i was getting at, obviously things ending in power52 will be replaced | 20:36 |
| stryngs | i can't | 20:36 |
| stryngs | it's complicated how my n900 works | 20:36 |
| stryngs | A lot of rbinds | 20:36 |
| stryngs | so i have to figure out things "beforehand" =/ | 20:36 |
| Pali | hm? | 20:37 |
| stryngs | So I'm guessing the following will be replaced: .kernel-power-flasher_1%3a2.6.28-10power52_armel.deb, kernel-power-headers_1%3a2.6.28-10power52_armel.deb, kernel-power-modules_1%3a2.6.28-10power52_armel.deb, kernel-power_1%3a2.6.28-10power52_armel.deb | 20:37 |
| stryngs | BUt.... | 20:37 |
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| stryngs | What about kernel-maemo_2.6.28-maemo22_armel.deb, kernel-modules-maemo_2.6.28-maemo22_armel.deb, kernel-power-settings_0.17_armel.deb | 20:37 |
| stryngs | Do those 3 also get replaced? | 20:37 |
| Pali | -maemo packages are not used | 20:37 |
| Pali | do not install them | 20:37 |
| stryngs | oh really | 20:38 |
| stryngs | So having those installed is wrong hten?? | 20:38 |
| Pali | yes | 20:39 |
| stryngs | heh | 20:39 |
| stryngs | My system is stable, what makes it wrong out of a knowledge perspective? | 20:39 |
| Pali | -maemo are transitional packages | 20:39 |
| Pali | which should be removed (now) | 20:39 |
| kerio | Pali: why isn't kernel-power 53 in extras-devel? :o | 20:40 |
| Pali | ?? | 20:40 |
| Pali | maemo.org interface told that it is | 20:40 |
| bencoh | you mean "how comes it's already in -testing" ? | 20:40 |
| Pali | I clicked for promoting them to -testing | 20:40 |
| kerio | mh, it's not in merlin1991's extras-devel mirror | 20:41 |
| kerio | nvm | 20:41 |
| Pali | mirror is not up-to-date... | 20:41 |
| Pali | http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/k/kernel-power/ | 20:41 |
| Pali | there is kp53 | 20:41 |
| kerio | i guess it's going to be up-to-date eventually | 20:41 |
| bencoh | (hm, actually it's not in -testing according to maemo.org/packages webuit) | 20:41 |
| bencoh | webui* | 20:41 |
| Pali | maybe need to wait until that some process move them to -testing | 20:42 |
| bencoh | maybe | 20:42 |
| stryngs | Pali: Package: kernel-power-settings, U say do NOT install this? | 20:42 |
| Pali | only -maemo | 20:43 |
| stryngs | I'm not questioning your knowledge, just trying to make im damn sure right | 20:43 |
| Pali | settings is needed for overlock | 20:43 |
| stryngs | Ah | 20:43 |
| Pali | *overclock | 20:43 |
| stryngs | is 0.17 the newest? | 20:43 |
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| stryngs | I have 10kbps internet | 20:43 |
| Pali | no 0.18 | 20:43 |
| stryngs | so an apt-get update is "difficult" | 20:43 |
| Pali | http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/k/kernel-power-settings/ | 20:43 |
| stryngs | Ok | 20:44 |
| stryngs | So I will get anything power53, and purge kernel-maemo_2.6.28-maemo22_armel.deb and kernel-modules-maemo_2.6.28-maemo22_armel.deb | 20:44 |
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| stryngs | Pali, another dumb question: I try to only install what's needed, so I'm in: http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/k/kernel-power/. I see the following debs for kp53: kernel-power-bootimg_2.6.28-10power53_armel.deb, kernel-power-debug_2.6.28-10power53_armel.deb, kernel-power-flasher_2.6.28-10power53_armel.deb, kernel-power-headers_2.6.28-10power53_armel.deb, kernel-power-modules-deb | 20:49 |
| stryngs | ug_2.6.28-10power53_armel.deb, kernel-power-modules_2.6.28-10power53_armel.deb, kernel-power-source_2.6.28-10power53_all.deb, kernel-power_2.6.28-10power53_armel.deb , linux-kernel-power-headers_2.6.28-10power53_armel.deb | 20:49 |
| stryngs | I'm guessing I do NOT need every single one | 20:49 |
| Pali | why you not install it via application manager? | 20:49 |
| stryngs | The main thing, is that packet injection is capable | 20:49 |
| stryngs | Because i cannot | 20:49 |
| stryngs | This is for the PwnPhone | 20:49 |
| stryngs | Using rbinds for /usr and such | 20:49 |
| stryngs | Impossible to do | 20:49 |
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| stryngs | new kernel requires manual tinkering and dpkg -i to install | 20:49 |
| Pali | for normal flashing you need: kernel-power, -modules, -flasher | 20:50 |
| Pali | for uboot you need also -bootimg | 20:50 |
| Pali | for overclock you need -settings | 20:50 |
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| Pali | and for packet injection, see TMO thread | 20:51 |
| stryngs | so -debug, -modules-debug, -source, are all unneeded | 20:51 |
| bencoh | I guess upgrading kernel-power wont make it try to reflash kp in place of uboot (I have -bootimg) ? | 20:52 |
| stryngs | Thank u pali =) | 20:53 |
| Pali | if you have uboot in nand, you will be asked if you want to replace it with kernel or not | 20:54 |
| reinob | bencoh: just doing exactly that. it asks you to replace u-boot with new kp53. I closed the question (=no) | 20:54 |
| bencoh | oh, that's nice | 20:54 |
| Pali | just reject flashing of kernel into nand, you do not want to touch uboot | 20:54 |
| kerio | kernel features as dpkg dependencies is such a gross misuse of dpkg :c | 20:55 |
| reinob | yes that's it. going to reboot now. if u-boot was removed you'll know by me not coming back in the next hour or so.. :) | 20:56 |
| bencoh | :] | 20:56 |
| * Sicelo already agreed to overwrite uboot, :p | 20:58 | |
| * Sicelo has non-working usb btw | 20:58 | |
| Sicelo | but i think it's under control | 20:58 |
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| bencoh | erm :D | 20:59 |
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| reinob | I'm back | 21:02 |
| reinob | u-boot was preserved - OK | 21:02 |
| * Sicelo rebooting, after overwriting of uboot | 21:02 | |
| Sicelo | dots.. | 21:03 |
| reinob | first reboot failed, but this happens from time to time (race condition in preinit or such, when creating some device nodes) | 21:03 |
| kerio | lol i forgot i had uboot-bootimg installed as well | 21:03 |
| reinob | battery out and back in and I'm all set with u-boot and kp53 | 21:03 |
| Sicelo | hildon-desktop ;) | 21:03 |
| Sicelo | win | 21:03 |
| kerio | reinob: i sometimes get trashed graphics | 21:03 |
| kerio | because powervr | 21:03 |
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| reinob | kerio: that's when rebooting. I think it's some fvck up in glsl. seems to use the fvcking locale causing it to fail to compile things like "2.5" when it thinks it should be "2,5" | 21:05 |
| stryngs | Sicelo: I thought the dots were the desktop? There's more to the n900 than just moving dots??? | 21:05 |
| reinob | I mean, how brain damaged does one have to be to localize numbers, or compiler error messages! | 21:05 |
| reinob | both the racy preinit/rcS and the glsl crap are (for a long time) on my to-do list. I plan to retire in about 25 years. When that happens, I'll solve both issues :) | 21:07 |
| kerio | reinob: meh, it's such an awful collection of cruft that it's probably worth rebuilding it from scratch | 21:08 |
| kerio | see ~fptf | 21:09 |
| Sicelo | stryngs: just being at dots doesn't guarantee you will get into useable desktop. iirc some people have had issues where they get into boot loops at dots, or something similar | 21:11 |
| stryngs | I know =), I was poking fun Sicelo | 21:11 |
| stryngs | I guess i failed in my jokes | 21:11 |
| reinob | stryngs: FWIW I found your joke good :) | 21:14 |
| reinob | there's a number of maemo users whose only experience with maemo is staring at the dots until they buy another phone :) | 21:15 |
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| * Sicelo hasn't a sense of humor, presumably :D | 21:18 | |
| stryngs | hehe reinob =) | 21:18 |
| reinob | Sicelo: you replaced your kernel partition unintendedly, without having usb, and still managed to write about it as if it didn't bother you that much. that's some sense of humor :) | 21:19 |
| stryngs | hmm, question. For cssu, i've started disecting community-ssu-enabler_0.7-4_all.deb | 21:21 |
| stryngs | it seems that it just replaces repos, and does apt-get upgrade | 21:21 |
| reinob | careful with that. I've also "manually" installed CSSU-thumb on my spare N900 and it was a bit of a mess | 21:21 |
| stryngs | so if i grabbed appropriate .debs i wanted from http://repository.maemo.org/community, then i have all things cssu, yes? | 21:21 |
| stryngs | i'd love the upgraded packages, it's just things are "manual only" for my build | 21:22 |
| reinob | not really. the ssu-enabler contains AFAIR another .deb that needs to be installed | 21:23 |
| stryngs | yeah, its blank | 21:23 |
| reinob | if you really really need the information I can try to figure it out again. But you have plenty of cssu people here | 21:23 |
| stryngs | mp-fremantle-community-pr_0_all.deb | 21:24 |
| stryngs | Conflicts: mp-fremantle-generic-pr, mp-fremantle-203-pr, mp-fremantle-002-pr, mp-fremantle-003-pr | 21:24 |
| reinob | (but they will recommend doing the "supported" way) | 21:24 |
| stryngs | Replaces: mp-fremantle-generic-pr, mp-fremantle-203-pr, mp-fremantle-002-pr, mp-fremantle-003-pr | 21:24 |
| stryngs | that's it | 21:24 |
| stryngs | Of course they will | 21:24 |
| stryngs | I do things the hacker way =) | 21:24 |
| stryngs | http://termbin.com/mbdc | 21:24 |
| reinob | me too (mostly). but then you don't ask here. figure it out yourself like a real man.. or at least like I did :)))) | 21:24 |
| stryngs | Read that and youll understand why it's all manual | 21:24 |
| stryngs | Oh i am | 21:25 |
| stryngs | Just curious if there were any naught postinst/preinst scripts to be aware of | 21:25 |
| reinob | (that was a joke in case it was missed :) | 21:25 |
| reinob | stryngs: yes there are | 21:25 |
| stryngs | naughty naughty | 21:25 |
| * reinob laughs | 21:25 | |
| stryngs | do they do anything more than replace /etc/apt/sources.list? | 21:25 |
| stryngs | and launching ham, etc.. | 21:26 |
| reinob | beware of the python-optification crap | 21:26 |
| stryngs | I'm talking hardcore kernel stuff | 21:26 |
| stryngs | i hate pymaemo | 21:26 |
| stryngs | I'd shoot the developer if i could | 21:26 |
| reinob | me too. I had to remove something (sorry don't know anymore, can look it up still) because whenever the cssu installation started (apt-get upgrade) at some point my N900 would INSTANTLY reboot | 21:27 |
| reinob | not joking now! | 21:27 |
| reinob | it's some pymaemo prerm or postinst or what-fuck-ever which probably umounts /usr or something similar | 21:27 |
| bencoh | I wonder why he didnt just optify in dpkg-buildpackage | 21:28 |
| * reinob wonders why nokia didn't put /usr in the mmc directly from the start | 21:28 | |
| stryngs | ^^^^ | 21:29 |
| bencoh | yeah right ... but that's an old one | 21:29 |
| stryngs | honestly, we could reconfigure pymaemo, but i wonder what expects the rbind nonsense | 21:30 |
| reinob | hmm I can't find it [the problem]. /etc/init.d/pymaemo-optify only touches what's in /etc/default/pymaemo-optify, which only relates to python. | 21:33 |
| reinob | who volunteers to do "/etc/init.d/pymaemo-optify stop" and report back? | 21:33 |
| reinob | hell, I'll do it myself. I just ruined my >100 days uptime when upgrading kp, so what the heck | 21:34 |
| reinob | OK nothing happened. "can't unmount: resource or device busy" | 21:34 |
| reinob | maemo is just too robust :) | 21:34 |
| reinob | ^^ (joking) | 21:35 |
| stryngs | heh | 21:36 |
| stryngs | Here's the question | 21:36 |
| stryngs | Just rebuild the .deb itself | 21:36 |
| stryngs | The main thing is.... for the mounts it creates, do ANY packages that depend on it, do they rely on the new locations? | 21:36 |
| stryngs | if not, would be a simple fix | 21:36 |
| stryngs | dpkg -x <deb> . | 21:36 |
| stryngs | mkdir DEBIAN | 21:36 |
| stryngs | ar -x <deb> | 21:37 |
| stryngs | tar zxf control | 21:37 |
| stryngs | tar zxf control.tar.gz | 21:37 |
| stryngs | mv control post* pre* DEBIAN | 21:37 |
| stryngs | ......... Modify whatever .......... | 21:37 |
| stryngs | cd .. | 21:37 |
| stryngs | dpkg-deb -b <dir> . | 21:37 |
| stryngs | dpkg -i yer new package | 21:37 |
| stryngs | done deal =) | 21:37 |
| reinob | stryngs: you're talking about manually optifying a (python, or whatever) package | 21:38 |
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| stryngs | sure | 21:38 |
| stryngs | Simple | 21:38 |
| reinob | the pymaemo-optification mess is something you can't uninstall. the whole system depends on this crap | 21:38 |
| stryngs | I build .debs matively all day =) | 21:38 |
| reinob | we don't need it, but without it the whole thing breaks | 21:39 |
| stryngs | Not true | 21:39 |
| stryngs | I've hacked pymaemo before | 21:39 |
| * reinob just made the mental association with systemd. don't know why | 21:39 | |
| stryngs | But, with my newest pwnphone release, I reverted because i figured out how to get around the nonsense | 21:39 |
| stryngs | I just hate the mounts that clutter df output | 21:39 |
| reinob | me too | 21:39 |
| stryngs | So lets fix it | 21:39 |
| stryngs | What all Depends: on it? | 21:39 |
| stryngs | I'm all about hacking the n900 =) | 21:39 |
| reinob | but without the mounts (or symlinks) to need to put the stuff somewhere else (MMC) | 21:40 |
| stryngs | check the url i gave ya | 21:40 |
| reinob | you'd need to optify a lot of packages (pre)installed in maemo | 21:40 |
| stryngs | Why optify | 21:40 |
| stryngs | I dont | 21:40 |
| stryngs | i simply remap /usr | 21:40 |
| stryngs | /etc | 21:40 |
| stryngs | etc... | 21:40 |
| stryngs | http://termbin.com/fk5j | 21:41 |
| stryngs | there ya go | 21:41 |
| stryngs | /home/rootfs_bind | 21:41 |
| reinob | just checked your link. looks ugly :) | 21:41 |
| stryngs | Its ugly because of pymaemo | 21:41 |
| stryngs | But i build with --prefix=/usr all day now | 21:41 |
| reinob | yup | 21:41 |
| stryngs | No memory issues | 21:41 |
| stryngs | no running out of space on 256mb / | 21:41 |
| stryngs | etc.. | 21:41 |
| stryngs | It's a wonderful way to do stuff | 21:41 |
| rZr | chainsawbike, hi http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_Q4_2014#Nominated | 21:42 |
| reinob | not bad :) | 21:42 |
| rZr | reinob, congratz for beeing candidate | 21:42 |
| stryngs | It just makes certain things.......... "manual" | 21:42 |
| stryngs | i.e.. for a kernel upgrade, it requires a flash | 21:42 |
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| reinob | rZr: thanks | 21:42 |
| rZr | chem|st, ping | 21:42 |
| stryngs | because /opt, /usr, /sbin, /lib are mounted upon | 21:43 |
| rZr | reinob, may I suggest to edit your signature | 21:43 |
| rZr | reinob, to promote this election | 21:43 |
| rZr | reinob, election not yourself ;) | 21:43 |
| reinob | do I have one of those? | 21:43 |
| reinob | I mean, a signature? | 21:43 |
| rZr | reinob, see mine at bottom http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1451484#post1451484 | 21:44 |
| rZr | 3rd link | 21:44 |
| rZr | copy and paste | 21:44 |
| reinob | I think I have them filtered out | 21:44 |
| reinob | is this the "about me" here? (http://talk.maemo.org/member.php?u=51598&tab=aboutme&simple=1) | 21:45 |
| reinob | ah, found it :) | 21:45 |
| rZr | no | 21:45 |
| reinob | in control panel! | 21:45 |
| rZr | yea | 21:45 |
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| rZr | Morpog_PC__, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1451484#post1451484 same thread | 21:46 |
| rZr | qwazix, next one | 21:47 |
| rZr | sixwheeledbeast1, da! | 21:47 |
| reinob | rZr: signature - CHECK. Thanks for the heads up | 21:49 |
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| rZr | reinob, I dont see it maybe on next post | 21:50 |
| stryngs | hmm | 21:51 |
| reinob | rZr: just posted this http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1451496&postcount=4 | 21:52 |
| reinob | do you see the signature (I don't, but I never see them) | 21:52 |
| stryngs | http://termbin.com/shvf | 21:53 |
| stryngs | reinob: those are what requires pymaemo-optify | 21:53 |
| stryngs | looks easy enuf | 21:54 |
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| stryngs | reinob: looking at python2.5-minimal, it doesnt seem to use anything via dpkg --contents remotely related to pymaemo-optify | 21:55 |
| stryngs | so..... one could theorize that a fixing of pymaemo-optify could be done =) | 21:55 |
| reinob | that's only the direct dependencies. python2.5-minimal is needed by python2.5, which is required by lots of stuff | 21:56 |
| stryngs | right | 21:56 |
| stryngs | but... look at the /etc/init.d file | 21:56 |
| reinob | yup it's really nothing | 21:56 |
| stryngs | for d in $BIND_MOUNTS; do | 21:56 |
| stryngs | # remove any temporary mount --move targets | 21:56 |
| stryngs | rmdir $d.move.* 2>/dev/null | 21:56 |
| stryngs | mkdir -p $d $OPT_DIR/$d | 21:56 |
| stryngs | grep -q " $d " /proc/mounts || mount --bind $OPT_DIR/$d $d | 21:56 |
| stryngs | done | 21:56 |
| stryngs | it just makes "mounts" | 21:57 |
| stryngs | so in essence, its stupid | 21:57 |
| reinob | maybe I'm looking at the wrong place. maybe it was not the pymaemo-optify. I know that CSSU enabler depends on HAM, whcih I had uninstalled long ago | 21:57 |
| reinob | maybe that's where the trouble comes from | 21:57 |
| stryngs | My point i'm getting at, is that if people use a /home/rootfs_bind technique, they could negate pymaemo-optify | 21:57 |
| stryngs | because even with pymaemo-optify, eventually u fill up / | 21:57 |
| reinob | yes. sorry I still refer to the "original topic" of manually installing CSSU | 21:58 |
| stryngs | it doesn't address the root memory concern of the 256mb nand chip | 21:58 |
| stryngs | no worries =) | 21:58 |
| stryngs | i veered off | 21:58 |
| reinob | me too :) | 21:58 |
| stryngs | anywho, i'm going to do some research | 21:58 |
| stryngs | i'm going to install kp53 tonight, and chop the deb for pymaemo | 21:58 |
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| stryngs | i'll report tomorrow if my phone works right | 21:58 |
| stryngs | I'm pretty sure it does | 21:58 |
| reinob | are you on TMO? | 21:59 |
| rZr | reinob, yea it's there thanks | 21:59 |
| rZr | reinob, now you have to find someone who will do the same and so on.. | 21:59 |
| stryngs | /usr/lib/python2.5, /usr/share/pyshared, /usr/lib/pyshared, /usr/share/python-support, /usr/lib/python-support. Those are the affected dirs | 21:59 |
| reinob | I'm extremely new in IRC and I don't plan to use that much (unless I'm elected to the council). But I do read TMO every day | 21:59 |
| rZr | reinob, this is your candidate test ;-) | 21:59 |
| reinob | stryngs: I'd be happy if you posted your findings on TMO | 22:00 |
| stryngs | So what he was trying to do, was save space for / by doing the same thing i do | 22:00 |
| stryngs | I will | 22:00 |
| stryngs | Hell, i'll show my whole technique, I think I have the cleanest one (cept for the flash to upgrade kernel....) | 22:00 |
| stryngs | I love my n900 | 22:00 |
| * stryngs cuddles it | 22:00 | |
| reinob | my precious.. | 22:00 |
| stryngs | rcS-late is the trick | 22:01 |
| stryngs | modify that and it's pretty much an fstab | 22:01 |
| rZr | reinob, ask me if you want to edit wiki too | 22:01 |
| reinob | rZr: OK. But not today. Hopefully tomorrow or during the weekend | 22:01 |
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| rZr | reinob, sure there is no hurry | 22:02 |
| reinob | stryngs: rcS-late and all others would be nice to hack around and clean-up | 22:02 |
| reinob | but now I have to leave | 22:02 |
| reinob | cheers | 22:02 |
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| merlin1991 | kerio: I'll have a look at the mirror | 22:07 |
| merlin1991 | but it should sync daily | 22:07 |
| kerio | merlin1991: well it doesn't help with packages that were added today :> | 22:08 |
| merlin1991 | ah | 22:08 |
| merlin1991 | :D | 22:08 |
| kerio | sync it every 30 seconds at most | 22:08 |
| kerio | (don't) | 22:08 |
| rZr | merlin1991, would you mind if I nomiate you for MC ? | 22:09 |
| rZr | nominate | 22:09 |
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| merlin1991 | last time around I ended up not having the time, I don't think it's such a good idea | 22:10 |
| rZr | ok | 22:10 |
| rZr | no problem | 22:10 |
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| stryngs | Can someone please confirm on their n900 that /sbin/vol_id is a symlink to: /lib/udev/vol_id | 22:39 |
| stryngs | and for /lib/udev/vol_id, that it does NOT exist? | 22:40 |
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| wizbit | i am running CSSU stable, with the power kernel, if i change myDocs to ext3, do i need to edit mmc-mount? | 22:44 |
| stryngs | wizbit: can u check this for me? | 22:44 |
| wizbit | sure | 22:44 |
| stryngs | i appreciate it much | 22:44 |
| stryngs | i show it as a dead symlink | 22:44 |
| wizbit | hold on | 22:44 |
| stryngs | and if u change MyDocs you screw up the camera, fyi | 22:44 |
| Morpog_PC__ | rZr, I am honoured that I got nominated, but I need to decline, as I got too less time for such a important job. I don't even have enough time to contribute to nemomobile and glacier as much as I would like to :( | 22:44 |
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| wizbit | ls: /sbin/vol_id: No such file or directory | 22:45 |
| * stryngs cheers | 22:45 | |
| stryngs | how about /lib/udev/vol_id | 22:45 |
| stryngs | does that exist | 22:45 |
| wizbit | ls: /lib/udev/vol_id: No such file or directory | 22:45 |
| wizbit | Nokia-N900:~# | 22:45 |
| stryngs | wtf do i have the dead symlink | 22:45 |
| stryngs | anyone know how to find all dead symlinks? | 22:45 |
| wizbit | im sure there is a way using find, try google | 22:46 |
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| merlin1991 | stryngs: you could check which package it came from with 'dpkg-query -S /sbin/vol_id' | 22:51 |
| rZr | Morpog_PC__, ok I update this on wiki | 22:51 |
| rZr | Morpog_PC__, feel free to change | 22:52 |
| stryngs | merlin1991: ^^ | 22:53 |
| stryngs | heh, udev | 22:53 |
| stryngs | merlin1991: I should have thought about that | 22:53 |
| stryngs | Reason i asked is because I'm going to "fix" pymaemo | 22:54 |
| stryngs | and "un*#*#" the optification nonsense | 22:54 |
| stryngs | So, the question is why i have a broken symlink for an essential .deb | 22:55 |
| stryngs | 0.125-7+142.maemo1+0m5 | 22:55 |
| stryngs | anyone else have udev? | 22:55 |
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| wizbit | anybody know how to get ovi maps downloaded? | 23:25 |
| rZr | there is a thread about that on tmo | 23:26 |
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| wizbit | tmo? | 23:27 |
| freemangordon | ~tmo | 23:29 |
| infobot | [tmo] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TMO, or http://talk.maemo.org, or http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrestrial_Trunked_Radio#TMO. It's *not* T-MO (see ~T-MO) or trolls, morons, oxen. | 23:29 |
| wizbit | i think they are free | 23:30 |
| wizbit | http://nokia-ovi-maps.en.softonic.com/symbian/download | 23:30 |
| rZr | wizbit, http://wiki.maemo.org/Nokia | 23:30 |
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| wizbit | does the latest version of ovi maps work with maemo? | 23:50 |
| rZr | chainsawbike, are you aware of http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_Q4_2014#Nominated ? | 23:53 |
| rZr | chem|st, are you too ? | 23:53 |
| Pali | ~kernel-power | 23:55 |
| Pali | ~kp | 23:55 |
| infobot | [kp] http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=89823 | 23:55 |
| Pali | ~literal kp | 23:56 |
| infobot | "#maemo kp" is "http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=89823" | 23:56 |
| Pali | infobot, no #maemo kp is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94287 | 23:56 |
| infobot | okay, Pali | 23:56 |
| Pali | ~kp | 23:56 |
| infobot | hmm... kp is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94287 | 23:56 |
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