IRC log of #maemo for Saturday, 2013-10-19

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zammymy n900 after the last upgrade is not bootable... neither with backup menu...00:25
zammyhow to make a last backup before of reinstalling its OS00:25
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sonoi changed the system locale to .UTF-8 and sourced it00:50
sonowill it still come up on reboot?00:50
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zammyI hope to get an answer...00:54
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NIN101zammy: try rescueOS00:59
NIN101there is no convenient interface for backups or so, you must cp etc.01:00
zammymaybe...but actually how...01:01
zammyI mean did you do it before?01:02
zammyI downloaded the img01:02
zammyshall I plug some usb with adapter?01:02
zammyI don't think I can have right now some microsd... maybe with that yes01:03
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zammyI would do everything01:03
infobotmethinks flasher is, or
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NIN101it's documented... best chance is probaly to enable mass-storage mode and copy the data to your PC.01:05
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zammyexactly NIN101 all I want is just to copy all inside my pc... so i would by wifi01:09
zammybut... so with only flasher and no need of this img01:10
NIN101flasher can not copy your data to your PC.01:13
zammy... so NIN101 I can use flasher like I would reinstall the OS I want01:16
zammyand... I install the img you gave me01:16
zammyso... it does not overwrite anything... right?01:16
zammybut allows me to recover and connect the n900 to pc and copy some data?01:17
DocScrutinizer05bsically yes01:17
DocScrutinizer05rescueOS is loaded to RAM, so no data gets erased01:17
zammytomorrow I am going to do that01:22
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Psianyone had the n900 not send a sms sometimes until you go back into the messages app03:25
Psilike you send it, then move the slider to sleep the phone but it doesnt send until sometime in the future when you wake it up and go back into the messages app03:26
Psimight be time for a reinstall03:30
Psiits been like 4 years03:30
DocScrutinizer05maybe cleaning out your eventsdb is already suffucuent?03:44
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DocScrutinizer05I wonder how the heck the https sneaked in03:49
DocScrutinizer05really weird03:50
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DocScrutinizer05TMO based karma fixed!08:13
DocScrutinizer05so: karma at large fixed (more or less)08:14
DocScrutinizer05sending tokens for council election based on karma should be no problem08:14
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zemmygood morning...10:26
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brolin_empeyOne of the neat aspects about using a Nokia N900, at least in Canada, is that it is a rare model of computer in general contexts:  the only other Nokia N900 users I have met IRL have been at the Vancouver Hack(er)Space (the VHS) or at “LinuxCon” North America 2011 in Vancouver, British Columbia.10:43
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brolin_empeyDocScrutinizer05: Is it possible for the Neo900 to use a removable non-volatile secondary storage device instead of eMMC?  I dislike relying on secondary storage fixed on a mainboard because it is too risky;  I have been fscked too many times by losing access to the contents of secondary storage fixed (soldered) on a failed or otherwise unusable mainboard.10:56
infobotflasher is probably, or
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DocScrutinizer05brolin_empey: umm, I don't really get it. You want two SD-cards?10:58
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zemmyis there some flasher to have in arch linux DocScrutinizer0510:58
zemmyyes... I mean can you link me the flasher to use on arch linux pc10:59
DocScrutinizer05err, the .deb should prolly work, no?10:59
kolpzemmy: There is a tar.gz that you can use for sure11:00
DocScrutinizer05aah, or tarball yes11:00
zemmyversion ? maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz11:00
DocScrutinizer05or you use 0xffff if you don't like blobs11:00
zemmybut I am on this site
zemmyit says tablets... I am using n90011:01
zemmyis it alright?11:01
kolpIt is11:01
kolpDo you ever sleep?11:01
kolpThought so11:01
zemmylet's start to compile it11:02
kolpThere's a configure, then just make, make install11:02
kolpSorry, j/k11:02
kolpIt's a binary. Nothing to compile, zemmy11:02
brolin_empeyDocScrutinizer05: I want the system to run from a removable storage device which can be moved to and used in another of the same model of computer, like with an ATA hard disc drive or solid-state drive in an IBM Personal Computer(/Advanced Technology) compatible.11:03
kolpbrolin_empey: You can boot from SD just fine11:03
DocScrutinizer05brolin_empey: if you really want to use a slow uSD, you're free to boot from that media as well11:04
DocScrutinizer05or you cram in a 2" HDD with USB interface ;-)11:05
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DocScrutinizer05PCI-card, iirc they have USB too11:07
DocScrutinizer05on internal bus11:07
zemmykolp anyway I don't get it started...11:07
brolin_empeykolp: DocScrutinizer05:  If I boot from an SD card, do I still have any dependency on the (contents of the) eMMC?11:07
DocScrutinizer05err, bootloader11:07
DocScrutinizer05I.E. uBoot11:08
DocScrutinizer05oops, that's NAND11:08
DocScrutinizer05no, we already done a complete swap between eMMC and uSD for a guy who had broken eMMC11:09
DocScrutinizer05was a funny enterprise, 3 guys worked one day to make it happen11:09
DocScrutinizer05finally it was 3 chars patch11:09
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zemmykolp, [sammy@sammy maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2]$ sh flasher-3.511:10
zemmyflasher-3.5: flasher-3.5: cannot execute binary file11:10
kolpzemmy: tar xf maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz; cd maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2; ./flasher-3.511:10
kolpzemmy: It's not a script11:10
zemmyI did with ./ but11:11
kolpNo sh11:11
zemmy[sammy@sammy maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2]$ ./flasher-3.511:11
zemmy./flasher-3.5: error while loading shared libraries: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory11:11
zemmythen I tried with sh11:12
kolpUse Pali's 0xFFFF11:12
DocScrutinizer05meh, will also need libusb11:12
zemmyI read something on such man or doc11:12
kolpBut not a specific version11:12
zemmylet's try to insta ll it11:12
DocScrutinizer05there's a command you need to run, which I *always* forget the name of11:13
zemmyto me it says libusb is installed yet11:13
DocScrutinizer05or you use LD_LIBRARYPATH11:14
DocScrutinizer05maybe kolp can help out11:14
kolpDocScrutinizer05: command to do what?11:14
DocScrutinizer05and symlinks11:14
brolin_empey<sarcasm>Wow:  my Friday night was, as usual, super exciting.</sarcasm>11:15
zemmysymlink not yet installed but what is it for?11:17
kolpldconfig -p | grep usb11:18
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Macerany plex client for maemo?11:18
zemmyto me kolp?11:18
kolpzemmy: yes11:19
zemmyshall I plug the n90011:19
kolpHm, Looks fine. Shoudln't it Just Work?11:22
kolpWhat does ldd flasher-3.5 say?11:24
kolpAh, maybe11:25
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kolpNo clue how that is handled11:25
kolpUse 0xFFFF :)11:25
DocScrutinizer05 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/lib64/
DocScrutinizer05 (libc6) => /usr/lib/
DocScrutinizer05wasn't there a damn statically linked flasher once?11:27
infobotmaemo-flashing is probably
DocScrutinizer05search for libusb11:28
zemmysorry I waas away I had to ... grab kilos of water11:28
DocScrutinizer05Some notes:11:29
DocScrutinizer05If you get this error while trying to run flasher-3.511:29
DocScrutinizer05./flasher-3.5: error while loading shared libraries: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory11:29
DocScrutinizer05you are probably on 64 bit and you need to install a libusb compatibility package. For example, on openSUSE 11.4 you just run11:29
DocScrutinizer05zypper in libusb-0_1-4-32bit11:29
DocScrutinizer05FSCK pastie11:31
DocScrutinizer05cookie infested shite11:31
DocScrutinizer05and javascript, wants even set cookies when you close window11:31
DocScrutinizer05sooooo install libusb-0_1-4-32bit11:32
DocScrutinizer05and read
zemmyahahaha upon 64 bit systemm11:32
zemmyis it possible?11:33
DocScrutinizer05and read !!!!!!!!!11:33
zemmywth is boring11:34
zemmywhat is just supposed to do11:34
DocScrutinizer05I gave you the link two times, I even spammed the channel with a 6 lines fullquote11:34
DocScrutinizer053 times11:35
zemmybut the link shows up a huge page Is boooring11:35
DocScrutinizer05what of >> you are probably on 64 bit and you need to install a libusb compatibility package. << is so complex?11:35
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zemmynope... alright11:35
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zemmybut I need to compile that11:36
DocScrutinizer05sorry, you won't get private lessons for free here11:36
zemmyok I pass to my notebook which is 32 bit11:36
zammyhey all11:38
zammyinstalled the deb flasher -.-11:40
zammythis is boring as well11:40
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zammyso to install the rescueOS.img I just have to execute sudo -F flasher-3.5 -f or what?11:42
zammy... maybe is better to wait for N1N11:44
DocScrutinizer05no, you don't *flash* the rescueOS11:46
DocScrutinizer05see the readme file that comes with rescueOS11:46
zammyNIN101, you are here11:46
DocScrutinizer05no -f11:46
zammyoh ok11:46
zammyso you want me to do it correctly11:46
DocScrutinizer05and no sudo -F11:47
DocScrutinizer05that's completely garbled11:47
zammyyou are not so mean11:47
DocScrutinizer05(sudo) flasher-3.5 -F <file> -l or whatever11:47
zammy... if you were you could say yess do it11:47
DocScrutinizer05nah, we suggest lusers to clean their device in the automatic dish washer11:49
DocScrutinizer05or run nandtest11:49
zammyyou see now I know when you are joking11:49
DocScrutinizer05nandtest conveniently deletes ALL data and config from your device11:50
infobotsomebody said cal was
DocScrutinizer05turns N900 in a nice living brick11:52
zammysorry anyway DocScrutinizer05 but I need a repetition... so... I must do sudo flasher-3.5 -F rescueOS-1.1.img -l11:52
DocScrutinizer05I'm not 100% sure about the -l11:53
zammyNIN101, ?11:53
DocScrutinizer05might be another char that means "-Load to ram"11:53
DocScrutinizer05do a flasher-3.5 --help11:53
DocScrutinizer05or *read the readme* in rescueOS tarball11:54
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zammyflasher-3.5 -k 2.6.37 -n initrd.img -l -b"rootdelay root=/dev/ram0" from
zammywhat the heck11:56
zammyall that means11:56
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DocScrutinizer05-k is the kernel image file, -n is probably a initrd image file, -l means "load to RAM", -b is the kernel commandline iirc11:57
DocScrutinizer05from "root=/dev/ram0" you can tell it searches for rootfs in RAM and not on any storage device11:59
zammyweird... I don't want create a bootable microsd in order to boot this rescueOS after inside the n90011:59
zammythat's the guide for11:59
zammywwaaaa too bored to read all but I did11:59
zammy therefore we do not want to describe how to install it on the N900. OMG12:00
kolpSorry zammy, but 'too bored' is really not the right attitude to ask for free help12:00
zammyso DocScrutinizer05 it's right that is the command I must execute12:02
zammythis guide is more useful I think12:02
zammyI just must do this -Backuping files prior to a reflash.12:04
zammyI START12:04
NIN101now I am here.12:05
zammyright in time12:05
zammyI was pressing execute12:06
zammyI have installed flasher mate and downloaded the rescueOS-1.1.img12:06
zammynow? the command I must execute is flasher-3.5 -k 2.6.37 -n initrd.img -l -b"rootdelay root=/dev/ram0" right?12:06
zammywith sudo or without?ù12:06
NIN101 this is the official documentation, other mirrors and wiki articles are probably outdated12:07
zammyyes NIN101 that's the coolest guide upon it12:07
zammyso I just execute12:08
zammybut I need to substitute initrd.img with rescueOS-1.1.img right?12:08
zammyit outputs no such file or directory12:09
NIN101then you haven't downloaded the kernel.12:09
zammynow I understand all the command line12:10
NIN101I admit it could have been better named than "2.6.37"12:10
zammyyes it's started12:11
zammyn900 started to behave weird12:11
zammyit askes in small character something12:11
NIN101usually it's quite readable...12:12
zammyNIN101, anyway let me tell you it's quite cool since I could not boot any thing here12:12
NIN101it asks you 3 questions.12:12
zammyany THING12:13
zammyso I y or n12:13
zammyanonymous download and up12:13
NIN101depends on whether you think you will need it.12:13
zammyyes I must save datas from n900 to pc12:13
zammyso I 'd say yes12:13
DocScrutinizer05I'd say no12:14
DocScrutinizer05when you already don't know12:14
NIN101though if you use mass-storage mode you won't need it.12:14
zammyoh... now I remember why I would do it by my desktop pc and not by notebook... because here I have no free storage12:14
zammyI must to ssh further from notebook to desktop12:14
zammythat's I know how to12:14
zammyalright so I say no12:15
zammydon't be ambiguous NIN12:15
NIN101pretty much doesn't matter. I would say yes to FTP, yes to telnetd, and no to usb networking if you want to use mass-storage mode12:16
zammythat's cool sentence NIN12:16
zammyfinally... yeah I am in shell12:17
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zammy /rescueOS/ this right? NIN10112:18
zammyI would have tab now... hehe12:18
NIN101usually shift + space.12:18
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zammyreally? that's a clue for me12:19
zammycool my god the notebook has just mounted that folder12:19
zammyalright now I open ssh folder too and I save all12:20
zammythank you very much NIN10112:20
zammynot you DocScrutinizer05 you were almost mean with me12:20
DocScrutinizer05~nuke zammy12:22
* infobot prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at zammy ... B☢☢M!12:22
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zammyand if NIN101  I mean... is also charging the battery?12:41
zammybecause it needs a while... I 'd say 2 hours and 50 minutes12:41
NIN101read the documentation12:43
NIN101basically it's not unless you ask it to.12:44
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ApicA wonderful good Morning (UGT).12:51
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zammyNIN101, the script for battery has to be improved... it says in loop something... like Status: 0x20 Mode: StandBY FULL: 1 Wall: 0 voltage: 386x NAC: 1091xx level: 80 % rate - 307 System: -112:57
zammyand so on...12:57
zammyit updates but I would this not looping overall the screen like panic errors12:58
NIN101you can redirect the output to a file if it annoys you.13:00
DocScrutinizer05to dev/null13:00
NIN101or there, yeah.13:00
zammyI don't need the shell now... but If I must use again the shell I must stop all this NIN101 this is what I want to say and not that's annoying me13:01
DocScrutinizer05i wouldn't know how this can annoy you, when you're anyway using MSM and not using console13:01
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zammywth NIN101 the level goes down... does not increase the battery this script?13:21
DocScrutinizer05when there's not power then it doesn't charge13:22
DocScrutinizer05when it's full and in standby mode then it doesn't charge13:23
NIN101zammy: This script was not written by me. I in general don't know much about the inner workings of it...13:25
zammyI can even use nano and edit the script...13:27
zammybut I don't understand it neither13:27
zammyhow to write | inside the terminal without that cool feature...13:30
zammyby only combo of keys13:30
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NIN101it depends on your keyboard.13:31
NIN101this is the part that sucks most about rescueOS, not localized keymaps.13:32
NIN101but it's quite some boring work nobody wants to do.13:32
zammyso... I passed over I need ssh server enabled into n900 by command line13:34
zammyso with ssh I overtake my n900 and I can handle the charging stuff too13:34
NIN101this can be done using usb-networking and telnetd which you activated on boot. no ssh in rescueOS. However, usb-networking can't be active while usb mass-storde mode is.13:35
zammyoh right telnet13:35
zammythat's is enabled for sure and I wanna use it13:35
zammyso... telnet and?13:36
zammyit's not by wifi...13:37
zammyoh gosh I am dumb13:38
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zammyI give up... at least after this 1:50 hour I hope my battery can resist until the end13:39
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mashinai loved my N800 but hated the camera/stylus hump13:41
mashinai could kill a man with that thing13:42
mashinajust whack them on the head with an N800, fiddle around with it, watch them collapsed13:43
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ShadowJKairy plastic shells with lots of give are good for impact resistance13:54
mashinam6be i'd evfen take a picture with it's shitty camera13:56
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ShadowJKi dont think ive ever used the camera13:58
mashiname neither13:59
mashinait kept the tradition for front facing cameras on everything to be shit13:59
mashinathe only device i've owned with a half decent one was a nexus 4 and it was for someone else14:00
mashinaalso the wifi range on the N800 was great14:02
mashinafull bars everywhere inside, can pick up wifi where my N900 can't or struggles14:02
zammywow wonderful features the n80014:02
zammya killer would buy it14:03
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ShadowJKI find my N900 has better wifi range than N800 or N81014:20
zammyI need to test the hit feature of my brick n90014:21
zammyI test on my dad's head14:21
zammyomg... n900 kills as well as14:21
DocScrutinizer05don't miss to install FlyN900 first14:21
zammyoh right let's test it again on my mum14:22
zammyuhmm gps now?14:22
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zammymummy is dead14:24
zammyomg this n900 is a killer14:24
zammynow remains to call 91114:24
DocScrutinizer05I start to get bored by posts on Neo900 thread14:24
zammyoh fuck so difficult to explain to n900 to call it14:24
zammyit wants kill my self omg14:25
DocScrutinizer05what are you smoking?14:25
zammythe n900 supply battery14:25
mashinai don't have 1000$ to spend a motherboard sadly14:25
mashinathis guy is high as fuck14:25
zammyn900 kills all mothers even motherboard14:26
* Wizzup casts /ignore14:26
mashinacan i have what he's smoking?14:26
DocScrutinizer05stay clear of that stuff, it#s bad14:26
zammythe BL-5J battery14:26
zammyburn it14:27
zammyand smell14:27
mashinahe's high on lithium, watch out14:27
DocScrutinizer05hmm HF, tasty14:27
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zammymashina seems to me mescalina14:28
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zammyDocScrutinizer05, I am copying also opt and user folders14:30
zammyfurther to mydocs14:31
mashinathis guy will run with / as fat3214:31
zammywho is fat14:31
zammyI am not fat14:31
zammyI am tight high14:31
zammyXD I love mescalima14:32
zammyanyway DocScrutinizer05 there is no etc folder14:32
zammyall I saw is just opt and user and mydocs14:32
DocScrutinizer05forget about opt14:32
zammyI forget too many things lastely... maybe I must stop with LSA14:33
zammyand LSD14:33
zammyand mescalina14:33
DocScrutinizer05start with stopping noise14:33
mashinadont do drugs14:34
zammyI produce it but taste is my duty14:34 supports Mothers Against Drunk IRC.14:34
DocScrutinizer05talk.m.o supports karma now again14:36
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DocScrutinizer05so odds are some of you guys will receive a voting token this time, even when you didn't get one last time14:37
sonogood morning - Sent from my N90014:37
sonohow is everyone? - Sent from my N90014:37
mashinai shpuld do that to assert dominance over android users14:38
sonoif i want to change the mtdparts i can do so through flasher3-5 command line options ans it will set them up for me?14:39
zammymashina n900 can kills all androids14:39
zammyhumanoids and aliens14:39
entitledhey sono - Sent from my N900 using Irssi14:41
zammysono I don't eat flesh anymore... I don't attend mtdparts14:41
zammyI can't give advices to you if you did not get it14:42
zammyjust in case I told you14:42
sonoso? - Sent from my N900 using mosh, tmux and irssi.14:43
mashinai use ssh tmux and irssi14:43
mashinanot cool yet14:43
sonoso mature14:44
ApicI use ssh, GNU Screen and irssi14:44
mashinascreen? you disgust me14:44
ApicMr. Schrödinger rules.14:45
ApicOr Schröder?14:45
mashinawhy dont yiu use tmux14:45
infobotif coreutils doesn't show any more colors for +x files, update coreutils from deb ./14:45
ApicIt does not have the same Default Input Layouts and I am too lazy to configure it.14:46
sonoah, gnu-14:46
mashinaisnt busybox good enough14:47
zammywho saw The Trip on youtube14:48
DocScrutinizer05sono: mtdparts are hardcoded into flasher, NOLO dunnowhatelse14:51
DocScrutinizer05that's the reason why they didn't nuke initrd mtdpart14:51
DocScrutinizer05even on N900 where it#s orphaned and abandoned14:52
DocScrutinizer05a pity since it#s too small for even ubifs14:52
zammypoor orphaned n90014:52
zammypoor too small14:52
DocScrutinizer05oh please stop it14:53
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sonothanks for the caution, doc14:53
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DocScrutinizer05sono: you know `cat /proc/mtd`14:57
sonoyea, i was missing them from cmdline so they must be compiled in14:57
sonoand i read about someone who evidently customized it, as i want to as well14:58
sonoit can wait14:58
sonothis phone is so sexy14:59
zammydon't use in that way you are thinking at14:59
DocScrutinizer05customized what?14:59
sonomtdparts layout14:59
DocScrutinizer05you need to patch kernel at least, and this will still cause havoc when flashing15:00
sonowhy not? it is no dark magic. bigger root, less home15:00
DocScrutinizer05unless you patch NOLO and flasher as well15:00
* sono loves patching kernels.15:01
DocScrutinizer05you're aware that home is on a different chip?15:01
zammychips not only partitions?15:02
DocScrutinizer05are you sure you don't mix this with eMMC repartitioning?15:02
* sono frantically types mount15:02
DocScrutinizer05NAND MTD is 256MB total15:02
sonoi see15:03
sonoyea, i am doing mny things at once...15:03
DocScrutinizer05for eMMC repartitioning see15:04
infobotjrtools is, like,
DocScrutinizer05most easy way to get eMMC repartitioned15:05
DocScrutinizer05also see15:05
zammyso I am right... not different devices... but partitions15:05
infobotoptification is a inventive duct tape workaround to reclaim space in fs root, done due to the fact the systeminit *and* partitioning is FUBAR,,_Deploying_and_Distributing/Installing_under_opt_and_MyDocs, or ""OMG - I wish they looked into FHS and moved /usr to eMMC"", bullet1,2 and fhs-2.3.html#PURPOSE16 dot3"15:05
DocScrutinizer05...and how /opt is a bindmount to /home/opt15:06
zammybut if I want install the archlinux version of n900 firmware15:06
zammyI don't need to backup opt15:07
DocScrutinizer05also check             maemo-optify-make-mountbind.sh15:07
DocScrutinizer05sono: see also about meego: installing to uSd / installing to eMMC15:08
DocScrutinizer05kolp: what been our problem with Itt karma now?15:11
DocScrutinizer05I admit I can't spot when we fixed it15:11
DocScrutinizer05and how15:11
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sonowell i will remember to search for this in the logs; not flashing at this point15:12
sonothe binds, yes...15:13
DocScrutinizer05hah, Dave Neary reclaimed his karma 7 minutes ago15:13
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zammyfinally finished to backup15:52
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zammyDocScrutinizer05, what is the latest firmware to flash on?16:07
infobotrumour has it, firmware is hardware that is beginning to melt  Firmware for GrandStream phones is at
infobothmm... combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see  or
zammypr sounds like a fart did someone say that?16:08
zammynevermind... anyway which is the difference of both bins?16:09
infobotmaemo-flashing is, like,
zammyI know this... thankful for repeating...16:10
DocScrutinizer05ooh, those two. none16:10
zammyno difference between RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin and RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin16:11
zammyoh right16:11
zammythere is no... but wth two links16:11
zammyalright the fastest won16:11
zammyand DocScrutinizer05 what about new OS for next n900?16:12
zammywhat such neo90016:13
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dos1zammy: eveyone will be free to create/port any OS to neo90016:13
dos1it will be open platform, just like pc16:14
dos1(or like openmoko devices, or like gta04 is right now)16:14
DocScrutinizer05hi dos116:14
zammydo you mean automatic upgrade?16:14
dos1DocScrutinizer05: hello16:14
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zammysmooth upgrade it says well so what's the problem... if I want to install right now neo90016:16
dos1zammy: sorry, I don't really understand you16:17
* DocScrutinizer05 gives up16:17
zammydos1, I read on it says smooth upgrade for n90016:18
dos1zammy: hardware upgrade16:19
zammyand there is a talk.maemo post very interesting... and it's enough I don't read all the posts16:19
zammyyes... and also about the LTE upgrade right now I was reading16:19
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zammybut... what about the bin for flashing the neo900 right now that I need to flash16:19
dos1zammy: there's no neo900 produced yet16:20
dos1so obviously there are no images available for neo900 yet16:20
Humpelstilzchenwhat about graphic support on n900? Will we be able to get a powervr version?16:21
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zammythe talk.maemo speask also about 700euro for the complete product16:24
zammybut if I wanna just upgrade does not tell about that16:24
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zammyif my battery is at 30% of level can I flash n900 DocScrutinizer05 ?16:31
kerioit'll probably allow you to do so16:36
keriobut no16:36
keriodon't do that16:36
keriocharge the battery16:36
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zammycan istop topress u?16:39
zammyalright I had to change battery16:39
zammyDocScrutinizer05, it finished the sudo flasher-3.5 -F RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f16:41
zammyand now?16:42
zammyit kept one minute and I don't see the reason why it needed the full battery16:42
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dos1zammy: for just a motherboard it's going to be somewhere around 100-150 EUR cheaper16:50
zammyso 600euro?16:50
dos1we'll see, those are just estimations for now16:50
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zammyrebooted device all fine mates16:56
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DrCodehi all18:23
DrCodeI am looking for app in maemo that can send sms when I missed call , like I will call later or I am in a meeting?18:23
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infobot[~skype] Skype is a free VoIP software and service using a closed client and propritary protocol. Only commercial channel drivers exist, with most solutions being complex, complicated, and hack-ish . Digium's SkypeForAsterisk (see ~SkypeForAsterisk) is a new solution that is a cleaner non-dependent option.18:41
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kolpDocScrutinizer05: (how we fixed karma) I'm not entirely sure myself either, but it might have just been the casts?!?18:43
jon_ynot sure if on purpose :)18:46
infobotsono has neutral karma18:51
sonoi remember seeing that feature years ago in some other #...18:51
kolpsono: If you have an accoun ton (not tmo) you can accumulate karma. And use that for passive or active voting on the community council18:53
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kolps/not/in addition to/18:53
infobotkolp meant: sono: If you have an accoun ton (in addition to tmo) you can accumulate karma. And use that for passive or active voting on the community council18:53
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infobotsono meant: s/thanks/thanks19:12
sonoa common mistake.19:12
sonothe keys are ok.19:12
sonobut how do you press ctrl-a without going insane19:13
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infobotsomebody said mumble was an open source, low-latency, high quality voice chat software primarily intended for use while gaming, found at
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sonomumble is in extras-devel and unstable20:29
sonoinfobot: forget mumble20:29
infobotsono: i forgot mumble20:29
sonoinfobot: mumble is in extras-devel and unstable20:29
infobotsono: okay20:29
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sonono luck with input. crash when opening settings dialog. error log spam.20:30
BCMMwhy can't i see the uSD card over MSC?20:33
sonoinfobot: alsamixer is alsamixer -c 020:33
BCMM(on a desktop linux machine)20:33
infobotsono: I think you lost me on that one20:33
sonois that supposed to be an  error message?20:33
sonoBCMM: dmesg?20:34
SiceloBCMM: msc being?20:34
sonoinfobot: forget alsamixer20:34
infoboti didn't have anything called 'alsamixer' to forget, sono20:34
Siceloand sono .. what's happening?20:34
sonoinfobot: alsamixer is "alsamixer -c 0"20:34
infobotokay, sono20:34
sonoinfobot: thanks20:34
infobotpas de quoi, sono20:34
BCMMSicelo: sorry, i mean USB MSC20:35
BCMMi mean, mass storage mode20:35
sonoBCMM: dmesg?20:35
Sicelolikely BCMM you have something using it in maemo20:35
Sicelotry lsof.. even though it is not perfect in maemo20:35
BCMMSicelo: nah, it became inaccessible in maemo20:36
BCMMor at least, file manager said it was20:36
Siceloah, lol.. so no way it will be accesible via storage mode..20:36
BCMMi guess i didn't actually check20:36
Siceloso make sure of that.. then do an fdisk on the appropriate sdX drive on computer once you plug you N90020:38
BCMMSicelo: i only got one sdX on the desktop20:38
BCMM(and that was mydocs)20:38
Sicelomydocs is not uSD20:39
BCMMi know; they are supposed to come up as two devices on the host machine, right?20:39
BCMMlike, sdc and sdd?20:39
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Sicelojust one.. but with two fs20:40
Sicelosdc1 , sdc220:40
Sicelosomething like that.. let me confirm though20:40
Sicelolol, ok. you are right20:41
Siceloshould have two devices20:41
BCMMand i checked, maemo has unmounted it20:42
BCMMit might be a problem with my desktop tbh20:42
BCMMremovable media is slightly odd20:42
BCMMfor some reason, KDE doesn't pop up a notice about something being plugged in until a read at least a byte from it20:42
BCMMe.g. i do `file -s /dev/sdc`20:42
BCMMbut now i'm offtopic20:43
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Sicelobut if fdisk doesn't show it.. i doubt i could blame KDE20:43
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SiceloBCMM: you're absolutely sure `fdisk -l` doesn't show the uSD?20:47
BCMMwill try again in a minute20:47
BCMMdidn't try fdisk -l20:47
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BCMMMyDocs is readonly, and i can't tell why22:12
BCMMi have fsck'ed it from another computer in mass storage mode, and it's fine22:12
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BCMMit seems to have started after i manually unmounted the microSD card (not MyDocs)22:13
BCMMhow can i get a read-only MyDocs back?22:13
infobothmm... rescueos is
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zamn900hello guys22:39
zamn900i am using a faster ans brand new n90022:40
zamn900thank you too doc22:40
zamn900idk how to make tab here chatting in xchat22:41
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zamn900too dark xhat22:47
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ecc3gneed to somehow make xchat just display everything in black and white, the purple and dark green has to go...22:56
BCMMsono: how does rescueOS help in this situation?22:57
BCMMi mean, what should i do with rescueOS?22:57
BCMMthe FAT seems to be fine, it just keeps mounting ro22:57
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zamn900DocScrutinizer05, hello22:58
zamn900BCMM, if you have boot menu installed22:59
BCMMzamn900: i do22:59
zamn900you can even use that22:59
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BCMMzamn900: i'm rebooting, but i'm not sure what i need to do with boot menu23:00
zamn900to open your folders into your pc by usb23:00
BCMMi already fscked MyDocs over USB23:00
zamn900so for what you are asking for rescueos?23:00
BCMMzamn900: sono told me to use it, i asked him why23:01
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zamn900so I am23:01
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BCMM... i don't understand23:01
zamn900I don't too23:02
BCMMmy problem, as far as i'm concerned, is that mydocs is mounted read-only23:02
zamn900oh that's simply an option change which fixes that23:03
BCMMit may have started after i accidentally removed the battery while it was running23:03
zamn900the option is inside fstab23:03
BCMMbut i saw a message telling me it was RO right after i manually unmounted the SD card23:03
zamn900yes that happens23:03
BCMMzamn900: it also gets mounted read-only if it's corrupted23:03
BCMMmaybe i'm using fsck wrong23:04
zamn900hold on23:04
zamn900you checked around the fstab stuff23:04
BCMMzamn900: it's an n90023:05
BCMMthe fstab is created at boot or something23:05
BCMManyway, in backupmenu, fstab is blank23:05
zamn900but n900 has fstab too23:05
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BCMMthe fstab is created automatically; modifications to it are not preserved23:06
BCMMand right now i'm in backupmenu's console, so fstab is blank23:06
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zamn900well let's compare our fstab23:07
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zamn900I ve just installed my n900 from zero today23:07
zammyBCMM, this is my option related to MyDocs as brand new installed maemo on n900 noauto,nodev,noexec,nosuid,noatime,nodiratime,utf8,uid=29999,shortname=mixed,dmask=000,fmask=0133,rodir inside the fstab23:08
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BCMMso something actually is wrong with the partition, and it didn't show up the first time...23:16
BCMMi seem to have lost a lot of files23:16
BCMMargh, read errors over usb23:17
zamn900BCMM, did you find differences comparing the line I posted you with yours?23:18
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