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Palijonwil: are you able to RE 20k arm binary?09:10
Palior it is too big?09:11
Pali(it is shared library so all function names are there)09:12
Paliwrite me then, going offline09:12
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ShadowJKhm, the standards have improved since I last traveled by train09:30
ShadowJKfree wifi onboard :-)09:30
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SAiFwhich country? and what bandwidth? just curious09:39
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ShadowJKfinland09:52
ShadowJKdunno about bandwidth, but latency seems pretty random and bad09:53
ShadowJKthough possibly not as bad as 3g when traveling at high speed through woods in the middle of nowhere09:53
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fizzieThe Finnish VR wifi is kind of bad. (They've also blocked a number of uses-a-lot-of-bandwidth services -- Youtube, Netflix, Spotify, Steam, Windows Update, etc. -- in an attempt to improve it. (Hasn't seemed to help much.))09:55
ShadowJKHeh09:56
ShadowJKYeah my vpn to irc didn't work, but ssh was open so I could log in to my vpn server and reconfigure it for udp port 11009:57
ShadowJKThey let pop3 through but sloppily enabled both udp and tcp :)09:57
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ShadowJKugh, this is bad indeed.. but atleast my N900 will eat much less powerr :-)09:59
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ShadowJKSitting still at station: 3% packet loss, round-trip min/avg/max = 89.447/454.852/1733.338 ms10:02
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DocScrutinizer05:-S10:06
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* DocScrutinizer05 hates it when bouncer gets disconnected10:07
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DocScrutinizer05ShadowJK: railway-GSM10:08
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DocScrutinizer05they got their own band10:08
DocScrutinizer05and a network of BTS that meets their needs10:09
DocScrutinizer05railway and phone always funny10:10
DocScrutinizer05they always had their own "landline" too10:10
ShadowJKmoving high speed through the woods:25% packetloss, round-trip min/avg/max = 148.986/1135.704/6336.609 ms10:10
DocScrutinizer05:nod:10:11
fizzieIt's supposed to automatically switch the uplink to use wifi when at stations, at least if it thinks that works better than regular mobile networks or the "@450" network it uses elsewhere.10:11
DocScrutinizer05right, 450 it been10:12
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ShadowJKThe @450 is available for consumers too10:18
DocScrutinizer05oh? where?10:18
ShadowJKit's kinda obsolete-ish unless you're out of range of 3g/adsl though10:20
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DocScrutinizer05aah, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_frequency_bands#GSM-45010:22
ShadowJKit's not gsm, it's flash-ofdm, iirc10:24
fizzieRight.10:24
fizziehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash-OFDM#FLASH-OFDM "In Finland, the license holder Digita began deployment of a nationwide "@450" wireless network in parts of the country since April 2007. It was purchased by Datame in 2011.[27] In February 2012 Datame announced they would upgrade the 450 MHz network to competing CDMA2000 technology.[28]"10:24
fizzieDidn't know it had been sold, though.10:25
ShadowJKor maybe they changed the modulation, I have a vague memory that they were going to do that10:25
fizzieThey claim a coverage of "99.9% of the population", which I guess is their main selling point. (With speeds of "0.3M - 10M, depending".)10:25
sonogsm-450 o.o that's some seriously old stuff here10:25
DocScrutinizer05http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM-R10:26
ShadowJKYeah I thought Digita still had it10:26
sonowell we still use that10:26
sonowell we need reliable data on our rails10:27
sonofor the actual operation, not for meatbags wanting to check their mail10:27
sonoDocScrutinizer05: oh are you german too?10:28
sonohaha i didn't even notice.10:28
DocScrutinizer05no, I live on third planet, SOL-310:28
sonothat's stupid10:29
sonowho names a planet SOL10:29
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DocScrutinizer05the system is SOL10:29
sonooh my10:29
DocScrutinizer05SOL-3 is third planet in system SOL10:29
sonoi should wake up before i irc10:30
ShadowJKthe exposed engineering panels are disturbing10:30
DocScrutinizer05natives have another name for this planet, they always do10:31
ShadowJKwell not exposed, but the equipment cabinet has transparent windows10:31
ShadowJKsaid "Brake error" on the display :-)10:31
DocScrutinizer05;-)10:31
DocScrutinizer05ShadowJK: hehe10:31
DocScrutinizer05seen that often10:31
sonohaha nice one10:32
jaskaits more lue €450.. the transfer limits are pretty low10:36
jaskalike*10:36
jaskathe @4510:36
jaska010:36
DocScrutinizer05ShadowJK: also funny: on those panels you see how they do electric power for the train waggons. Each one has its own dynamo and batteries10:37
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DocScrutinizer0548V usually, IIRC10:38
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ShadowJKDocScrutinizer05; these are fed by the locomotive's pickup I think12:52
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ShadowJKthough there was also a battery voltage needle resting at just below 150V13:00
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ShadowJKThe old "blue" cars from 60s were designed to be pulled by diesels, and had the dynamo+batterybank, and their own oil tank for heating :)13:07
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_jester_hello world14:27
_jester_one quick question14:29
_jester_can i simply install cssu-stable or cssu-testing if im not happy with cssu-thumb14:29
_jester_or would it require a flash?14:29
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XATRIXI think i've broke some dbus service in my maemo14:52
XATRIXWhen i plug in my AC charger - nothing happens14:53
XATRIXWhat service should i try to restart ? Don't want to reset the whole device14:53
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SpeedEvilWhy do you think it's not hardware XATRIX?15:16
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XATRIXSpeedEvil: bmc is a software controlled stuff15:20
XATRIXSorry, BME15:20
SpeedEvilAre yourunning stock BME?15:21
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XATRIXSpeedEvil: yes, DocScrutinizer05 instruct me not to run any BME replacement15:56
XATRIXCurrently i do plug/unplug of a AC charger. Nothing changes on screen. No yellow indicator in idle mode15:57
SpeedEvilAnd you've tried a different cable and charger/socket15:57
XATRIXI'm sure it will be ok, after i restart the device. But i'm curious what's happening now15:57
XATRIXDon't want to simply restart15:57
XATRIXThe charger is 100% healthy15:57
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_jester_stupid data plan16:51
_jester_hello again world16:51
_jester_same question16:51
_jester_do i need to re-flash to shift from thumb to stable or testing cssu?16:52
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Raimu-XI don't think so16:58
Raimu-XBut it's probably recommended anyhoo16:59
Raimu-XThumb is the one you need a specific kernel to use16:59
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_jester_thanks Raimu17:40
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Vibehi18:20
Vibedo you know if its possible to use nokia RCA cable to output just sound from n900 ?18:20
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Vibeto speakers18:21
Vibecable is Nokia CA-75U18:21
MMN-oVibe: Solution 1. Just use a generic headphone cable.18:24
MMN-oVibe: Solution 2.  You can enable the audio output for headphones using 'alsamixer' or something.18:25
MMN-o(while having video output disabled)18:25
MMN-oI did it the other way around once, enabling local speakers while outputing video over RCA.18:26
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VibeMMN-o: hmm got it working with splitter cable -> http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MzQ0WDUwMA==/z/vnoAAOxyLiJR39GC/$T2eC16FHJGgFFm+cPy1OBR39GB)qY!~~60_1.JPG?set_id=880000500718:31
Vibeso n900 thinks to just output audio18:32
Vibeso 3.5mm extension cable or adapter would do the trick also18:33
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ruskiehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHLkWd8z9PY18:54
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DocScrutinizer05Vibe: solution 3: short the yellow plug of CA-75 with a second rca plug or some tin foil or whatever you see fit19:18
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