IRC log of #maemo for Thursday, 2013-10-17

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freemangordon_d0t: well, the kernel boots maemo5, that's for sure :)00:12
freemangordonnfc what gentoo requires to boot00:13
_d0tfreemangordon: looks like it doesnt boot at all in my case. After I connect my n900 to the pc, dmesg shows its in update mode00:13
freemangordonBTW you may want to check the cmdline, maybe it is incompatible00:13
_d0tno, i should get at least something on the screen00:13
_d0ti used almost the same config as with 3.10 which boots fine00:14
freemangordon_d0t: sorry, can't parse, WTF has PC to do with gentoo booting on n900?00:14
_d0tfreemangordon: when n900 has kernel running, dmesg on pc looks differently00:14
_d0tthe kernel from n900 reports its version, etc00:15
freemangordon_d0t: to the PC?!?00:15
_d0tfreemangordon: yes00:15
freemangordonhow's it connected? mass-storage?00:16
_d0tg_ether00:16
freemangordong_ether is broken in 3.1200:16
freemangordonor wat it g_nokia?00:16
freemangordon*was00:16
_d0tg_nokia probably. Its also broken in 3.1000:16
_d0tg_ether works fine00:16
_d0thttp://pastebin.com/wrS6fi2400:16
freemangordonanyway, the kernel on my gitorious tree for sure boots00:17
_d0tnot for me. Can you give me your config?00:17
freemangordon_d0t: the config is there, rx51_defconfig00:17
freemangordonyou know, make rx51_defconfig00:18
freemangordonmake zImage00:18
_d0tyup, my config is based on that00:18
freemangordonetc.00:18
_d0texcept i turned off several filesystems and some not related drivers00:18
freemangordon_d0t: NFC then, but you can trust me oon that one :). even CMT works ;)00:19
_d0thow did you manage to fit it into the mtd kernel partition btw?00:19
_d0tthe defconfig kernel is a little larger than 2mb00:19
freemangordonooh, wait00:19
freemangordonI am using u-boot00:19
_d0ti thought so00:19
freemangordon_d0t: BTW, you;d better join #maemo-ssu00:20
_d0tok, i'm there now00:20
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DocScrutinizer05kolp: _d0t: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/calibrate-bq27k.sh01:54
DocScrutinizer05((<_d0t> except i turned off several filesystems and some not related drivers)) HAH01:57
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ApicMorn (UGT).10:22
DocScrutinizer05moo10:24
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merlin1991~moo12:16
infobotmooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo.12:16
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ShadowJKOllila about Nokia's ceo kairamo ( kairamo, ollila, opk, elop  (iirc)): "He hated the banks' power and influence over industrial companies. He himself was quite powerless" ... "He wanted everything we did to atleast be fun" ... "Once, to the delight of his friends, he hung from the door of a helicopter while traveling to an Island that Nokia owned."13:11
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DocScrutinizer05lol15:18
sonomew?15:19
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keriomoo15:30
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DocScrutinizer05ACL on www - finally! \o/15:33
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narcosHi maemoers. Anyone else unable to login here? - http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php16:38
narcosI get "Product ID not valid. Please re-enter the 15-digit IMEI code."16:38
narcosMeh, ffs, have to remove forward slahes16:39
narcosI wonder if I should use the UK or global one16:41
kolpnarcos: Just get the firmware from one of the mirrors16:41
narcosaha16:42
* narcos finds http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/nokia_N900/16:42
narcosIt seems I need to perform these commands:   flasher-3.5 -F RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R   ,   flasher-3.5 -F RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R   , and then the first one again16:43
narcosDoes this script seem correct ? - http://pastebin.com/N5vYhzg516:45
l4m3rxmmm.... i think not... w816:46
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l4m3rxhttp://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware#N90016:48
l4m3rxas far as I remember it was only a 2 stop process for full flash.16:49
l4m3rxso I guess the script will work , but will do something two times... (maybe there's some hidden idea behind it..not sure)16:49
kolpYes, no need to flash root twice16:49
kolpAnd no need to remove the battery16:50
kolp-R reboots16:50
l4m3rxbtw i'm having a strange problem.... i cannot change my security code on the n900... it tells me 'security code not changed' after inputing (two times) the new one....any1 had issue like this?16:51
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kolpnarcos: Removing the battery while rebooting is probabl not healthy for the device16:52
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narcoskolp: Thanks. I made the script after reading several different tutorials.17:01
merlin1991~flashing17:01
infobothmm... maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware17:01
merlin1991the main and truly right resource ;)17:01
narcosyeah read that one, and a couple of others. I wrote the script some time ago, so forget why the double flash now.17:02
merlin1991regarding double flash, probably: http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#Flashing_the_eMMC_in_the_N90017:02
merlin1991so yeah the wiki tells you todo that :)17:03
narcosahhh yes17:04
kolpso, without -R :)17:05
sonowith -R for reboot; the wiki page still advises removing the battery, iirc17:05
narcosSo the process works, and I flashed a few phones, but then I installed the PwnieExpress 'pwnphone' software, which fails with a big ugly optfs error17:06
kolpWell, it all depends on the order of things17:06
l4m3rxnon GUI app to change the security code ?17:08
merlin1991pwnieexpress seems to be so badly done, we get all kinds of complaints about it in here17:09
narcosmerlin1991: Ahh, that sucks. And they don't seem to maintain it any longer.17:10
merlin1991I don't see the point in using it anyways17:11
l4m3rx^ +117:11
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merlin1991maemo + stuff from extras devel does everything17:12
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merlin1991and if you want fancy new you can always attempt to get stuff running under nemo17:12
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narcosYeah, I agree. Can just add all the tools manually. Was nice just having it all pre-done.17:13
narcosbut now I have a non-booting device, so, bleh.17:13
psycho_oreosYou could easily run pwnie express in a maemo chroot. Much less mess and headaches. I don't know why people still insist on installing pwnie express to their own base setup.17:14
sonoin other news, i had a runaway process two days ago, the battery is actually good and still showing full after a day of nearly idle on 2G.17:14
narcospsycho_oreos: Hm, tell me more?17:14
sonoso yea..17:14
psycho_oreosnarcos, I once had a maemo environment within a chroot. I basically extracted the contents from the fiasco of the rootfs and dumped them all into a normal "fs container".17:15
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narcosHmm @ http://maemo.org/downloads/product/PC/770flasher/ - "You can?t open the application ?770Flasher? because PowerPC applications are no longer supported."17:16
psycho_oreosIt's not perfect, pwnie express setup within chroot. You don't get to have the fancy kernel and kernel modules because it's all enclosed and heavily relies on maemo base.17:16
narcospsycho_oreos: Ahh ok17:17
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* narcos finds maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2_i386.dmg17:23
l4m3rx.dmg ?17:24
narcosSeems that 's broken too17:24
narcos"However, since OS X Lion this installer hasn't worked completely. To make it work you need to install the .pkg from the .dmg and then execute the following commands:...."17:25
narcosl4m3rx: yeah, for OSX17:25
l4m3rxOh... strange combination ..osx & n900 ... :)17:25
narcosheh17:25
narcosIt would seem so.17:26
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narcosRwwwarrrr. Let's try from a Linux VM then. This seems dangerous.17:30
l4m3rxnot if you passthrou one of the USBs17:31
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narcosPass through is pretty good with VMWare17:34
narcosIt is shitty with VirtualBox17:34
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l4m3rxqemu/kvm FTW :)17:35
narcosSeems to be working so far, with that hack of a script I wrote :)17:37
narcosIf I wanted to 'fix' the PwnPhone setup, what would I do?17:38
narcosI mean the general direction17:39
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l4m3rxrewrite it17:41
l4m3rx:)17:41
narcosheh, yes17:41
l4m3rxjk ^. not even sure what the issues with pwnphone are :) I've never had the need to install it.17:42
narcosI mean, shall I take a stock N900, install power kernel + all appropriate tools, and then somehow image it?17:42
l4m3rxIt will probably be best just to make meta package containing all the stuff in it (probably 90% of the packages are already in the repo)17:43
l4m3rxand be sure move all stuff to /opt so it dosnt waste space on the root patition17:44
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narcosHmm - meta package you say. Could you elaborate? So, a package that when I install, will infall a bunch of other packages?17:46
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l4m3rxmeta packages is..... well , package containing few other packages (a pretty stupid way to explain it but you'll understand what I mean)17:46
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l4m3rxIn reality the meta pacakge itself dosnt contain any packages...it just has deps on all packages you want him to "contain"17:48
sonojust a package with dependencies that pulls in what you need, really. optionally with more glue17:48
l4m3rxy...sono explaind it better :)17:49
narcosok cool17:50
narcosWell, my script worked.17:51
narcosWithout the final flash there were no icons, which is weird?17:51
narcosBut, 3rd flash worked.17:51
l4m3rx3rd time's the charm :P17:51
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narcosHm, now the N900 is not seeing any wifi networks18:00
l4m3rxremove and then reload the wifi module. It may help.18:01
narcosHow do I do that? The drivers?18:01
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l4m3rxMMm... if you have "advanced interface switcher" or what whas the package's name .... (a menu shit witch adds possability to turn on/off wifi, bt and gsm) you can use it18:06
l4m3rxthis is the GUI way to do it ...the CLI is : rmmod (modname)18:06
narcosifconfig lists the wlan0 device, odd18:06
l4m3rxand then modprobe (modname)18:06
l4m3rxifconfig should list it.18:06
l4m3rxiwconfig and ifconfig are used to config different things. So they both display the wifi adapters18:07
narcosk will try modprobing18:07
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narcosDoes an ssh server come running my default? I can't remember. I've configured the usb0 device, but can't seem to ping or ssh in18:10
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kolpnarcos: nope18:11
l4m3rxnope18:11
user_wth18:11
l4m3rxi think its not even installed  by default18:11
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narcosdang18:11
MaceN900how does nick completion without tab work in xchat?18:11
MaceN900shouldnt it just be (partial nick),18:12
MaceN900and it should send the nick?18:12
MaceN900narcos: ?18:12
MaceN900oh. it worked there. weird18:12
* narcos raises an eyebrow @ MaceN900 18:13
MaceN900sorry. testing it18:13
MaceN900infobot: word18:13
infobotword is probably in reference to Robert Bork, a nominee to the Supreme Court who, despite being very qualified was not appointed to the court due to partisan reasons.18:13
MaceN900odd18:13
MaceN900robert bork hahahah18:14
narcosHm, and there's no ssh server in the default repos?18:14
MaceN900i thought openssh was there18:14
MaceN900server and client18:14
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MaceN900bbl18:14
narcosI seem to remember there was a magic URL that when surfed to would add a bunch of nice repos?18:14
narcosMaceN900: 'apt-cache search ssh' suspiciously returns 0 rows18:15
MaceN900openssh - Secure shell client and server18:15
MaceN900er....?18:15
MaceN900did you update to cssu?18:15
MaceN900and is extras enabled?18:15
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MaceN900sorry.. have to go18:15
narcosJust booted a fresh flashed device - haven't done anything yet :-.18:15
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kolpnarcos: openssh seems to be in extras-devel18:16
narcosah18:16
kolpnarcos: dropbear, too18:17
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narcoskolp: I seem to remember a URL that when browsed to would add a bunch of useful repos. Do you know it?18:21
narcos!repos18:21
kolpnarcos: Nope, sorry18:23
narcoskk18:25
* narcos Googles harder18:26
sono~repositories18:28
infobotrepositories are frequently old.18:28
sono=p18:28
sono~maemo-devel18:28
* sono shrugs18:28
sonohometime18:28
narcos:)18:30
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* narcos will try again later. Gotta go too.18:32
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brolin_empeyfreemangordon: Pali: Any news regarding my 2 patches to kernel-power?19:42
freemangordonbrolin_empey: Pali's laptop is back in function :)19:42
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Palibrolin_empey: will look at it19:42
Palinow playing with cssu19:43
PaliI cannot do everything at same time19:43
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Paliplease paste output of this command run on n900: dpkg -L osso-memory-backend | grep include19:53
Palineed to know what is on stock maemo, cssu stable, cssu testing and other versions too19:53
freemangordonNokia-N900:~#  dpkg -L osso-memory-backend | grep include19:54
freemangordon/usr/include19:54
freemangordon/usr/include/gtkfilesystemmemory19:54
freemangordon/usr/include/gtkfilesystemmemory/gtkfilesystemmemory.h19:54
freemangordonthis is cssu-thumb :P19:54
Palimerlin1991, freemangordon, DocScrutinizer05, kerio ^^^^19:54
Palithanks19:54
freemangordonPali: I guess only DocScrutinizer05 have stock device19:54
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Palithis needs to be fixed, header file should not be on production device automatically19:54
Paliand osso-memory-backend is core maemo package19:55
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kerioPali: same as fmg19:57
Paliok19:57
Paliso this is definitly bug19:57
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sat2050hi20:07
sat2050can some one help me with my n900 wifi20:07
sat2050I am able to scan the networks well20:07
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sat2050wifiinfo also shows good signal quality20:07
sat2050but not able to connect to them20:07
sat2050only if i keep n900 very close to the router20:07
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sat2050practically touching it20:07
sat2050then it is able to connect20:07
sat2050please help20:08
sat2050I still dont think the hardware is screwed because scanning works perfectly fine20:08
sat2050anyone who can help me with this20:09
sat2050??20:09
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sat2050any experienced users here?20:10
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sat2050help please20:17
sat2050someone20:17
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Woody14619sat2050, probably best to make a post on talk.maemo.org for help on this.20:28
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sat2050Woody14619: ok thanks20:33
FatPhilmaemo.org/downloads/ should not require javascript just to show a full-sized version of a screenshot, IMHO20:37
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ruskiehttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/17/ollia_memoirs/22:25
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PaliI will push fixed gtkfilesystemmemory/osso-memory-backend package to git on cssu gitorious and to cssu-devel22:47
Paliheader files will be in new package osso-memory-backend-dev22:47
Paliso not on n900 device anymore22:47
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Palidone22:56
Palimerlin1991, freemangordon ^^^^22:57
Palihttps://gitorious.org/community-ssu/gtkfilesystemmemory/commits/master22:57
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