IRC log of #maemo for Monday, 2016-05-23

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luke-jris there a way to find out my phone number from N900?01:08
luke-jrSwitzerland's "Salt" if that matters01:08
Sicelono01:08
Siceloalthough your provider could have a USSD sequence for that01:08
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DocScrutinizer05so what's up folks, nobody willing to test http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach ?02:07
DocScrutinizer05luke-jr: there's no official or generic way to find out your phone's telephone number. Since that is assigned to your IMSI (aka SIM) by the provider's infra and the phone doesn't (have to) know it02:09
DocScrutinizer05you can try: *#62# *100# *101# *135# 08009377546 resp +498009377546, or check your SIM content and hope the number got stored there, often on SIM's addrbook slot #102:11
keriowhy are you assuming that it's only one phone number?02:15
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OksanaDocScrutinizer05: What does "- 2>/dev/null" mean? Stderr to nowhere? Otherwise, one neat line. But, flash-it-all means that everything (MyDocs, home, rootfs) will get erased-overwritten, right? So not ready to test that, yet. Besides, I do not think I have a single N900 with working microUSB port...02:26
DocScrutinizer05the script asks whether to flash vanilla too02:26
OksanaOkay, so flashing home+MyDocs is optional... Nice to know. Especially in case where a device refuses to boot due to full RootFS. | Local makerspace wishes to put all Fix-it into late-evening, so I haven't visited a single one yet. But might be able to visit their Soldering 101 workshop on Wednesday, hopefully.02:29
DocScrutinizer05((What does "- 2>/dev/null" mean? Stderr to nowhere?)) yes03:08
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VajbLMD:2872 :)12:17
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sunshaviHi guys17:27
sunshaviI have been playing on n800 with fmradio.17:28
sunshaviDone is a c prg that chg the radio chanell on the fly17:28
Sicelo:)17:29
sunshavibased on the header that comes with fmradio pkg "fm_radio_utils.h"17:29
Sicelofor n800 you had to shut down radio first to change frequency? O.o17:30
sunshavino, i am changing it on the fly17:30
sunshavinot shutting down anything17:30
sunshaviit is a very simple prg17:30
sunshavis/prg/program/17:30
infobotsunshavi meant: it is a very simple program17:30
Sicelolol. i understand what you're doing now .. i am asking what had to be done before...?17:30
sunshaviwell. on n800 from the cli, You can call fmradio binary. And it launches fmradio app17:31
sunshavii want to turn on the radio from cli now17:31
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sunshavithe header have just 5 functions17:32
Sicelookay. i don't think we understand each other. :)17:32
Sicelogreat work though17:32
sunshavione of the functions is "fm_radio_getsignal", any idea what is this for?17:33
KotCzarnymaybe signal quality17:33
Sicelo:)17:33
sunshavimmm, when i called fm_audio_unmute the progarm segfaulted. probably I need to set-up smth before calling that function17:34
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Siceloit's good to know the quality of a connection for stereo purposes .. no point decoding stereo when your signal is bad. most household radios go momo if signal is bad, so yes, that's wht it likely is for, as KotCzarny said17:34
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Sicelo momo->mono17:35
sunshaviok. Thanks 4 the help guys. Let's keep experimenting with it17:36
sunshavi:)17:36
sunshavibtw. All os this part is close sourced by nokia yet. But in the kernel headers I have seen a v4l2 header. That could be handy too17:37
sunshavis/All os/All of/17:37
infobotsunshavi meant: btw. All of this part is close sourced by nokia yet. But in the kernel headers I have seen a v4l2 header. That could be handy too17:37
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DocScrutinizer05fm_radio_getsignal  might possibly tell about signal strength18:36
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sunshavithanks DocScrutinizer0518:46
DocScrutinizer05yw, wild guessing though on my side18:46
sunshaviok, if I got starting it from cli. I am going lo let You know guys18:47
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Vajbchess game saving is not working. Or it seems to work, but when i try to open it. It can't be found. I mean program doesn't see my save file.21:15
DocScrutinizer05Vajb: make sure your pathname is valid21:28
DocScrutinizer05prolly bug reports are welcome21:28
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VajbDocScrutinizer05: tested it with memory card and internal memory. File is created, but game doesn't see it.21:38
DocScrutinizer05hmmmm21:39
DocScrutinizer05ls -l check permission flags and owner21:39
DocScrutinizer05make sure any possible .ext is present in your filename21:40
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Vajb-rwxrwxrwx    1 user     root          173 May 23 15:30 Chess.game21:47
Sicelothe group s wrong21:48
Sicelo*is21:48
KotCzarnyvajb, you can try running that chess app via strace21:48
KotCzarnyand seeing which files it tries to open21:48
KotCzarnygroup permisssions are wrong but not the problem21:48
DocScrutinizer05shouldn't hurt too much21:54
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DocScrutinizer05777 anyway21:54
DocScrutinizer05Vajb: you took care about the uppercase C ?21:54
DocScrutinizer05Vajb: please try a cat Chess.game  (or, depending on what's available on your system, mcedit Chess.game; less Chess.game; od Chess.game; more Chess.game)21:56
DocScrutinizer05also ls -ld .21:57
DocScrutinizer05maybe the dir doesn't allow chess to execute aka list entries21:57
DocScrutinizer05please also provide full pathname of the file21:59
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Vajbdrwxrwxrwx    3 user     root        65536 May 23 21:13 .22:04
Vajbfile is in /home/user/Mydocs/.documents. Default path suggested by chess itself22:04
VajbKotCzarny: tried strace but it blurbed so much stuff that i was lost22:05
VajbDocScrutinizer05: i opened file with leafpad. Should i look something specific from there?22:06
DocScrutinizer05no, just make sure it's actuially readable and has content22:07
DocScrutinizer05Vajb: did you cange MyDocs filesystem from vfat to e.g. ext3?22:08
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DocScrutinizer05mount|grep MyDoc22:08
Vajbdidn't22:09
DocScrutinizer05which should look like  /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /home/user/MyDocs type vfat (rw,noatime,nodiratime,noauto,nodev,exec,nosuid,utf8,uid=29999,shortname=mixed,dmask=000,fmask=0000,rodir)22:09
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Vajb/dev/mmcblk0p1 on /home/user/MyDocs type vfat (rw,noatime,nodiratime,noauto,nodev,exec,nosuid,utf8,uid=29999,shortname=mixed,dmask=000,fmask=0000,rodir)22:11
Vajbit's a match22:11
DocScrutinizer05yep22:11
DocScrutinizer05I'm starting chess22:11
DocScrutinizer05(if I can find it on any of my active devices)22:12
KotCzarnyvajb: strace 2>&1 app params |grep ^open22:12
KotCzarnyyou are interested in what it tries to open anyway22:12
DocScrutinizer05got it22:14
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DocScrutinizer05works here22:16
Sicelo:)22:17
* Sicelo had tested a while ago already. something's likely up with Vajb's FS22:17
Sicelo:-/22:17
DocScrutinizer05Vajb: make sure that on "open" your filepicker dialog actually shows the same "Nokia N900/Documents"22:18
DocScrutinizer05Vajb: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20160523_001.jpg22:20
DocScrutinizer05that filepicker dialog is a tad clumsy22:21
SiceloVajb: by the way, since you can 'see' the file, what happens when you tap it open?22:22
DocScrutinizer05aiui he "sees" it only in filemanager22:22
DocScrutinizer05she?22:22
Sicelothat's good enough .. tap open22:23
DocScrutinizer05ack22:23
DocScrutinizer05mimetypes should do the rest22:23
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VajbSicelo: if i tap it at default filemanager it opens the game22:23
Vajbgood enough for me i guess :)22:24
Sicelo:)22:24
Sicelolol22:24
DocScrutinizer05no, please check if your filepicker dialog in game is broken22:24
DocScrutinizer05Vajb: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20160523_001.jpg22:24
Vajbhmm could it make some problem that i removed osso-chess once and then reinstalled? Maybe it didn't do it cleanly.22:25
DocScrutinizer05it's a very common problem of that dialog that users don't notice a different path in the upper button22:25
Vajbit looks like correct22:27
Vajbonly difference is that i renamed my device to WTF22:27
DocScrutinizer05also the path shown (and used) in this upper dirtree button is depending on name of device and locale22:27
Vajbcould that be case?22:27
Sicelolol, WTF!!!22:27
Sicelothat's why22:27
DocScrutinizer05yep22:27
Sicelohaha, just pulling your leg22:27
KotCzarnyvajb, check what file it tries to save/open and compare paths22:28
DocScrutinizer05please click on the button "Neo900/Dokumente" (or whatever) and make sure it points to the right dir22:28
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DocScrutinizer05it should prolly actually read "WTF/documents"22:30
DocScrutinizer05not sure22:30
DocScrutinizer05dang22:32
Vajbyes it does point to right dir22:32
DocScrutinizer05s/Neo900/nokia N900/22:32
Sicelohaha22:32
Sicelosomeone's living in the future yet22:33
KotCzarnysicelo, we all do22:33
DocScrutinizer05what makes you sure I didn't name my N900 "Neo900" ?22:33
KotCzarnyimagine fitting all worlds libraries in the size of your nail22:33
DocScrutinizer05Vajb: please actually click the button and explicitly browse the dir tree to select the right dir22:34
DocScrutinizer05Vajb: as in: if it really would point to the right dir, you'd see the Chess file22:35
DocScrutinizer05there's a symlink MyDocs/.documents/ in the filesystem, which would break stuff for you if missing22:36
DocScrutinizer05sorry, it's no Symlink here, it's a true dir22:37
Vajbit doesn't help. Even if i choose it from the start22:37
Vajbmeaning i slect WTF etc22:37
DocScrutinizer05sth is messed up on your system22:37
Vajbalso i created another chess.game at root of the memory card and it doesn't see it either22:38
Vajblemme try to put it in some other folder22:38
* DocScrutinizer05 glares at freedesktop XDG22:40
DocScrutinizer05https://specifications.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html   ***Lennart Poettering*** WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!22:42
* DocScrutinizer05 headdesks violently22:42
Vajbhmm strange indeed. I created folder "Chess" in WTF and it doesn't show up in chess, but when i created "chess" folder to memory card it is shown, but is empty. Altho it contains chess.game file.22:43
* Sicelo can't parse (the memory card part) ..22:45
Siceloah.. you mean the application does not 'see' the file that in memory card/chess directory?22:46
Vajbyes22:53
Vajbi have /media/mmc1/chess/chess.game and chess game shows just empty directory22:54
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Vajbalso i created /home/user/.chess and game doesn't see it at all22:55
DocScrutinizer05ok, this randomly picked N900 is thoroughly fsckdup22:57
DocScrutinizer05icons in applauncher vanished22:57
DocScrutinizer05starting chess nevertheless, reboots the device22:57
Vajbalso i checked from .desktop file that exec for chess is /usr/bin/chessui.launch, but when i run that in terminal it segfaults22:58
DocScrutinizer05"inernal error: program _calendar terminated"22:58
DocScrutinizer05yes, you can't run that22:59
VajbDocScrutinizer05: i got that rarely with settings22:59
Vajbi mean "internal error: programm settings terminated"23:00
DocScrutinizer05Vajb: could you please do "SAVE"  "NEW" create_a_folder "Test", click "Test", click "test" button, save game name "tttttt"23:02
Vajbbut i have a theory; could it be that when i purged osso-chess and then installed it again after few months, some file priorities or something didn't got set as if default?23:02
DocScrutinizer05some config files might not have been installed in a correct way, yes23:03
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DocScrutinizer05((could you please))  after I do 2Open" then, it already gives me "Nokia N900/test" dir and shows "tttt" file23:05
DocScrutinizer05s/2/"/23:05
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: ((could you please))  after I do "Open" then, it already gives me "Nokia N900/test" dir and shows "tttt" file23:05
DocScrutinizer05it seems to me you're still using different paths for SAVE and OPEN23:06
DocScrutinizer05or incorrect file permissions, or whatever23:06
Vajbbut how can it be, if i browse to directory from the start of the tree?23:06
DocScrutinizer05the filepicker dialog is severely messed up by design23:07
Vajbalso when i select save game it doesn't give me option to create new folder. or i misunderstood u.23:08
DocScrutinizer05it mangles pathnames23:08
Vajbi can just pick one of the excisting ones23:08
DocScrutinizer05err, I have a button "NEW" in lower right corner23:08
DocScrutinizer05you obvuously need to enter the dir selector function23:09
DocScrutinizer05by clicking on the upper button left side23:09
DocScrutinizer05wait...23:09
Vajbinside chess game?23:09
DocScrutinizer05inside chess game start a new game23:10
DocScrutinizer05click the back arrow upper right tp go to the root menu23:11
DocScrutinizer05open dropdown menu23:11
DocScrutinizer05select "Save"23:11
Vajbdone23:11
DocScrutinizer05click "storage location" (the lower button under the text input field23:12
DocScrutinizer05on lower right you see "New"23:12
Vajbcreated folder saved game there and when i browse to folder to open game it says it is empty23:12
DocScrutinizer05that's pretty mad23:13
Vajband i can see the file being in there at file manager23:13
Vajbbeats me23:13
KotCzarnyvajb, did you check strace ?23:14
Vajbwhen i get home i'll do some comparison between my devices and see if i can figure out something odd23:14
DocScrutinizer05apt-get purge osso-chess-ui osso-graphics-game-chess gnuchess osso-sounds-game-chess  &&23:14
DocScrutinizer05apt-get install osso-chess-ui osso-graphics-game-chess gnuchess osso-sounds-game-chess23:14
DocScrutinizer05at own risk!23:15
VajbKotCzarny: i couldn't get it to launch game23:15
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DocScrutinizer05Vajb: you can't start stuff like that in terminal I guess23:15
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Vajbhow i check if i have all of those installed?23:15
Vajbdpkg something osso?23:16
DocScrutinizer05chess is obviously started only via dbus23:20
DocScrutinizer05MimeType=application/game  X-Osso-Service=com.nokia.osso_chess.startup     osso_games_startup23:22
Vajbat least i have all those files23:22
Vajbwill comare their priorities and stuff at home23:23
DocScrutinizer05priorities??23:23
Vajbcompare*23:23
DocScrutinizer05I honestly suggest to purge and reinstall $everything-chess23:23
Vajbmm permissions maybe?23:24
DocScrutinizer05http://paste.opensuse.org/4160216823:25
DocScrutinizer05you also might suffer from some weird messup in mimetypes23:27
DocScrutinizer05though then probably clicking on a savedxxx.game in filemanager wouldn't start the game23:27
DocScrutinizer05debugging this stuff is pretty much useless since it's obviously a broken config on your system, since none of us sees same effect23:29
DocScrutinizer05so it would turn into a chase of "what did you do to XYZ a year ago?"23:29
DocScrutinizer05where XYZ could be quite a number of things, from applauncher over mimetypes to XDG to filesystems to....23:30
DocScrutinizer05while such chase is _sometimes_ fun, it usually doesn't allow us to learn much useful stuff23:31
DocScrutinizer05anyway other apps use the exactly same filepicker dialog, so you could test with another app - preferrably not one that sets a fixed "*.game" search pattern, if the problem is the same23:37
DocScrutinizer05s/tern,/tern -/23:37
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: anyway other apps use the exactly same filepicker dialog, so you could test with another app - preferrably not one that sets a fixed "*.game" search pattern - if the problem is the same23:37
DocScrutinizer05e.g. in stock filemanager the "Move" function (and basically whole filemanager) is using all the same dialogs23:42
DocScrutinizer05like chess does23:42
DocScrutinizer05we've seen other weird fsckup like camera-ui creating dirs in lowercase, then trying to open it in uppercase, which worked as long as the dir was on a VFAT FS23:44
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DocScrutinizer05I honestly have no clue what could cause chess to not see files it created, while they are actually there23:45
DocScrutinizer05the most plausible thing would be you did something to the system while renaming the device23:45
DocScrutinizer05but that wouldn't explain how chess can find dirs it created but doesn't find files it created in those dirs23:46
DocScrutinizer05obviously chess sets a filter like "*.game" for the files to display, and mangles the name by stripping the extension. Sth with that must be wrong23:47
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DocScrutinizer05mimetypes are involved into that, as is the chess code itself obviously, then also char encoding settings and whatnot else23:48
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Vajbi tried all sorts of renamings, uppercase, lowecase. Got nowhere23:56
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