IRC log of #maemo for Thursday, 2017-05-11

Enrico_MenottiOk, after some reading, googling and trying, I inverted the y axis. Now up is up and down is down.00:16
*** shentey has joined #maemo00:18
*** capitanocrunch has joined #maemo00:23
*** capitanocrunch has joined #maemo00:23
*** capitanocrunch has quit IRC00:24
*** capitanocrunch has joined #maemo00:31
Enrico_MenottiAlso calibrated the screen (heuristically). Cool.00:38
*** capitanocrunch has quit IRC00:48
*** Pali has quit IRC00:50
*** xy2_ has quit IRC00:50
*** xy2_ has joined #maemo00:53
*** at1as has quit IRC00:58
*** xy2_ has quit IRC00:59
*** capitanocrunch has joined #maemo01:01
*** xy2_ has joined #maemo01:01
*** xy2_ has quit IRC01:07
*** dafox has quit IRC01:14
*** shentey has quit IRC01:34
*** florian has quit IRC01:35
*** TheKit has quit IRC01:44
*** L29Ah has quit IRC01:45
*** L29Ah has joined #maemo01:47
*** xorly has quit IRC01:57
*** xorly has joined #maemo02:00
*** xorly has quit IRC02:11
*** sunshavi has joined #maemo02:17
*** eMHa__ has quit IRC03:18
*** infobot has quit IRC03:28
*** infobot has joined #maemo03:30
*** oksanaa has joined #maemo03:55
*** oksanaa is now known as Wikiwide03:55
*** Wikiwide has left #maemo03:57
*** oksanaa has joined #maemo03:58
*** oksanaa is now known as Wikiwide03:58
WikiwideA question: is Chromium in maemo repositories? If not, why - weren't patent disputes settled already?03:59
MaxdamantusI don't think it has to do with patent issues.04:08
MaxdamantusThere is a really old package somewhere that came from Debian.04:08
MaxdamantusAccording to the Debian mailing list, they removed that package at some point (from arm) because it was hard to compile and noone could be bothered maintaining it.04:09
WikiwideThere was a Council notice aeons ago that Nokia decided, to be on the safe side, to remove Chromium from repositories because of patents. https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=5576204:10
WikiwideAnd yes, being hard to compile is a reasonable explanation as to why it's not in the repositories atm.04:12
WikiwideAlso, since hildon-application-manager is in free repository... Does it get improvements with time? Because I don't want to use Qt-based Faster Application Manager.04:13
MaxdamantusWeird, didn't know about that incident.04:15
*** phlixi_ has joined #maemo04:32
*** phlixi has quit IRC04:32
*** robink has left #maemo04:53
*** cyteen has quit IRC05:15
*** Wikiwide has quit IRC05:24
*** cyteen has joined #maemo05:29
*** vahe has joined #maemo06:09
*** Wikiwide has joined #maemo06:23
*** Funnyface has quit IRC06:55
*** Funnyface has joined #maemo07:01
*** spiiroin has quit IRC07:43
*** Wikiwide has quit IRC08:00
*** oksanaa has joined #maemo08:00
*** oksanaa is now known as Wikiwide08:01
*** eMHa__ has joined #maemo08:04
*** Wikiwide has quit IRC08:05
*** oksanaa has joined #maemo08:06
*** oksanaa is now known as Wikiwide08:06
*** stryngs has quit IRC08:13
*** stryngs has joined #maemo08:15
*** spiiroin has joined #maemo08:39
*** shentey has joined #maemo08:51
*** sunshavi has quit IRC09:08
*** shentey has quit IRC09:18
*** dmth|intevation has joined #maemo09:31
*** xorly has joined #maemo09:56
*** xorly has quit IRC10:11
*** L29Ah has quit IRC10:20
*** L29Ah has joined #maemo10:20
*** TheKit has joined #maemo10:33
*** Funnyface has quit IRC10:42
*** Funnyface has joined #maemo10:49
*** L29Ah has quit IRC10:49
*** L29Ah has joined #maemo10:50
*** xorly has joined #maemo11:15
*** xorly has quit IRC12:06
sixwheeledbeastHAM has had updates as part of CSSU12:11
sixwheeledbeast~speedyHAM12:11
infobotSpeedyHAM is 30 times faster than HAM http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb.  SpeedyHAM is included in CSSU now12:11
sixwheeledbeastlistkeys speedyHAM12:15
sixwheeledbeast~listkeys speedyham12:15
infobotFactoid search of 'speedyham' by key (1): speedyham.12:15
*** florian has joined #maemo12:17
sixwheeledbeastspeedyham12:17
sixwheeledbeast~speedyham12:17
infobot[speedyham] 30 times faster than HAM https://github.com/community-ssu/hildon-application-manager, now included in CSSU.12:17
sixwheeledbeastI am not awake today...12:18
*** xes_ is now known as xes12:26
*** Wikiwide has quit IRC12:28
*** NeKit has joined #maemo13:08
*** xorly has joined #maemo13:25
*** Funnyface has quit IRC13:27
*** Funnyface has joined #maemo13:33
siceloi don't know about 30 times13:42
*** Juesto has joined #maemo13:45
*** Juesto has left #maemo13:45
*** xorly has quit IRC13:46
sixwheeledbeast*Disclaimer - results may vary14:00
sixwheeledbeastIt is considerably faster at most tasks14:01
*** vahe has quit IRC14:26
*** Kabouik has joined #maemo14:29
*** at1as has joined #maemo14:43
*** N-Mi__ has quit IRC14:50
sicelo:)15:21
*** xorly has joined #maemo15:26
*** crazyguy` has joined #maemo15:30
*** N-Mi has joined #maemo15:54
*** N-Mi has joined #maemo15:54
*** sunshavi has joined #maemo16:00
*** Ras_Older has quit IRC16:07
*** buZz has quit IRC16:07
*** buZz has joined #maemo16:08
*** NeKit has quit IRC16:13
*** Ras_Older has joined #maemo16:14
*** spiiroin has quit IRC16:32
*** spiiroin has joined #maemo16:50
*** platicus1 has quit IRC17:18
*** platicus has joined #maemo17:25
*** cyteen has quit IRC17:26
*** xy2_ has joined #maemo17:26
*** platicus has quit IRC17:28
*** cyteen has joined #maemo17:30
*** N-Mi has quit IRC17:38
*** platicus has joined #maemo17:45
*** N-Mi has joined #maemo17:50
*** platicus has quit IRC17:51
DocScrutinizer0530 times is what I measured in my (arguably fsckup) repo config17:54
DocScrutinizer05actually IIRC it was >30, like 32 or somesuch17:54
DocScrutinizer05reduced loading time form 16 minutes to 30s IIRC17:54
DocScrutinizer05from*17:54
DocScrutinizer05of course when you get a loading time of only 2 minutes with old dog slow HAM, your overhead in runtime will spoil the speedup ratio17:55
DocScrutinizer05~factinfo speedyham17:58
infobotspeedyham -- created by DocScrutinizer05 <~saturn@openmoko/engineers/joerg> at Thu Mar 13 22:28:34 2014 (1154 days); last modified 5h 40m 50s ago  by sixwheeledbeast!~zem@2a01:4f8:c17:101::2; it has been requested 54 times, last by sixwheeledbeast, 5h 40m 31s ago.17:58
*** Oksana has quit IRC17:58
DocScrutinizer05~literal speedyham17:59
infobot"speedyham" is "30 times faster than HAM https://github.com/community-ssu/hildon-application-manager, now included in CSSU."17:59
DocScrutinizer05~listkeys speedyham18:00
infobotFactoid search of 'speedyham' by key (1): speedyham.18:00
*** Oksana has joined #maemo18:00
DocScrutinizer05~unforget speedyham18:00
infobotcannot undeleted 'speedyham' because it already exists!, DocScrutinizer0518:00
*** Pali has joined #maemo18:02
*** cyteen has quit IRC18:05
*** florian has quit IRC18:08
*** Pali has quit IRC18:13
*** vahe has joined #maemo18:27
*** crazyguy` has quit IRC18:33
*** crazyguy` has joined #maemo18:39
*** dmth|intevation has quit IRC18:43
*** florian has joined #maemo18:54
*** florian has joined #maemo18:54
*** esaym153 has quit IRC18:57
*** crazyguy` has quit IRC19:28
*** xorly has quit IRC19:30
freemangordonparazyd: Wizzup: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1527920&postcount=17319:36
freemangordonhow's amprolla going?19:36
*** platicus has joined #maemo19:45
Wizzupfreemangordon: sweet @ thread!19:48
Wizzupfreemangordon: it's ... going. I am going to work on it tonight and see if I can get done what parazyd asked me to finish19:48
WizzupI don't know how far we are from a working amprolla2 then, but I hope not far.19:49
*** xorly has joined #maemo19:59
Enrico_MenottiHello. Does anybody know where the X11 settings are, on Maemo?20:02
bencohin /etc/X11/ afaict20:03
*** Funnyface has quit IRC20:04
Enrico_MenottiThere's an xorg.conf there, but no settings for the touchscreen.20:05
WizzupEnrico_Menotti: we told you how to do it20:12
Wizzupon mainline20:12
Wizzupuse xinput to configure it20:12
WizzupI did it a couple of weeks ago on parazyd's device, or on my own, I do not recall20:12
Wizzupunless you want to use the tslib driver, then there's a tool to configure it20:13
Wizzupbut tslib is deprecated/dead20:13
Enrico_MenottiWizzup You mean the link at http://blog.rot13.org/2013/12/touch-screen-configuration-using-xinput.html?20:13
Enrico_MenottiThe problem is: 1. Settings are not permanent; 2. How to find the exact values for calibration?20:14
Wizzupyes. you can set all relevant callibration options using xinput20:14
Wizzupthere is a program to get those, I think shipped with xinput even20:14
Wizzupas for permanent, make a script and have it auto run20:15
Enrico_MenottiWell, I wanted to put settings in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20:15
Enrico_MenottiAnd for the calibration, I got settings heuristically.20:15
Enrico_MenottiNow I'd like to find the correct values.20:15
*** Pali has joined #maemo20:16
Wizzuphttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Calibrating_Touchscreen20:16
Wizzuphttp://blog.rot13.org/2013/12/touch-screen-configuration-using-xinput.html20:17
Enrico_MenottiRight now I'm booting Maemo. I went in /tmp. There's an Xorg.0.log. At the end, I find reported the "Calibration factors".20:17
Enrico_MenottiAre those?20:17
Enrico_Menotti(For the touchpad limits.)20:17
Wizzupthe blog post linked to you initially tells you to run evtest20:17
Wizzupand just note down the events20:17
Wizzupit literally tells you how to callibrate :)20:17
Wizzupmaemo values may be way off.20:17
Wizzupdifferent driver, 7year old kernel.20:17
Wizzuphttps://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/xinput_calibrator/20:18
*** Funnyface has joined #maemo20:18
Enrico_MenottiThis last link is very interesting. I will read over it.20:19
Enrico_MenottiThanks.20:19
Wizzup..20:21
WizzupI think the rot13 one is the most interesting one20:21
Wizzupit literally tells you how to do it20:21
Enrico_MenottiYes, it does. I already followed it yesterday, successfully. But I'm trying to calibrate precisely (well, if that's even possible...).20:22
*** xy2_ has quit IRC20:22
WizzupEnrico_Menotti: maemo callibrates it by having you press red buttons on the corner20:27
Enrico_MenottiAh. I never did it.20:28
Enrico_MenottiI re-flashed my N900, but after that only the locale, date and time setting screen appeared.20:29
*** N-Mi has quit IRC20:32
Enrico_MenottiWell, right now I tried by copying the settings from Maemo, and they're absolutely perfect. 172 3880 3780 235.20:36
*** xy2_ has joined #maemo20:37
*** cyteen has joined #maemo20:53
*** capitanocrunch has joined #maemo20:54
*** cyteen has quit IRC21:01
*** vahe has quit IRC21:04
*** capitanocrunch has quit IRC21:10
*** xorly has quit IRC21:50
*** crazyguy` has joined #maemo21:52
*** cyteen has joined #maemo22:13
*** pagurus has joined #maemo22:13
*** Kabouik has quit IRC22:14
*** eMHa__ has quit IRC22:19
*** eMHa__ has joined #maemo22:20
*** pagurus has joined #maemo22:24
*** esaym153 has joined #maemo22:28
*** SmilyOrg has quit IRC22:31
*** L29Ah has quit IRC22:39
*** crazyguy` has quit IRC22:44
Enrico_MenottiI have installed gtk2 over X over Devuan on the N900. Works. Nice demo. Interesting. :)23:05
sicelostill want to try android? ;)23:07
Enrico_MenottiWell, don't know, really.23:11
Wizzuprunning android on a n900 makes no sense23:11
*** shentey has joined #maemo23:22
*** Smily has joined #maemo23:25
Enrico_MenottiMaybe an Android in a box? Just to have access to apps...23:29
DocScrutinizer05why not a cray in a box?23:54
DocScrutinizer05TARDIS: a whole skyscraper in a phone booth23:54

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.15.1 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!