IRC log of #maemo for Thursday, 2017-05-11

Enrico_MenottiOk, after some reading, googling and trying, I inverted the y axis. Now up is up and down is down.00:16
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Enrico_MenottiAlso calibrated the screen (heuristically). Cool.00:38
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WikiwideA question: is Chromium in maemo repositories? If not, why - weren't patent disputes settled already?03:59
MaxdamantusI don't think it has to do with patent issues.04:08
MaxdamantusThere is a really old package somewhere that came from Debian.04:08
MaxdamantusAccording to the Debian mailing list, they removed that package at some point (from arm) because it was hard to compile and noone could be bothered maintaining it.04:09
WikiwideThere was a Council notice aeons ago that Nokia decided, to be on the safe side, to remove Chromium from repositories because of patents.
WikiwideAnd yes, being hard to compile is a reasonable explanation as to why it's not in the repositories atm.04:12
WikiwideAlso, since hildon-application-manager is in free repository... Does it get improvements with time? Because I don't want to use Qt-based Faster Application Manager.04:13
MaxdamantusWeird, didn't know about that incident.04:15
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sixwheeledbeastHAM has had updates as part of CSSU12:11
infobotSpeedyHAM is 30 times faster than HAM  SpeedyHAM is included in CSSU now12:11
sixwheeledbeastlistkeys speedyHAM12:15
sixwheeledbeast~listkeys speedyham12:15
infobotFactoid search of 'speedyham' by key (1): speedyham.12:15
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infobot[speedyham] 30 times faster than HAM, now included in CSSU.12:17
sixwheeledbeastI am not awake today...12:18
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siceloi don't know about 30 times13:42
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sixwheeledbeast*Disclaimer - results may vary14:00
sixwheeledbeastIt is considerably faster at most tasks14:01
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DocScrutinizer0530 times is what I measured in my (arguably fsckup) repo config17:54
DocScrutinizer05actually IIRC it was >30, like 32 or somesuch17:54
DocScrutinizer05reduced loading time form 16 minutes to 30s IIRC17:54
DocScrutinizer05of course when you get a loading time of only 2 minutes with old dog slow HAM, your overhead in runtime will spoil the speedup ratio17:55
DocScrutinizer05~factinfo speedyham17:58
infobotspeedyham -- created by DocScrutinizer05 <~saturn@openmoko/engineers/joerg> at Thu Mar 13 22:28:34 2014 (1154 days); last modified 5h 40m 50s ago  by sixwheeledbeast!~zem@2a01:4f8:c17:101::2; it has been requested 54 times, last by sixwheeledbeast, 5h 40m 31s ago.17:58
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DocScrutinizer05~literal speedyham17:59
infobot"speedyham" is "30 times faster than HAM, now included in CSSU."17:59
DocScrutinizer05~listkeys speedyham18:00
infobotFactoid search of 'speedyham' by key (1): speedyham.18:00
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DocScrutinizer05~unforget speedyham18:00
infobotcannot undeleted 'speedyham' because it already exists!, DocScrutinizer0518:00
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freemangordonparazyd: Wizzup:
freemangordonhow's amprolla going?19:36
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Wizzupfreemangordon: sweet @ thread!19:48
Wizzupfreemangordon: it's ... going. I am going to work on it tonight and see if I can get done what parazyd asked me to finish19:48
WizzupI don't know how far we are from a working amprolla2 then, but I hope not far.19:49
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Enrico_MenottiHello. Does anybody know where the X11 settings are, on Maemo?20:02
bencohin /etc/X11/ afaict20:03
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Enrico_MenottiThere's an xorg.conf there, but no settings for the touchscreen.20:05
WizzupEnrico_Menotti: we told you how to do it20:12
Wizzupon mainline20:12
Wizzupuse xinput to configure it20:12
WizzupI did it a couple of weeks ago on parazyd's device, or on my own, I do not recall20:12
Wizzupunless you want to use the tslib driver, then there's a tool to configure it20:13
Wizzupbut tslib is deprecated/dead20:13
Enrico_MenottiWizzup You mean the link at
Enrico_MenottiThe problem is: 1. Settings are not permanent; 2. How to find the exact values for calibration?20:14
Wizzupyes. you can set all relevant callibration options using xinput20:14
Wizzupthere is a program to get those, I think shipped with xinput even20:14
Wizzupas for permanent, make a script and have it auto run20:15
Enrico_MenottiWell, I wanted to put settings in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20:15
Enrico_MenottiAnd for the calibration, I got settings heuristically.20:15
Enrico_MenottiNow I'd like to find the correct values.20:15
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Enrico_MenottiRight now I'm booting Maemo. I went in /tmp. There's an Xorg.0.log. At the end, I find reported the "Calibration factors".20:17
Enrico_MenottiAre those?20:17
Enrico_Menotti(For the touchpad limits.)20:17
Wizzupthe blog post linked to you initially tells you to run evtest20:17
Wizzupand just note down the events20:17
Wizzupit literally tells you how to callibrate :)20:17
Wizzupmaemo values may be way off.20:17
Wizzupdifferent driver, 7year old kernel.20:17
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Enrico_MenottiThis last link is very interesting. I will read over it.20:19
WizzupI think the rot13 one is the most interesting one20:21
Wizzupit literally tells you how to do it20:21
Enrico_MenottiYes, it does. I already followed it yesterday, successfully. But I'm trying to calibrate precisely (well, if that's even possible...).20:22
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WizzupEnrico_Menotti: maemo callibrates it by having you press red buttons on the corner20:27
Enrico_MenottiAh. I never did it.20:28
Enrico_MenottiI re-flashed my N900, but after that only the locale, date and time setting screen appeared.20:29
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Enrico_MenottiWell, right now I tried by copying the settings from Maemo, and they're absolutely perfect. 172 3880 3780 235.20:36
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Enrico_MenottiI have installed gtk2 over X over Devuan on the N900. Works. Nice demo. Interesting. :)23:05
sicelostill want to try android? ;)23:07
Enrico_MenottiWell, don't know, really.23:11
Wizzuprunning android on a n900 makes no sense23:11
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Enrico_MenottiMaybe an Android in a box? Just to have access to apps...23:29
DocScrutinizer05why not a cray in a box?23:54
DocScrutinizer05TARDIS: a whole skyscraper in a phone booth23:54

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