ShadowReine | Anyone? | 00:00 |
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CosmoHill | .o/ | 00:01 |
CosmoHill | I run a support channel, I'm used to it | 00:01 |
CosmoHill | first question is normally "can I ask a question?{" | 00:02 |
ShadowReine | Does anyone here have any experience transferring files between a MeeGo netbook and a Mac? | 00:02 |
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lbt | ShadowReine: rule #1 : just ask the qestion | 00:02 |
CosmoHill | is the mac configured to share with windows clients? | 00:02 |
ShadowReine | Yes. | 00:02 |
CosmoHill | [22:02] <CosmoHill> q? | 00:02 |
CosmoHill | [22:02] <Sploosh> Dont ask to ask just ask! | 00:02 |
ShadowReine | And I can connect to the Mac. I can see my files. | 00:02 |
ShadowReine | But when I try to copy a file from the netbook to the Mac, it tells me 'Function not implemented'. | 00:03 |
ShadowReine | (I've actually spent longer trying to transfer the file than it took to create it at this point) | 00:03 |
CosmoHill | have you tried via the command line? | 00:03 |
ShadowReine | I have tried sftp. Then it doesn't seem capable of finding my file at all. | 00:04 |
ShadowReine | I am literally at 30 minutes and counting to transfer a 400 word text file. | 00:04 |
CosmoHill | with sftp did you type "pwd"? | 00:04 |
ShadowReine | Tells me No Such File Or Directory…when I am sure I have the file right. | 00:04 |
CosmoHill | try "cd /" | 00:04 |
ShadowReine | Okay. Is there a way to go up through commands in the MeeGo terminal? I don't want to have to type this entire long file name out for time #10…I didn't type pwd, no. I thought the person was talking about my password :P | 00:05 |
ShadowReine | (This is what happens when you've only used BSD in twenty years and then you don't do much at the command line) | 00:05 |
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ShadowReine | ^P doesn't work for command retrieval. | 00:06 |
CosmoHill | type "help" | 00:06 |
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ShadowReine | I'm in the correct remote working directory. But it seems that ~/Documents/name-of-file is not the right path for put. | 00:07 |
ShadowReine | (Which is why I want to use the GUI, dang it) | 00:08 |
CosmoHill | try cd /Users/you | 00:08 |
CosmoHill | then ls | 00:08 |
ShadowReine | I think I may have it. Can somebody please tell me if there is a way to retrieve the command I typed a few lines back that is not copying and pasting or typing it out again? | 00:09 |
ShadowReine | (Note to self: One word file names on the netbook forever) | 00:09 |
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CosmoHill | press up? | 00:09 |
ShadowReine | Doesn't work. | 00:09 |
ShadowReine | Neither up nor ^P work the way they should. | 00:10 |
ShadowReine | I'm this close to asking to borrow an ubuntu stick. I really am. | 00:10 |
CosmoHill | you're in the directory you want to download the files to | 00:11 |
ShadowReine | 'Cause I really, REALLY don't want to have to use a dropbox just to transfer files from one machine to another. | 00:11 |
CosmoHill | and you've sftp into your mac | 00:11 |
ShadowReine | I want to move file from Documents folder on netbook to a folder on the Mac. | 00:11 |
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ShadowReine | This should take 2 seconds. Not 30 minutes and counting. | 00:12 |
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CosmoHill | so you're in ~/Document on the netbook and sftp into the mac | 00:12 |
ShadowReine | I should be. Yes. | 00:12 |
CosmoHill | what did "pwd" return | 00:12 |
ShadowReine | I *really* don't want to type this file name out again. | 00:12 |
ShadowReine | The correct remote working directory. | 00:12 |
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CosmoHill | what does "put *" do? | 00:12 |
ShadowReine | 'No such file or directory' | 00:12 |
CosmoHill | lls | 00:13 |
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CosmoHill | (two Ls) | 00:13 |
ShadowReine | I now seem to be in Chinese mode. | 00:13 |
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ShadowReine | It's transliterating everything I say into Chinese. I want to throw it out the window. | 00:14 |
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ShadowReine | It's activated 'Smart Common Input Mode' presumably while I was trying to recover my old commands. | 00:14 |
ShadowReine | Anyone know how to kill that? | 00:15 |
ShadowReine | Okay. lls shows me as one level above Documents, but shouldn't ~/Documents/name of file have worked? | 00:16 |
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ShadowReine | NOW I am in Documents. | 00:17 |
CosmoHill | yay | 00:17 |
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ShadowReine | I worked out lcd on my own! (l I'm guessing is for local here). | 00:18 |
ShadowReine | It worked! | 00:18 |
CosmoHill | correct | 00:19 |
ShadowReine | Well, I learned something I didn't know, so the time wasn't wasted. I still wonder if I can fix the file browser, though. | 00:19 |
ShadowReine | I wonder if they properly tested it with Macs, as it seems to be set up only to use Windows networking protocols. Or maybe there's an app for it. | 00:21 |
CosmoHill | fyi all the intel guys (and gals) have macbook pros | 00:22 |
ShadowReine | Could be a Lion issue, too. | 00:22 |
CosmoHill | lions tend to object to people tranfering files onto them | 00:22 |
ShadowReine | *giggles* | 00:22 |
CosmoHill | and shaving words into their side, they don't like that either | 00:23 |
ShadowReine | Horses don't mind, though. | 00:23 |
ShadowReine | Anyway…thanks, guys. | 00:24 |
CosmoHill | you're welcome :) | 00:24 |
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ShadowReine | I do have a tendency to find every bug in existence. | 00:25 |
jedix | yeah, I'm hitting this issue and dunno how they fixed it: http://www.spinics.net/lists/netfilter-devel/msg19346.html | 00:25 |
ShadowReine | No offense, but…WHOOSH! | 00:26 |
CosmoHill | ShadowReine: join CLFS and file away | 00:26 |
CosmoHill | I'll either fix them or swear at you | 00:26 |
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ShadowReine | CLFS? | 00:26 |
CosmoHill | Cross Linux From Scratch | 00:27 |
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ShadowReine | Why cross? | 00:28 |
ShadowReine | (LIke I said. Twenty years. Only thing I've played with is Apple's version of BSD) | 00:28 |
CosmoHill | from one arch to another | 00:28 |
CosmoHill | you mean Darwin? | 00:28 |
ShadowReine | I think so. Whatever they underly OS X with. | 00:30 |
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ShadowReine | I manage to wrangle it well enough to maintain a local wiki. | 00:32 |
CosmoHill | I believe it's a carpet made from the hair of fanboys | 00:32 |
ShadowReine | Hey! | 00:32 |
ShadowReine | It's better than Windoze! | 00:32 |
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pdanek | hello folks | 00:41 |
CosmoHill | hello folk | 00:42 |
pdanek | I have a question, what is the current state of MeeGo project? 90% of internet portals mentiones things like: MeeGo is dead... etc. | 00:42 |
pdanek | however, I can still see there is still some roadmap,meego 1.3 was released etc. | 00:42 |
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pdanek | does it mean, that MeeGo itself isn't really dead, still actively developed by a community, just Intel/Nokia donating is out? | 00:43 |
pdanek | per example: meego.com is going to be updated still, or this portal is dead by now? :) | 00:43 |
ShadowReine | *looks at her brand new netbook with MeeGo preinstalled* | 00:44 |
ShadowReine | Asus appears to be supporting the project even if nobody else is. | 00:44 |
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CosmoHill | anyone know rjohnson19? | 01:56 |
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pdanek | http://apps-beta.meego.com/basecategories/meego/1.2/handset/ | 02:09 |
pdanek | Sorry, it looks like our servers are having trouble! | 02:09 |
pdanek | Please try your request again or use the links below to report the issue. | 02:09 |
pdanek | is this normal behavior, like not in working state currently? | 02:09 |
pdanek | or temporary issue? | 02:09 |
CosmoHill | anyone heard of <bim_ir>? | 02:15 |
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vadimq | Hi, I'm a bit confused, what is going on with meego/tizen? Is meego continuing or the post about making it easier to migrate means people are supposed to move over to tizen? | 11:26 |
lbt | vadimq: such is the situation with closed governance models. | 11:27 |
vadimq | so is there a plan to fork or anything like that? I'm looking at the N9 and aren't that happy with the Aegis thing. What I'd like to see is a fully open OS that can be just flashed, even if nobody officially ships it. Is there anything like that? | 11:30 |
Stskeeps | vadimq: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N950 may be of interest | 11:30 |
Stskeeps | vadimq: some of us have started http://www.merproject.org - we hope to collaborate with Tizen | 11:31 |
vadimq | yes, that looks interesting, unfortunately the N950 is impossible to buy I think? | 11:31 |
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Stskeeps | same thing kinda works for N9 too : | 11:32 |
Stskeeps | P | 11:32 |
Stskeeps | http://jon.severinsson.net/N9CE/ | 11:33 |
Stskeeps | though kinda hardcore | 11:33 |
vadimq | hmm, what's "the primary customers of the platform are device vendors - not end-users" supposed to mean? | 11:33 |
Stskeeps | vadimq: http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-dev/2011-October/484281.html | 11:33 |
Stskeeps | vadimq: Nemo/Community Edition would base upon Mer and do the UX side of things | 11:33 |
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vadimq | hmm that is interesting, though I do agree with the people saying that it looks to be a difficult proposition. For end users it's not interesting, and I'm not sure it's all that great even for companies | 11:39 |
Stskeeps | let's see how things turn out | 11:42 |
lbt | it's not interesting for end-users who want a shiny toy to play with or develop on :) ....it's rather more interesting if they have devices they want to hack and then they want to grow into SMEs | 11:43 |
Stskeeps | it's a kind of radical proposition, but we've seen projects fail while trying to build entire bottom to top projects, and let's see if we can make a solid puzzle piece for others to build upon | 11:44 |
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vadimq | how do you properly test it without having something built on top? | 11:47 |
Stskeeps | vadimq: oh, we don't say there isn't something built on top :) | 11:47 |
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vadimq | ah, what will it be? | 11:48 |
Stskeeps | vadimq: but everyone feeds back the same way and interacts with the core and it's deliverables, we'll deliver tools and QA methods for people to help things with - the idea is the core is always releasable and QA'ed | 11:48 |
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Stskeeps | vadimq: we're starting with plasma active, the Nemo/community edition project and a small bunch of hardware adaptations | 11:49 |
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Stskeeps | vadimq: these are outside the project, but deliver input regarding problems to the core project | 11:49 |
lbt | vadimq: the QA question is a good one - and I think it's fair to say we don't have a complete answer | 11:49 |
lbt | MeeGo built up some QA and we'll be reusing them wherever we can | 11:50 |
lbt | vadimq: also bear in mind that when Nokia were first involved they released a lot of tools and processes to the community based on their productisation of Maemo for all their devices | 11:51 |
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dneary | lbt, I think I have mostly sorted out my DNS knowledge, by the way | 11:52 |
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dneary | Thjanks for your help, you were great | 11:52 |
lbt | dneary: OK - good - np | 11:52 |
dneary | Right now, the only question I have left is how to add a glue record to my registrar | 11:52 |
lbt | email them | 11:53 |
dneary | They won't let me set ns.neary-consulting.com as a primary nameserver because it doesn't resolve | 11:53 |
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dneary | I do have a slave | 11:53 |
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lbt | hehe - the bootstrap issue? | 11:53 |
dneary | lbt, Verio are pretty shit | 11:53 |
lbt | oh, trust me, 1&1 are worse | 11:53 |
dneary | I emailed them yesterday and got a reply "to change the nameservers for domain, follow these steps:" | 11:53 |
dneary | With a FAQ entry C&P into the mail | 11:54 |
dneary | grrr | 11:54 |
dneary | I hate people who don't understand the question | 11:54 |
dneary | And then insist on answering what they insist is the question you *really* wanted to ask | 11:54 |
lbt | http://pastie.org/2734235 | 11:54 |
vadimq | lbt, Stskeeps: aha, interesting | 11:55 |
lbt | vadimq: why the interest BTW? | 11:56 |
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dneary | So - just to be sure I absolutely understand what's going on | 11:56 |
dneary | On the .com GTLDs, I need to have the following added somewhere (where?): | 11:57 |
dneary | neary-consulting.com. IN NS ns.neary-consulting.com. | 11:57 |
dneary | ns.neary-consulting.com. IN A 212.85.155.26 | 11:58 |
dneary | Is that correct? That's a glue record, right? | 11:58 |
lbt | I can't say how they permit that | 11:58 |
vadimq | lbt: Well I'm almost certainly going to code something, just trying to decide on what. I like open systems. So iphone is out, windows is out, and Android seems way too weird for my liking. I figure the N9 line is probably a deadend. So my idea would be to find some open firmware to flash and work with that | 11:58 |
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lbt | bbiab | 12:00 |
Stskeeps | vadimq: good news is that meego for n950/n9 is already fairly far along then | 12:00 |
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CosmoHill | morning | 12:02 |
brik | morn | 12:06 |
CosmoHill | hey brik | 12:08 |
CosmoHill | how are you? | 12:08 |
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brik | not bad, yourself? | 12:11 |
CosmoHill | I'm okay, just need to figure out which direction to point my life in and then actually go for it | 12:11 |
SpeedEvil | Spinward! | 12:12 |
brik | sounds like effort | 12:13 |
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CosmoHill | atm I live at home with my parents and no job | 12:13 |
Stskeeps | first step is to get your own place | 12:14 |
Stskeeps | : | 12:14 |
Stskeeps | P | 12:14 |
hiemanshu | or find a gal and move in with her | 12:14 |
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SpeedEvil | Or a guy. | 12:21 |
SpeedEvil | Or an otter. | 12:21 |
panv | Hi... is there a way to install meego on a sonyericsson xperia X2 ?? please ? | 12:21 |
CosmoHill | otter? | 12:21 |
CosmoHill | panv: are you a developer? | 12:21 |
panv | no.. CosmoHill but i can do some programming if required !! | 12:22 |
CosmoHill | it won't be easy | 12:23 |
panv | I am ready to try my luck | 12:23 |
panv | :) with some help... | 12:23 |
panv | I just need a little guidance... | 12:24 |
SpeedEvil | The zeroth step is - is there a linux kernel on the device, and can you flash arbitrary code on it. | 12:24 |
CosmoHill | people have got it on a Sony Ericsson Snowball | 12:24 |
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SpeedEvil | Are all the devices supported by kernel mode drivers. | 12:24 |
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panv | so, what should i do ? | 12:25 |
panv | I have an xperia x2, which is stuck for a bug in windowsmobile, and i cannot use it.. | 12:25 |
panv | i am looking for another OS... coz i cannot get support from SE where i got it. | 12:25 |
SpeedEvil | See above. | 12:25 |
panv | anyway, their support sux | 12:25 |
SpeedEvil | Does it boot linux, and does the kernel have all drivers. | 12:26 |
panv | I don't know if it boots linux | 12:26 |
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panv | it's just a windows phone | 12:27 |
SpeedEvil | First, you need to find out that. | 12:27 |
panv | how should i do that ?? | 12:27 |
SpeedEvil | Find out if someone has gotten it booting. | 12:27 |
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SpeedEvil | Otherwise, it's at least several dozen to several thousand hours getting linux up and booting on the device. | 12:27 |
SpeedEvil | For someone skilled. | 12:27 |
SpeedEvil | Once linux is up and running on the device, with all drivers suported, then it's 'just' a matter of hardware adaptation of one of the available images. | 12:28 |
SpeedEvil | Sorting out screen resolutions, and what happens with hardware buttons. | 12:28 |
panv | so, first of all i should see if linux can boot | 12:29 |
panv | can you guide me for that please ? | 12:29 |
SpeedEvil | See above. | 12:29 |
panv | ok | 12:29 |
SpeedEvil | Google it. See if anyones got it booting. | 12:29 |
panv | thanks SpeedEvil | 12:29 |
Stskeeps | it has a MSM chipset and ARMv6, meego won't boot there | 12:29 |
SpeedEvil | But practically, it's going to be a _LOT_ of work. | 12:29 |
panv | Stskeeps, do you have an alternative to my problem ? | 12:30 |
panv | the phone is unusable at the moment | 12:30 |
SpeedEvil | Get a new phone. | 12:30 |
SpeedEvil | Ebay the old one. | 12:30 |
panv | :) | 12:30 |
panv | i wont sell a bad phone.. | 12:30 |
SpeedEvil | Sell it accurately described. | 12:30 |
SpeedEvil | It's still of use for people wanting to swap the screen out. | 12:31 |
panv | what if i wanted to fix it !! i like challenges ! | 12:31 |
Myrtti | see what Stskeeps said | 12:32 |
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SpeedEvil | Well - work out what's wrong with it, and how to re-flash windows ontoit. | 12:32 |
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panv | Myrtti, i saw what Stskeeps said, and i asked for alternatives.. | 12:33 |
Stskeeps | get a linux kernel booting first, then worry about OS | 12:33 |
panv | SpeedEvil, the problem is in the alignment of the screen | 12:33 |
panv | it's stuck there... and many people faced the same problem | 12:33 |
panv | and nobody could solve it (at least they didn't post the solution) | 12:33 |
panv | i hate to lose that hardware.. | 12:33 |
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Stskeeps | it's a 2009 model | 12:34 |
Stskeeps | : | 12:34 |
Stskeeps | P | 12:34 |
panv | ya.. but i sweat for my money as well :):) | 12:34 |
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SpeedEvil | panv: then you can possibly replace the screen, or digitiser, if it's seperate, and it's fixed. | 12:35 |
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panv | anyway.... I will see what to do... | 12:36 |
panv | coz another problem is , i don't like the OS... | 12:36 |
panv | it's slow | 12:36 |
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CosmoHill | I came into my office yesterday to find that not only had the people removed the desks they were told to | 12:49 |
CosmoHill | but they have unplugged my cluster and moved the head node too | 12:50 |
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CosmoHill | http://cross-lfs.org/~cosmo/cc/compact-cluster.jpg tada! | 13:07 |
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CosmoHill | how bad is it to completely drain a UPS battery? | 13:33 |
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dneary | lbt, In the end it was too painful to get a parent to include a glue record for my domain & 24 hour lag is getting boring | 18:24 |
dneary | I've gone with another DNS provider (afraid.org) who do free hosting | 18:24 |
dneary | Hopefully that'll work out | 18:24 |
dneary | DNS changes need to propagate | 18:25 |
dneary | And Verio still shows the old ones as definitive in my dashboard (wtf) | 18:25 |
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dneary | "The name server redelegation for neary-consulting.com has been updated. Please allow 24 to 48 hours for the name server changes to take effect." | 18:26 |
dneary | Sucks | 18:26 |
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npm | another market for mer/meego/meletemi/etc? http://shop.delorme.com/OA_HTML/DELibeCCtpSctDspRte.jsp?section=10820&minisite=10020 | 18:37 |
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Stskeeps | i was pondering digital signage if everything goes tits up | 18:38 |
npm | heh | 18:38 |
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npm | i dunno, that device looks pretty high tech, and how long before it's expected equipent on any vehicle | 18:39 |
slaine | dneary: I've found in practice that it never takes more than a couple of hours | 18:40 |
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dneary | slaine, When Verio says 24-48 they probably manage to mess it up somehow :) | 18:44 |
slaine | hehe | 18:44 |
araujo | Stskeeps, repo --name=ce-adaptation-n900 --baseurl=http://repo.pub.meego.com//home:/stskeeps:/mer:/hw:/n900/CE_Mer_Core_armv7hl | 18:44 |
araujo | main repo ^^ ? | 18:44 |
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Stskeeps | araujo: hack ;) | 18:47 |
Stskeeps | araujo: | 18:47 |
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araujo | :) | 18:49 |
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gandhijee | arfoll_: i have no idea to be honest, i am working on some stuff for this company called aminocom | 20:24 |
gandhijee | and they keep asking me about PR24/25 and i have no idea what it is, nor does my intel FAE | 20:24 |
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csdb | what did sysklogd get replaced with in Trunk ? | 21:09 |
csdb | it's in obs up to MeeGo:1.2 but not in Trunk | 21:10 |
Stskeeps | systemd i think handles it now, if i'm not wrong | 21:10 |
csdb | ah ok | 21:10 |
csdb | Also, https://build.meego.com says: | 21:11 |
csdb | The server's security certificate is revoked! | 21:11 |
csdb | http://build.meego.com works fine | 21:11 |
Stskeeps | yeah, i'm not sure why that is | 21:12 |
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csdb | I guess the https:// port should be shut down if the certificate isn't going to be renewed... | 21:12 |
Stskeeps | i only use that place as an information source these days since Trunk is pretty much shut down | 21:12 |
csdb | I've noticed... We sync our obs with Trunk on a weekly basis and I think we've gotten all of 3 or 4 pkg updates over the last few weeks | 21:13 |
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Stskeeps | :nod: | 21:13 |
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jedix | Requires: libEGL-devel | 21:17 |
jedix | is there a pkgconfig way of doig that? | 21:17 |
jedix | or should I change it to mesa-libEGL-devel? | 21:17 |
Stskeeps | pkgconfig(egl) ? | 21:18 |
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jedix | will that work for -devel? | 21:19 |
Stskeeps | it is -devel it's fetching | 21:19 |
Stskeeps | pkgconfig will always get you the -devel | 21:19 |
jedix | oh, cool | 21:19 |
csdb | shouldn't that be BuildRequires? | 21:19 |
jedix | this is the qt package libtqopengl-devel | 21:20 |
jedix | libqtopengl-devel | 21:20 |
csdb | ah | 21:20 |
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jedix | does that make it okay? | 21:20 |
jedix | shouldn't it still be a pkgconfig line? | 21:21 |
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csdb | you can run "rpm -qp --provides libEGL-devel.rpm" to see what the pkgconfig string is | 21:21 |
Stskeeps | jedix: it's a little too late for me on a friday, but i seem to remember there's something awkward about that particular line :) | 21:22 |
Stskeeps | can't recall what though | 21:22 |
Stskeeps | let me know when it fails/if it does :P | 21:22 |
jedix | will do | 21:22 |
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jedix | I think mesa-libEGL-devel will provide mesa-libEGL-devel, not libEGL-devel | 21:23 |
jedix | damn. | 21:23 |
jedix | oh, no.. | 21:24 |
jedix | pkgconfig(egl) = 7.11.0 | 21:24 |
jedix | mesa-libEGL-devel = 7.11-14.1 | 21:24 |
jedix | mesa-libEGL-devel(x86-32) = 7.11-14.1 | 21:24 |
Stskeeps | pkgconfig will do the right thing | 21:25 |
jedix | you have more faith than I do. | 21:25 |
Stskeeps | that, or stupidity | 21:25 |
jedix | I expect a new and exciting way of failure | 21:25 |
Stskeeps | on occasion i'm pondering which is driving me the most | 21:25 |
Stskeeps | :P | 21:25 |
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jedix | since it's the qt package, I expect the failure to occur sometime sunday night | 21:28 |
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vanadis__ | oh hai | 22:10 |
Stskeeps | lo | 22:10 |
vanadis__ | When adding a twitter-account on my N9, i get an error-message | 22:10 |
vanadis__ | Connection to twitter can not be established | 22:11 |
vanadis__ | anyone knows something about that? | 22:11 |
CosmoHill | your internet is working right? | 22:11 |
vanadis__ | yes it is | 22:11 |
CosmoHill | is twitter working? | 22:11 |
vanadis__ | yes it is | 22:11 |
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CosmoHill | I'm out of ideas | 22:12 |
vanadis__ | great | 22:12 |
CosmoHill | Stskeeps: tag | 22:12 |
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vanadis__ | well, probably going to take a look a the systemlogs | 22:12 |
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vanadis__ | else i go back to my n900 <3 | 22:12 |
Stskeeps | vanadis__: try on 3g | 22:13 |
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vanadis__ | Stskeeps, tried on 3G and on two different Wlans | 22:13 |
Stskeeps | vanadis__: hmm | 22:13 |
vanadis__ | where is the twitter-account stored? | 22:14 |
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mgedmin | for the record, twitter works fine on my n9 | 22:18 |
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vanadis__ | mgedmin, kthx | 22:19 |
vanadis__ | still no way to reflash the device? | 22:19 |
mgedmin | one-click flasher with latest n950 firmware is "coming out soon", last I heard | 22:22 |
vanadis__ | lol | 22:22 |
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