IRC log of #meego for Thursday, 2011-10-20

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berndhsCosmoHill: i say its a hardware issue00:09
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CosmoHillthoguth so00:10
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gandhijee_arfoll, do you know what PR24/PR25 might be?00:20
gandhijee_someone suggested i asked i you00:20
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arfollgandhijee: are you talking about CE4100 linux? they usually get called PR - pre release and then a version00:23
arfollmeego tv for example is based on PR2100:23
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TSCHAKeeearfoll: there was actually a meego-tv build?00:42
dm8tbrI thought intel had abandoned TV, IVI etc last week. there was some blurb somewhere.00:43
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CosmoHillhey javispedro00:47
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javispedrohi there00:48
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CosmoHillany UPS recomendations?00:54
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javispedronever had one =)00:55
wmarone__APC has done well for me over the years00:55
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wmarone__and apcupsd supports the USB models00:56
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CosmoHillmy cheap one has decided that life is to much and has moved on00:56
arfollTSCHAKeee: yes there are meego tv 1.2 builds for CE410000:56
TSCHAKeeeinteresting.00:56
arfollhowever as to intel abandoning stuff I have no idea. i only saw they shut down some division, but i believe theres more than one division...00:57
TSCHAKeeearfoll: what CE4100 board sould I get?00:57
TSCHAKeeehmm00:57
arfollTSCHAKeee: theres two CE4100 dev boards with meego, one from cocom and one from videon central00:58
TSCHAKeeeah yes, i've seen the videon boaed00:58
TSCHAKeeeboard.00:58
arfollwell the one from videon central comes from tatung, just resold through videon00:58
arfollthe cocom board is cheaper and has the better CE4170 board so i'd go for that one tbh00:59
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TSCHAKeeeok00:59
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TSCHAKeeehmm, got a link?01:00
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arfollTSCHAKeee: http://shop.cc-e.eu/epages/es139691.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/es139691/Products/DP0701:01
TSCHAKeeethanks. i wonder why that isn't showing up on google01:01
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CosmoHillwmarone__: it would be great if the UPS could turn the server off for me01:12
CosmoHillI think I have hibinate working on it but I'm not sure01:12
wmarone__CosmoHill: the APC software will do it, I don't know if apcupsd will01:14
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CosmoHillhmm, my current one beeps at you, that is all01:20
wmarone__hm01:21
CosmoHillwell actually it suddenly turned off yesterday morning even tho there was no powercut01:21
wmarone__yikes01:22
wmarone__my old UPS was doing that too, but it was ~5 years old or so01:23
CosmoHillmine is about 4 years01:24
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wmarone__apc back-ups ns 1250 lc01:26
wmarone__and apcupsd is so wonderfully light weight01:26
* CosmoHill attaches a fan directly to the UPS battery01:28
CosmoHillif this broke in the summer I'd be loving this01:28
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CosmoHillhttp://networkupstools.org/stable-hcl.html01:47
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CosmoHillcyas02:30
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rncbchi all02:33
rncbci need some help here :) my n950 got stuck in flight mode while doing device update today02:35
rncbcnow my n950 always starts in flight mode. does anybody had the same problem?02:37
SpeedEvilDoes it ever switch to normal mode?02:37
SpeedEvilCna you do wifi?02:37
SpeedEvilOr bluetoth?02:37
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rncbci can only get to 3g network (emergency call)02:38
rncbcits stuck to enter flight mode security code which i don't have coz i never turned flight mode on02:39
rncbcbefore. do you know the default/factory security code?02:39
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rncbci can i get rid of this flight mode state. switching off the n950 doesn't help. i gets back in flight mode whenever it reboots02:42
rncbchow can i*02:42
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DocScrutinizerhmm, sounds pretty much like a question specific for #harmattan02:43
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connor__My N9 manage to brick itself after updating some devel packages (mad skillz, aye?), been through Nokia support stuff without any improvement, so I now want to confirm that there's no way for me to recover the stuff that I haven't backed up. Thanks in advance for any help =)09:33
Stskeepsconnor__: did you use a lock code?09:34
connor__No locking of any sort used.09:35
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meegomyhello11:05
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hiemanshuhey11:06
meegomywhat is the ssh root@localhost root@localhost for n950?11:08
meegomy#join #harmattan11:09
the-bossmeegomy: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.11:09
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hiemanshumeegomy: its /join11:11
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Nimesh_Accenturehas anyone succesfully used gbis-cxx on meego?13:16
Nimesh_Accenturehas anyone succesfully used dbus-cxx on meego?13:17
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X-FadeJaffa: ping?15:52
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JaffaX-Fade: pong16:42
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Tujuhi, got firmware upgrade today for 950, for some reason it wont start anymore :)16:57
Stskeeps#harmattan16:57
the-bossStskeeps: Error: "harmattan" is not a valid command.16:57
iekku:D16:57
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dnearyHi17:54
dnearyslaine, Ping?17:54
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lbtAard: ping ... do you know anyone who could slave dneary's DNS ;)18:09
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dnearyAard, lbt: Thanks :)18:16
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pietro___this channel is deaddddd18:33
Stskeepsmm18:33
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pietro___i want to start to develop for meego18:34
pietro___!!18:34
Stskeepsyou're still able to18:35
Stskeeps:P18:35
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pietro___yep but i need a lot of help18:35
pietro___what programming lang i should know?18:35
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berndhseverythings is there, SDK, OBS, documentation, lots of stuff18:36
slainedneary: ack18:37
pietro___and can i install me ego on a android device?18:37
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sam2011\j #git19:20
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Aylahi.19:57
AylaI came here yesterday because of a problem with WiFi not working on an Atheros chip19:58
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Aylanow it starts to work as soon as I launch the command "rfkill unlock all" as root19:58
AylaI tested it on a hotspot19:59
Aylahowever, the PC won't detect the wifi connection my desktop PC shares19:59
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Aylais there a way to get Meego to connect to ad-hoc networks?19:59
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Aylaah, it's on the TODO list. My bad20:04
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jedixAnyone know why my new kernel and header cause failures due to "userspace headers"?  I think I need an updated package of some sort to work with a newer kernel but I'm having issues tracking down what one.20:20
Stskeepsdid you update kernel-headers package?20:20
jedixyeah20:20
jedixby doing a  make headers_install ARCH=i386 INSTALL_HDR_PATH=copyover20:20
jedixand then copying over the path ot the tar..20:21
Stskeepsmmkay20:21
jedixhehe20:21
jedixthe error is always the same..20:21
jedixIn file included from /usr/include/asm/sigcontext.h:5:0,20:21
jedix                 from /usr/include/bits/sigcontext.h:28,20:21
jedix                 from /usr/include/signal.h:339,20:21
jedixbut the lsat line.. which includes the signal.h is different in different packages.20:21
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jedixmaybe I didn't make a santized header?20:22
jedixas seen here: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.security.firewalls.netfilter.devel/4001020:22
jedixbut he doesn't say how he did it20:23
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CosmoHillany photographers in here?21:40
awallin_CosmoHill: define 'photographer' (is owning 2dslrs and some L-glass enough...)21:42
CosmoHillI duno what an L-glass is, so yes21:43
CosmoHillI've got a Nikon D70 but have been offered a Nikon 310021:45
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lbtawallin_: snob21:52
awallin_yeah :) and now I'm sitting here snobbing with my new N9/64Gb...21:52
lbtno fair!21:53
lbtalthough the lenses on that are superb I hear21:53
awallin_anyone develop for N9 here?21:53
lbttry #harmattan for that21:53
awallin_oh, ok.21:53
lbtalthough there's a lot of cross talk21:53
lbtthat place is more dev focused21:54
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CosmoHillawallin_: what DLSRs do you have?21:56
awallin_CosmoHill: an old 20D and a newer 500D. canon.21:57
CosmoHillI have a Nikon F801 and D7021:57
CosmoHillwait, the F801 is 35mm21:58
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Aylahi again22:21
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AylaI'm having another weird issue with MeeGo22:21
Aylait recognizes only 866MB of RAM while I do have 1.5GB installed22:22
CosmoHillis it the large companies leaving it?22:22
CosmoHilloh that, MeeGo is limited to 1GB of RAM22:22
Aylawhaaat22:22
Aylahow comes?22:22
CosmoHillhigh mem isn't enabled in the kernel22:22
Aylahmm22:23
Aylathere's a clear reason why it's not enabled?22:23
CosmoHillperformace reasons related to netbooks22:23
CosmoHillyou can install the development tools and compile your own kernel22:23
AylaI don't get it, shouldn't performance be better with more RAM?22:24
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CosmoHillif you're using a 1.3Ghz single core with 1GB of RAM you will be better off without high mem22:24
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Aylahmm22:25
Aylathat's… strange22:25
berndhshas to do with the x86 addressing modes22:26
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Aylaanyway. Kudos for the distribution, I installed it yesterday to replace a Ubuntu system on my aspire one, and I'm quite impressed22:27
Aylait's near what I always wanted to have on my netbook22:27
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ShadowReineI hate to come in and do this right away, but I need help.23:57
ShadowReine(Rather urgently, if anyone's actually here)23:58
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