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jedixI got it going00:24
jedixbut glibc isn't rebuilding00:24
jedixand I can't click "rebuild" when I look at the failure..00:24
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CosmoHillremind me not to leave things out when I go out drinking01:05
CosmoHillcos I came home drunk and went "I wonder what happens when I touch both terminals on this UPS battery"01:05
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ShadowJKheh01:08
ShadowJK48V pack?01:08
CosmoHill12v01:08
CosmoHillI say wonder, I just sat down at my desk, looked at it and poked it01:09
ShadowJKwell that shouldn't do anything01:09
ShadowJKunless you have open wounds on your  hands01:09
CosmoHillit didn't01:09
lbttry a screwdriver...01:10
lbtthat sure as hell will01:10
CosmoHillvodka and orange juice?01:10
lbtyeah ... gets it really sticky01:10
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berndhsit's not the volts, it's the amps01:12
DocScrutinizer9V-blocks come with no special warnings. Should tell enough about hazard of touching low voltage things (< 50V)01:12
CosmoHillsays leave out of reach of children on the side01:13
CosmoHillbut you have to take the UPS apart to see it01:13
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DocScrutinizerberndhs: somehow you're right, but as we all know R=U/I you can't have one without the other01:14
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DocScrutinizerand human body could get standardized as a resistor 10k Ohm 0.1W01:15
berndhsactually what it comes down to is the Coulombs I think01:15
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ShadowJKIf you had some electrodes stabbed through your chest 9V is quite enough :)01:16
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berndhstrue, just like real estate, location can be important01:16
ShadowJKwell also blood and nerves conduct much better than skin01:17
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DocScrutinizeractually common story is 10kR, 0.25W01:22
DocScrutinizernot considering special shunts with electrodes mounted inside ;-D01:22
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CosmoHillmy new server makes a different sound >.<02:44
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xxzzhi, I am thinking of installing MeeGO on LG Fathom VS750, windows smartphone, is it possible05:52
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mcfriskQ: how to build against MeeGo:1.2.0 repository on public OBS?14:21
X-Fademcfrisk: You can't at this moment. It is broken.14:21
mcfriskI see :)14:22
X-FadeImport from core obs hasn't been finished properly.14:22
mcfriskcan I create a link project on my own, I guess the linkin works14:22
X-FadeWe removed the link14:23
X-FadeAs core obs is so fubar that it pulled cobs down with it.14:23
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mcfriskwe've done our share of meego baseline imports, should be easy :)14:24
X-FadeYeah, just need time.14:24
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xxzzhi, I am thinking of installing MeeGO on LG Fathom VS750, windows smartphone, is it possible14:28
xxzzphone specs - http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_fathom-3356.php14:28
X-Fadexxzz: short answer: no14:29
xxzzokay14:29
xxzzty14:29
X-Fadexxzz: if you have a lot of time, then maybe ..14:30
xxzzX-Fade, yeah ample time14:30
X-FadeAnd knowledge? :)14:30
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xxzzyeah14:30
xxzzthat too14:30
xxzzI have cross compiled Linux14:31
xxzzboot 34 OS on my box14:31
X-Fadexxzz: Hop over to #meego-arm if you want to, but be warned. It is not easy and that is very likely to be an understatement :)14:33
xxzzthis is my first time messing around with phones, are there any resources available14:33
xxzzit still uses Linux kernel right14:33
antymatX-Fade - as mcfrisk said - we have imported the baselines to our OBSes quite a few times. We are happy to share the info; just say how.14:35
X-Fadeantymat: yeah, we just wanted to copypac everything over so we have some more context.14:36
X-Fadeantymat: But core keeps flapping and we have other things to do :)14:36
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antymatX-Fade - OK, we have not put the srpms; we have just used the rpms imported to the project. The srpm-s - we did it once or twice, but we abandoned the attempts as this is not what we wanted. The nasty thing is - we needed to be roots on the OBS machine.14:40
antymatX-Fade - it was however enough for us to have a baseline to build against, so we were happy :).14:40
X-Fadeantymat: Yeah, and binary imports are kind of hidden in the interface.14:40
X-Fadeantymat: Which makes them not very optimal.14:41
mcfriskbut binary import is pretty fast..14:41
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X-FadeYeah, well copypacs are usually too. If the other side is a reliable :)14:42
mcfriskapparently only admin can create link projects in public OBS, yes I tried..14:42
X-FadeBut it is just lower priority atm.14:42
X-FadeAs we are suppporting project which are very much more alive.14:43
antymatX-Fade - we did it the work-around way, with direct modification of structures on the OBS machine and creating a shell project for it.14:43
antymatX-Fade - where in the interface are binary imports?14:44
X-Fadeantymat: The show as regular projects, but without packages in them.14:44
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dnearyHi Any DNS kings around?16:01
lbtkinda16:01
lbtfor meego ?16:01
dnearylbt, Can a CNAME entry point to a host outside the $ORIGIN domain?16:01
lbtyes16:02
dnearylbt, I thought that was kind of the point16:02
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dnearylbt, But my domain service (via a web interface) is rejecting some lines. I can't see the typo, but there must be one...16:02
dnearywebmail.neary-consulting.com.  86400 IN CNAME webmail.neary-consulting.com.alinto.com.16:03
lbtFYI ... videos.meego.com is videos  1H              IN      CNAME d1umdl48yr4t0k.cloudfront.net.16:03
dnearyThat's one sample line getting rejected as a bad record16:03
X-Fadedneary: It is.16:03
dnearyX-Fade, Why?16:03
X-Fadedneary: only webmail in the first host.16:03
X-Fadedneary: Don't use full domain.16:03
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dnearyX-Fade, As far as I can tell, it shouldn't make a difference - the ORIGIN gets added16:05
dnearyIt's the DNS server who is adding that extra bit16:05
X-Fadedneary: Yes, when you view it. But in your zone file, you don't.16:05
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dnearyI'm thinking that maybe I need to manage DNS services myself - but I am not sure how to transfer management of a host from one place to another16:06
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dnearyIf I remove the . from the end of the line (the alinto.com bit) it's accepted, and the host points at webmail.neary-consulting.com.alinto.com.neary-consulting.com :(16:08
dnearyverio sucks16:08
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dnearySo what do I need to do to have my own bind manage the domain?16:09
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dnearyIsn't there something about needing another name server point to me as the definitive NS for the domain?16:10
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CosmoHillI just benchmakred my server17:46
CosmoHillbased on the test alone you'd think it was done in 2001 >.<17:47
berndhsearly 2001 wasn't that bad17:50
CosmoHillbest school year, only one in highschool without exams at the end17:51
jedixHow to I get link'ed packages to rebuild?  when I go into the failures there is no rebuild button17:52
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CosmoHilljedix: what's the URL?17:57
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jedixCosmoHill: it's a local obs18:01
Stskeepsjedix: osc rebuild18:01
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jedixthat worked18:03
jedixthanks!18:03
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gandhijee_arfoll, ping18:21
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nand__for your eyes only, 2nd update for N9* meego harmattan available, have fun with hacking while waiting for any info on tizen ;)  http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Blogs/blog/n9-developer/2011/10/19/n950-software-update-available-over-the-air18:23
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TSCHAKeeemy N950 isn't showing an update is available.18:31
TSCHAKeee:(18:31
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dnearylbt, Found my answer in the Verio docs: http://support.verio.com/documents/view_article.cfm?doc_id=3751 "The following CNAME format is incorrect. You must point to a machine name within the main domain."18:32
dnearyIt may be legal, but they don't allow it.18:32
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lbtAh - ok - so an internal limitation ...18:32
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dnearylbt, So doing this myself, in named.conf, I should put something like:19:11
dnearyzone "neary-consulting.com" {\ntype master;\nfile "/etc/bind/neary-consulting.com";\n}19:13
dnearyAnd then create /etc/bind/neary-consulting.com and create the zone file I need?19:13
dnearyHow do I go about convincing everyone (including Verio) that I'm the new master nameserver?19:14
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Greatgibdneary: you should set your nameserver as the primary nameserver at your domainname provider settings webpage19:30
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Aylahi20:01
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AylaI just installed MeeGo on an Aspire One 110, and wifi is not working20:02
Aylaaccording to lspci, it has an Atheros AR5001 chipset20:02
Aylashouldn't that one be working out of the box?20:03
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TSCHAKeeeif you've installed the latest meego, and that is happening, then no. You may want to check dmesg after launching terminal and see if the card has been detected.20:04
Aylait is20:05
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Ayla"ath5k phy0: Atheros AR2425 chip found"20:05
TSCHAKeeeinteresting20:05
TSCHAKeeedoes it give it a device?20:05
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Stskeepscheck rfkill?20:06
AylaI don't have that command20:06
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CosmoHillapparently 24% battery doesn't mean 24% battery20:13
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Aylashould there be a package for rfkill? The app browser does not find anything related to it20:22
Aylaand there's no package for GCC either, so I can't compile it myself20:22
Aylaok, I took the binary from a Debian package20:25
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AylaTSCHAKeee: "rfkill list" shows that the wireless interface is soft-blocked20:27
Aylahowever, running "rfkill unblock" on it does not change anything20:28
TSCHAKeeewouldn't that mean the radio is turned off?20:28
Aylaand doesn't return any error either20:28
* TSCHAKeee hasnt used that tool20:28
Aylawell, I believe that it would be hard-blocked then20:28
Aylathe tool display the name of the interface (acer-wireless here),20:28
Aylathen "Soft blocked: yes"20:28
Aylaand "Hard blocked: no"20:29
Aylathe manual confirms it, "hard blocked" means with a hardware switch20:31
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AylaI can activate the wireless interface using iwconfig/ifconfig20:50
Aylabut the Wifi switch on the settings tab is still grey20:51
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jedixhow can I disable certain packages in a linked project?21:56
Stskeepstell me when you find out :P21:56
jedixI have specific drivers that should not be built in a localdep linked project21:57
jedixhaha21:57
jedixI see..21:57
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Stskeepssomeone really need to implement that for obs21:59
jedixindeed21:59
jedixlooks like I have to hunt down what uses EMGD and replace it with sandy bridge stack22:00
jedixfun isn't the f word that comes to mind.22:00
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Stskeepsif anyone 'uses' emgd, it's broken from an architecture pov22:01
Stskeepsshould just be hardware adaptation22:01
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jedixI think the issue is that my new mesa package is missing a provides for libGLESv2.so.222:03
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Stskeepsah..22:03
jedixwhich means that the pkgconfig(gles2) in qt is failing22:03
Stskeepsprolly22:03
jedixright?22:03
Stskeepsnah, pkgconfig is diffrrent22:03
jedixokay22:04
jedixhave choice for pkgconfig(glesv2): mesa-libGLES-devel mesa-libGLESv2-devel22:04
jedixto the issue is there are two packages22:05
jedixI wonder if either are the right one22:05
jedixhaha22:05
Stskeepsthat looks really broken22:06
jedixyeah.22:06
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jedixprobably because I didn't do this right22:06
jedixwhat I should have done, and maybe I should do now is branch the mesa and replace it22:06
jedixinstead of having a linked project with a new package22:06
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jedixOkay there has to be an issue with my work flow22:18
jedixso I created a project that has that linked deps thing22:19
jedixthen I added packages that I wanted to replace22:19
jedixbut that didn't work22:19
jedixso I then branched them and rebuilt against that branched one22:20
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nand__BTW: Qt is a blackberry NDK component: http://blackberry.github.com/ndk/components.html22:20
jedixis that the right way to do what I want?22:21
nand__so can be in Tizen too22:21
jedixI expect my project will not be movign to tizen22:21
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jedixIf I branch a package in a project that is only linked, why does it still build the linked package and not the branched one?22:23
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jedixthis is brutal22:25
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Stskeepsbranch only builds in the branch22:25
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jedixso how do I have a project with certain packages being replaced by ones I want22:26
Stskeepssubmitreq it back to it22:26
jedixI don't understand22:27
Stskeepssubmitreq the changes into the linked project22:27
jedixbut I don't want to change the master project22:27
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Stskeepsi know, i'm talking about to the linked project22:28
jedixokay, so how do I checkout the source in the linked project to do that?22:28
jedixosc co doesn't pull down the links22:28
Stskeepsbranch from the linked project, then submit the branch back into it22:28
jedixokay, so I have to submitreq and it will do what I want..22:29
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jedixhrm, maybe my changes are too big for that..22:30
jedixI've deleted files and stuff..22:30
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pievagtest22:34
pievaganybody there?22:35
jedixmaybe.22:36
jedixStskeeps: that worked, thanks!22:36
pievagit's possible to develop meego under mac os x?22:38
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jedixI believe it is22:39
pievagbut i need to installa a virtual machine22:40
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pievagor exits a skd ?22:40
pievagmaybe a beta22:40
pievagor something22:40
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pievageooooh22:44
jedixI don't know22:47
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jedixusually I use a vm22:47
jedixfor such things22:47
jedixbut I run linux on every machine that has support for it22:47
jedixso I'm not really one to ask22:47
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CosmoHillhttp://cross-lfs.org/~cosmo/ups.mp423:52
arfollgandhijee_, pong23:52
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