| arcean | merlin1991: happily rss reader sources are available :) | 00:00 |
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| amiconn | (silicon bug, gcc bugs however are rather likely) | 00:00 |
| freemangordon | with -O2 cssu-calculator it sigills | 00:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | what's unlikely in silicon bugs? | 00:00 |
| Raimu | Lol, silicone | 00:00 |
| freemangordon | with -O3 works like charm (besides raster bug :D ) | 00:00 |
| * merlin1991 sees rss reader soon in cssu too | 00:00 | |
| freemangordon | now trying with -O1, so far works like charm | 00:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | silicon bugs are virtually impossible to rule out on a WFM-basis | 00:01 |
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| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: that makes them so awesome | 00:02 |
| merlin1991 | you start the rumor and nobody is ever going to trust the stuff again :D | 00:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | and I think in the very early days of fremantle there was a discussion with some Nokia devels about why they don't use thumb | 00:02 |
| freemangordon | i've been searching for some silicon bugs re CortexA8 and thumb, find nothing. while gcc bugs... | 00:02 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: but awe aren't going to swtich gcc either | 00:03 |
| freemangordon | a pile of | 00:03 |
| freemangordon | sure | 00:03 |
| merlin1991 | nor can we get rid of the A8 :D | 00:03 |
| freemangordon | I missed the point | 00:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | we should try to speak to someone in a central position of ex fremantle team, konttori maybe | 00:03 |
| freemangordon | Qt compiled with -O3 has a bug in raster engine | 00:04 |
| freemangordon | and that is gcc | 00:04 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: do you have contact? | 00:04 |
| merlin1991 | I'm pretty sure me and mag don't have that kind of contact :D | 00:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | if there's been such word about silicon bugs in N900 thumb, then it came from Nokia devels | 00:04 |
| freemangordon | and we are OK when everything works with -O2 | 00:04 |
| freemangordon | now, what is the difference to apply the same to thumb2? | 00:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, I could try to find a contact, but probably have to google or go via Quim or somebody who... aaaah dm8tbr possibly | 00:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | last thing I heard of Konttori iirc was he's in USA though | 00:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | now working for NokiaWinPhones | 00:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'll try to find better more precise info | 00:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | until then keep in mind there *might* be a reason for thimb not being used | 00:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | and maybe this reason is not fixable by a compiler update | 00:09 |
| merlin1991 | btw http://87.106.163.159/~christian/maemo/20111201_001.jpg | 00:09 |
| merlin1991 | yay :) | 00:09 |
| freemangordon | doc, and what is the reason to not use thumb on 3630? | 00:10 |
| merlin1991 | that is what he'll try to find out | 00:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | the idea hits my mind of compiler not being tested with thumb back when because there was no hw that even a bugfree code could run on | 00:10 |
| arcean | re thumb support: http://wiki.maemo.org/Packaging/Guidelines#Main_building_script:_debian.2Frules | 00:11 |
| freemangordon | I just refuse to believe that both 3430 and 3630 have same bugs not fixed for 5 years or so | 00:11 |
| freemangordon | errr who rote that? | 00:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah, sounds odd | 00:11 |
| freemangordon | wrote* | 00:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | err 3630? | 00:13 |
| freemangordon | no, the wiki page | 00:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | no, why 3630? | 00:13 |
| freemangordon | because AFAIK n9/50 don't use thumb too | 00:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm, maybe cargo cult | 00:14 |
| freemangordon | which does not make sense | 00:14 |
| freemangordon | and the "Maemo5: SHOULD NOT be used. The Omap3 version used in it has broken thumb support. " means nothing | 00:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | maybe the thumb issue was in N8x0 and lingered on in devels' mind | 00:14 |
| freemangordon | well, so far it IS gcc who breaks things | 00:15 |
| arcean | hmm, maybe Stskeeps will know the answer | 00:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | sure, as nobody ever tests a gcc faeture for a broken hw option | 00:15 |
| arcean | as they are using newer toolchain for mer/nemo | 00:15 |
| freemangordon | QT with -O2 everything works(including QML browser) besides libgui | 00:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | doesn't mean anything | 00:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | except obviously that it works for you | 00:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | so far | 00:16 |
| freemangordon | QT with -O1 libgui works, but webkit apps refuse to start | 00:17 |
| freemangordon | with -O3 averything works, but raster engine is broken | 00:17 |
| freemangordon | *everything | 00:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | doesn't mean it works on my device, or for you tomorrow when your sequence of opcodes is different, your cpu-freq-governor decided to ramp-up/down clock to a rate this code hasn't seen so far, your temperatures change, whatever | 00:18 |
| freemangordon | so, my next test will be to compile gui with -O1 and everything else with -O2 | 00:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | btw, what's the supposed purpose of using thumb? | 00:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | just asking | 00:19 |
| merlin1991 | reduced memory use | 00:19 |
| freemangordon | doc, until you find some errata from TI I will asuume GCC and not thumb support broken | 00:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | freemangordon: sure, fair enough. Just saying, keep in mind | 00:20 |
| freemangordon | As I told you, i've been searching for "broken CortexA8 thumb" errata for the last couple of days | 00:20 |
| freemangordon | Nothing | 00:20 |
| freemangordon | ok, we have a patch in kernel for some self-modifying code. | 00:21 |
| freemangordon | AFAIK Qt does not use such code | 00:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://www.google.de/search?q=cortex+A8+silicon+errata&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 | 00:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | checking now | 00:21 |
| freemangordon | thanks | 00:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | wow, that's more tedious reading than I was prepared to do now | 00:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | will possibly postpone to weekend | 00:24 |
| freemangordon | :D | 00:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | first day at job tomorrow | 00:24 |
| freemangordon | np, maybe until then I will have working thumb-compiled Qt | 00:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | please check that one, I'm too tired now. Might indicate there *was* a SiERR and they "fixed" it in SW: http://www.cygwin.com/ml/binutils/2009-05/msg00343.html | 00:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | which would rise the question: is this patch in our maemo code, where ever it belongs - or not? | 00:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | aiui it has to go to linker | 00:32 |
| Sc0rpius | I wonder why I can't install CSSU from the Application Manager anymore | 00:32 |
| freemangordon | should be, http://www.scratchbox.org/download/files/sbox-releases/hathor/tarball/scratchbox-toolchain-cs2007q3-glibc2.5-i486-1.0.16-1-i386.tar.gz | 00:32 |
| Sc0rpius | it sends me to the Backup thing, I make a Backup, and then I'm back to the Application Manager | 00:32 |
| Sc0rpius | it really bothers me | 00:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | you tried to NOT go to the backup thing? | 00:33 |
| Sc0rpius | yeah and nothing happens | 00:33 |
| Sc0rpius | it doesn't allow me to install | 00:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | o.O | 00:33 |
| Sc0rpius | the only way I found to install is either apt-get or Faster Application Manager | 00:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, you know you can install CSSU only once, and uninstallation is strictly forbidden :-D | 00:34 |
| Sc0rpius | yeah but I meant upgrade from one version of CSSU to the latest | 00:35 |
| Sc0rpius | so what the hell, I'm gonna use Faster Application Manager for this 1.1 update | 00:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | duh, anybody tested that? Do we correctly block uninstall? | 00:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | Sc0rpius: not helping to fix stuff in CSSU | 00:36 |
| Sc0rpius | :( | 00:37 |
| Sc0rpius | there is one bug that really bothers me | 00:37 |
| Sc0rpius | when hildon-desktop stops detecting the current rotation and everything goes to a mess and I have to reboot | 00:37 |
| Sc0rpius | it starts by launching my phone in landscape, God I hate that :P | 00:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | pretty please at very least do a backupmenu image, so somebody else could investigate state of your system later, and figure what's wrong and might need fixing | 00:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | quite possibly you installed T1 with some method that _now_ is causing problems | 00:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer | or fapman did something silly, not the first time we'd see that | 00:40 |
| merlin1991 | Sc0rpius: did you check the problems tab | 00:45 |
| merlin1991 | as it is clearly stated in the installation faq? | 00:45 |
| Sc0rpius | it never says that is a problem this is what happens: | 00:45 |
| Sc0rpius | 1.- I go to normal Application Manager, select Update | 00:46 |
| merlin1991 | just click metappacke | 00:46 |
| merlin1991 | got to details | 00:46 |
| merlin1991 | and wait a lil | 00:46 |
| Sc0rpius | 2.- CSSU appears, I select it | 00:46 |
| Sc0rpius | oh | 00:46 |
| Sc0rpius | hmm | 00:46 |
| merlin1991 | it's there on details | 00:46 |
| Sc0rpius | yeah I have some -dbg packages conflicts | 00:46 |
| freemangordon | :D | 00:46 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: we really need that ham fix :D | 00:47 |
| freemangordon | Yeah, I know | 00:47 |
| Sc0rpius | I read today that some people ported Android 4 (4?!?!) to the N900 | 00:48 |
| Sc0rpius | but I wonder who would install that crap :P | 00:48 |
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| Raimu | Yeah, but it's ice cream sandwich! How can you resist an ice cream sandwich?! | 01:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2011-09-27.log.html#t2011-09-27T10:29:48 >>*** konttori_work has joined #maemo | 01:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, maybe they call their next andridiot release Prozac or Cocaine | 01:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | I still won't touch it, but I guess this will make real noise | 01:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | and of course http://www.blogger.com/profile/13624128995827387189 (no email there either :-/ ) | 01:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | maybe just try to find his first name, then send to whateverfist.konttori@nokia.com | 01:33 |
| Raimu | DocScrutinizer :D | 01:55 |
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| jonwil | Sicelo: ping | 03:03 |
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| merlin1991 | jonwil: ping | 04:02 |
| jonwil | hi | 04:02 |
| merlin1991 | dunno if he's trolling: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1131881&postcount=30 | 04:02 |
| merlin1991 | but could this come from running your modified libsms? | 04:02 |
| jonwil | dont see how | 04:03 |
| merlin1991 | because afaik cssu doesn't change the telepathy and or sms stack at all, and your widget was the first thing that came to my mind that does anything with the sms libs | 04:03 |
| merlin1991 | gotta be some other issue then | 04:03 |
| merlin1991 | I honestly don't see how cssu could have caused that | 04:04 |
| * merlin1991 wonders wth could cause that kind of weird sms crap | 04:09 | |
| merlin1991 | hm could be simply broken modem though | 04:09 |
| jonwil | I cant see my widget doing it unless somehow their libsms.so.0.0.0 is genuinely screwed up (which would be very unlikely) | 04:10 |
| merlin1991 | probably a hardware / genuinely screwed up system issue | 04:12 |
| merlin1991 | the behaviour he's describing is just plain odd, from my understanding of the system msgs can't go away suddenly reappear | 04:13 |
| merlin1991 | the more youtube changes I see the more I think the new ui generation is yet a step worse | 04:14 |
| merlin1991 | though that last statement was a tad ot :D | 04:16 |
| Raimu | Someone gave a suggestion on the CSSU-t thread that (quote) "It's an indicator that your sms database is corrupt. If you do a db dump/convert it usually fixes the problem." | 04:30 |
| merlin1991 | ah yeah I remember, some people on #maemo talked about corrupted sms db like half a year ago | 04:31 |
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| jonwil | seems that so far everything is good with operator-name-cbs-widget | 05:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer | freemangordon: | 07:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | [2011-12-02 06:06:44] <dm8tbr> DocScrutinizer: thumbs are broken, pun intended | 07:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | [2011-12-02 06:22:59] <DocScrutinizer> dm8tbr: yes, that | 07:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | [2011-12-02 06:23:22] <DocScrutinizer> 's what I recall as well, but what *exactly* is broken | 07:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | [2011-12-02 06:24:18] <DocScrutinizer> as freemangordon now starts to compile Qt in thumb, claiming all the problems were mere compiler bugs | 07:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | [2011-12-02 06:24:22] <dm8tbr> I suppose if I spend half an hour digging through IRC logs I'd find it, but basically there are two errata that are of such nature that they can't both be fixed at the same time | 07:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | [2011-12-02 06:24:33] <dm8tbr> nope | 07:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | [2011-12-02 06:24:45] <DocScrutinizer> thanks a lot | 07:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer | [2011-12-02 06:25:25] <dm8tbr> and mind you there are two kernel fixes that can be activated, but they are mutually exclusive | 07:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | [2011-12-02 06:30:02] <dm8tbr> DocScrutinizer: http://www.beagleboard.org/irclogs/index.php?date=2011-01-29#T20:39:46 - specifically | 07:30 |
| * jonwil wishes he could be inspired to do more N900 work | 07:32 | |
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| DocScrutinizer | [2011-12-02 06:34:30] <dm8tbr> DocScrutinizer: btw - it's entirely possible that his code will run for hours without problems and then spontaneously combust into a giant fireball. at least that's what carsten and me saw. | 07:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | [2011-12-02 06:35:21] <DocScrutinizer> that's what silicon bugs are like, yes :-) thanks anyway for confirming it, as freemangordon wasn't inclined to trust in my words | 07:35 |
| Sicelo | jonwil: pong | 07:37 |
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| jonwil | Sicelo, can you read this http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2011-October/028671.html and do that shell script? | 07:38 |
| jonwil | and paste the results for me? | 07:38 |
| jonwil | That will help me find out why you get no operator name | 07:38 |
| jonwil | and what the bug in my widget is (if any) | 07:39 |
| Sicelo | how many lines are in the script? | 07:50 |
| Sicelo | jonwil: 15? | 07:51 |
| jonwil | yes | 07:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer | [2011-12-02 06:51:52] <Stskeeps> DocScrutinizer: thumb2 is immensel broken on n900 | 07:52 |
| Sicelo | jonwil: http://pastebin.com/ESBEhvFF | 07:53 |
| jonwil | what country is country code 653? | 07:54 |
| Sicelo | swaziland | 07:54 |
| jonwil | interesting :) | 07:54 |
| Sicelo | africa, between south africa & mozambique ;) | 07:55 |
| jonwil | I know where it is :) | 07:57 |
| jonwil | just didn't think of it as being particularly well developed | 07:57 |
| Sicelo | heh, it's not, but it's my home :D | 07:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | [2011-12-02 06:53:18] <dm8tbr> DocScrutinizer: here's my log of that http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1390357 | 07:59 |
| Sicelo | sometimes people think i've said Switzerland, lol | 08:00 |
| Sicelo | i wonder how you're going to display both operator name and cb sms, unless u find a way to have a second line of text on desktop. that's how the other phones do it. unless font for operator name is shrunk :/ | 08:05 |
| jonwil | My phone displays both just fine | 08:06 |
| jonwil | by printing the operator name then the cell tower name immediately after it | 08:06 |
| Sicelo | oh | 08:07 |
| jonwil | as for why your phone isn't displaying the operator name, I cant see anything wrong | 08:09 |
| jonwil | if it was going wrong on my phone, I would be using gdb to debug it | 08:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | freemangordon: you'll be pleased to hear/read: | 08:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | 2011-01-29 21:09:15< Stskeeps> ssvb: but i guess thumb is generally safe on beagleboard xm (36xx) and such? | 08:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | 2011-01-29 21:09:51< dm8tbr> and archos gen8 :) | 08:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | 2011-01-29 21:10:03< ssvb> Stskeeps: yes, I think it should be | 08:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | so obviously indeed cargo cult for HARM / N9 | 08:11 |
| jonwil | Sicelo, what do you see on your phoine, do you see anything at all or do you just get a blank space where the operator name used to be? | 08:11 |
| jonwil | and what do you see if you turn off "Cell Broadcast" in the settings? | 08:12 |
| * jonwil wishes connui-cellular was open source :( | 08:13 | |
| Sicelo | with cb on, i get the cb text (mtnzone 0%) | 08:13 |
| Sicelo | without, for now it's blank | 08:14 |
| jonwil | ok, that suggests that my operator name code is not performing identically to the stock widget | 08:14 |
| jonwil | Unfortunatly, as the stock widget is closed source, finding out how the 2 differ is going to be almost impossible | 08:14 |
| Sicelo | so now i toggled between 2G & 3G, and back to 2G. still shows cb sms text, even though disabled in settings :/ | 08:18 |
| jonwil | wierd that its doing that | 08:18 |
| jonwil | Do you have the logging turned on? | 08:19 |
| jonwil | oh wait | 08:19 |
| jonwil | you may need to reboot the phone or restart hildon-home or hildon-desktop or whatever it is | 08:19 |
| jonwil | I dont know why but for some people the "detect changes in the settings" code isn't working right and I dont know how to fix it | 08:20 |
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| Sicelo | yes.. restarting hildon-* changed back to operator name | 08:21 |
| jonwil | so my widget is installed and you get the operator name only, no cell broadcast | 08:22 |
| jonwil | with "cell broadcast" switched off | 08:22 |
| jonwil | is that corect? | 08:22 |
| Sicelo | yes | 08:22 |
| jonwil | do you have the logging options switched on? | 08:23 |
| Sicelo | not now. switched it off a few moments ago | 08:23 |
| jonwil | ok | 08:25 |
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| jonwil | what I want you to try this this:1.delete the 2 log files 2.Turn both logging options back on 3.Turn on the "cell broadcast display" 4.Restart hildon 5.Turn off "cell broadcast display" 7.Restart hildon 8.Turn off both logging options 9.Restart hildon again 10.Pastebin both logs | 08:27 |
| jonwil | That should help me find whatever bug you are getting. | 08:27 |
| Sicelo | ok. | 08:27 |
| jonwil | oh and on my end, switching the settings makes the widget change automatically with no need to restart hildon-* | 08:28 |
| jonwil | switching the settings via the control panel that is | 08:28 |
| jonwil | strange that it isnt doing it for yo | 08:30 |
| jonwil | strange that it isnt doing it for you | 08:30 |
| Sicelo | i also think my operator can do weird things, lol. some months ago anyone with automatic time update was surprised to have a clock that's 2 hours behind. took their techs about 3months to fix | 08:31 |
| Sicelo | i'm waiting just after step 4 above. no cb sms string received yet | 08:34 |
| jonwil | ok | 08:35 |
| jonwil | try toggling to 3g thern 2g | 08:35 |
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| jonwil | any luck? | 08:42 |
| Sicelo | http://pastebin.com/ZCvA5sVp | 08:45 |
| Sicelo | http://pastebin.com/w4bYYcP2 | 08:46 |
| Sicelo | i was also toggling 3G/2G after each change | 08:46 |
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| DocScrutinizer | freemangordon: | 08:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | [2011-12-02 07:45:00] <DocScrutinizer> isn't it funny there's no big fat bold warning "DONT USE THUMB, CPU IS BORKED!" in a prominent location of fremantle SDK? | 08:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer | [2011-12-02 07:45:35] <Stskeeps> i thought there was actually | 08:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | [2011-12-02 07:46:17] <Stskeeps> but can't find it | 08:49 |
| jonwil | hmmm, those logs dont tell me much, short of running the thing in GDB, I cant see any way to find out why you dont get the right operator name sometimes | 08:50 |
| Sicelo | i think i'll try to reinstall | 08:53 |
| Sicelo | did u get any feedback from others using it? | 08:53 |
| jonwil | yes so far everyone else seems to have had no problems | 08:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | possibly most of them only tested basic functionality? | 08:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | not even bothered to switch to 2G? | 08:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | so "doesn't differ to 'normal'" is best to expect from them | 08:58 |
| jonwil | others have said it works for them when switching to 3G | 08:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | otoh *some* bugs in extended functionality are not a blocker for CSSU-T | 08:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | jonwil: yes, basic functionality is supposed to work on 3G | 08:59 |
| jonwil | I mean others have said everything works (including cell broadcast) when switching to 2G | 09:01 |
| jonwil | So far Sicelo is the only one who has had problems with their operator name not displaying properly | 09:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'd test it and do some screenshots to show in detail what the new functions look alike, but alas my carrier doesn't use chan50 | 09:01 |
| jonwil | And short of either getting inside his phone with GDB or somehow finding a guru who can properly reverse engineer the stock widget, I have no way to figure out why his phone isnt doing what it should be doing | 09:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, you used raw dump of "everything"? | 09:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | to make sure the libsms works as supposed | 09:03 |
| jonwil | The cell broadcast SMS bits are working just fine for Sicelo | 09:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | there's my smscb.py which should do raw dumps | 09:03 |
| jonwil | the issue seem to be in the algorithim for determining the correct operator name | 09:04 |
| jonwil | which is as close to the way the stock widget does it as its possible for me (with my reverse engineering skills and other things) to get | 09:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | maybe locale encoding used for Sicelo is different | 09:04 |
| jonwil | the logs dont indicate that | 09:05 |
| jonwil | locale doesnt come into it for operator name | 09:05 |
| jonwil | there is nothing wrong with the cell broadcast SMS stuff for Sicelo (either in the logs or in what he says he sees on screen) | 09:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | errr, smscb as any sms has locale coded into it, afaik | 09:05 |
| jonwil | I am not talking about CBSMS | 09:06 |
| jonwil | which is the tower name/ID | 09:06 |
| jonwil | I am talking about the operator name | 09:06 |
| jonwil | which is the other part of what my widget does | 09:06 |
| jonwil | Its that which Sicelo isnt getting proper display of | 09:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | so operator name can't get garbled from smscb? | 09:06 |
| jonwil | nope | 09:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | mhm | 09:06 |
| jonwil | not unless g_strdup_printf is horidly broken | 09:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | no idea bout operator name encoding ATM | 09:07 |
| jonwil | My code for calculating that is as close to the stock widget as its possible for me with my ARM skills and know-how | 09:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | weird stuff | 09:08 |
| jonwil | and for everyone I have talked to/heard from except for Sicelo, its displaying exactly the right operator name | 09:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm, so we might get it into T and hope for a braoder tresters base and feedback | 09:08 |
| jonwil | The only way to make the algorithm even closer would be to get gdb going for someone who has problems, get Nokia to open-source connui-cellular or get someone with better ARM reverse engineering skills (or a copy of HexRays for ARM) to properly reverse engineer the stock widget | 09:09 |
| jonwil | but yeah I think the best way forward is to get it into cssu-t and get as many people using it as possible. | 09:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer | note that there are at least 3 sources for operator name | 09:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | if one of the less commonly used ones fails on your widget, odds are rarely anybody will notice | 09:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | I actually CAN test this, as my card is so old I see clear differences on the 3 methods, usually | 09:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | 4 methos actually | 09:23 |
| jonwil | there are 3 ways in which the code gets the operator name, the first is passed in as fields of the network_state structure that is passed to the net status callback (registered via connui_cell_net_status_register) | 09:23 |
| jonwil | the second is via a call to connui_cell_net_get_operator_name | 09:23 |
| jonwil | the third is connui_cell_sim_get_service_provider | 09:23 |
| jonwil | No idea how those match to actual network-level stuff | 09:24 |
| jonwil | I just call em because the stock widget calls em | 09:24 |
| jonwil | hence my reverse-engineered libconnui-dev package :) | 09:24 |
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| Sicelo | if it works fine for others, guess my operator is fsckd. just re-installed, and changing cb sms setting on the fly does nothing, not even cb sms log. i still haven't toggled 3G/2G. | 09:25 |
| Sicelo | hmm, 3G uses different cell ids from 2g? | 09:31 |
| jonwil | yep | 09:31 |
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| jonwil | MohammadAG: ping | 13:12 |
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| Raimu | jonwil: I've been testing your widget for some two days now. Logging's on, everything works but I don't think my network uses an alt broadcast method. Nothing in the logs indicate it, anyway. | 13:48 |
| jonwil | ok, makes sense | 13:48 |
| jonwil | not all operators do | 13:48 |
| Raimu | I did try it in 3g and 2g, though, a couple of times. | 13:48 |
| Sicelo | what's your operator Raimu? | 14:02 |
| jonwil | Sicelo: Got some more tests to run if you are willing to do it, just finishing some extra logging now to see whats going on | 14:04 |
| Sicelo | sure. u can ping when u have something. i will be on and off irc | 14:06 |
| jonwil | ok | 14:10 |
| jonwil | its a pitty I cant find someone with these problems who can run the plugin inside GDB and debug things... | 14:14 |
| Sicelo | jonwil: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1132055&postcount=15 .. almost similar :/ | 14:22 |
| jonwil | yeah I saw | 14:23 |
| jonwil | hence why I want to do some debugs with you to see whats going on | 14:24 |
| Raimu | Sicelo: TeleFinland. | 14:24 |
| Sicelo | i notice his opername.log has service provider name get, then set operator name Vodafone RO. on mine, set operator name is always blank | 14:24 |
| Sicelo | what is 'rat_name' in cbsms.log? | 14:25 |
| jonwil | radio access technology | 14:25 |
| jonwil | now building new package | 14:28 |
| jonwil | Sicelo, what do you get if you type gconftool -R /apps/connui-cellular | 14:31 |
| jonwil | >? | 14:31 |
| jonwil | ? | 14:31 |
| jonwil | What does it display? | 14:31 |
| jonwil | Sicelo: ping | 14:35 |
| Sicelo | pong | 14:36 |
| jonwil | Sicelo, what do you get if you type gconftool -R /apps/connui-cellular | 14:36 |
| Sicelo | the three values set for the 'widget' | 14:37 |
| jonwil | are they set to true or false at this point? | 14:37 |
| Sicelo | right now all are false, | 14:37 |
| jonwil | ok | 14:37 |
| jonwil | Do you have the widget installed? | 14:37 |
| Sicelo | i set them myself | 14:37 |
| Sicelo | yes, installed, but disabled | 14:38 |
| jonwil | ok, uninstall it with dpkg -r operator-name-cbs-widget then grab http://www.cncmods.net/files/operator-name-cbs-widget_0.1_armel.deb | 14:39 |
| jonwil | and reinstall | 14:39 |
| jonwil | you need to uninstall first otherwise the reinstall stuffs up your system for reasons I haven't yet found | 14:39 |
| jonwil | once you reinstall, immediatly reboot the phone | 14:41 |
| jonwil | without changing any settings | 14:41 |
| jonwil | then tell me what you see on the home screen | 14:41 |
| jonwil | you doing that? | 14:43 |
| Sicelo | yes.. rebooting right now | 14:43 |
| jonwil | ok | 14:44 |
| jonwil | once you have done that, tell me and I will give you the next instructions | 14:44 |
| Sicelo | hmmm, nothing displayed at all, not even operator name.. just blank | 14:44 |
| jonwil | ok | 14:44 |
| jonwil | Now go to the control panel and turn on all 3 options | 14:45 |
| jonwil | tell me if you see any change to the home screen | 14:45 |
| Sicelo | done | 14:45 |
| jonwil | any change? | 14:45 |
| Sicelo | not yet | 14:45 |
| jonwil | open both log files | 14:46 |
| jonwil | tell me what the last entry is in both | 14:46 |
| jonwil | last few lines | 14:46 |
| Sicelo | new lines refer to the changing of each of the setting in control panel | 14:47 |
| Sicelo | opername hasn't changed in any way | 14:47 |
| Sicelo | *opername.log | 14:48 |
| Sicelo | in gconf, all are true | 14:49 |
| jonwil | now switch from 3G to 2G and back | 14:50 |
| jonwil | or vice vresa | 14:50 |
| jonwil | versa | 14:50 |
| jonwil | switch from whatever state you are in to the other one and back | 14:51 |
| jonwil | then tell me if the screen or opername.log changes | 14:51 |
| jonwil | any change? | 14:52 |
| Sicelo | no change on screen, opername.log has some change.. here | 14:53 |
| jonwil | ok, get me the change | 14:54 |
| Sicelo | start operator name / state > operator name / operator Swazi-MTN error 0 / oper is / code 86 240 1 / service provider name empty / set operator name / | 14:54 |
| jonwil | pastebin it | 14:55 |
| jonwil | it will be easier to follow... | 14:55 |
| Sicelo | http://pastebin.com/rUHCjmRk | 14:56 |
| Sicelo | time now is 14:58 | 14:57 |
| Sicelo | now home screen has display of cb sms, but no operator name | 14:58 |
| jonwil | ok | 14:58 |
| jonwil | ok, that tells me something. | 14:59 |
| Sicelo | http://pastebin.com/3CPacymY | 14:59 |
| Sicelo | about to leave home.. will change cells :D | 15:00 |
| jonwil | ok, the gconf-change-detection seems to be working | 15:00 |
| Sicelo | yeah, gconf was changing all along | 15:00 |
| Sicelo | if u mean gconftool -R /apps/connui-cellular, that is | 15:01 |
| jonwil | I mean the code in the operator widget to detect changes to the settings via gconf_client_notify_add | 15:02 |
| jonwil | i.e. via the notification function passed to gconf_client_notify_add | 15:02 |
| Sicelo | ah | 15:04 |
| jonwil | I think I have a fix that should make things work better | 15:11 |
| jonwil | Although I cant find out what the EA code is doing differently to mine | 15:12 |
| jonwil | so I wont bother and will just add this workaround | 15:12 |
| jonwil | First up, uninstall the widget and then reboot the phone | 15:12 |
| Sicelo | sure | 15:14 |
| jonwil | having done that, grab http://www.cncmods.net/files/operator-name-cbs-widget_0.1_armel.deb and install it | 15:16 |
| jonwil | Then tell me if you see any change to the logs or home screen | 15:19 |
| Sicelo | rebooting, after install ... | 15:20 |
| jonwil | ok | 15:21 |
| jonwil | tell me what you see | 15:21 |
| Sicelo | no operator name yet. waiting | 15:22 |
| jonwil | ok | 15:23 |
| Sicelo | now cb sms string, no operator name still | 15:23 |
| jonwil | pastebin the log files if there is anything new in em | 15:23 |
| Sicelo | just a minute.. | 15:24 |
| jonwil | ok | 15:25 |
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| Sicelo_ | http://pastebin.com/x7LC1zra | 15:36 |
| jonwil | whats in your opername.log | 15:37 |
| Sicelo_ | http://pastebin.com/kNsaAF4V | 15:37 |
| Sicelo_ | bad connectivity now | 15:37 |
| jonwil | aha, I see a possible fix. Making changes now | 15:39 |
| Sicelo_ | ;) | 15:39 |
| jonwil | while you wait you should uninstall the widget, reboot the phone and then delete both log files | 15:45 |
| jonwil | so we start with a clean slate | 15:45 |
| Sicelo_ | ok | 15:46 |
| jonwil | thanks for your help in getting this to work right | 15:46 |
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| Sicelo | yw. cool feature. i'm back | 15:52 |
| jonwil | ok, so the logs are removede? | 15:53 |
| Sicelo | yeah | 15:53 |
| jonwil | ok, now grab http://www.cncmods.net/files/operator-name-cbs-widget_0.1_armel.deb | 15:54 |
| jonwil | and install | 15:54 |
| jonwil | then reboot the phone | 15:54 |
| jonwil | tell me what you see | 15:54 |
| jonwil | and pastebin both logs | 15:54 |
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| Sicelo | installed, logging and cbsms is on. home displays operator name. nothing cb sms. i'm on 3g | 16:03 |
| Sicelo | logs ... | 16:03 |
| jonwil | ok, what do you see if you switch to 2G? | 16:03 |
| jonwil | do you get cbsms? | 16:04 |
| Sicelo | http://pastebin.com/CC6Zd9tS | 16:04 |
| Sicelo | http://pastebin.com/W7hL7c5N | 16:08 |
| Sicelo | now going to 2G | 16:09 |
| Sicelo | yeah, | 16:10 |
| Sicelo | home shows both operator name & cb sms text | 16:10 |
| Sicelo | :P | 16:11 |
| jonwil | can you pastebin the 2 logs after you switched to 2G | 16:12 |
| jonwil | just so I can verify things one final time | 16:13 |
| jonwil | if thats all good, I will make another post in the tmo forum thread and let everyone know that all is good now and the problems are fixed | 16:13 |
| Sicelo | sure | 16:14 |
| Sicelo | http://pastebin.com/Sx3jKwhN | 16:15 |
| Sicelo | http://pastebin.com/Whcm6SCC | 16:16 |
| jonwil | looks good to me | 16:17 |
| jonwil | time to declare this thing "Finished" unless someone else appears with a bug | 16:18 |
| Sicelo | what was the issue? | 16:18 |
| jonwil | hard to explain to someone who doesn't understand the way the widget gets the operator name | 16:22 |
| Sicelo | heh, ok | 16:23 |
| Sicelo | thanks for great functionality | 16:24 |
| Sicelo | toggling cb sms on/off works perfectly now. | 16:41 |
| jonwil | good | 16:45 |
| jonwil | only change I can think of left is to move the control panel widget from "personalization" to "connectivity" | 16:46 |
| jonwil | but I cant be stuffed turning my Gentoo box back on to respin the package with that change :) | 16:46 |
| Raimu | jonwil, should I update the widget to your newest build now or just wait since the older one works for me? | 16:48 |
| jonwil | update now | 16:48 |
| jonwil | uninstall then reinstall | 16:48 |
| Raimu | Will do. | 16:52 |
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| * amiconn never saw a single cell broadcast message, despite having reception of those enabled forr 10+ years on his various mobile phones | 17:37 | |
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| Pali | merlin1991 or MohammadAG can you import my tvout plugins git repository and calculator engine repository to cssu gitorious? | 17:49 |
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| int_ua | amiconn, do you know of any cell broadcast usage anywhere? :) BTW, does N900 really supports it? How could developers test it? | 18:27 |
| int_ua | s/usage/usage fact/ | 18:27 |
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| merlin1991 | does anyone know how to reach nicolai? | 19:02 |
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| Sicelo | int_ua: jonwil has implemented cell broadcast already on n900 | 19:06 |
| * merlin1991 will wait another 15 mins, then try to start evaluating packages in -testing with anybody who happens to be around | 19:09 | |
| merlin1991 | Pali: you filed the bug against pdf viewer for the missing translation of the menu item, do you know where we need to add it ? | 19:15 |
| Pali | we need to create new gitorious repository and import pdf viewer l10n package | 19:16 |
| Pali | and then transtale missing string | 19:16 |
| Pali | we need to collect default lang translations | 19:16 |
| merlin1991 | is there some git repository with the original source somewhere? | 19:17 |
| merlin1991 | or do have to take it straight from the sdk? | 19:17 |
| Pali | no | 19:17 |
| Pali | l10n packages are only on downloads.maemo.nokia.com | 19:17 |
| Pali | and license of l10n packages says that is same as that application | 19:18 |
| merlin1991 | so we can copy paste them, k | 19:18 |
| Pali | please check it | 19:18 |
| merlin1991 | I will add that repo and push the original source after double checking the license :) | 19:18 |
| Pali | it was written in more l10n packages | 19:18 |
| Pali | but I do not know if for pdf viewer too | 19:19 |
| Pali | merlin1991: /usr/share/doc/osso-pdf-viewer-l10n-cscz/copyright: Licensed under same terms as the software component the l10n strings have been derived from. | 19:20 |
| merlin1991 | ah k | 19:20 |
| merlin1991 | pdf-viewer was gpl, right? | 19:20 |
| Pali | source package is osso-pdf-viewer-l10n | 19:20 |
| Pali | I chack that | 19:20 |
| Pali | merlin1991: license is not specified, but program is derivated from xpdf | 19:22 |
| Pali | and xpdf is under gpl v2 | 19:23 |
| Pali | so all is OK :-) | 19:23 |
| merlin1991 | and that one is gpl so we're all fine, nice | 19:23 |
| merlin1991 | oaky I will see to set that up today | 19:24 |
| amiconn | int_ua: No I don't. I have no idea whether the N900 supports it however, of the 11+ years of having a mobile phone, my N900 covers only ~1.5 years | 19:24 |
| merlin1991 | (and add german translation :D) | 19:24 |
| Pali | merlin1991, can you import my tvout plugins to gitorious? | 19:24 |
| int_ua | amiconn: See above, Sicelo said that it supports it :) | 19:25 |
| int_ua | s/it/N900/ | 19:25 |
| merlin1991 | Pali is that the same as https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/libcptvout ? | 19:25 |
| merlin1991 | if yes please file a merege request | 19:25 |
| Pali | no | 19:25 |
| Pali | http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/maemo-tvout-control.git | 19:25 |
| Pali | it is based on tvout desktop widget | 19:26 |
| Pali | that on gitorious is some qt application and my plugins has proper control panel plugin | 19:26 |
| merlin1991 | in that case it's up to mag, sorry | 19:26 |
| Pali | my git repository is based on https://gitorious.org/maemo-tvout-control | 19:27 |
| Pali | MohammadAG, see ^^^ | 19:28 |
| merlin1991 | okay anyone around to comment on stability of packages in -testing? | 19:28 |
| merlin1991 | the one thing that's going into next stable for sure is the upgraded maemo-security-certman | 19:29 |
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| Pali | merlin1991: now certman applet is open source | 19:29 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: we'll include that as soon as we write a patch to it | 19:29 |
| merlin1991 | no point in adding only because it's the exact same thing | 19:29 |
| Pali | ok | 19:30 |
| arcean | maybe the latest patch to osso-calc? | 19:30 |
| merlin1991 | besides that I've noticed a blocker bug in camera-ui which will stop it from getting included to stable in the current status | 19:30 |
| merlin1991 | arcean: that one isn't even in -testing yet | 19:30 |
| merlin1991 | wich leaves modest from the updated packages, and everything we didn't include in the first run | 19:31 |
| merlin1991 | anybody who uses modest alot? | 19:31 |
| Pali | And what to do with my patch for osso-calculator-engine? | 19:31 |
| arcean | merlin1991: I know, but it wouldn't made it worse ;) | 19:31 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: get mag to include it to -testing | 19:31 |
| Pali | ok | 19:32 |
| merlin1991 | -stable by definiton will only include packages from testing in versions we consider stable | 19:32 |
| merlin1991 | arcean: I think for -stable I'll also wait with including the hildon-home that fixes portrait wp since they still don't work as expected with image sets | 19:34 |
| Pali | on bugs.maemo.org is patch for portrait mode for Conversations | 19:34 |
| merlin1991 | any comments on modest? | 19:34 |
| Pali | can be that patch added to gitorious CSSU? | 19:35 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: that one has been discussed a lot, and we have the problem that the css that gets modified is not gpl | 19:35 |
| Pali | ah, ok | 19:35 |
| arcean | merlin1991: they don't even actually work correctly for landscape views | 19:35 |
| merlin1991 | yeah, but I don't want to announce "stable has portrait wp now" if it doesn't work for image sets :D | 19:36 |
| arcean | hehe | 19:36 |
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| merlin1991 | no comment at all about modest? | 19:43 |
| merlin1991 | is anybody even using modest? | 19:44 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: ping | 19:44 |
| Sicelo | heh, i do, but prefer mutt | 19:44 |
| Raimu | Modest would be the n900 vanilla e-mail application? | 19:44 |
| Sicelo | what do u have in mind? | 19:44 |
| Raimu | I use it, although not a lot. It hasn't ever glitched out on me. | 19:45 |
| merlin1991 | currently wo don't have modest in stable because the last testing version glitched like crazy | 19:45 |
| merlin1991 | on wednesday the cssu update included a possible all mighty fix to most crash bugs | 19:45 |
| merlin1991 | now I wonder how it performs now | 19:46 |
| merlin1991 | (it's going to get a longer time untill I consider it stable anyway though) | 19:46 |
| * amiconn didn't see modest crashes either | 19:46 | |
| merlin1991 | Pali: do you have the sms bug handy? | 19:47 |
| Pali | what is it? | 19:47 |
| merlin1991 | the patch for conversations I mean | 19:48 |
| * merlin1991 just realized it's dezember | 19:48 | |
| Pali | wait, I will try to find it in bugzilla | 19:48 |
| * merlin1991 has to rent a new root server | 19:48 | |
| * amiconn would like to see the two nasty fMMS bugs fixed | 19:49 | |
| amiconn | Probably not cssu material though | 19:49 |
| Pali | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11976 | 19:49 |
| povbot | Bug 11976: viewing sms conversations in portrait mode without horizontal scrolling (patch) | 19:49 |
| merlin1991 | yeah fmms is in extras, has to be fixed there | 19:49 |
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| merlin1991 | Pali: where is the fixed calculator engine? | 19:51 |
| Pali | http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/osso-calculator-engine.git/ | 19:51 |
| Pali | it of course need testing | 19:51 |
| merlin1991 | why can't you just make gitorious projects :D | 19:51 |
| merlin1991 | it would ease the integration into cssu a lot :D | 19:52 |
| Pali | I think it is same: using only git | 19:52 |
| Pali | and for me is simple to push somewhere git repository | 19:52 |
| merlin1991 | yea, but on gitorious you have the whole ui around it, I could easily browse your repo without cloning it, could comment on stuff there, you could do mergerequests against the cssu repos where yet again there is an option todo comments, ... | 19:53 |
| merlin1991 | are actually using your tv-out plugin? | 19:53 |
| Pali | yes, I have my tvout plugins installed | 19:54 |
| merlin1991 | actually what is the backend for the settings, is it simply some gconf stuff? | 19:55 |
| Pali | but now I cannot proper testing, my tvout cable is not with me | 19:55 |
| Pali | status area plugin monitor for all gconf keys | 19:55 |
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| Pali | and settings plugin only change that gconf kesy | 19:55 |
| merlin1991 | so the whole settings plugin simply is a gui for a few gconf keys | 19:56 |
| * merlin1991 goes to test it | 19:56 | |
| DocScrutinizer | yoh | 19:56 |
| Pali | and desktop widget is rewritten to only change gconf keys | 19:56 |
| Pali | status area plugin monitor HAL if tvout cable is connected/disconnected | 19:57 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: yoh? | 19:57 |
| Pali | and if is connected, it should show tvout status menu icon | 19:57 |
| Pali | *not icon but status menu entry | 19:57 |
| merlin1991 | does it need a reboot after installation? | 19:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: I accidentally enabled orientation lock in statusmenu. The disabled it again, and it messed up behaviour of desktop - no rotating despite GUI_may_rotate=no | 19:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | now* rotataing | 19:58 |
| Pali | merlin1991: yes, you need to reboot | 19:58 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: afaik the lock switches that key too | 19:58 |
| merlin1991 | check if it's still set | 19:59 |
| Pali | some people from TMO wrote that is needed reboot 2 or 3 times (I do not know why) | 19:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-/ | 19:59 |
| merlin1991 | yep lock widget does change gui_can_rotate too | 19:59 |
| merlin1991 | s/gui/ui/ | 20:00 |
| merlin1991 | just set it to false again and you should be all fine | 20:00 |
| * DocScrutinizer wonders how he can get rid of that widget, like in S | 20:00 | |
| merlin1991 | install S ;) | 20:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | pfff | 20:00 |
| merlin1991 | well you need to remove the T metapacke to get rid of it | 20:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | aah | 20:01 |
| merlin1991 | then you can just uninstall it and reboot | 20:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | then no more updates | 20:01 |
| merlin1991 | the package is status-area-orientationlock-applet | 20:01 |
| merlin1991 | well still more updates if you follow them and do manual apt-get installs ;) | 20:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | *cough* | 20:02 |
| merlin1991 | hehe | 20:02 |
| Pali | for Conversation portrait patch: can we use Quim exception: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1079565&postcount=4 ? | 20:02 |
| merlin1991 | yeah not exactly the right way | 20:02 |
| merlin1991 | tbh I don't wan't to break the nokia license based on that "exception" | 20:02 |
| merlin1991 | we need to get nicolai into irc more often | 20:03 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: are the builds on http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/ equal to the git repo there? | 20:04 |
| Pali | could be | 20:04 |
| merlin1991 | that's not what I wanted to hear ;) | 20:05 |
| merlin1991 | should I rather build myself to be on the safe side? | 20:05 |
| Pali | Now I see that they are older | 20:06 |
| merlin1991 | okay, cloning and building | 20:06 |
| Pali | that deb packages are builded with madde | 20:06 |
| Pali | and madde is experimental... | 20:06 |
| merlin1991 | I'll build them in sb | 20:06 |
| Pali | ok | 20:07 |
| Pali | this is better for testing | 20:07 |
| merlin1991 | and the compile failed, Nor rule to make target 'configure', needed by 'config.status' | 20:10 |
| Pali | ./autogen.sh | 20:11 |
| merlin1991 | that should be done by the debian/rules if needed | 20:11 |
| Pali | yes, I will add rule "configure:\n\t./autogen.sh" | 20:12 |
| merlin1991 | hm now it chocked on error expecte declaration specifier or '...' before DBusConnection' | 20:13 |
| merlin1991 | nah | 20:13 |
| merlin1991 | actual error is file not found dbus/dbus.h | 20:13 |
| Pali | aaah | 20:13 |
| Pali | bad includes | 20:13 |
| Pali | need to fix autoconf.am | 20:14 |
| Pali | *configure.ac | 20:14 |
| Pali | or maybe missing dependences | 20:14 |
| merlin1991 | well then they miss in the build-depends in the control file too | 20:16 |
| merlin1991 | otherwise dpkg-buildpackage would fail | 20:16 |
| merlin1991 | /usr/include/dbus-1.0/ is missing in the include paths | 20:18 |
| merlin1991 | so I guess the check for libdbus in configure.ac is missing | 20:18 |
| Pali | I recompiled and updated deb packages | 20:25 |
| Pali | on: http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/ | 20:25 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: we still need the source in a way that compiles in sb straight | 20:27 |
| Pali | yes, I know, but now deb packages can be tested | 20:27 |
| Pali | I do not know autotools, so that problems can fix someone else better | 20:28 |
| merlin1991 | it's mainly that the call to PKG_CHECK_MODULES for dbus is missing | 20:29 |
| merlin1991 | I'm currently trying to find out what fsckd name the libdbus has in dpkg-config | 20:30 |
| Pali | it is pkg-config | 20:30 |
| Pali | try "dbus-1" | 20:31 |
| merlin1991 | yah typo there | 20:31 |
| merlin1991 | and ofc it was dbus-1 | 20:31 |
| merlin1991 | ARF | 20:31 |
| merlin1991 | tried dbus libdubs libdbus-1 | 20:31 |
| merlin1991 | but didn't think of dbus-1 :D | 20:31 |
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| merlin1991 | rofl the autoconf is srly fsckd | 21:14 |
| merlin1991 | I fixed the compile but now the packaging is looking in the wrong directories | 21:14 |
| merlin1991 | to be exact | 21:16 |
| merlin1991 | the stuff for hildon-desktop ends up in the hildon-cp folder and vice versa | 21:16 |
| Pali | aaah, I see that HILDON_CONTROLPANEL_LIB_DIR is badly assigned | 21:17 |
| Pali | and also HILDON_DESKTOP_LIB_DIR | 21:18 |
| Pali | merlin1991: see configure.ac | 21:18 |
| Pali | and swap it | 21:18 |
| * merlin1991 wonder HOW this even works in madde | 21:18 | |
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| Pali | I have special patch for building in madde | 21:19 |
| Pali | which replace only that variabales | 21:19 |
| Pali | madde has its own pkg-config | 21:20 |
| merlin1991 | I see | 21:20 |
| Pali | which works other then that in scratchbox | 21:20 |
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| merlin1991 | if this compile works I have a git commit that fixers all compile errors in sb | 21:22 |
| merlin1991 | hm yet another one to find | 21:23 |
| Pali | ok | 21:23 |
| merlin1991 | for some odd resaon the .desktop files end up in debian/tmp/usr/usr/share/... | 21:23 |
| merlin1991 | instead of debian/tmp/usr/share/.. | 21:23 |
| Pali | edit data/Makefile.am | 21:24 |
| Pali | and remove @prefix@ | 21:24 |
| Pali | @prefix@ is replaced by /usr/ | 21:24 |
| merlin1991 | yep found that before you could post :D | 21:25 |
| merlin1991 | okay compile works | 21:29 |
| merlin1991 | now how do I get that commit to you? | 21:30 |
| Pali | git format-diff | 21:30 |
| Pali | *patch | 21:30 |
| merlin1991 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/757421/ | 21:32 |
| Pali | merlin1991: thanks! now I pushed it into my web git repository | 21:34 |
| merlin1991 | okay, going to test this now | 21:37 |
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| merlin1991 | Pali: I'm going todo a comparison vs stock, 2 n900s ftw ! (http://87.106.163.159/~christian/maemo/20111201_001.jpg) | 21:38 |
| Pali | ok | 21:39 |
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| merlin1991 | Pali: I see nothing in the status menu | 21:47 |
| merlin1991 | btw does stock maemo have the tv-out running all the time? (because it has no option to turn it off or on) | 21:47 |
| Pali | in stock maemo, tvout is still enabled when connecting cable | 21:48 |
| Pali | and is not possible to disable it | 21:48 |
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| Pali | what do you mean that you see nothing in status menu? | 21:48 |
| merlin1991 | I have the widget on the desktop | 21:49 |
| merlin1991 | and the applet in the control panel | 21:49 |
| merlin1991 | but nothing in the status menu | 21:49 |
| merlin1991 | (the package is installed though) | 21:49 |
| Pali | try connect tvout output | 21:49 |
| Pali | status menu should show only when tvout is running | 21:49 |
| merlin1991 | I have that | 21:49 |
| merlin1991 | (connected) | 21:49 |
| Pali | see output on your TV | 21:50 |
| Pali | check it | 21:50 |
| Pali | if status menu entry is not visible when tv output is running it is bad... | 21:51 |
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| merlin1991 | Pali http://87.106.163.159/~christian/maemo/20111202_001.jpg | 21:52 |
| Pali | uff | 21:52 |
| Pali | wait | 21:52 |
| Pali | what is output of: cat /sys/devices/platform/nokia-av/detect ? | 21:52 |
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| merlin1991 | 3 | 21:53 |
| Pali | 3 means open cable | 21:54 |
| Pali | 2 - video cable | 21:54 |
| Pali | but status menu plugin using hal | 21:55 |
| Pali | wait, I will write hal check command | 21:55 |
| Raimu | I can confirm that the status menu entry won't appear on my n900 either when plugged in TV and everything else runs. | 21:55 |
| Raimu | Additionally, why does the scale option blank the TV screen when the scale percentage drops over 50? | 21:55 |
| Pali | run: $ lshal -u /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_soc_audio_logicaldev_input | 21:57 |
| Pali | input.jack.type should be videoout | 21:58 |
| merlin1991 | line-out | 21:58 |
| merlin1991 | video-ou | 21:59 |
| merlin1991 | input.jack.type = {'line-out', 'video-out'} (string list) | 21:59 |
| Pali | ah ok | 21:59 |
| Pali | I only checking first type | 22:00 |
| Pali | and it is with '-' | 22:00 |
| Pali | I will fix this | 22:00 |
| merlin1991 | Pali I checked various things, cat /sys/devices/platform/nokia-av/detect only switched to 2 once | 22:00 |
| merlin1991 | but in that case it was connected but for some odd resaon the screen had no image :D | 22:01 |
| Pali | that sysfs file is now irrelevant | 22:01 |
| merlin1991 | yep | 22:01 |
| Pali | status menu plugin use only hal info | 22:01 |
| merlin1991 | crap though that the sysfs file doesn't work | 22:01 |
| Pali | so I will check for "video" substring in input.jack.type | 22:01 |
| merlin1991 | how do you talk to hal? | 22:03 |
| merlin1991 | nvm I'll check the source | 22:03 |
| Pali | libhal_device_add_property_watch | 22:04 |
| Pali | only in tvout_status_menu_item.c | 22:04 |
| merlin1991 | so you say the stock system enabled tv-out as soon as the cable is connected? | 22:05 |
| Pali | yes | 22:07 |
| Pali | and also with my plugins | 22:07 |
| Pali | now I pushed hot fix into git repository | 22:07 |
| Pali | if check for all values in input.jack.type if starting with "video" | 22:08 |
| Pali | stock system autoenable and autodisable tvout output and also monitor pal/ntfs format | 22:09 |
| Pali | this is done by ohm and dres | 22:09 |
| Pali | my plugins do not touch this | 22:09 |
| Pali | and after reinstallation is needed to reboot device | 22:10 |
| merlin1991 | It's dinnertime for me now, I will check after | 22:11 |
| Pali | ok | 22:13 |
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| Pali | new version with this fix is builded on: http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/ | 22:19 |
| merlin1991 | in the git repo too? | 22:19 |
| Pali | yes | 22:20 |
| merlin1991 | does the desktop widget depend on anything? | 22:20 |
| Pali | Raimu: scaling problem is in xorg driver | 22:20 |
| merlin1991 | or can it be used standalone too? | 22:21 |
| Pali | control panel plugin and desktop plugin depends on status menu plugin | 22:21 |
| Pali | but status menu plugin has button which open control plugin, so status menu plugin depends on control panel plugin | 22:22 |
| Pali | desktop widget only change gconf keys | 22:23 |
| merlin1991 | so desktop widget in fact could simply go into extras? | 22:24 |
| Pali | yes, but it does not work without status menu plugin | 22:25 |
| Pali | old version of desktop widget is in extras | 22:25 |
| merlin1991 | why does the desktop widget not work without status menu plugin? (sorry if I sound dumb) | 22:29 |
| Pali | desktop widget only change gconf keys. status menu applet monitor for gconf keys and talking with xorg driver for changes | 22:31 |
| Pali | status menu plugin when starting read gconf keys and change initial settings (aspect, scale, ...) | 22:32 |
| Pali | it doing same like ohm and dres with pal/ntsc config | 22:32 |
| merlin1991 | okay | 22:33 |
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| merlin1991 | well all I can say is, that it works now | 22:34 |
| Pali | nice :-) | 22:34 |
| Pali | Raimu: bug is fixed | 22:35 |
| Raimu | Pali: Nice! | 22:46 |
| Raimu | Want me to test it as well? | 22:46 |
| Pali | yes, you can test it | 22:46 |
| Raimu | OK, be right back. | 22:46 |
| Raimu | It does work. :) | 22:51 |
| Pali | :) | 22:51 |
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