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Ponchalesome senior developer connected?01:47
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sixwheeledbeastPonchale:  try #maemo-ssu01:51
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KotCzarnylol, what's a senior developer?01:57
KotCzarnyand where is he/she connected to?01:57
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DocScrutinizer05KotCzarny: use zzztop instead powertop03:15
DocScrutinizer05125MHz is reported to be unstable03:17
DocScrutinizer05btw SR also is said to be unstable, and it's unclear if those TI&Nokia guys were really too incompetent to fix the efuse SR settings03:18
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lopxtrying to install android simulator. Nitroid?05:31
lopxall went well but couldn't boot, I need kernel I think.05:31
lopxthe link is dead to its download ;_:05:32
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lopxanyone know? I need android badly05:33
lopxI have nokia900. Anyone? Please...05:37
lopxgreat help ###maemo :D05:47
DocScrutinizer05cmd: Fr 24. Jul 04:48:31 CEST 201505:48
pentanolnever use this on n90005:48
lopxpentanol: can you explain?05:50
Luke-Jrany other potential N900 replacements besides Neo900 and Pyra?05:51
Luke-Jrdisappointed the Pyra will lack cameras :x05:52
lopxmaemo is dead and it's frustrating as fuck ugh...05:54
lopxtricks on emulating android apps?05:54
lopxwhat if I go debian?05:55
Luke-Jrlopx: Pyra community is apparently planning to have Android in VM(s)05:55
lopxLuke-Jr: good news05:56
Luke-Jrbut only 2 GB RAM, so not sure it will be practical :x05:56
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DocScrutinizer05heck, when you need android, get an android device, no?06:16
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lopxDocScrutinizer05: and I always thought we were the exceptional few, who would run just anount anything on anything...06:24
lopxif I don't get it to work then yeah06:24
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lopxall I need is a kernel everything seems to work fine. I can't boot, that's my problem06:25
Luke-JrDocScrutinizer05: I don't want two devices.06:26
DocScrutinizer05well, I dunno, seems like nitroid is an android flaver from like 5 years ago06:29
DocScrutinizer05questionable if it's of much use today06:30
DocScrutinizer05but then, I'm pretty clueless about android06:31
lopxwiki is dead ;_;06:32
DocScrutinizer05 works for me06:33
lopxyes haha dl links...
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lopxanyhow, how come it's so empty? I've been gone for sometime -_;06:47
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Luke-JrDocScrutinizer05: pretty sure the Pyra VM will be a recent Android :p07:40
DocScrutinizer05I guess they will use schashlik, but that's not related to nitdroid07:45
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AlphadogThe following packages have been kept back:09:08
Alphadoglibgcc1 libsdl-mixer1.2 libstdc++609:08
AlphadogDoes anyone know why is that so09:08
Alphadogdeb ./09:09
Alphadogdeb ./09:09
Alphadogdeb fremantle free non-free09:09
Alphadogdeb fremantle free non-free09:09
Alphadogdeb fremantle free non-free09:09
Alphadogdeb fremantle free non-free09:09
Alphadogdeb fremantle free non-free09:09
Alphadogdeb fremantle non-free09:09
Alphadogdeb fremantle free09:09
Alphadogdeb fremantle amsn tcltk09:09
AlphadogThis is my sources.list09:10
AlphadogI have a warning about a key expired  for both muarf  mirrors09:11
AlphadogBut I doubt this is the reason09:12
AlphadogLinux Nokia-N900 2.6.28-omap1 #1 PREEMPT Fri Aug 6 11:50:00 EEST 2010 armv7l unknown09:13
AlphadogThis is my uname -a output09:13
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AlphadogOn the forum i read that i must have libcurl3 to use facebook sharing plugin09:17
AlphadogIt seems i have 7.26.0 from curl -V output, which is newest in my oppinion. In extras-devel repo, there is 7.25.0-109:26
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KotCzarnyalphadog: enabling extras-testing and extras-devel for regular use is not a smart idea10:38
KotCzarnyits ok to install single apps, but otherwise things can break10:39
AlphadogBut i suppose its late now to disable them10:39
AlphadogAfter ive run apt get update & upgrage10:40
KotCzarnynope, unless you did apt-get update and upgrade10:40
KotCzarnyas for the packages being kept back try apt-get install name-of-the-kept-package10:40
KotCzarnyto see what is the problem10:40
AlphadogI will reflash it tomorrow.10:41
AlphadogSo for soursec.list what to leave10:42
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AlphadogThe muarf mirrors, stable and extras10:44
KotCzarnywhat is maemo stable?10:44
AlphadogNot maemo testing and extras testing, neither extras devel10:44
KotCzarnythere is no such thing as maemo stable :)10:45
bencohif you really want to keep -testing and -devel, use apt pinning10:45
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KotCzarnyyou can use -devel but just dont enable it 100% of the time10:46
AlphadogThis one, it says stable on the site ☺10:46
KotCzarnyjust for the things you need10:46
KotCzarnybtw. community is ssu enabler apparently10:46
KotCzarnyso it is ssu-stable10:47
KotCzarnyi mean cssu10:48
AlphadogI haven't experienced trouble using things for now10:48
KotCzarnyjust remember that extras-devel can contain some broken packages, as anyone can upload there without much checking10:49
AlphadogSo it s not a good idea to use cssu testing and extras testing10:49
KotCzarnyextras-testing is very similar to extras-devel10:50
bencohcssu-testing is fine, extras-testing should be okay in practice, -devel isn't10:51
bencoh("fine" as in "a lot of people use it", but it's still a -testing, not a -stable)10:51
AlphadogAre different cssu and extras repos compatible, eg cssu-testing and extras10:52
KotCzarnyextras-testing was meant as a temporary 'try this package for stableness' but without testers almost no one bothers with it10:52
AlphadogSo cssu-stable and extra should be the right for me10:54
KotCzarnyfor a start, yes10:54
KotCzarnyand extras-devel for packages you cant find in extras10:54
AlphadogI suppose additional repos are ok - fennec,opera,vlc..10:55
KotCzarnyif you install cssu, you can use nicer application manager, apt is not recommended way on maemo10:58
KotCzarnyespecially apt upgrade10:58
KotCzarnyhmm, what was its name..10:58
infobotfapman is probably Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU), or actually for anything since ~speedyHAM. It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. In short, it's been identified as source of system corruption and thus deprecated, or see ~hamvsfam10:58
infobotit has been said that hamvsfam is, or
bencohit's in cssu-testing now11:02
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KotCzarnywhat was the last thing you saw?11:11
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AlphadogIts in cssu-testing11:12
AlphadogI also found ham is  extremely slow, thats why i started using apt11:13
KotCzarnyuse speedyham11:14
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AlphadogAccording this links, using fam is not a good idea, because it uses apt11:16
KotCzarnythats why 'use speedyham'11:16
AlphadogOk, and what about an youtube client, can you recommend me sth11:17
KotCzarnycutetube or something11:17
AlphadogThere are few programs, but they seem not working11:18
AlphadogWhat do you use11:18
KotCzarnyyoutube interface changes often11:19
AlphadogAnd what about local video. I tried to play MP4 files from sd card, 720p quality.11:20
infobot720p is, like,
bencohdont expect it to play highprofile (or main profile) 720p11:22
bencoh720p/baseline should be fine11:22
AlphadogI suppose it will be better to convert them to 480p11:24
AlphadogOn my pc with mencoder or sth else11:25
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bencohyeah, ffmpeg should do the trick11:26
bencohI think they have a profile for 3gs11:26
bencoh(iphone 3gs, which is roughly similar regarding h264 playback)11:26
AlphadogAs far as i know they use the same ti omap cpu11:30
Alphadog3gs and n90011:30
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bencohit's a cortex-a8 @600mhz as well but not a TI SoC11:31
AlphadogWhat browser can you recommend me to use - fennec, opera or microB11:38
KotCzarnyany of them have unique features11:39
KotCzarnyso.. all11:39
KotCzarnyif something doesnt work in microb, try fennec or opera etc11:40
AlphadogIt was a good surprise that google plus was perfect with both fennec and opera11:41
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AlphadogBut this cannot be said about facebook :) it was awful on both browsers11:42
KotCzarnyfacebook, not even once :P11:42
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AlphadogIt seems only cutetube2 works for now11:53
AlphadogSo what about local video player. Currently I use vlc both at home and work, with xp and debian. Is it ok to use vlc.11:54
KotCzarnyalso, install omp (open media player)11:56
bencohcutetube no longer works ?11:56
AlphadogYes, there is cutetube-QML, which can use daylimotion and youtube, but only dailymotion works.11:58
AlphadogCutetube doesnt work at all11:58
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bencohhmm right, no search result for youtube12:04
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Luke-Jrhuh? fennec isn't even usable12:08
KotCzarnyits slow12:08
KotCzarnybut renders ok12:09
Luke-JrI couldn't call an Uber with it it was so slow12:12
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KotCzarnythen its not the fennec fault but stupid site12:14
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Luke-Jrstupid site works fine on my PC :P12:16
KotCzarnystupid site with limited functionality and overbloated 'content' :P12:17
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KotCzarnyi mean, other sites work, right?12:19
KotCzarnyand how much power one would need for a simple post request?12:19
bencohyeah fennec is barely usable12:25
bencoh(and yeah, the uber website is bloated and almost useless :p)12:25
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teotwakiI'm not sure I get the point of wanting to play 720p content on the n90013:34
teotwakiit's not like the hardware was designed for it, and the screen/video out definitely doesn't support it.13:35
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keriopreviewing the 720p video you just took?13:37
teotwakithe camera doesn't film in 720p, does it?13:37
teotwakialso, long time everyone, how's it been? I work for ex-Nokians in Denmark now :)13:38
bencohit can13:38
bencohex-nokians? :)13:38
AlphadogDid you mean jolla :)13:40
teotwakiJolla is in Finland13:40
teotwakiand the whole of Nokia didn't end up at Jolla xD13:41
AlphadogI wanted to buy their phone, but in my country nor operators neither stores offered it13:43
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AlphadogI had to buy an andr one. I havent check how is the situation now.13:44
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bencohKotCzarny: cutetube2 doesnt click as well :)13:50
KotCzarnybencoh, could be it uses mafw for playback13:50
bencohI dont think it uses mafw13:50
KotCzarnystill, do you have any hints where and how to debug it?13:50
bencohthere is a funny preventScreenBlanking with a _HILDON_DO_NOT_DISTURB property in cutetube213:53
bencohnot sure whether this is related13:54
bencohand ... it's in openmediaplayer as well13:54
bencoh// Prevent notifications and popups from obscuring the window13:54
bencohmight not be the one you need13:54
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KotCzarnyhmm, i wonder how to call that atom in console app14:17
KotCzarny_HILDON_DO_NOT_DISTURB is x thing14:18
bencohit is14:18
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shaggycatHi all15:00
shaggycatI have a access problem15:00
shaggycatSorry, it seems that you are using an IP address or a proxy that is listed in the forum anti spam blacklist. Feel free to contact our staff on irc freenode #maemo channel.15:00
shaggycatto talk.maemo.org15:00
shaggycatplease delist IP:
APicshaggycat: Did You mean to post this in #Freenode or something?15:03
bencohI guess he's talking about talk.maemo.org15:04
bencoh(or the whole maemo infra)15:04
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shaggycatyes, I about talk.maemo.org15:16
shaggycatAnd i'm she :)15:16
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bencohshaggycat: 15:15 < sixwheeledbeast> that IP has been used for brute force attacks in the past according to search engines15:38
bencohdunno what happened with this IP15:39
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shaggycatbencoh, but It's not me15:39
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bencohsixwheeledbeast: dunno if you have access to that, but ... ^15:40
bencoh(or warfare maybe_15:40
shaggycatprobably it is one of Windows station. This Ip of our office. And I'm not a system administrator of it. I'm cloud developer (DevOps)15:40
bencohhm, probably15:41
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KotCzarnywasn't that shaggycat's ip reported bad ip? ie. bruteforce hacks and stuff17:56
KotCzarnyso even if she is ok, unblocking would mean bad scripts would have access there17:57
bencohmaybe not18:04
bencohthe reports I've seen seem quite "old" (a year)18:05
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shaggycatbencoh, please18:15
shaggycatNot works yet....18:15
shaggycatI want to read forum :(18:16
kerioshaggycat: why the need for tor to access TMO?18:16
shaggycatkerio, I live in Russia18:16
shaggycatkerio, here is censorship18:17
kerioayy lmao18:17
shaggycatkerio, and, is not TOR node18:17
shaggycatIt is our office18:18
shaggycatsNAT IP18:18
shaggycatof gateway18:18
kerioi see18:18
shaggycatsometimes I use tor, becouse our goverment like to block some interesting rescources,18:18
shaggycatbut not not works with tor and NAT both :(18:19
shaggycat*but now18:19
KotCzarnyshaggycat, can you access * from your home internet?18:19
shaggycatKotCzarny, yes, but at home I have not time to it18:19
shaggycatAt work I have free time18:20
KotCzarnyok, now, install sshd at home and some http proxy, then from work ssh to home and forward some port to that proxy18:20
kerioif you can ssh to home, you might as well just use the builtin SOCKS proxy18:22
shaggycatKotCzarny, I have not public IP at home18:23
bencohshaggycat: I'm not an admin, I cant do anything about it (that's why I highlighted the others)18:23
shaggycatMay be,  anybody can create a ticket for admin?18:24
sixwheeledbeastI am not techstaff if that was the question18:24
sixwheeledbeastmailto: techstaff@maemo.org18:24
KotCzarny(assuming they havent added her ip to block list too)18:25
bencohoh, okay18:25
KotCzarnyjust kidding18:25
shaggycatOk. Thank you18:25
sixwheeledbeastI can help with wiki but that's about it.18:26
bencohshaggycat: I thought you had admin rights on TMO ... nevermind :)18:27
bencohwoops, that was for sixwheeledbeast of course :)18:28
shaggycatbencoh, :)18:28
sixwheeledbeastnope, TMO is chemist18:28
shaggycatbencoh, In the past, I had a root with big cluster (when I worked in expluatation department, at UNIX administrator), but now I only localhost root :) And, probably, root on my labs :)18:30
shaggycatusually, devops has'nt root in production servers...18:31
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KotCzarnyexploitation department?18:33
shaggycatexploitation, operation - sorry for bad english18:33
bencohKotCzarny: "production" (you know, the servers thou shalt not shutdowns :)18:34
KotCzarny Last attack: 24.07.201518:36
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KotCzarny Attacks count:  23 (this month)18:37
KotCzarnyshaggycat, you work with bad people18:37
KotCzarnyask netadmins if they know about it18:37
shaggycatIt is a very sad story :) Some years before, I bought Nokia N900 (and when I work in operations, It was good to have imidiatly access to servers from subway, becouse harsware keyboard). After some years, I get a dream about Jolla Phone. And, one day, I know about hardware jeyboard project, tohkbd rev1. Unfortunately, in this moment, new orders can't be aprouved. And was a pic with aduld women with phone, and tell: "no new keyboards". I was a very sad, a18:39
shaggycatnd try to find speculator. And I found one, and bought the rev1 keyboard without jolla phone. In next step of this sad history,18:39
KotCzarnyjust ask netadmins at your office if they know that someone is doing bad things from inside your network18:40
shaggycatI have a plans to buy Jolla phone. But my family get a some problems, and I was'nt have a free moneys in this moment. One year has passed, and my Nokia N900 was died,18:40
bencohI'd rather buy a "new" (used) n90018:41
bencoh(instead of a jolla)18:41
shaggycatAnd I bought a Jolla Phone. After 2 day, market price of Jolla phone was reduced :) And the keyboard, what I try to attach to my new Jolla phone, not worked18:41
shaggycatAnd, I go to,18:42
shaggycatand seen,18:42
shaggycatA stop aprouving orders to new keyboard, rev2 :)18:42
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shaggycatand Is a NOT more new keyboards in ebay with big price from speculators :)18:43
shaggycatand, in next step, a banned me18:43
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shaggycatchannel, am I a looser :))?18:44
KotCzarnynope, but someone if your office is18:44
shaggycatBut, kimmoli try to help me, and I send to him a parcel with my broken rev1 keyboard to repair18:45
shaggycatMay be it will work18:45
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shaggycatOr may be not. natural continuation of this sad story will be can't be repaired keyboard :)18:46
bencohwhat happend to your n900?18:48
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shaggycatbencoh, the screen blinking18:49
shaggycatIt is a very sad about team of rev2 keyboard use the same pic with adult women with phone :)18:50
shaggycatIt was a very sad year before, and it is now very sad for persons, who late again18:51
DocScrutinizer05screen "blinking" sounds like flexcable broken18:56
shaggycatJolla Phone more like me then N900: it is more powerfull, interesting GUI, and new kernel, new toolchain, Wayland :)) and it is a also standart plus, android emulator. But I need a hw keyboard :(18:58
shaggycatI'd like to print long posts to forums inside subways,18:59
shaggycatand coding :)18:59
KotCzarnythere are bt keyboards with phone holders18:59
shaggycatBecouse laptop has a big waight18:59
KotCzarnymaybe you just need one18:59
shaggycatit is not conveniently. Rev1 keyboard of cource has not-production look,19:00
shaggycatbut it is more conveniently then special device19:00
shaggycatbecouse I have a one device, not 219:01
shaggycatin transport one device more comfortable19:01
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KotCzarnyi have 2 devices, n900 and ebookreader with mirasol display19:02
shaggycatKotCzarny, I'm crazy, I think. Becouse I usually have a 2 smartphones (becouse second is reducent. If one lost a level of charge, or be blocked becouse minus financial balance), second is a Galaxy S2 with cyanogenomod, and I too have a reader with elink19:04
shaggycatKotCzarny, which reader are you use?19:04
KotCzarnykyobo (android unlocked)19:04
KotCzarnyas for the charge, you can get powerbank19:05
shaggycatKotCzarny, I use Nook Simple Touch. Also non-offical android. I use it now to read english books and translation words by touchscreen. Unfortunately, my English can't be better for many years :( It is pre-intermidiate level for last 3 years.19:06
shaggycatKotCzarny, Are you native speaker?19:07
KotCzarnyi'm from .pl, but i know english quite well19:07
KotCzarnylearned it from videogames when i was young :P19:07
shaggycatKotCzarny, do you read a English books? Or you read polish?19:07
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shaggycatKotCzarny, great19:08
shaggycatKotCzarny, Jolla never freezes like N900. On AJAX sites too19:10
shaggycatand, It works faster then my second phone, Samsung Galaxy S2 with also 2 cores19:11
KotCzarnyn900 is old, even in 2009 it was a bit on the slower side19:11
KotCzarnyn900 only has 1 core19:11
shaggycatbecouse android is too stupid (4.3 too stupid. May be lolipop better)19:11
chem|stxes: shaggycat needs to have unblocked from tmo19:25
infobotchem|st: :)19:26
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KotCzarnychemist: read the scrollback19:32
infobothold 'shift' and touch 'page up'19:35
KotCzarnyfor irc apps it's usually 'page up' alone19:35
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chem|stKotCzarny: I got an email, just doing waht I am asked for19:44
KotCzarnyin short, that ip is reported attack site19:45
chem|stKotCzarny: reported?19:45
chem|stxes: nevermind then19:47
chem|streported today I read19:47
KotCzarnyand in the past19:47
KotCzarnyshaggycat might be ok, but that ip is shared for their whole office19:48
KotCzarnyand someone there isnt ok19:48
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keriorip shaggycat19:50
kerioyou will be missed19:50
DocScrutinizer05((<KotCzarny> n900 only has 1 core)) not as if cores ever were the bottleneck20:00
KotCzarnydoc, sure, but having 2 would help with stupid websites20:00
DocScrutinizer05particularly not NUMBER of cores20:00
KotCzarnyand for general system smoothness20:01
DocScrutinizer05unless your browser is smart enough to parallelize rendering, which is not warranted even on up-to-date browsers20:01
KotCzarnydoc, while you are there, do you know what causes playback glitch on window operations and on screen blank/unblank?20:02
shaggycatkerio, I back20:02
DocScrutinizer05KotCzarny: sorry, nope20:02
DocScrutinizer05prolly you're using too app process centric buffering of audio20:02
KotCzarnydoc, but gstreamer has the same problem too20:02
KotCzarnyand its not buffering, i've set 2000ms buffer and it still glitches20:03
DocScrutinizer05if in doubt, blame Pukeaudio20:03
KotCzarnysure, but system media player/omp uses pa too, and doesnt have this glitch20:04
KotCzarnywell, they use mafw, but it goes to pa too20:04
DocScrutinizer05err wait, do you have system sounds enabled?20:04
KotCzarnynone that i know of20:04
DocScrutinizer05set system sounds and touch sounds to off20:05
KotCzarnyi have it that way already20:05
DocScrutinizer05try audio policy multimedia or gaming or whatever the high priority profiles20:06
DocScrutinizer05I seem to recall this problem appeared often when audio playback apps didn't use correct audio profile, so system sounds would actually override and thus interrupt the app20:08
KotCzarnybut it happens intermittently20:08
KotCzarnysometimes it goes blank without glitch20:08
KotCzarnygotta check that audioprofile thing first tho20:09
DocScrutinizer05yeah, it's a sort of race condition20:09
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KotCzarnystupid question, how do i set the policy?20:11
KotCzarnyim using
KotCzarnyis it the stream_name ?20:12
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DocScrutinizer05sorry no clue20:15
KotCzarnyanyway, thanks for the hint20:16
DocScrutinizer05there's a file *somewhere* that defines process names and audio plicies to enable when that process is running20:16
DocScrutinizer05I just serched /etc but didn't find it, prolly it's in /usr/share/alsa or pulse/ or OHM/ or dunnowhere20:17
KotCzarnysoftware development is like an adventure game20:17
KotCzarnyyou try everything everywhere until it wokr20:18
KotCzarny /etc/pulse/xpolicy.conf probably20:19
bencohyeah, xpolicy20:20
KotCzarnysetting group to 'systemsound' didnt work20:24
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KotCzarnynor 'player'20:25
bencohI told you already, but I dont think the issue is with audio :)20:26
KotCzarnybencoh: i've tried setting that atom, and it didnt help20:26
bencohKotCzarny: but you shouldnt be bothered by notifications when playing a video :)20:27
KotCzarnyoscp is mainly background audio player20:27
KotCzarnyvidplay is just unexpected bonus ;)20:27
bencohdoes it click when playing audio only ?20:27
bencohdo you actually have a window with audio-only medias ?20:28
bencohI thought you had a deported interface20:28
KotCzarnynope, but for setting atom i opened x connection and created dummy window20:28
infobotbencoh meant: I thought you had a remote interface20:28
KotCzarnyjust for testing the idea, core is console only20:29
bencohthen it's not what I think (at all) :)20:30
KotCzarnystill, im open to any idea/hint20:31
KotCzarnyis there some way to monitor pulseaudio events?20:31
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DocScrutinizer05I'd rather start monitoring X signals/msgs on your app's input, and even fake them and see if that triggers the problem20:43
KotCzarnyits a console app20:45
DocScrutinizer05then PolypAudio is the only thing that comes to mind20:54
DocScrutinizer05or... some "leete tweks" you did to your maemo system. Like messing with cpufreq-governor or dunno what20:55
KotCzarnyno, its not only me20:55
KotCzarnybencoh has it too, and qmlradio developer20:55
KotCzarnygst-launch-1.0 filesrc location=/some/file.mp3 ! decodebin ! pulsesink20:55
KotCzarnytry for yourself20:55
KotCzarnythen blank/unblank screen few times or switch windows around (open/close)20:56
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KotCzarny(  48.479|   5.002) D: voice-temperature.c: Ambient temperature updated: 3121:18
KotCzarny(  48.480|   0.001) D: voice-temperature.c: Temperature read timer started: 5000000 us21:18
KotCzarny(  48.662|   0.182) D: protocol-native.c: Underrun on ''NTranceFeatRodStewart' by 'DaYaThinkImSexy'', 0 bytes in queue.21:18
KotCzarny(  48.933|   0.270) D: protocol-native.c: Requesting rewind due to rewrite.21:18
KotCzarnythe fuck?21:18
KotCzarny(  92.332|   0.001) D: protocol-native.c: Requesting rewind due to rewrite.21:18
KotCzarny(  92.884|   0.551) D: protocol-native.c: Underrun on ''NTranceFeatRodStewart' by 'DaYaThinkImSexy'', 0 bytes in queue.21:18
KotCzarny(  93.227|   0.342) D: protocol-native.c: Requesting rewind due to rewrite.21:18
KotCzarnythat's when the glitch occurs21:19
KotCzarnybut still no clue what is the reason of the underrun21:19
KotCzarny( 289.375|   3.930) D: voice-temperature.c: Xprot inactive, shutting down.21:22
R0b0t1<KotCzarny> (  48.662|   0.182) D: protocol-native.c: Underrun on ''NTranceFeatRodStewart' by 'DaYaThinkImSexy'', 0 bytes in queue.21:28
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KotCzarny( 885.146|   0.001) D: classify.c: find_group_for_client (oscp|Multimedia|7454|0|oscp) => othermedia21:33
KotCzarnyhmm, can't set group in pa21:45
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DocScrutinizer05reason for underrun is always the same: the app providing the samples didn't provide them in time21:47
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KotCzarnydoc, but it happens with mplayer and gst and many other apps21:47
DocScrutinizer05what can I say?21:48
KotCzarnyis gstreamer cssu maintained?21:48
DocScrutinizer05obviously some task with higher priority blocks the apps long enough so a buffer underun happens21:49
DocScrutinizer05first cure: use larger buffers, use more buffers21:50
DocScrutinizer05what did you say was the buffersize you used?21:51
KotCzarnyadding pa buffer code, earlier i've set wrong code branch21:52
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