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| Luke-Jr | why does Linux say N900 only has 229 MB of RAM anyway? | 05:01 |
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| Luke-Jr | GPU? Can that be reduced? | 05:01 |
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| jkepler | Hello, I’m trying to install advancedcaching on my N900. I need to install the missing application package, libxslt1.1 — does anyone know where I could download that package? | 05:54 |
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| Luke-Jr | freemangordon: hey, * 01d2960 Fixed bug when device restarts instead of shutdown when a charger is attached | 07:23 |
| Luke-Jr | was that actually a bug? don't we need to restart for the charger to actually work? | 07:23 |
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| Alphadog | ~speedyham | 11:00 |
| infobot | methinks speedyham is 30 times faster than HAM http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb | 11:00 |
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| proycon | How do I compile a project for N900 from a deployment.pri? | 13:26 |
| proycon | I assume that's the Makefile equivalent? | 13:26 |
| proycon | ah no, there's a .pro file too | 13:29 |
| proycon | ah, qmake | 13:32 |
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| jkepler | Hello, I’m trying to install advancedcaching on my N900. I need to install the missing application package, libxslt1.1 — does anyone know where I could download that package? | 22:37 |
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| KotCzarny | jkepler: it looks like its in sdk repo | 22:44 |
| KotCzarny | also in extras | 22:44 |
| KotCzarny | so just enable extras | 22:44 |
| KotCzarny | though its only libxlst1-dev | 22:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | KotCzarny: (s)he's gone | 22:46 |
| KotCzarny | shucks | 22:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [2015-07-25 Sat 21:37:30] <jkepler> Hello, I’m trying --- [2015-07-25 Sat 21:40:21] <-- jkepler (~joel@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/jkepler) has left this server | 22:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ERRYES | 22:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | LRN2IRC!!1!1!! | 22:47 |
| KotCzarny | life | 22:47 |
| KotCzarny | toomanychannelsinonewindow | 22:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | -EADHS | 22:48 |
| KotCzarny | but its weird that extras has only libxslt-dev and not actual lib | 22:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hm | 22:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | depends on whether that's a linked lib or a .so lib | 22:49 |
| KotCzarny | too lazy to check | 22:49 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 too | 22:49 | |
| KotCzarny | i would simply install deb from sdk repo | 22:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 22:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~debian jkepler | 22:50 |
| * infobot tells jkepler to RTFM!!!! GAH!!! HELL FIRE AND BRIMSTONE!!!! BURN!!! DIE!!! MWAHAHAHAHA!!!! | 22:50 | |
| KotCzarny | isnt that a bit on the offensive side? | 22:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ok | 22:51 |
| Pali | there was lot of libraries in Nokia SSU repo | 22:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~ubuntu jkepler | 22:51 |
| * infobot lovingly explains to jkepler in a way that causes jkepler to weep with gratitude that jkepler must read the fine, friendly manual | 22:51 | |
| Pali | and all those packages are now missing... | 22:51 |
| KotCzarny | ~slackware jkepler | 22:51 |
| KotCzarny | bummer | 22:51 |
| KotCzarny | though it was slacky way to process | 22:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: nobody mirrored that friggin repo? | 22:52 |
| Pali | I'm for uploading all those open source packages to maemo extras which were previously in nokia repo | 22:52 |
| Pali | DocScrutinizer05: I have mirror | 22:52 |
| Pali | and I believe other people did it too | 22:53 |
| KotCzarny | um, why not just up it to muarf ? | 22:53 |
| Pali | https://wiki.maemo.org/Apt-mirror | 22:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | acki | 22:53 |
| Pali | wiki page how to setup mirrors is old | 22:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it never been meant to nokia repos ;-P | 22:53 |
| KotCzarny | instead of extras, just name a repo nokia-ssu ? | 22:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though it was pretty easy to find out about the "sekrit key" inb URL | 22:54 |
| Pali | problem is that any extras package can depend on package in nokia-ssu repo | 22:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 22:54 |
| Pali | so I'm for moving all those packages which was in nokia-ssu to maemo extras | 22:54 |
| KotCzarny | but it will become unmaintained | 22:54 |
| KotCzarny | and people wouldnt be able to overwrite it with extras | 22:55 |
| Pali | so maemo extras will not have non existant dependences | 22:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: could we get a special category like "heritage" in extras? | 22:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rather 'legacy' | 22:58 |
| Pali | DocScrutinizer05: we need to put all those packages into repository which is already enabled by users | 22:59 |
| Pali | so only normal extras is possible | 22:59 |
| Pali | when you enable *only* extras in HAM, you should be able to install any extras package | 22:59 |
| Pali | so all dependneces should be in extras, there is no other way | 22:59 |
| Pali | before those dependences were also in nokia-ssu | 23:00 |
| Pali | and we need to load binary DEB packages, *not* rebuilding them from sources | 23:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: "normal extras" has categories | 23:01 |
| Pali | because we need same md5sums | 23:01 |
| Pali | DocScrutinizer05: do you mean HAM categories? | 23:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 23:01 |
| Pali | HAM categories is just Section of deb package | 23:02 |
| Pali | and every package which do not have "user/*" in Section is hidden in HAm | 23:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's the plan | 23:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hide them in extras | 23:02 |
| Pali | moving package from one repository to another does not change Section | 23:02 |
| Pali | for HAM it is still same package | 23:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, which section are they now? | 23:03 |
| Pali | depends on package | 23:03 |
| Pali | but again, "moving package from one repository to another does not change Section" | 23:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I understood that | 23:03 |
| Pali | so if it was hidden in HAM when nokia-ssu worked | 23:03 |
| Pali | it will be hidden after moving to extras too | 23:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | should work | 23:04 |
| KotCzarny | what if someone create package in extras-devel with the same name? | 23:04 |
| KotCzarny | *creates | 23:04 |
| KotCzarny | or if there is already same name package in -devel | 23:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then you worst case run into the age old "somebody uploaded a broken new package to extras-devel" issue | 23:06 |
| KotCzarny | i mean, could extras-devel be promoted and overshadow extras one? | 23:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | extras-devel is NOT supposed to be used for indiscriminate upgrades | 23:07 |
| KotCzarny | no, i mean if it goes through promotion | 23:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then it's tested and considered OK and everything fine | 23:08 |
| KotCzarny | works for me then | 23:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | we already had it a few times that somebody uploaded a lib to devel and promoted it via testing to extras vanilla, and it turned out that lib fux0red everything. Some X11 lib comes to mind | 23:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also some Qt stuff | 23:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | actually when there's no package (with maintainer) in extras-devel, then we might run into that trouble more frequently when simply injecting a lot of stuff into extras vanilla and ignoring *-testing/devel | 23:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | $random-hacker could upload a package of same name but newer version to extras-devel | 23:13 |
| Pali | there is no security in fremantle like in harmattan (aegis) | 23:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there however is a rather reasonable QA | 23:14 |
| Pali | hm... now when nokia-ssu is down, n9/n950 probably not working anymore | 23:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and module responsibility rules based on maintainership | 23:14 |
| KotCzarny | and if someone uses n900 then has to know what goes on | 23:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | with that argument you could say anybody needing SSU packages has to add a repo to list | 23:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I wouldn't want to see everybody with _no_ clue what's going on getting pwnd by rogue or broken packages propagating to his device via extras, to replace core Nokia repo packages | 23:17 |
| Pali | DocScrutinizer05: spi bus for n900 in upstream kernel was fixed... there was some power management problem | 23:17 |
| Pali | it was off before init | 23:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | toldya | 23:18 |
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