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| ZetaR | There is a bug with optifying claws-mail-pgp-plugins on the N900. It ends up moving the file to /opt, creating a link to it, and then at some point the original file gets replaced with a circular link to itself. | 00:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ouch | 00:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | excellent spotting | 00:51 |
| ZetaR | It looks like it installs the files to /opt properly, and then in post install replaces them with symbolic links pointing to where it just installed them. It will probably work fine if the post-install optify is removed. | 00:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep, optifying stuff in /opt is contraproductive | 00:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | probably they ran optify on the build before packaging it, incl the optify hook | 00:57 |
| ZetaR | In the post-install it says before the optify function "# Added by maemo-optify, with apologies.", so it looks like it was added after. | 00:58 |
| ZetaR | If it was auto-added to a bunch of packages, it should probably include a check to make sure it isn't creating symbolic links for a file which is already getting installed to /opt | 00:59 |
| ZetaR | This might not be the only package that is broken this way. | 01:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I dunno if it's auto-added or that's an option you hand to the builder | 01:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I rather guess the latter | 01:01 |
| ZetaR | Your guess is better than mine; I don't really know much about the package install process. | 01:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you prepare some file that has a number of info about author, package name, package icon, description, and prolly also whether to run optify on it or not | 01:04 |
| ZetaR | Well, I dissected the package and didn't find anything pertaining to it other than a defined optify function in the "postinst" file. | 01:06 |
| ZetaR | Should I contact the maintainer, or does someone here have the ability to fix the package? | 01:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | /debian/control | 01:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | prolly is that file | 01:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | only maintainer may fix a package | 01:10 |
| ZetaR | I don't see anything in it that mentions /opt or optify, unless you count "Priority: optional". | 01:10 |
| ZetaR | Okay. I will send the maintainer an email. | 01:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ugh /debian/rules | 01:11 |
| ZetaR | No /debian/rules file in the package. Only ones are the installed files, and control, md5sums, and postinst. | 01:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure, in the package are not instructions how to build the üackage | 01:14 |
| KotCzarny | but he wonders how it can be possible that it mangles on install | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | starhash-enabler-for assistent-upload.tar.bz2/utar://starhash-enabler_0.1.tar.gz/utar://starhash-enabler/debian/rules | 01:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | KotCzarny: because it's optified twice, once pre-build and once at install-time | 01:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the install-time optification seems to be auto-added by autobuilder to the postinst file, according to instructions given to the autobuilder in one of the files I mentioned above | 01:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | actually install-time optification is preferable over build-time optification since it allows easy deoptification on devices that have a different partitioning scheme | 01:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though I guess the main reason been to allow optification of already installed packages from pre-optification (PR1.1) times | 01:24 |
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| ZetaR | Though, it will make install fail if you don't have much space on /. And you end up writing to the NAND unnecessarily. | 01:28 |
| ZetaR | Email sent to maintainer. | 01:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | for a temporary "fix" rename the on-device optify function that's called in postinst and instead have an empty (only shebang) shellscript named like the optify function | 01:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | before installing | 01:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm doing same with docpurge permanently | 01:33 |
| ZetaR | Since there are only a few files, I will probably just move the files to their proper location manually rather than repackaging the deb file. | 01:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | who said repackaging? | 01:35 |
| ZetaR | I mean editing it as an archive. | 01:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nobody suggested that either | 01:36 |
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| ZetaR | I don't understand your suggestion then. Why would I edit postinst if I am not going to use it as a deb file? | 01:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or is optify literally a function() in postinst, rather than a executable called by postinst? | 01:37 |
| ZetaR | It is literally a function(). | 01:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | duh, crap | 01:38 |
| ZetaR | It is also the only thing in postinst, so I don't really need it. | 01:38 |
| gregoa | echo auto >> debian/optify | 01:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I thought it calls sth like /usr/sbin/maemo-optify-lib.sh | 01:39 |
| gregoa | (in the source package) | 01:39 |
| ZetaR | Nope, it doesn't call anything except standard POSIX stuff. | 01:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | gregoa: it double-optifies, rendering the /opt/*/* files as links pointing to themselves | 01:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | gregoa: so rather rm debian/optify, but prior to upload to autobuilder | 01:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I guess... | 01:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or remove the line "echo auto >> debian/optify" from some file | 01:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | meh, no idea, I never looked into all that | 01:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ZetaR: anyway then the easiest fix is prolly to extract the files missing in /opt (resp that got replaced by auto referential links) from claws.deb with mc and copy them to where they belong to | 01:49 |
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| ZetaR | Right, that is what I am doing now. | 01:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | (cd "/" && tar cf - "$f") | (cd "/opt/maemo/" && tar xf -); ln -s "/opt/maemo/$f" "/$f" | 01:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmmmm | 01:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | where $f = $1 | 01:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | in postinst. That's pretty weird, I don't think postinst gets called for each file of a package | 01:58 |
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| ZetaR | It is a function with no call to it in postinst. | 01:59 |
| ZetaR | So it only defines optify() | 01:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | oooh even weirder | 01:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so wtf? | 01:59 |
| ZetaR | I have no idea. | 01:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | gregoa: http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/c/claws-mail/claws-mail-pgp-plugins_3.7.3-1maemo4_armel.deb | 02:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | gregoa: any idea? | 02:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's already "optified" in package: http://wstaw.org/m/2015/07/23/plasma-desktopal1947.png | 02:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | who the fuck calls a function optify () {...} in postinstall? | 02:12 |
| KotCzarny | clueless people? | 02:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no | 02:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | people can't call functions, programs call functions | 02:13 |
| KotCzarny | indirectly | 02:13 |
| ZetaR | Lol. | 02:14 |
| KotCzarny | also, who asks for person | 02:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I mean, dpkg calls postinst I'd guess. But how would dpkg have an idea of a function named optify() ? | 02:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I thought dpkg calls postinst as a shellscript and that's it | 02:15 |
| ZetaR | "The maemo-optify tool helps developers to prepare Debian packages that use /opt. This tool moves selected files inside the package to locations under /opt, and will symbolically link from the original location to the new place of the file. It is available on gitorious as well as in Extras-devel" From https://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Packaging,_Deploying_and_Distributing/Installing_under_opt_and_MyDocs | 02:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah | 02:16 |
| ZetaR | It says in postinst that optify() : "# Added by maemo-optify, with apologies." | 02:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | never thought they patched dpkg to add optify | 02:16 |
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| ZetaR | Seems to be working after moving files around. | 02:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ | 02:29 |
| ZetaR | I haven't tested it yet, but I will work on that next. | 02:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm even more puzzled since the dang function starts with a "if [ -h $f ]" | 02:30 |
| ZetaR | You missed a "!". | 02:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, meant that | 02:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it shpouldn't touch the symlinks anyway | 02:30 |
| ZetaR | So it only moves it around if it exists and is not a symbolic link. | 02:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2015/07/23/plasma-desktopfM1947.png | 02:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so who the heck is ruining that package? | 02:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | after installation | 02:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and how? | 02:32 |
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| KotCzarny | does apt have logging function? | 02:32 |
| ZetaR | There is this weird file: "/var/log/maemo-optify-boottime.log" | 02:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the function supposed to work on dirs? | 02:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if [ -d "/$f" ] | 02:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | in package the files are symlinked, not the complete dir | 02:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2015/07/23/plasma-desktopal1947.png | 02:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this is the root cause of the problem, the devel symlinked the files, then optify rushing over it and copying&symlinking the complete dir | 02:48 |
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| KotCzarny | so, optify fail? | 02:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | incl the symlinks in that dir | 02:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no, packager/developer fail | 02:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or optify actually been added to the package later on, by somebody who had no clue that it's not applicable to that particular package | 02:50 |
| KotCzarny | hmm, i think i did the same, but without adding optify | 02:51 |
| ZetaR | It sounds like it was added, because there is actually a comment about it being added. | 02:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe the package is pre-optification time | 02:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ZetaR: yes, I guess autobuilder adds that comment to every optified package | 02:51 |
| KotCzarny | and it didnt behave like this | 02:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the question is who instructed autobuilder to optify that package | 02:52 |
| KotCzarny | mine is in non-free, to autobuilder didnt f*ck up mine | 02:52 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 02:52 |
| KotCzarny | s/to /so / | 02:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | if this package is from pre-optify times back when PR1.0 was recent OS version, I could see somebody adding a tag "optify please" to *all* packages in repo when they introduced optification in PR1.1 or PR1.1.1 or PR1.2 | 02:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not realizing that this particular package already had its own "optification" implemented | 02:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, mystery 7/8 solved | 02:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the remaining 1/8 I tend to blame to maem flavor of apt | 02:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | would be interesting to check if dpkg also does that optify() call | 02:58 |
| ZetaR | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7707 | 02:58 |
| povbot | Bug 7707: maemo-optify-deb produces recursive symlink for plugins in derivative packages | 02:58 |
| ZetaR | Claws-mail plugins are named as an example of this bug | 02:59 |
| ZetaR | Also, manually unpacking and copying the files is the recommended work around since 2010. | 03:01 |
| KotCzarny | one could say this package is unmaintained | 03:02 |
| ZetaR | BBL folks. I hope this doesn't take another 5 years to get sorted out. :P | 03:04 |
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| KotCzarny | find a maintainer | 03:04 |
| KotCzarny | otherwise no one would fix it | 03:05 |
| KotCzarny | (people are lazy) | 03:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ZetaR: (bug7707) yeah and Package importedSystem2010-01-02 05:23 UTC for claws | 03:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the fix is to build it anew with fixed maemo-optify-deb | 03:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's a package zombie from maemo pleozaen | 03:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ohmy, the last 4 or 5 comments on 7707 are so depressing | 03:19 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 03:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: could you check what version of maemo-optify-deb (or whatever the name) is used on autobuilder? | 03:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | seems Marius Vollmer https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7707#c17 dropped the ball | 03:22 |
| povbot | Bug 7707: maemo-optify-deb produces recursive symlink for plugins in derivative packages | 03:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | actually wtf is wrong with http://maemo.org/packages/view/conboy/ repo? check 0.7.0 vs 0.4.0 and "latest version" for fremantle | 03:27 |
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| n7903 | hi | 08:26 |
| n7903 | peo | 08:26 |
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| Fiorenza | ~flashing | 10:07 |
| infobot | i guess maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh | 10:07 |
| Fiorenza | Hi, cannot find the file maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz | 10:14 |
| Fiorenza | Where can I download it, please ? | 10:15 |
| Fiorenza | ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher sdk | 10:16 |
| Fiorenza | ~tabletsdev | 10:16 |
| infobot | i guess tabletsdev is http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/ http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev , http://tabletsdev.maemo.org (all defunct, thanks Nokia) or the nice site http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/, or http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/93.81.63.203/repositories/skeiron.org/skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads | 10:16 |
| KotCzarny | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/ | 10:16 |
| KotCzarny | try this way | 10:16 |
| Fiorenza | it works, thanks ! | 10:17 |
| Fiorenza | Is there another O.S. I can install on my N900 ? | 10:17 |
| KotCzarny | depends | 10:17 |
| Fiorenza | Someone has tried Firefox OS ? | 10:17 |
| KotCzarny | do you need all functionalities? | 10:17 |
| KotCzarny | like phone etc | 10:17 |
| KotCzarny | if you only need wifi, then yes, there are choices | 10:18 |
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| KotCzarny | otherwise you are stuck to fremantle (and to some extent chroot based distros) | 10:19 |
| Fiorenza | I need to phone, whatsapp, calendar, address book | 10:19 |
| Fiorenza | How does flash-it-all.sh work ? I connect my N900 via USB to my Linux PC and then I run the script ? | 10:23 |
| KotCzarny | open it in some editor? maybe there are comments inside | 10:24 |
| KotCzarny | or some readme in the package | 10:24 |
| Fiorenza | Ok, I'm looking it. | 10:24 |
| KotCzarny | but i guess you just start it and read what it says | 10:24 |
| KotCzarny | it was meant to flash many n900 with as little user inteaction as possible | 10:24 |
| Fiorenza | Yes, I'm reading the script: it tell when I have to remove the battery and what should I do. | 10:27 |
| Fiorenza | Ok. Thanks. If I cannot resolve my whatsapp problem with Yappari, I'll have to buy a new phone, so I can use N900 as a tablet: so, what OS can I install ? | 10:29 |
| KotCzarny | for yappari then just update to newest version | 10:29 |
| KotCzarny | it was changing much lately | 10:29 |
| Fiorenza | I just did it, but I don't receive messages from other, while I can send. | 10:30 |
| KotCzarny | and you can write to yappari developer (either via talk.maemo.org page about your problem or here on irc 'ceene') | 10:30 |
| KotCzarny | what version do you have? | 10:30 |
| Fiorenza | It is strange, but I receive the messages of the group | 10:30 |
| Fiorenza | I have the latest version of Yappari: 2.0.15 | 10:31 |
| Fiorenza | But I installed a patch on my N900 to resolve the problem of Gmail: I cannot read messages any more | 10:31 |
| Fiorenza | So I wanted to reset N900 to have a clean behaviour...maybe it is the problem. | 10:32 |
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| bencoh | the latest yappari version might still be in -devel | 10:45 |
| bencoh | hm, nevermind, promoted in -testing | 10:45 |
| Fiorenza | It is 2.0.15 version ? | 10:46 |
| bencoh | looks like it is http://maemo.org/packages/view/yappari/ | 10:48 |
| Fiorenza | In fact. I think it is my N900 problem, probably I installed something wrong. For this I want to reflash it and install new version of Yappari. | 10:50 |
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| Fiorenza | ~flasher | 11:16 |
| infobot | rumour has it, flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ | 11:16 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | KotCzarny: Re: no access to m.o, was a router glitch in the end BTW, just rebooted. | 11:25 |
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| KotCzarny | :) | 11:25 |
| sixwheeledbeast | jabber stopped working and then more ports stopped working slowly. | 11:26 |
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| ceene | Fiorenza: which patch is that for gmail that you installed? | 13:20 |
| ceene | i don't see how can that affect to yappari | 13:20 |
| ceene | ~repos | 13:31 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, repos is deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./ | 13:31 |
| KotCzarny | ~maemo-repos | 13:31 |
| infobot | [maemo-repos] http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories | 13:31 |
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| ceene | cool, thanks | 13:33 |
| ceene | i'm going to post there my mirror :) | 13:33 |
| KotCzarny | add proper comments | 13:34 |
| KotCzarny | hmm, someone duplicated muarf entry | 13:35 |
| KotCzarny | ahm, its for app manager | 13:35 |
| bencoh | "slow, but better than nothing" is it that slow ? | 13:35 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh: you've said it i think | 13:35 |
| bencoh | I said it was slow ? | 13:35 |
| KotCzarny | i mioght be wrong, my memory is flunky sometimes | 13:36 |
| bencoh | it's hosted behind FTTH at 100mbps | 13:36 |
| KotCzarny | no limiting? | 13:36 |
| bencoh | that should be way more than any n900 could ever need :p | 13:36 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 13:37 |
| KotCzarny | some people use wget -r etc | 13:37 |
| bencoh | no rate-limit no | 13:37 |
| KotCzarny | i can remove that comment | 13:37 |
| ceene | i'm editing it right now to add my repos | 13:37 |
| ceene | so i can remove that comment myself | 13:38 |
| bencoh | I don't really mind it, but I was just wondering whether someone experienced some issue | 13:38 |
| KotCzarny | ceene, just remove comment about being slow | 13:38 |
| KotCzarny | leave the rest | 13:38 |
| ceene | ok | 13:38 |
| KotCzarny | unless muarf gets the 'official' status | 13:38 |
| bencoh | it wont :) | 13:39 |
| ceene | http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#fremantle_repos_.28copy.26paste_sources.list.29 | 13:39 |
| ceene | there :) | 13:39 |
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| KotCzarny | :) | 13:42 |
| ceene | it's hosted on the university | 13:43 |
| ceene | i don't know which connection we have here | 13:43 |
| ceene | but i'm sure it's fast enough | 13:43 |
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| KotCzarny | i wouldnt mind if you guys added n8x0 repos too, at least for diablo | 13:46 |
| bencoh | unfortunately I never mirrored it | 13:46 |
| ceene | it was http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/? | 13:47 |
| ceene | i didn't mirror it neither :( | 13:47 |
| bencoh | wonder if there is some mirror out there | 13:47 |
| bencoh | maybe someone has an offline copy | 13:48 |
| ceene | if it appears i wouldn't mind hosting it too | 13:48 |
| bencoh | same | 13:49 |
| KotCzarny | i have a mirror of chinook and part of diablo | 13:51 |
| KotCzarny | mirrored it when before diablo came out | 13:52 |
| ceene | if you want to upload it i can set something up | 13:53 |
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| KotCzarny | will get around it later | 14:07 |
| KotCzarny | luckily its mostly unneeded stuff | 14:08 |
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| KotCzarny | but having firmware images handy is ncie | 14:08 |
| KotCzarny | *nice | 14:08 |
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| shaggycat | Hi all | 15:52 |
| shaggycat | I have a problem: Sorry, it seems that you are using an IP address or a proxy that is listed in the forum anti spam blacklist. Feel free to contact our staff on irc freenode #maemo channel. | 15:52 |
| shaggycat | 77.246.99.70 | 15:52 |
| shaggycat | Also I try to use tor for read forum, and also can't :( | 15:53 |
| shaggycat | Please delist my office IP address | 15:53 |
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| bencoh | xes: ^ | 15:55 |
| warfare | I could do something about it but I don't have the right ssh keys on my work machine. | 15:56 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | that IP has been used for brute force attacks in the past according to search engines | 16:15 |
| KotCzarny | bad office, bad! | 16:15 |
| L29Ah | good tmo, good! | 16:17 |
| KotCzarny | yeah, google says this ip has some bad people behind | 16:25 |
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| KotCzarny | hmm | 16:33 |
| KotCzarny | how come i see powertop reporting 1150mhz while i have max set to 500? | 16:33 |
| ShadowJK | powertop doesn't work with kernel power | 16:34 |
| bencoh | hmmm ... which part of doesnt work ? | 16:35 |
| ShadowJK | frequencies | 16:36 |
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| KotCzarny | could be just cosmetic, because time_in_state shows ok | 16:41 |
| KotCzarny | though otoh it doesnt enter 125mhz, hmm | 16:41 |
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| KotCzarny | hmm, anyone got a clue why non mafw apps get interrupted on events like window change, blank/unblank etc? omp seems to be unaffected, anything else (panucci, oscp, mplayer) does | 17:00 |
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| KotCzarny | bah, even gstreamer | 17:04 |
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| ShadowJK | 125MHz is broken, iirc. | 17:13 |
| KotCzarny | for now it's as broken as 'not using it at all by cpufreq' | 17:14 |
| ShadowJK | 125 MHz has nevee been used by N900 | 17:15 |
| KotCzarny | i remember some people saying that they've used it. were they misinformed? | 17:15 |
| ShadowJK | They might've tried to use it, yeah | 17:15 |
| ShadowJK | I remember it said it's unstable | 17:16 |
| KotCzarny | for me it's just not entering it at all, even with setting scaling_min_freq ok. was it some patch in kernelpower? | 17:17 |
| ShadowJK | could be. freemangordon might know | 17:18 |
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| bencoh | KotCzarny: changing window doesnt stop/pause gst-launch here, but I can see a glitch | 17:24 |
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| bencoh | I think it does something with the video surface | 17:24 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh, i don't mean 'stop', but 'click' | 17:24 |
| bencoh | then I've experienced that as well under some conditions, yeah | 17:25 |
| KotCzarny | funny thing is that system media player is unaffected | 17:25 |
| bencoh | (and I still think it's related to the way surfaces are handled) | 17:25 |
| bencoh | hmm, iirc system media player pauses when switching window | 17:25 |
| KotCzarny | try omp | 17:26 |
| bencoh | oh, omp | 17:26 |
| bencoh | what about cutetube ? | 17:26 |
| KotCzarny | didnt try as i dont use it | 17:27 |
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| KotCzarny | bencoh, it somehow boils down to find out what tricks mafw uses | 17:45 |
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| L29Ah | KotCzarny: renice? | 19:19 |
| L29Ah | i suggest cute gui animations are niced so a user won't scream that n900 is slow in blogs scaring nokia customers away | 19:20 |
| bencoh | what do you want to renice ? | 19:20 |
| KotCzarny | l29ah: nope | 19:21 |
| KotCzarny | it's something at system level, maybe pulseaudio | 19:21 |
| KotCzarny | renicing doesnt do a thing | 19:21 |
| KotCzarny | and its not cpu starvage | 19:21 |
| KotCzarny | as i can do some cpu intensive ops without glitches | 19:21 |
| L29Ah | rtprio? | 19:22 |
| KotCzarny | just do the test and run mplayer | 19:22 |
| KotCzarny | then just blank/unblank screen | 19:22 |
| KotCzarny | or switch windows | 19:22 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: I dont think it's pulseaudio but a change in the video sink (probably the underlying surface) and audio/video sync is responsible for the audio "click" | 19:23 |
| KotCzarny | no, its just as if audio thread was blocked for some time | 19:24 |
| KotCzarny | sometime short, sometimes a bit longer | 19:24 |
| KotCzarny | but never happens for mafw (omp) | 19:24 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | KotCzarny: I use 125Mhz with no noticeable issues | 19:39 |
| L29Ah | so? | 19:40 |
| sixwheeledbeast | 125Mhz-600Mhz SR | 19:40 |
| KotCzarny | swb: problem is i can set 125 as min, but kernel doesnt go there | 19:40 |
| sixwheeledbeast | avoid_frequencies setting in kp | 19:41 |
| KotCzarny | hmm | 19:41 |
| KotCzarny | where to find it in /sys/ ? | 19:41 |
| sixwheeledbeast | 125000 is set as avoid you have to remove this | 19:41 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I find it | 19:41 |
| sixwheeledbeast | momplz | 19:41 |
| KotCzarny | /sys/./devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ondemand/avoid_frequencies | 19:42 |
| sixwheeledbeast | yep | 19:43 |
| KotCzarny | so, i just echo "" into the file | 19:43 |
| sixwheeledbeast | echo > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ondemand/avoid_frequencies | 19:43 |
| KotCzarny | we shall see | 19:43 |
| sixwheeledbeast | also I use with echo 1 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ondemand/ignore_nice_load | 19:44 |
| KotCzarny | that mean everything >0 ? | 19:44 |
| KotCzarny | or >=0 | 19:44 |
| sixwheeledbeast | blank, so removes content | 19:45 |
| KotCzarny | i mean, when set to 1, which priorities are ignored | 19:46 |
| sixwheeledbeast | oh | 19:46 |
| sixwheeledbeast | not sure I remember it being a "thing" for running 125 sucessfully. | 19:48 |
| KotCzarny | uhum | 19:48 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: it is "blocked" because it needs to be kept in sync with video | 19:51 |
| bencoh | afaiu | 19:52 |
| bencoh | I havent really investigated much into this | 19:52 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh, but omp somehow manages it | 19:52 |
| sixwheeledbeast | KotCzarny: " ignore_nice_load > When set to 0, all processes are counted towards the cpu utilization value. When set to 1, the processes that are run with a 'nice' value will not count " | 19:54 |
| KotCzarny | so >0 | 19:54 |
| KotCzarny | because by default you get prio0 | 19:55 |
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| KotCzarny | bencoh: still, solving that mafw audio trick is more important to me | 20:46 |
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| vectis | /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER vectis fufpaedpytki | 21:47 |
| kerio | good job | 21:50 |
| vectis | :D | 21:51 |
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| KotCzarny | :> | 21:52 |
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