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Ponchale | hi | 03:02 |
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Ponchale | people | 03:03 |
Ponchale | hi are you? | 03:03 |
Ponchale | someone connected? | 03:03 |
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n6841 | hola | 03:22 |
veikko | ho :) | 03:34 |
Ponchale | hi veikko | 03:34 |
Ponchale | hi are you man? | 03:34 |
Ponchale | a question you are development? | 03:35 |
veikko | I'm only a hacker | 03:35 |
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Ponchale | ok | 03:37 |
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R0b0t1 | What does the nokia flashing tool do? | 06:26 |
R0b0t1 | Anyone reversed it? | 06:27 |
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kerio | ~0xffff | 07:46 |
infobot | 0xffff is probably https://github.com/pali/0xFFFF, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87996 | 07:46 |
kerio | R0b0t1: ^ | 07:46 |
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R0b0t1 | yas | 07:53 |
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Alphadog | Yesterday my device bricked. Its battery discharged completely, while I was uninstalling custom kernel, no matter charger was plugged. | 10:42 |
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Alphadog | I got a new battery, but device cannot start any more. Tried to reflash it completely, without success. | 10:43 |
Alphadog | I only see nokia logo on screen, sometimes with led backlit on, sometimes off. | 10:45 |
bencoh | as long as usb works and you didnt overwrite nolo (bootloader) you should be fine | 10:46 |
joga | before trying to turn it on, recharge it for a while, disconnect charger and then turn it on | 10:46 |
Alphadog | I have reflashed it before, with the same image on the same pc with flasher 3.5, and I'm pretty sure i do things right. | 10:46 |
Alphadog | Already tried to recharge it the whole night, before flashing. The battery seems ok. | 10:48 |
bencoh | is the led solid green ? | 10:48 |
Alphadog | It sometimes flashes white, sometimes solid yellow | 10:48 |
bencoh | solid yellow means the chip is charging it slowly with no software support | 10:49 |
bencoh | which usually means it coulnt boot the linux kernel, either because battery is too low, or because it just cant | 10:49 |
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Alphadog | Battery stays about 3,8V loaded with a 300mA load | 10:51 |
bencoh | if your kernel is borked I guess it really cant boot it ... could explain that | 10:52 |
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Alphadog | But why cannot enter the flash mode. | 10:53 |
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Alphadog | Is there a way to flash it anyway. I can even unsolder the flash chip, I think it was toshiba, and program it from the outside | 10:54 |
KotCzarny | no, you should be able to flash over usb | 10:55 |
KotCzarny | its pretty resilient | 10:55 |
Alphadog | Eg with gallep5 programmer | 10:55 |
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KotCzarny | 1/ turn off device and disconnect usb, 2/ run flasher and get 'waiting', 3/ connect device without turning it on | 10:55 |
Alphadog | 3rd step while holding u button | 10:57 |
KotCzarny | doesnt matter | 10:57 |
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Alphadog | I have tried it, with u key. Flasher gives info about hw version and then continue waiting for suitable device. | 10:58 |
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KotCzarny | using linux or windows? | 11:02 |
Alphadog | Im pretty sure i do things ok. I have done the same last week, everything was ok. | 11:02 |
Alphadog | Winxp 32 bit | 11:03 |
KotCzarny | try linux | 11:03 |
Alphadog | I tried first last week, but I got error for ab APE algorithm, then get the job done on my old laptop. | 11:04 |
Alphadog | I use debian testing 64bit | 11:04 |
Alphadog | And flasher 3.5 | 11:06 |
Alphadog | From the debian.org repos | 11:06 |
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KotCzarny | as i said, try linux flashing | 11:09 |
Alphadog | ERROR: APE algorithm has to be provided to flash all the subimages | 11:10 |
Alphadog | But how to resolve this. | 11:10 |
Alphadog | must I download flasher deb package from somewhere else. | 11:11 |
KotCzarny | check if your image is ok | 11:11 |
KotCzarny | ~flasher | 11:11 |
infobot | i heard flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ | 11:11 |
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Alphadog | My image should be ok. The same I used on my laptop. | 11:14 |
bencoh | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75000 ? | 11:14 |
bencoh | are you sure it's flash 3.5 ? | 11:14 |
bencoh | flasher* | 11:14 |
Alphadog | I will try with the jedge version, and tell you later | 11:15 |
KotCzarny | just grab the one from infobot | 11:15 |
Alphadog | Yep, I ve read this already. | 11:15 |
bencoh | the APE error is most likely not related to your device | 11:18 |
Alphadog | As far as Ive read in the net, its some incompability of 32 and 64 linuxes and their libs, but nobody gave solution. | 11:22 |
KotCzarny | run livecd 32bit ? | 11:22 |
bencoh | or try installing 32b libs (multilib install), or run it in a chroot | 11:24 |
bencoh | /32h/32 | 11:26 |
KotCzarny | yeah, if you use flasher designed for harmattan (ie >3.5) it will fail | 11:26 |
Alphadog | I have ubuntu 12.04 32 somewhere, if jedge version fails, I will try it. | 11:35 |
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teotwaki | DocScrutinizer05: hey may | 11:43 |
teotwaki | s/may/man/ | 11:43 |
infobot | teotwaki meant: DocScrutinizer05: hey man | 11:43 |
KotCzarny | may flower | 11:44 |
teotwaki | or james | 11:48 |
teotwaki | Nokia doesn't even provide the flasher for n810/n900 anymore? | 11:49 |
KotCzarny | nope, nor images | 11:49 |
KotCzarny | ~flashing | 11:50 |
infobot | from memory, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh | 11:50 |
teotwaki | who owns maemo.org? | 11:50 |
teotwaki | (the domain) | 11:50 |
bencoh | according to the whoisdb juiceme is the admin contact | 11:52 |
bencoh | and the registrant | 11:53 |
teotwaki | interesting | 11:54 |
teotwaki | Well, thanks Microsoft. You've helped us all. | 11:54 |
KotCzarny | nope, it was pre-microsoft | 11:55 |
teotwaki | KotCzarny: pre-Elop? | 11:57 |
KotCzarny | yeah | 11:58 |
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teotwaki | ok, my bad MS, then. | 12:02 |
teotwaki | Thanks Nokia board, you've helped us all. | 12:02 |
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KotCzarny | i mean, it was migrated in 2013, but i guess it wasnt on elop's 'do or dont list' | 12:20 |
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Alphadog | Found device RX-51, hardware revision 2101 | 12:25 |
Alphadog | NOLO version 1.4.14 | 12:25 |
Alphadog | Version of 'sw-release': <no version> | 12:25 |
Alphadog | Booting device into flash mode. | 12:25 |
Alphadog | Suitable USB device not found, waiting. | 12:25 |
KotCzarny | turn it off, connect usb | 12:25 |
kerio | turn it off, remove battery, connect usb, hold U, put battery in | 12:25 |
Alphadog | Linux debian 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1 (2015-05-24) x86_64 GNU/Linux | 12:27 |
Alphadog | Using flasher from the first link | 12:27 |
Alphadog | it doesnt get error message about APE algoritm | 12:28 |
Alphadog | I have tried it many times | 12:28 |
Alphadog | with or without pressing U | 12:29 |
KotCzarny | try linux32 ? | 12:30 |
Alphadog | and I don't see such device with lsusb, only my camera, kb ... | 12:31 |
KotCzarny | try without turning it on? | 12:34 |
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Alphadog | yes, I already tried | 12:36 |
Alphadog | I may have forgotten to mention, if I leave the phone, it's in a reboot loop, untill it has battery or is on chanrger | 12:37 |
Alphadog | I can see Nokia logo, but without backlit, in the next moment there is only backlit with black sreen | 12:39 |
Alphadog | Found device RX-51, hardware revision 2101 - I suppose the USB itself is ok by this | 12:42 |
KotCzarny | can you boot rescueos? | 12:43 |
Alphadog | I'm not aware of it. | 12:45 |
Alphadog | Just downloaded the image | 12:45 |
Alphadog | What to do next | 12:45 |
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KotCzarny | flasher-3.5 -k rescueOS_n900_kernel_1.2.zImage -n rescueOS-1.2.img -l -b"rootdelay root=/dev/ram0" | 12:47 |
KotCzarny | it will try to load kernel without flashing (note the -k option) | 12:47 |
Alphadog | just tried with partedmagic 3.5.3 32bit, no luck | 12:48 |
KotCzarny | partedmagic? | 12:48 |
Alphadog | this I found easiest to boot to | 12:49 |
Alphadog | 32bit | 12:49 |
KotCzarny | ahm, some livecd | 12:49 |
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KotCzarny | so, let me rehash the scenario, 1/ disconnect and poweroff the device, 2/ run flasher line and wait for 'waiting for' 3/ connect usb without powering on | 12:51 |
KotCzarny | this fails, right? | 12:51 |
Alphadog | yes | 12:53 |
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Alphadog | yes | 12:54 |
Alphadog | and it seems my battery drains quite fast | 12:55 |
Alphadog | i think i must recharge it, now phone doesnt start and it led lits solid yellow | 12:55 |
Alphadog | i try all with su privilegs, is this ok | 12:56 |
KotCzarny | yeah | 12:58 |
KotCzarny | alphadog, you can try script from | 13:02 |
KotCzarny | ~flashing | 13:02 |
infobot | rumour has it, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh | 13:02 |
KotCzarny | the one names flash-it-all | 13:03 |
KotCzarny | *named | 13:03 |
KotCzarny | also, you might try another computer | 13:04 |
KotCzarny | or cable | 13:04 |
KotCzarny | maybe there is something wrong hardware wise | 13:04 |
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zGrr | hi KotCzarny | 13:27 |
KotCzarny | oink zgrr | 13:28 |
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zGrr | KotCzarny: i might have a time soon to have a look at your brilliant media player. | 13:57 |
zGrr | KotCzarny: it does work on n810, doesn't it? | 13:57 |
Alphadog2 | I will try flashitall later at home, 10x | 14:04 |
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goldkatze | Hi everyone :-) | 14:07 |
goldkatze | I'm looking for a package, cannot find the appropriate repository: syncevolution: Depends: libpcrecpp0 (>= 6.7-1osso1+r1) but it is not installable (virtual package, no candidate) | 14:08 |
goldkatze | Any suggestions? extras, -testing and -devel are enabled. | 14:08 |
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KotCzarny | zgrr: yes, latest is in extras-devel | 14:10 |
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zGrr | fantastisch | 14:10 |
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vectis__ | goldkatze: http://repository.maemo.org/pool/fremantle/free/p/pcre3/ | 14:34 |
goldkatze | uh, libpcrecpp0 stored in pcre3 folder?! okay. thank you so much! | 14:35 |
goldkatze | vectis__: Is this part of the SDK repo? Where do I find those for sources.list? I'm rather confused as to why it's not being found by aptitude already as it is right now. | 14:37 |
KotCzarny | debian, ehehe | 14:37 |
KotCzarny | ~maemo-repos | 14:37 |
infobot | it has been said that maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories | 14:37 |
KotCzarny | and yes, its for scratchbox (sdk) | 14:37 |
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bencoh | http://maemo.org/packages/view/libpcre3/ | 15:11 |
bencoh | it should be in SSU as well | 15:11 |
bencoh | (ie the nokia repositories) | 15:11 |
goldkatze | bencoh: Is muarf still the mirror to use for those? Since nokia is gone? | 15:15 |
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bencoh | well, it should work | 15:17 |
bencoh | there might be other repositories, and there is no "official" one | 15:18 |
goldkatze | ok, thanks :-) | 15:20 |
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om | ~flashing | 17:36 |
infobot | well, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh | 17:36 |
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Alphadog | KotCzarny, I need help :) | 17:44 |
KotCzarny | lol | 17:44 |
KotCzarny | what kind? | 17:44 |
Alphadog | i managed to boot Rescue OS | 17:44 |
Alphadog | :) | 17:44 |
Alphadog | now what should I do | 17:44 |
KotCzarny | good, that was just to check if your flasher/device works | 17:44 |
KotCzarny | now close the rescueos and flash the image from the save env | 17:45 |
KotCzarny | :) | 17:45 |
Alphadog | with vanilla image i suppose | 17:45 |
KotCzarny | ~flashing | 17:45 |
infobot | well, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh | 17:45 |
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KotCzarny | s/save/same/ | 17:51 |
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Alphadog | It works :) | 17:59 |
KotCzarny | woo-hoo? | 17:59 |
KotCzarny | what was the working combination? | 17:59 |
Alphadog | the flasher from the link the bot gave | 17:59 |
KotCzarny | :) | 18:00 |
Alphadog | the script flash it all | 18:00 |
Alphadog | and a bl-4j battery from my friend phone | 18:00 |
Alphadog | http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 18:01 |
KotCzarny | so, it was bad battery that prevented flashing interface showing up? | 18:01 |
Alphadog | from this link I understood that | 18:01 |
Alphadog | on empty battery its impossible to recharge it from this phone | 18:02 |
KotCzarny | :) | 18:02 |
Alphadog | yep :) | 18:02 |
KotCzarny | one nice thing nokia did right is that you can hack and reflash till the flash chip dies | 18:02 |
Alphadog | yes, I found in all g results that hard reset is made with flasher, no *# code or menu option in settings | 18:05 |
KotCzarny | because it's just a linux box | 18:05 |
KotCzarny | no # code to reset, just reinstall | 18:05 |
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Alphadog | yes, but it's not a big deal, as far as I know flash chip can stand up at least 10000 write cycles. | 18:07 |
Alphadog | And the chip I saw was Toshiba, so this number should be 100% guaranteed | 18:08 |
Alphadog | the only bad thing is that if your battery is completely dead, you are in a deadlock - you should use 5800 xpress music to recharge it :) | 18:10 |
KotCzarny | yes | 18:10 |
KotCzarny | but its not a big problem usually | 18:10 |
bencoh | or have a second battery | 18:10 |
bencoh | or a power supply | 18:11 |
KotCzarny | or external charger | 18:11 |
Alphadog | But the worst is that I didn't know about this, and I would never think about this | 18:11 |
Alphadog | :) | 18:11 |
KotCzarny | we all thought your battery is charged enough | 18:12 |
Alphadog | I thought so, I tried it with a potentiometer and voltmetter | 18:12 |
Alphadog | i will get an polarcell one :) | 18:13 |
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KotCzarny | also, rtfm | 18:16 |
KotCzarny | :) | 18:16 |
Alphadog | now my polarcell is on the way | 18:25 |
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Alphadog | KotCzarny, I owe you a beer, call me if you go to Bulgaria :) | 18:30 |
KotCzarny | :) | 18:31 |
KotCzarny | good that it worked | 18:32 |
Alphadog | I also found a brand new touchscreen here in Bulgaria | 18:34 |
Alphadog | for about 15 euro, but I doubt it's OEM, no matter site says "Original Nokia" | 18:34 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | ~flatbatrecover | 18:46 |
infobot | Remove battery for 1 minute. Insert battery. Plug powered ***NOKIA WALLCHARGER*** to device. Watch steady amber. Let sit and charge. Do NOT try to boot. After 30 min, you got either a) a booted up N900, b) flashing amber which means you can boot, c) steady amber shut off -> start over again with ~flatbatrecover while already searching for a new battery. CAVEAT! Only works when ~rootfs OK (no ~bootloop) | 18:46 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~bootloop | 18:46 |
infobot | i heard bootloop is when your device has broken rootfilesystem, so during reboot it fails on some service startup or kernel module load and thus reboots. This *drains* battery! And you can't reflash to stop bootloop when battery is drained. Recharge your battery by other means before reflashing. E.g. using ~rescueOS. Or external charger or BL-5J compatible other device. | 18:46 |
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bencoh | "CAVEAT! Only works when ~rootfs OK (no ~bootloop)" thhhat's te important part :) | 18:54 |
KotCzarny | which wasnt, in this particular example | 18:56 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | ~rootfs | 19:00 |
infobot | rootfs: the content of the storage volume mounted under /, on NAND mtd5 partition. Also called "the system", since it's all the files forming the linux core system (except the kernel itself). Reflash rootfs from COMBINED (see ~flashing). Also see ~bootloop | 19:00 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | >>Also see ~bootloop<< is the relevant part | 19:01 |
KotCzarny | is /home/user/.profile rootfs? | 19:02 |
KotCzarny | because it also can cause bootloop | 19:02 |
KotCzarny | :P | 19:02 |
DocScrutinizer05 | that's right | 19:02 |
DocScrutinizer05 | but afaik only when booting up, not in ACT_DEAD | 19:02 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I might be wrong | 19:03 |
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KotCzarny | yes | 19:04 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | so you could get out of deadlock by simply letting device charge (which is actually what ACT_DEAD is all about) | 19:05 |
DocScrutinizer05 | IOW a broken profile doesn't cause a real bootloop as mentioned in ~flatbatrecover | 19:08 |
DocScrutinizer05 | it simply causes reboot when trying to boot device to full operational level, and reflashing is the cure to that | 19:09 |
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sixwheeledbeast | hmm, *.m.o down? | 19:38 |
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bencoh | works here | 19:39 |
bencoh | (?) | 19:39 |
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KotCzarny | +1 | 19:41 |
KotCzarny | t.m.o works for me | 19:41 |
sixwheeledbeast | hmm not here | 19:43 |
KotCzarny | check if dns resolves | 19:43 |
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sixwheeledbeast | isup.me shows down too | 19:47 |
KotCzarny | 10. talk.maemo.org 0.0% 5 18.0 18.2 18.0 19.1 0.0 | 19:48 |
KotCzarny | works fine | 19:48 |
KotCzarny | from both my home and friends isps ranges | 19:49 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | wfm | 20:08 |
xes | CUBE | 20:10 |
bencoh | sixwheeledbeast: mtr ? | 20:11 |
DocScrutinizer05 | hi xes, long time no see | 20:11 |
bencoh | (the traceroute tool) | 20:11 |
xes | hi DocScrutinizer05! RL is cruel leaving me without free time ;) | 20:12 |
DocScrutinizer05 | same here, sort of | 20:13 |
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sixwheeledbeast | I'll investigate further later, off out now. Seems odd only m.o is affected. | 20:21 |
KotCzarny | m.o also works | 20:21 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | https? | 20:41 |
KotCzarny | yes | 20:42 |
KotCzarny | SSL cipher: 128-bit TLSv1/SSLv3 ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 | 20:42 |
KotCzarny | lol, for https://talk,maemo.org i get connection refused | 20:47 |
KotCzarny | wiki and main work | 20:48 |
KotCzarny | talk works without https | 20:48 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | yes, even for https://talk.maemo.org | 21:19 |
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KotCzarny | i still get conn refused for https://tmo | 21:24 |
KotCzarny | talk about chaos | 21:25 |
KotCzarny | could be that this ip range got blocked for spam tho | 21:25 |
KotCzarny | though for my home connection its also conn ref | 21:26 |
DocScrutinizer05 | yes, I still get conn refused even for https://talk.maemo.org | 21:28 |
xes | there is no https on tmo | 21:29 |
KotCzarny | hmm, so passwords go plain? | 21:29 |
Pali | yes, just plain unencrypted passwords | 21:30 |
Pali | which can be easily sniffed | 21:30 |
KotCzarny | fun (since they are used for whole *.maemo.org?) | 21:30 |
Pali | no TMO account is diffetent | 21:31 |
Pali | not SSOed with maemo.org | 21:31 |
KotCzarny | wasnt there a merge? | 21:31 |
Pali | no | 21:31 |
Pali | never | 21:31 |
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Fiorenza | ~flashing | 21:33 |
infobot | methinks maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh | 21:33 |
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Luke-Jr | what are the symptoms of broken Thumb? | 22:46 |
Luke-Jr | could it be responsible for GCC hanging? | 22:46 |
DocScrutinizer05 | yes, thumb siErr could cause basically all sorts of erratic behavior | 22:53 |
DocScrutinizer05 | though segv is most likely | 22:54 |
kerio | *most lucky | 22:55 |
freemangordon | SIGILL actually ;) | 22:57 |
KotCzarny | sigbus? | 22:58 |
freemangordon | Luke-Jr: highly unlikely | 22:58 |
freemangordon | KotCzarny: no, SIGILL | 22:58 |
Luke-Jr | hmm | 22:58 |
freemangordon | as istructions are executed with wrong T bit value | 22:58 |
Luke-Jr | it's a repeatable hang of the process, that I can cleanly kill | 22:58 |
freemangordon | it is ARM-compied, ain't? | 22:59 |
Luke-Jr | yes | 22:59 |
xes | all: there is a little update maintenance in progress, if you receive some kind of error accessing x.maemo.org please be patient a minute | 22:59 |
bencoh | isn't there a second sierr which causes cpu not to invalidate cache when it needs to ? | 22:59 |
Luke-Jr | I'm tempted to blame musl and go back to glibc 2.19 until things sanitise | 22:59 |
freemangordon | bencoh: thumb-related? | 22:59 |
bencoh | ARM errata 430973 | 22:59 |
KotCzarny | l29ah had problems with musl | 23:00 |
KotCzarny | and gcc | 23:00 |
KotCzarny | and building | 23:00 |
freemangordon | bencoh: this is the "main" thumb sierr | 23:00 |
* Luke-Jr stabs glibc for dropping <2.6.32 support | 23:00 | |
bencoh | freemangordon: the one triggering the SIGILL should be the other one (?) | 23:00 |
freemangordon | yep | 23:00 |
freemangordon | there is another one, something 6xxxxx, which was related to branches | 23:01 |
bencoh | Branch Target Buffer ? that's 430973 :) | 23:01 |
bencoh | 657417 is https://sourceware.org/ml/binutils/2009-05/msg00343.html | 23:01 |
freemangordon | exactly | 23:01 |
freemangordon | but both result in SIGILL, because of the wrong context | 23:02 |
bencoh | they're both funny as an external spectator ... I guess they're awful to debug :] | 23:02 |
bencoh | oh, ok | 23:02 |
bencoh | that's even more vicious :] | 23:03 |
KotCzarny | vicious delicious | 23:05 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | ~flashing | 23:24 |
infobot | maemo-flashing is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh | 23:24 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ^^^ slightly updated (option to flash rootfs only) | 23:25 |
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