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| Luke-Jr | why does the power kernel not support ACLs+xattrs for ext4? :/ | 01:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | o.O | 01:23 |
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| Luke-Jr | meh, no ext4-without-journal anyway | 02:43 |
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| Luke-Jr | KotCzarny: fwiw, there is currently no reasonable way to do Gentoo/N900 due to all stage3s using glibc 2.20 which requires too-new kernel :< | 03:24 |
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| Luke-Jr | crap | 04:57 |
| Luke-Jr | I accidentally rm /dev/* | 04:57 |
| Luke-Jr | will a reboot restore it? | 04:57 |
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| ZetaR | Luke-Jr: Should do it. See 'man udev' for more info on /dev | 05:49 |
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| Alphadog2 | Hi. I need some help. My n900 battery drains quite fast. | 12:23 |
| Alphadog2 | I have read about this in forums, all there is unapplicable for me - switch to 2g network, change wifi to 10 mW, not to use im accounts ... | 12:25 |
| KotCzarny | run top press shift-p | 12:25 |
| KotCzarny | watch what is eating cpu | 12:25 |
| KotCzarny | also, do yo uhave any widgets on the homescreen? | 12:26 |
| Alphadog2 | I have installed modified kernel for overclock. Using qCPUFreq, I have set 800MHz max speed, but minimum is 500. | 12:27 |
| KotCzarny | set minimum to 250 | 12:27 |
| Alphadog2 | I suppose i need to reduce the minimum cpu speed, but i dont know how. 150MHz seems enough in idle. | 12:28 |
| KotCzarny | depends what did you install | 12:29 |
| KotCzarny | but usually you change values in /etc/pmconfig, no need for any app | 12:29 |
| KotCzarny | so i suggest uninstalling it and going back to default | 12:30 |
| Alphadog2 | Does oc to 800 increase power consumption much. Even so, I suppose it does work 10% of the time, others 90% are at lower speeds. | 12:30 |
| KotCzarny | yes it does | 12:30 |
| KotCzarny | over 500-600 mhz you start to pay more in amps for every mhz | 12:31 |
| Luke-Jr | Alphadog2: could your battery just be dead? :P | 12:31 |
| Alphadog2 | Its possibe, but I doubt. I can test it and measure capacity with standart load | 12:32 |
| Alphadog2 | How long does your n900s last? | 12:32 |
| KotCzarny | grab bq27200.sh script and check what is your battery last max capacity | 12:32 |
| KotCzarny | depends on use | 12:32 |
| KotCzarny | when idle its 1-2 weeks | 12:32 |
| Alphadog2 | And in what condition | 12:32 |
| KotCzarny | when in use its 4-8hours | 12:33 |
| bencoh | 4-8hours ? | 12:33 |
| KotCzarny | i mean max use | 12:33 |
| KotCzarny | like playing vids all the time | 12:33 |
| KotCzarny | or games | 12:34 |
| Alphadog2 | Im far away | 12:35 |
| Alphadog2 | ☺ | 12:35 |
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| freemangordon_ | Alphadog2: what is "modified kernel"? | 12:38 |
| freemangordon_ | may I have your "uname -a" output? | 12:38 |
| Alphadog2 | Enhanced linux kernel for power users | 12:39 |
| freemangordon_ | Alphadog2: which version? | 12:40 |
| Alphadog2 | 2.6.28-10powe | 12:40 |
| KotCzarny | powe? | 12:41 |
| freemangordon_ | Alphadog2: type "uname -a" in terminal and provide the output | 12:41 |
| Alphadog2 | R53 #1 PREEMPT | 12:41 |
| Alphadog2 | armv71 unknown at the end | 12:42 |
| freemangordon_ | Alphadog2: 2.6.28-10power53? | 12:42 |
| KotCzarny | ssh into device for easier time | 12:42 |
| freemangordon_ | Alphadog2: how old is the battery in the device? | 12:43 |
| KotCzarny | freemangordon_: mine is 6years old | 12:43 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 12:43 |
| Alphadog2 | I boight it second hand, so i dont know. It was last week. | 12:44 |
| freemangordon_ | KotCzarny: and what is the capacity? | 12:44 |
| bencoh | try buying a polarcell | 12:44 |
| freemangordon_ | Alphadog2: then most probably your battery is dead, just buy a new one | 12:44 |
| KotCzarny | freemangordon_: last 'normal' capacity was ~1200 | 12:44 |
| KotCzarny | now bq script shows weird values | 12:44 |
| Alphadog2 | Pmconfig says that min is 125 max 600 | 12:44 |
| KotCzarny | Alphadog2: uninstall that qcpufreq app | 12:45 |
| freemangordon_ | KotCzarny: i really doubt 6yo battery has lost only 100 mAh of its capacity ;) | 12:45 |
| bencoh | I think 125 is too low | 12:45 |
| KotCzarny | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=FZVSWmyx | 12:45 |
| freemangordon_ | Alphadog2: actually, uninstall everything related to overclocking you may have installed | 12:45 |
| bencoh | (too feel comfortable ... when it wakes up to display a call for instance) | 12:46 |
| bencoh | Alphadog2: and reflash it / start fresh, if you haven't yet | 12:46 |
| freemangordon_ | KotCzarny: no way :) | 12:46 |
| KotCzarny | freemangordon_: that's why i said bq script got weird data | 12:46 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 12:46 |
| Alphadog2 | I reflashed it when i bought it | 12:47 |
| Alphadog2 | I will check with bq script | 12:47 |
| freemangordon_ | Alphadog2: all you need is kernel-power and | 12:48 |
| freemangordon_ | kernel-power-settings | 12:48 |
| KotCzarny | or mcedit and google | 12:48 |
| bencoh | hmm funny, I dont have kernel-power-settings | 12:48 |
| freemangordon_ | for OC that is. remove all those fancy GUI applications, most if not all of them are unmaintained and not compatible with recent kernels | 12:48 |
| freemangordon_ | bencoh: do you OC? | 12:49 |
| KotCzarny | you just need to edit /etc/pmconfig for OC | 12:49 |
| bencoh | no, but I can change it in pmconfig (?) | 12:49 |
| KotCzarny | which kernel-power-settings most likely does | 12:49 |
| bencoh | (I used to run on 250->500) | 12:49 |
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| KotCzarny_ | frickin' consumer dsl, what did i miss? | 12:55 |
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| Luke-Jr | KotCzarny: business DSL isn't much better | 13:12 |
| KotCzarny | luke, business dsl usually comes with static ip | 13:12 |
| KotCzarny | which in turn doesnt disconnect on regular basis | 13:12 |
| Luke-Jr | not here. | 13:12 |
| KotCzarny | any other is businessish | 13:12 |
| Luke-Jr | nor do dynamic IPs disconnect regularly here.. | 13:12 |
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| Alphadog | My battery just died :) | 13:15 |
| Alphadog | So you advice me to uninstall all overclock features, and if i want OC just to edit pmconfig | 13:16 |
| KotCzarny | es | 13:16 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 13:16 |
| KotCzarny | and first try to run on stock | 13:16 |
| KotCzarny | to see if it helps | 13:16 |
| KotCzarny | without any oc | 13:16 |
| Alphadog | And check the battery status using bq script | 13:16 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 13:16 |
| freemangordon_ | Alphadog: most probably your battery needs replacement | 13:16 |
| freemangordon_ | ~polarcell | 13:17 |
| infobot | hmm... polarcell is http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390402445382 BL-5J Replacement | 13:17 |
| KotCzarny | things to look for is vdq:1 field otherwise data could be wrong | 13:17 |
| KotCzarny | (though it's wrong on my device anyway) | 13:17 |
| freemangordon_ | KotCzarny: doesn't it need calibration? | 13:18 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: s/vdq/ci/ | 13:18 |
| KotCzarny | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=FZVSWmyx | 13:18 |
| KotCzarny | both 1 | 13:18 |
| KotCzarny | ci means calibration incomplete? | 13:18 |
| bencoh | invalid | 13:18 |
| bencoh | and vdq is important wen you're trying to calibrate it | 13:19 |
| KotCzarny | will it become valid just by a charge/discharge cycle? | 13:19 |
| bencoh | more or less | 13:19 |
| KotCzarny | k, we will see in a few days | 13:19 |
| bencoh | but you need a real discharge cycle, which means "no bme" in the last phase | 13:19 |
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| KotCzarny | hmm | 13:20 |
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| Alphadog | I searched thru aliexpress, all batteries there were mentioned in comments worse than the original battery in capacity, but on product description they were all above 1500 | 13:20 |
| KotCzarny | alphadog: polarcell | 13:20 |
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| KotCzarny | ebay.com has them for ~10usd/eur with shipping free | 13:21 |
| Alphadog | With same size. I also saw a 2400 battery, it seemed true - it was twice larger than original, with additional back phone cover. | 13:22 |
| KotCzarny | yes, mugen | 13:23 |
| KotCzarny | if you has moneys go for it | 13:23 |
| Alphadog | But price was about 80$ :) | 13:23 |
| KotCzarny | ^ | 13:23 |
| bencoh | and some space in your pocket | 13:23 |
| KotCzarny | polacell brand was tested and tried by many community members | 13:24 |
| KotCzarny | *polarcell | 13:24 |
| KotCzarny | just do it | 13:24 |
| KotCzarny | and pastebin bq script output | 13:25 |
| Luke-Jr | Alphadog: so when was the last time you replaced the battery? | 13:26 |
| KotCzarny | he bought it used recently (device) | 13:26 |
| Luke-Jr | so probably never | 13:26 |
| Luke-Jr | surprised it works at all | 13:26 |
| KotCzarny | luke, nokia made good batteries | 13:26 |
| KotCzarny | built to last | 13:26 |
| Luke-Jr | KotCzarny: not mine :P | 13:27 |
| KotCzarny | mine still works after 6years | 13:27 |
| Alphadog | Its original, has the holo sticker | 13:27 |
| Luke-Jr | half a year ago, it stopped even booting :/ | 13:27 |
| Alphadog | I also have 6310i with original battery. I use it, lasts 5-6 days | 13:27 |
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| Alphadog | I actually think my battery is bad. Charging it 20 minutes, and when tried to use the phone while in charger, it turned off | 13:46 |
| Alphadog | So this seems to be the problem | 13:46 |
| KotCzarny | that too | 13:46 |
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| kerio | i thought mugen was pretty bad | 15:07 |
| kerio | like, compared to two BL-5Js | 15:07 |
| KotCzarny | price wise, yeah | 15:22 |
| kerio | no, capacity wise | 15:26 |
| KotCzarny | capacity is not all | 15:26 |
| kerio | 2.2Ah versus almost 3 | 15:26 |
| KotCzarny | bl-5j is 1.3-1.4 | 15:26 |
| KotCzarny | mugen claims its 2.4 | 15:27 |
| kerio | my 1.5 bl-5j says hi | 15:27 |
| KotCzarny | nokia sells 1.3-1.4 ones | 15:27 |
| kerio | still 2.8 vs 2.4 | 15:27 |
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| kerio | it can be quite significant | 15:28 |
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| ptrz | can anyone here run the following on a maemo machine and tell me what you get? pkg-config --cflags nss | 20:58 |
| ptrz | more generally, I'm trying to figure out whether maemo still has its own NSS config | 20:58 |
| KotCzarny | n8x0 or n900? | 20:59 |
| bencoh | a maemo machine ? | 20:59 |
| ptrz | yeah, maemo | 20:59 |
| ptrz | with NSS installed | 20:59 |
| KotCzarny | not to mention you dont do pkgconfig on device | 20:59 |
| ptrz | you likely already have it | 20:59 |
| KotCzarny | only in scratchbox | 21:00 |
| ptrz | ? | 21:00 |
| bencoh | you shouldnt have pkg-config on a maemo device, unless you installed the sdk on it | 21:00 |
| ptrz | okay :) | 21:00 |
| KotCzarny | [root@Nokia-N900:~]# pkg-config | 21:00 |
| KotCzarny | -sh: pkg-config: not found | 21:00 |
| ptrz | I have no idea about anything related to maemo | 21:00 |
| bencoh | can try it scratchbox though | 21:00 |
| ptrz | do people still use pidgin for it? | 21:00 |
| ptrz | bencoh: yeah, that'd be useful | 21:00 |
| bencoh | pidgin still works, at least | 21:00 |
| ptrz | basically, wherever people would build pidgin | 21:00 |
| bencoh | that would be in scratchbox then :) | 21:00 |
| KotCzarny | mind you, maemo libs ARE old | 21:01 |
| KotCzarny | so dont rely on anything exotic | 21:02 |
| bencoh | funny, pkg-config doesnt give me anything for nss or libnss | 21:02 |
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| KotCzarny | bencoh, try /etc/ files directly | 21:02 |
| bencoh | anyway | 21:02 |
| bencoh | ii libnss3 20100401-1.9.2-5.2+0m5 Network Security Service Libraries - runtime | 21:02 |
| bencoh | same on device | 21:03 |
| ptrz | what about microb-engine-nss? | 21:04 |
| ptrz | as the package name? | 21:04 |
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| bencoh | ptrz: oh, you're talking about mozilla-nss then | 21:13 |
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| bencoh | > pkg-config --cflags mozilla-nss | 21:14 |
| bencoh | -I/usr/include/microb-engine -I/usr/include/microb-engine/nss -I/usr/include/microb-engine/nspr | 21:14 |
| bencoh | libnss3-dev: /usr/lib/pkgconfig/mozilla-nss.pc | 21:14 |
| ptrz | oh cool | 21:17 |
| ptrz | thanks | 21:17 |
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