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bencohhmm, I feel like tklock is all buggy00:52
bencoh(reading the source)00:53
bencohtime_t g_notifications_mtime;00:53
bencoh(no initialization)00:53
bencoh  if(g_notifications_mtime == sb.st_mtime)00:53
bencoh(further down the code)00:53
bencohbut g_notifications_mtime is never set as far as I can tell00:53
bencohthat's probably not the only bug, but ...00:54
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sixwheeledbeastbencoh: is this stock tklock?01:09
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sixwheeledbeastbencoh: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/osso-systemui-tklock/source/2f72c1718e53d2ae2506fa37cad9d4195850114a:debian/changelog you can also git diff with the stock branch to see fmg's fixes.01:24
bencohI'm already reading master from there01:28
bencohdo we have original (stock) source ?01:31
arceanhmm nope01:31
arceanbut original tklock is even more buggy01:31
bencohwell it certainly is01:31
arceanwith lots of memory leaks01:32
bencohyup, that's what I was hunting for ;)01:32
bencohbut looks like I wont find much without source01:32
arceanactually cssu tklock is/should be leaks-free :P01:32
bencohhaha01:32
bencohdunno, havent tried it ... I hope so though01:32
bencohis it in cssu-testing ?01:33
arceanyup01:33
bencohI guess I really should upgrade to testing on that phone ...01:33
arceanor to thumb edition01:34
bencohindeed01:34
bencohis current thumb rebased on current testing as well ?01:35
bencohor on current stable ?01:35
arceanon testing, sometimes with slightly newer versions of packages01:36
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bencohhmm ookay, looks like installing osso-systemui-tklock_0.3.1.1 (dpkg -i) prevents (stable) systemui menu from working01:50
bencohstrange01:51
bencohtklock does work though01:51
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sixwheeledbeastbencoh: there is an RE (which is what I was referring to as "stock")02:16
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bencohhm ?02:41
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DocScrutinizer05background info: 25'000 employees of Nokia 'moved' to Microsoft, now after 3(?) months Microsoft sets 12'500 of them free08:21
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DocScrutinizer05my suggestion: the other 12'500 should resign, unite with the fired half, and found a new company. Maybe No-Kia08:23
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Ras_Olderin Finland they are laying off 500 to 1000 (depending on the source) ex-Nokia people :(08:47
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bencoheverytime I think about setting up a maemo/sb sdk I feel like not really willing to do this :/12:34
bencoh"hmm, do I really want to go through this"12:35
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DocScrutinizer05get the VM14:34
DocScrutinizer05~sb14:35
infobotit has been said that scratchbox is a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB14:35
APicDocScrutinizer05: ♥14:35
DocScrutinizer05do you want to marry me?14:35
DocScrutinizer05or will a photo suffice ;-)14:36
APicI'm not gay.14:36
APicThat was just platonic.14:36
DocScrutinizer05aaah ok14:36
APicBecause You're _the_ N900-Wizard!14:37
DocScrutinizer05may I quote you? :-D14:38
APicSure.14:38
DocScrutinizer05honestly, setting up a genuine scratchbox indeed is kinda unbearable14:40
kerio~joerg14:40
infoboti heard joerg is a natural born EE, ex HW-developer and engineer of Openmoko, now mainly involved in maintenance of maemo and N900. Usually known as DocScrutinizer. Initiator of http://neo900.org14:40
DocScrutinizer05I think I recall it took me ~2 days14:40
kerioinfobot: joerg is also _the_ N900-Wizard!14:40
infobotcannot alter locked factoids, kerio14:40
kerio:(14:41
DocScrutinizer05infobot: joerg is also _the_ N900-Wizard!14:41
infobotokay, DocScrutinizer0514:41
DocScrutinizer05;-)14:42
kerio~joerg14:42
infobotit has been said that joerg is a natural born EE, ex HW-developer and engineer of Openmoko, now mainly involved in maintenance of maemo and N900. Usually known as DocScrutinizer. Initiator of http://neo900.org, or _the_ N900-Wizard!14:42
APiclulz14:42
kerioperfect14:42
DocScrutinizer05infobot: no, joerg is a natural born EE, ex HW-developer and engineer of Openmoko, now mainly involved in maintenance of maemo and N900. Usually known as DocScrutinizer. Initiator of http://neo900.org, or ``_the_ N900-Wizard!   <https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2014-07-18.log.html#t2014-07-18T14:37:10>´´14:46
infobotDocScrutinizer05: i'm not going to learn illegal characters14:46
DocScrutinizer05infobot: no, joerg is a natural born EE, ex HW-developer and engineer of Openmoko, now mainly involved in maintenance of maemo and N900. Usually known as DocScrutinizer. Initiator of http://neo900.org, or _the_ N900-Wizard!   <https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2014-07-18.log.html#t2014-07-18T14:37:10>14:46
infobotDocScrutinizer05: okay14:46
DocScrutinizer05illegal characters, tzzzz!14:47
DocScrutinizer05seems to me infobot's character is illegal ;-)14:47
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teotwakimsg infobot crashanddie16:26
teotwakifail16:26
teotwaki~crashanddie16:26
infobotsomebody said crashanddie was OMG!!!16:26
teotwaki~forget about crashanddie16:26
infobotteotwaki: i didn't have anything called 'about crashanddie' to forget16:26
teotwaki~forget crashanddie16:27
infoboti forgot crashanddie, teotwaki16:27
teotwaki~teotwaki16:27
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bencohDocScrutinizer05: I ended up manually installing sb on wheezy17:08
DocScrutinizer05mhm17:09
bencohfun fact : matchbox wont work without the Composite extension17:09
bencohwhich means that matchbox wont work with Xvnc/vncserver17:09
DocScrutinizer05mhm17:09
bencoh(thus hildon-desktop wont run)17:09
DocScrutinizer05dunno17:10
bencohtested here ;)17:10
DocScrutinizer05I seem to recall using VNC to access N900 from my PC... or was it other way round?17:10
DocScrutinizer05one of both worked, I'm pretty sure17:11
bencohboth probably worked17:11
bencohbe it x11vnc on n900 or vncviewer on n90017:11
bencohbut Xvnc spawns its own Xorg instance (like Xephyr)17:12
DocScrutinizer05oh. well17:12
bencoh(except that it doesnt output to a X window)17:12
* xes still hopes that someone had the time to build a recent x2go for maemo17:14
DocScrutinizer05(scratchbox) installing that maemo stuff (rootstraps?) worked?17:14
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bencohlooks like it did17:15
bencohwiki is pretty accurate17:15
DocScrutinizer05cool17:15
bencohyup :)17:15
DocScrutinizer05I expected procedure to fail when it comes to getting that magic token17:15
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DocScrutinizer05well, will happen soon enough, I guess17:16
bencohhmm, the tocken is virtually available in tmo and wiki (on some other page)17:17
DocScrutinizer05yeah, but sooner rather than later the binaries protected by that token will vanish I guess17:19
bencohprolly yeah17:19
bencohhmm is fremantle/ a symlink to maemo5.0/ ?17:20
bencohor should I mirror this one as well ?17:20
DocScrutinizer05sorry?17:20
bencohthe nokia-binaries repo on r.m.o17:21
DocScrutinizer05xes: ^^^ could you check repo/stage VM if that's a symlink?17:22
DocScrutinizer05meh, do you have a guess where that suspected symlink would be in local filesystem? /var/www/....?17:23
DocScrutinizer05bencoh: ^17:24
bencohI'd check nginx conf for that17:24
xessorry too mobile to use ssh...17:26
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FlameReaper-PCJust a very curious question... not sure if I could ask here or some other channel17:29
DocScrutinizer05bencoh: I'm not worried abiut nginx config. I'll be able to find vhost root17:30
FlameReaper-PCKinda pointing about the history of the N900 itself. To put it blunt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhTtsZATwBQ <- this17:30
bencohDocScrutinizer05: oh then it should be in r.m.o/pool/17:30
FlameReaper-PCWas this used as a TV commercial or something?17:30
FlameReaper-PCOr is it only present in stock N900 devices?17:30
bencoh(and probably dist as well)17:32
DocScrutinizer05 /var/repository/backup.chr.05092013/live/extras-devel/pool/fremantle-1.2/free/a/aalib/17:32
bencohwhat's this ?17:32
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DocScrutinizer05a path from locate fremantle17:33
DocScrutinizer05then /(search) pool17:33
DocScrutinizer05joerg@stage:~$ locate fremantle|less17:35
DocScrutinizer05joerg@stage:~$ locate fremantle|wc -l17:35
DocScrutinizer0575054917:35
DocScrutinizer05gimme a better searchstring, sth more specific17:36
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bencoh<vhostroot>/pool/fremantle I guess17:37
DocScrutinizer05obviously not17:38
bencohhmm, cant tell much more from http://repository.maemo.org/pool/fremantle/17:40
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DocScrutinizer05we  got /extras-testing/pool/fremantle/ and whatnot else17:42
DocScrutinizer05extras/pool/fremantle/17:43
DocScrutinizer05all repos are in this vhostroot17:43
bencohhmm17:44
bencohlocate maemo5.0|grep "maemo5.0$" ?17:44
DocScrutinizer05then there's pool/fremantle-update2/nokia-binaries/4bc37c7c77e*bla/bla/bla17:44
DocScrutinizer05/var/repository/live/dists/maemo5.017:46
DocScrutinizer05/var/repository/live/pool/maemo5.017:46
bencohyay those one I guess17:46
bencohis there a fremantle directory in /var/repository/live/dists as well ?17:47
DocScrutinizer05as you might have guessed, /var/repository/ is vhost root17:47
bencohor are those symlinks ?17:47
DocScrutinizer05joerg@stage:~$ ls -ld `locate maemo5.0|grep "maemo5.0$" `17:47
DocScrutinizer05drwxr-sr-x 5 repository repository 4096 Oct 20  2010 /var/repository/live/dists/maemo5.017:47
DocScrutinizer05drwxr-sr-x 5 repository repository 4096 May 18  2010 /var/repository/live/pool/maemo5.017:48
DocScrutinizer05http://privatepaste.com/3cfa4695f517:48
DocScrutinizer05shhh!17:48
bencohhmm17:51
bencohsame goes for /var/repository/live/dists/fremantle ?17:51
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DocScrutinizer05http://privatepaste.com/4ff86fc61d17:52
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DocScrutinizer05bencoh: afk now. sorry18:04
bencohthanks :)18:04
bencoh(seems like a cp -r actually)18:04
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DocScrutinizer05yeah, weird18:13
DocScrutinizer05it seems during one of the migrations somebody managed to expand several if not all symlinks18:14
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Maceruhm19:43
Macerare the images no longer available?19:43
Macerhttp://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Development_Environment/Maemo_Flasher-3.519:44
Maceroh19:45
Macermy bad19:45
Macer~flasher19:45
infobot[flasher] at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz.   HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/19:45
Macer~emmc19:46
infobothmm... emmc is magnet:?xt=urn:btih:402fb5cc8a48ecbc18a77c9cf70d869a775bcf53&dn=RX-51%5F2009SE%5F10.2010.13-2.VANILLA%5FPR%5FEMMC%5FMR0%5FARM.bin or https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4105928/RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.torrent, or http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin19:46
Macer~combined19:47
infobotrumour has it, combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/19:47
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Macerugh... seriously19:53
Maceryou'd think this flasher would be static19:53
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Macerugh. i need to fully flash this n900 i sold and can't get any files :/20:08
Macerawesome20:08
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Macernokia didn't give maemo.org the rights to host the fw and emmc files?20:11
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Macerso can i just use 0xffff for this?20:22
sixwheeledbeastMacer: yes and yes but I have never used 0xFFFF20:31
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Macersixwheeledbeast: heh. i didn't either. i just used flasher-3.5 on a windows box21:07
Macerwhich should be the last time i ever do ;)21:07
Maceri just had to wipe the rootfs and emmc21:08
Macerwow. fking awesome. the 32GB isn't being seen21:11
Macerthis emmc img has to be messed up21:11
Macerbut of course the awesome torrent that i can get from here doesn't seem to want to work :/21:12
Macer~emmc21:12
infobotit has been said that emmc is magnet:?xt=urn:btih:402fb5cc8a48ecbc18a77c9cf70d869a775bcf53&dn=RX-51%5F2009SE%5F10.2010.13-2.VANILLA%5FPR%5FEMMC%5FMR0%5FARM.bin or https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4105928/RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.torrent, or http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin21:12
Macerguess i'll just use the central europe one and see what happens .. blah21:12
Snafu777~sex21:13
infobot[~sex] updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; emerge --oneshot condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; emerge -C condom; make clean;  sleep;21:13
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* Macer kicks this n90021:24
Macerahhhhhh!21:24
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Snafu777?21:29
keriocan't you just ask doc to hook you up21:29
Macerit's ok. i got it.21:32
Macerit's all flashed heh21:33
Macerlet me ship it off to the next poor bastard that will rip his hair out over it ;)21:33
Macertoo bad there is no more maemo from nokia... it really was the most promising OS21:33
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NokiabotMacer:go tell that to elop :p21:36
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Macerhaha22:52
Macerelop doesn't care. he has his few million net worth :)22:52
Macerwp8.1 isn't too bad... but ios is better22:53
Macerand it acts pretty much like ios with tiles22:53
Macerah well.. i shipped this thing out.. thanks for the help :) you seriously should consider just hosting those files. i doubt nokia would sue maemo.org haha22:54
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sixwheeledbeastwell another member never to be seen again....23:29
keriosixwheeledbeast: ?23:30
sixwheeledbeastMacer23:30
sixwheeledbeastalthough maybe the device will go to a new home23:31
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