IRC log of #maemo for Sunday, 2011-11-06

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SpeedEvilRioting_Pacifist: :)00:10
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* SpeedEvil wants a waterproof n900.00:16
SpeedEvilOr more accurately, splashproof.00:17
SpeedEvilI'm happy if it dies if I drop it in water, but I want to be able to use it with wet hands.00:17
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jacekowskii used my n900 with wet hands in rain00:35
jacekowskiand it was finally usb port that killed it00:35
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SpeedEvilAnd yes.00:36
Cor-Aijacekowski: same here :/00:38
psycho_oreosthere's many orifices on N900 :)00:38
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jack_ltwhat is the default app on the n900 to open pictures like gif? Can I start it from the terminal? Other suggestions for an picture viewer?00:39
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DocScrutinizerit's called "gallery" and I think you can click on *.gif in filemanager and it will open the picture in gallery00:53
jack_ltok I see00:53
jack_ltand from command line?00:53
DocScrutinizerprobably some dbus-send magic00:53
DocScrutinizerpossibly sth to open the "URL" file://path/to/my.gif in *browser*00:54
jack_lthmm it should be simple stupid, but it isn't00:54
jack_ltstrange to me that you can't launch an app via terminaĺ00:55
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DocScrutinizeryou can, but for some apps they don't take cmdline parameters00:55
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DocScrutinizere.g notes00:55
DocScrutinizera real PITA00:55
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jack_ltanyway, I really love this device00:56
DocScrutinizerI wondered for weeks and months how to get a simple shopping list using notes and a file with fixed name, and a desktop shortcut. Impossible00:56
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jack_lthm no 'desktop icon' for gallery?00:59
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jack_ltok  image viewer01:01
jack_ltI see01:01
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jack_ltyou could use evince to see those from terminal01:02
jack_ltit opens gif files at least01:02
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jack_lthm cant find that app01:08
jack_lthm exra dev01:10
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psycho_oreosahh fsck PEBKAC error: multitasking with many linux nodes and issued right set of commands to the wrong target (converting an existing ext3 partition with ext3 when its supposed to be vfat to ext3). More joy when it comes to recovery *ugh*02:11
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valentin2hi guys02:12
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valentin2i havn't found anyone online in the UI channel, so i thought it's better showing my idea in this channel02:13
SpeedEvilLooks interesting.02:14
SpeedEvilI question how much you can do with the existing framework though. Is it just straight to the existing apps?02:15
valentin2do you have any experiance in coding and stuff?02:15
valentin2yep, just with the existing apps02:15
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SpeedEvilIf I was as good a brain surgeon as a coder, I can just about perform a lobotomy.02:16
valentin2i just thought about a nw way to interact with the handheld02:16
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SpeedEvilyou swipe from the middle to the outside?02:16
valentin2you mean the lockscreen?02:17
valentin2take a look at the top02:17
valentin2on the left sife you should swipe your finger on to the right side in a circle02:17
valentin2to unlock it02:17
SpeedEvilIt looks like the columbus app.02:18
SpeedEvila bit02:18
valentin2i wanted everything to be like in a circle02:18
psycho_oreoslooks like some sort of a watch based UI02:18
valentin2do you know else first?02:18
valentin2or first else02:19
psycho_oreosnot off my head, I hardly look at UI improvements/designs myself02:19
valentin2then you HAVE TO take a look at that one02:19
valentin2just a moment02:20
psycho_oreosthe link you made just then? I did and I commented it02:20
SpeedEvilUnfortunately, in many ways, ideas are easy.02:20
valentin2other link#02:20
psycho_oreosimplementation is always hard :)02:20
valentin2just looking for it, pls give me a second02:21
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valentin2this is just to demonstrate02:22
valentin2it's been a project of the company "emblaze"02:22
valentin2they finished development on the device, wanted to sell it, but couldn't find any investors02:23
valentin2sad, but true02:23
valentin2so i took that one and thought about what one could do to improve it and bring it on maemo02:24
valentin2just to show what maome or linux generally is capable of02:24
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SpeedEvilIt's a damn shame that good projects don't get funded.02:24
valentin2i also sent an email to emblaze just to ensure that the project is dead02:25
valentin2and asked if any prototypes still exist02:25
valentin2no answer.. :(02:25
valentin2and thats just one of many vids about that device02:26
valentin2just the vids are amazing02:26
SpeedEvilThere are regrettably other issues.02:28
SpeedEvilWhile the company may have died, t's not unlikely it's applied for patents.02:28
SpeedEvilThose patents do not cease to exist simply because the company has died - they likely have been bought by someone.02:28
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valentin2could be02:30
valentin2just noone knows02:30
valentin2and eccept of that, i changed everything02:30
psycho_oreosthat looks pretty interesting the whole UI, it seems to slow down the device a little and yes its a shame that it never became a mainstream device02:31
valentin2i just took the idea of a circle02:31
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valentin2that's why know i'm looking for devs to take this idea and realizing it02:32
valentin2i think it could change the whole interaction with data and stuff02:32
valentin2on any device02:33
valentin2indifferent being a desktop or a handheld02:33
jonwilI now know the prototype of every single function called by the conversations app :)02:34
valentin2poorly i don't have any experiance in coding02:35
valentin2otherwise i'd have already started working on something02:35
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valentin2all i can do is designing and making *.svg mockups02:37
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valentin2nobody wanty to give it a try?02:46
psycho_oreosI'm not particularly good at making such UI into reality :þ02:48
valentin2you're developer at all?02:48
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psycho_oreospretty much just a intermediate linux user02:50
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valentin2could i post that idea anywhere so the devs can see that idea?02:59
woldrichpsycho_oreos, thanks for the tip, got the gripper the other day and it's actually quite comfortable02:59
psycho_oreosvalentin2, tmo threads maybe under UI development?03:00
psycho_oreoswoldrich, damn I wanted to buy one ;)03:01
valentin2just sad that i douldnt find anyone online in tha ui development channel03:01
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woldrichpsycho_oreos, it's still for sale, not that many still in stock03:04
psycho_oreosI really don't have any other suggestions. There's very little amount of developers left and they're either busy contributing patches to CSSU or their own programs. Though for the media player, that might be an idea for the open media player by MohammadAG. The problem is will he take that onboard or not. The rest are more or less proprietary and lacks a developer to write the underlying sources03:04
psycho_oreoswoldrich, interesting03:04
Macerwoldrich: nice!03:05
Macergame grip!03:05
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Macerdo bt gamepads not work in maemo?03:05
Macerlike a ps3 one or something else?03:05
woldrichit should work, my ps3 controller works with the cable03:06
psycho_oreosi.e. USB hostmode?03:06
Macerdon't you have to make an adapter for usb hostmode?03:06
valentin2psycho_oreos: that's sad...:(03:06
Maceri would rather avoid the usb port ;)03:06
Macerand use a usb one03:06
psycho_oreosvalentin2, partially nokia takes the blame here fyi.. most of the maemo framework is really closed03:07
psycho_oreosnot to mention nokia killed maemo and left it to hang03:07
valentin2...and that's called open source device..03:07
woldrichyeah, I hacked together some bizarre adapter thingy from parts I found on the floor under the bed03:08
woldrichbut it's not something I'd carry around on the bus or whatever03:08
psycho_oreosthe grass is always greener on the other side :) you can always try and look for another device that has as much functionality as N900 and with updated hardware and that it would run something at least open in some retrospects03:08
Macerwth is up with 80s women and those pants that go up to their stomach?03:09
psycho_oreoswoldrich, duct tape helps ;) and when they give you the stare, you tell them you're a game developer.. the kids will go "oooooooooh! can I haz some?" :303:10
valentin2what the hack :D03:10
woldrichpsycho_oreos, :D03:10
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valentin2psycho: what kind of device?03:12
psycho_oreosvalentin2, I was blatantly sarcastic. You won't find any alternatives to N900 in terms of openness, with loads of hardware features and has at least more updated hardware (as of 2009 of course)03:13
valentin2makes me kinda sad03:15
psycho_oreossadly this is the reality, I'm sure you're not the only one that has bright ideas for UI innovations that could change the landscape of how one interfaces with the device but maemo/meego are somewhat a dead and shrinking platform03:16
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valentin2dead just beacause devs dont get any money on developing it further03:17
psycho_oreospartially that and because the lack of manufacturer contribution03:17
valentin2if they'd get some investors, i think it could take its way03:17
valentin2also of hardware lack03:18
SpeedEvilIf I could get some investors, I'd make a stab at an open phone.03:18
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valentin2i'd be happy having some devs working on any project of mine...i have a lot, not just this interface03:19
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LaoLang_cool_How to get the last on screen message poped up, it's disappeared so quickly...03:21
LaoLang_cool_Or is there a log file for it?03:21
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valentin2sry dont know..03:23
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psycho_oreosdoubt it, you mean banner type messages?03:24
LaoLang_cool_psycho_oreos: yes03:24
LaoLang_cool_it's duration is so short03:25
psycho_oreosLaoLang_cool_, maybe try re-executing the program again?03:25
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psycho_oreosor redo the steps to produce that banner03:25
LaoLang_cool_psycho_oreos: some message is event info, doesn't relative to the program running03:25
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LaoLang_cool_For example, recaller has made a record, it will say it, rerun it doesn't make sense03:26
psycho_oreosLaoLang_cool_, I wouldn't know then. There's bazillion possible messages that would appear as banner03:26
LaoLang_cool_psycho_oreos: yes03:26
LaoLang_cool_psycho_oreos: thanks all the same03:27
LaoLang_cool_the time is so short, is it configurable?03:27
psycho_oreosiinm the banner appears for 3 seconds but then if you press the screen when the banner appears it may disappear upon screen event03:28
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Macergeez. i don't remember my n900 taking this long to charge03:49
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DocScrutinizer51I seem to recall a database involved in notifications03:58
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jonwilbah, I cant get anywhere with reverse engineering the "conversations" app unless I can find someone who knows stuff about telepathy :(08:30
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Macercopying stuff over wifi so i don't have to touch the usb port lol09:53
Maceri am so paranoid about the usb port in my new n900 that i wish i didn't have to touch it altogether09:53
Maceri need to find a compatible charging pad09:53
* jonwil is bored :(09:59
psycho_oreosjonwil, ever recovered any ext3 data?10:01
ShadowJKmake a image copy before attempting any fsck on flash medias10:07
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psycho_oreosits not that, I stupidly executed mkfs.ext3 on the wrong target. I've already dumped the image and used photorec on it but I'm not getting any filenames back, just the files :/10:10
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cityLightshi all10:10 has the n810 at 130$10:10
cityLightsand I have being considering buying it for the last two days10:10
jogadoes someone know where drnoksnes actually stores its configuration? by default it should be in ~/.config/drnoksnes.conf, but the launcher tells it to look for it in /usr/share/games/drnoksnes/drnoksnes.conf, but the content of that file looks like a desktop icon??10:12
jogaand certainly doesn't contain my configuration, which still works10:13
joga"desktop icon" meaning a .desktop file for hildon basically10:13
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jogameh I'll just install strace..10:14
joga...didn't help :)10:19
jogaI suppose javispedro knows about it, but I'm just kinda baffled how it's supposed to work10:20
jogathe problem I have is that at least with a certain game, I can play it, but if I go back to the menu, there's no Continue/Restart buttons and I have to kill drnoksnes to get it working again10:26
jogaand it usually has been working so that I can simply press my way out of it and it'll pause it nicely10:27
jogahmm...though I can apparently work around that by opening the rom selection dialog, then closing it, and now I got the buttons clickable again and can even close drnoksnes without killing it10:30
jogawhat I'm wondering is if it's normal that I can't find where it stores its config and the apparent "config" file is not a config file at all imo10:31
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Macerwifi xfering over sshfs is murdering my battery11:10
slonopotamusso don't do it11:11
psycho_oreoshe has to because he doesn't want to ruin his USB socket11:11
psycho_oreosyou may as well leave it on permanent charge anyway11:12
Maceri am going to get a hol of a duracell mygrid microusb power clip and see how it fits on the phone11:17
Maceri think it will obstruct the cam11:17
Maceri am xfering 20GB of music to the internal storage over wifi11:17
Macerusing sshfs11:17
Macerweeeeeee! lol11:18
psycho_oreosbeen there, done that. The whole device heated up for a fair while during transfers11:18
* ShadowJK is out wandering in the woods, with N810 and maemo-mapper11:20
* ShadowJK wishes gps drifted less than 1m in half an hour11:21
MacerShadowJK: it is possible to install debian on the n810 on an SD right?11:22
ShadowJKI don't think debian has "native" N810 sxupport11:23
Maceri was hoping to do it without a chroot11:23
Maceri want to use my n810 as a server11:23
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MacerShadowJK: i will look into it after i get the SD adapter.. kind of sucks that i don't have one. i have no idea what i did with my micro sd to mini adapter... :/11:55
Macerbut i want to have a synology box for storage and an n810 as a server for a handful of users... and low level stuff like irssi and named ... maybe even apache if it can handle it.. not sure how well the arm branches run11:55
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jacekowskiMacer: synology has linux on it12:12
jacekowskiMacer: so you canhave irssi and apache there12:12
jonwilEvery time I open the PowerVR blobs in IDA, I always end up realizing just how hard they are for me to even begin to understand12:12
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jonwilsame with pretty much all the other bits I want to reverse engineer12:14
psycho_oreosI guess those are the joys of being a reverse engineer :)12:17
jonwilThe lack of open PowerVR drivers is IMO the #1 problem in the mobile space right now12:18
jonwilI also seem to get the feeling that no-one cares about my work12:22
jonwilso I have less incentive to put the effort in if no-one is going to use the results12:22
nealopen PowerVR drivers are on the FSF's high-priority list12:23
jonwilwhich means absolutely nothing in the real world12:23
nealunfortunately, GTA04 contains a PowerVR-based graphics driver12:23
jonwilas no-one is actually doing any WORK on opening them up12:24
nealThen it is that much more important that you do it12:24
jonwilIf I had any of the needed skills, I would do it12:24
jonwiland if I had the money, I would buy the HexRays ARM decompiler12:26
jonwiland use that to blow some of these things right open12:26
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psycho_oreossounds like you need to setup a site with donation link12:27
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psycho_oreosouch, USD$2240 for base ARM decompiler from Hex-Rays12:30
jonwilyeah ough12:30
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jonwilyeah 224012:30
jonwilplus a couple hundred for IDA12:30
jonwilabout 2779 for the cheapest possible license12:30
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jonwilI doubt a donation link could raise anywhere NEAR that much money12:31
psycho_oreoswell it might not but at least its probably better than nothing.12:31
jonwilDoubt that could raise anywhere near enough money.12:35
nealpledgers have no risk12:35
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jacekowskidecompiler isn't going to help you a lot12:45
jacekowskiif you want i can run some files trough it12:45
jacekowskiand besides, you can't buy it12:47
jacekowskiit's not released12:47
jacekowskiand abandoned12:47
jacekowskionly people that had x86 decompiler when they were trialing it have arm decompiler12:48
jonwilthe HexRays site says the ARM decompiler is very much for sale12:48
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jonwilif you have $224012:48
jacekowskiwell, try ordering it12:48
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jonwilIf I had 2.7k I would try :P12:49
Macerfind the torrent12:51
jonwilTrust me, if there was a torrent out there, I would know about it12:51
Maceri am still trying to find a way to install debian on the n810 without a chroot12:51
Maceri know there has to be a way to do it.. mer was on its way12:51
jacekowskijonwil: there is very specific reason why arm decompiler hasn't leaked yet12:52
jacekowskijonwil: and you can get latest ida and latest x86 decompiler12:52
jonwiland that reason is?12:52
Macerjacekowski: what is the reason?12:52
jacekowskinot many people have it12:52
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Macerthat arm decompiler looks awesome12:55
Macerdid you see how it converted the code ?12:55
jacekowskithat's after you do quite a lot of work with asm12:56
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Macerimagine what good could be done on the n900 with it12:56
jacekowskidownload ida with x86 disasm12:57
jacekowskiand see what sort of results you get12:57
Macerjonwil: code your own decompiler! lol12:57
jacekowskiit gets better every version12:58
jacekowskibut it still needs a lot of information to be provided by user to give nice results12:58
Maceryeah... these examples they give are still impressive tho12:59
nealAnyone have some time to review my packages?
nealWould be appreciated...13:00
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Macerhow about we pool our money together and buy it for the n900 dev!13:03
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Maceri am curious... if you install it on a linux box won't multiple users have access to it?13:03
Maceror is the license not multi user?13:03
psycho_oreosits not multiuser, that 2240$USD13:04
psycho_oreosI iirc it costs $2000+USD per extra license which only covers one user increments13:05
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Macercan't you just set up a common user acct? :)13:06
Maceron the linux box?13:06
Macerthat is technically "1 user"13:06
jonwilThe license is "one human at a time" basically13:08
Macerthen time share it13:09
Macerand use it one at a time in a common user acct13:09
Macereither way... honestly.. if someone from the community got a hold of it they would jut shove it somewhere where everybody and theri mother could access it anyways13:09
jonwilI guarantee that if its leaked, the site I go for all my crap WILL have links13:10
jonwilIts where I found the latest x86 bits13:10
jonwilI just wish HexRays was better at C++ stuff (for another project I have)13:10
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* jonwil must read the bluz source code13:13
jonwilAparently the bluz source code contains some nice stuff about some of the DBUS calls I want to know more about13:13
Macerwell.. i'll keep an eye out for it ;)13:14
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SpeedEvilI'd be willing to contribute $10 to the purchase.13:16
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SpeedEvilBut - i have doubts you'd find another 270 peeps.13:16
psycho_oreossome may donate more, some may donate less13:18
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psycho_oreosthe bottom line is that even with little donations its better than forking out the full price yourself13:18
SpeedEvilWell - yes13:19
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cityLightsok, I am seeking to submit a fix to openvpn for maemo13:23
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jonwilI can think of about 1/2 dozen binaries I would love to run through ARM HexRays :P13:27
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ShadowJKis something wrong with openvpn for maemo?13:32
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* ShadowJK has been using it since getting his N90013:32
psycho_oreosShadowJK, I think it overwrites entries in /etc/resolv.conf13:33
ShadowJKwith what...13:34
ShadowJKmy resolv.conf still says "nameserver"13:35
ShadowJKI'm using fully static setup, the simple static example from openvpn"s homepage13:36
Maceri still use pptp lol13:36
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jonwilMy #1 and #2 items for running through HexRays would be and with and being #3 and #4 :)13:37
psycho_oreoswith nothing, it creates an empty /etc/resolv.conf file afaik. Though if you edit the nameservers for a conf file before hand (I can't remember exactly) it will append those entries in13:38
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Macerstill xfering over sshfs over wifi13:44
* ShadowJK doesn't use the openvpn applet btw, and also doesn't use dhcp over openvpn13:45
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jonwilooh neat, some of the CSD dbus interfaces support dbus introspection14:01
nealjonwil: I extgracted a few interfaces:
jonwilnothing there I dont already have14:06
jonwilI have Phone.Net already14:06
jonwiland the DSME and ICD and MCE stuff14:07
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jonwilThe interfaces that I dont have and want would be /com/nokia/phone/SIM for one14:09
jonwilwhich I dont have14:09
jonwiland that one doesnt support introspection14:10
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MacerOops. A bit of research  reinforced my fear here: if you've got a device that's part of a RAID group or, like in this case, assigned as a JBOD disk, the Areca controller won't let you run a SMART test on it. This is really unreasonable behavior for a disk controller aimed at enterprise use.14:15
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Macerjonwil: :)14:19
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SpeedEvilThe controller is probably doing Smart itself.14:22
SpeedEvilAnd aggregating them.14:22
Macerthat was from a blog14:28
Maceri just had my raid hiccup... no errors detected by the linux driver tho14:29
Maceri cant wait to get my synology lol14:29
Maceri need to quit using that thing anyways.14:30
nealjonwil: I also have,, and Phone.Net.xml14:30
nealjonwil: FWIW14:30
jonwilI have already, and all the GPRS stuff14:31
Macerwhat pkg extends the time the backlight stays on?14:31
LaoLang_cool_Any experience with GTD (getting things done) on n900?14:31
jonwilphone.ssc on the other hand I cold use14:33
jonwilcould use14:33
Macerklingon fonts?14:34
jonwilpoint it my way please14:34
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jonwilneal: if you have phone.ssc, I am interested :)14:36
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jonwiljacekowski, you still here?14:37
ShadowJKurgh, emmc might be dying in my n900 :/14:40
Macerwow really?14:41
Macerrun fsck :)14:42
ShadowJK[110185.748168] mmcblk1: error 1 sending read/write command, response 0x0, card status 0x90014:42
ShadowJKno fsck will really mess it up14:42
ShadowJKflash is bad like that14:42
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Maceri was joking14:43
Maceris there an easy way to mark the bad addresses?14:43
SpeedEvilThere are no bad addresses.14:43
SpeedEvilWell - there are.14:43
SpeedEvilBut the block addresses do not map uniquely to internal blocks.14:44
SpeedEvilIt's the result of the internal block allocation failing due to bad blocks that you're seeing.14:44
SpeedEvilIt may be that due to the wear leveling algorithm you may find that the errors are oving around in a 130M block, and eliminating that block from usage makes it work14:45
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xkr47did you also get a "Maemo 5 secoruity update" on your n900 ?14:48
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SpeedEvilxkr47: diginotar--14:49
* ShadowJK wonders what error 1 response 0 status 0x900 means14:51
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xkr47SpeedEvil, ok thx14:57
* SpeedEvil points ShadowJK to the mmc spec14:57
SpeedEvilIIRC there are no 'useful' codes14:57
SpeedEvilThat is - that'll tell you the device is coming tot he end of its life.14:57
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jonwilbah, the people I wanted to talk to are not around :(15:31
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ShadowJKhm, I can read back the entire partition16:10
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DocScrutinizerxkr47: see topic16:12
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aholleras a newbie, what does ccsu stand for? community*?16:34
infobotaholler meant: as a newbie, what does cssu stand for? community*?16:35
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cityLightsDocScrutinizer: hi16:42
cityLightsI can I commit a fix to openvpn maemo ?16:42
cityLightsthe script used to add the dns is wrong16:43
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infoboti heard ssu is
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cityLightswhere is mohammad?16:45
ahollerDocScrutinizer: thanks16:46
DocScrutinizerMohammadAG: where are you? ^^^16:47
DocScrutinizercityLights: does it matter where MohammadAG is?16:48
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cityLightswanted to know if he got his n950?16:52
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cityLightsalso maybe he can help me commit the openvpn fix16:52
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DocScrutinizer~seen javispedro17:32
infobotjavispedro <~javier@Maemo/community/contributor/javispedro> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 8d 16h 26m 23s ago, saying: 'nah nah nah nah..'.17:32
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cityLightshi khertan20:08
cityLightscan any one pls help me fix a small bug in openvpn?20:09
cityLightsthe maemo-resolv script is wrong20:09
cityLightshow can I submit a fix?20:09
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jonneis there a better e-mail client than modest for the n900?20:43
jonneit's fine for most things, but the lack of search is annoying sometimes20:44
jonnehard to find e-mail that's older than like a week20:44
* Sicelo uses mutt. there's a bunch of others, such as claws, etc20:44
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jonnethat is an interesting idea. mutt does search?20:45
psycho_oreosthere's also alpine20:45
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jonnewouldn't mind cli if it had more features and was faster20:45
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DocScrutinizermodest is a useless POC for a mailing client20:52
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nealDocScrutinizer: That's harsh.20:54
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DocScrutinizerI actually think a webmailer is not the worst idea for a mobile device like N90020:54
nealDocScrutinizer: I think it is great that it is free software and unfortunate that no community developped around it.20:55
nealDocScrutinizer: It lacks some features, but I think the architecture is sound.20:55
nealDocScrutinizer: As for a web mailer, I completely disagree: you can only use that if you are connected to the net.20:55
DocScrutinizerI wouldn't want to use it to do any serious mailing anyway20:56
nealDocScrutinizer: May be that is not the point.20:56
DocScrutinizer(only use it when connected) well, modest I can't use ever, for a lot of things20:58
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wiretappedis there a page listing all the OS options for n900?21:29
wiretappedi'm specifically interested only in dists which can make calls and have cellular data support21:30
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psycho_oreoswiretapped, I doubt there is even a list for all the supported linux anyway. There's probably less than a handful that is known to be able to work with N900. If you want cellular data support and be able to make/receive phone calls, it would probably boil down to 3 OS that is currently capable of doing that21:53
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psycho_oreosmaybe even two now that I checked one of the three OS that is capable of fulfilling two of your prerequisites21:58
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_rdI would like to circumvent a navit shortcoming with two shellscripts, one to setup car and one to setup bike navigation.22:13
_rdI have the shell scripts in place, I just would need a nice way to integrated them into maemo5....22:14
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_rd...either an entry in the settings would be nice or an entry in the panel (similar to the dual-gsm-3G switcher).22:15
_rdDoes anybody know which way is easiest and where to start reading?22:15
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Corsachmhm, in the end, was there an “upgrade” for n810 people after diablo?22:27
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DocScrutinizerpsycho_oreos: so, which of the 3 of maemo5 fremantle, SHR, meegoCE, is it you tested? :-D22:36
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DocScrutinizer_rd: iirc MohammadAG once built a generic app to add arbitrary cmdline execution button to system status "panel"22:40
_rdDocScrutinizer: thanks...I am sure, you do not remember the name, right?22:41
DocScrutinizersth like `sytraybutton --icon foo.gif --cmd "/bin/sh -c"22:41
DocScrutinizerno idea about the name22:41
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DocScrutinizerstarting point:
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psycho_oreos<DocScrutinizer> psycho_oreos: so, which of the 3 of maemo5 fremantle, SHR, meegoCE, is it you tested? :-D <--- only maemo4 fremantle, I was about say ***droid but I'm sure that'll set you on fire ;)23:26
psycho_oreosI didn't think about SHR being a potential candidate though23:27
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DocScrutinizerwell, seems I didn't think about nitdridiot ;-D23:29
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psycho_oreoshah, well that bumps up to the number of candidates that satisfies the user's requirements to four now23:30
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psycho_oreosDocScrutinizer, seen my epic reply about why meego/harmattan needs a proper keyboard like N950?23:33
* psycho_oreos is probably going to get grilled/drilled for saying that ;)23:34
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DocScrutinizerjavispedro: HEY!!!23:47
DocScrutinizer[2011-11-06 16:32:18] <infobot> javispedro <~javier@Maemo/community/contributor/javispedro> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 8d 16h 26m 23s ago, saying: 'nah nah nah nah..'.23:48
javispedroimpossible, I was here on wednesday23:48
DocScrutinizerjavispedro: maybe you stayed quiet on infobot-monitored chan?23:49
DocScrutinizerjavispedro: got the N9 for hostmode-hw surgery :-D23:50
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psycho_oreoshostmode-hw surgery? got any pics?23:55
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