| kerio | luke-jr: or using 3 badly overclocked PIIIs, and checking the answer | 00:00 |
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| kerio | at the same time, like a single cpu with redundancy | 00:00 |
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| luke-jr | lol | 00:03 |
| kerio | P3s rule | 00:03 |
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| tybollt | ok | 00:17 |
| tybollt | this wifi bug is really killing me | 00:17 |
| pronto | D; | 00:17 |
| tybollt | god darn | 00:17 |
| tybollt | Nookla needs to get the *** out of their *** and fix that... sigh... not a new maemo release just give us a bug fix to non working wifi and all is well | 00:18 |
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| ShadowJK | what wifi bug? | 00:19 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | wifi WFM | 00:20 |
| tybollt | sjk: After <insert random time period> connected to wifi it just magically stops working | 00:20 |
| tybollt | for no good reason | 00:20 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | never happened here | 00:20 |
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| tybollt | connect to 3G and connect back to the wifi - works again | 00:20 |
| lbt | Jaffa: ping | 00:21 |
| tybollt | now I have measured and I know that every inch of my apt is very well covered signal wise so it can't be that. | 00:21 |
| lbt | who edits mwn as well as Jaffa ? | 00:21 |
| Kht_n900 | Hi ! | 00:21 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | tybollt: sounds like losing DHCP lease, or even credentials for WEP/WPA | 00:21 |
| ShadowJK | lol | 00:22 |
| ShadowJK | I take it that "connect to wifi" means that his connection drops, and can't reconnect | 00:22 |
| ShadowJK | not that it silently stops working | 00:22 |
| tybollt | what does "can't reconnect" mean? | 00:22 |
| ShadowJK | Though disconnecting entirely like when going to 3g has the side effect of unloading the driver I think :) | 00:22 |
| tybollt | why can't it reconnect? | 00:22 |
| tybollt | anyway I heard GAN report something very similar to this so thought it was a known issue | 00:23 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | how the hell shall *we* now? | 00:23 |
| tybollt | *know | 00:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | nothing in syslog? | 00:24 |
| tybollt | DocScrutinizer51: dhcp lease... doubt it very much :) | 00:24 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | what's your router/AP saying? | 00:24 |
| tybollt | but the losing wpa credentials - how'd that work? | 00:24 |
| tybollt | the AP is dumb so doesn't say anything really | 00:25 |
| ShadowJK | I think that the bug where wifi is left consuming huge amounts of power despite phone using cellular data is a known WONTFIX bug ;p | 00:25 |
| tybollt | but fair enough I'll go ahead and debug that then :) | 00:25 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | much similar to dhcp. you got a wpa lease for a certain duration and you need to renew afaik | 00:25 |
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| tybollt | DocScrutinizer51: funny I don't see that on my laptop on the same network, ehr... on my laptop*s* :) | 00:26 |
| nox- | yeah you can set the ap to rekey after some time... | 00:26 |
| tybollt | olrite that may be a clue then, will see about that | 00:27 |
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| ShadowJK | But like, when he tries to connect it'd get a new WPA lease wouldn't it? | 00:28 |
| tybollt | sjk: The point is... if I read you correctly... the reloading of the driver (basically glorified insmod/modloads) is what reestablishes the connectiong? | 00:29 |
| tybollt | -g | 00:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer | should, but when things go nuts because of e.g PSM | 00:29 |
| habmala | Hi all, sorry for jumping in like this ;) (I know it can be annoying) I'm looking for an old forum thread but cant find it, what I need to know is where to place an icon that should be recognised by a .desktop file | 00:30 |
| habmala | and sorry for the long post ;) thanks in advance.. | 00:30 |
| ShadowJK | tybollt, that's my guess | 00:30 |
| ShadowJK | tybollt, but I still don't know whether your issue is that N900 thinks it's connected when it's not | 00:30 |
| ShadowJK | or that it's disconnected and thinks it's disconnected and can't either find AP or connect to AP when you try | 00:30 |
| tybollt | it doies think it is connected, the connection one is the one hilighted in the data-connection selection display | 00:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | so connection stalls | 00:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | much like it does when PSM goes apeshit | 00:32 |
| tybollt | PSwhatnow? | 00:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | AP kicking device out of ARP table due to not answering ARP request. Or failing lease renewal, for whatever, there are several possible causes for that | 00:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | power saving mode | 00:33 |
| tybollt | hmm | 00:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer | the thing where AP and device agree on sleeping for 5s now, and during that AP is buffering packets addressed for device | 00:34 |
| nox- | that wifi-using-power wontfix bug, is that bc it tries to reconnect to wifi to save 3g bw? | 00:34 |
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| ShadowJK | ok if it thinks it's connected, but no data flows, then I'd try with medium powersaving instead of the high powersaving | 00:35 |
| ShadowJK | nox-, dunno, it's left always scanning or always listening or something when it's supposed to just activate once every 5 minutes for a quick scan... or something like that | 00:35 |
| nox- | oh hm | 00:35 |
| ShadowJK | dunno, I just ifconfig wlan0 down when it happens :) | 00:35 |
| nox- | sounds broken | 00:36 |
| nox- | heh | 00:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | might be related to a connection config in N900 having "hidden" property | 00:37 |
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| nox- | ah | 00:37 |
| tybollt | DocScrutinizer51: you mean if the network is set to not broadcast SSID? | 00:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | for AP with hidden SSID the device needs to actively ping them to query if they are one of the known AP with hidden SSID | 00:37 |
| tybollt | hmmm | 00:38 |
| tybollt | ok | 00:38 |
| tybollt | so that's likely my problem | 00:38 |
| tybollt | and really s/hidden/non advertised/ | 00:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | so if you got both a network connection with hidden SSID configured on your device, and an AP with hidden SSID in vicinity, there might start doom | 00:38 |
| tybollt | fair enough | 00:39 |
| tybollt | now to figure out why only N900 and not ERANGE other wifi consumers does this :) | 00:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer | maybe they do? | 00:40 |
| habmala | might have fonund it, tnx anyway ;) | 00:40 |
| nox- | it could still only ping the `hidden' ap(s) every 5min like it does check the other wifi notworks | 00:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | yep, sure | 00:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer | but probably there are ways to easily introduce a bug there, like not asigning a tag "ignore" to AP MAC that didn't respond nicely to a query | 00:43 |
| nox- | yeah | 00:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer | figure the list has primary key ESSID | 00:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | instead of MAC | 00:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I noticed my laptop going stale/confused on multiple AP with identical SSID as well. Couldn't associate by MAC | 00:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | maybe a bug in WPA-supplicant or whatever | 00:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | multiple AP with hidden SSID will create same issue, just one magnitude of escalation worse :-P | 00:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer | well in the end you get what you deserve, hidden SSID are *strongly* deprecated :-P | 00:50 |
| tybollt | huh what? | 00:50 |
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| tybollt | why is hidden ssid wrong? | 00:51 |
| tybollt | or non broadcasted/advertised ssid | 00:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | introduces a number of vulnerabilities | 00:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer | while not adding a single bit of useful additinal security or whatever | 00:52 |
| Venemo | DocScrutinizer: this is a surprise for me | 00:52 |
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| tybollt | anyone using this? :S http://www.lcdskydd.se/popup_image.php?pID=81 | 00:54 |
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| kerio | what are those "buttons" for? | 00:55 |
| kerio | and where's the space for the led | 00:55 |
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| kerio | and how are you going to open the camera lid | 00:55 |
| kerio | and wtf, how do you open the kbd | 00:55 |
| tybollt | I was hoping someone'd tell me :D | 00:55 |
| tybollt | A brand new Protective Skin Case for your Nokia N900. Protects the phone that you love and adds a soft touch to your great gadget. The Skin Cases come with an Organic Anti-Dust (OAD) coating which is a special layer of Organic Anti-dust Material that is sprayed on the surface of the silicone case. This can avoid dust sticking to them. The case can be cleaned easily due to the anti-dust material. Great protection from light drops, scratches | 00:55 |
| nid0 | generic picture is generic? | 00:56 |
| tybollt | nid0: could be | 00:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer | wrong picture or wrong brain | 00:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | oops sory I picked my dog's brain this morning, left mine at home | 00:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | mybe s/dog/canary bird/ | 00:59 |
| cehteh | my self build case is the best anyways :P | 01:01 |
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| smhar | greetings | 01:05 |
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| smhar | how to copy select and copy text from a webpage in Firefox in N900? | 01:06 |
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| tybollt | so anyone tried a black silicone based cover for N900? | 01:09 |
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| timeless_mbp | smhar: does ctrl-a work? | 01:15 |
| nox- | <DocScrutinizer> I noticed my laptop going stale/confused on multiple AP with identical SSID as well. Couldn't associate by MAC - how does n900 cope with that? | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | nox-: never tried, there's no more AP with hidden SSID around here, and I don't need to use the AP of my neighbours anymore | 01:17 |
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| nox- | heh ok | 01:18 |
| nox- | i guess if it goes by signal strength maybe thats even `good enough'... | 01:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | So I didn't even try to associate to an open AP with non-unique name | 01:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer | but, in the end, for all AP with identical SSID they are supposed to form a network with same credentials and WPA/DHCP lease handover. So how would that be different on APs with shared SSID <hidden> | 01:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer | It can not work | 01:21 |
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| technomike | Unable to install Extra protocol support for Conversations and Contacts (MSN) | 01:24 |
| technomike | I wonder why though :S | 01:24 |
| crashanddie | lmao, in CSI, some powerdrill killed its owner because the power cable had been reversed, and it hence was "reversed polarity"... On a 110, alternative current power cable xD | 01:24 |
| technomike | LOL | 01:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | muhahaha | 01:24 |
| nox- | rofl | 01:25 |
| lbt | don't laugh... it could happen.... | 01:25 |
| technomike | hahahahaa really am lmao here | 01:25 |
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| nox- | lbt, i thought only on three-phase power? | 01:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | CSI, so close to reality the police gets nervous about gangsters gathering too much knowledge - YEAH | 01:25 |
| nox- | hehe yeah | 01:25 |
| lbt | nox-: you can't reverse three phase, silly... there's an odd number of wired | 01:26 |
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| nox- | no but if you connect the phases wrong a motor might run reverse | 01:26 |
| mkargar | hello | 01:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | nox-: absolutely | 01:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | in german it's called phase direction | 01:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | or rotation direction (sic!) | 01:28 |
| mkargar | i have n900!i deleted rare mp3 from my n900!how to i want recover it? | 01:28 |
| kerio | oh noes | 01:28 |
| smhar | timeless_mbp, I want a small selected text only not the whole page | 01:29 |
| tybollt | mkargar: riight click the tashbin and choose undelte... ... oh wait... | 01:29 |
| crashanddie | DocScrutinizer: it gets even more fun when you move the phase by 60 degrees on two phases, but not the third one... Mechanical fireworks | 01:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | nox-: there's even 3-phase plugs that have a switch for that :-P | 01:29 |
| lbt | mkargar: was it stored on the SD? | 01:29 |
| lbt | that's FAT32 and you may have some luck using an undelete tool... | 01:29 |
| nox- | if it was on the 32G partition or sdhc card those should be vfat so possibly recoverable by something like photorec or what it was called | 01:30 |
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| mkargar | lbt:no! | 01:30 |
| lbt | it's gone then | 01:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | seem to remember some killer swapped phase and PE on the plug of a drilling machine. Was that also CSI? | 01:31 |
| mkargar | tybollt:tashbin?! | 01:31 |
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| tybollt | hmm lots of gems at tmo :) | 01:32 |
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| tybollt | did jacek try flash 10 btw? | 01:32 |
| crashanddie | DocScrutinizer: yeah, on top of a in-construction prison | 01:32 |
| tybollt | what happened? | 01:32 |
| crashanddie | DocScrutinizer: I'm watching it now | 01:32 |
| mkargar | please help me? | 01:32 |
| nox- | mkargar, not even the MyDocs partition? | 01:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | lbt: eMMC also FAT32 | 01:33 |
| crashanddie | anyway, low battery, I should turn my laptop off before Hollywood predicts my death through electromagnetic induction of my testicles. Later | 01:33 |
| kerio | wtf... i can't access MyDocs through storage mode :| | 01:33 |
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| kerio | it's correctly unmounted on the n900 | 01:34 |
| mkargar | nox-:yes!I have mydoc partition! | 01:34 |
| nox- | mkargar, if the mp3 was on there try something like `photorec' | 01:35 |
| nox- | no guarantee but it `might' work... | 01:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | photorec? | 01:35 |
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| DocScrutinizer | for mp3? | 01:35 |
| nox- | well there may be others too | 01:35 |
| lcuk | photorec has a group of recognition plugins afaik | 01:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer | mc has unearse for ext2/ext3 :-/ | 01:36 |
| mkargar | nox-:photorec is recovery tool? | 01:36 |
| nox- | yeah for fat at least afaik | 01:37 |
| lcuk | yes, and mp3 is on the list | 01:37 |
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| lcuk | http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/File_Formats_Recovered_By_PhotoRec | 01:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | probably best is to plug into a windows PC and use native windows tools for unerasing files on vfat | 01:37 |
| * lcuk nods | 01:37 | |
| lcuk | why has this one file only got one home if its rare? | 01:38 |
| nox- | yeah just what i was thinking... `data thats not backed up isnt important by definition' | 01:38 |
| nox- | :) | 01:39 |
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| kerio | fucking automount fail | 01:39 |
| kerio | :| | 01:39 |
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| lcuk | i can understand if it was created on the device | 01:39 |
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| lcuk | and not had a chance to be gotten off yet | 01:39 |
| nox- | true | 01:40 |
| asj | lcuk: they claim to reover files with known headers, and then said *.txt files :) | 01:41 |
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| lcuk | asj, sure, its scanning for filenames - windows is clever like that :P | 01:42 |
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| kerio | lcuk: are you claiming there's a better way to distinguish a file's type than a TLA? | 01:42 |
| kerio | A WITCH I SAY, IT'S WITCHCRAFT | 01:43 |
| mkargar | nox-:ok!in fact,my problem not rare mp3!i recorded audio file by ''recorder'' program and saved it with ''file'' name!since of 5 min,i recorded another audio by ''recorder;; app!in proccessing save file,i choose same name(file) and it rewriten on the first audio file!but,i have firs recorded audio!!how to recover it? | 01:43 |
| * lcuk still gets confused by the linux mechanism of no extension requirement and shebangs (tho very very powerful) | 01:43 | |
| nox- | mkargar, oooh so you wrote over the same file :( | 01:43 |
| lcuk | kerio, in windows at least i can know at a glance that an apple is an apple | 01:43 |
| nox- | mkargar, as fat doesnt to cow like say zfs, id say the data is gone | 01:44 |
| lcuk | mkargar, you messed up now | 01:44 |
| lcuk | thats not the same as deletion | 01:44 |
| mkargar | nox-:*iwant first recorded audio! | 01:44 |
| nox- | indeed | 01:44 |
| kerio | mkargar: tough luck | 01:44 |
| kerio | next time, be more careful and make copies | 01:44 |
| lcuk | deletion invalidates just the link entry | 01:44 |
| lcuk | writing stuff over it may infact vape the data | 01:45 |
| nox- | if the first recording was longer maybe the end is still readable if find its `clusters'... | 01:45 |
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| lcuk | and no1 will know what | 01:45 |
| nox- | if you | 01:45 |
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| kerio | can the default mediaplayer open apple lossless files? | 01:45 |
| lcuk | heh. listen to the whole device as audio | 01:45 |
| lcuk | and see whether your ears explode first | 01:45 |
| kerio | lcuk: hahaha | 01:45 |
| lcuk | or you encounter the fragment | 01:45 |
| lcuk | but its mp3 | 01:46 |
| lcuk | so you are looking for frames (you said it was mp3?) | 01:46 |
| lcuk | which would be even worse | 01:46 |
| kerio | mp123 /dev/mmcblk0 | 01:46 |
| kerio | eventually you'll hit it! :D | 01:46 |
| lcuk | ASKJHSHSKJDHSSHJSDKHSAHJSHKDJSHASKJDHSKJSDHSAKHDKJSADHSAKDHSADHKDHSSHJSKHHKJ | 01:46 |
| mkargar | nox-:please help me?is it imposible recover it? | 01:47 |
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| kerio | can the deault media player read apple lossless or m4a/aac? | 01:47 |
| lcuk | mkargar, do not write anything else to the disk | 01:48 |
| nox- | mkargar, if the first recording was longer than the second then the end of the first one may still be on the flash | 01:48 |
| lcuk | contact a data recovery specialist | 01:48 |
| nox- | or at least dd the fs to an image on a pc and use that for recovery | 01:49 |
| nox- | copies of that... | 01:49 |
| mkargar | nox-:yes!first file was 88 min!second file is 6sec! | 01:49 |
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| mkargar | nox-:? | 01:51 |
| nox- | kerio, aac i think it can | 01:51 |
| kerio | apple lossless? :3 | 01:51 |
| nox- | dunno | 01:51 |
| nox- | if not maybe try mplayer? | 01:51 |
| kerio | nox-: that would be cheating | 01:52 |
| nox- | heh | 01:52 |
| kerio | also vlc > mplayer | 01:52 |
| kerio | PROVE ME WRONG | 01:52 |
| nox- | does vlc run on n900 too? | 01:52 |
| kerio | sure | 01:52 |
| nox- | oh heh | 01:52 |
| kerio | no frontend | 01:52 |
| kerio | cvlc | 01:52 |
| lcuk | mkargar, try the suggestions here, take a backup and run the photorec tool. see if it does anything and magically brings it back | 01:52 |
| nox- | ah | 01:52 |
| lcuk | but stop bloody writing to that disk | 01:52 |
| nox- | and in this case backup == image | 01:53 |
| lcuk | yes dd it | 01:53 |
| nox- | yes | 01:53 |
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| technomike | I love my N900, I use it for practically everything. If I could, I would use it to cook my meals, etc. There is probably a way to get it to cook, I mean, it does everything else... | 01:54 |
| mkargar | lcuk:ok!i install photorec! | 01:54 |
| lcuk | there is at least one cooking recipe app | 01:54 |
| lcuk | hildonised and optimised afaik :) | 01:54 |
| lcuk | pyrecipe | 01:55 |
| nox- | the touchscreen may not like dirty hands tho :) | 01:55 |
| lcuk | mm voice control? | 01:55 |
| nox- | heh | 01:55 |
| lcuk | "computer, make me bacon" | 01:56 |
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| kerio | technomike: well, duh | 01:56 |
| lcuk | ARGHGGHGHGHGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH i said make me bacon, not make me into bacon | 01:56 |
| kerio | read the linux-coffee howto and port bacon on it | 01:56 |
| technomike | hahahaha | 01:56 |
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| lcuk | we had bacon butties as the food at the wedding rececption this weekend. was the most awesome wedding reception i have ever been to | 01:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | speech recog lib -where? when? why not yet? | 01:57 |
| lcuk | DocScrutinizer, because only future computers have viable speech recog, but we need proper star trek communicator phone app once all the stuff gets open source | 01:58 |
| lcuk | including needing to flip it open using an accelometer gesture | 01:58 |
| lcuk | not just land/port | 01:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm, voice dialing and cmd seems to work pretty nice on N95 | 01:58 |
| lcuk | "computer phone see dive" | 01:59 |
| lcuk | "formatting c drive now" | 01:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | some 10 years ago I had a linux app that was able to learn 16 words, and sometimes even recognize them correctly | 01:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | vanished into oblivion :-( | 02:00 |
| lcuk | hehe | 02:00 |
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| kerio | the n900 has no voice dialing ._. | 02:01 |
| lcuk | DocScrutinizer, perhaps the problem is not trying to recognise things and fit input into boxes in a usual manner, its about adding context to the things it hears | 02:01 |
| lcuk | kerio, temporary problem, i bet its feasible :P | 02:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I'd be more than happy with nato alphabet plus alternate, control, escape, enter, backspace | 02:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | maybe plus 0..9 | 02:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | some special chars, like + - $ * # / | 02:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | no context, PLEASE! | 02:03 |
| nox- | having to spell out everything sounds slow tho | 02:04 |
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| tybollt | heh my gps thingy for the car has an amazing voice discovery | 02:05 |
| tybollt | basically never fails | 02:05 |
| asj | voice discovery? | 02:06 |
| tybollt | eh it's too late for me :) voice recognition/voice input system... | 02:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I don't mind a <press button> "alternate" >alternate on<, "delta" >dial command on, tell first char<, "whiskey" >double-u, 16 contacts<, "echo" >double-u eh, 1 contact<, "enter" >dialing contact 'Werner', number: 1, 3, 2, 2...< | 02:08 |
| lcuk | DocScrutinizer, i mean context as in your input, you specify what an utterance means | 02:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer | obviously alternate-D means dial, in example above | 02:09 |
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| asj | tybollt: ah ok | 02:12 |
| asj | tybollt: my car isn't bad either | 02:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | lcuk: you got the context problem all the time, no matter which MMI you use | 02:12 |
| kerio | "N900, kill Flanders" | 02:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer | hell, even my 10 years old 6210 knows how to dial one of 10 contacts that have spoken name trained. And it does that rather reliably (in silent environment) | 02:15 |
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| cehteh | somewhere i seen a pocket-sphinx port for the n900 .. without any useable apps around :/ | 02:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer | N95 recognizes contact names without any training, neither for correct pronounciation of contact names nor for speaker | 02:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer | so given the facts there's absolutely zero OS specific code in such a speech recognition function - except interfacing to audio for recording, and that's quite simple enough - why doesn'r Nokia bother to port that symbian speech recog to N900, I mean there's other closed source apps you need to install as a blob, so it can't be copyright issues or anything | 02:21 |
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| derf | Licensing issues, probably. | 02:22 |
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| derf | I doubt they own all the code. | 02:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | blah, the LICENCE IT, NOKIA! you got the money | 02:22 |
| ShadowJK | I doubt they wrote any of it :P | 02:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | then* | 02:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | I bet they didn't | 02:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | as they didn't write a sngle line of code for bme | 02:23 |
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| asj | I wonder if it's a service that wasn't used very much | 02:25 |
| asj | I know I tried it on my Symbian phones, then found the user interface to the voice recognition useless and never used it again | 02:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer | asj: the point is on N900 the users are in cntrol over the user interface, if only Nokia would provide the lib | 02:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer | so probably the chance to put this tho proper use and usability first time ever | 02:27 |
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| asj | DocScrutinizer: are there no oss options? | 02:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | never found any. There are ultraheavy universitary projects for full text recognition but nothing simple and lightweight | 02:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer | as mentioned above, 10 years ago there was an app that could learn like 16 words | 02:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | more like a PoC | 02:30 |
| nox- | hmm http://cmusphinx.sourceforge.net/ | 02:30 |
| nox- | looks like this is opensource? | 02:31 |
| mortini | DocScrutinizer: i remember seeing something about even the commercial speech recognition stuff has stalled since the early 2k's | 02:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer | nox-: seems like that's one of the 2 much-too-heavy univeritary projects | 02:33 |
| nox- | heh | 02:33 |
| nox- | maybe the algos are just complex... | 02:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | yep, as it's true speech-to-text, not a simple recognition of a limited set of words | 02:34 |
| nox- | aah ok | 02:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | S2T never worked THAT great | 02:35 |
| nox- | still theres something called `pocketsphinx' so it might run on n900... | 02:35 |
| mortini | probably not a lot of comercial good in it, either, since the delta between what's possible and what it'd take to be profitable is probably pretty large. | 02:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | as you always run into the context problem changing meaning and thus spelling of similarly sounding words | 02:35 |
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| nox- | yeah tho i guess context is also used to improve recognition rates | 02:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | on "dial number - - Werner - - OK" there's just as much context | 02:37 |
| nox- | true | 02:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | or "start application -- xchat - - OK" | 02:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer | "set alarm - - one, two, oh, oh -- OK" | 02:38 |
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| kerio | rsync to sync music through usb is fucking awesome | 02:40 |
| kerio | i'm scared of unplugging my usb cable now | 02:41 |
| kerio | tracker :( | 02:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | hehe | 02:42 |
| kerio | is there a way to stop it and force it to start from the absolute scratch? | 02:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | sure | 02:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | just forgot how | 02:43 |
| BugBlue | rsync? yes but why? | 02:43 |
| kerio | BugBlue: what else? | 02:43 |
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| BugBlue | just start it again and rsync will make sure what needs to be transfered | 02:44 |
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| kerio | not the transfer | 02:47 |
| kerio | the stupid tracker | 02:47 |
| kerio | ._. | 02:47 |
| kerio | i know rsync is smart enough to figure all things by himself | 02:47 |
| kerio | (except that vfat is stupid so it needs a bigger time window and that os x is stupid so it needs to exclude .DS_Store) | 02:48 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer: I HAVE THE URGE TO OVERCLOCK TO MAKE IT GO FASTER | 02:48 |
| kerio | WHAT CAN I DO | 02:48 |
| lcuk | tell people to optimise their apps so they dont waste cpu or battery | 02:51 |
| kerio | lcuk: *hahahahahaha* | 02:52 |
| kerio | hehe | 02:52 |
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| kerio | -sigh- | 02:52 |
| kerio | :( | 02:52 |
| cehteh | kerio: rsync -P for once .. | 02:52 |
| cehteh | and use another filesystem than fat :P | 02:52 |
| cehteh | (well there is some parameter for rsync to support some timestamp fuzz) | 02:53 |
| kerio | yeah, i'll just reformat MyDocs to use ext2 | 02:53 |
| kerio | and -P just tells him to continue where he left off | 02:53 |
| kerio | which is *useless* since it's a local transfer | 02:53 |
| cehteh | urgs .. why not ext3 or ext4? :P | 02:53 |
| nox- | is ext3 really better for flash? | 02:54 |
| kerio | ubifs is good for flash | 02:55 |
| cehteh | its better optimized meanwhile .. and the writes to the log are neglectible | 02:55 |
| kerio | or so i heard | 02:55 |
| cehteh | ubifs is for raw flash, not mmc/sd | 02:55 |
| cehteh | the root filesystem is ubifs but you cant use that on blockdevices | 02:56 |
| cehteh | ext4 will only work with an extended kernel, just for the record (anyways, i use it) | 02:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer | nox-: >>...and is successfully used on IPhone, Nokia Maemon devices and on Windows Mobile.<< (pocketsphinx) | 02:58 |
| nox- | heh | 02:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | looks like the text itself was dictated using sphinx :-P the "typos" are phonetic, like "ariphmetics" | 02:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-D | 02:59 |
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| Skynets | hi | 03:00 |
| Skynets | couple of questions | 03:00 |
| Skynets | #1 | 03:00 |
| Skynets | good app manager alternative | 03:00 |
| cehteh | fapman | 03:00 |
| asj | Skynets: fapman | 03:00 |
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| Skynets | srsly guys | 03:00 |
| Skynets | oh | 03:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | what now? | 03:01 |
| Skynets | its called fapman | 03:01 |
| Skynets | lol | 03:01 |
| cehteh | DocScrutinizer: yestereday while biking i could have used a sphinx input method for xchat | 03:01 |
| Skynets | im in "all" | 03:01 |
| Skynets | cant see fapan | 03:01 |
| asj | Skynets: "faster application manager" | 03:01 |
| cehteh | Faster Application Manager | 03:01 |
| * DocScrutinizer sighs | 03:02 | |
| Skynets | thanks | 03:02 |
| kerio | awesome program, awesomer name | 03:02 |
| * kerio is easily amused | 03:02 | |
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| Skynets | cant find it.... | 03:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | nox-: last time I checked there was only sphinx3 & 4, no pocketsphinx :-D | 03:03 |
| Skynets | MAEMO EXTRAS DEVEL = failed to refresh | 03:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | retry in 2 hours | 03:04 |
| nox- | ah same issue i have with the tools repo | 03:04 |
| Skynets | :( | 03:04 |
| Skynets | is there any other repos i should add | 03:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | akamei is out for getting new beer | 03:04 |
| Skynets | that are not for maemo | 03:04 |
| Skynets | like ones with roms | 03:04 |
| Skynets | and ports | 03:04 |
| Skynets | and apps that arent in the maemo repos | 03:05 |
| nox- | had to manually grab traceroute tcpdump less using the pc and scp them to the phone | 03:05 |
| cehteh | DocScrutinizer: pocketsphinx was somewhere mentioned on t.m.o iirc not packaged for an official repo but available on some webpage | 03:05 |
| nox- | and dpkg -i... :/ | 03:05 |
| cehteh | (official including community repos) | 03:05 |
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| Skynets | my otrher question is.... how can i access a windows shared folder from the n900 | 03:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmmm, integrating pocketsphinx into keyboard driver, appstarter, etc might make a nice project, indeed | 03:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | s/etc/dialer, contacts, etc/ | 03:12 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer meant: hmmm, integrating pocketsphinx into keyboard driver, appstarter, dialer, contacts, etc might make a nice project, indeed | 03:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | mediaplayer \o/ | 03:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | "skip to next song" | 03:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | "playback album vision thing" | 03:14 |
| nox- | btw re mediaplayer... can you tell it to play an albin in track order instead of alphabetically? | 03:15 |
| nox- | album even | 03:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer | lol, good question | 03:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer | 01 - Jihad, 02 - Colors, 03 - Giving Ground, 04 - Finland Red, Egypt White, 05 - Rain From Heaven | 03:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | WFM :-P | 03:19 |
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| nox- | yeah but that requires retagging then right? (not just renaming) | 03:20 |
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| Skynets | is there an alternative to the media player? | 03:22 |
| Skynets | with an equalizer | 03:22 |
| sheepbat | symfonie has one | 03:23 |
| sheepbat | audio only though | 03:23 |
| exelero | is possible to use gps in offline mode? | 03:25 |
| nox- | i think you can get a fix, but not use the mapping app | 03:26 |
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| cehteh | exelero: yes, takes long to get a fix and dont move the device until you have a fix (thats faster than) | 03:27 |
| cehteh | and dont use ovi maps :P | 03:27 |
| exelero | and is possible to view output of gps in xterminal? | 03:27 |
| cehteh | mappero works fine some weeks ago i biked through france entirely offline (preloaded maps) | 03:27 |
| cehteh | there are some apps for that, dunno about direct gps from console but there is a gps loggger and a minigpsd | 03:28 |
| Macer | ok | 03:28 |
| cehteh | and a handful other apps | 03:28 |
| Macer | how do i initiate a skype video call? | 03:28 |
| Macer | it doesnt seem to want to do it | 03:28 |
| Macer | if someone calls me and does it... it works | 03:29 |
| cehteh | Macer: if you partner has video capabiliity it shows that | 03:29 |
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| Macer | they do | 03:29 |
| cehteh | in the contacts app 'make video call' | 03:29 |
| Macer | they just called me and it popped up | 03:29 |
| Macer | but my n900 isnt picking up on their vid stuff | 03:29 |
| cehteh | works for me | 03:29 |
| Macer | :( | 03:29 |
| Macer | damnit | 03:29 |
| Macer | let me see again | 03:30 |
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| lcuk | isnt luke-jr doing some console gps dump thing? | 03:31 |
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| cehteh | he was playing with reverse engineer gps access on the lowest level .. | 03:31 |
| cehteh | getting data out from the normal api is way easier | 03:32 |
| cehteh | iirc you can query it by dbus | 03:32 |
| lcuk | god damned cigs, why when i reach for a pack i realise i already finished them and have to make rollups | 03:32 |
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| Skynets | damn transfer speeds from pc to the n900 by wifi are SLOWWWW | 03:33 |
| Skynets | like 400kb/s | 03:33 |
| Macer | ok | 03:33 |
| Macer | got it | 03:33 |
| Macer | had to readd the field | 03:33 |
| Macer | lol | 03:33 |
| exelero | let's test my speed | 03:33 |
| exelero | :D | 03:33 |
| Macer | awesome. works good over 3G | 03:34 |
| Macer | :) | 03:34 |
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| exelero | linux/maemo is not compatible with WPA2 crypt. of wireles ?? | 03:34 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Er? | 03:35 |
| exelero | all times i can't connect from my phone(n900) or ubuntu to my adhock wireles network :) | 03:35 |
| exelero | with wpa | 03:35 |
| exelero | only on WEP | 03:35 |
| exelero | .. :-< | 03:35 |
| cehteh | wpa works for me | 03:35 |
| cehteh | power saving on the highest setting doesnt work with my ap | 03:36 |
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| asj | wpa2 works for me | 03:48 |
| Sho_ | Anyone familiar with the problem that the latest Pidgin for Diablo has broken status bar icons? | 03:48 |
| exelero | Skynets, my speed on wireles lan , 500kb/s(upload) and 1700kb/s(download) with winscp | 03:49 |
| exelero | 0,5MB up , 1,7MB down | 03:49 |
| exelero | :-) | 03:49 |
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| mortini | that's what she said? | 03:50 |
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| luke-jr | Macer: hahahaha | 03:51 |
| luke-jr | lcuk: cehteh: low-level GPS dump to stdout working 100% now; NMEA output for gpsd working ~90% | 03:51 |
| Macer | huh? | 03:52 |
| Macer | what is funny? | 03:53 |
| Macer | it worked great | 03:53 |
| Macer | :) | 03:53 |
| Macer | i was vid chatting with my son who is at my parents house now | 03:53 |
| Macer | hopefully skype didnt hijack my 3G sppeds :-P | 03:54 |
| Macer | speed | 03:54 |
| * DocScrutinizer wonders how to access GPS when rapuyama is off (which it is supposed to be in offline mode) | 03:54 | |
| DocScrutinizer | maybe AT+CFUN=0 | 03:54 |
| luke-jr | DocScrutinizer: NFC what rapuyama is | 03:55 |
| luke-jr | nor any of that AT nonsense | 03:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | modem | 03:55 |
| luke-jr | probably can't then | 03:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | GPS connected to modem connected to AP | 03:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | modem off -> no access to GPS | 03:56 |
| nox- | rapuyama is the 3g modem? | 03:56 |
| luke-jr | AP = Access Point | 03:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | yep | 03:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | Application Processor | 03:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | *cough* | 03:56 |
| luke-jr | don't make conflicting acronyms | 03:56 |
| MohammadAG51 | A Prick | 03:56 |
| nox- | heh | 03:57 |
| luke-jr | SoC or OMAP works fine | 03:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | k | 03:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | at+cfun=? sets modem fnctions to several power down modes | 03:57 |
| luke-jr | I wrote a blob to low-level initialize rapuyama | 03:57 |
| luke-jr | DocScrutinizer: nothing I have seen uses AT commands… | 03:58 |
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| luke-jr | at least, it works for me | 03:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | ok, 0x34FF2A001D2FAC002A then | 03:58 |
| luke-jr | no idea if anyone else tested it | 03:58 |
| luke-jr | wtf is that | 03:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-P | 03:59 |
| GeneralAntilles | Is DataViz just distributing a .deb for docs to go? | 03:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, for you it doesn't mean anything more than any AT nonsense | 03:59 |
| luke-jr | DocScrutinizer: it's a blob because I just took strace output and ported it to C | 03:59 |
| Macer | whats with the phone not showing videos recorded by the cam on the tv out? | 03:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | for others AT nonsense is more legible than any hexdump of rapuyama mmap interface | 04:00 |
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| luke-jr | DocScrutinizer: irrelevant when N900 doesn't use AT nonsense | 04:00 |
| luke-jr | is this rapuyama protocol documented anywhere btw? | 04:01 |
| * DocScrutinizer frowns | 04:01 | |
| DocScrutinizer | luke-jr: I'm just to lazy to use an epic length explanation of the concepts of soft-off in modems, when I can say AT+CFUN instead, which is a tag to summarize all the concepts that are behind that, no matter if communicated to modem in hex, binary, AT, or tonal | 04:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | or by pulling strings | 04:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | of course I'm well aware the only thing that talks AT is the braindamaged pnatd | 04:05 |
| luke-jr | whatever | 04:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer | and I'd really like it to have AT commands for engineering mode (%EM) and also for talking to GPS (whatever those might be in the sane world) | 04:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | in pnatd | 04:10 |
| luke-jr | wtf is pnatd? ☺ | 04:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | AT nonsense | 04:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | /usr/bin/pnatd | 04:11 |
| * nox- is somehow reminded of `winmodems'... | 04:13 | |
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| DocScrutinizer | yup | 04:13 |
| luke-jr | winmodem == telephony card | 04:19 |
| luke-jr | it's really not Windows' fault that Linux still has no software modem stack | 04:19 |
| LiraNuna | how can I profile on the N900? | 04:19 |
| luke-jr | gprof? | 04:20 |
| LiraNuna | so I need debug versions on dependent libraries? | 04:20 |
| LiraNuna | do* | 04:20 |
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| Skynets | does the n900 repo work now | 04:24 |
| Skynets | to get that fap app | 04:25 |
| microlith | ? | 04:25 |
| Skynets | extras devel repo or something like that was down | 04:27 |
| Skynets | couldnt get fapman | 04:27 |
| Skynets | or fapapp | 04:27 |
| Skynets | or wtv its called | 04:27 |
| luke-jr | … | 04:28 |
| luke-jr | sicko | 04:28 |
| microlith | the repos haven't been down in a while, iirc | 04:28 |
| microlith | oh, faster application manager | 04:28 |
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| Skynets | nitdroid couldnt come at a better time | 04:30 |
| Skynets | GO DJSTEVE | 04:30 |
| nox- | microlith, apt-get update so far only got 404 on the tools repo at least | 04:30 |
| microlith | huh | 04:30 |
| * microlith doesn't have tools on his device | 04:30 | |
| nox- | microlith, manual downloading of debs worked so i guess its some akamai issue... | 04:30 |
| luke-jr | Skynets: as if NITdroid works | 04:35 |
| Skynets | what do u mean | 04:35 |
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| n900-space | hi all | 05:14 |
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| n900-space | when we take the backup and select "communication and calendar", all the conversations r backed up right? | 05:16 |
| matthew- | SpeedEvil: Heyo | 05:16 |
| matthew- | You're good? | 05:16 |
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| matthew- | Long time no speak | 05:16 |
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| SpeedEvil | matthew-: Not especially good no. But mostly OK. | 05:40 |
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| CasTTeLLo | hello | 06:19 |
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| CasTTeLLo | looking for Malaysia users.. | 06:22 |
| CasTTeLLo | so silent | 06:24 |
| Ken-Young | Europe is asleep. | 06:24 |
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| CasTTeLLo | so u r from?? | 06:25 |
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| Ken-Young | Cambridge, MA, USA. | 06:25 |
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| Jaffa | lbt: GeneralAntilles | 08:50 |
| Stskeeps | morn jaffa | 08:50 |
| Jaffa | Morning | 08:50 |
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| mece | back at work. Bleh :/ | 09:24 |
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| mece | Thanks Stskeeps. 6 weeks of sunny weather in the archipelago does not do well for motivation apparently. | 09:26 |
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| LiraNuna | LiraNuna> how can I profile on the N900? | 09:50 |
| LiraNuna | <luke-jr> gprof? | 09:50 |
| rmrfchik | heh, MWKN link in RSS looks like http://www.mwkn.net/2010/31/ | 09:50 |
| LiraNuna | where can I find that ON the N900? | 09:50 |
| rmrfchik | which gives directory listing | 09:50 |
| luke-jr | LiraNuna: emerge gprof | 09:50 |
| LiraNuna | luke-jr, ahha | 09:51 |
| LiraNuna | not all are running gentoo on our N900s | 09:52 |
| luke-jr | your loss | 09:53 |
| luke-jr | :D | 09:53 |
| Khertan | Morning | 09:53 |
| LiraNuna | luke-jr, I'd like to use my N900 as a functional phone | 09:53 |
| LiraNuna | you know, you make calls | 09:53 |
| LiraNuna | to* | 09:53 |
| luke-jr | haven't found an OS for it that does that yet | 09:53 |
| timeless_mbp | LiraNuna: end user! | 09:54 |
| * timeless_mbp looks for an end-user-begone | 09:54 | |
| LiraNuna | luke-jr, maemo does it pretty well | 09:54 |
| luke-jr | LiraNuna: nah, Maemo takes 5-10 seconds from when it starts ringing until you can answer the call | 09:54 |
| LiraNuna | yeah there aer problems | 09:54 |
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| mece | Free Heroes 2 passed extas QA, but the demodata package is still missing votes. So I think I'll wait for that. What do you think? | 09:58 |
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| hrw | [A | 10:02 |
| hrw | morning | 10:02 |
| peb | morning .. | 10:02 |
| mece | good morning | 10:02 |
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| n900-space | hey everyone | 10:12 |
| n900-space | need to confirm one thing | 10:12 |
| n900-space | for the emmc flash | 10:12 |
| n900-space | i have downloaded the latest vanilla version of emmc | 10:13 |
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| n900-space | and now downloading the latest pr 1.2 | 10:13 |
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| n900-space | so following the instructions here https://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware#Updating_.26_Flashing_your_device | 10:13 |
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| n900-space | i'm supposed to update the flash the device with the latest pr1.2 first | 10:14 |
| n900-space | without the R switch | 10:14 |
| n900-space | and then flash the emmc ? | 10:14 |
| n900-space | and thats it right ? | 10:14 |
| sobczyk | hi is there a way to recover IM passwords on n900? | 10:14 |
| n900-space | without rebooting in between | 10:14 |
| timeless_mbp | as long as you flash both w/o rebooting between | 10:14 |
| sobczyk | specifically viop password | 10:14 |
| timeless_mbp | sobczyk: most stuff is in gconf | 10:14 |
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| timeless_mbp | ~/.rtcom-accounts/accounts.cfg | 10:17 |
| timeless_mbp | your password is there | 10:17 |
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| sobczyk | timeless_mbp: already checked that, there is all except passwords in that file | 10:19 |
| timeless_mbp | well, i have 3 passwords in that file | 10:20 |
| timeless_mbp | 2 gtalks and a skype | 10:20 |
| * timeless_mbp goes fishing | 10:20 | |
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| girishr | anyone has experience with arm/neon ? | 10:21 |
| timeless_mbp | i learned to dislike both | 10:21 |
| timeless_mbp | do i get points for that? :) | 10:21 |
| jacekowski | morning | 10:23 |
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| sobczyk | timeless_mbp: I can't find any passwords there :( | 10:26 |
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| timeless_mbp | my passwords might be from 1.0 | 10:27 |
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| timeless_mbp | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=41164 should indicate where they are | 10:31 |
| timeless_mbp | but it's a long thread and i don't believe tmo exists | 10:31 |
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| sobczyk | browsing that one | 10:31 |
| Khertan | haha ... i wanted to vote for free heroes ... | 10:33 |
| Khertan | but login / pass didn't work | 10:33 |
| Khertan | If you just created your account in garage.maemo.org, try again in a few minutes.Thank you. | 10:33 |
| mece | Khertan, doh | 10:33 |
| Khertan | héhé normal i didn't have garage account | 10:33 |
| mece | Khertan, this one needs votes.. | 10:33 |
| mece | http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/fheroes2-demodata/1.0-maemo-3/ | 10:33 |
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| Khertan | yep but i can't :) | 10:34 |
| mece | doh | 10:34 |
| Khertan | and will not create a garage account just for voting :) | 10:34 |
| mece | heh | 10:34 |
| mece | any super testers on here? | 10:34 |
| Khertan | sorry i delete mine to protest again maemo extra repository | 10:34 |
| Khertan | and their qa :) | 10:34 |
| mece | Already got 2 supertester votes on the demodata package. | 10:34 |
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| mece | Khertan, The supertester bit is a big help. | 10:35 |
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| Khertan | supertester ? | 10:36 |
| Khertan | what s ? | 10:36 |
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| mece | people whose votes count for more. you need only 3 supertester votes to pass qa | 10:37 |
| Khertan | how many people have this supertester bits ? | 10:38 |
| MohammadAG | 4 I think | 10:38 |
| Khertan | and how there are choosen ? | 10:38 |
| Khertan | 4 only ... haha | 10:38 |
| MohammadAG | I could be wrong you know :) | 10:38 |
| Khertan | yes :) | 10:38 |
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| mece | MohammadAG, you're wrong : http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/fheroes2/0.5-maemo-14/ | 10:39 |
| * Khertan will try his obs compiled package on n900 | 10:39 | |
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| mece | Khertan, whats OBS? | 10:40 |
| MohammadAG | mece, hmm, only 3 there | 10:40 |
| Khertan | lol and torpedo48 as supertester | 10:40 |
| Khertan | the guys which report many false error on many package | 10:40 |
| Khertan | lol | 10:40 |
| Khertan | epicfail again | 10:40 |
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| Khertan | mece, | 10:41 |
| Khertan | mece, https://build.obs.maemo.org/ | 10:41 |
| Khertan | :) | 10:41 |
| Khertan | open build service | 10:41 |
| mece | MohammadAG, and it has passed, so only 3 needed. | 10:41 |
| mece | Khertan, interesting :) | 10:41 |
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| Khertan | :) in testing ... few people have access | 10:42 |
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| Khertan | but you can ask for i think | 10:42 |
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| MohammadAG | compiz crashed grr | 10:43 |
| frals | hmm vdvsx is a supertester.. need to go poke him to vote for fmms :P | 10:43 |
| mece | MohammadAG, how'd you manage that? | 10:44 |
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| iPeter- | hi | 10:45 |
| frals | mece: does the 4 "supertester" votes bypass the 10d quarantine? | 10:45 |
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| iPeter- | is there any way to disable in opera that mobile thing, i hate when i go to google and it turns to mobile google | 10:46 |
| timeless_mbp | hrm, they must be hidden by mission control | 10:46 |
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| mece | frals, I doubt that. But I hope it does. | 10:47 |
| mece | frals, and it's 3 super testers, not 4 :) | 10:47 |
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| frals | mece: alright, please let me know if you find out :) | 10:53 |
| mece | yeps. | 10:53 |
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| mece | achipa, very well put: http://achipa.blogspot.com/2010/08/flash-versioning-gone-wrong-or-should.html | 10:59 |
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| mece | achipa_zzz, that is :D | 10:59 |
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| crashanddie | is any one else reading "achipizza" for some reason? | 11:12 |
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| CasTTeLLo | hi | 11:16 |
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| mece | 'ello | 11:17 |
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| lcuk | morning #maemo \o | 11:20 |
| MohammadAG51 | alterego, ping | 11:20 |
| MohammadAG51 | morning lcuk | 11:20 |
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| mece | lcuk o/ | 11:21 |
| ThoMe | Hiho | 11:21 |
| ThoMe | i would like use java on my phone | 11:21 |
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| jacekowski | don't | 11:22 |
| ThoMe | i have icedtea6 installe | 11:22 |
| ThoMe | but i can't use java in my browser :-( | 11:22 |
| jacekowski | yep | 11:22 |
| jacekowski | there is no plugin for that | 11:22 |
| ThoMe | jacekowski: and for a another java-version? | 11:22 |
| jacekowski | there is not enough memory for java shit | 11:22 |
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| rmrfchik | jacekowski: don't tell that to my SE z710i with 1Mb RAM ;) | 11:27 |
| rmrfchik | It even has 3d in java. | 11:28 |
| rmrfchik | That's ME, of course | 11:28 |
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| frals | mornin lcuk o/ | 11:29 |
| jacekowski | rmrfchik: java != java ME | 11:29 |
| jacekowski | that's so much different | 11:29 |
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| infobot | noobmonk3y <c2b06924@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.176.105.36> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 9d 22h 47m 13s ago, saying: 'akshey: joiku has improved alot - manaed to use it for a weekend a few weeks ago and dloaded 2.8gb in the weekend with over 8 people connected :)'. | 11:34 |
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| rmrfchik | jacekowski: that's a demagogism i think. technically you can get java se on N900 hardware with reasonable speed. Not with maemo/icedtea btw | 11:34 |
| jacekowski | you would need jazelle support | 11:35 |
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| achipa | mece: thx | 11:44 |
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| MiXu- | Any news about Flash 10 on N900? | 11:45 |
| mece | no. | 11:45 |
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| achipa | I guess that's the next thing that will go as the channel topic | 11:46 |
| MiXu- | Adobe is gay. :( | 11:46 |
| mece | although I'm running "flash 10" on mine. Thanks to achipa :) | 11:46 |
| MiXu- | I hope flash will die. | 11:46 |
| achipa | MiXu-: they are working on it ;) | 11:46 |
| mece | how do iphones watch videos online? | 11:46 |
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| MiXu- | mece: with apps | 11:46 |
| mece | yeah, but how do the apps do it? | 11:47 |
| achipa | which videos ? mostly with streaming apps, quicktime, whatever | 11:47 |
| achipa | you know, like mplayer rtsp://this.that.com/video | 11:47 |
| mece | well there are a lot of sites that support ipad for example, I guess facebook does too.. | 11:47 |
| mece | the site detects and sends a different video I think. | 11:47 |
| mece | so why couldn't we utilize the same? | 11:48 |
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| mece | ouff, got to get some foods. bbl. | 11:48 |
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| achipa | mece: because they are not open source and so it's iffy to extract the URLs | 11:54 |
| achipa | achipa: but you're correct that technically we could play them back just fine | 11:55 |
| achipa | talking to myself... time for coffee | 11:55 |
| chem|st | I am so glad n00bs don't even know what IRC is... | 11:56 |
| MohammadAG51 | what's IRC? | 11:56 |
| MohammadAG51 | :p | 11:56 |
| chem|st | MohammadAG51: I love you too! | 11:56 |
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| MohammadAG51 | aww | 11:57 |
| chem|st | just read a post from someone new to N900 and he was asking if some of the devs could make the screen behave more like a capacitive screen.. | 11:59 |
| MohammadAG51 | why would i make my N900 worse, and... wtf? | 12:00 |
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| chem|st | exactly... seems to have problems with responsiveness as he is used to iProne | 12:04 |
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| MohammadAG51 | tbh capactive sensitivity annoys me | 12:06 |
| jacekowski | it would be nice to get pressure sensitivity | 12:06 |
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| chem|st | jacekowski: what do you mean? that you push harder to drag icons instead of turning desktop? | 12:07 |
| jacekowski | i would go with harder to click | 12:07 |
| jacekowski | and light touch to drag | 12:08 |
| jacekowski | but that would be good idea as well | 12:08 |
| chem|st | ok makes sense in some way | 12:08 |
| MohammadAG51 | hildon-home is open source afaik | 12:09 |
| chem|st | yes just copy the mypaint part over and set the limits yourself | 12:09 |
| MohammadAG51 | not a C enthusiast | 12:09 |
| * MohammadAG51 pokes lcuk :p | 12:09 | |
| BCMM | C has enthusiasts? | 12:10 |
| MohammadAG51 | heh | 12:10 |
| MohammadAG51 | i just hate C :P | 12:11 |
| BCMM | id've thought it was a bit like assembler - whether you like it or not, it's there, and you use it constantly, directly or not | 12:11 |
| BCMM | i'm not sure people get opinions... | 12:11 |
| chem|st | ;) | 12:11 |
| toggles_w | hey! c rocks | 12:11 |
| BCMM | also, C is indeed kinda nice | 12:11 |
| MohammadAG51 | true, but programming in it sucks | 12:11 |
| MohammadAG51 | well, for a C newbie anyways | 12:11 |
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| BCMM | as a C newbie, i'm going to claim that there is a class of fairly simple but not totally trivial programs that are easier to write in C than in certain higher-level languages (that would be perfectly capable of the task) | 12:13 |
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| psycho_oreos | nevermind, found it | 12:30 |
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| toggles_w | wow, that was easy... | 12:45 |
| pronto | oh? | 12:45 |
| psycho_oreos | not so when you had a brain fart at that moment | 12:46 |
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| TomaszD | http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=49100c98359a56ea4e8c9a76e3d625cdb25f25f5 | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | yes? :P | 12:47 |
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| TomaszD | nothing, just interesting | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | we do have kernel developers working to make meego n900 happen :) | 12:47 |
| TomaszD | lbt, no truck on the horizon I assume? | 12:47 |
| TomaszD | yeah, but are you going to have a separate kernel tree for n900 drivers or will those go upstream StippenG | 12:48 |
| TomaszD | Stskeeps, | 12:48 |
| Stskeeps | upstream | 12:48 |
| TomaszD | (autocomplete failure) | 12:48 |
| toggles_w | very cool | 12:50 |
| lbt | TomaszD: we have a parcel! | 12:50 |
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| toggles_w | now just add bme and graphics... | 12:50 |
| lcuk | lbt, new toys! | 12:50 |
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| * lcuk wonders what the world would be like without closed source graphics | 12:52 | |
| toggles_w | better | 12:52 |
| TomaszD | lbt, woo! | 12:52 |
| TomaszD | lbt, crossing fingers it's from me | 12:53 |
| lcuk | toggles_w, indeed | 12:53 |
| lbt | it is... but I am swamped at the moment... don't want to rush it | 12:55 |
| TomaszD | lbt, alright, no problem :) take your time. It took 11 days to arrive | 12:56 |
| * ShadowJK wonders if the bme <-> kernel interface is going to stay the same for N900 MeeGo :) | 12:56 | |
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| rmrfchik | jacekowski: seems like N900's CPU has jazelle | 12:59 |
| rmrfchik | according to http://www.arm.com/products/processors/cortex-a/cortex-a8.php | 12:59 |
| rmrfchik | Jazelle-RCT | 12:59 |
| rmrfchik | Technology | 12:59 |
| ShadowJK | I was under the impression that it's essentially no-op on A8? :) | 12:59 |
| Stskeeps | ShadowJK: fairly similar, i believe | 13:01 |
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| ShadowJK | Would be kinda annoying if everything I've discovered about running N900 bme-less had changed :D | 13:01 |
| Stskeeps | i wish you people'd just package a free-bme up and start testing it with our images | 13:02 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:02 |
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| ShadowJK | I need to get a compiler installed on my N900 so I can rewrite it in C and add some more, uh, program control flow logic than busybox /bin/sh allows :P | 13:03 |
| toggles_w | Stskeeps: same as n810? | 13:03 |
| lcuk | ShadowJK, isnt /bin/sh turing complete? | 13:03 |
| ShadowJK | sure | 13:03 |
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| lcuk | ShadowJK, add sdk and tools repo, apt-get install build-essential :P | 13:03 |
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| ShadowJK | I wrote a 40-line script in sh for IRC powersave, on a single line on N900, and it made no fucking sense when I copy/pasted it into a real editor and started breaking it up and indenting it... | 13:04 |
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| ShadowJK | lcuk, they're not optified! | 13:04 |
| lcuk | ShadowJK, so optify them, file a bug and make sure I see it | 13:05 |
| lcuk | and I will do my best to get them into the sdk | 13:06 |
| ShadowJK | When thunderstorm season ends I can keep my PC powered and run the sdk vm in it I guess | 13:06 |
| ShadowJK | and log into that with n900 whenever I find spare time | 13:06 |
| lcuk | failing that, the folders could potentially be added to http://maemo.gitorious.org/maemo-af/maemo-optify-boottime/blobs/master/maemo-optify-auto-opt.conf but I am certain the reason wont be enough to allow integration of the new config (else I would have done it before) | 13:07 |
| * lcuk initially had /usr/share/include there :) | 13:07 | |
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| hrw | newer mdbus2 on a way to extras-devel | 13:10 |
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| lcuk | hrw, \o/ | 13:21 |
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| hrw | only armel version - x86 one segfaulted | 13:34 |
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| lcuk | hrw, better than no update - was the older version also segfaulting? | 13:36 |
| mece | bäääck | 13:36 |
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| mece | hrw, what's mdbus2? | 13:37 |
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| mrmoku | hrw: got a trace of that segfault? It works for me on x86_64 | 13:39 |
| mrmoku | mece: mdbus2 is a dbus introspection commandline tool | 13:39 |
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| mrmoku | hrw: or maybe just tell me which call segfaulted, so I can try to reproduce it ... | 13:41 |
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| lcuk | hrw build here says x86 was ok? https://garage.maemo.org/builder/fremantle/mdbus2_2.0.2-1/i386.build.log.OK.txt | 13:43 |
| hrw | it builds - just segfaulted in my maemovm | 13:44 |
| lcuk | ahh ok | 13:44 |
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| mece | grr argh. anyone feel like throwing some votes towards fheroes2 demodata? I don't want to promote fheroes2 without the demodata there too.. | 13:50 |
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| TomaszD | mece, let that be a lesson to you. next time don't put the demo data in the user category and just make fheroes2 depend on it | 13:51 |
| TomaszD | :) | 13:51 |
| mece | TomaszD, well you don't really need the demodata if you have the proper data, so it doesn't really need to depend on it. | 13:51 |
| TomaszD | yeah, explain that to consumers who install fheroes2 and expect a playable game | 13:52 |
| mece | Anyway here's the package. It's already approved by 2 super testers. http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/fheroes2-demodata/1.0-maemo-3/ | 13:53 |
| mece | TomaszD, well I actually do explain it in the description: "You will need the map and data files from the original game to play. You can also download the Free Heroes 2 demodata pacakge to try it" | 13:53 |
| TomaszD | I know | 13:53 |
| TomaszD | I'm sure everybody looks there | 13:53 |
| TomaszD | :) | 13:53 |
| mece | hahaha | 13:53 |
| mece | :D | 13:53 |
| Jartza | mites nyt silleen? | 13:54 |
| Jartza | och. channel-lotto :) | 13:54 |
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| Jartza | no win | 13:54 |
| timeless_mbp | if the data is <5mb, just stick it into non 'user' and be done w/ it | 13:55 |
| TomaszD | voted | 13:55 |
| timeless_mbp | you can make a ui tool which lets people delete it | 13:55 |
| timeless_mbp | actuallly | 13:55 |
| timeless_mbp | do it properly and user 'provides' and have your package depend on the virtual thing | 13:56 |
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| TomaszD | you know what grinds my gears in the app manager? The multitude of exactly the same themes with different colours | 13:56 |
| TomaszD | the black plastic theme guy got it right with a control panel applet | 13:56 |
| TomaszD | one package, one config applet to choose the colour. Or you could go the easier route and just have one package install all available colours | 13:57 |
| mece | timeless_mbp, that sounds nice, but also like a lot of work... | 13:57 |
| mece | timeless_mbp, it's more like 50Mb anyway so it should definately be optional. | 13:58 |
| TomaszD | mece, if you put the data in a consumer-visible place like /home/MyDocs/fheroes-demodata then nobody would complain | 13:58 |
| lcuk | TomaszD, sure, but its difficult | 13:59 |
| lcuk | that is more than a theme and involves dev work | 13:59 |
| TomaszD | hmm, I mean /home/user/MyDocs (?) | 13:59 |
| lcuk | perhaps themes based on plastic will follow this example | 13:59 |
| TomaszD | lcuk, isn't black plastic open source? :) | 13:59 |
| TomaszD | just take the code | 13:59 |
| TomaszD | otherwise we'll have theme X bright pink, theme X a little brighter pink, etc.. | 14:00 |
| mece | TomaszD, well having the data in MyDocs severely affects the performance. | 14:00 |
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| lcuk | TomaszD, not me silly, read what i posted | 14:00 |
| lcuk | "themes based on" | 14:00 |
| mece | TomaszD, oh thanks, I didn't know you were a supertester :D ok promoting now | 14:01 |
| TomaszD | ...supertester? | 14:01 |
| TomaszD | I am? | 14:01 |
| TomaszD | oh | 14:01 |
| TomaszD | so this gives me +3 instead of +1 | 14:02 |
| TomaszD | I didn't even notice | 14:02 |
| mece | TomaszD, apparently yes :D | 14:02 |
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| jacekowski | rmrfchik: it has jazzele but no software to support it | 14:05 |
| TomaszD | mece, please vote for http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/gps-data-logger/0.5-3/ then | 14:07 |
| TomaszD | not my package but thoroughly tested | 14:08 |
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| TomaszD | not sure why people aren't voting it up | 14:08 |
| realitygaps | hey ppl, having a strange issue in conversations - the scrollbar is not hildonized anymore and clicking anywhere selects text instead of scrolling. anyone got any ideas how to fix it? | 14:08 |
| realitygaps | it occurs in all chat windows | 14:08 |
| mece | TomaszD, ok, I'll install it first, since I actually wanted something like that just two days ago :D | 14:09 |
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| TomaszD | mece, try "GPS Recorder" too, also worth voting up, but this is a standalone app instead of a widget | 14:10 |
| mece | Khertan, did the obs build work on the N900? | 14:11 |
| mece | TomaszD, I might actually want the standalone app instead. I have all my desktops maxxed out with stuff already :) | 14:11 |
| TomaszD | whatever works for you, vote though | 14:11 |
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| Robot101 | DocScrutinizer: "* DocScrutinizer stabs Robot101" -> thanks! :) | 14:22 |
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| iPeter- | hi | 14:23 |
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| iPeter- | how to change bg color of terminal on n900 | 14:24 |
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| iPeter- | lol i fail nvm | 14:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | Robot101: yw :-) | 14:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | barisione around? | 14:29 |
| realitygaps | anyone with any pointers as to why the conversations are no longer hildonized?? | 14:29 |
| Robot101 | DocScrutinizer: yeah he got back from GUADEC over the weekend | 14:29 |
| Robot101 | but we're going for lunch | 14:29 |
| Robot101 | ttyl | 14:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | enjoy! | 14:30 |
| frals | mece: bah, no change with 3 supertesters votes :P | 14:30 |
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| * DocScrutinizer wonders what you need to bribe supertestsers to test a package :-/ | 14:32 | |
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| DocScrutinizer | wow, should have checked first. http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/starhash-enabler/0.2/ is even up to 7 now :-) | 14:35 |
| SpeedEvil | I need to test some more apps, and then I'll be at 100, so my vote will count as 3 | 14:36 |
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| mece | SpeedEvil, I think you need to be appointed a supertester. | 14:38 |
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| mece | frals, well that's annoying. I hope they remove the delay for updates ASAP. First time apps could have the quarantine, but upgrades should not, IMO. | 14:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer | s/need/ought have been | 14:39 |
| * realitygaps cant figure out why the damn scrollbar appears in conversations unhildonized | 14:39 | |
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| mece | realitygaps: in regular conversations. Have you customized it? | 14:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | mece: that's a really difficult topic, as an update can introduce massive rewrites and of course regressions or intentional rogue bits | 14:41 |
| mece | DocScrutinizer, I guess so.. | 14:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | (quarantine for updates) | 14:41 |
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| mece | DocScrutinizer, then again it's very frustrating when there's a small bug that takes 3 seconds to fix and 10 days to promote.. | 14:42 |
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| das2k | hello | 14:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | maybe we'd need some special procedure for power testers approving the patch diffs, so an update could go without quarantine if considered minor change and safe | 14:43 |
| mece | das2k: 'ello | 14:43 |
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| mece | DocScrutinizer, something like that would be nice.. | 14:43 |
| das2k | how can I add the N900 Device libraries into Gcc | 14:43 |
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| realitygaps | mece: nope didnt customize it, it happens in every chat window (get an old style scrollbar down the side) | 14:44 |
| realitygaps | mece: was thinking maybe i can customize it back | 14:44 |
| das2k | I have just started developing on N900 | 14:44 |
| das2k | can any body give me some help | 14:44 |
| das2k | regarding installing N900 Libraries | 14:44 |
| das2k | in gcc | 14:44 |
| das2k | I am using Ubuntu 10.4 | 14:44 |
| das2k | 10.04 | 14:45 |
| lcuk | das2k, install the SDK, see the developer documentation on maemo.org | 14:45 |
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| das2k | Yes I have installed | 14:45 |
| marcus | Hmm, I've got a little problem: A few days ago I tried catagorize (or what it's called), and after removing it, the menu is now kinda ruined. I have 2x icons of some applications. How do I reset that? | 14:45 |
| das2k | SDK | 14:45 |
| das2k | @ lcuk | 14:45 |
| das2k | I have intalled SDK | 14:45 |
| lcuk | then whats missing? | 14:45 |
| lcuk | specifically | 14:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | maybe the blobs, under targer_x86? | 14:46 |
| das2k | I am using Netbeans IDE for coding in C | 14:47 |
| das2k | I don't get list of function as soon as I type header file name | 14:47 |
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| lcuk | dunno das2k i dont use that ide so dont know how to import symbols into it | 14:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer | probably you have to add the path to maemo specific *.h somewhere to the ide config | 14:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer | das2k: anyway when you figure how to put it to work, don't forget to report about your findings, preferably on wiki | 14:51 |
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| * DocScrutinizer is shouting swearwords and curses inferior quality cheap switches for left mousebutton in his expensive-as-gold Logitec MX mouse | 14:53 | |
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| DocScrutinizer | unsolicited doubleclick really can drive you nuts | 14:54 |
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| mece | is it ok to link to a talk thread from a package description under "downloads" ? | 14:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | sure, why not? | 14:55 |
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| mece | was thinking like this: "Help and instructions can be found here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=624831" | 14:55 |
| Weiss | DocScrutinizer: hmm.. they really use different switches? | 14:56 |
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| * Weiss ponders opening his trackballs and swapping the switches round (left-handed..) | 14:56 | |
| DocScrutinizer | they use OMRON for LMB & RMB | 14:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | SMT type switches for the rest | 14:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | obviously OMRON is crap | 14:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer | should have chosen CHERRY | 14:57 |
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| Weiss | ah, ok | 14:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer | usually this type of microswitches should be good for >100k rounds | 14:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer | don't think I exceeded that during 2 years of normal usage | 15:00 |
| mece | hey, would it be possible to make software to record video with very high framerates with the N900, to get slow motion stuff? | 15:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer | mece: nice | 15:00 |
| mece | DocScrutinizer, what is? | 15:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | mece: prolly you need to study gstreamer parameters | 15:00 |
| crashanddie | DocScrutinizer: obviously, OMRON is just a very elaborate inside joke from the techies in a company, trying to get their sales people to insult the CEO of some other company with "MORON" | 15:00 |
| mece | DocScrutinizer, yeah. A friend of mine had a digicam that recorded 240fps, low quality. still, a lot of fun with that one. | 15:01 |
| mece | DocScrutinizer, I wouldn't even know where to begin.. | 15:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | mece: man gstreamer? | 15:01 |
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| crashanddie | DocScrutinizer: "So can you explain what OMRON is?" "Certainly. MORON is YOU. It is simple, easy to do, and extremely shallow, so it can adapt to nearly any situation" | 15:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | man V4L2? | 15:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer | crashanddie: hehe | 15:03 |
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| mece | DocScrutinizer, if the shutter speed is enough, I guess this could be done pretty easily even... I wonder. | 15:05 |
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| SpeedEvil | mece: You would need to begin with the really low-level stuff. It's hardcoded to 60fps min AIUI | 15:06 |
| SpeedEvil | max | 15:06 |
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| SpeedEvil | I think this starts out at the binary blob to configure the camera. | 15:07 |
| SpeedEvil | Well - the configuration data for the sensor/image processor. | 15:07 |
| mece | SpeedEvil: so you can never go higher than 60fps, or ..? | 15:07 |
| SpeedEvil | which is a binary blob - it's not executable code | 15:07 |
| SpeedEvil | It depends on if the sensor for which we have no data can do it. | 15:08 |
| Stskeeps | we're actually doing a lot of stuff related to camera in meego too, upstreaming code and so on | 15:08 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:08 |
| SpeedEvil | It is not inconcievable that it might be able to do 240*120@120 say | 15:08 |
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| mece | SpeedEvil: But I would need to do some really low level hacking for that..? I was hoping for 320x200@120 or something like that. | 15:09 |
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| * SpeedEvil takes the nuclear option to working out which package is causing the dbus 'Hello' once a second. | 15:10 | |
| SpeedEvil | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 71 to remove and 40 not upgraded. | 15:10 |
| SpeedEvil | After this operation, 314MB disk space will be freed. | 15:10 |
| SpeedEvil | Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y | 15:10 |
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| mortini | heh | 15:10 |
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| lardman | afternoon chaps | 15:10 |
| mece | SpeedEvil: uh. sounds bad... | 15:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://cgi.ebay.com/2X-OMRON-Micro-Switch-Microswitch-D2FC-F-7N-Mouse-/260557001598 GRRRRRR! | 15:11 |
| SpeedEvil | mece: that is my impression. However, I have only read the chip datasheet on the camera driver chip in passing. | 15:11 |
| mece | I guess I could just test with the gstreamer example :) | 15:11 |
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| SpeedEvil | I think I tried it with gstreamer and it diddn't work. | 15:12 |
| SpeedEvil | but good luck | 15:12 |
| mece | SpeedEvil: to set the framerate up to ridiculous heights? | 15:12 |
| SpeedEvil | yes | 15:12 |
| SpeedEvil | many cameras have also 60hz as a hardware limit | 15:12 |
| das2k | luck: | 15:12 |
| mece | SpeedEvil: do we have that here? | 15:12 |
| das2k | lcuk: are you tehre? | 15:12 |
| das2k | luck: there? | 15:13 |
| SpeedEvil | as that's what they've been designed to for live preview use, and you don't need to go faster than that. | 15:13 |
| mece | although 60fps is still something.. | 15:13 |
| das2k | lcuk: are you there? | 15:13 |
| SpeedEvil | mece: I haven't investigated - I think it does 30fps video | 15:13 |
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| crashanddie | I nearly died today :) | 15:14 |
| lardman | how? | 15:15 |
| mortini | with te cookies? | 15:15 |
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| mortini | the. | 15:15 |
| crashanddie | lardman: on the motorbike | 15:15 |
| lardman | oh, glad you survived then | 15:15 |
| crashanddie | it was raining, after a red light, some woman stuck by a lorry on the opposite side of the road decided to cut me off and go straight through a small road just to my right. | 15:16 |
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| lardman | nasty | 15:17 |
| crashanddie | I hit the back brakes, started to skid, i kicked the back out to my right, front wheel started to skid on a sewer-metal-round-thingie. Managed to stay on the bike, and stay upright. | 15:17 |
| lardman | crashanddie: you still in La France? | 15:18 |
| crashanddie | so, nothing broken, nothing hurt. I'm good. The bitch in the car got a nice fine and points on her licence by some nice biker-cops who were waiting for the lights | 15:18 |
| crashanddie | brb | 15:18 |
| crashanddie | lardman: toujours, oui. | 15:18 |
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| lardman | I've just come back from Quebec, been practising my francais | 15:19 |
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| crashanddie | lardman: no, you've practising a dialect, which appears to be a very interesting solution to a problem that should've never existed in the first place. | 15:22 |
| lardman | nah, I was speaking French french, they were all rather confused | 15:23 |
| lardman | as was I when they spoke back | 15:23 |
| crashanddie | I remember being in Montreal, going to a restaurant | 15:23 |
| crashanddie | the waiter fetches us at the door and says "Bienvenue, suivez-moi" | 15:24 |
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| crashanddie | he brings us to our table, I thank him, and he replies "Bienvenue" | 15:24 |
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| lardman | :) | 15:24 |
| crashanddie | he brings the menus, I thank him, and he says "Bienvenue". Confused, I thank him again, he replies "Bievenue" again. | 15:25 |
| Corsac | aha | 15:25 |
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| crashanddie | Figures that they litterally translated "You're welcome". | 15:25 |
| MohammadAG | ROFL | 15:25 |
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| lcuk | das2k, no I am not here. and as I said I don't use that IDE so would be of no help anyway | 15:27 |
| lcuk | lardman, \o welcome back to uk | 15:27 |
| lardman | hi lcuk | 15:27 |
| lardman | thanks | 15:27 |
| * lcuk just had lunch but feels like I didn't eayt | 15:28 | |
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| lcuk | eat | 15:28 |
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| crashanddie | lardman: translate this: "serais tu également disponible jeudi ou vendredi pour qu'en fonction du résultat de ces entretiens, nous puissions nous mettre d'accord sur un contrat ? Pourrrais tu m'envoyer en parallèle tes prétentions salariales afin que je puisse te présenter le package que nous pouvons te proposer" | 15:28 |
| lardman | must I? | 15:29 |
| crashanddie | just google translate it :P | 15:29 |
| crashanddie | I think I've finally reached an agreement with a company | 15:29 |
| lardman | thurs/fri about a contract | 15:29 |
| SpeedEvil | Congratulations! | 15:29 |
| crashanddie | had an interview with CEO and CTO last wednesday | 15:29 |
| lardman | indeed, congrats | 15:29 |
| lardman | (was wondering why the native French speaker wanted my school-boy expertise on that one) | 15:30 |
| lardman | hmm, ~£75 to tow a car 2 miles | 15:30 |
| crashanddie | two other interviews with lead dev and manager on wednesday, but they're already asking to be available for finalising the contract | 15:30 |
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| crashanddie | lmao, we have this drug for the dog. As soon as there is a lightning storm, he goes bananas. I think I may have given him too much, he's randomly licking furniture... | 15:31 |
| Corsac | crashanddie: did they really say “package”? | 15:32 |
| crashanddie | Corsac: yup | 15:32 |
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| Corsac | yurk | 15:32 |
| crashanddie | why? | 15:32 |
| Corsac | that's not exactly french :) | 15:32 |
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| crashanddie | well, sure it is: http://fr.thefreedictionary.com/package | 15:32 |
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| Corsac | Ce mot est un anglicisme déconseillé; il vaut mieux employer achat groupé ou forfait. | 15:33 |
| Corsac | my point :) | 15:33 |
| Corsac | it's not french | 15:33 |
| crashanddie | it is pretty common these days -- you actually see it on adverts and everything | 15:33 |
| crashanddie | plus the guy isn't exactly french, so I don't give a toot :P | 15:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | AHAA! 3 pcs D2FC-F-7N in old Logitec, of which IIRC all but LMB should still work | 15:34 |
| crashanddie | DocScrutinizer: AWESOME! | 15:34 |
| Corsac | crashanddie: can you give the company name yet? | 15:34 |
| crashanddie | well, no. | 15:35 |
| Corsac | ok | 15:35 |
| crashanddie | Not until I sign a contract. Wouldn't want some guy I pissed off on IRC to call them and screw me over :P | 15:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | sometimes it pays off to keep old crap | 15:35 |
| * crashanddie looks at MohammadAG. | 15:35 | |
| Corsac | crashanddie: rooh :) | 15:35 |
| crashanddie | Corsac: it's a pretty "english" fashionned company though (even though it is french). They didn't really look at my diplomas, rather my skills, which is good. They also provide health cover and things like that, rather than a pure financial payment. | 15:36 |
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| MohammadAG | (Congrats crashanddie) | 15:37 |
| MohammadAG | you're still a bastard | 15:37 |
| crashanddie | that'll never change :P | 15:37 |
| MohammadAG | so you admit being one | 15:38 |
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| barisione | DocScrutinizer: hi | 15:39 |
| crashanddie | well, my old IRC name before I switched to irssi was "From 0 to bastard in 0.3 seconds" | 15:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | I've seen that one | 15:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | barisione: hi! | 15:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer | haha funny, they mounted a 20*30*5mm steel block inside that old Logitec mouse, to give it right weight | 15:43 |
| Khertan | Salutations crashanddie | 15:44 |
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| crashanddie | plop Khertan | 15:45 |
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| barisione | DocScrutinizer: did you ping me to tell me something? | 15:45 |
| Khertan | DocScrutinizer, and it really important ... most mouse have steel block inside | 15:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer | barisione: talk about gstreamer et al, alternatives, problems... but later. Need to fix mouse first | 15:46 |
| Khertan | Corsac, euh .... franchement ... package ... je l'emploi frequemment :) bien plus que forfait | 15:46 |
| crashanddie | High end logitech gaming mice have specific weights you can add to the mouse so that it gives you the right feel | 15:47 |
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| barisione | DocScrutinizer: I actually have a fix, I just couldn't manage to polish the code when I was away for GUADEC (too many distractions) | 15:47 |
| Corsac | Khertan: je ne suis pas certain que ce soit une référence | 15:47 |
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| crashanddie | Corsac: d'un autre coté, on s'est fout un peu. Regarde sur le site de SFR, Bouygues, Renault, Honda France, ils ont tous au moins une fois le mot "package". | 15:48 |
| Corsac | c'est pas une raison hein | 15:48 |
| Khertan | Corsac, c'est pas faux | 15:48 |
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| Khertan | crashanddie, health cover is frequent now in french company | 15:49 |
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| crashanddie | Corsac: languages evolve, and dictionnaries really aren't the place to look to see if a word "exists" or not. | 15:51 |
| Khertan | Stskeeps, did you know if there is a way to use the meego obs community as a repository for n900 ? | 15:51 |
| Khertan | crashanddie, specially when there isn't any official dictionnaries | 15:52 |
| Khertan | :) | 15:52 |
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| X-Fade | Khertan: not now. Will come soon. | 15:52 |
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| Khertan | ok thanks | 15:52 |
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| Corsac | crashanddie: et donc, après vérification, google(package site:www.{sfr,orange,bouygues,honda,renault}.fr) renvoie vraiment pas grand chose | 15:53 |
| Khertan | other question, did you know if someone have build a package from a python setup ? | 15:53 |
| Khertan | i know that a possibility ... but i didn't understand well how to do, and docs seems missing on suse obs site | 15:53 |
| Khertan | Corsac, forcement c est site de merde sont en flash au 3/4 | 15:54 |
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| Corsac | trop pas | 15:54 |
| Khertan | Corsac, forcement ces sites de merde sont en flash au 3/4 | 15:54 |
| Khertan | hum ... | 15:54 |
| Khertan | si si | 15:54 |
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| Khertan | lol sfr.fr ... premiere page | 15:55 |
| Khertan | dans l'encart en flash | 15:55 |
| Khertan | le mot package | 15:55 |
| Khertan | hihi | 15:55 |
| Khertan | ok je suis en anglais | 15:55 |
| Khertan | lol | 15:55 |
| Khertan | ;) | 15:55 |
| rcg-work | any idea why promoting a package fails with: "Can not continue promotion, because dependency package icedtea6 is a user section package and needs to be promoted first!" despite icedtea6 being already promoted (it is even in extras free)? | 15:56 |
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| crashanddie | rcg-work: are the versions the same? | 15:56 |
| X-Fade | rcg-work: Same version? | 15:56 |
| rcg-work | i did not specify any special version as dependency | 15:56 |
| rcg-work | so any version should do | 15:57 |
| crashanddie | rcg-work: except that because you're not specifying a minimum version number, it may default to the highest available. | 15:57 |
| crashanddie | (just guessing here) | 15:58 |
| rcg-work | ok .. will try to specify a minimum version number | 15:59 |
| Khertan | ~seen connie | 16:01 |
| infobot | connie <n=WebUser@c-24-129-73-31.hsd1.fl.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowhead, 771d 13h 35m 51s ago, saying: 'omg it's a wow irc lol'. | 16:01 |
| Khertan | ~seen conny | 16:01 |
| infobot | conny <~conny@g229036132.adsl.alicedsl.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #meego, 32d 15h 23m 57s ago, saying: 'TSCHAKeee2: No :)'. | 16:01 |
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| bleader | timeless_mbp: sorry I missed your messages yesterday evening, it wasn't hebrew, but anthy (for japanese), that was preventing the OSK to pop, thanks for the heads up | 16:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Khertan: http://share.ovi.com/media/joerg900.public/joerg900.10047?sort=0 | 16:05 |
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| MohammadAG | ~seen javispedro | 16:06 |
| infobot | javispedro <~javier@Maemo/community/council/javispedro> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 67d 12h 7m 34s ago, saying: 'oh.. aisleriot solitaire with clutter/3D vista-like animations! port port port !'. | 16:06 |
| Khertan | DocScrutinizer, exactly ... you can look in razor mouse too :) | 16:06 |
| lcuk | live BG support getting stronger and stronger :) | 16:07 |
| lcuk | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4CWd1q8RLU | 16:07 |
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| SpeedEvil | xsnow++ | 16:07 |
| Khertan | it s not to look like heavy but to make the mouse more balanced | 16:08 |
| SpeedEvil | Though it needs to be made to work across all 4 desktops | 16:08 |
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| lardman | lcuk: how does one use liq* to save and view individual sketches? | 16:09 |
| lardman | lcuk: liqplayground allows you to make sketches, but I can't see them anywhere | 16:10 |
| lcuk | lardman, liqrecentsketches shows the graffiti wall | 16:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | Khertan: *nod* | 16:10 |
| lcuk | but the version currently on maemo.ogr is a bit stale and in very high need of a refresh asap | 16:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Khertan: I hate cheap lightweight mice running off the table, pulled by own cable :-P | 16:11 |
| SpeedEvil | DocScrutinizer: Two ways round that. | 16:11 |
| SpeedEvil | Wireless mice, or trackpoint(tm). | 16:11 |
| lardman | lcuk: not in the repo though? | 16:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | I bet I know 4 at least | 16:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | well then 6 | 16:12 |
| lardman | lcuk: Would have been useful while I was away to take notes during talks | 16:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | err, 5, as that replaces "throw away cheap mouse" | 16:12 |
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| lcuk | lardman, theres lots in the github repo, its all being slowly cleaned up and broken into projects properly | 16:13 |
| SpeedEvil | Tape a brick to the mouse. | 16:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer | #1 :-) | 16:13 |
| lcuk | i keep blocking on graffiti wall because i need to integrate a desktop widget along with it | 16:13 |
| lardman | lcuk: cool, I look forward to a release | 16:13 |
| lcuk | yes, me too | 16:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | #2: fix cable at edge of table | 16:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | #3: use rubber mouspad upside down | 16:14 |
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| lcuk | lardman, i have been cleaning up my template and getting my code working on nice standalone projects | 16:15 |
| lcuk | like this: http://github.com/lcuk/liqcalc/raw/master/liqcalc.screenshot.png | 16:15 |
| lcuk | (in its own git repo with no playground stuff or mucking around :)) | 16:15 |
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| timeless_mbp | bleader: :) | 16:15 |
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| bleader | feels a lot better to be able to get a | when using the shell :p | 16:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer | hmm, now I got a spare D2FC-F-7N, but desoldering was such a pain (literally :-P Dunno why I tried to solder my finger), and I don't see this easily done on MX Revolution :-S | 16:17 |
| lardman | lcuk: the graffiti wall is perhaps more suitable though - what liq features does the calculator have? | 16:18 |
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| lardman | or was it just a component on the playground so it's now been packaged up? | 16:18 |
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| crashanddie | lardman|afk: travelling east is always worst. West is peanuts. | 16:21 |
| SpeedEvil | Unless you go far enough west. | 16:21 |
| Corsac | (depends if you prefer to wake up or go to bed at 4am :) | 16:21 |
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| Khertan | ... | 16:22 |
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| crashanddie | SpeedEvil: nha. I did Australia to London, and had no problems (because the days, even shorter, still go by relatively normally). However, London to Australia completes craps you up. Did the same with Ukraine-US (west coast), same thing happened | 16:24 |
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| SpeedEvil | Sorry. | 16:24 |
| crashanddie | SpeedEvil: I don't think that even if you went round the world, you'd feel very good. | 16:24 |
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| SpeedEvil | I was being boringly pedantic, ans in that if you go far enough west, you go east. | 16:24 |
| crashanddie | Though, Amsterdam - London, very fun. You take off at 5PM, you land at 5PM, woohoooo | 16:25 |
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| Khertan | http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pypackager/3.0.19 | 16:25 |
| Khertan | oups ... sorry | 16:25 |
| toggles_w | crashanddie: you forgot to stop in singapore | 16:25 |
| SpeedEvil | Anyone else up for despinning the earth to a ~26 hour day? | 16:25 |
| crashanddie | SpeedEvil: you could also say you're going negative east :P | 16:25 |
| lcuk | lardman|afk, yes its just a standalone app now, it can live in the playground or be run on its own. its just me noting ideas needed for a portrait calculator | 16:26 |
| crashanddie | toggles_w: didn't :) Well, I stopped in singapore, bangkok, dubai... | 16:26 |
| lcuk | and includes only one thing I think any calculator needs - a real working solar panel so you can cover it and the screen fades | 16:26 |
| toggles_w | lol, you need to step out of tha airport in singapore lon->aus, preferably for a day to soak up some heat and good food | 16:27 |
| crashanddie | toggles_w: there's the smoking area, which is a nice little bar :D | 16:27 |
| crashanddie | outside | 16:27 |
| toggles_w | yeah, I know it well | 16:27 |
| crashanddie | expensive as fuck though | 16:27 |
| mece | I'm out. ta. | 16:27 |
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| * toggles_w quit smoking, then moved to italy, bloody stupid idea.. | 16:28 | |
| crashanddie | and everytime an airplane lands/takes off/taxis, you're deaf for a few minutes | 16:28 |
| toggles_w | true, but you have abeer and a smoke.. | 16:28 |
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| crashanddie | nha, buy a bottle of water in the mcdonalds, then go outside and smoke | 16:29 |
| crashanddie | free drinks on the plane :D | 16:29 |
| toggles_w | or the gold lounge, bloody mary's for bfast | 16:29 |
| crashanddie | Never went to the lounge in SGP | 16:30 |
| crashanddie | I love how most westerners are super polite to the air hostesses, and only ask for a coke, or a tomato juice when she comes along | 16:30 |
| crashanddie | just ask for a couple or three things | 16:30 |
| crashanddie | This works even better if you're seated on the aisle: they assume you're ordering for everyone in your row | 16:31 |
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| X-Fade | crashanddie: lol, you really start to sound like a Dutchman ;) | 16:31 |
| crashanddie | haha | 16:31 |
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| alterego | Well, after taking my laptop apart, giving it a little clean. It seems to work alright, though I need a new keyboard as it's playing up :/ | 16:32 |
| crashanddie | well, you pay 2 grand for a flight, they'd better give you free drinks | 16:32 |
| crashanddie | alterego: still under warranty? | 16:32 |
| crashanddie | if not, then ebay | 16:33 |
| alterego | crashanddie: nope. and it was water damage. Yeah found a suitable one for about ten quid :) | 16:33 |
| crashanddie | water dammage is covered by dell enterprise support | 16:33 |
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| alterego | Well, I don't have it :) | 16:33 |
| luke-jr | crashanddie: $2000? over here, flights are $100 round-trip | 16:35 |
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| crashanddie | luke-jr: from london to aus? | 16:35 |
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| luke-jr | and if you want more than a pop and peanuts, you pay extra | 16:35 |
| luke-jr | nah, across the US | 16:35 |
| luke-jr | no idea how much international flights cost | 16:36 |
| luke-jr | but that's probably why US people get the idea of what they can ask for | 16:36 |
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| crashanddie | luke-jr: ah, yeah, domestic flights in the US are dirt cheap, but then again, if you go for budget airlines in Europe, you can get a round trip for 30 quid within Europe | 16:37 |
| luke-jr | also, on US flights, each person orders for themself | 16:37 |
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| toggles_w | luke-jr: pit->syd last year $876 on United | 16:39 |
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| Khertan | someone have an idea on how i can render a list of recent files in an ui ? | 16:42 |
| Khertan | a list of QMaemo5ValueButton | 16:42 |
| Khertan | isn't really optimum | 16:42 |
| Khertan | (and QMaemo5* aren't available on meego) | 16:42 |
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| toggles_w | Khertan: what's the menu like on meego? do you just add actions? or is it more complicated? | 16:43 |
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| Khertan | don't know yet | 16:44 |
| Khertan | toggles_w, my soft wasn't running yet on meego ... :) | 16:44 |
| Khertan | i ll say if it s enough once i got it run on it :) | 16:44 |
| toggles_w | ok.. thanks.. | 16:44 |
| Khertan | but i ll try on meego netbook ux | 16:45 |
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| Khertan | as was never been able to build an image for my n900 | 16:45 |
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| E0x | i can change the n900 hostname without problem ? | 16:51 |
| derf | It certainly used to cause problems. | 16:52 |
| derf | Dunno if it's safe now. | 16:53 |
| E0x | ok | 16:53 |
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| mgedmin | I always change the hostname of my n900 | 16:54 |
| mgedmin | nevert had any problems | 16:54 |
| mgedmin | I can imagine it causing problems if you do the change incorrectly | 16:55 |
| mgedmin | remember to change it both in /etc/hosts and in /etc/hostname | 16:55 |
| E0x | mgedmin: how do you change it ? i was thinking in editing the /etc/hostname file | 16:55 |
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| E0x | oh | 16:55 |
| E0x | that | 16:55 |
| E0x | mgedmin: what i need restart ? | 16:56 |
| E0x | the whole device ? | 16:56 |
| mgedmin | maybe, maybe not | 16:56 |
| Khertan | or not | 16:56 |
| Khertan | ;) | 16:56 |
| mgedmin | there's a command you need to run to set the hostname | 16:56 |
| mgedmin | and restart certain services (like avahi-daemon, if you have it) that think they know your hostname already | 16:57 |
| mgedmin | rebooting is probably simpler | 16:57 |
| E0x | ok | 16:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer | barisione: any idea if and why contact-ringtones could deactivate the vibra? | 16:58 |
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| barisione | yes | 17:01 |
| barisione | the default ringtone stuff fails at playing a ringtone | 17:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | barisione: also waht do you think of the idea to exploit the original ringtone playback process, by replacin ~/.local/*/*/ringtone.mp3.wav by a named pipe and feed that one via a process that can switch the data writen any time, even preprocess or generate it | 17:01 |
| barisione | and so it also fails at vibrating | 17:01 |
| barisione | if you do that then the original ringtone will start playing in any case | 17:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer | barisione: or even just rewriting content of the original ringtone.mp3.wav on the fly, while dialer is doing playback | 17:02 |
| jacekowski | DocScrutinizer: when it starts it's too late | 17:02 |
| barisione | that would not work | 17:02 |
| jacekowski | barisione: how is your ringtone stuff working? | 17:02 |
| X-Fade | ringtone is locked into memory right? | 17:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | jacekowski: why too late? | 17:03 |
| barisione | jacekowski: it just takes care of playing the ringtone and does it by itself, except that currently it takes too long | 17:03 |
| jacekowski | because file is already opened | 17:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | X-Fade: that's the question, how it opens the file | 17:03 |
| X-Fade | Check barisione 's blog. | 17:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | jacekowski: so what? you can change content of an opened file, under linux, no? | 17:03 |
| jacekowski | you can, but it's bad idea | 17:04 |
| jacekowski | because mp3 has metadata in it | 17:04 |
| barisione | yeah, but that would not work | 17:04 |
| jacekowski | besides, buffering and stuff | 17:04 |
| barisione | jacekowski: it's a wave | 17:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | that'sNOT mp3 | 17:04 |
| X-Fade | DocScrutinizer: http://blog.barisione.org/2010-07/how-hard-can-it-be/ -> memlocked | 17:04 |
| barisione | Docscrutinizer: the original file could already be in memory | 17:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | the process, yes | 17:04 |
| E0x | if i use netbean at windows but want do something for my n900 using it, what i need do for have all libs and python module if was posible that kind of setup ? | 17:04 |
| jacekowski | barisione: so why your thing is slower than original player? | 17:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | barisione: could, exactly | 17:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | ever tried it? | 17:05 |
| barisione | DocScrutinizer: and even if you do it in the best case you get a bit of the original ringtone | 17:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | with a named pipe anyway it should work | 17:05 |
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| barisione | DocScrutinizer: in the worst case you are just writing random data to a file opened by another process | 17:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | barisione: which isn't at all a bad thing ('original' ringtone), at least better than lag | 17:05 |
| jacekowski | DocScrutinizer: you cant seek in pipes | 17:06 |
| barisione | I have a fix that should kill the lag | 17:06 |
| * realitygaps still cant figure out why the scrollbars appearing in conversations.... | 17:06 | |
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| barisione | but it's not finished | 17:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer | barisione: (original) that's bean the rationale behind my idea to rewrite original fle | 17:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | and without vibra the whole thing is unusable for me at least | 17:07 |
| lcuk | realitygaps, usually caused by having stuff to scroll to | 17:07 |
| jacekowski | so why vibra is not working anyways? | 17:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | prolly because dialer doesn't like 0 length ringtone | 17:07 |
| jacekowski | hmm | 17:08 |
| jacekowski | that can be fixed | 17:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | barfs, and stops | 17:08 |
| X-Fade | Silent wavefile? | 17:08 |
| barisione | jacekowski: it's slower because gstreamer (having to guess the type, etc.) is not very fast | 17:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | sure, give a silent file of arbitrary nonzero length instead | 17:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | X-Fade: :-D | 17:08 |
| barisione | I tried different approaches, in the end I'm writing stuff directly to pulseaudio | 17:08 |
| barisione | so what I'm doing is: | 17:09 |
| jacekowski | barisione: what about recoding ringtones to already known format | 17:09 |
| jacekowski | barisione: so it's not too big, and then using that | 17:09 |
| barisione | - play directly using PA and wave files (I have the patch but it's ugly) | 17:09 |
| barisione | - convert non-wave files to .wav | 17:09 |
| barisione | - fix the vibration problem | 17:09 |
| barisione | this can be fixed by using an empty file | 17:09 |
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| jacekowski | why you don't move vibration to your software? | 17:10 |
| barisione | or by making it vibrate directly | 17:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | jacekowski: files in ~/.local are all *.wav by def | 17:10 |
| barisione | the latter sounds less hackish | 17:10 |
| realitygaps | lcuk: yep but i dont get the scrollbar, i get a non hildonized scroll bar which i need to use the stylus to scroll on | 17:10 |
| barisione | the former could be easier :) | 17:10 |
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| summel | http://summel.de/n900/apps/ new quasselclient binary + minitube binary (nice youtube client) | 17:10 |
| jacekowski | hmm, | 17:10 |
| barisione | note that I think that also the LED breaks, as it's flashing is controlled by the same thing that plays ringtones and make the phone vibrate | 17:11 |
| jacekowski | LD_PRELOAD for dialer | 17:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | I really appreciate at least vibra still handled by genuine process, in case caller-ringtoned breaks | 17:11 |
| barisione | jacekowski: hm? | 17:11 |
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| jacekowski | barisione: where do you store association between ringtone and contact? | 17:11 |
| barisione | in the contacts | 17:12 |
| jacekowski | as? | 17:12 |
| jacekowski | comment? | 17:12 |
| jacekowski | do you have source avaliable? | 17:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | so eplace 0 byte rintone-default.aac.wav by a silent 1s sample please | 17:12 |
| barisione | inside the vcard in a X-RINGTONED-PATH field | 17:12 |
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| jacekowski | and what about last question? | 17:13 |
| jacekowski | brb. reboot | 17:13 |
| barisione | last question? | 17:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer | barisione: please consider extending that to have maybe arbitrary X-userdefined fields, at least one called X-EXECUTE holding path to arbitrary executable to start on "ringing" and send SIGINT on ringtone stop | 17:14 |
| barisione | no | 17:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | barisione: don't worry, jacekowski always very fuzzy | 17:15 |
| barisione | that can be done in a better way with ringtoned plugins | 17:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmhm, ok | 17:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | Just interested in a way to plugin own fancy things on specific contacts | 17:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | aah | 17:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ever thought of superimposing the special-ringtone property to contac's avatar icon? as there's no generic way to display that in contacts app it seems | 17:17 |
| barisione | hm? | 17:17 |
| barisione | defining plugins is really easy, see http://git.collabora.co.uk/?p=user/bari/ringtoned.git;a=blob;f=per-contact/plugin/plugin.c;h=f24d21fc35f19316788c30db4909c16b74c77d36;hb=HEAD | 17:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | I open contact in contacts. Gives me no clue at first glance there's a special ringtone set | 17:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer | so edit the 'photo' stored to contact, to have a small mark indicating the special ringtone is set | 17:18 |
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| jacekowski | 16:12 < jacekowski> do you have source avaliable? | 17:19 |
| realitygaps | ok i know this is a silly question, but is there a way to toggle the select text function in a conversation? im sure there was but it doesnt exist in mine anymore | 17:19 |
| jacekowski | that question | 17:19 |
| jacekowski | i'm never fuzzy | 17:19 |
| jacekowski | it's just people are too slow | 17:20 |
| lcuk | DocScrutinizer, an overlay, recently used on twitter for twibbons | 17:20 |
| barisione | http://git.collabora.co.uk/?p=user/bari/ringtoned.git;a=summary | 17:20 |
| * lcuk hates himself for knowning that | 17:20 | |
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| * DocScrutinizer mumbles "damn mouse, lemme throw your rocks together" | 17:22 | |
| jacekowski | hah, i've got an idea | 17:24 |
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| Khertan | It s funny that in the small open source world will always see the same name ... | 17:46 |
| Khertan | :) | 17:46 |
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| Khertan | [DIFF] LucasRocha 15:19 Info AndreKlapper | 17:46 |
| Khertan | :) | 17:46 |
| Khertan | http://live.gnome.org/RecentChanges | 17:47 |
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| woglinde | hm intressting | 17:48 |
| woglinde | no llvm packages yet | 17:48 |
| * realitygaps argh cant figure this one out | 17:49 | |
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| lcuk | realitygaps, swipe from left hand side of device onto the screen, about 1/3 up from bottom left of screen | 17:51 |
| * lcuk looks to making gestures have screen real estate hint | 17:52 | |
| woglinde | hi lcuk | 17:52 |
| lcuk | \o hi woglinde | 17:53 |
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| realitygaps | thanks... yep, it doesnt exist for me in conversations - only in browser. Somehow the IM/SMS program is giving me a gtk scrollbar not a hildon one and is set to always be in select text mode no idea where to even start looking for a solution | 17:54 |
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| realitygaps | but thanks lcuk for confirming it should be there | 17:55 |
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| lcuk | realitygaps, have you been screwing with the theming of conversations? | 17:57 |
| realitygaps | lcuk: nope not at all, thats the strange thing | 17:58 |
| lcuk | screenshots | 17:58 |
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| realitygaps | lcuk: a few days i could use the select from swipe. then suddenly i was stuck in select text mode and ugly gray scrollbars. but only in actual conversations. the main conversations app is fine just individual chats are broken. Getting screenshots uploaded | 17:59 |
| Khertan | are you launching it as root ? | 17:59 |
| realitygaps | Khertan, nope - normally from menu -> conversations | 18:00 |
| Khertan | strange | 18:01 |
| realitygaps | yep, cant figure it out-conversations itself is fine with hildon styling | 18:01 |
| realitygaps | just each chat is broken... screens on the way tho | 18:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer | barisione: I'm going to try a hotfix by replacing that 0 bytes *.wav and see if that fixes vibra and doesn't break anything else. Maybe if I make it a file with a short jingle and then minutes of silence, I can even get the lag bridged with an early notification | 18:02 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, what's this about? | 18:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer | caller-ringtones | 18:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | per-contact-ringtones? | 18:04 |
| woglinde | hi doc | 18:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | something like that | 18:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | Hilzu: woglinde | 18:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | err | 18:04 |
| MohammadAG | lol | 18:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | Hilzu: sorry ETAB | 18:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | Hi woglinde :-) | 18:04 |
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| * DocScrutinizer pulls laptop into reach, covering the mouse slaughtering area... | 18:05 | |
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| lardman | lcuk: cool | 18:05 |
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| ThoMe | hwn i try to install dpkg -i cgoban_1.9.14m4-1_armel.deb | 18:06 |
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| ThoMe | then dpkg said: cgoban pre-depends on maemo-select-menu-location | 18:06 |
| ThoMe | can anyone help m pls? | 18:06 |
| GNU\caust1c | there is a cgoban package? :) | 18:06 |
| X-Fade | ThoMe: That is a N8x0 package. | 18:06 |
| ThoMe | is from here https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=113&release_id=223 | 18:07 |
| ThoMe | which is fro n900er ? | 18:07 |
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| X-Fade | ThoMe: That is a diablo-ism ;) | 18:07 |
| johnsq | Hi | 18:07 |
| X-Fade | ThoMe: So probably a left over from older versions. | 18:07 |
| woglinde | hi lardman and x-fade | 18:07 |
| ThoMe | X-Fade: and now? now cgobvan? :/ | 18:07 |
| X-Fade | ThoMe: Remove it and recompile? | 18:08 |
| ThoMe | which? | 18:08 |
| X-Fade | The predepends | 18:08 |
| TomaszD | yo lbt, still swamped? :) | 18:08 |
| lardman | hi woglinde | 18:08 |
| lardman | hey X-Fade | 18:08 |
| ThoMe | X-Fade: remove? i have download from here https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=113&release_id=223 | 18:08 |
| X-Fade | hi | 18:08 |
| lbt | you have no idea TomaszD | 18:08 |
| TomaszD | lbt, what are you doing anyway :) | 18:09 |
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| lardman | lcuk: you still around? | 18:11 |
| lbt | TomaszD: it's the last week of our dev cycle so we have a lot to do by monday. Mainly OBS/xen setup. I've also got the community OBS setup to do | 18:11 |
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| TomaszD | lbt, ah, that explains it | 18:12 |
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| woglinde | x-fade are binaries in src.deb upload allowed in maemo? | 18:15 |
| X-Fade | woglinde: You can't upload src.debs directly when in free. | 18:16 |
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| woglinde | x-fade *sigh* | 18:16 |
| lcuk | lardman, ish | 18:16 |
| woglinde | I mean in the tar.gz | 18:16 |
| * lcuk is preparing for early start tomorrow | 18:17 | |
| woglinde | lcuk to where? | 18:17 |
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| lcuk | woglinde, nowhere but i have to have things done | 18:17 |
| X-Fade | woglinde: That is possible, people might not like it though. | 18:17 |
| woglinde | x-fade becasue the icedtea package is only copying stuff | 18:18 |
| woglinde | in debian that would be a no go | 18:19 |
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| X-Fade | woglinde: For free that is not a nice thing to do, no. | 18:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | what's going on with community menber cloaks? | 18:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | is this stalled? | 18:21 |
| X-Fade | Is waiting for me to get some spare time. | 18:21 |
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| Jaffa | Af'noon, all | 18:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | who's in charge of dealing with this topic? | 18:22 |
| X-Fade | Holiday time is not the best time for that. | 18:22 |
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| woglinde | ieehks repackaed from debian arm binaries | 18:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer | X-Fade: why is holiday interferng with cloaks? /stats -p; /query <staff> 'maemo cloak for x, y, z please' - done | 18:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | or even more simple, s/\/stats -p/\/join #freenode/ | 18:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer | oops, of course /stats p ; not /stats -p | 18:31 |
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| X-Fade | DocScrutinizer: How about you create a nice list with nick and desired cloak for community members who deserve recognition and I'll request them. | 18:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | but honestly, /join freenode, ask - the painless method | 18:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | X-Fade: thought you got such list already | 18:32 |
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| X-Fade | DocScrutinizer: Nope. | 18:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer | hmm, my list is short, so easily finished with in 5 min. Just one member that starts with Mo | 18:33 |
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| realitygaps | Screenshot of the chat/conversations problem im having at http://realitygaps.com/screenfix.jpg . The right scrollbar is the issue | 18:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | no idea where in wiki or elsewhere there's an equivalent to device queue, for cloaks | 18:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer | got the idea users applying for cloak are sending mail or other notice to council | 18:35 |
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| slonopotamus | haye | 18:35 |
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| crashanddie_ | haha, power just went down in a few blocks | 18:37 |
| frals | heh, just installed fmms on a newly flashed device from HAM for the first time.. did not realise it sucks in 7MBs worth of packages :P | 18:37 |
| crashanddie_ | massive thunderstorm, apparently lightning struck not too far away | 18:37 |
| GAN900 | DocScrutinizer, should be a list on the bug. | 18:39 |
| GAN900 | Wiki is a few nicks out of date. | 18:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | bug?? | 18:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | funny to keep that as a ticket | 18:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | anyway, bug#? | 18:39 |
| crashanddie_ | 875565 | 18:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | muhaha | 18:40 |
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| crashanddie_ | no shit, you got the reference? | 18:40 |
| woglinde | hm 8 euro umts internetfalt | 18:40 |
| woglinde | they are crazy here in germany | 18:40 |
| * DocScrutinizer sighs | 18:41 | |
| woglinde | doc? | 18:41 |
| GAN900 | DocScrutinizer, some number or other | 18:41 |
| GAN900 | Has IRC in the summary. . . . | 18:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | X-Fade: MohammadAG: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8450 | 18:42 |
| povbot | Bug 8450: Add remaining IRC cloaks | 18:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | GAN900: has also cloak in summary :-D | 18:42 |
| crashanddie_ | GAN900, that's still not taken care off | 18:44 |
| crashanddie_ | ? | 18:44 |
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| crashanddie_ | GAN900, ping ^ | 18:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'd care about it, but cloaks can be asked for by group owner only | 18:48 |
| GAN900 | crashanddie_, what? | 18:48 |
| crashanddie_ | brb, N900 reboot due to opera crash | 18:48 |
| crashanddie_ | GAN900, how come the cloaks aren't taken care off yet? | 18:48 |
| GAN900 | crashanddie_, most of them are. | 18:48 |
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| crashanddie_ | GAN900, why did you ever give up founder status :P | 18:49 |
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| GAN900 | But I blame X-Fade's clear laziness and incompetence. :P | 18:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | there's a new application every once in a while - karma is dynamic ;-D | 18:49 |
| Dmitrys | crashanddie_ which irc client you're using? | 18:49 |
| GAN900 | crashanddie_, nefver had it. | 18:49 |
| crashanddie_ | Dmitrys, I'm on the N900, so xchat, but macirssi on the laptop | 18:49 |
| crashanddie_ | why? something wrong with the encoding? | 18:50 |
| jacekowski | nah | 18:50 |
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| jacekowski | it looks ok here | 18:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | on plain ASCII? no | 18:50 |
| crashanddie_ | ynk! | 18:50 |
| jacekowski | DocScrutinizer: there are ways of messing that up | 18:50 |
| jacekowski | like utf-16 | 18:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm | 18:51 |
| crashanddie_ | utf-16 is awesomeness in a box | 18:51 |
| ccooke | crashanddie_: unless you need to be space conscious :-) | 18:52 |
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| cehteh | utf-16 for irc ... have fun ;) | 18:55 |
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| * DocScrutinizer sighs on growing a real ticket, with lists and whatnot, of such a simple thing as /query x-fade please give me a cloak | 18:58 | |
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| lardman | lcuk: can't remember what I was going to say - I'll email you if I do :) | 18:58 |
| lardman | hey GAN900, how's things | 18:58 |
| lardman | ? | 18:58 |
| GAN900 | lardman, pretty good, we kicked the Yankees to the curb last night, so I'm happy. :P | 18:59 |
| lardman | lol | 18:59 |
| crashanddie_ | DocScrutinizer, /msg hpotter please give me a cloak | 19:00 |
| lardman | we watched the Giants in SF, was interesting | 19:00 |
| GAN900 | lardman, that's a nice stadium. | 19:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | crashanddie_: your karma needs to be 50.000 for that | 19:00 |
| lardman | so they say, certainly had a nice view, but the prices for food & drink were shocking | 19:00 |
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| crashanddie_ | DocScrutinizer, /msg xfade please give me access to the db | 19:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-P | 19:01 |
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| crashanddie_ | lardman, and you're surprised? | 19:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | dumbledore will know you cheated | 19:01 |
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| lardman | crashanddie_: well, it was really expensive, far more so than at a rugby match over here | 19:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer | hey, they know you won't go back home once you are there | 19:02 |
| crashanddie_ | DocScrutinizer, dumbledore is dead | 19:02 |
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| lardman | is there any info about new meego phones yet? | 19:03 |
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| lardman | some rumour about the N9 was what I last saw? | 19:03 |
| dumbledore | really? | 19:03 |
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| lardman | s/new/any | 19:03 |
| GAN900 | lardman, see the kayakers in the Bay waiting for home runs? | 19:03 |
| lardman | :) no, were on the other side | 19:03 |
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| GAN900 | lardman, well, half of that is SF, half of it is the worthless dollar and the rest is simply attraction food prices. | 19:04 |
| lardman | and there was only one actually, so watching more baseball in the bars I was surprised to see that it can be quite high scoring | 19:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | huh, what was that? did I write that? | 19:04 |
| lardman | yeah SF is very pricey | 19:04 |
| GAN900 | Garlic fries are really good there. | 19:04 |
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| GAN900 | lardman, baseball is very much a game of luck. | 19:04 |
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| GAN900 | lardman, do a Segway tour? | 19:05 |
| lardman | no, though there was one at my conf which I was trying to get a ride on | 19:05 |
| lardman | but failed | 19:05 |
| GAN900 | Too bad. | 19:06 |
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| GAN900 | lardman, where are you now? | 19:06 |
| lardman | back in UK, suffering from jetlag | 19:06 |
| GAN900 | Ah, did you go shooting? | 19:06 |
| lardman | in the end no, didn't really have the time in LV | 19:07 |
| lardman | but will have to arrange something next time we're over in a permissive state | 19:07 |
| GAN900 | Too bad, clearly you'll have to come to Florida some time so I can take you. :P | 19:07 |
| woglinde | hehe | 19:07 |
| lardman | sounds like a plan :) | 19:07 |
| woglinde | shooting | 19:07 |
| crashanddie_ | GAN900, is that an open invitation? | 19:07 |
| lardman | woglinde: get your mind out of the gutter! | 19:08 |
| GAN900 | crashanddie_, sure. | 19:08 |
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| crashanddie_ | GAN900, I'm bidding on a 5dmk2 and merlin steadicam | 19:08 |
| crashanddie_ | GAN900, it's very poorly advertised, and no bids -- 3 hours to go... 150 euros total | 19:09 |
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| GAN900 | Cool | 19:09 |
| woglinde | lard I only shot with uzi and g3 | 19:10 |
| GAN900 | lardman, they let you shoot at bottles of tannerite here. | 19:10 |
| woglinde | he and 120mm mortar | 19:10 |
| woglinde | but that was not in the us | 19:10 |
| lardman | GAN900: ah, just googled, so that blows up then? | 19:10 |
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| GAN900 | lardman, aye. :D | 19:11 |
| GAN900 | 1000yd range | 19:11 |
| slonopotamus | Ыщ... | 19:11 |
| slonopotamus | err... | 19:11 |
| lardman | woglinde: I've shot a shotgun, but that's about it | 19:11 |
| crashanddie_ | pfff, people comparing the guns they shot... | 19:11 |
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| crashanddie_ | I've downed approx 600 guys over the course of 2 years | 19:12 |
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| crashanddie_ | (as a national paintball competition player) | 19:12 |
| woglinde | hihi | 19:12 |
| woglinde | but paintball is not the same | 19:13 |
| woglinde | paintball is more like counterstrike | 19:13 |
| lardman | yeah, you don't worry too much about getting hit | 19:13 |
| crashanddie_ | no, but it teaches you good tactics | 19:13 |
| lardman | fun though, except that my mask always fogs up | 19:13 |
| lardman | the "fog of war" | 19:13 |
| woglinde | tactics? | 19:13 |
| woglinde | the only tatict I saw was shoot and forget | 19:13 |
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| lardman | ah we had some tactics, let one chap run out and get "killed" so we could see where they were hidden, etc. | 19:14 |
| woglinde | lol | 19:14 |
| woglinde | guess I were real | 19:14 |
| woglinde | who would do it | 19:14 |
| crashanddie_ | woglinde: this is 5 people strategic games on speed courses (ctf mode, on a 50 x 150m terrain), not just s&d in the woods | 19:14 |
| GAN900 | crashanddie_, not really. | 19:14 |
| GAN900 | crashanddie_, it teaches you DANGEROUS tactics for a real firefight. :P | 19:15 |
| woglinde | GAN900 right | 19:15 |
| lardman | also I understand that hiding behind a tree doesn't work so well against 7.62mm ;) | 19:15 |
| crashanddie_ | so you have good communication, with people covering your progress etc | 19:15 |
| lardman | crashanddie_: yeah agreed there | 19:15 |
| GAN900 | lardman, depends. | 19:15 |
| woglinde | lard man yes | 19:15 |
| lardman | GAN900: great redwood? ;) | 19:15 |
| GAN900 | Hehe | 19:15 |
| woglinde | lardman and you can get hit by wood splines too | 19:16 |
| crashanddie_ | it's not in the woods guys... it's tanks and buildings, or air-inflated obstacles | 19:16 |
| lardman | ditto air-inflated obstacles ;) | 19:16 |
| flashn | you hide behind your own bullets | 19:16 |
| crashanddie_ | lardman, I'd say redwoods would not offer much resistance, seeing how flaky their are | 19:16 |
| crashanddie_ | they** | 19:16 |
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| lardman | yeah but 10m thick | 19:17 |
| crashanddie_ | switching to laptop | 19:17 |
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| lardman | random relevant question, is pyside supported on PCs? | 19:17 |
| crashanddie | 10m thick mush is still just that, mush | 19:17 |
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| crashanddie | but yeah, competition paintball was heaps of fun, a lot more fun than regular. Plus, you get the added bonus of having equipment that can actually fire some stuff | 19:18 |
| crashanddie | most "rent" equipment will fire what, 3 balls per second, tops? | 19:19 |
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| slonopotamus | lardman: "supported" as in "will work" or "present in distros" or "will be fixed if non-naemo/meego bugs reported"? | 19:19 |
| crashanddie | The competition stuff, quite a bit more expensive, will shoot up to 18 balls per second, and if you chip it, it can go up to 30 balls per second | 19:19 |
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| slonopotamus | lardman: okay, gentoo has pyside in main tree | 19:19 |
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| lardman | slonopotamus: ok, so it's at least workable then, that's good | 19:21 |
| lardman | crashanddie: hmm, how many balls in a hopper? | 19:21 |
| crashanddie | lardman: 200 | 19:21 |
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| slonopotamus_ | meh | 19:22 |
| slonopotamus_ | bad gsm cables here :/ | 19:22 |
| crashanddie | lardman: depending on the event type (speedball, whatnot), each team has a limited amount of balls extra. In Speedball, it's something like 500 balls extra (from memory, don't quote me), so the guys in the back get a couple of extra loaders, while the guys in the front just storm and don't really have the time to empty the hopper | 19:23 |
| lardman | ok | 19:23 |
| * lardman just sees his £10 notes being fired out on full-auto | 19:24 | |
| lardman | :) | 19:24 |
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| lardman | at least there's not too much recoil, so they might all hit the same location | 19:24 |
| lardman | I suppose you'd need gas recharges too if you're firing that many balls | 19:24 |
| lardman | ? | 19:24 |
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| slonopotamus | :/ | 19:25 |
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| crashanddie | lardman: we bought 2000 balls for about 16 euros | 19:29 |
| lardman | not on the site then I guess? | 19:29 |
| lcuk | should make a printer out of them them | 19:29 |
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| woglinde | bye | 19:30 |
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| crashanddie | lardman: we use compressed air, and you're only allowed one recharge per game. Each game lasts 2 minutes (in speedball), or 5 minutes (normal) | 19:30 |
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| lardman | ah quite short then | 19:30 |
| lardman | I had one recharge and by the end of the day (3hr) was needing to ballistic lobs | 19:30 |
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| jkt | Hi folks, I've got a question about package versioning on Maemo (or rather on N900) -- I'm a developer of a desktop application, a Qt-based IMAP e-mail client called Trojita, http://trojita.flaska.net/ | 19:30 |
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| jkt | a guy came to me and offered to port it to N900, which is a great idea, except that ge already released a version with a version number that doesn't match anything I've done so far | 19:31 |
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| lardman | is his version lower or higher? | 19:32 |
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| jkt | I obviously want the version numbers to be synced between the desktop and maemo branches, and so far I've only done "0.1" while he released "0.1-1" and "0.2-1", see http://maemo.org/packages/view/trojita/ | 19:32 |
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| lardman | and does it need reversioning due to significant changes? | 19:32 |
| lardman | oh | 19:32 |
| crashanddie | depending on my role (I was more of a front player, but sometimes had to play pivot), I would use different barrels. Long barrel with custom end made my gun very loud, and brought attention to me, but also gave me increased accuracy so that I could help front-players out if needed. Short barrel for increased mobility and close-quarters combat. | 19:32 |
| crashanddie | sorry, "marker" | 19:33 |
| lardman | jkt: well it might be possible to remove the 0.2-x version, but I guess the -X part would be useful for the maemo port if it requires significant changes to the mainline | 19:33 |
| jkt | lardman: my "0.1" is ancient, his "0.1-1" and "0.2-1" are based on very similar codebase and differ essentially just in the Maemo GUI work | 19:33 |
| jkt | lardman: yes, I guess that development on Maemo GUI and on the IMAP core do not correlate much | 19:34 |
| lardman | do you plan to release a 0.2 any time soon? | 19:34 |
| lardman | in which case he could bump to 0.2-3 | 19:34 |
| jkt | I could, yeah | 19:34 |
| lardman | then keep your numbing for the main part, and add the dash stuff for maemo-isations | 19:34 |
| lardman | s/numbing/numbering | 19:35 |
| jkt | so I could call "0.2" the stuff I have in mainline right now, okay | 19:35 |
| lardman | yeah, that's my suggestion anyway | 19:35 |
| crashanddie | +1 | 19:35 |
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| lardman | you might want to also think about whether you'll want point releases - I don't know if a dash is higher than a point | 19:36 |
| jkt | well, the only thing which was holding me back from that is that I've a refactoring going on in a separate branch, so essentially any bugreports I get about that version I release might not be that much useful :( | 19:36 |
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| lardman | i.e. is 0.2-3 higher than 0.2.1-3? | 19:36 |
| slonopotamus | well. running n900 at a higher cpu freq makes more sense wrt the fact that usb connectors still tear off and are fixed by whole motherboard replacement :) | 19:36 |
| jkt | I come from gentoo land where 0.2.1-r3 is higher (we add a "-rXXX" for iterations of the packaging work) | 19:36 |
| slonopotamus | jkt: -r is special | 19:37 |
| alterego | dash is lower | 19:37 |
| lardman | than point | 19:37 |
| crashanddie | then | 19:37 |
| lardman | ? | 19:37 |
| jkt | so 0.2-3 < 0.2.1-2? that's cool (and expected) | 19:37 |
| crashanddie | oh, specifying, not concluding, my bad. | 19:38 |
| slonopotamus | jkt: debian policy has exact description on version strings and dpkg-smth is capable of comparing them | 19:38 |
| lardman | in which case you're fine, just ask him to use mainline and bump the dash version for his changes | 19:38 |
| jkt | okay | 19:38 |
| jkt | thanks a lot for your advice, guys | 19:38 |
| slonopotamus | jkt: dpkg --compare-versions | 19:38 |
| lardman | np | 19:39 |
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| slonopotamus | jkt: dpkg --compare-versions 0.2-3 lt 0.2.1-2 && echo 'less!' | 19:40 |
| slonopotamus | jkt: outputs less! | 19:40 |
| slonopotamus | jkt: you have dpkg in maemo | 19:40 |
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| crashanddie | man, I've been on unlimited moderating status for over 2 weeks now on slashdot | 19:41 |
| crashanddie | as soon as I hit 1 moderation point, I get 5 again | 19:41 |
| jkt | slonopotamus: I don't have a Maemo device | 19:41 |
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| crashanddie | lardman: what are you working on these days wrt to Maemo? | 19:42 |
| lardman | jkt: the maemo-patcher can compare, I think that should work fine and in any case your current numbering system doesn't need to know whether -<. | 19:42 |
| lardman | crashanddie: mbarcode | 19:42 |
| crashanddie | lardman: got any C++ stuff I could dig into? | 19:42 |
| lardman | yeah, see above | 19:42 |
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| lardman | maemo-barcode in Garage | 19:42 |
| crashanddie | k | 19:42 |
| slonopotamus | jkt: any debian-based distro will also work :) | 19:42 |
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| lardman | you want work to do or something to look at? | 19:42 |
| crashanddie | well, if you got bite-sized chunks of things to do | 19:42 |
| slonopotamus | jkt: there's also some crappy concept of "epochs" | 19:43 |
| lardman | take a look at both the Garage page and the mbarcode thread in TMO | 19:43 |
| crashanddie | I've got an interview on wednesday, need to undust the c++ skills | 19:43 |
| lardman | there's a todo list on the Garage page | 19:43 |
| crashanddie | k | 19:43 |
| lardman | https://garage.maemo.org/pm/task.php?group_project_id=1347&group_id=732&func=browse | 19:43 |
| lardman | some might be done now mind you, I've been away for 3 weeks | 19:44 |
| jkt | slonopotamus: thanks, I'll rtfm more, but I guess I can release 0.2 anyway, and the code will be very similar | 19:44 |
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| crashanddie | lardman: mind giving me a quick sitrep about the abook lookup thingy? | 19:45 |
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| lardman | abook header won't compile using C++ compiler, at least not easily | 19:45 |
| slonopotamus | jkt: debian policy works as a good reference manual for packaging for non-portage systems :) | 19:45 |
| lardman | would be good to wrap it so we can call the abook stuff directly rather than needing to write vCards to a file, then opening the file | 19:45 |
| lardman | but, the current method does work, so it's probably not essential | 19:46 |
| crashanddie | yeah, but seems like a fun task | 19:46 |
| lardman | of more interest would be some good webpage parsing plugins | 19:46 |
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| crashanddie | or that | 19:46 |
| crashanddie | :P | 19:46 |
| slonopotamus | lardman: don't you just wrap #include in extern "C" { ... } ? | 19:46 |
| crashanddie | lardman: are you using any web libraries? | 19:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | err wut? writing vcards to file? :-S | 19:46 |
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| lardman | to perform a lookup of an EAN, and return in some standard format stuff like name, author, desc, review, tracks, etc., etc | 19:46 |
| jkt | slonopotamus: my ultimate goal for world domination was to have the packaging done by third parties :) | 19:47 |
| lardman | DocScrutinizer: and then using MIME to open them using the Contacts app | 19:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | friggin berkley db | 19:47 |
| crashanddie | jkt: is this some morbid joke where you wrap dead people in giftwrap? | 19:47 |
| slonopotamus | jkt: hehe :) that just requires convincing one man per distro of packaging your app :) | 19:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | I guess barisione's ringtone app doesn't do that to injext special X-RINGTONE field to contacts, or to read that out | 19:48 |
| lardman | crashanddie: the other one I'm working on now is a plugin that allows external apps to register an interest (and button) so that they can be called and passed barcode info using DBus | 19:49 |
| jkt | slonopotamus: in this particular phase, I just wanted to package software, but well, now that you've revealed my ultimate plans, I have no option but to, well, eliminate you | 19:49 |
| jkt | meh | 19:49 |
| slonopotamus | meh | 19:49 |
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| lardman | so that might be of use for e.g. existing shopping list apps, mapping apps (geo://), etc | 19:49 |
| jkt | s/slonopotamus/crashanddie/ | 19:49 |
| slonopotamus | s/meh/yay!/ | 19:50 |
| infobot | slonopotamus meant: yay! | 19:50 |
| jkt | sorry, tab doesn't work for me today | 19:50 |
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| marcus | Anybody know how to right-click in microB? | 19:50 |
| crashanddie | marcus: tap and hold | 19:50 |
| marcus | Aha, I see now, yeah. I totally forgot that! | 19:51 |
| marcus | Thx | 19:51 |
| lardman | slonopotamus: no clue, perhaps, I'm not a C++ programmer | 19:51 |
| lardman | crashanddie: re web libs, what do you mean? | 19:51 |
| slonopotamus | lardman: me neither. that never was an excuse :) | 19:51 |
| crashanddie | lardman: well, the easiest way to parse a webpage is to use a DOM format | 19:51 |
| lardman | I know, well I was short of time then :) | 19:51 |
| lardman | sure, so a lib to do the parsing | 19:51 |
| crashanddie | lardman: and the only valid way to do so. | 19:51 |
| lardman | no, I've not had time to work out the api and write anything | 19:52 |
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| crashanddie | lardman: I don't think we need to write anything, there's bunchloads of libs that do that | 19:52 |
| barisione | DocScrutinizer: hm? | 19:52 |
| lardman | but that would be very useful, as all we really have atm are the barcodes - they can be sent to Google, but that's not as useful as doing the lookup and returning the actual info | 19:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | barisione: [2010-08-02 18:45:54] <lardman> would be good to wrap it so we can call the abook stuff directly rather than needing to write vCards to a file, then opening the file | 19:52 |
| barisione | lardman: the abook headers should work in C++, in the past they didn't because the maemo port of gtk broke it | 19:53 |
| barisione | lardman: and yeah, there are better ways to import stuff in the address book | 19:53 |
| lardman | barisione: hmm, how recently were they changed? They wouldn't work a month or so ago iirc | 19:53 |
| crashanddie | lardman: ok, will look into that, which trunk is the current version? mbarcode-qt or maemo-barcode? | 19:53 |
| lardman | mbarcode-qt | 19:53 |
| barisione | lardman: it was supposed to be fixed in pr1.2 | 19:53 |
| lardman | plugins in mbarcode-qt-plugins | 19:53 |
| barisione | lardman: what's the problem? | 19:53 |
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| lardman | barisione: compilation problems that look to be C vs C++ related, I don't have it here as this was from a month or more ago | 19:54 |
| barisione | DocScrutinizer: and berkley db what? | 19:54 |
| lardman | crashanddie: someone who knows DOM/JSON/whatever those damn parsers use would be very useful :) | 19:55 |
| lardman | bbiab | 19:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer | barisione: abook db is berkley I've been told | 19:56 |
| barisione | yes, but you aren't touching it directly, are you? | 19:57 |
| crashanddie | lardman|afk: Qt provides a DOM parser, so I'll be looking into that. Every parser is the same, you just load a document, locate whatever you need to locate, and extract the information. Pretty simple really. | 19:59 |
| slonopotamus | DocScrutinizer, jacekowski: is it time for open initfs yet? | 19:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | barisione: obviously not, due to missing tools for berkley | 19:59 |
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| mikhas | barisione, lardman: I am using abook in C++ code myself, no compilation problems | 19:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | barisione: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2010-07-16.log.html#t2010-07-16T22:49:04 | 19:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | no python bindings for that? | 20:00 |
| barisione | DocScrutinizer: missing tools? and even if there were tools, would you really want to read it directly? that's evil | 20:00 |
| mikhas | crashanddie, and every DOM parser clogs up your memory =p | 20:01 |
| crashanddie | mikhas: well, only if you use them wrong | 20:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | sure it's evil. But as it's now there's no way at all to access on a painless level in e.g scripts or python programs? | 20:01 |
| crashanddie | mikhas: and since I've ported libxerces to maemo, I have a fair understanding of how they work ;) | 20:01 |
| crashanddie | mikhas: but yeah, some parsers suck donkey balls. | 20:01 |
| mikhas | crashanddie, there is a right way to parse large documents with DOM parsers? | 20:01 |
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| crashanddie | mikhas: sure. Use SAX :D | 20:02 |
| mikhas | well ... | 20:02 |
| barisione | DocScrutinizer: but why would you access it directly? the DB is just an internal thing | 20:02 |
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| mikhas | I actually prefer sax parsers | 20:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | I was thinking about doing exactly what you did, but not on such an involved level of C++ coding | 20:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | so I stopped that project | 20:03 |
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| barisione | touching the DB directly is a sure way to break stuff | 20:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, I considered to keep the X-RINGTONE field as a comment | 20:04 |
| crashanddie | mikhas: as with everything, you have to code with a specific target in mind -- speed or memory. In case of the N900, speed will never be blistering, and memory is a frivolous thing... | 20:04 |
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| barisione | well, but there is an API to access it and the format of the DB can change (and changed in the past) | 20:04 |
| mikhas | you mean, dont use xml? =p | 20:04 |
| mikhas | (and the API even works) | 20:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | barisione: granted. I just want a cmdline tool to access it. No matter which api that cmdline tool is based on | 20:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | see, I hate all stuff in unix not accessable via cmdline | 20:05 |
| barisione | python has modules for it and the abook bit that access it is open | 20:05 |
| crashanddie | mikhas: also, I tend to prefer SAX myself (as a Java dev). Qt is quite event driven as well, so it kinda makes sense | 20:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | python has? :-D | 20:06 |
| barisione | but if you try to modify the DB you will break stuff (there are external indices) | 20:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | so that's enough cmdliny for me | 20:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer | barisione: I didn't plan to edit it in hex editor :-P | 20:06 |
| barisione | bsddb | 20:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'm aware you easily can fsckup DB | 20:07 |
| crashanddie | can I do dist-upgrade in scratchbox? | 20:07 |
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| barisione | crashanddie: yes | 20:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | barisione: just a short reminder as I forgot: is your ringtone app in extras-devel now, or external .deb? | 20:09 |
| barisione | crashanddie: but it could break stuff that you could have to fix manually | 20:09 |
| barisione | extras-devel | 20:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | k, thnx | 20:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | (need to re-install, after nuking it yesterday) | 20:09 |
| crashanddie | barisione: so should I apt-get update first? Or just dist-upgrade directly? | 20:10 |
| GNU\caust1c | is it possible to increase the frequency range the fm receiver can receive? | 20:10 |
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| crashanddie | GNU\caust1c: nope -- you can get the japanese frequencies IIRC, but not much more | 20:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | GNU\caust1c: 78..108 | 20:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | iirc | 20:11 |
| crashanddie | as in, don't ask to receive FM 800Mhz | 20:11 |
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| barisione | crashanddie: I just use update+upgrade in my (internal version) of scratchbox. doing it has been known for breaking things, but it was for internal updates and tbh I never had any problem | 20:11 |
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| crashanddie | well, I'll try, if it breaks, I'll just nuke it and reinstall | 20:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | GNU\caust1c: though... I never checked back with the chip's datasheet | 20:12 |
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| GNU\caust1c | okay :) | 20:13 |
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| MOUD | Hey all | 20:14 |
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| MOUD | Is anyone running an overclocked n900? | 20:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | MOUD: NO! | 20:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | everybody doing that is running a broken N900 | 20:15 |
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| MOUD | DocScrutinizer, ok ok, no need to be all in capital letters | 20:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~tell MOUD about omap-oc | 20:15 |
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| SpeedEvil | I think actually there are no reports of overclocking failures as all who have tried have been killed in the explosion. | 20:16 |
| luke-jr | lol | 20:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | MOUD: sorry that's your nick :-P | 20:16 |
| PolarFox | Capital punishment for OC | 20:16 |
| MOUD | no problem :) | 20:16 |
| TomaszD | off with his head | 20:17 |
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| MOUD | is anyone running psx4all on maemo? If so, which version do you use? | 20:24 |
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| MOUD | I got to go. Bye everyone | 20:29 |
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| chadi | doesn't nitdroid run at 1ghz on teh n900? | 20:31 |
| BugBlue | overclocking to run software that doesn't do real good powermanagement yet? | 20:33 |
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| lardman|afk | mikhas: sorry for the delay, is your code available for me to look at? | 20:34 |
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| mikhas | lardman|afk, it is, but it will make your eyes bleed | 20:35 |
| mikhas | can you afford losing them? | 20:35 |
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| Shapeshifter | mhh. thought I'd try out tear. launching it restarted my device... | 20:36 |
| Shapeshifter | is there any simple KISS browser for maemo? | 20:36 |
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| lardman|afk | mikhas: lol | 20:37 |
| lardman|afk | what was the required special incarnation to get it to work then? | 20:37 |
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| lardman|afk | incantation even | 20:37 |
| mikhas | lardman|afk, see http://gitorious.org/miniature/miniature/blobs/master/src/telepathy/tpgame.cc (check for the ugly ifdefs) - but you've been warned! | 20:37 |
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| mikhas | it is simply not cleaned up | 20:37 |
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| mikhas | but when mixing gtk+, abook and Qt this is no suprise | 20:38 |
| lardman|afk | thanks, will take a look and see if I can get it working | 20:38 |
| mikhas | you should be able to do it without the gtk+ stuff, as that is only for dialogs. you're mostly interested in the data from abook | 20:38 |
| lardman|afk | yeah, exactly, I'd hoped the contacts app backend would have already been wrapped in the Qt stuff really | 20:38 |
| lardman|afk | yep, so just glib stuff needed | 20:39 |
| mikhas | well, the contact roster should be easy to redo | 20:39 |
| mikhas | (in a Qt-ish way) | 20:39 |
| Venemo | lardman|afk: Qt Mobility may help you with that | 20:39 |
| lardman|afk | this slow break from gtk+ to Qt is as bad if not worse than the pr1.2 break in terms of lost productivity | 20:39 |
| lardman|afk | Venemo: does it work/is it available in the repo? | 20:40 |
| mikhas | (and does it use abook?) | 20:40 |
| Venemo | lardman|afk: Qt Mobility can access the contacts from the contacts app, yes | 20:41 |
| Venemo | lardman|afk: although it is not a very good solution yet | 20:41 |
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| lardman|afk | hmm, well assuming the api won't change that might be worth a look | 20:42 |
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| lardman|afk | I'll see if I can find it in the repo and do some reading - I did look at it a month or so ago to use it for file opening based on mime types, but it didn't work | 20:43 |
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| mikhas | Venemo, got details regarding "although it is not a very good solution yet" | 20:43 |
| Venemo | mikhas: yes | 20:43 |
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| mikhas | I mean, the answer should be binary =p | 20:43 |
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| Venemo | mikhas: it does only work with latin character | 20:44 |
| mikhas | uuuuh | 20:44 |
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| lardman|afk | hmm, well that's actually a limitation of mbarcode atm too, so perhaps not such a major problem | 20:46 |
| lardman|afk | I guess you're working on fixing that? | 20:46 |
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| Venemo | already fixed | 20:48 |
| Venemo | fix is just not yet released | 20:48 |
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| lardman | ok, I'll have another look and also see if I can't remember what the issue was of the openurl() vs hildonmime openuri fn | 20:49 |
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| lardman | oops, he's quit | 20:49 |
| slonopotamus | -.- | 20:49 |
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| lardman | I'm going to follow suit, bbl | 20:53 |
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| technomike | Oh no!! | 20:54 |
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| technomike | My N900 won't get past Nokia screen | 20:54 |
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| frals | would be great if all the coding competition voting threads would be unstickied in applications subforum now ;o | 21:00 |
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| GNU\caust1c | again about the fm radio: i can only go down to 87.5 (using the fm radio program). i guess its some regional restriction? | 21:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer | fsckng 4682 posts on overclocking-N900? tmo thread | 21:21 |
| * DocScrutinizer facepalms | 21:21 | |
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| DocScrutinizer | GNU\caust1c: using FM-booster/whatever app you can extend to some 78MHz iirc | 21:22 |
| lcuk | DocScrutinizer, ok, so theres a diehard group of 3-4 people | 21:22 |
| lcuk | i recall the pr1.2 thread had about 100k posts and was mostly populated by only a handful of folks :D | 21:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer | WUT? 100k??? :-O | 21:23 |
| lcuk | something silly like that | 21:23 |
| GNU\caust1c | fm-booster is only for the sender, no? | 21:23 |
| * lcuk cannot remember offhand | 21:23 | |
| DocScrutinizer | eliza chatting with /dev/urandom? | 21:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | well this seems a matching tag for whole tmo :-P | 21:24 |
| mece | GNU\caust1c: yes. | 21:24 |
| SpeedEvil | GNU\caust1c: yes | 21:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | GNU\caust1c: oops yes, but there's something for RX as well | 21:25 |
| GNU\caust1c | okay, i'll search, thanks :) | 21:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer | yw | 21:25 |
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| tobis87 | hi! i have installed sshfs and adduser, after that added the group fuse and added user to fuse. i also have changed /dev/fuse with chgrp to root.fuse. i can mount, but when i want to umount with fusermount -u mountpoint, i do get "filesystem is not in fstab" | 21:26 |
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| mece | hmm-- bzflag. | 21:27 |
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| tobis87 | what am I doing wrong? | 21:27 |
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| tobis87 | on the n900 | 21:28 |
| mece | omg bzflag has the longest list of things to check in condigure I've ever seen.. daaaam! | 21:28 |
| mece | s/condigure/configure/ | 21:29 |
| infobot | mece meant: omg bzflag has the longest list of things to check in configure I've ever seen.. daaaam! | 21:29 |
| mece | make | 21:29 |
| mece | errm.. oops | 21:29 |
| * mece is "making" | 21:29 | |
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| technomike | Do I really need to install linux just to use the flasher app to flash my N900 to get it working again? :'( | 21:30 |
| toggles_w | no, you could run an ubuntu live cd | 21:30 |
| * toggles_w ducks | 21:30 | |
| technomike | Damn but I | 21:31 |
| toggles_w | there should be a windows version | 21:31 |
| technomike | would still have to dl | 21:31 |
| technomike | *download | 21:31 |
| technomike | ah | 21:31 |
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| toggles_w | but that's not very techno mike | 21:31 |
| technomike | I installed the rescueboot app, made backup images, and I screwed up something today, so I went and fired up the rescueboot menu and restored rootfs, now its not getting past the nokia screen and rescueboot won't even boot :( | 21:32 |
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| tobis87 | i can however umount with root, should i therefore put fusermount into sudoers? on my other linux machines it does work. | 21:32 |
| tobis87 | without putting it in sudoers | 21:33 |
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| toggles_w | technomike: https://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware#Windows | 21:35 |
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| DocScrutinizer | tobis87: fstab gets mangled on boot time. So it's basically unusable | 21:36 |
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| tobis87 | i do mount it manuell, so there was never an entry in fstab | 21:36 |
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| tobis87 | but unmounting a fuse filesystem should work without root | 21:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm, maybe | 21:37 |
| technomike | toggles_w - Many thanks, and sorry for my non-googling first before asking :P I found the same link from Google. | 21:38 |
| technomike | Thanks :) | 21:38 |
| toggles_w | no wukkas | 21:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | maybe only for the user actually mounting it? maybe for the user under group fuse? | 21:38 |
| tobis87 | i have already added user to the group fuse, which i had to create first | 21:39 |
| tobis87 | and i also have chgrp /dev/fuse to root.fuse | 21:39 |
| toggles_w | damn i wish i'd paid more attention in math 2 3 | 21:40 |
| tobis87 | and i was able to mount it as an user not as root. yes i know that fstab gets mangled, since i changed the swap partition to a virtual created with ramzswap (compcache) | 21:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | and you tried to run fusermount -u mountpoint under which user, which in turn has which group permissions? | 21:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm, sorry no idea then | 21:41 |
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| tobis87 | DocScrutinizer: i run fusermount -u as an user, the default n900 user. and this user is also in the group fuse | 21:42 |
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| * DocScrutinizer wonders who's been the guy to share a livecam view ofer fusefs, from N900 | 21:45 | |
| DocScrutinizer | over* | 21:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK? | 21:45 |
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| cehteh | i once sshfs mounted my server on the DCIM folder | 21:53 |
| cehteh | instant publishing | 21:54 |
| tobis87 | DocScrutinizer: Thank you anyway. Are there any news on USB hostmode? I also have read that there is hardware crypto acceleration inside the TI OMAP 3430?! | 21:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | cehteh: yeah, it's been you | 21:54 |
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| cehteh | http://public.pipapo.org | 21:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | tobis87: hostmode is a little bit in hybernation atm. But may change in a few days when old OM folks get their devel devices and join in | 21:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | paul and mickey uttered threats they won't leave it untouched :-D | 21:56 |
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| cehteh | http://public.pipapo.org/20100313_012.jpg :) | 21:56 |
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| mrmoku | DocScrutinizer: you can bet :) | 21:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer | and mrmoku of course :-D | 21:57 |
| SpeedEvil | cehteh: that's disgusting. | 21:57 |
| SpeedEvil | cehteh: The lights are _way_ blowing out the image. | 21:57 |
| cehteh | yes just snapshots, and before i used a black marker to paint the lens slider rim | 21:58 |
| cehteh | the photos are not good | 21:58 |
| cehteh | but the food was good .. Chemnitzer Linuxtage :) | 21:59 |
| lcuk | cehteh, http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/08/02/1446211 | 22:00 |
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| lcuk | cehteh, instant publishing maybe, but I tried that a while ago and having and expecting data to be live written like that causes problems - much better to have something watching specific folders and upload those using whatever conncetivity is available | 22:01 |
| cehteh | yeah prolly not the lights :) | 22:01 |
| lcuk | out of band with the activity | 22:01 |
| cehteh | this was just a joke but worked well | 22:02 |
| technomike | Sorry if this sounds stupid, but flashing my device will not cause me to lose the eMMC contents will it? (The data on the mass storage, 32gb memory) | 22:02 |
| technomike | Just confirming | 22:02 |
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| cehteh | unless you flash the emmc image, no | 22:02 |
| tobis87 | DocScrutinizer: I have already buyed an female to female usb adapter for this, but as far as I have understood it, It will only support a certain amount of mA? Is there a hardware list which lists ethernet to usb nics and their amount of mA they need to work? | 22:02 |
| SpeedEvil | tobis87: any will work. | 22:03 |
| SpeedEvil | tobis87: It supports the full normal amount of power USB provides. | 22:04 |
| SpeedEvil | tobis87: However. It is not yet working. | 22:04 |
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| SpeedEvil | (usb host) | 22:04 |
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| GNU\caust1c | hm, i cannot find anything about increasing the fm receiver range in the forum :/ | 22:04 |
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| SpeedEvil | GNU\caust1c: you mean reciever? | 22:05 |
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| technomike | wait | 22:05 |
| technomike | I don | 22:05 |
| GNU\caust1c | receiver, i guess | 22:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer | tobis87: not anyone I know of, and limit is 200mA | 22:05 |
| SpeedEvil | GNU\caust1c: plug USB lead into top of phone, phones into bottom. That may help. | 22:05 |
| SpeedEvil | Err - I thought it was 500. | 22:06 |
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| * SpeedEvil wonders where he got that from. | 22:06 | |
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| DocScrutinizer | FR? | 22:06 |
| GNU\caust1c | SpeedEvil: i'm trying to increase the frequency range | 22:06 |
| SpeedEvil | GNU\caust1c: Ah - you can't. | 22:06 |
| technomike | wait, I don't need to download any images if I have image backups of rootfs and optfs do I ? I can just flash those directly | 22:06 |
| SpeedEvil | GNU\caust1c: Well - you can't - over the hardware spec - which is considerably wider than 88-108 | 22:06 |
| SpeedEvil | GNU\caust1c: what range? | 22:06 |
| GNU\caust1c | i want to use the asian range | 22:07 |
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| th3hate | Where does maemo store contacts information? is there is specific folder? | 22:07 |
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| cehteh | th3hate: some sqlite db somewhere | 22:08 |
| tobis87 | DocScrutinizer: :-(, at least I could sync my data from a 3.5'' disk. | 22:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer | GNU\caust1c: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=48866 | 22:09 |
| GNU\caust1c | yeah, found that thread | 22:11 |
| SpeedEvil | the FM reciever is controlled through the video4linux API | 22:12 |
| SpeedEvil | you need some software to poke this - in the absence of the GUI doing it | 22:12 |
| GNU\caust1c | ok | 22:12 |
| SpeedEvil | I'd also wonder if FMRadio could be simply modified to do this, I suspect so | 22:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | ping TomaszD, he should know all about it | 22:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=36177 | 22:14 |
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| th3hate | cehteh, i think the sqlite db is in the 256MB NAND memory where the rootfs is | 22:14 |
| cehteh | i doubt that .. but i forgot the location | 22:15 |
| cehteh | th3hate: /home/user/.osso-abook/db/ | 22:16 |
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| th3hate | cehteh, thanks | 22:17 |
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| nox- | moin | 22:18 |
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| ShadowJK | DocScrutinizer, not me | 22:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | yup, was cehteh | 22:19 |
| nox- | which repo has unzip? | 22:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | th3hate: it's a berkley db | 22:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | no SQLite | 22:20 |
| nox- | and has anyone used cpan on an n900? | 22:20 |
| th3hate | how to open it? | 22:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | see backscroll, search for berkley | 22:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | or for barisione | 22:20 |
| th3hate | will try now | 22:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | 22:22 |
| SpeedEvil | http://pastebin.com/QzkZ7tEg GNU\caust1c | 22:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | nox-: unzip is either devel or tools | 22:22 |
| SpeedEvil | GNU\caust1c: which raises the possibility it may be more complex | 22:23 |
| SpeedEvil | (due to above limits) | 22:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: are there any decent datasheets for that friggin broadcom chip? | 22:23 |
| SpeedEvil | dunno, I've not looked | 22:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer | that might explain why the hardware wiki pages don't hold any link :-P | 22:24 |
| nox- | thx, ill look | 22:24 |
| th3hate | When i connect n900 via usb it says not charging insufficent power | 22:24 |
| SpeedEvil | :) | 22:24 |
| SpeedEvil | Indeed. | 22:24 |
| th3hate | how to give sufficent power? | 22:24 |
| SpeedEvil | th3hate: Take the USB cable apart, and wire teh red and blank leads directly to a mains plug, and plug it in. | 22:25 |
| SpeedEvil | (no, not really) | 22:25 |
| SpeedEvil | you're plugging it into a PC> | 22:25 |
| th3hate | err.. | 22:25 |
| SpeedEvil | Plug it directly in, not through an unpowered hub | 22:25 |
| th3hate | it's plugged directly | 22:26 |
| GNU\caust1c | SpeedEvil: hmk | 22:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer | th3hate: if the PC is enummerating it as a 500mA device, and that's not sufficient, then you probably do nasty things like overclocking, running joghurt sport, or dunno what | 22:26 |
| th3hate | used to charge 30 min's ago but stopped now | 22:26 |
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| th3hate | actually stopped after transfering a 4GB movie | 22:27 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer: making coffee! | 22:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | kerio: for `sudo make c0ffe` you need working hostmode, and that doesn't match with plugging it into a PC | 22:28 |
| kerio | no, i mean, with the n900 | 22:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | sure, me too | 22:29 |
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| kerio | overclock it to 1ghz and run a primality test for a very large number | 22:29 |
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| kerio | that'll heat it up nicely | 22:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | still you need the stirring motor attached to USB in Hostmode | 22:29 |
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| technomike | does flashing restore rootfs only or rootfs and oftfs? | 22:30 |
| crashanddie | Jaffa: is there anything else you need doing? | 22:31 |
| SpeedEvil | Please, take them! | 22:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | flashing COMBINED will restore rootfs (and /opt), flashing VANILLA will erase and restore the eMMC | 22:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer | which is basically /opt, /home, and ~user/MyDocs | 22:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer | so flashing VANILLA always needs to flash COMBINED, preferably after that | 22:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | to restore /opt | 22:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | and ~user/* | 22:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | btw wtf is oftfs? | 22:36 |
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| technomike | so I am right to be flashing RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.19-1.203.1_PR_COMBINED_203_ARM.bin | 22:36 |
| technomike | because I do NOT want to erase eMMC | 22:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | yep, if you're in "203" | 22:36 |
| technomike | I am :) | 22:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer | k | 22:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | go ahead | 22:36 |
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| technomike | Thanks alot. Just wanted to confirm. Because need the contents on the eMMC :P | 22:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | but anyway do a backup using backup tool | 22:37 |
| technomike | I already have backup images on the eMMC, I tried to do a rootfs restore before, and it messed up and bricked my N900. | 22:38 |
| technomike | backup images of rootfs and optfs | 22:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | o.O | 22:38 |
| technomike | using RescueBoot | 22:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer | aah | 22:38 |
| technomike | Do you know what I mean? Not sure if its called RescueBoot now... but I think it is | 22:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | no, I'm talking about simple backup app to save your desktop settings and whatnot | 22:39 |
| technomike | Ah yeah" | 22:39 |
| technomike | :) | 22:39 |
| technomike | well here we go. going to attempt flash now | 22:39 |
| * DocScrutinizer waves | 22:39 | |
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| kerio | why do i have libsdl-mixer1.2 *still* conflicting? | 22:55 |
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| slonopotamus | kerio: because it's maemo. | 22:56 |
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| technomike | Its done :) Thanks DocScrutinizer | 23:01 |
| Echoo | Anyone here who has more then 4 desktops on their N900? | 23:02 |
| Echoo | I saw a thread about it on maemo.org but it wasn't all clear if it worked or not | 23:02 |
| Echoo | And how it effects the phone | 23:02 |
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| crashanddie | affects | 23:03 |
| Echoo | yeah yeah,,,English isn't my native language | 23:03 |
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| Echoo | saw it, but didn't wanna correct myself hehe | 23:03 |
| crashanddie | neither is it mine. | 23:03 |
| tank-man | my speech to text program isnt perfect either | 23:03 |
| Echoo | anyways back to the question pl0x | 23:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer | GNU\caust1c: https://garage.maemo.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=1877 | 23:04 |
| crashanddie | tank-man: stt apps don't write "isn't" | 23:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer | isnt | 23:05 |
| tank-man | my text to speech app isnt named Data | 23:06 |
| tank-man | :) | 23:06 |
| GNU\caust1c | thx :) | 23:06 |
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| mece | hmm bzflag compiles and runs just fine in scratchbox x86.. | 23:08 |
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| tobis87 | How many times can you reflash the n900 before the memory wears? | 23:09 |
| nox- | hm | 23:10 |
| tobis87 | or will the cpu of the n900 be long dead before the memory starts to wear? | 23:10 |
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| nox- | i guess there is not another repo with perl things like Text::Iconv? | 23:11 |
| luke-jr | tobis87: if you're just reflashing, that's trivial | 23:11 |
| nid0 | in realistic terms, your n900 will be in a museum and youll be dead before the flash memory in the device nackers from writes | 23:11 |
| luke-jr | tobis87: be worried about journal and swap first | 23:11 |
| lcuk | tobis87, there are people who flash n900s many times a day (myself, Stskeeps and a load more around here) and have yet to see memory device eol | 23:11 |
| tobis87 | luke-jr: i already do i use ramzswap with a size of 32mb and the swap as backing store. | 23:12 |
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| luke-jr | tobis87: does that make a difference? | 23:13 |
| luke-jr | N900 swaps too much period | 23:13 |
| nid0 | lower swappiness tbh | 23:13 |
| luke-jr | tobis87: personally, I want to use swap on external MicroSD | 23:13 |
| luke-jr | faster and disposable | 23:13 |
| tobis87 | lcuk: i have done so many modifications to the n900, and i have not flashed it for two month. | 23:13 |
| luke-jr | but Fremantle kernel likes to panic over it | 23:13 |
| lcuk | tobis87, my devices go through phases | 23:15 |
| tobis87 | luke-jr: not with the latest from may, it is fixed. i set swapiness to 50 and it swaps out ~80MB with 5 application opened, 80mb is size witch fit inside the 32mb ramzswap, because it is compressed. | 23:15 |
| lcuk | sometimes the flashes last a week or two, other times multiple flashes a day | 23:16 |
| luke-jr | tobis87: the 20101501 has the problem | 23:17 |
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| marcus_ | What are the differences between VLC and VLC-player in n900 repository? | 23:17 |
| pronto | one gets you laid | 23:17 |
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| marcus_ | pronto: Oh gawd! | 23:17 |
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| pronto | i'm useless, i know , i'll shut up now | 23:18 |
| marcus_ | pronto: By some 3d hologram or? | 23:18 |
| pronto | 4d o.o | 23:18 |
| pronto | it's one more D then 3D , like my report cards! | 23:18 |
| marcus_ | pronto: So I can smell her as well? | 23:18 |
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| SpeedEvil | marcus_: No - it supports thetoy.co.uk over bluetooth | 23:18 |
| marcus_ | Rofl | 23:19 |
| lcuk | pronto, can you identify which is which? | 23:19 |
| marcus_ | Back on topic though :p | 23:19 |
| lcuk | or is it like schrodingers pussy? | 23:19 |
| pronto | that is for you to figure out and me to BOOM! | 23:19 |
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| lcuk | SpeedEvil, i like the rugged bombproof case that comes in | 23:19 |
| marcus_ | So pronto: Could you go back in time and find out which one _didn't_ get you laid, so I can get right one? | 23:20 |
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| pronto | ;_; | 23:20 |
| marcus_ | ;) | 23:20 |
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| tobis87 | sorry I have got things messed up, yes it is the version form january. i hacked the fstab creation file to point it to ramzswap and added the "/sbin/modprobe ramzswap && sleep 1" before the swapon -a in a startup file | 23:21 |
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| tobis87 | luke-jr: my version is form 20100124:http://code.google.com/p/compcache/source/detail?r=7f18e56b4acb7dd83aeecc371ed14d82d6f2b86a http://code.google.com/p/compcache/source/detail?r=0b3ae470397ed35ea06923963aca8101654fe582 | 23:25 |
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| * crashanddie is classifying/archiving/cleaning up his inbox for the first time in 9 months | 23:41 | |
| crashanddie | 4800 emails to go through... | 23:42 |
| technomike | woah | 23:42 |
| technomike | I have to go through and clean my inbox out, only around 2000 though for me | 23:42 |
| technomike | *- only | 23:43 |
| tobis87 | imap or local? | 23:43 |
| crashanddie | tobis87: gmail | 23:44 |
| technomike | same ^ | 23:44 |
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| trumee | anybody trying g729 codec on N900, dont bother, it eats 20% more cpu than pcmu | 23:44 |
| trumee | g729 on N900 is a fail | 23:45 |
| trumee | luke-jr: what codec do you use for talking to asterisk? | 23:45 |
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| alterego | Actually it appears my keyboard is working fine now .. | 23:47 |
| alterego | Oh well, I suppose I can consider the replacement I ordered a nice refurb, as the buttons are wearing out on this keyboard. | 23:48 |
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| GAN900 | 100% cpu scrolling stick | 23:55 |
| GAN900 | I love it | 23:55 |
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