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| maddler | kkito: using VNC? | 00:01 |
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| kkito | maddler, no | 00:03 |
| kkito | it runs fast! | 00:03 |
| kkito | kde4 :) | 00:03 |
| bergie | hey, anyone here good with dbus? I'm trying to figure out why maemoplazer's service doesn't work | 00:05 |
| bergie | ...and #dbus seems quiet | 00:05 |
| maddler | kkito: kde4 on n800? 1st of april is still away... :) | 00:06 |
| kkito | maddler, kdelibs running on the n800 not all the entire desktop | 00:09 |
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| maddler | kkito: hmmm... I'd be happy to give it a try.. | 00:12 |
| maddler | beside of screen real estate problems... :) | 00:12 |
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| bipolar | kkito: it's working? | 00:20 |
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| GeeZuZz | Does anyone know how i can make Canola connect to a media server? | 01:05 |
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| bergie | GeeZuZz: It should notice media servers automatically | 01:42 |
| bergie | (at least it does in my network) | 01:42 |
| GeeZuZz | so you mean i should just select "audio library", and it's there? Or do you mean that the web config should find it, and let me configure it? | 01:45 |
| GeeZuZz | Cause i've tried with two different server software (listed on their page), and i can't see any files/servers in canola. Both are detected fine in "Media streamer" app | 01:46 |
| bergie | GeeZuZz: Shared audio | 01:46 |
| bergie | "Audio library" is the local music | 01:46 |
| GeeZuZz | lol | 01:47 |
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| GeeZuZz | i can't believe i missed that... i was so sure it needed to be configured first, and by "shared" i thought shared as in sharing from my device, so i didn't even try. | 01:48 |
| GeeZuZz | thanks :P | 01:48 |
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| bergie | GeeZuZz: np | 02:03 |
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| Markov | hey'a. is there a way to "toggle" the drag-to-scroll function in the n800 web browser? | 03:56 |
| Markov | so that I can drag to select, or drag items in web2.0 apps? | 03:56 |
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| Markov | t'would be nice if I could hold down the d-button to toggle this off | 03:57 |
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| mauropm | Hello | 04:21 |
| mauropm | Any of you know how to take a look into the network logs? My n800 is not connecting to any Wifi. :( | 04:22 |
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| Unique311 | hello | 05:47 |
| Unique311 | new n800 user | 05:47 |
| Unique311 | anybody home | 05:47 |
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| chibiAcyd | somewhat | 05:48 |
| Unique311 | good enough | 05:48 |
| Unique311 | do u use the stream player | 05:49 |
| Unique311 | accuradio bull | 05:49 |
| Unique311 | how do i ad my own stacion | 05:50 |
| Unique311 | nvm | 05:51 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 10:47 |
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| tigert | morn | 11:10 |
| elephantum | hi all | 11:10 |
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| ptman | tigert: I get some errors using your theme: | 11:11 |
| ptman | usr/share/themes/plankton/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:1: Unable to locate image file in pixmap_path: "../images/qgn_plat_application_chat_background.jpg" | 11:11 |
| tigert | on terminal? | 11:11 |
| tigert | yeah | 11:11 |
| tigert | thats missing | 11:12 |
| ptman | ak, just made sure you know | 11:12 |
| tigert | yeah, thanks for the effort :) | 11:12 |
| elephantum | how should I reconvert video for comfortable viewing on my n800? | 11:14 |
| Jaffa | elephantum: http://maemo.org/maemowiki/VideoEncoding has details (including <plug>http://bleb.org/software/maemo/#encode</plug) | 11:14 |
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| Jaffa | elephantum: but beware of the fact that the N800's video player will stall on long videos. | 11:14 |
| elephantum | Jaffa: thanks ) | 11:15 |
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| dev-zero | hi everyone | 12:25 |
| dev-zero | I have a problem when I try to install either dropbear-client or ssh | 12:26 |
| dev-zero | [: ==: unknown operand | 12:26 |
| dev-zero | dpkg: error processing dropbear-client (--configure): | 12:26 |
| dev-zero | subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Segmentation fault) | 12:27 |
| dev-zero | this is what I get when I try to install dropbear-client | 12:27 |
| kulve | where did you get it? | 12:27 |
| dev-zero | the package? | 12:27 |
| kulve | yep | 12:27 |
| kulve | and where are you trying to install it? | 12:27 |
| Fatal | bashisms ftw | 12:27 |
| kulve | Fatal: yep.. | 12:28 |
| kulve | both should install perfectly on n800 with app installer | 12:28 |
| kulve | app. mgr. | 12:28 |
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| dev-zero | kulve: well, I'm on N770 | 12:29 |
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| dev-zero | kulve: and the dropbear package is the one from the application catalog (2006se) | 12:32 |
| kulve | dev-zero: sorry, I can't say much for 770. And for n800 I would say only: It should install ok.. | 12:35 |
| dev-zero | kulve: hmm, doesn't really help :) | 12:36 |
| dev-zero | kulve: except you send me a n770->n800 upgrade patch ;-) | 12:36 |
| kulve | I think many people here have dropbear and ssh running on 770 | 12:37 |
| kulve | so there shouldn't be problems.. | 12:37 |
| dev-zero | well, one thing which bothers me is this warning: | 12:39 |
| dev-zero | /bin/sh: /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure: not found | 12:39 |
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| florian | good morning | 12:51 |
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| inz | dev-zero, sorry about the bashism, fixed in -1mh5 | 13:01 |
| dev-zero | inz: hmm? | 13:07 |
| dev-zero | kulve: http://www.mail-archive.com/maemo-users%40maemo.org/msg03903.html | 13:07 |
| dev-zero | kulve: that's the same bug | 13:07 |
| kulve | ok | 13:08 |
| inz | dev-zero, as kulve reported, dropbear-cliet's postinst had a bashism (== instead of =), I fixed that and uploaded new version 0.48.1-1mh5 to repository | 13:09 |
| hrw | inz: 0.49 is released | 13:09 |
| dev-zero | inz: the prerm-scripts have to be fixed as well | 13:14 |
| inz | dev-zero, indeed, thanks | 13:15 |
| inz | hrw, true dat... | 13:15 |
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| dev-zero | inz: where are the config-files for the dropbear-client? | 13:17 |
| maddler | morning all... | 13:19 |
| inz | dev, should it have config files? | 13:21 |
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| shackan | pvanhoof, the n800 default mail client is already based on tinymail, right? | 13:23 |
| pvanhoof | no | 13:23 |
| pvanhoof | but the Nokians have recently opened the Modest source code | 13:23 |
| pvanhoof | that one will most likely become their default e-mail client for the upcoming releases | 13:23 |
| shackan | oh, that's why their current mail client sucks so much :D | 13:24 |
| pvanhoof | yes :) | 13:24 |
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| pvanhoof | we just got push E-mail working with modest | 13:24 |
| pvanhoof | so it's a little party on GimpNET/#tinymail | 13:25 |
| pvanhoof | join the fun :) | 13:25 |
| shackan | wow :D | 13:25 |
| shackan | you deserve the fun, I have no part in it | 13:25 |
| pvanhoof | http://modest.garage.maemo.org/ | 13:25 |
| shackan | :) | 13:25 |
| shackan | yup | 13:25 |
| pvanhoof | oh no, join anyway | 13:25 |
| pvanhoof | :) | 13:25 |
| pvanhoof | right, I was going to make a little movie | 13:26 |
| shackan | I was just reading the new "official" roadmap and I found tinymail among the planned features | 13:26 |
| mgedmin | pvanhoof: one thing I noticed in your series of blog posts was that tinymail does not do threading for performance reasons | 13:26 |
| mgedmin | do you think it would be possible to add optional threading, or would that break the whole design? | 13:26 |
| mgedmin | for small mailboxes the performance loss shouldn't be too big, I hope | 13:27 |
| pvanhoof | mgedmin, it could do it | 13:27 |
| pvanhoof | but right now it can't indeed for memory, not performance, reasons | 13:27 |
| pvanhoof | you would have to change the summary model to be a tree one | 13:28 |
| pvanhoof | and you would have to re-add the references to the summary items | 13:28 |
| pvanhoof | those would consume 30% more memory | 13:28 |
| pvanhoof | but, there are some plans to optionally load them, or not load them | 13:28 |
| pvanhoof | but it's the references of an E-mail who are used to create this tree | 13:28 |
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| Jaffa | Anyone tried modest yet? | 13:46 |
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| spaetz | modest commit list shows last entry in Aug 2006 | 14:07 |
| spaetz | or is it broken? | 14:07 |
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| Jaffa | would appear to be wrong: https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/?root=modest | 14:10 |
| spaetz | ok, thx | 14:12 |
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| elephantum | argh, cant get normal video on n800, I recode video as said on the wiki page and get desyncronized sound with built-in player and with mplayer... | 14:55 |
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| Snelhest | im trying to install gaim on a n800 | 16:23 |
| Snelhest | but it says i need libau1 | 16:23 |
| lardman | is it in the repository.maemo.org repo? | 16:24 |
| Snelhest | hmm | 16:24 |
| Snelhest | http://maemo-hackers.org/wiki/MaemoGaim | 16:25 |
| Snelhest | i found this comment at engadget when googling | 16:26 |
| Snelhest | you will need to also install the protocols for the messengers you want and in my case I had to install maemo mapper first to install the libxau1 files that GAIM is dependent upon. | 16:26 |
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| mgedmin | hm | 16:27 |
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| mgedmin | my n800 knows about libxau0 and libxau6 | 16:27 |
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| Snelhest | mgedmin: hmm ok, any idea which repo you found them in? | 16:28 |
| hrw | where is maemo-mapper for os2007? | 16:28 |
| lardman | link from itt iirc | 16:28 |
| mgedmin | hrw: http://downloads.maemo.org/projects/maemo-mapper | 16:28 |
| lardman | or there of course | 16:28 |
| lardman | ;) | 16:28 |
| mgedmin | wrong guess :/ | 16:28 |
| hrw | lardman: osso-help is missing (according to application manager) | 16:29 |
| mgedmin | https://downloads.maemo.org/product/maemo-mapper is the right url | 16:29 |
| mgedmin | or http:// instead of https:// | 16:30 |
| lardman | hrw: Dunno, sorry | 16:30 |
| Snelhest | ahh | 16:31 |
| Snelhest | found it :) | 16:31 |
| lardman | What have I missed, I have a file: ~/xcas, it's owned by user in group users and is executable. When I do: ./xcas, I get: sh: ./xcas: not found | 16:31 |
| mgedmin | is it a shell script? | 16:32 |
| lardman | no, binary | 16:32 |
| mgedmin | wrong architecture, perhaps | 16:32 |
| hrw | I must admit that finger keyboard is nie | 16:32 |
| hrw | I must admit that finger keyboard is nice | 16:32 |
| lardman | mgedmin: Would I get that message? | 16:32 |
| mgedmin | I'm not really sure | 16:33 |
| Snelhest | hmm | 16:33 |
| Snelhest | i installed gaim + msn plugin | 16:33 |
| mgedmin | usually when you try to execute a file that definitely exists, but get a not found error, the cause is a #!/path/to/interpreter line | 16:33 |
| mgedmin | where the interpreter doesn't exist | 16:34 |
| Snelhest | and started it but it still says im missing the msn plugin | 16:34 |
| mgedmin | maybe if you have some sort of binfmt-misc setup to run non-native apps you'd get the same error | 16:34 |
| mgedmin | or maybe if the app uses a wrong version of the dynamic library loader | 16:34 |
| lardman | yep, it was the wrong version of ld-linux | 16:36 |
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| lardman | thanks | 16:36 |
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| kender | hello | 16:45 |
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| ajturner | hi all - I just updated my dropbear-ssh and some other apps, and now my N800 won't finish booting up - just hangs w/ full blue loading bar | 17:22 |
| ajturner | and holding down pwr button doesn't help | 17:23 |
| ajturner | I have to remove the battery - what do I need to do to fix it? | 17:23 |
| ajturner | reflash? | 17:23 |
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| mgedmin | yup | 17:30 |
| mgedmin | what were those other apps you upgraded? | 17:30 |
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| ajturner | mgedmin - good q, thinking... | 17:34 |
| ajturner | installed maemo-blog, updated dropbear-ssh & server, canola | 17:34 |
| ajturner | nothing 'odd' | 17:34 |
| Jaffa | Both dropbear and Canola insert things into the boot sequence | 17:35 |
| ajturner | right, that's what I figured | 17:35 |
| ajturner | no one has had problems with either? | 17:35 |
| Jaffa | Err, actually not sure that dropbear does by default. | 17:35 |
| ajturner | I believe it does, I haven't had to fire up sshd by hand | 17:35 |
| Jaffa | Fair enough, I just use OpenSSH | 17:36 |
| mgedmin | hm | 17:36 |
| mgedmin | maybe you just need to wait longer? | 17:36 |
| ajturner | is there a way to boot-up into a "ask me what to start"? | 17:36 |
| mgedmin | the jffs garbage collector that runs at boot can take a while I think | 17:36 |
| ajturner | mgedmin - it was ~5mins before, I'll try it for 10+ | 17:37 |
| mgedmin | hm | 17:37 |
| ajturner | right, I would think 5min would be enough | 17:37 |
| mgedmin | I have to admit that I have no idea | 17:39 |
| ajturner | no safe-boot option? | 17:39 |
| mgedmin | ask on the list, someone from nokia might know more | 17:39 |
| mgedmin | there's no safe boot option as far as I know | 17:39 |
| ajturner | was hoping tigert or somewhere here would know | 17:39 |
| X-Fade | ajturner: You can boot from flash with the flasher.. | 17:42 |
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| ajturner | X-Fade, and let me guess, there still isn't a Mac OSX flasher, is there :p | 17:42 |
| X-Fade | ajturner: You need a full rootfs on mmc ofcourse ;) | 17:42 |
| X-Fade | ajturner: I think the 2.0 flasher will also work? | 17:42 |
| ajturner | X-Fade - come again? | 17:42 |
| bergie | ajturner: the commandline flasher at least used to work on OS X | 17:43 |
| X-Fade | Otherwise use a linux livecd or vm image ;) | 17:43 |
| ajturner | well, the N770 flasher worked | 17:43 |
| wasabi_ | Hm. Prez bought a blackjack. | 17:43 |
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| ajturner | arf | 17:49 |
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| X-Fade | cbb: Can you please keep the quick downloads as top message? | 17:58 |
| X-Fade | Arf.. wrong window :) | 17:59 |
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| disq | opensource is the best medicine to depression | 18:14 |
| mgedmin | hm | 18:17 |
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| ajturner | disq - sometimes it causes it though :) | 18:27 |
| ajturner | esp when you try and get a refund on your free software! ;) | 18:27 |
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| disq | :) | 18:36 |
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| maddler | well... it was intended to be "yawn" actually... | 19:11 |
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| mgedmin | you must be tired :) | 19:30 |
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| maddler | mgedmin: damn tired, man... | 20:10 |
| maddler | working *too* much! | 20:10 |
| maddler | time to eat something... | 20:11 |
| maddler | later, folks! | 20:11 |
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| wasabi_ | please somebody save me. I've been on the phone with cingular for 30 minutes trying to get a blackjack working with exchange =( | 21:56 |
| * Juhaz hands out rope | 21:57 | |
| wasabi_ | only maemo can save me | 21:57 |
| keesj | :) | 21:57 |
| s-ndh-c | hehe | 21:57 |
| keesj | wasabi_: are you related to the wasabi project Wasabi - Unified Desktop Search- and Metadata Specification | 21:58 |
| wasabi_ | no | 21:59 |
| wasabi_ | i just like sushi | 21:59 |
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| mgedmin | mm, sushi | 21:59 |
| * mgedmin is hungry | 21:59 | |
| keesj | I just like king kong | 22:00 |
| wasabi_ | yeah anyways im tired of buying these windows mobile things. | 22:00 |
| wasabi_ | ya'll should save me. | 22:00 |
| keesj | where you from? | 22:00 |
| wasabi_ | texas. | 22:00 |
| keesj | sorry I can not save you. you are to far away | 22:01 |
| s-ndh-c | how would we be going to save you? | 22:01 |
| wasabi_ | useful contact/dates/email program =) | 22:02 |
| s-ndh-c | but there is nothing that can be synced with exchange i think | 22:02 |
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| s-ndh-c | i`d like to have something that atleast supports accessing owa | 22:04 |
| s-ndh-c | like evolution does | 22:04 |
| s-ndh-c | is there any cheap umts/bluetooth capable cellphone? need something for internetaccess when iam on the road | 22:05 |
| s-ndh-c | so i could use that to go online with my n770 | 22:05 |
| wasabi_ | I think modest might get there eventually. | 22:10 |
| wasabi_ | it boggles my mind why nokia isn't paying a team to work on it. | 22:10 |
| wasabi_ | it's like, hey... every CEO and marketing person in the world wants one of these with exchange connectivity! | 22:11 |
| Tak | omg the owa support in evolution is terrible | 22:11 |
| wasabi_ | and they're all buying windows mobile! | 22:11 |
| Tak | there are a million reasons why ceos and marketing people will always buy winmobile | 22:11 |
| wasabi_ | Yeah, because they're the best option currently. | 22:11 |
| Tak | no, because they're already locked into 100 MS solutions | 22:12 |
| wasabi_ | wrong. | 22:12 |
| wasabi_ | i hate that attitude. | 22:12 |
| mgedmin | hey if CEOs and marketing people want it, why don't they pay a team? | 22:12 |
| wasabi_ | people buy what works. | 22:12 |
| Tak | that's BS | 22:12 |
| wasabi_ | dude. im the one making the purchases here. | 22:12 |
| Tak | the people who control what gets bought don't have any idea what works | 22:12 |
| wasabi_ | I decide waht my marketing people use. | 22:12 |
| Tak | possibly excepting yourself ;-) | 22:12 |
| wasabi_ | Not in any well run company. | 22:13 |
| s-ndh-c | Tak: yeah but its better than not beeing able to access exchange | 22:13 |
| wasabi_ | The CTO makes those decisions. | 22:13 |
| Tak | but most companies are not well run | 22:13 |
| wasabi_ | Whatever. | 22:13 |
| wasabi_ | Lets argue about something useful | 22:13 |
| Tak | s-ndh-c: if exchange is correctly configured, you can access it with any imap client | 22:13 |
| wasabi_ | except for contacts and calendars. ;) | 22:13 |
| Tak | contacts are standard ldap | 22:13 |
| wasabi_ | not in exchange. | 22:14 |
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| Tak | they are in my exchange... | 22:14 |
| s-ndh-c | they usualy are | 22:14 |
| wasabi_ | ... maybe you AD users. | 22:14 |
| wasabi_ | Contacts in exchange are stored in Exchange. | 22:14 |
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| Tak | I'm doing the calendaring fine with thunderbird+lightning as well | 22:14 |
| s-ndh-c | but how would i access the ldap in the internal net? from the internet? | 22:14 |
| wasabi_ | A VPN. | 22:14 |
| wasabi_ | Same thing you do for exchange. :0 | 22:14 |
| s-ndh-c | we only have cisco vpn and i hate the linux client | 22:15 |
| s-ndh-c | it sucks | 22:15 |
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| wasabi_ | People buy what works. I maintain that. If you can point out another product that gets the job done, cheeper, they'll pick it. But there isn't any. | 22:15 |
| wasabi_ | Or if there is, we don't know about them. | 22:15 |
| wasabi_ | That's the real problem. | 22:16 |
| keesj | wasabi_: try to look at the bright side of things , use gmail , screw exchange. use rss | 22:16 |
| wasabi_ | not exactly the same problem space. | 22:16 |
| wasabi_ | and doesn't exactly solve the problems exchange does | 22:16 |
| s-ndh-c | exchange is one of the ms products i realy like | 22:17 |
| keesj | wasabi_: I think the maemo series is really a pioneer in the internet development. It is so far way from the exchange problems you are refering to | 22:17 |
| bipolar | If you're looking for a linux groupware server, check out citadel. LJ has a nice writeup on it here: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9357 | 22:17 |
| wasabi_ | keesj: And that disapoints me greatly. Because it is *so close* to solving the problems. | 22:18 |
| bipolar | I use it here at work | 22:18 |
| wasabi_ | And in the meantime making a lot of money for N. | 22:18 |
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| keesj | Now I am really kinda used to it,. it feels like you are telling me that you can not connect the fax machine or the modem to your n800 | 22:18 |
| Veggen | Someone recently praised scalix (www.scalix.com) | 22:18 |
| wasabi_ | keesj: So, what do you use as a similar solution for a large company? | 22:19 |
| bipolar | There is an outlook connector for citadel in closed beta right now. in the meantime, Citadel speaks Groupdav, Kolab1, and Webcal. | 22:19 |
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| keesj | I really think the problem is not maemo or n but exchange and such "standards" | 22:19 |
| wasabi_ | I don't even care about outlook. The only reason we use it is again, there's no similar competitor. | 22:19 |
| wasabi_ | keesj: There are no clients which work properly with "standards" either. | 22:20 |
| wasabi_ | If there was, I'd write an Exchange->Standards bridge. | 22:20 |
| keesj | of course you can make a lot of money , but I don't really think this is what the maemo series is really about | 22:20 |
| bipolar | wasabi_: check out Citadel. It's really nice. Works great with Kontact, or Evolution with the Groupdav plugin. | 22:20 |
| wasabi_ | The problems I'm plagued with with these devices frusterates me everytime I use them. I'd love to buy boxes of N800's instead. | 22:20 |
| wasabi_ | and I do buy boxes of these things. | 22:21 |
| keesj | you will remain frustrated untill you free yourself | 22:21 |
| wasabi_ | the openness of the solution is moot if nobody can get jobs done with it.l | 22:22 |
| keesj | just let gmail pop your mail | 22:22 |
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| wasabi_ | i'm not talking about "my mail" | 22:23 |
| wasabi_ | I'm talking about 400 people's mail. | 22:23 |
| keesj | I use dovecot as mail server where i gatter different mails. and google calendar just sends me sms messages where ever I have a meeting | 22:23 |
| Tak | exchange and outlook are the only solutions to each other because each one is designed to create a problem only solvable by the other | 22:23 |
| wasabi_ | Tak: Pssh. Having 400 desktops across a large distributed organization is not an invented problem. | 22:24 |
| wasabi_ | Along with getting the same data to mobile devices. | 22:24 |
| Tak | what does exchange have to do with having 400 desktops? | 22:24 |
| wasabi_ | Tak: The protocol between Exchange and Outlook is not magic. It's very easy to write a client for. evolution-exchange for instance. | 22:24 |
| wasabi_ | Also, Exchange can have adapters for whatever standard protocols you want. | 22:24 |
| Tak | evolution-exchange is crap | 22:24 |
| wasabi_ | crap is fixable. | 22:25 |
| wasabi_ | It's buggy. | 22:25 |
| wasabi_ | Not because of some magic MS played... but because the software is buggy. | 22:25 |
| keesj | wasabi_: oke, forger it. it is not my problem and I am not frustrated. times change and you can comme up with better solutions | 22:25 |
| wasabi_ | heh. | 22:25 |
| s-ndh-c | http://www.zarafaserver.de/ << that looks nice | 22:25 |
| keesj | aks pvanhoof about what mail server he uses for mail "push" | 22:25 |
| wasabi_ | He uses cyrus. | 22:25 |
| bipolar | Citadel is GPL to boot, in case anyone's listning :p | 22:25 |
| pvanhoof | cyrus with idled | 22:26 |
| pvanhoof | imap2.tinymail.org, u:tnytest p:tnytest | 22:26 |
| keesj | of to the "lost" series | 22:26 |
| wasabi_ | I'd use IMAP in a second. I'd love to use it. | 22:26 |
| wasabi_ | But it only solves part of the problem. Still no clients. =) | 22:26 |
| bipolar | wasabi_: what kind of clients are you talking about? | 22:27 |
| wasabi_ | Off to solve error 0x80072ee7 | 22:27 |
| wasabi_ | =( | 22:27 |
| Tak | there are no imap clients? | 22:27 |
| bipolar | what platform doesn't have Imap clients? | 22:27 |
| wasabi_ | None that come very close to offering all the required features. | 22:27 |
| wasabi_ | Yet. =) | 22:28 |
| wasabi_ | Oh, Mulberry does. | 22:28 |
| wasabi_ | Except for the feature of being usable by humans. | 22:28 |
| bipolar | wasabi_: I'm curious, what kind of features do you mean? | 22:28 |
| wasabi_ | bipolar: email push, shared folders, acls, delegation. | 22:28 |
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| bipolar | wasabi_: email push for handhelds? | 22:28 |
| wasabi_ | uh yes. | 22:29 |
| wasabi_ | All the new windows mobile stuff does it. | 22:29 |
| wasabi_ | integration with server side filters. | 22:29 |
| bipolar | wasabi_: it's being worked on for citadel using the Funimbol syncml server. | 22:29 |
| bipolar | but it's not there quite yet. | 22:29 |
| wasabi_ | I only ... complain ... here because I know there are people present who can potentially light fires under people's butts to accept my money. :0 | 22:32 |
| s-ndh-c | hehe | 22:34 |
| bipolar | wasabi_: I'll take your money... what do you want again? | 22:36 |
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| derf | I killed it. | 22:55 |
| derf | Got my new N800 stuck in a reboot cycle, flashed it, and it's still stuck. | 22:55 |
| derf | (though it makes much less progress booting noew before rebooting). | 22:55 |
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| pcfe | derf: got an SD card in? if yes remove it | 23:00 |
| maddler | try removing SD and reflashing | 23:01 |
| maddler | if it start boot process it does not sound like an hardware problem to me | 23:02 |
| maddler | imho | 23:02 |
| derf | No, it was working great. | 23:03 |
| derf | But I've only had it for about 16 hours. | 23:03 |
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| bstock | did it ever boot properly? | 23:04 |
| derf | Yes. | 23:04 |
| derf | Repeatedly. | 23:04 |
| derf | I'm seeing how it goes with both SD cards removed. | 23:04 |
| bstock | what'd you do last before it was stuck? reflash? | 23:05 |
| derf | No, same thing. | 23:05 |
| derf | bstock: No, I was installing bash. | 23:05 |
| maddler | try reflashing again... | 23:05 |
| derf | Perhaps changing root's shell was a bad idea. | 23:05 |
| Tak | heh | 23:05 |
| bstock | yeah a reflash should have fixed it | 23:05 |
| derf | So I reflashed without the SD cards, and that did not fix it. | 23:05 |
| maddler | you did after flashng? | 23:06 |
| derf | I did what? | 23:06 |
| maddler | change root's shell | 23:06 |
| derf | No... I haven't been able to boot it successfully since then. | 23:07 |
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| maddler | btw, in | 23:07 |
| derf | That was what I did before it got stuck in the infinite reboot loop. | 23:07 |
| derf | Well, immediately before, it'd been a while since I had rebooted. | 23:07 |
| derf | Maybe something else did it. | 23:07 |
| maddler | ok, try reflash (I'd say) | 23:07 |
| Tak | so you changed root's shell before or after you reflashed? | 23:07 |
| derf | Tak: Before. | 23:07 |
| derf | I did not reflash until it got borked. | 23:07 |
| Tak | so reflashing *should* have fixed if that was the problem | 23:08 |
| derf | Right. But it did not. | 23:08 |
| s-ndh-c | maybe the flash is damaged or something? | 23:08 |
| derf | You mean the RAM in the unit? | 23:09 |
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| derf | maddler: BTW., fix your vim package. | 23:10 |
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| derf | E484: Can't open file /home/maddler/vim_sbox//share/vim/... | 23:11 |
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| hrw | can user change which application gets beamed VCard in IT2007? I would like to get vcard into gpe-contacts or OH Contacts instead of default maemo one | 23:13 |
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| gnuite | Is the word-completion dictionary available for 3rd party software access? (read-only) | 23:14 |
| Tak | I thought all the contacts apps used the same db? | 23:14 |
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| hrw | maybe OH one share with maemo but rather not gpe one | 23:16 |
| maddler | gpe has its own sqlite dbs | 23:18 |
| derf | Damn, there's 5 pages of this thread of people with this problem. | 23:18 |
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| hrw | hm. both maemo and OH contact apps are simple | 23:20 |
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| derf | Okay, I think I got it. | 23:22 |
| derf | The secret was: Flash, enable R&D mode, let it reboot twice, then power it on. | 23:22 |
| derf | (after the second reboot it powered itself off for some reason). | 23:22 |
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| maddler | derf: there is another (better) package already in repository... | 23:38 |
| maddler | vim was one of my first experiments :) | 23:38 |
| maddler | right after got my 770... | 23:39 |
| hrw | maddler: 'so called repository' | 23:39 |
| maddler | hrw... ? | 23:39 |
| hrw | maddler: official list of 'bora' repos on maemo.org give quite small list of applications. especially when I can compare it to OpenZaurus or Angstrom repositories | 23:40 |
| derf | maddler: Which repository? | 23:40 |
| maddler | there is a post on my MaemoPeople blog... whith my "extended" sources.list | 23:41 |
| maddler | get that one... | 23:41 |
| maddler | wait... | 23:41 |
| maddler | http://www.maemopeople.org/htsrv/trackback.php/52 | 23:43 |
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