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| maddler | beer anyone? :) | 00:04 |
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| maddler | damn... gotta remember to put more beer in the cooler.. | 00:05 |
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| b0unc3 | maddler: now I quit to take one :-) | 00:10 |
| maddler | b0unc3: :) | 00:10 |
| maddler | b0unc3: oh... I had my scooter back! :D | 00:10 |
| maddler | found it yesterday morning... | 00:10 |
| maddler | near to the place were it was stolen... | 00:10 |
| maddler | I guess they wern't even able to start it... | 00:11 |
| maddler | just broke the lock... | 00:11 |
| maddler | not a big damage... | 00:11 |
| maddler | so... CHEERS! :D | 00:11 |
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| * b0unc3 thinks that maddler has stolen a scooter today :) | 00:13 | |
| maddler | hahahaha... | 00:13 |
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| maddler | well... actually don't even the police believed that I was able to have it back so fast! :D | 00:14 |
| derf | Hmm, maybe it was editing the hostname it did not like. | 00:14 |
| maddler | the p'liceman said "you reported the theft yesterday at 10pm, and you call us back at 9am next day..." | 00:14 |
| derf | Because I did it again. | 00:15 |
| maddler | derf: well... at least you know how to resume it now :) | 00:15 |
| derf | Yeah. | 00:15 |
| maddler | b0unc3: btw... this is 2nd time they stole my scooter... and 2nd time I find it... :) | 00:15 |
| maddler | 1st time I didn't had time to report the theft... :) | 00:16 |
| maddler | hooray! | 00:16 |
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| b0unc3 | maddler: you are a very lucky person :) | 00:17 |
| Tak | maddler: you must leave the gas tank nearly empty ;-) | 00:17 |
| maddler | b0unc3: hehehe... sounds so... | 00:18 |
| maddler | :) | 00:18 |
| maddler | Tak: hehehe... it was almost full, instead... :D | 00:18 |
| b0unc3 | maddler: in which zone of Rome you stay ? | 00:21 |
| shackan | oh dear, that thief has been really unprofessional :P | 00:21 |
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| maddler | shackan: hehehehe... an idiot I'd say! :D | 00:22 |
| maddler | booiiing: close piazza S. Giovanni | 00:22 |
| maddler | center... | 00:23 |
| maddler | b0unc3: listening to gialappa's :D | 00:23 |
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| b0unc3 | ok, now is time to drink. | 00:31 |
| Sulis | keesj: what program did you actually use to send audio to your n800 with esd? | 00:31 |
| b0unc3 | goodbye | 00:31 |
| maddler | b0unc3: :) | 00:31 |
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| derf | Well, something I'm doing keeps bricking it. | 00:56 |
| derf | It isn't setting the hostname. | 00:56 |
| derf | I suspect it's somewith with bash. | 00:57 |
| derf | Maybe I can't even change user's shell... which would suck. | 00:57 |
| Tak | I suspect you can't | 00:58 |
| derf | Well, what's the point, then? | 00:58 |
| Tak | did you recover from the infiniboot loop? | 00:58 |
| derf | Yes. | 00:58 |
| derf | And then re-bricked it two more times. | 00:58 |
| Tak | nice | 00:58 |
| maddler | derf: changing the shell isn't a good move... | 00:59 |
| maddler | I ended up defining a new user user ;) | 00:59 |
| derf | What do you mean? | 01:00 |
| maddler | since I prefer using bash as shell... and since it wasn't possible to change users's and root's shell... | 01:00 |
| maddler | I added a new user and changed shell for that user only... | 01:00 |
| derf | Yeah, but then that isn't the user everything runs as. | 01:02 |
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| ajturner | derf - what's going one with you? | 01:07 |
| maddler | derf: well... actually... changing user's shell... you simply won't have anything to run... ;) | 01:07 |
| ajturner | I bricked mine earlier today just from updating an app | 01:08 |
| ajturner | and I'm waiting to see others run into the same thing | 01:08 |
| Tak | updating which app? | 01:08 |
| ajturner | Tak - not clear if it was due to dropbear-ssh or canola | 01:09 |
| ajturner | updated both at the same time, then rebooted b/c bt wasn't working | 01:09 |
| Tak | I just updated canola on my 770 with no adverse effects | 01:09 |
| ajturner | now just loads up (blue bar) and then stops | 01:09 |
| ajturner | hangs | 01:09 |
| ajturner | N800 | 01:09 |
| * Tak nods | 01:09 | |
| maddler | oh... is there a way to disable "splash"? | 01:11 |
| maddler | I was wandering today... | 01:11 |
| derf | The hands image? | 01:12 |
| maddler | no... the blue bar... and show boot messages instead... | 01:12 |
| maddler | since we can't have a console... ;) | 01:12 |
| Tak | r&d mode doesn't give you that? | 01:13 |
| derf | Yeah. | 01:13 |
| maddler | tak... never found anything about that... | 01:13 |
| maddler | any clue? | 01:13 |
| Tak | no, sorry | 01:13 |
| maddler | :) | 01:13 |
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| Tak | it's just that that's the *first* thing I would expect out of something called "R&D Mode" | 01:14 |
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| maddler | Tak: true... but nothing... | 01:15 |
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| maddler | :D | 01:22 |
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| disq | new sardine-devel list, sweet | 01:30 |
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| maddler | disq: hehehe... yep... a new list to read... :D | 01:45 |
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| |tbb| | hi all | 02:10 |
| |tbb| | anyone have tried whitstork on the Nxxx before? | 02:10 |
| |tbb| | im have download a dictionary from http://xdxf.revdanica.com/down/ | 02:11 |
| |tbb| | but after unpack that file and copy it to the mmc1, it wont load | 02:11 |
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| |tbb| | it says, there is no dictionary available , confus | 02:12 |
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| maddler | time to hit the bed! | 02:28 |
| disq | night | 02:29 |
| |tbb| | gn8 | 02:29 |
| * |tbb| wishes maddler some spare time | 02:29 | |
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| neostrider | hello tablet people | 02:58 |
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| Tak | howdy neostrider | 03:11 |
| neostrider | hey tak! | 03:11 |
| neostrider | whats new?!] | 03:11 |
| Tak | not much - considering flashing the 2007on770 image | 03:12 |
| neostrider | maybe be a good thing | 03:12 |
| neostrider | but consider this: | 03:12 |
| neostrider | whats your use of the 770? | 03:13 |
| neostrider | develop-debug or plain-user? | 03:13 |
| Tak | net radio, chat, games | 03:13 |
| Tak | both | 03:13 |
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| neostrider | i see | 03:20 |
| neostrider | but whats your target? | 03:20 |
| neostrider | (sorry about the delay...i was debugging) | 03:20 |
| Tak | target as in...? | 03:21 |
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| neostrider | users of your software | 03:26 |
| neostrider | mine is IT2006 users | 03:26 |
| neostrider | so im staying with my mistral SDK (and scirroco running on the device...im lazy hehe) | 03:26 |
| Tak | ah - for me it's 2006 and 2007 | 03:26 |
| Tak | I still use the mistral sdk for 2006 though | 03:27 |
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| Unique311 | alot of users in here | 03:29 |
| Unique311 | devs or users.. | 03:30 |
| neostrider | me dev | 03:30 |
| neostrider | =-P | 03:30 |
| neostrider | tak ...im targeting the 770 mostly | 03:30 |
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| Unique311 | cool | 03:31 |
| neostrider | as the n800 is fast enough to run normal 3D | 03:31 |
| Unique311 | me user | 03:31 |
| neostrider | and my engine is trying to extract every processing juice from the 770 ;-) | 03:31 |
| Unique311 | i just brought a n800 | 03:31 |
| neostrider | unique...tell me what software you want | 03:31 |
| Unique311 | loving it | 03:31 |
| neostrider | maybe we can do it! | 03:31 |
| Unique311 | vspainter | 03:32 |
| neostrider | (thats the power of the open source comunity) | 03:32 |
| neostrider | (we listen to the user) | 03:32 |
| Unique311 | its a pcket pc app | 03:32 |
| neostrider | what app? | 03:32 |
| Unique311 | vspainter is not open source | 03:33 |
| BrianRice | he seems to mean http://vspainter.virtualspaghetti.com/ | 03:33 |
| Unique311 | ya | 03:33 |
| neostrider | let me check it out | 03:33 |
| Unique311 | cool | 03:33 |
| neostrider | wasn't gimp ported to maemo? | 03:33 |
| Unique311 | tuxpaint is cool..but not up to par | 03:34 |
| neostrider | i did a little paint app, but tuxpaint is far superior to it =-p | 03:34 |
| Unique311 | gimp will do | 03:34 |
| neostrider | someone was porting it | 03:34 |
| neostrider | i remember that | 03:34 |
| Unique311 | googleing it now | 03:34 |
| Unique311 | googleing...thhats a word right | 03:35 |
| neostrider | "the gimp maemo" | 03:35 |
| neostrider | this may show some results | 03:35 |
| Unique311 | thanks | 03:36 |
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| jacques | whee. | 03:44 |
| neostrider | whats happening? | 03:44 |
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| Unique311 | hmmm gimp for maemo on hold... | 03:44 |
| neostrider | but started? | 03:45 |
| neostrider | if the source of the started project is available, I can build it to you | 03:45 |
| Unique311 | the porting of the project is on hold | 03:45 |
| neostrider | i guess that maemo does run pure GTK apps | 03:47 |
| neostrider | i will try... | 03:47 |
| Unique311 | still looking at links | 03:48 |
| neostrider | good lord...gimp source code subversion repository is a mess | 03:48 |
| neostrider | (just like mine in sourceforge) | 03:50 |
| Unique311 | u found it? | 03:52 |
| neostrider | yes | 03:53 |
| neostrider | now I must remember who to download it heheh | 03:53 |
| neostrider | i will try a older version | 03:53 |
| neostrider | as it use GTK 1.2 | 03:54 |
| neostrider | (meanwhile, starting SDK) | 03:55 |
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| neostrider | does anyone knows who to checkout GIMP SVN? | 03:58 |
| neostrider | Unique311 , checkout = obtain the souce in a automated way | 03:58 |
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| Unique311 | ?? | 03:59 |
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| Unique311 | i don't understand..im an artist.. | 03:59 |
| Unique311 | tis my excuse....and a gadget lover | 04:00 |
| nomis | Um, Gimp for Maemo would be a very interesting project, but probably would result in reinventing the user interface. | 04:00 |
| Unique311 | ok | 04:00 |
| Unique311 | i have vspainter on my ppc... | 04:01 |
| Unique311 | don't worry about it...pretty sure thats why its on hold anyways.. | 04:01 |
| Unique311 | could wait for improvement on the sketch app | 04:03 |
| nomis | neostrider: svn co http://svn.gnome.org/svn/gimp/trunk gimp | 04:03 |
| neostrider | nomis , and how about gimp 1.0? | 04:04 |
| nomis | neostrider: why would you want that? | 04:04 |
| neostrider | lighter =-D | 04:04 |
| nomis | (I don't know, but it should be in there) | 04:04 |
| nomis | neostrider: well, it requires a totally different GTK+ which might make it heavier on the n800... | 04:05 |
| neostrider | Unique311 , downloading the source | 04:05 |
| nomis | neostrider: but the old tarballs are still at the ftp site. | 04:05 |
| neostrider | nomis , where?!?!?! | 04:05 |
| neostrider | it would be great | 04:05 |
| nomis | neostrider: ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v1.0/ | 04:05 |
| nomis | neostrider: if you want something *really* tiny, go for ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/historical/gimp-0.54.1.fixed.tar.gz | 04:07 |
| nomis | has no layers though. | 04:07 |
| nomis | but compiles in a snap. | 04:08 |
| neostrider | what GTK does hildon uses? | 04:08 |
| Unique311 | vspainter has no layers also.. | 04:08 |
| neostrider | so, no hitch =-P | 04:08 |
| Unique311 | but i do amazing work on it | 04:08 |
| neostrider | extracting | 04:09 |
| Unique311 | www.unique11210.googlepages.com/monthly0.html | 04:10 |
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| Unique311 | unique11210.googlepages.com/monthly0.html | 04:12 |
| Unique311 | without the www | 04:12 |
| Unique311 | thats the kind of work i put out on vspainter, mind you its on my sprint ppc6700 | 04:13 |
| neostrider | strange...it doesnt compile... | 04:14 |
| neostrider | now its compiling =-D | 04:15 |
| neostrider | great....motif =-/ | 04:15 |
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| neostrider | i will try 1.0 | 04:17 |
| neostrider | maybe 1.0 didnt depend on motif | 04:17 |
| nomis | neostrider: it didn't. It came with its own GTK IIRC. | 04:18 |
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| neostrider | ./configure complained about motif | 04:18 |
| nomis | neostrider: for gimp 1.0?? | 04:18 |
| neostrider | oh | 04:18 |
| neostrider | no | 04:18 |
| neostrider | 0.54 | 04:19 |
| nomis | 0.54 requires motif indeed. | 04:19 |
| neostrider | im downloading 1.0 now | 04:19 |
| neostrider | what IIRC stands for? | 04:19 |
| nomis | 0.60 should no longer depend on it, but ship with the very first stages of GTK+. | 04:19 |
| nomis | neostrider: If I Recall Correctly. | 04:19 |
| neostrider | hahahhaha....great | 04:19 |
| nomis | neostrider: but if you install lesstif2-dev it should compile. | 04:20 |
| nomis | (0.54) | 04:20 |
| neostrider | i just want to do some quick hack for Unique311 | 04:20 |
| neostrider | maybe someone, after seeing this inicial effort will try to resume the project | 04:21 |
| nomis | neostrider: well, I sincerely doubt that using ancient gimp versions will help at all in bringing Gimp to the N800... | 04:21 |
| neostrider | I already have two projects in the queue | 04:21 |
| Unique311 | apreciate it very much | 04:22 |
| neostrider | nomis , I just have a 770. gimp 2 would be too much for it | 04:22 |
| nomis | neostrider: I am not sure if you understand the implications of using ancient gimp versions. | 04:22 |
| nomis | - you need old libraries on the 770 | 04:23 |
| nomis | - those old libraries don't understand the modern window management standards | 04:23 |
| nomis | - they will bloat up the package | 04:23 |
| neostrider | yeah...you are right =/ | 04:23 |
| nomis | - they have no clue about font stuff etc. | 04:24 |
| neostrider | well...lets compile and see what happens | 04:24 |
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| neostrider | I can always re-install my ubuntu and spend a week on a gigantic apt on the worst case | 04:25 |
| neostrider | i doesnt detect GTK | 04:25 |
| neostrider | ok...now im convinced =-P | 04:25 |
| nomis | neostrider: (plus, if you look closely gimp might not be that big as you think) | 04:25 |
| neostrider | sorry Unique311 | 04:25 |
| nomis | neostrider: what does not detect GTK? | 04:25 |
| neostrider | ./configure from 1.0 | 04:26 |
| neostrider | nomis, are you saying that I should try lastest gimp? | 04:26 |
| nomis | neostrider: well, as I said earlier, IIRC Gimp 1.0 shipped its own version of GTK. | 04:26 |
| Unique311 | no worries., | 04:26 |
| chibiAcyd | i run gimp off a thumb drive | 04:26 |
| nomis | neostrider: you know that "GTK" stands for "GIMP ToolKit"? :) | 04:26 |
| neostrider | yeah...but on what CPU? with how many gigas of RAM? | 04:26 |
| neostrider | chibiAcyd , 770 and 800 are a bit different form our systems | 04:27 |
| neostrider | nomis , of course =-D | 04:27 |
| chibiAcyd | on a 500mhz with 256mb of ram | 04:27 |
| nomis | neostrider: just try it. My guess is, that there are some float operations that will tear the performance down, but if you use reasonably small images it should work. Apart from window management issues with multiple windows. | 04:27 |
| neostrider | my 770 is not so powerful ;-) | 04:27 |
| nomis | neostrider: I don't know exactly when they seperated GTK from the GIMP, my guess would be that this happened somewhen around Gimp 1.2. | 04:28 |
| chibiAcyd | i use my 500 as my testbed, specs are about the same once scratchbox is running | 04:28 |
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| neostrider | chibi , I dont have a 800 =-d | 04:29 |
| chibiAcyd | i was referring to the 770 | 04:29 |
| neostrider | checkin out the reppo | 04:29 |
| chibiAcyd | i haven't done any dev for the n800 yet | 04:29 |
| neostrider | chibi... im confused now | 04:30 |
| nomis | neostrider: getting rid of plugins also might help to strip gimp down. | 04:30 |
| neostrider | isnt ARM926 120Mhz? | 04:30 |
| neostrider | maybe... | 04:30 |
| neostrider | its just a quick hack | 04:30 |
| neostrider | i seriouly doubt that i will be able to generate a package | 04:30 |
| neostrider | but it doesnt hurt to try | 04:31 |
| chibiAcyd | check the gimp portable binaries, i believe they are streamlined and contain gtk | 04:31 |
| * nomis heads for the bed instead. | 04:31 | |
| nomis | neostrider: have fun :) | 04:31 |
| nomis | chibiAcyd: including gtk+ on the 770/N800 is pointless, they already have a more-or-less-recent version of it included. | 04:32 |
| neostrider | nomis , 'good night | 04:32 |
| chibiAcyd | ahh | 04:32 |
| neostrider | chibiAcyd, indeed sometimes Maemo-games-startup gets a very GTK look | 04:33 |
| neostrider | (i love that look, indeed) | 04:33 |
| chibiAcyd | i haven't used that in quite some time. my 770 has been used for site evaluations and such for about the past 6 months | 04:35 |
| neostrider | mine for debugging SDL | 04:36 |
| neostrider | i just installed for testing my enviroment | 04:36 |
| neostrider | (generated the package for doom here) | 04:36 |
| neostrider | sometimes listening some music or browsing internet | 04:37 |
| neostrider | but I more a developer than a user | 04:37 |
| chibiAcyd | i've also been using it for gaim and irc since my laptop died on me | 04:37 |
| neostrider | if my laptop dies, im fryed hehehe | 04:38 |
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| Unique311 | u have a desktop? | 04:39 |
| neostrider | no | 04:39 |
| neostrider | my laptop is my sole computer | 04:39 |
| neostrider | (space on the desk means everything to me) | 04:39 |
| Unique311 | i have a desktop, and 3 notebooks... | 04:40 |
| Unique311 | a collector | 04:40 |
| neostrider | here in brazil,everything is so expensive that the diference doesnt matter anymore | 04:40 |
| Unique311 | k | 04:40 |
| neostrider | Unique311 , what models do you have? | 04:40 |
| Unique311 | city of gods | 04:40 |
| Unique311 | fujitsu e8020d | 04:41 |
| Unique311 | thinkpad t41p | 04:41 |
| Unique311 | compaq 2100us | 04:41 |
| Unique311 | desktop is a amd athlon 3700+ | 04:42 |
| Unique311 | not sure collecing dust in the living room | 04:42 |
| neostrider | mine is a dell latitude 120L | 04:43 |
| neostrider | (i guess outside Brazil is does have other name) | 04:43 |
| neostrider | where do you live? | 04:43 |
| neostrider | (maybe Im a collector too. I have a broken compaq contura 4/25c and a working Casio Cassiopeia A-11) | 04:43 |
| Unique311 | new york city | 04:43 |
| neostrider | nice | 04:44 |
| Unique311 | brooklyn part of it | 04:44 |
| Unique311 | not really | 04:44 |
| neostrider | spiderman's neighbour heheheh | 04:44 |
| Unique311 | yeah | 04:44 |
| Unique311 | brb, gotta restart my device...application manager is stuck on installing zsh | 04:45 |
| neostrider | ok | 04:45 |
| neostrider | are you on the 800 itself? | 04:46 |
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| chibiAcyd | i'm on the n800 as we speak | 04:46 |
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| Unique311 | back | 04:47 |
| neostrider | im not so fast with it hehehe | 04:47 |
| Unique311 | ? | 04:47 |
| neostrider | i dont like the recognition system | 04:47 |
| neostrider | so I use screen keyboard | 04:47 |
| neostrider | so, for IM , its not for me | 04:47 |
| chibiAcyd | i use the thumbboard | 04:48 |
| neostrider | nooooo...thumb marks on screen! | 04:48 |
| neostrider | that kind of kept me away from canola | 04:48 |
| Unique311 | i use the screen keyboard | 04:48 |
| neostrider | me too | 04:48 |
| chibiAcyd | i have a ton of screen wipes, and i only notice finger prints when the screen is asleep | 04:49 |
| Unique311 | zsh install froze app manager | 04:49 |
| neostrider | i keep the device as new as i can | 04:50 |
| neostrider | Unique311 , you are an artist! why would you want zsh? =-P | 04:50 |
| chibiAcyd | i already voided my warraunty | 04:50 |
| neostrider | why chibi? | 04:50 |
| chibiAcyd | because thats what i do | 04:51 |
| Unique311 | played around with linux for a while... | 04:51 |
| Unique311 | fan of terminal | 04:51 |
| chibiAcyd | the first thing any hacker does when they get something is take it apart | 04:51 |
| neostrider | not me | 04:51 |
| Unique311 | i know some basic comands | 04:51 |
| neostrider | well chibi. im a different type of hacker | 04:51 |
| neostrider | Unique311 , try osso-xterminal | 04:52 |
| Unique311 | have it installed | 04:52 |
| neostrider | it does what you want (i use it a lot) | 04:52 |
| chibiAcyd | xterm was the first thing i installed | 04:52 |
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| neostrider | chibi, the first thing i did when I powered it on what to point the browser to file:/// hehe | 04:53 |
| neostrider | on it2005 it had /cdrom and /floppy indeed | 04:53 |
| chibiAcyd | lol | 04:53 |
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| neostrider | (here I didnt had wireless at the time. well. i still dont have. Just a usb dongle to connect to my computer) | 04:53 |
| neostrider | so everything relied on the usb connectivity | 04:54 |
| chibiAcyd | ouch | 04:54 |
| neostrider | the problem is that I get lazy to enable the dongle | 04:55 |
| neostrider | it only works on windows | 04:55 |
| Unique311 | just learned something | 04:55 |
| Unique311 | thanks neo | 04:55 |
| Unique311 | file:/// | 04:55 |
| neostrider | http://corporatedrones.wordpress.com/2007/02/12/d-link-dwl-g122-rev-c-and-ubuntu-gnulinux/ | 04:55 |
| neostrider | hahahhaha | 04:55 |
| Unique311 | good stuf | 04:55 |
| neostrider | the truth has just unfolded in front of you =-P | 04:56 |
| neostrider | (im THAT kind of hacker heheh) | 04:56 |
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| Unique311 | need food in my belly | 04:57 |
| Unique311 | brb | 04:57 |
| chibiAcyd | i wear many hats :) | 04:57 |
| neostrider | chibi? hats? sorry...im not such a old fox | 04:58 |
| neostrider | what that mean? | 04:58 |
| chibiAcyd | jack of all trades | 04:59 |
| chibiAcyd | and i'm only 24, i'm not so old myself | 04:59 |
| neostrider | yeah...but you are a veteran hacker, right? | 05:00 |
| neostrider | (Im 22. since 1998 watching linux from a distance. since 2003 with the penguin) | 05:00 |
| chibiAcyd | been at it since i can remember | 05:00 |
| neostrider | but in DOS I was quite a little hacker | 05:01 |
| neostrider | did some nice stuff for QBasic too ;-) | 05:01 |
| chibiAcyd | i have a computer in my room several museams want to take off my hands lol | 05:02 |
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| neostrider | my older is a 486 laptop | 05:02 |
| neostrider | but I had a 8088 | 05:02 |
| neostrider | this were my first | 05:02 |
| neostrider | circa 1994 | 05:02 |
| neostrider | with this, I learned to enjoy every megabyte I have now hehehe | 05:03 |
| chibiAcyd | the one ive got is a 286 made under a limited contract for the government in 1978. | 05:03 |
| chibiAcyd | it has the first phoenix bios on it | 05:04 |
| neostrider | wow! | 05:04 |
| neostrider | what screen? | 05:05 |
| neostrider | CGA? EGA? HERCULES? | 05:05 |
| chibiAcyd | i enjoy having a piece of history running in my room | 05:05 |
| chibiAcyd | ega | 05:05 |
| chibiAcyd | the vid card is as big as my keyboard | 05:06 |
| neostrider | hahaha | 05:06 |
| neostrider | I have a VGA like this | 05:06 |
| neostrider | my 8088 was 4 colour CGA | 05:06 |
| neostrider | the cvs checkout is stuck... | 05:06 |
| neostrider | svn: Write-lock stolen in 'gimp' | 05:07 |
| chibiAcyd | i've ony got a 3 position monochrome zenith monitor for mine. i can have green, amber, or b/w | 05:07 |
| neostrider | wow | 05:08 |
| neostrider | mine had green and 4 colour | 05:08 |
| chibiAcyd | doesn't bother me any, i just run unix on it | 05:09 |
| neostrider | yeah | 05:10 |
| neostrider | unix rocks | 05:10 |
| chibiAcyd | i wonder if anyone from the maemo community is going to defcon | 05:10 |
| neostrider | well..where the hell is the configure script on the gimp source? | 05:10 |
| neostrider | defcon? | 05:10 |
| chibiAcyd | defcon, giant hacker con in vegas every year | 05:11 |
| chibiAcyd | defcon.org i believe | 05:11 |
| neostrider | wow | 05:12 |
| neostrider | i dont have money for it =-P | 05:12 |
| neostrider | sorry about it,Unique311, but im giving up | 05:12 |
| neostrider | this source is very confusing | 05:13 |
| neostrider | and im very tired | 05:16 |
| neostrider | im leaving ,friends | 05:17 |
| neostrider | good night | 05:17 |
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| MoRpHeUz | chibiAcyd: I'm thinking about going to defcon.. | 05:23 |
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| chibiAcyd | i'm definately going, i haven't been in about 3 years | 05:24 |
| MoRpHeUz | I went last year... | 05:26 |
| MoRpHeUz | it's a little bit expensive for me to go..so I'm not sure about going again...but I want to =D | 05:26 |
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| hefner | scratchbox is so ghetto. | 06:27 |
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| |mk8| | Hi to all ... | 08:02 |
| *** |mk8| is now known as mk8 | 08:02 | |
| mk8 | A little question ... this morning my N800 not coming up ... yestarday it was power off normally, an now ... it simple show me the nokia logo. | 08:04 |
| mk8 | Can anyone help me? | 08:04 |
| mk8 | The system is the original one ... | 08:04 |
| mk8 | I have no important data on it so ... i can do a full reset but I not know how to do ... :( | 08:05 |
| Streg | I had similar problems - had to take to the service :( You have tried removing the battery for a while, right? | 08:12 |
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| mk8 | I try only for a little bit ... 1 minute ... ando nothing happen ... :( | 08:14 |
| mk8 | I can make another test .... for more time ... | 08:15 |
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| mk8 | Streg: .... now I reinsert the battery in my nokia ... and nothing is changed ... :( | 08:35 |
| derf | mk8: Does it keep rebooting? | 08:36 |
| mk8 | you known a method to do a full reset of the device ... | 08:36 |
| mk8 | The nokia logo apper .... and the bottom bar scroll to the end ... but after the device still in this state .... I can push the button to poweroff but the device not responding ... :( | 08:37 |
| derf | http://www.maemo.org/maemowiki/HOWTO_FlashLatestNokiaImageWithLinux | 08:38 |
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| mk8 | is too expensive to launch trought a window ... | 08:38 |
| mk8 | derf: I not change the original image ... is the original ... simpli I add some software and library ... | 08:39 |
| derf | If that doesn't fix it, try disabling R&D mode (if it's enabled), flashing it, and then enabling it. | 08:39 |
| derf | (before rebooting) | 08:39 |
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| derf | Also make sure you take out the SD cards before flashing. | 08:39 |
| derf | mk8: Flashing it will wipe out any software or data you installed. | 08:40 |
| mk8 | Ok ... now try ... | 08:40 |
| keesj | Jaffa are you subscribed to the mud users list? | 08:43 |
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| mk8 | derf: .... ok ... the device now is started ... thank's.... | 08:54 |
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| mk8 | Bye to all ... thank's .... | 09:57 |
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| Jaffa | keesj: yes, although I've been stupidly busy all week so not had time to respond to things | 10:11 |
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| keesj | Jaffa it's alright to say you hava no time. but if people don't head anything I guess it is a big strange | 10:37 |
| keesj | Jaffa: if you could respond to my feedback of about two weeks ago about the workflow i will be able help a lot | 10:38 |
| keesj | I am ready to put more things in svn but that requires to change the workflow to what I have proposed | 10:38 |
| keesj | also I would setup a few repositories and automated scripts and forgert about the default maemo repository, it is just slowing us down. | 10:39 |
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| keesj | hmm openssh does not install in blue pill mode perhaps it is missing a section? | 11:26 |
| acydlord | openssh installs in redpill | 11:35 |
| keesj | yes , that is lame right? | 11:35 |
| acydlord | you can always install it from root in xterm | 11:36 |
| keesj | I already did , but i needed root , and installing ssh would be an easy way of getting root | 11:37 |
| acydlord | i just installed gainroot | 11:37 |
| keesj | acydlord: why is it listed in the downloads.maemo.org? | 11:37 |
| acydlord | cause you can install it with redpill mode | 11:37 |
| keesj | I know how to work around the problem . I just wonder if you think it is a problem or a feature | 11:38 |
| acydlord | it's a minor annoyance | 11:38 |
| acydlord | so microsoft would call it a feature | 11:38 |
| inz | SSH server does reveal your device to hackers so there is certain point in not being able to install it w/o red pill | 11:41 |
| acydlord | inz, you know if there is a way to make nginx parse index.php without having to directly point to the page? | 11:42 |
| acydlord | i'm a bit too lazy to check for myself right now =x | 11:42 |
| inz | acydlord, it should be fixed in the latest php5-fastcgi package | 11:44 |
| inz | (you need to restart nginx after installing it though) | 11:45 |
| acydlord | ahh, that could have been my problem | 11:45 |
| acydlord | i was trying to rework wordpress a little to not show the sql errors | 11:45 |
| acydlord | and to show the themes on remote machines | 11:45 |
| keesj | inz: alright , but why is it in the application catelogue? | 11:47 |
| acydlord | so people can add it if they want to | 11:47 |
| keesj | yes but they also must know that there is a default password on the device etc right? | 11:48 |
| keesj | I am a bit confused, | 11:48 |
| acydlord | i believe the garage page explains everything | 11:48 |
| keesj | what page? | 11:49 |
| acydlord | in the app page click the app name and then click homepage | 11:49 |
| [mbm] | hmm .. anyone know much about retu? | 11:50 |
| acydlord | either in the descrip or the forums for the app | 11:50 |
| keesj | http://www.openssh.org/? | 11:50 |
| acydlord | hang on | 11:50 |
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| inz | keesj, that I dunno... | 11:51 |
| keesj | no oke , i see , it is a feature:) | 11:51 |
| keesj | http://downloads.maemo.org/product/openssh | 11:51 |
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| inz | acyd, if you get the changes to wordpress done, please send me a patch so I can integrate it | 11:51 |
| keesj | (not a garage page). I have to walk the dog. | 11:51 |
| keesj | inz: do you know if maemo-blog works with maemo-people? | 11:51 |
| inz | keesj, does it have a xmlrpc interface? | 11:53 |
| acydlord | http://maemo.org/maemowiki/InstallSsh2006 | 11:53 |
| [mbm] | standby mode works with the exception of the damn retu watchdog | 11:53 |
| acydlord | pretty much the same for IT2007 | 11:53 |
| tko | inz, doesn't mean anything.. blogs.gnome.org has xmlrpc but maemo-blog crashes when fetching old posts | 11:54 |
| tko | or maybe you just don't like me asking for screenshots all the time | 11:54 |
| [mbm] | don't refresh the watchdog every 60 seconds and it reboots | 11:54 |
| tko | which still aren't anywhere btw | 11:54 |
| acydlord | will do inz | 11:54 |
| acydlord | i'm probably going to do a bit ofwork on it this week, trying to get ahold of one of the developers over at wp | 11:54 |
| keesj | inz: I will have to ask maddler I don't see it right away | 11:56 |
| inz | keesj, b2evo should support metaweblog API, so it _should_ be supported by maemo-blog | 11:56 |
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| pwille | I'm having a problem with dropbear-server. If I install it and reboot, my n800 get stuck at the white nokia screen - i have only been able to recover by reflashing. is this a known problem? | 12:26 |
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| inz | pwille, does it happend every time? | 12:31 |
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| pwille | yes, i've done it 3 time | 12:31 |
| pwille | inz: dopbear-server 0.49-1mh1 | 12:33 |
| pwille | do you guys use dropbear or openssh servers | 12:35 |
| inz | pwille, how long did you wait in the white screen? | 12:36 |
| inz | pwille, I think it's collectring entropy or sth like that and blocking the device startup... | 12:36 |
| pwille | inz: hmm, 3-5 mins I think | 12:36 |
| hefner | what is /scratchbox/users/foo/targets, a symlink? If so, what should point to? (the installer doesn't appear to have created any such thing) | 12:37 |
| inz | pwille, mine did wake up when I pushed the buttons repeatedly | 12:37 |
| pwille | inz: in the white screen with the progressbar? | 12:38 |
| inz | pwille, yes | 12:38 |
| pwille | inz: ah, so it needs random keypresses for some time? | 12:38 |
| inz | pwille, it needs some entropy... | 12:38 |
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| [mbm] | umm .. there's a hardware random number generator .. | 12:39 |
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| inz | is it used? | 12:39 |
| pwille | inz: does it need to gather entropy after every boot? | 12:39 |
| pwille | inz: or just once? | 12:39 |
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| inz | pwille, every time | 12:39 |
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| inz | pwille, the older version did it in the background | 12:40 |
| pwille | inz: ok, is this a new thing? I had dropbear running fine earlier | 12:40 |
| inz | pwille, it seems to have come from the upgrade to 0.49 (from 0.48.1) | 12:40 |
| pwille | inz: ok. thanks alot | 12:41 |
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| sbaturzio | Aloha! | 12:41 |
| inz | pwille, I'll make it start up later (i.e. after desktop) | 12:42 |
| inz | pwille, that should circumvent the problems | 12:43 |
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| pwille | inz: ok, nice | 12:56 |
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| maddler | g'morning world! | 14:04 |
| b0unc3 | ave maddler :) | 14:10 |
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| Unique311 | gnupaint for n800 | 14:14 |
| Unique311 | can it be done n 30 minutes | 14:15 |
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| maddler | b0unc3: ciao bello! :) | 15:06 |
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| sbaturzio | well...let's talk about gpe-calendar... | 16:18 |
| sbaturzio | yesterday was playing with its "import" feature | 16:19 |
| sbaturzio | have made a shell script for importing .ics file: seems it works better than "subscribing" thru a web site | 16:19 |
| sbaturzio | i.e.: the same file "subscribed" made gpe-cal crash, but "imported" works. | 16:20 |
| sbaturzio | the problem is the "activities": they are imported twice if I import the same file two times | 16:20 |
| sbaturzio | anyway, the question now is: is there a way to sync ics files with evolution-data-server with a shell script? | 16:21 |
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| s-ndh-c | when will modest be released? | 16:40 |
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| Sulis_ | :/ | 16:44 |
| Sulis_ | all the sounds on my n800 have gone really weird | 16:44 |
| Sulis_ | like really loud and kinda like they're being echoed as well | 16:44 |
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| maddler | shackan: heya man... | 16:55 |
| maddler | shackan: wanna laugh? I had my scooter back! see? no reason to shout and smash everything! :) | 16:55 |
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| kender | hello | 17:19 |
| derf | maddler: So I came up with a rather horrible solution. | 17:20 |
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| derf | I just copied the "user" line in /etc/passwd and changed the user name, to that user has the same PID as "user". | 17:20 |
| kender | I have ubuntu feisty and the 770-encoder scripts doesn't transform audio correctly, anyone with the same problem here? | 17:21 |
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| kkito | kender, did you try http://www.libsdl.de/projects/konverter/ ? | 17:31 |
| kender | no | 17:31 |
| kender | thanks | 17:31 |
| kender | kkito, with what options? :) | 17:32 |
| kender | or maybe, for Gnome user, avidemux? | 17:32 |
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| kkito | kender, i encode my videos using mencoder directly, without any frontend, first i look the properties of some videos previously encoded for the n800, and then convert the videos using mencoder and that properties... | 17:35 |
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| kkito | http://en.linuxreviews.org/HOWTO_Convert_video_files | 17:38 |
| kender | thanks! | 17:39 |
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| kkito | kender, $mencoder -vf scale=240:135 "$input" -o "$output" -of avi -ofps 15 -ovc \ | 17:41 |
| kkito | lavc -oac lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vbitrate=230:acodec=mp3:abitrate=64 | 17:41 |
| kkito | change the scale and vbitrate and abitrate for more quality | 17:41 |
| kender | =D | 17:42 |
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| neostrider | hello tablet people | 17:48 |
| kender | hey neostrider | 17:48 |
| neostrider | how is everything going, kender? | 17:49 |
| kender | fine thanks | 17:49 |
| neostrider | great | 17:49 |
| neostrider | user or dev? | 17:49 |
| kender | mm.. | 17:50 |
| kender | 0.5 user 0.5 dev | 17:50 |
| kender | hehehe | 17:50 |
| kender | I'm starting as a developer | 17:50 |
| neostrider | great | 17:53 |
| neostrider | whatchadoing? | 17:53 |
| kender | mm.. | 17:54 |
| neostrider | ("What are you doing for it"?) | 17:54 |
| kender | porting an application called shell-fm, it is for listening last.fm radio streams | 17:54 |
| neostrider | last.fm! great!!!!! | 17:54 |
| kender | hehehe | 17:55 |
| neostrider | will work with it2006? | 17:55 |
| kender | I haven't got the N770, but I think yes | 17:55 |
| neostrider | i will test for you | 17:55 |
| kender | hehehe | 17:55 |
| kender | great! | 17:55 |
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| neostrider | do you have any IM? | 17:55 |
| kender | yeah | 17:56 |
| kender | kendersec@gmail.com | 17:56 |
| kender | jabber, email or msn | 17:56 |
| kender | hehe | 17:56 |
| neostrider | great | 17:56 |
| neostrider | when you get something to test, let me know! | 17:57 |
| kender | nice | 17:57 |
| kender | I'm trying to do it thought gstreamer, but I have to build a new plugin for it and I'm a bit lost | 17:57 |
| kender | hehe | 17:57 |
| keesj | hehe | 17:58 |
| kender | *through | 17:58 |
| kender | keesj, =) | 17:59 |
| keesj | this is a great looking sodoku game http://www.aivokyyti.net/maemo/tomiku_1.0_screenshot.jpg | 17:59 |
| neostrider | kender...thats why i like SDL | 17:59 |
| kender | maybe, finnaly I don't use shell-fm, and using the mediaplayer and the gstreamer plugin it works, I'm not sure | 18:00 |
| kender | neostrider, hehehe, I have no idea about SDL | 18:00 |
| neostrider | kender , at least you know what SDL is, right? | 18:00 |
| kender | yeah | 18:00 |
| kender | ;-) | 18:00 |
| neostrider | keesj, great visual! | 18:00 |
| neostrider | kender, SDL is very easy | 18:01 |
| keesj | the program just works | 18:01 |
| neostrider | i was planning to do a funny flash game with a visual just like this | 18:01 |
| kender | keesj, hehe | 18:01 |
| neostrider | but i dont know flash =-P | 18:01 |
| keesj | and the quality is just to high for a normal game | 18:01 |
| kender | neostrider, you can try to port shell-fm from alsa and libmad to SDL | 18:02 |
| keesj | neostrider: flash is no that bad if you use mtasc you can even program under linux | 18:02 |
| neostrider | mtasc? | 18:02 |
| kender | a question, did SDL use the hardware mp3 decode of the dsp? | 18:02 |
| neostrider | kender, where can i get it? | 18:02 |
| neostrider | kender, I guess no | 18:03 |
| keesj | http://www.mtasc.org/ | 18:03 |
| kender | that's why I'm using gstreamer | 18:03 |
| neostrider | indeed, my app doesnt have sound yet hehe | 18:03 |
| kender | hehe | 18:03 |
| neostrider | i think SDL uses alsa | 18:03 |
| kender | yeah, I'm talking about last.fm player | 18:03 |
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| keesj | neostrider: what is your app? | 18:03 |
| kender | http://nex.scrapping.cc/shell-fm/ | 18:03 |
| neostrider | 3D game engine | 18:04 |
| s-ndh-c | will there be an itos update with newer gtk? | 18:04 |
| kender | this, uses oss, but tecnically, with libao, it can use esd, alsa too | 18:04 |
| kender | I build but nothing sounds in the device | 18:04 |
| kender | hehe | 18:04 |
| kkito | the only thing that uses the dsp is the gstreamer mp3 pluging... | 18:04 |
| neostrider | keesj: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evbAMS4b7VQ | 18:05 |
| kender | yeah | 18:05 |
| kender | that's why I want to use it | 18:05 |
| keesj | neostrider: I helped youi a time ago right? | 18:05 |
| kender | last.fm music streams are encoded in mp3 format | 18:05 |
| neostrider | keesj , yeah. I remember. but for this demo running on device I used that little "maemozier" script I did | 18:07 |
| neostrider | based on bomberman | 18:07 |
| neostrider | it generated the package almost instanly | 18:07 |
| pahartik | kkito: AAC audio content is decoded by DSP... | 18:08 |
| kkito | ah ok | 18:08 |
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| neostrider | I discovered I could use my old N-Gage converted files in the 770 just yesterday ehheheh | 18:11 |
| kkito | :) | 18:11 |
| neostrider | i didnt know it support AAC | 18:11 |
| neostrider | im mostly a developer | 18:11 |
| neostrider | i dont use much the 770 | 18:12 |
| neostrider | lunch... | 18:21 |
| neostrider | brb | 18:21 |
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| Magi | Anyone know how to get function keys with bt keyboard? | 18:33 |
| Magi | I'd like to get F2 to be able to edit cell from keyboard in Gnumeric. | 18:34 |
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| keesj | the thumboard on the xterm really should use a real bash with completion | 18:44 |
| kkito | some kdeapps runs really good on the n800 :) | 18:48 |
| kkito | i was testing konqueror, and it is fast like xterm... | 18:49 |
| kkito | ups | 18:49 |
| kkito | konsole not konqueror :D | 18:49 |
| Bipolar | kkito, are you going to post debs somewhere? | 18:49 |
| kkito | Bipolar, a lot of apps doesnt run at all, first i want to solve that | 18:50 |
| kkito | and its is hard to debug, because kde needs a newer dbus and it doesnt run under the arm scratchbox | 18:50 |
| Bipolar | kkito, ok.. have you tried kontact yet? | 18:51 |
| kkito | now i am compiling for the x86 scratchbox and debug there... | 18:51 |
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| kkito | Bipolar, kontact never finish to start | 18:51 |
| Bipolar | heh | 18:51 |
| kkito | it doesnt output any error, but never a window appears | 18:51 |
| kkito | same with konqueror | 18:51 |
| Bipolar | intresting | 18:51 |
| kkito | i dont know if it is a dbus related problem or what | 18:52 |
| kkito | i am working on it... :P | 18:52 |
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| Bipolar | kkito, i thought maybe uKDE would be a good name... :) | 18:54 |
| kkito | what does "U" mean? | 18:55 |
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| Bipolar | u is the preifx for micro | 18:55 |
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| kkito | ah ok :) | 18:56 |
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| bhima | When I try to install ssh on my N800 it fails. NO meaningful message, just "I couldn't, sorry" | 19:05 |
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| Magi | Any hint on pressing function keys from keyboard? | 19:06 |
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| keesj | Magi: perhaps create different key mappings? | 19:16 |
| disq | mmm-mmm. yes i just woke up. and yes it's 7pm here | 19:17 |
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| disq | blame open source. | 19:17 |
| bhz_ | I will pay $20 via paypal if you DoS someone for 5 hours. will pay $4 every hour. message me if interested | 19:17 |
| shackan_ | what the hell? | 19:19 |
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| Bipolar | get your own bot net.... loser! | 19:21 |
| shackan_ | Bipolar, oh yeah, Real Men Have Bot Nets | 19:24 |
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| * shackan_ loses further faith in mankind... | 19:24 | |
| maddler | re | 19:27 |
| disq | re :) | 19:27 |
| disq | wow. if you lock the n800 and then shut it down without unlocking | 19:28 |
| disq | it asks for the code when you turn it on | 19:28 |
| saerdnaer | is there a way of getting error messages during the boot process? | 19:30 |
| disq | keesj: "when you don't know where | 19:31 |
| disq | you have put your device , you can ssh to it and play some music" lol :) | 19:31 |
| disq | saerdnaer: mm, dmesg? | 19:31 |
| saerdnaer | it doesn't boot | 19:31 |
| saerdnaer | so i can't get to xterm | 19:32 |
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| disq | there are pads for a serial console (and probably jtag) at the back of the device but you need to hack/make up a connector to actually use them | 19:32 |
| saerdnaer | the only way i get to the device's flash at the moment is, by booting a secendary root fs from mmc | 19:32 |
| saerdnaer | disq: hmm, nice idea | 19:33 |
| disq | you could try reflashing the device if you want to get it to work and don't care about the error messages but you wouldn't ask it that way if that were the case | 19:33 |
| saerdnaer | ;-) | 19:33 |
| disq | the pin layout for the 770 is like this.. | 19:33 |
| * disq looks for documents | 19:33 | |
| saerdnaer | url? | 19:34 |
| disq | erm its somewhere in maemo.org but i have it saved somewhere | 19:34 |
| maddler | 00 | 19:35 |
| disq | 1-2-3-4-5-6 | 19:35 |
| disq | -7-8-9-A-B- | 19:35 |
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| disq | these are the pins. 9 is rxd, A is txd | 19:35 |
| disq | erm it's here actually http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HowTo_KernelCompilation | 19:36 |
| Magi | keesj: hmm, I guess I could try something like that | 19:37 |
| shackan_ | disq, jtag too? | 19:39 |
| disq | possibly, there are too many pins there | 19:39 |
| disq | my 770 has etches in some pins. the 1 2 3 5 6 7 8 9 A | 19:41 |
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| disq | so the connector they used in the factory had these pins. some of them should be related to jtag | 19:41 |
| shackan_ | I've noticed the serial pins near the N800 battery, there's also another set of pins (4) on the upper-left corner of the device but I don't know what they're for | 19:41 |
| disq | in the n800 there are 7 pins, looks like 3 of them is ground | 19:43 |
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| saerdnaer | hmm, i think i will try this with some hard foam and some needles... | 19:51 |
| disq | mmmm.. yeah, polyurethane should probably work | 19:52 |
| saerdnaer | i have a 770, so i don't need the layout for the n800 | 19:52 |
| disq | we don't have it :P | 19:52 |
| c0ffee | the pin assignment of the 770 is documented on the flasher usage wiki page | 19:52 |
| saerdnaer | yes i already found it | 19:52 |
| saerdnaer | and a serial console cable is availible ;-) | 19:53 |
| disq | being a hardware hacker has its advantages :p | 19:53 |
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| bhima | hefner: hmm? | 19:59 |
| hefner | a couple packages during the nokia sdk seem to be corrupt and won't install | 20:02 |
| bhima | saerdnaer: where is a serial console cable available from? | 20:02 |
| hefner | getting scratchbox installed was also a bit of an adventure | 20:02 |
| saerdnaer | i have used it for getting access to one of my foneras | 20:03 |
| bhima | I need to install scratchbox on my Mac soon. Any Linux flavor that's suggested? I'll only be using it for maemo, and want minimal effort. | 20:04 |
| hefner | maybe I'll set up a linux system inside vmware again to try and install this in, but right now letting scratchbox do its things to my main linux system scares the hell out of me | 20:04 |
| saerdnaer | in my case this is just a siemens 35 series data cable this a luncent to 10 pin adapter | 20:04 |
| Tak | bhima: debian or something based on it | 20:07 |
| bhima | Tak: Thanks. | 20:08 |
| * bhima brb. | 20:08 | |
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| saerdnaer | why coudn't be foam transparent .-( | 20:19 |
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| disq | make a pin template from paper | 20:20 |
| disq | put it on the foam, and stick the needles from that side | 20:20 |
| saerdnaer | nice ide | 20:20 |
| saerdnaer | a | 20:20 |
| disq | and good luck :) | 20:20 |
| saerdnaer | thanks | 20:22 |
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| Biskit | any solution for reading odf files in n800? | 20:32 |
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| Biskit | anybody with odf on n800 info? | 20:40 |
| Tak | there has to be a libvorbis package for maemo by now... | 20:40 |
| disq | uh. another maemopad+ release out the door. that feels good :p | 20:45 |
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| derf | Tak: I would think Tremor would do much better. | 20:55 |
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| derf | Not that I could get the gstreamer plugin to work. | 20:56 |
| Magi | Maemopad+ shouldn't use some binary format. | 20:57 |
| Tak | I thought tremor was just an option for libvorbis ? | 20:58 |
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| derf | Option? It's a completely separate library. | 21:00 |
| Tak | ok...how about tremor packages then? | 21:02 |
| derf | I thought I saw a gstreamer plugin yesterdy, but I have no idea what repository it was in... it's not in apt-cache now. | 21:04 |
| Tak | s'ok - I don't want/need the gstreamer part | 21:04 |
| * Tak builds from svn | 21:04 | |
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| derf | What do you want it for? | 21:05 |
| Tak | adonthell | 21:05 |
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| Tak | omfg I hate things that use obscure tools to build | 21:29 |
| saerdnaer | disq: hmm hasn't worked | 21:29 |
| saerdnaer | i got some interessing strings | 21:29 |
| saerdnaer | but these were from the initfs kernel | 21:29 |
| saerdnaer | and not from the rootfs kernel | 21:29 |
| saerdnaer | so useless for my problem | 21:29 |
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| saerdnaer | can i use this serial interface as ttyS0? | 21:30 |
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| Unique311 | can someone port gpaint to tge n800 | 21:32 |
| Unique311 | neo | 21:32 |
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| keesj | gpaint? | 21:34 |
| keesj | this ? http://www.atai.org/gpaint/screenshot.jpg | 21:35 |
| hefner | must be the poster child for mindless immitation of microsoft software | 21:36 |
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| saerdnaer | you coud run this javascript paint in opera ;-) | 21:37 |
| keesj | You sure have a Unique taste :p | 21:37 |
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| keesj | try tuxpaint! | 21:38 |
| keesj | sorry | 21:38 |
| keesj | I was not very kind | 21:38 |
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| Unique311 | gpaint much better | 21:44 |
| Unique311 | but it won't install on my n800 | 21:44 |
| keesj | even gentoo never heard of gpaint | 21:45 |
| Unique311 | hmmm | 21:45 |
| Unique311 | its ported already | 21:46 |
| Unique311 | just for the 770 | 21:46 |
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| keesj | url? | 21:47 |
| Unique311 | 1 sec | 21:47 |
| Unique311 | http://michaels770.blogspot.com/2006/04/gnupaint770.html | 21:48 |
| Unique311 | gnupaint | 21:48 |
| Unique311 | gnupaint770 | 21:49 |
| Unique311 | hopefully gnupaint800 | 21:49 |
| saerdnaer | ah here it ist: ms paint in a browser: http://www.canvaspaint.org/ | 21:50 |
| Unique311 | keej can u emaiil me, if you find anything out..gota head back to work.. unique11210@gmail.com | 21:52 |
| Unique311 | incompatible browser for canvaspaint | 21:52 |
| Unique311 | later maemo nation.. | 21:53 |
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| Tak | omfg, I can definitely see why nobody's built adonthell for maemo yet | 21:57 |
| disq | saerdnaer: afaik yes, you can | 22:00 |
| saerdnaer | nice, so i dont need an usb2seriell converter | 22:01 |
| disq | Magi: it's just a sqlite3 database, you can read it with the sqlite3 client | 22:01 |
| saerdnaer | mine hasn't worked either | 22:01 |
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| saerdnaer | is one of this pins at the backside +3.3V? | 22:02 |
| disq | possibly :) | 22:03 |
| disq | i can check with a multimeter if you don't have one | 22:03 |
| saerdnaer | hmm, i could connect a 3.3v to 5v step up converter and dont need an extra battery for usb host | 22:04 |
| Bipolar | is there any way to see the % of charge on the n800? | 22:05 |
| disq | would require precise soldering though | 22:05 |
| saerdnaer | disq: yes | 22:05 |
| saerdnaer | but in case i hasn't all place inside the device i could outsorce the converter into the cable | 22:06 |
| saerdnaer | and this mini usb connecter as one unsused pin | 22:07 |
| derf | Well, now my N800 has developed a very annoying little habit: any time you click on a menu in the main menu, the whole menu goes away; it doesn't bring up the submenus. | 22:07 |
| saerdnaer | so i only need one bridge from 3.3v to this unused pin an then outside the power up controller | 22:07 |
| saerdnaer | hey and then i even can switch it of or on by inserting the min usb jack | 22:10 |
| saerdnaer | hey and then i even can switch it on and off by inserting/removing the min usb jack | 22:10 |
| disq | mmm that would be smarter, yes | 22:10 |
| disq | please document it with photos :) | 22:10 |
| saerdnaer | if i have time ;-) | 22:10 |
| Bipolar | saerdnaer, might be a good solution to get cellular internet :) | 22:12 |
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