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| maddler | damn... my scooter was stolen! :| | 00:18 |
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| chibiAcyd | that sucks. | 00:19 |
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| maddler | chibiAcyd: yep... | 00:20 |
| maddler | if that was my laptop or my N800 would have been worse. anyway... | 00:21 |
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| chibiAcyd | yeah. some goon stole my laptop last year, i guess he didn't realize to think that someone in network security would have their laptop phone home and rigged with a gps transponder | 00:23 |
| chibiAcyd | so luckily i had it back in a few hours | 00:24 |
| maddler | hehehe... | 00:24 |
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| maddler | never considered about that GPS stuff... | 00:24 |
| maddler | hmmm... should find a way to put a GPS somewhere inside... | 00:25 |
| maddler | maybe replacing battery... lol! | 00:25 |
| Darknesss | on a nokia 770, can you put wifi in ad-hoc mode? | 00:26 |
| chibiAcyd | you can connect to ad-hoc systems | 00:26 |
| chibiAcyd | if you install the wireless tools you can probably set it in ad-hoc via xterm | 00:27 |
| Darknesss | wireless tools? | 00:28 |
| maddler | Darknesss: dunno... never tried... I'd say yes btw... | 00:28 |
| Darknesss | it would be nice if I can make it broadcast an ssid or something | 00:28 |
| Darknesss | to detect it's presence | 00:29 |
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| Darknesss | chibiAcyd, do you have a link to the wireless tools? | 00:29 |
| chibiAcyd | the wireless tools package is available in the maemo apps listing | 00:30 |
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| Darknesss | found it, thanks | 00:32 |
| chibiAcyd | no problem | 00:32 |
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| Darknesss | at least I think :) | 00:36 |
| Darknesss | hmm, no install file | 00:36 |
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| chibiAcyd | should be a deb for it in there | 00:41 |
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| Darknesss | found a deb here: http://www.mulliner.org/nokia770/ | 00:42 |
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| maddler | dum deee daa... | 00:45 |
| * maddler drinks warm beer... | 00:45 | |
| maddler | no... not a good day... :) | 00:45 |
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| chibiAcyd | only dark beers are good warm | 00:46 |
| maddler | indeed... | 00:46 |
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| maddler | and heineken != dark beer! | 00:47 |
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| chibiAcyd | man, now i want a twelver of sunshine | 00:47 |
| maddler | what's that? | 00:48 |
| chibiAcyd | spring seasonal from new belgium brewing co | 00:49 |
| maddler | sounds nice... | 00:49 |
| Darknesss | chibiAcyd, you belgian? | 00:50 |
| chibiAcyd | it's got a nice citrus accent to it | 00:50 |
| maddler | chibiAcyd: send me some as soon as you get some! :D | 00:51 |
| chibiAcyd | nah, i'm welsh/american | 00:51 |
| maddler | chibiAcyd: well nobody is perfect... :) | 00:51 |
| chibiAcyd | lol | 00:51 |
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| maddler | thanks god I'm italian... | 00:53 |
| maddler | :DDDDDDDDD | 00:53 |
| maddler | well... beside an italian just stolen my scooter... :D | 00:53 |
| Tak | now if only you were a plumber... | 00:53 |
| maddler | hahaha... | 00:53 |
| maddler | feel free to call me Mario! :D | 00:54 |
| chibiAcyd | by skooter do you mean vespa or go-ped? | 00:54 |
| b0unc3 | anvedi un'italiano :) | 00:54 |
| maddler | something like a vespa... | 00:54 |
| maddler | hehehehe... ciao paisa`! :D | 00:55 |
| chibiAcyd | cause if it was a go-ped that would be too nerdy :p | 00:55 |
| maddler | b0unc3: there are a few in here... :) | 00:55 |
| maddler | hehehe... not that I'm not a nerd! :D | 00:55 |
| maddler | techno-nerds will rule the world, sooner or later! | 00:55 |
| b0unc3 | maddler: good | 00:55 |
| maddler | b0unc3: where are you from? | 00:56 |
| b0unc3 | maddler: Sicily , and you ? | 00:56 |
| chibiAcyd | the geek shall inherit the earth | 00:56 |
| maddler | b0unc3: rome | 00:59 |
| maddler | chibiAcyd: we will... we will... | 00:59 |
| maddler | only the geek will sirvive! :D | 00:59 |
| chibiAcyd | cause we will make the technology | 01:00 |
| maddler | yeah | 01:02 |
| shackan | troppi Taliani qui dentro | 01:03 |
| shackan | :P | 01:03 |
| maddler | shackan: you could aways leave... ;) | 01:03 |
| b0unc3 | :D | 01:03 |
| maddler | -1 | 01:03 |
| shackan | eh, being italian is not my fault | 01:04 |
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| maddler | no... but being here is your choice... :) | 01:04 |
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| maddler | shackan: where from? | 01:20 |
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| shackan | scum-city^H^H^H^Hnaples | 01:21 |
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| maddler | hehe | 01:25 |
| chibiAcyd | wow i'm lagging | 01:25 |
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| maddler | I'm thinking about suicide... | 01:29 |
| maddler | Festival di Sanremo after a stolen scooter is TOO much! | 01:30 |
| shackan | maddler, welcome to italy | 01:30 |
| chibiAcyd | go steal your scooter back | 01:30 |
| maddler | shackan: damn it! :D | 01:30 |
| shackan | yeah, and shoot that bastard in the back | 01:30 |
| maddler | chibiAcyd: if I knew where it is... :) | 01:31 |
| shackan | tsk, no gps on your scooter? | 01:31 |
| chibiAcyd | find some pompous american tourist, and steal their rental | 01:31 |
| maddler | well... you know...riches got to be shared... :) | 01:32 |
| maddler | chibiAcyd: hahahaha... rented scooter are _dangerous_! | 01:32 |
| maddler | I rented one some time ago... and last time that scooter saw maintenance was the day it left concessionary... | 01:33 |
| disq | scooters are really cute in italy | 01:33 |
| disq | i was in milano once there was this huge scooter parking spot | 01:34 |
| shackan | wrong, girls are really cute in italy | 01:34 |
| chibiAcyd | bah, just got a call to update a business directory | 01:34 |
| maddler | disq: and you should see here in rome... | 01:34 |
| maddler | disq: 10 times more... | 01:34 |
| shackan | maddler, you really don't appear too worried for just having had your scooter stolen | 01:35 |
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| maddler | shackan: what should I do? | 01:36 |
| maddler | I haven't it anymore... | 01:36 |
| shackan | scream! | 01:36 |
| maddler | shackan: and... ? | 01:36 |
| shackan | smash something | 01:36 |
| maddler | will they bring it to me? I don't thing so... | 01:36 |
| maddler | same... I'll just have something broken... | 01:36 |
| maddler | screaming and shouting and smashing stuff... won't give my scooter back... | 01:37 |
| maddler | so... relax... drink a beer... and be happy! | 01:37 |
| shackan | ehm | 01:38 |
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| maddler | ok... the beer wasn't cold enough... :) | 01:41 |
| disq | :) | 01:41 |
| shackan | man, you're definitely not italian | 01:41 |
| shackan | briton? | 01:42 |
| maddler | hehehe... maybe in one of my previou lifes... | 01:42 |
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| maddler | brb | 01:49 |
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| maddler | ok... /me feels better :) | 01:49 |
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| disq | mmm | 01:51 |
| disq | all this beer talk. let me fetch a glass of scotch | 01:51 |
| disq | mmm that's better | 01:53 |
| maddler | disq: hehehe... I have som homemade cherry... | 01:54 |
| maddler | s/som/some/ | 01:54 |
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| disq | <3 glenmorangie (or 3>?) (this is starting to look like a regexp) | 01:55 |
| maddler | hehe | 01:56 |
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| shackan | I have to wake up early tomorrow, bye lushers :P | 01:57 |
| disq | night :) | 01:58 |
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| maddler | shackan: bye shackan | 01:58 |
| shackan | bye maddy | 01:58 |
| b0unc3 | shackan: bye bye | 01:58 |
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| maddler | dum deee daaa... | 02:00 |
| disq | yup | 02:05 |
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| disq | i'll try out kmplayer | 02:06 |
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| disq | mm not there yet | 02:08 |
| * maddler is encoding Goldmember :) | 02:10 | |
| maddler | 2X4GB SDs is nice... :D | 02:10 |
| mazzen | has anyone experience with connecting the web with the 770 and *eplus*? i can send, but dont receive anything. :-( | 02:12 |
| chibiAcyd | i ony have 2x 1gb but i got them for $12USD | 02:14 |
| maddler | bo bad... :) | 02:15 |
| maddler | here 30E for 4GD | 02:15 |
| chibiAcyd | it's about the same here | 02:16 |
| * nomis bids 25.90 EUR. | 02:17 | |
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| nomis | Are 4GB supported by the N800? How much hackery is necessary? | 02:18 |
| maddler | nomis: nothing... | 02:18 |
| maddler | I simplu inserted them :) | 02:18 |
| nomis | heh, cool. | 02:18 |
| maddler | by the way, I'm not sure that all 4GB are working out of the box... | 02:18 |
| nomis | yeah. | 02:19 |
| chibiAcyd | they enabled it in the firmware didn't they? | 02:19 |
| soulblaze | it depends on what tech the 4gb sd card is using | 02:19 |
| maddler | chibiAcyd: yes... even if only 2GB cards are officially supported... | 02:19 |
| nomis | soulblaze: in what sense? | 02:19 |
| maddler | soulblaze: SDHC are not working... | 02:19 |
| soulblaze | if it's using the tech that had a theoretical max of 2gb, then it works fine..if it uses the newer (sdhc?) you need to find a flash image for it | 02:19 |
| s-ndh-c | is it possibleto run scratchbox *BSD? | 02:20 |
| s-ndh-c | +on | 02:20 |
| maddler | SDHC require an ad-hoc kernel... | 02:20 |
| maddler | s-ndh-c: I think so... | 02:20 |
| b0unc3 | s-ndh-c: no... | 02:20 |
| chibiAcyd | i'm glad they added something other than rsmmc | 02:20 |
| maddler | chibiAcyd: yep... SD are faster... | 02:20 |
| maddler | I can see the difference... | 02:20 |
| chibiAcyd | and larger capacity | 02:21 |
| maddler | yep... that's not bad either... | 02:21 |
| chibiAcyd | i would love to have a bga soldering arm | 02:21 |
| chibiAcyd | would be nice to be able to add more onboard memory | 02:22 |
| s-ndh-c | i guess i will try running scratchbox in a xen linux guest within netbsd | 02:25 |
| s-ndh-c | hope that works | 02:25 |
| maddler | chibiAcyd: hehehehe | 02:25 |
| b0unc3 | s-ndh-c: maybe if you 'emulate' linux ... | 02:26 |
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| maddler | dum... | 02:28 |
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| b0unc3 | why if I put an url icon in the .desktop of a cp plugin , it dosen't work ? | 02:31 |
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| maddler | no idea... | 02:39 |
| maddler | time to hit the bed... | 02:43 |
| b0unc3 | me too | 02:44 |
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| omega | so, a particularly argumentative person in #dbus tells me that Maemo D-Bus doesn't support introspection, and the python bindings will not function *without* introspection, therefore the bindings are worthless | 02:46 |
| omega | anyone know if this is true, and if so, why on earth the bindings are shipped? | 02:47 |
| chibiAcyd | i remember reading something about the dbus being the reason bt headsets don't work | 02:48 |
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| neostrider | hello folks | 03:07 |
| neostrider | at last! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evbAMS4b7VQ | 03:07 |
| chibiAcyd | whats this? | 03:08 |
| neostrider | my game engine =-D | 03:08 |
| neostrider | running on 770 | 03:08 |
| neostrider | not as blazing fast as Doom for maemo, but works | 03:08 |
| chibiAcyd | ahh | 03:08 |
| neostrider | it tooks a good work to make it run | 03:09 |
| neostrider | and two years creating it from scratch | 03:09 |
| neostrider | well...there is it...im leaving now | 03:11 |
| Pio | neostrider, that little load average graph applet in your panel | 03:11 |
| neostrider | lots of work to be done | 03:11 |
| Pio | what's that called, i was trying to remember what that is the other night | 03:11 |
| Pio | engine looks good btw :) | 03:11 |
| neostrider | let me check it for you | 03:11 |
| neostrider | thanks =-D | 03:11 |
| neostrider | osso-statusbar-cpu | 03:12 |
| Pio | great | 03:12 |
| Pio | thanks | 03:12 |
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| Pio | http://pio.longstair.com/misc/maemo_xevil.jpg | 05:01 |
| Pio | lookin better | 05:01 |
| Tak | indeed | 05:02 |
| Tak | how's the performance ? | 05:02 |
| Pio | actually, great | 05:03 |
| Pio | its very smooth so far | 05:03 |
| Pio | i dont have the keys hooked into it so its not yet really playable so its hard to tell if i can use the 'smooth scroll' option | 05:06 |
| Pio | its running with half-size tiles too, i want to get it working with the full size ones.. | 05:07 |
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| Tak | cool | 05:22 |
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| Ocean | Can someone tell me wat does this error means > sbrsh server: Can't mount to point: /home/<username>/<host ip>-<target>/ | 05:27 |
| Ocean | i'm trying to test my Sbrsh but the server mount was denied.. | 05:27 |
| Ocean | when i go logged into my device I see a <host ip>-<target> created on my /home/<username> dir already | 05:28 |
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| mikemorrison | is there a header file with stock icons defined for hildon-ui? | 06:20 |
| mikemorrison | i'm trying to port my app and i'm having some trouble figuring out how to show the appropriate icons for file types and directories | 06:21 |
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| mikemorrison | gnome_icon_lookup is not available and even gnome_vfs_volume_get_icon returns an icon that is not available | 06:23 |
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| chibiAcyd | they are closing all the compusas where i live =/ | 07:09 |
| jacques | they should close the one by me - it's pathetic | 07:10 |
| jacques | nobody is ever there, staff totally apathetic, prices suck compared to Fry's | 07:10 |
| jacques | I've wondered for over a year how they could stay open | 07:11 |
| jacques | first thing I bought at compusa in like four years was my N800 (because Fry's didn't have them yet) | 07:12 |
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| jacques | heh, it looks like they *are* closing the one by me | 07:28 |
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| Tak | where does it say which ones are closing ? | 07:30 |
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| jacques | Tak, it doesn't, but there is a list of stores which are remaining open: http://www.compusa.com/locations/store.asp | 07:39 |
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| Tak | heh, mine is staying open | 08:02 |
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| soulblaze_ | heh..so is mine | 08:06 |
| soulblaze_ | well/ two that I frequent | 08:07 |
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| tigert | huomenta | morning | 08:15 |
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| Tak | buenos dias | morning :-P | 08:39 |
| acydlord | i think i'm gonna go pour out some liquor for compusa | 08:41 |
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| keesj | inz has blown the cover of a few nokians. i guess that's good | 09:17 |
| mikemorrison | anyone know why i'd have a border on the left, right and bottom of my app when it's fullscreen on the n800? | 09:26 |
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| inz | keesj, whaat? | 09:54 |
| konttori | inz: Dude, what have you done.... Mark my words. Nothing good will come from blowing peoples covers.... shame on you .... ;) Seriously, what's up? | 10:01 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 10:32 |
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| mk8 | Hi to all ... | 10:37 |
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| TinY_Apple | can someone help me with this problem? my sbrsh server mount return me Permission denied | 10:39 |
| inz | konttori, if by "blowin cover" he means that I suggested using apt-cache show <packagename> to get package's maintainer... | 10:40 |
| TinY_Apple | >sbrsh server: Can't mounst to point | 10:40 |
| TinY_Apple | I've check my device.. a dir <host_ip-target> is created | 10:41 |
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| konttori | inz: Ahh.. I see ;) | 10:53 |
| konttori | By the way, has anyone tried making a dpkg installer package on os x? | 10:53 |
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| Jaffa | konttori: if you install fink you've got dpkg directly | 11:20 |
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| hrw | hi | 11:59 |
| hrw | where is maemo bugtracker? | 11:59 |
| hrw | on maemo.org I do not see any | 11:59 |
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| mazzen | https://maemo.org/bugzilla/ | 12:03 |
| hrw | thx | 12:04 |
| hrw | is there a way to safely reboot n770? | 12:04 |
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| mazzen | whats against switching off and on? | 12:05 |
| greentux | somebody knows how 770 checks if slider closed? seems tricky ;) | 12:06 |
| hrw | greentux: magnet in cover | 12:06 |
| greentux | hrw: assumed that... ok. fine | 12:07 |
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| hrw | mazzen: I prefer to have filesystems synced before reboot | 12:07 |
| hrw | greentux: atleast thats what guys from OE told me | 12:07 |
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| mazzen | does anyone has experience with eplus, wap and n770? i can connect, get an ip, but it sends only 360 bytes... i dont receive anything :( | 12:09 |
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| maddler | gooooooooooodmorning maemo! | 12:13 |
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| hrw | ai_nw_installing and ai_nw_installing.. ai_ap_application_installer lack better progress informations.. (more detailed) | 12:15 |
| s-ndh-c | MDK: is it ok if i use some information form your wiki entry about mono on the n770/n800 and link to your tars for a german howto/Faq? | 12:16 |
| MDK | s-ndh-c: sure | 12:17 |
| hrw | uf.. ai_ni_install_successful | 12:17 |
| hrw | MDK: hi | 12:17 |
| hrw | ecdgbdinfomationnoteok - those messages roxx | 12:17 |
| hrw | lets see does after reboot n770 will behave or not | 12:19 |
| hrw | http://www.hrw.one.pl/2007/03/01/ai_ap_application_installer-roxx/ | 12:24 |
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| hrw | bug in it2007 (on 770) should be reported as n800 or n770 one? | 12:41 |
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| tko | hrw, in the garage project | 12:44 |
| hrw | ok | 12:45 |
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| maddler | /wg 17 | 12:59 |
| maddler | whops... | 12:59 |
| ptman | what do I need to create an application entry in the application catalog? the "Create Maemo Application" menu entry is grayed out | 13:05 |
| bergie | ptman: go to the appropriate application category | 13:07 |
| ptman | ah | 13:07 |
| ptman | where do you folks think a hildonized ssh-askpass should live? | 13:08 |
| ptman | probably security | 13:08 |
| ptman | thanks, there it is then | 13:10 |
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| konttori | Jaffa: Thanks. Installed it. Should help quite a bit. Don't have the time to make the package anymore though. Leaving to Mauritius tomorrow and quite a bit of work to be done today. If I'm lucky, I'll release a snapshot of the player today. But probably on the 12 th or the 13th when I'm back again. | 14:17 |
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| lardman | hmm, I compiled and tried to run Tiemu on the n800 and all I get is a black screen and lots of waiting around | 14:31 |
| lardman | ah ha, looks like this might be the issue: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=11507228 | 14:37 |
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| * mgedmin wants faster scrolling in the thumb-sized menus | 14:52 | |
| mgedmin | what are the changes in osso-xterm 0.13.mh21bora1? | 14:53 |
| inz | mgedmin, removed tooltips from tabs | 14:54 |
| * mgedmin ports wget to bora | 14:54 | |
| mgedmin | thanks, inz | 14:54 |
| mgedmin | any plans for fixing the theming bugs? | 14:55 |
| mgedmin | (terminal tabs are half-themed, half-not) | 14:55 |
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| mgedmin | I'm not expressing myself clearly | 14:56 |
| inz | mgedmin, no plans currently | 14:56 |
| hrw | mgedmin: port or build? | 14:57 |
| mgedmin | more like build than port | 14:57 |
| mgedmin | but "port" sounds much cooler ;) | 14:57 |
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| hrw | mgedmin: ;D | 15:00 |
| * hrw is going to port some cash into food | 15:00 | |
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| lardman | Any c++ gurus about? | 17:34 |
| hrw | depend on level of guruness | 17:35 |
| lardman | doesn't need to much, don't want to tax you this late in the week ;) | 17:36 |
| lardman | too much even | 17:36 |
| hrw | then ask? | 17:36 |
| lardman | When one compares strings using std::operator<, are the two arguments addresses of string structures of some or other type? | 17:37 |
| lardman | That's my reading of the header anyway: basic_string.h | 17:37 |
| hrw | if std::string a < std::string b moment? | 17:37 |
| lardman | dunno, need to look and see where it's called from | 17:38 |
| lardman | hrw: Rather than my trying to type it all, take a look here at my backtrace(s): http://pcm1.e.ujf-grenoble.fr/XCAS/viewtopic.php?t=59 | 17:39 |
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| hrw | no idea | 17:42 |
| lardman | I think it's choking on an address of 0x10 | 17:44 |
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| lardman | which sounds suspiciously small | 17:44 |
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| zeenix | hey behdad! | 18:01 |
| behdad | hi zeenix | 18:01 |
| zeenix | behdad: i met a guy at FOSDEM which had some farsi string on his shirt which he claimed was written by you. | 18:01 |
| behdad | haha | 18:02 |
| behdad | zeenix: was he Vincent Untz? | 18:02 |
| zeenix | behdad: i could only translate three words but i can only remember one: mehtab (sun) | 18:02 |
| behdad | mahtab is the moonlight of a full moon | 18:02 |
| zeenix | behdad: could be! didn't ask his name :) | 18:02 |
| zeenix | behdad: or was it aftab | 18:02 |
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| behdad | zeenix: was he moving around taking photos of people with a I heart GNOME paper? | 18:03 |
| behdad | man, I wish I could make it to FOSDEM. everybody had so much fun | 18:03 |
| zeenix | i dont remember seeing him doing anything like that | 18:03 |
| behdad | oh! | 18:04 |
| behdad | zeenix: Mirco! | 18:04 |
| zeenix | behdad: yup yup! a least you missed lots of nice food, beer and chocholate :) | 18:04 |
| behdad | the cairo bling guy | 18:04 |
| behdad | so he made a shirt out of his cairo magic | 18:04 |
| zeenix | anyways! what was the complete string? | 18:05 |
| kkito | zeenix, chocholate? | 18:05 |
| zeenix | kkito: chocolate | 18:06 |
| zeenix | kkito: i am not good at spellings | 18:06 |
| kkito | ah :P i dont know if you know what "chocho" means in spanish | 18:08 |
| behdad | zeenix: http://macslow.thepimp.net/?p=102 | 18:09 |
| behdad | zeenix: he thought I translated the phrase. I didn't! | 18:09 |
| zeenix | which phrase? | 18:12 |
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| bipolar | are any of the openedhand devs here? | 18:19 |
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| hrw | bipolar: I'm working with them, but I'm not OH dev. | 18:34 |
| bipolar | hrw: ahh. hiya! | 18:34 |
| bipolar | hrw: I'm wondering if the work on e-eds allows the use of the groupdav plugin. | 18:34 |
| bipolar | hrw: since our groupware server does groupdav, it would be awesome to have it on the handheld :) | 18:35 |
| hrw | no idea | 18:35 |
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| hrw | MDK: alive? | 18:35 |
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| kkito | oh, dbus 1.0.2 doesnt run in arm scratchbox :( | 18:42 |
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| kkito | i build kdelibs4 and kdepim4 yesterday... i dont know if it will run on the n800 :P | 18:47 |
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| bipolar | kkito: very cool :) | 18:51 |
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| kkito | bipolar, :) | 18:53 |
| bipolar | kkito: can I try it out :D | 18:53 |
| hrw | kde and n7700? | 18:53 |
| bipolar | I take it that keyboard input won't work... | 18:53 |
| bipolar | I've got an 800 | 18:54 |
| bipolar | hrw: yea :) | 18:54 |
| bipolar | hrw: kkito is porting qt4 | 18:54 |
| hrw | ah | 18:55 |
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| kkito | bipolar, i think that it is not possible to install kdelib ons the n800, only the libkhtml is more than 35 megas | 19:29 |
| bipolar | kkito: yeah.. thats huge. But I have my root moved to a 2 gig SD card :) | 19:29 |
| hrw | bipolar: think also about needed ram | 19:30 |
| kkito | bipolar, but its is possible to format the sdcard with ext3 ? | 19:30 |
| bipolar | kkito: yep | 19:30 |
| kkito | oh, then i must to do it.... | 19:30 |
| bipolar | kkito: i also have a swap partition on it ;) | 19:30 |
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| bipolar | kkito: just use fdisk on it like any other hard drive. I suguest doing it on the pc as the busybox version of fdisk sucks | 19:31 |
| bipolar | hrw: yeah.. there's only one way to find out though :) | 19:31 |
| hrw | bipolar: yep. | 19:32 |
| hrw | bipolar: are there any docs aout how to replace maemo with something other? | 19:33 |
| bipolar | hrw: I havn't seen any... but it can't be THAT hard... | 19:33 |
| bipolar | But really, the goal would be to get the kde apps on it, not to really run full kde on it. | 19:34 |
| bipolar | although.... | 19:34 |
| bipolar | well, who knows | 19:34 |
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| kkito | if we can run kdelibs ok, we can do a kmaemo :P | 19:36 |
| bipolar | lol | 19:36 |
| bipolar | thats great... | 19:36 |
| shackan | please don't! | 19:36 |
| bipolar | someone set that as part of the topic! | 19:36 |
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| zulla | developer frustration: the things that itch me on the N800 are way too big to scratch. | 20:00 |
| * zulla wishes he was a better low-level developer... | 20:01 | |
| hrw | zulla: things are annoy me on 770 are... | 20:01 |
| zulla | hrw: mostly: slow video playback | 20:02 |
| zulla | hrw: that hardware should be able to play DVD video, reading the specs. | 20:02 |
| hrw | zulla: screen space wasting, lack of personalizations | 20:03 |
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| keesj | kkito: hmm yes 32 mb is big foryet an other toolkit | 20:04 |
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| zulla | hrw: also, I miss an alternative browser. but porting, say, gtk+webcore, epiphany (or even firefox - it has the CPU and RAM) to Maemo isn't something you do over a weekend... | 20:05 |
| kkito | keesj, 32 imb s libkhtml | 20:05 |
| keesj | stripeded and thumbed, that must also eat memory | 20:06 |
| hrw | zulla: port or build? | 20:06 |
| zulla | hrw: port. people claim that hildonizing a Gnome app is easy to do, but that's what I mean with developer frustration: I doubt that it's easy for an app like epiphany... | 20:08 |
| zulla | hrw: ...or firefox. | 20:08 |
| hrw | zulla: truely speaking I would like to get rid of hildon | 20:08 |
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| zulla | hrw: Then port Opie. "Should be easy." | 20:09 |
| hrw | zulla: opie? I want apps not old stuff | 20:10 |
| hrw | zulla: and someone already got opie running on 770 | 20:10 |
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| hrw | zulla: I think rather about something more pda related but it is problem for 770/n800 as it will be degradation of functionality | 20:11 |
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| zulla | hrw: what's your alternative to Hildon/Maemo? So far, I don't see many. | 20:12 |
| _RISC_ | hi all | 20:12 |
| _RISC_ | excuse me in advance for my bad english | 20:12 |
| _RISC_ | i have one question | 20:12 |
| _RISC_ | i try to install scratchbox on fedora 6 | 20:12 |
| _RISC_ | with the binary image | 20:13 |
| _RISC_ | i follow the istruction istallation in scratchbox.org | 20:13 |
| _RISC_ | after istallationstep | 20:13 |
| hrw | zulla: gpe is going into better shape then it was | 20:14 |
| _RISC_ | when i try to connect | 20:14 |
| _RISC_ | i have the follow | 20:14 |
| hrw | zulla: but still no good gui for X11 systems | 20:14 |
| _RISC_ | error | 20:14 |
| _RISC_ | e | 20:14 |
| _RISC_ | /scratchbox/login | 20:14 |
| zulla | hrw: gpe? that site seems just as dead. Last news item one year ago, dead links... | 20:15 |
| _RISC_ | ERROR: Scratchbox is not properly set up! | 20:15 |
| _RISC_ | but i have follow the istallation istructions | 20:15 |
| hrw | zulla: gpe.linuxtogo.org? | 20:15 |
| keesj | _RISC_: try runnint /scratcbox/sbin/sbox_ctl start as root | 20:15 |
| * zulla looked at http://gpe.handhelds.org | 20:16 | |
| hrw | zulla: gpe.handhelds.org is about year old but hh.org admins refuse to take it down | 20:16 |
| keesj | zulla eem? | 20:16 |
| _RISC_ | thanks keesj | 20:16 |
| * florian shoots handhelds.org | 20:16 | |
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| hrw|gone | cu | 20:16 |
| _RISC_ | /scratchbox/sbin/sbox_ctl start Starting Scratchbox: binfmt_misc, mount. | 20:17 |
| _RISC_ | now i must start login? | 20:17 |
| _RISC_ | now when i start login i have a new error: | 20:18 |
| _RISC_ | ERROR: '/opt/scratchbox/sbin/chroot-uid' is not suid ROOT. | 20:18 |
| _RISC_ | why? | 20:18 |
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| keesj | the canola guys also mentioned that they wanted to start using evas | 20:20 |
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| _RISC_ | keesj: i try to start sbox_ctl but now i have a new error | 20:23 |
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| _RISC_ | neverone have istalled scratchbox on fedora core? | 20:26 |
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| _RISC_ | :'( | 20:27 |
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| bergie | hey, anyone know where I can find gconf for pymaemo? | 20:31 |
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| bergie | interesting... | 21:03 |
| bergie | The name com.plazes.maemoplazer was not provided by any .service files | 21:03 |
| bergie | though I'm quite sure it is | 21:03 |
| bergie | # cat /usr/share/dbus-1/services/com.plazes.maemoplazer.service | 21:04 |
| bergie | [D-BUS Service] | 21:04 |
| bergie | Name=com.plazes.maemoplazer | 21:04 |
| bergie | Exec=/usr/bin/maemoplazer | 21:04 |
| bergie | aha, fixed | 21:06 |
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| disq | i'll try to compile firefox1.5 on armel on the n800 | 21:20 |
| disq | <3 chroot | 21:21 |
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| mgedmin | that will be something interesting to see | 21:23 |
| disq | somebody actually did that and posted screenshots | 21:24 |
| * mgedmin checks firefox memory usage on the desktop: currently 198.1 megs of virtual memory (89.6 megs RSS) | 21:24 | |
| disq | but i'm guessing he's using the arm build. which i couldn't get to run | 21:24 |
| mgedmin | oh? that was not firefox though remote X? | 21:24 |
| disq | it was thru X, but a second X on the n800 | 21:24 |
| disq | i actually have that set up | 21:24 |
| disq | there's a debian-armel root image which you extract to mmc and then set up a little chroot | 21:25 |
| _RISC_ | chmod u+s /opt/scratchbox/sbin/chroot-uid | 21:30 |
| _RISC_ | ihave resolved with chmod u+s /opt/scratchbox/sbin/chroot-uid | 21:30 |
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| sbaturzio | Aloha! | 22:24 |
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| mazzen | does the opera browser on the nokia 770 has problem with proxy servers? | 22:49 |
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| keesj | so who want's to test drive xmoto 0.2.5 on the n800?(I have | 22:51 |
| keesj | about 10 minutes) | 22:51 |
| keesj | alright :) | 22:54 |
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| etrunko | keesj: i do | 23:12 |
| etrunko | :) | 23:12 |
| keesj | ok | 23:14 |
| keesj | the best thing would be to add my repository temporarely and run apt-get update apt-get install xmoto | 23:15 |
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| keesj | #maemo:name mud | 23:16 |
| keesj | deb http://box.mmapps.net/~keesj/mud/ bora testing | 23:16 |
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| Pio | got any screens? | 23:19 |
| keesj | I have a movie! | 23:19 |
| Pio | oo | 23:20 |
| keesj | here are some old screens http://wiki.xmoto.free.fr/index.php?title=SDL_gfx and this is the video http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=-5434097291911279996&q=xmoto | 23:21 |
| Pio | what is that profiler you are running in that one screenshot? | 23:23 |
| keesj | kachegrind | 23:24 |
| keesj | it rulez bigtime | 23:24 |
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| user__ | hi all | 23:25 |
| etrunko | keesj: where is libode0 package? | 23:25 |
| keesj | not in there? | 23:27 |
| user__ | one quick question. I'm trying to launch a url rom gaim, but cannot figure out the syntax for /usr/bin/browser I am running 2.2006.51-6...anybody know the correct way to open opera with a given url? | 23:27 |
| etrunko | keesj: nop | 23:28 |
| etrunko | user__: you need a D-Bus call | 23:29 |
| keesj | it is there but perhaps I did something wrong | 23:29 |
| keesj | repository_it2007/libode0-dev_0.5-5_armel.deb | 23:30 |
| etrunko | keesj: its libode0c2 not libode0 | 23:30 |
| etrunko | see http://box.mmapps.net/~keesj/mud/dists/bora/testing/binary-armel/Packages.gz | 23:30 |
| etrunko | no libode0 there | 23:31 |
| keesj | thanks I see that both libode0c2 and libode0 are there | 23:31 |
| etrunko | the package can be there, but it is not in the list | 23:31 |
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| keesj | etrunko: thank I will first remove the files and generate libode again. | 23:35 |
| user__ | oh man, so you can't call the url from the command line? | 23:36 |
| keesj | it is very hard to test such thing on a device used to developer the program | 23:36 |
| Tak | you can make a dbus call from the command line, can't you? | 23:37 |
| user__ | I have no idea | 23:37 |
| user__ | i know osso-xterm advanced from maemo-hackers.org allows you to open a url from the menu | 23:39 |
| etrunko | user__: steal their code then | 23:39 |
| etrunko | :_ | 23:39 |
| etrunko | :) | 23:39 |
| user__ | ok, i'll have to check it out | 23:40 |
| sp3000 | user__: dbus-monitor and launch an url from some other app | 23:40 |
| user__ | i'm not a developer at all, but i can read the source code right? | 23:40 |
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| sp3000 | user__: ...which gives you dbus-send --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.osso_browser /com/nokia/osso_browser com.nokia.osso_browser.load_url string:http://google.com/ | 23:42 |
| Tak | xchat launches displayed urls as well | 23:44 |
| keesj | etrunko: I will not be able to fix the problem right now :( may I ask you to test an oter time? | 23:46 |
| keesj | thanks for testing | 23:46 |
| user__ | you rule, that workedperfectly! | 23:47 |
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| user__ | thanks sp3000, i can confirm that works perfectly in gaim on the N800 | 23:52 |
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| etrunko | keesj: sure | 23:52 |
| sp3000 | np | 23:52 |
| etrunko | anyway, i have to go now | 23:53 |
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| kkito | :) i get kmail running on the n800 ;) | 23:59 |
| kkito | well time ti eat ti eat simething | 23:59 |
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