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| bingo_ | the chess program in the N800 is open source? | 00:02 |
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| jtra | keesj: how do you like xterm with on screen keyboard? | 00:02 |
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| konfoo | so what games are actually worthwhile on the n800 | 00:52 |
| konfoo | anyone done some mini-reviews? ;) | 00:52 |
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| konfoo | (besides scummvm) | 00:52 |
| superbia | the nokia tablet used gtk2 right? | 00:53 |
| Uebli | jepp | 00:54 |
| superbia | that means that pictosniff should be fairly easy to port I guess | 00:55 |
| superbia | if the wifi card works for it ofc | 00:55 |
| konfoo | has anyone compiled ffmpeg for os2007 | 00:58 |
| superbia | bah... ofc it's fbsd code... | 00:59 |
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| konfoo | whats the name of that simple audio player? | 01:07 |
| Tak | is there a way to get a .desktop file on the n800 that sets the sdl wm class but doesn't show in the menu? | 01:22 |
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| Tak | it works for me on os2006... | 01:25 |
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| maddler | superbia: about your question about bricking ITs... beside hardware specific problems... no one until now (at least) ever managed to brick his/her device... | 01:57 |
| |tbb| | heya maddler | 01:57 |
| maddler | |tbb|: heya... :) | 01:57 |
| maddler | |tbb|: yep damn busy! :D | 01:57 |
| |tbb| | anything allright? | 01:58 |
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| superbia | maddler: good to hear :D I found some intresting things I would like to follow up... and if I just can reflash it I don't see why not :) | 02:01 |
| maddler | superbia: yep... a reflash will solve... | 02:04 |
| superbia | maddler: now a lost a few of them.. but I found something that looked like a "real" distro for the n800... and ofc matchbox seems intresting | 02:05 |
| maddler | superbia: nice... nice... let me know if you manage to get something useful out of it... | 02:05 |
| maddler | being able to use window maker on N800 would be kinda nice... | 02:06 |
| superbia | maddler: yeah I will, atm I'm trying to get sratchbox setup so I can have at look at converting some apps | 02:07 |
| superbia | window maker I got already :D | 02:07 |
| superbia | just downloaded a tarball and voila :D | 02:07 |
| maddler | last time I tried I got some problems... | 02:07 |
| maddler | with permissions... | 02:07 |
| superbia | ohh? my only problem is the onscreen keyboard... if you miss a key and hit the fram it disappers.. | 02:08 |
| maddler | and needed to reflash... so I decided to wait until next ITOS release before trying again... | 02:08 |
| maddler | since at that time I'll have to reflash anyway... :D | 02:08 |
| superbia | haha smart move :D | 02:08 |
| maddler | hehe | 02:08 |
| * maddler is encoding "V for Vendetta" | 02:09 | |
| superbia | on linux? | 02:09 |
| maddler | yep... using Jaffa's 770-encode script | 02:10 |
| maddler | the only time when I can find some spare time to whatch a movie is while I'm in bed... | 02:10 |
| maddler | and N800 helps ;) | 02:10 |
| superbia | ahh... I need to get lucky number slevin from vob to dvd or divx in linux... seems to be harder then I thought :P | 02:11 |
| maddler | try dvdrip | 02:11 |
| maddler | nice app | 02:11 |
| |tbb| | does the 770encode script supports a best setting for the n880 ? | 02:12 |
| maddler | superbia: you could use mplayer to encode to mpeg anyway... | 02:12 |
| maddler | |tbb|: I'm using "average" preset right now... I'll tell you in 10 minutes :) | 02:13 |
| superbia | maddler: hehe okay... installing dvdrip now... lets see what it goes for... I got the vobs ripped but I need to get them to a video dvd now... havn't found a app for that | 02:13 |
| maddler | you can use dvdrip's transcode | 02:13 |
| maddler | or as I said use mplayer to convert dvd->mpg | 02:14 |
| superbia | theres not a app for just adding vobs to a video dvd as they are? they are decoded and all... just need to reburn so to say ^ | 02:14 |
| superbia | ^^ | 02:14 |
| maddler | sorry... can't get your question... | 02:15 |
| maddler | you mean rip and then burn on a non protected dvd? | 02:15 |
| superbia | in windows I can just to go nero and tell it to burn a video dvd and tell it where the cracked vobs are on my harddisk... | 02:15 |
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| maddler | oh... yep... use dvdrip for ripping and k3b to burn your dvds...\ | 02:16 |
| superbia | I have nonprotected vobs on my harddisk.. but want to burn them | 02:16 |
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| superbia | okay | 02:16 |
| maddler | k3b is your choice then... :) | 02:16 |
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| maddler | nice app... | 02:16 |
| superbia | checked it out... but it said "No not gotta happen... but a data dvd is fine" :P | 02:16 |
| maddler | great interface... :) | 02:17 |
| maddler | yep... as long as you have the video_ts folder on it... | 02:17 |
| maddler | a data dvd should be fine... | 02:17 |
| maddler | afaik | 02:17 |
| superbia | ohh.. didn't know that... :D | 02:17 |
| superbia | thought a video dvd and data dvd was two diffrent protocols or something | 02:18 |
| maddler | well at least you could try... :D | 02:18 |
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| superbia | true :D | 02:18 |
| superbia | bah... to big for a dvd... need to lower quality... :S | 02:20 |
| maddler | use dvdrip then... it will allow you to only rip main movie... | 02:20 |
| superbia | I got only the main movie | 02:21 |
| superbia | :S | 02:21 |
| superbia | booting my mac now... it has a reencode to fit a dvd function ^^ | 02:21 |
| maddler | as well as compressing,,, | 02:21 |
| superbia | ohh | 02:21 |
| maddler | btw... "average" preset is good enough... | 02:24 |
| maddler | not so fluid... | 02:24 |
| maddler | but good enough to watch a movie while you wait for Orfeo to come... :D | 02:24 |
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| superbia | haha | 02:25 |
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| superbia | big deal to have gbit lan when harddisk can't handle the speeds | 02:30 |
| maddler | :) | 02:35 |
| maddler | I've just bought a couple SATA2 and have to admit the speed isn't bad at all... | 02:35 |
| superbia | no it's nice... but my laptop disk is a little slower... sata2 7200rpm but still slower then 3.5" disks :S | 02:36 |
| dolfun | superbia, correct | 02:38 |
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| dolfun | i need a case of Wolfgang Pucks artichoke heart pizza | 02:39 |
| konfoo | dolfun: good stuff | 02:39 |
| dolfun | the jerk comes from austria and you can't buy his frozen pizza in germany. what is this world coming-to | 02:39 |
| maddler | damn... it's taking more to copy on SD than to encode! | 02:39 |
| dolfun | 7 years i haven't had a puck pizza... it's ... a biblical drought | 02:40 |
| dolfun | heh maddler, should have piped or put on a nokia share | 02:42 |
| maddler | dolfun: yep... only considered that after... | 02:43 |
| maddler | dolfun: if you wanna taste some _real_ pizza... come visit me! :D | 02:45 |
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| dolfun | heh where in italy maddler? | 02:55 |
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| dolfun | offtopicness | 02:57 |
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| maddler | dolfun: Rome... | 02:57 |
| maddler | caput mundi! :D | 02:58 |
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| maddler | damn... still working to copy to SD! | 03:00 |
| maddler | it's about half an hour... | 03:00 |
| dolfun | Tutte le strade conducono a Roma | 03:02 |
| dolfun | lots of italian pizzerias in germany, so i assume one can get fairly authentic italian pizza here | 03:03 |
| dolfun | if you ever go to the USA, try the wolfgang pucks artichoke frozen pizza though... best frozen pizza i have ever had | 03:03 |
| maddler | naaaa... if you want to eat _real_ italian pizza... you have to come here! noway! | 03:05 |
| maddler | everything else is only a copy... | 03:05 |
| maddler | :D | 03:05 |
| superbia | hmm dvdrip is being a bitch... | 03:06 |
| superbia | think it's time for sleep before I do something stupid :P | 03:06 |
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| superbia | well good night | 03:09 |
| maddler | superbia: bye... | 03:09 |
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| maddler | ok... time to hit the bed! | 03:12 |
| maddler | see you all next time... | 03:12 |
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| dolfun | buenos noches maddler | 04:03 |
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| guerby | off to brussels for FOSDEM | 09:03 |
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| keesj | so who can i meet@fosdem? | 09:45 |
| keesj | where are the developer hiding? | 09:46 |
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| cesman | hello hello | 11:11 |
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| Toma- | whats the story with python2.4 packages and -runtime? i cant install maemofuse-gui without python2.4 but its nowhere to be found :/ | 11:19 |
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| manaPirat | hi guys | 11:40 |
| manaPirat | everaldo: hey eve, you' | 11:40 |
| manaPirat | there? | 11:40 |
| everaldo | hey | 11:40 |
| everaldo | manaPirat, Yes, I am... I need sleep, but I am here :) | 11:41 |
| manaPirat | oh then i wont bother you. | 11:41 |
| manaPirat | just a link http://blog.gwright.org.uk/articles/2007/02/18/nx-and-the-nokia-770 | 11:42 |
| everaldo | manaPirat, its ok.. shot | 11:42 |
| everaldo | oh... I see it | 11:42 |
| manaPirat | ;) | 11:42 |
| everaldo | the guys invited me to see the project | 11:42 |
| manaPirat | good. i bothered them on the mailinglist to contact you *rofl* | 11:42 |
| manaPirat | well not exactly .. | 11:43 |
| everaldo | is a gtk client... but uses qt-core libraries | 11:43 |
| manaPirat | so go, get your sleep, its just in the late morning here .. going to slap arround slaxbox | 11:43 |
| everaldo | I am using glib/gtk | 11:44 |
| manaPirat | yes i see that | 11:44 |
| everaldo | hehe | 11:44 |
| everaldo | manaPirat, have I nice day :0 | 11:44 |
| everaldo | :) | 11:44 |
| manaPirat | well different aproaches are a good thing for quality | 11:44 |
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| manaPirat | hehe sleep well | 11:44 |
| everaldo-zzZ | thanks | 11:44 |
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| guerby | anyone at fosdem right now? | 11:58 |
| manaPirat | not me guerby. | 12:04 |
| manaPirat | but i read that goerge wright is there | 12:04 |
| manaPirat | http://blog.gwright.org.uk/ <-- third entry | 12:05 |
| spidergoat | NX client I’m now working on for the 770, | 12:09 |
| spidergoat | \ | 12:09 |
| spidergoat | o/ | 12:09 |
| spidergoat | \p/ | 12:10 |
| manaPirat | eh? | 12:10 |
| spidergoat | </dance> | 12:10 |
| manaPirat | you work on the glib based or on the qtlib based client? | 12:10 |
| guerby | manaPirat, ok listening to X guyes right now | 12:10 |
| manaPirat | why dont we try a third toolkit? :P | 12:10 |
| manaPirat | cool guerby! | 12:11 |
| manaPirat | hmm .. N800 has ca cam, hasn't it? | 12:11 |
| * manaPirat shouts: livestream! | 12:11 | |
| spidergoat | is george wrigt famous manaPirat ? | 12:12 |
| spidergoat | manaPirat, no i do not | 12:12 |
| guerby | manaPirat, ii'm not set up for that... | 12:12 |
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| manaPirat | i dont know spider | 12:18 |
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| manaPirat | i just read it in his bliock. he writes an nxclient port for mameo | 12:18 |
| manaPirat | as everaldo does | 12:18 |
| manaPirat | blick = blog | 12:19 |
| manaPirat | guerby livestreaming i allways an issue at geeky conferences ;) | 12:19 |
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| disq | hi | 13:29 |
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| keesj | guerby: i willl be there at 14.00 | 14:05 |
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| guerby | keesj k ping me here | 14:27 |
| guerby | on irc | 14:27 |
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| superbia | is it possible to change startup sound on the n800 like on the 770? | 14:44 |
| suihkulokki | superbia: ofcourse it is possible | 14:44 |
| suihkulokki | superbia: do you think the sound is burned into the ROM of something? | 14:45 |
| superbia | suihkulokki: why not? it is on many phones... | 14:45 |
| superbia | and the reason I ask is that I have changed the wave file but it doesn't play it... it's just silent now... | 14:46 |
| suihkulokki | superbia: it's a hardlocked cellphone, it's a general purpose linux computer. just follow the trail of starup scripts where the sound is played from. | 14:47 |
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| superbia | suihkulokki: I have done that... I have changed it and it is silent... thats why I asked if it was just to change it like it is on the 770 or if you need some special settings on the file... like 22k 16bit mono etc... | 14:48 |
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| Zmanu | Hello | 14:53 |
| superbia | but then I can assume that the ugly Nokia bootup screen (no not the hands) is not hardcoded either then? | 14:53 |
| superbia | hi :) | 14:53 |
| Zmanu | Is it possible to use scirocco instead of mistral, and is there a doc to make that, i find nothing about this on website | 14:54 |
| Zmanu | On nokia 770 os2006 | 14:54 |
| guerby | keesj are u arund ? | 14:54 |
| superbia | I don't know to much about the tablets... but I would assume you just changed in the /etc/apt/sources.list to scirocco instead and do apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade and it will change it for you.. | 14:55 |
| superbia | thats atleast the debian way ^^ | 14:56 |
| neal | unlikely to work | 14:56 |
| neal | you'll trigger a life guard reset | 14:56 |
| superbia | life guard reset? that sounds evil... | 14:56 |
| Zmanu | What's life guard reset ? | 14:57 |
| superbia | this is why I really want a live debian on it instead of maemo ;P | 14:57 |
| Zmanu | At this time maemo is good for me, i only need to be sure i can update and how do that | 14:58 |
| neal | it's a watch dog which resets the device is an essential component is seen to fail. | 14:59 |
| neal | this includes restarting | 14:59 |
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| superbia | ahh okay... so it stops any changes to dist-upgrades | 14:59 |
| neal | e.g., the desktop | 14:59 |
| Zmanu | neal, so can i update to scirocco or not ? | 15:00 |
| neal | you can reflash | 15:00 |
| neal | but go to gergale | 15:00 |
| neal | I found scirocco particularly bad | 15:00 |
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| Zmanu | Have i need scratbox to do that or i can do that from nokia directly | 15:01 |
| Zmanu | Gergale is not only for n800 ? | 15:01 |
| neal | no. | 15:03 |
| Zmanu | Ok, is there doc that explain how to reflash ? | 15:04 |
| neal | please use google | 15:05 |
| neal | or hire someone | 15:05 |
| Zmanu | Ok ok | 15:05 |
| Zmanu | Thanks for answer | 15:05 |
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| disq | : | 15:13 |
| disq | :) | 15:13 |
| superbia | you can build the rebuild the kernel on the tablets right? | 15:16 |
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| sbaturzio | Aloha! | 15:32 |
| superbia | hello | 15:32 |
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| manaPirat | so you later guys | 15:57 |
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| superbia | is there any gain on using RD-mode on a n800? | 16:10 |
| disq | possibly not | 16:12 |
| superbia | havn't seen any gain from it so far... as root can be attained without it... | 16:12 |
| disq | exactly | 16:13 |
| superbia | just checking the flasher options so see what fun it can do... :) | 16:13 |
| superbia | jffs2 images come in tgz mode... hmm | 16:15 |
| superbia | or ahh... think I got it now | 16:15 |
| superbia | I'm starting to understand more about the maemo system now... but what I can't figure out is how to get that blasted scratchbox installed :P | 16:17 |
| keesj | anybody currrently@fosdem? | 16:18 |
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| disq | keesj: i think so. i was just looking for fosdem2007 pictures | 16:24 |
| disq | erm, photos. | 16:24 |
| keesj | i don't know what they look like | 16:25 |
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| keesj | i saw guerby ! | 16:26 |
| guerby | keesj yep | 16:27 |
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| maddler | re | 17:09 |
| superbia | gah.. girlfriend is playing wow so I am not allowed to download scratchbox so I can fix a typo in a app I download... :S | 17:13 |
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| maddler | coffee time! | 17:33 |
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| c0ffee | \o/ | 17:41 |
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| mlpug | I have a file in Images directory. where an earth is that in filesystem. not in /home/user? nowhere in /media/mmc? | 17:58 |
| c0ffee | MyDocs/.documents/.images or something like this | 17:59 |
| c0ffee | ~/MyDocs even | 17:59 |
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| kender | hello | 18:01 |
| mlpug | c0ffee, tnx. It was MyDocs/.images in this case | 18:02 |
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| rhsanborn | Anyone know if there is an n800 compatible port of unzip? Gunzip can't handle .zip files... | 18:15 |
| kender | yes, there is | 18:16 |
| kender | the same that for the n770 | 18:16 |
| rhsanborn | Somewhere on maemo garage? | 18:17 |
| kender | mm.. | 18:18 |
| kender | I think that it is in the maemo repo | 18:18 |
| kender | but not sure | 18:18 |
| rhsanborn | Checking... | 18:18 |
| rhsanborn | Sweet, found it | 18:19 |
| kender | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/zip-unzip/ | 18:19 |
| kender | http://test.maemo.org/downloads/product/unzip/ | 18:19 |
| kender | great | 18:19 |
| c0ffee | does xmame support super mario land? | 18:20 |
| rhsanborn | It should... | 18:21 |
| c0ffee | hm nice | 18:22 |
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| filip_ | hi people | 18:29 |
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| filip_ | I'm getting annoying error when I want to install ssh in scratchbox | 18:29 |
| filip_ | "/scratchbox/tools/bin/chgrp: changing group of `/usr/bin/ssh-agent': Operation not permitted" | 18:29 |
| filip_ | I didn't find much information on google about it | 18:30 |
| filip_ | Only one hit - some log from this irc channel -> http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2007-01-12.log.html | 18:32 |
| filip_ | some guy with nick jose__ asked about the same thing but didn't recive answer | 18:33 |
| kender | filip_, for what do you want ssh in scratchbox? | 18:36 |
| filip_ | I don't really want ssh, the problem is when I install other packages I get this error | 18:38 |
| filip_ | is it normal? | 18:38 |
| kender | mm.. | 18:39 |
| kender | no idea | 18:39 |
| kender | hehehe | 18:39 |
| kender | I'm going to check if I have the same problem | 18:39 |
| filip_ | thanks :) | 18:39 |
| keesj | ~check if you have enough disk space | 18:40 |
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| kender | Inconsistency detected by ld.so: rtld.c: 1192: dl_main: Assertion `(void *) ph->p_vaddr == _rtld_local._dl_sysinfo_dso' failed! | 18:41 |
| kender | ops | 18:41 |
| kender | hehehe | 18:41 |
| kender | I have updated to feisty | 18:41 |
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| kender | and now it doesn't login | 18:42 |
| filip_ | too bad :-) | 18:42 |
| kender | hehe | 18:43 |
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| Sulis | how do i play the game efp once i've installed it from the application manager | 20:47 |
| Sulis | ? | 20:47 |
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| jeepers | hey folks... | 22:30 |
| jeepers | i am extremely scared. I may have a dead device. | 22:30 |
| Sulis | charge it up | 22:30 |
| Sulis | yup, very important point | 22:31 |
| jeepers | I tried apt-getting last night and it caused my n800 to reboot then it ended up in an infinite reboot loop | 22:31 |
| jeepers | reflashing has not changed this although the flash seemed to work | 22:31 |
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| jeepers | If the device is plugged in it continually flashes the "Nokia" boot screen | 22:33 |
| jeepers | If I unplug it it will flash the screen once when you try to turn it on then it will turn off | 22:34 |
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| jeepers | any ideas would be appreciated... | 22:34 |
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| maddler | jeepers: that's kinda strange... | 22:34 |
| jeepers | maddler: quite | 22:34 |
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| maddler | once reflashed anything you may have done before should have been overriden... | 22:34 |
| jeepers | and all this from an apt-get upgrade | 22:35 |
| kpel | hi all | 22:35 |
| maddler | jeepers: have you tried to reflash again? | 22:35 |
| jeepers | maddler: you mean a second reflash? | 22:35 |
| jeepers | maddler: no, but i will right now | 22:36 |
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| gnuite | Has anyone else experienced weird problems with dialog boxes that initially have the focus on a GtkEntry and are then destroyed (the dialog is destroyed, that is, with gtk_widget_destroy)? | 22:37 |
| jeepers | maddler: when flashing it all looks good. the screen stays stable. the progress bar moves ok. then when it finishes, the screen does this weird degradation thing and then the flashing "Nokia" screen starts anew | 22:38 |
| jeepers | maybe i'll just ask again tomorrow when some of the other folks are more attentive. i'm at a loss. | 22:39 |
| maddler | jeepers: really no idea... | 22:43 |
| maddler | jeepers: never heard of anything like that... | 22:43 |
| maddler | gnuite: no... nothing... | 22:44 |
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| jeepers | maddler: no problem... it's either dead or not... i'll see if anyone has any idea tomorrow | 22:52 |
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| jeepers | new news... just for completeness sake... if i hold down the middle button on the toggle and the top button in the menu button stack then the "Nokia" screen freezes for a while but then the flashing restarts | 23:02 |
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| jeepers | ok... maybe not. it was unrepeatable | 23:04 |
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| guerby | gnuite, there are a few things about GtkEntry there http://maemo.org/maemowiki/MaemoGtk26Rationales | 23:53 |
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