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| pa | has anybody tried rawcam on n9? | 01:54 |
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| pa | i have rzr repos enabled, and it kinda conflicts with a rawcam package that is in there | 01:55 |
| djszapi_ | huh ? | 02:03 |
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| pa | yep.. | 02:04 |
| beford | isn't it the same package? | 02:05 |
| djszapi_ | yep what? | 02:05 |
| beford | from the same author I mean | 02:05 |
| djszapi_ | your claim does not make too much sense to be honest. | 02:05 |
| pa | well what happens is : i installed rawcam 0.0.8 from tmo | 02:05 |
| pa | software update pops up, with a rawcam update | 02:05 |
| pa | and wants me to install rawcam0.0.2xxxxx-rzrsomething | 02:05 |
| pa | i did | 02:06 |
| pa | and it doesnt start anymore | 02:06 |
| pa | so i had to revert | 02:06 |
| djszapi_ | no clue what you are talking about... | 02:06 |
| beford | oh, well I guess its not the same | 02:06 |
| pa | so they conflict | 02:06 |
| beford | 0.0.8 should be newer than 0.0.2 | 02:07 |
| pa | i guess i should ask rzr | 02:07 |
| beford | so it shouldn't offer an upgrade | 02:07 |
| djszapi_ | I guess you make clear what you are actually doing | 02:07 |
| djszapi_ | rzr will not have a magic ball. | 02:07 |
| djszapi_ | he is not a mind reader either | 02:07 |
| pa | djszapi_, i said. | 02:07 |
| djszapi_ | vagueeeeeeeeee | 02:07 |
| djszapi_ | who cares about tmo? | 02:07 |
| djszapi_ | if one wanna mess up the system he can | 02:07 |
| djszapi_ | we cannot defend against stupid messings. | 02:08 |
| pa | :) | 02:08 |
| djszapi_ | also, not sure what "software update pops up". | 02:08 |
| djszapi_ | it usually pops for system softwares or ovi packages. | 02:08 |
| djszapi_ | so you should better take a breat | 02:08 |
| djszapi_ | h | 02:08 |
| djszapi_ | and try to collect what you are doing. | 02:08 |
| djszapi_ | and then describe. | 02:08 |
| pa | yes, system soft, coz, as i said, i added rzr repos | 02:09 |
| pa | but oh well, it's not urgent | 02:10 |
| pa | so no worries | 02:10 |
| pa | djszapi_, i'll rather bug you soon about qml plugins :) | 02:10 |
| pa | now i should probably get to bed.. night! | 02:11 |
| djszapi_ | I think you are confused | 02:12 |
| djszapi_ | and you do not know what you are doing | 02:12 |
| djszapi_ | or you cannot describe | 02:12 |
| djszapi_ | also, it is not rzr's repo | 02:12 |
| djszapi_ | how many times will we need to say this again, again, and again? | 02:12 |
| djszapi_ | it is the community repository. | 02:12 |
| djszapi_ | that currently me and rzr are maintaining. | 02:12 |
| djszapi_ | and what you describe really do not make sense. | 02:13 |
| djszapi_ | you will not get update without ovi or system software. | 02:13 |
| djszapi_ | rawcam is definitely not system software | 02:13 |
| djszapi_ | and tmo is not ovi either. | 02:17 |
| ZogG_ | pa, it's coz of version numbering conflict | 02:18 |
| ZogG_ | pa, and not all apps on rzr repo passed manual testings | 02:18 |
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| djszapi_ | all apps passed the manual testing | 02:20 |
| djszapi_ | (of course) | 02:20 |
| beford | its not rzr repo :@:@ | 02:22 |
| beford | xD | 02:22 |
| beford | ZogG_: i'm thinking about making the QML client ui more similar to the Web one | 02:23 |
| beford | what do you think about it? | 02:23 |
| ZogG_ | djszapi_, rawcam wasn't build right, iwas one who helped to make proper build and no they didn't pass testing | 02:24 |
| djszapi_ | yes, they did. | 02:25 |
| djszapi_ | I do install application for testings. | 02:26 |
| djszapi_ | too bad if you have a bogus environment where it is a problem, but not in mine. | 02:26 |
| djszapi_ | please do not claim things about the repository you do not know how it works. | 02:26 |
| djszapi_ | also no package comes in without proper build. | 02:26 |
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| djszapi_ | that is the whole point of the clean c-obs. | 02:27 |
| djszapi_ | especially now with our quality level for testing and unstable. | 02:27 |
| ZogG_ | djszapi_, and if i prove you are worng | 02:31 |
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| ZogG_ | oh i can't you update the package :P | 02:33 |
| ZogG_ | and half of apps from repo are missing | 02:33 |
| ZogG_ | because i remember it had my app | 02:34 |
| ZogG_ | wich was broken | 02:34 |
| ZogG_ | beford, sup dude | 02:35 |
| ZogG_ | beford, do i have bad attitude and not thankful? | 02:35 |
| beford | about what | 02:35 |
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| djszapi_ | M4rtinK2: hey, have you received any responses for the gtk software? | 02:36 |
| ZogG_ | beford, in general | 02:40 |
| beford | no | 02:40 |
| ZogG_ | M4rtinK2, sup | 02:40 |
| ZogG_ | M4rtinK2, where is M4rtinK1? | 02:40 |
| ZogG_ | beford, ok, thanks :P | 02:40 |
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| ZogG_ | beford, i was told i'm disrespectful | 02:42 |
| M4rtinK2 | djszapi_: nope, nothing | 02:42 |
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| beford | where? tmo? | 02:43 |
| M4rtinK2 | after they asked about why are we building bonobo | 02:43 |
| M4rtinK2 | they returned to their previous conversation topic | 02:43 |
| djszapi_ | beford: me | 02:43 |
| djszapi_ | beford: I helped ZogG_ in the past a lot of times without saying any thank you. | 02:43 |
| djszapi_ | and the log proves that well. | 02:44 |
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| djszapi_ | and he tried to say I never helped him. | 02:44 |
| ZogG_ | beford, ^ | 02:44 |
| M4rtinK2 | anyway, time to sleep :) | 02:44 |
| M4rtinK2 | nite :) | 02:44 |
| ZogG_ | :P | 02:44 |
| djszapi_ | M4rtinK2: that is not their topic. | 02:44 |
| djszapi_ | M4rtinK2: it is not their scope. | 02:44 |
| djszapi_ | it is irrelevant to the gtk question. | 02:44 |
| ZogG_ | and i said "maybe few times with qml" | 02:45 |
| djszapi_ | not to mention, he got help on other channels as well | 02:45 |
| djszapi_ | he was mostly arguing with the helper. | 02:45 |
| beford | i've asked for help on qml on several channels and never got any answer | 02:45 |
| beford | so you were lucky | 02:46 |
| ZogG_ | but yes he helped me once or twice not qml related simple questions as well (where actually i got other help/solved other way) and than i didn't say thank for him in few lines conversation. so i'm not greatful person :P | 02:46 |
| djszapi_ | 1-2 times? | 02:46 |
| djszapi_ | and the log is a liar? | 02:46 |
| ZogG_ | read again | 02:46 |
| djszapi_ | let us post it here then | 02:46 |
| ZogG_ | okay :P | 02:47 |
| beford | heh | 02:47 |
| ZogG_ | beford, i let people make fools of themselves :P | 02:47 |
| djszapi_ | http://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/%23harmattan.2012-09-10.log.html#t2012-09-10T18:50:17 -> this is not any relevant to qml | 02:48 |
| djszapi_ | and a recent happening | 02:48 |
| beford | you didn't answer my question, do you think a UI similar to the webui would be ok ZogG_? | 02:48 |
| djszapi_ | after a LOT of poking to help him and reply. | 02:48 |
| ZogG_ | beford, not really | 02:48 |
| djszapi_ | he even poked me on gtalk... | 02:48 |
| ZogG_ | it was made for big screens | 02:48 |
| beford | the mobile ui | 02:48 |
| beford | the one on the screenshots | 02:48 |
| ZogG_ | it's shitty | 02:49 |
| ZogG_ | i used it and thant's why i asked for client | 02:49 |
| ZogG_ | i think your ones is good | 02:49 |
| beford | but I mean the toolbar at the top? being able to stop/resume on the same list with the top buttons | 02:50 |
| djszapi_ | another non-qml from the near past: http://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/%23harmattan.2012-08-30.log.html#t2012-08-30T12:11:16 | 02:50 |
| ZogG_ | beford, u can d it | 02:50 |
| ZogG_ | with bottom menu | 02:50 |
| beford | http://db.tt/BUM7CpGc <- like that but with QML :P | 02:50 |
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| ZogG_ | or u can make if you click on torrent it would add buttons above torrent | 02:50 |
| ZogG_ | below i mean | 02:50 |
| ZogG_ | djszapi_, so i asked you who is this person and you find it help? | 02:51 |
| ZogG_ | maybe i need to bow for you everytime i talk to you? | 02:51 |
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| djszapi_ | http://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/%23harmattan.2012-02-23.log.html#t2012-02-23T09:08:06 -> another totally irrelevant to qml | 02:53 |
| beford | I want to be a Qt ambassador | 02:54 |
| djszapi_ | ZogG_: you do not really see other people say thank you when they get help? | 02:54 |
| djszapi_ | beford: hmm, perhaps a bit late. | 02:54 |
| beford | damn | 02:54 |
| djszapi_ | iirc quim, maria, and knut are mostly gone. | 02:55 |
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| beford | yea quim is gone | 02:55 |
| djszapi_ | not sure if anybody handles that anymore | 02:55 |
| djszapi_ | but you can ask. | 02:55 |
| beford | was that one of the things he handled? | 02:55 |
| ZogG_ | djszapi_, second one is about you telling me about votes? | 02:55 |
| djszapi_ | we also got an obsolete Symbian last year. | 02:55 |
| djszapi_ | beford: it was handled by a marketing woman from Oslo. | 02:55 |
| djszapi_ | and recently by Knut Yrvin. | 02:55 |
| ZogG_ | beford, thank him now, he helped you | 02:56 |
| ZogG_ | :P | 02:56 |
| beford | :P | 02:56 |
| ZogG_ | you wanted to be ambasador and he posted info in the conversation, you got heped :P | 02:56 |
| beford | thanks djszapi_ for giving me no hope :< | 02:56 |
| ZogG_ | we need this TV show | 02:57 |
| ZogG_ | you got helped :P | 02:57 |
| beford | well I expect Digia continues the program | 02:57 |
| ZogG_ | beford, there is wiki on Qt project sit | 02:58 |
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| ZogG_ | how to become and what to do | 02:58 |
| ZogG_ | try it | 02:58 |
| djszapi_ | http://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/%23harmattan.2012-01-31.log.html#t2012-01-31T21:09:49 -> another | 02:59 |
| djszapi_ | but I will stop posting all the zillion instances. | 02:59 |
| djszapi_ | the log is there, anybody can check. | 02:59 |
| djszapi_ | it is not just about not saying thank you which is a natural habit from people. | 03:00 |
| djszapi_ | it is also about denying I ever helped you as you claimed. | 03:00 |
| djszapi_ | beford: why would you become a Qt Ambassador btw? | 03:00 |
| ZogG_ | lol | 03:01 |
| ZogG_ | still don't see it :P | 03:01 |
| djszapi_ | ZogG_: btw, not just gtalk ignore, but here now as well | 03:02 |
| ZogG_ | you actually did help me but all the links you paste are not relevant | 03:02 |
| ZogG_ | ignore me everywhere | 03:02 |
| ZogG_ | on gtalk you added me :P | 03:02 |
| djszapi_ | beford: I think I finally fixed the orientation issue for the qtquick2 examples. | 03:03 |
| ZogG_ | ok | 03:03 |
| ZogG_ | thank to everyone who ever hightlighted me here or talked to me for you time, i need to go and i would say thanks in advance :P | 03:04 |
| djszapi_ | oh yeah, and ZogG_ of course also tried to explain to use what the topic is supposed to be in #qt-qnx :) | 03:04 |
| djszapi_ | to us* | 03:04 |
| djszapi_ | when we said it is off-topic, he said it is not. :) | 03:04 |
| djszapi_ | no matter he got help and went off-topic. | 03:04 |
| ZogG_ | lol | 03:05 |
| ZogG_ | yeah i did :P | 03:05 |
| ZogG_ | djszapi_, you talking offtopic now here. | 03:05 |
| ZogG_ | :P | 03:05 |
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| beford | djszapi_: do you want me to reinstall it? | 03:11 |
| djszapi_ | beford: not yet because I will still have a beefy fight with c-obs. :) | 03:12 |
| djszapi_ | I have just had few patches in qt5, and all of them got integrated. | 03:12 |
| djszapi_ | the problem was that the meego context plugin was not built. | 03:12 |
| djszapi_ | in qtbase, means unfortunately the qt5 stack has to be rebuilt on c-obs which is at least half a day job for the c-obs if everything goes right. :/ | 03:13 |
| djszapi_ | so perhaps in 12 hours or so. | 03:13 |
| djszapi_ | beford: the touch input issue weird, but cannot be reproduced in a helloqt5 application, so that is probably just an example bug. | 03:16 |
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| beford | I see, all those warnings are probably related | 03:20 |
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| djszapi_ | beford: oh btw, and there is no need for LD_LIBRARY_PATH, not QML_IMPORT_PATH. | 03:32 |
| djszapi_ | that is a great achievement in my opinion. | 03:32 |
| djszapi_ | so you can just run your binary without specifying /opt/qt5/ | 03:33 |
| djszapi_ | I think that is quite handy. | 03:33 |
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| beford | mm | 09:21 |
| * vladest shocked. raspberry pi delivery 14 weeks | 09:27 | |
| djszapi_ | vladest1: you mean for ordering? | 09:28 |
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| vladest | djszapi_: yep | 09:32 |
| djszapi_ | vladest: that is not that bad | 09:34 |
| djszapi_ | 3.5 months | 09:34 |
| djszapi_ | my friend waited 5-6 :D | 09:35 |
| vladest | ordered 3 weeks ago. thought it was 13 days, but now rechecked and realized it 14 weeks! | 09:35 |
| beford | djszapi_: if an app crashes several times the phone will reboot? | 09:35 |
| djszapi_ | beford: why this question? | 09:35 |
| beford | well my phone just rebooted itself | 09:36 |
| beford | .P | 09:36 |
| beford | :P | 09:36 |
| djszapi_ | heh | 09:36 |
| djszapi_ | weird | 09:36 |
| djszapi_ | vladest: looks like you are playing with many platforms :D | 09:36 |
| beford | and my app is crashing so I thought it was related | 09:37 |
| vladest | djszapi_: yep. stuck with embedded. at work I'm working with Atheros SoC | 09:37 |
| djszapi_ | :) | 09:38 |
| djszapi_ | yeah, I am also an embedded guy | 09:38 |
| djszapi_ | + windows | 09:38 |
| djszapi_ | I leave linux desktop to others since there are many people for that in KDE. | 09:38 |
| vladest | my previous project was desktop win+macosx | 09:39 |
| vladest | dj software | 09:39 |
| vladest | qt+qml | 09:39 |
| djszapi_ | I have never played macosx sadly. | 09:39 |
| vladest | lucky you :) | 09:40 |
| djszapi_ | with* | 09:41 |
| djszapi_ | I would love to. | 09:41 |
| vladest | and before that it was Flex OS on Freescale coldfire | 09:42 |
| djszapi_ | I was thinking of porting qt to sysbios | 09:42 |
| djszapi_ | to this texas instrument os we use for texas instrument cores. | 09:42 |
| vladest | hmm. never heard | 09:43 |
| djszapi_ | but I did not get budget for that yet | 09:43 |
| djszapi_ | I am busy with other algorithms. | 09:43 |
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| * djszapi_ hates c-obs | 09:53 | |
| djszapi_ | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=qt5-base&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard -> qt5-base~20120914... built few hours ago | 09:53 |
| djszapi_ | but did not get distributed at all | 09:53 |
| djszapi_ | still the qt5-base~beta1 is in the repository. | 09:53 |
| djszapi_ | very weird. :/ | 09:53 |
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| pa | is the bootloader of harmattan in some disk area that is not accessible via standard /dev/sdx? | 12:03 |
| Aard | yes | 12:03 |
| pa | ah okay, thanks :) | 12:03 |
| djszapi_ | pa: isn't that logical? | 12:04 |
| djszapi_ | you do not have to have a partitioned disk of course to be able to boot a partitioner... | 12:04 |
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| pa | yep | 12:05 |
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| djszapi_ | vladest: it is a real time os for texas instrument socs | 12:08 |
| djszapi_ | davinci, etc. | 12:08 |
| djszapi_ | the only big problem with that, is it does not have gpu support. :/ | 12:08 |
| pa | so, another thing: i would like to import a plugin that is in /opt/somedir/someotherdir/ , which also contain a qmldir file. I tried to do it by first adding the path to the import path (QDeclarativeEngine::addImportPath()), and then by importing the plugin named in the qmldir file, in qml | 12:14 |
| pa | but it doesnt seem to work | 12:14 |
| djszapi_ | huh, that is a very dirty hack... | 12:14 |
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| djszapi_ | and apparently not working... | 12:14 |
| djszapi_ | there is QML_IMPORT_PATH for a reason, BUT | 12:14 |
| djszapi_ | 1) It depends on which Qt version you use | 12:15 |
| djszapi_ | 2) More importantly, you should just use rpath, and be done. | 12:15 |
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| pa | what do you mean rpath? what is it? :) | 12:21 |
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| ZogG_laptop | morning :P | 13:51 |
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| pa | 'morning | 14:00 |
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| djszapi_ | cannot remove file on c-obs now... sigh | 14:48 |
| djszapi_ | wonderful c-obs again blocks the packaging.. | 14:49 |
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| rashm2k | how I set a white busyindicator?? | 15:01 |
| djszapi_ | invert the theme... | 15:03 |
| rashm2k | how? | 15:04 |
| djszapi_ | read the documentation | 15:05 |
| djszapi_ | it is well written. | 15:05 |
| rashm2k | my backgrounds are already dark | 15:05 |
| rashm2k | so i dont need to invert theme | 15:05 |
| rashm2k | Can I do it without inverting? | 15:06 |
| djszapi_ | sorry, but you lost me | 15:07 |
| rashm2k | I want I white busy indicator without inverting theme | 15:09 |
| djszapi_ | good luck to that | 15:10 |
| djszapi_ | rashm2k: please let me know after 2 days you asked this tons of times, and ended up what I suggested | 15:16 |
| djszapi_ | enjoy the asking in the meantime what you could already nicely solve. :D | 15:17 |
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| rashm2k | i done it! | 15:19 |
| rashm2k | set busyindicator style | 15:19 |
| rashm2k | spinnerFrames to | 15:20 |
| djszapi_ | you should really read the documentation first, and then ask. :D | 15:20 |
| rashm2k | "image://theme/spinnerinverted" | 15:20 |
| djszapi_ | it is in there on a not too long page. | 15:20 |
| rashm2k | the docs were confusing | 15:20 |
| djszapi_ | huh? | 15:21 |
| rashm2k | I only figured this out by looking at the sourcecode for BudyIndicator | 15:21 |
| djszapi_ | by not teleporting the knowledge into your mind? | 15:21 |
| djszapi_ | spinnerFrames : string | 15:21 |
| djszapi_ | Property default value: "image://theme/spinner"+__invertedString | 15:21 |
| djszapi_ | Image name prefix. This will be used to show the busy indicator frames. For custom busy indicator image filename must be in next format: spinnerFrames + "_" + busy indicator width + "_" + index. | 15:21 |
| djszapi_ | right in the documentation... | 15:22 |
| djszapi_ | in a fairly short page... | 15:22 |
| djszapi_ | anybody having time to help with the portaudio update? | 15:25 |
| pa | ok, this is probably a stupid question because i didnt understand much how it works, but how can i create a qml-networkinfo item that as mode has "data over cellular network"? essentially i want to know if the cellular internet connection is on or off | 15:32 |
| pa | with WlanMode it works fine, for wlan | 15:32 |
| djszapi_ | pa: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/platform-api-reference/showdoc.php?pkn=libcellular-qt&wb=daily-docs&url=Li94bWwvZGFpbHktZG9jcy9saWJjZWxsdWxhci1xdA%3D%3D | 15:36 |
| djszapi_ | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/platform-api-reference/showdoc.php?pkn=libcellular-qt&wb=daily-docs&url=Li94bWwvZGFpbHktZG9jcy9saWJjZWxsdWxhci1xdA%3D%3D | 15:36 |
| djszapi_ | this would be my best bet. | 15:36 |
| pa | thanks! | 15:36 |
| djszapi_ | unsure if that works though, but I could not mention a better place for this than either dbus calls or libcellular-qt | 15:38 |
| rashm2k | Appreciate you bearing with me though - sometimes I do ask really easy questions | 15:40 |
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| djszapi_ | rashm2k: feel free to send patches to me about documentation | 15:41 |
| djszapi_ | I do not know how to make it better, but if you have I will integrate if makes sense. | 15:41 |
| djszapi_ | any ideas* | 15:42 |
| pa | i think the best way to check if connectivity is on is after all ping | 15:51 |
| djszapi_ | I do not think so... | 15:52 |
| djszapi_ | cellular-qt exists for this very reason. | 15:52 |
| djszapi_ | if it is incomplete for whatever reason, the relevant class can still be subclassed. | 15:52 |
| djszapi_ | also, ping will really not help. | 15:53 |
| djszapi_ | since any other network can be under operation anyways. | 15:53 |
| pa | yes | 15:53 |
| pa | what i want is checking if there is connectivity or not | 15:53 |
| djszapi_ | why not use the API designed for this? | 15:53 |
| pa | is there one? | 15:54 |
| pa | i didnt know.. | 15:54 |
| djszapi_ | have you checked the link above? | 15:55 |
| pa | i yes | 15:55 |
| pa | thats for libcellular | 15:55 |
| djszapi_ | so all fine | 15:55 |
| pa | as you point out, there can be other connectivity types enabled | 15:55 |
| djszapi_ | you need to check cellular functionality. | 15:55 |
| djszapi_ | you were asking about cellular! | 15:55 |
| pa | pa> what i want is checking if there is connectivity or not | 15:55 |
| djszapi_ | 13:32 < pa> ok, this is probably a stupid question because i didnt understand much how it works, but how can i create a qml-networkinfo item that as mode has "data over cellular network"? essentially i want to know if the cellular internet connection is on or off | 15:56 |
| djszapi_ | you mean I wasted my time because you did not know what you wanted? :/ | 15:56 |
| pa | well okay, i was not specific enough :) | 15:56 |
| djszapi_ | well good luck | 15:56 |
| djszapi_ | perhaps you are not this time either | 15:56 |
| pa | i'll go with ping, i think | 15:57 |
| djszapi_ | please if you ask next time think more what you want. | 15:57 |
| djszapi_ | otherwise it is time waste for both of us. | 15:57 |
| djszapi_ | I can help if you know what you want. | 15:57 |
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| pa | well i want to test if the phone has any kind of internet access | 16:00 |
| pa | (already enabled and turned on) | 16:00 |
| djszapi_ | yes, you wanna know this | 16:01 |
| djszapi_ | let us see in 10 minutes :D | 16:01 |
| pa | :) | 16:01 |
| djszapi_ | so good luck | 16:01 |
| djszapi_ | I will not investigate again. | 16:01 |
| pa | alirght | 16:03 |
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| djszapi_ | pa: there is an internet connectivity library anyway | 16:08 |
| djszapi_ | should not be hard | 16:08 |
| djszapi_ | read the documentation. | 16:08 |
| pa | i found qnetworkconfigurationmanager, but i read it doesnt do what one think it does.. now i check other options | 16:10 |
| pa | in general it will be anyway a very suboptmal workaround to qml map element, that demand connectivity all the time | 16:11 |
| pa | (and which will nerver be fixed on harmattan) | 16:11 |
| djszapi_ | I do not understand the problem with the aforementioned class. | 16:11 |
| djszapi_ | it seems to do what it was supposed to do | 16:12 |
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| djszapi_ | it manages the network configuration | 16:12 |
| djszapi_ | unsure what you mean by "what one think it does". | 16:12 |
| djszapi_ | also unsure what you said afterwards. | 16:12 |
| pa | it has a method isOnline() that migbht return false, even if there is an active network connection, because it seems it checks if there is some ongoing connection between two hosts | 16:13 |
| djszapi_ | nor about workaround, nor about what will not be fixed. | 16:13 |
| djszapi_ | I do not understand the problem? | 16:14 |
| pa | at least this is what others reported | 16:14 |
| djszapi_ | "Returns true if the system is considered to be connected to another device via an active network interface; otherwise returns false. | 16:14 |
| djszapi_ | " | 16:14 |
| djszapi_ | to me that short description looks clear. | 16:14 |
| djszapi_ | what it does. | 16:14 |
| pa | i can try again | 16:14 |
| pa | let see | 16:14 |
| djszapi_ | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=portaudio19&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard -> anybody having any ideas for this? | 16:17 |
| djszapi_ | works fine locally. | 16:17 |
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| pa | e-yes, hello. how comes no updates on NITDroid N9 status page since Jul 04? :) | 16:21 |
| e-yes | pa, hi. I'm too lazy/busy to update | 16:28 |
| pa | ah okay :) | 16:29 |
| djszapi_ | anybody having a device at hand for testing? | 16:42 |
| valdur55 | yea. give a shoot' | 16:42 |
| djszapi_ | valdur55: do you have the community repository added according to the description? | 16:43 |
| djszapi_ | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan -> see description | 16:43 |
| djszapi_ | apt-get update && apt-get install qt5-base | 16:43 |
| valdur55 | ok . i update my package list now | 16:46 |
| valdur55 | Downloading | 16:47 |
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| valdur55 | Ok. Installed | 16:57 |
| djszapi_ | valdur55: can you check if the package installs this file for you? /opt/qt5/plugins/generic/libqmeegointegration.so | 16:58 |
| valdur55 | Yep. It is there | 16:58 |
| valdur55 | djszapi_, ^ | 16:59 |
| djszapi_ | nice :) | 17:00 |
| djszapi_ | thanks. | 17:00 |
| valdur55 | and that is all ? :D | 17:01 |
| djszapi_ | yep | 17:01 |
| valdur55 | ok. No problem :) | 17:03 |
| djszapi_ | I will ask another test for the qt5 example once c-obs builds the stack | 17:04 |
| djszapi_ | may be by tomorrow. | 17:04 |
| valdur55 | ok | 17:05 |
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| djszapi_ | valdur55: now you could install the qt5-components package, please? (after an update) | 19:22 |
| valdur55 | djszapi_, ok | 19:23 |
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| faenil | test | 19:25 |
| valdur55 | djszapi_, ok? http://pastebin.com/x0GDiCMm | 19:25 |
| valdur55 | anyway... downloading and installing :P | 19:26 |
| valdur55 | djszapi_, installed. Log: http://pastebin.com/UZmhx8za | 19:28 |
| djszapi_ | faenil: please spam a test channel XD | 19:28 |
| djszapi_ | valdur55: can you run the /opt/qt5/bin/QmlComponentGallery binary or how it is called? | 19:29 |
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| djszapi_ | valdur55: yes, the log is fine. | 19:30 |
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| djszapi_ | did not know you are Finnish though. :-) | 19:30 |
| valdur55 | Yes. And output : qrc:/main.qml:42:1: plugin cannot be loaded for module "com.nokia.meego": Module namespace 'MeegoPlugin' does not match import URI 'com.nokia.meego' | 19:30 |
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| valdur55 | djszapi_, i live in Estonia | 19:31 |
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| djszapi_ | valdur55: ah yeah, those languages resemble... | 19:32 |
| djszapi_ | been there for aKademy by the way. | 19:32 |
| djszapi_ | in Tallinn. | 19:32 |
| valdur55 | i was volunteer :) | 19:32 |
| djszapi_ | great :) | 19:32 |
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| djszapi_ | valdur55: we had this talk over there: http://files.kde.org/akademy/2012/videos/Flexible_Education_with_KDE_-_Laszlo_Papp_and_Aleix_Pol_Gonzalez.m4v | 19:33 |
| djszapi_ | valdur55: so it would be nice if you could test the orientation change with the example. | 19:33 |
| djszapi_ | if it rotates automatically. | 19:33 |
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| valdur55 | djszapi_, look my error. plugin cannot be loaded ... | 19:34 |
| djszapi_ | valdur55: that is expected. | 19:35 |
| djszapi_ | so you are getting a white screen now? | 19:35 |
| valdur55 | yes | 19:35 |
| djszapi_ | I would suggest run a sed | 19:35 |
| djszapi_ | on the binary | 19:35 |
| djszapi_ | s/com.nokia.meego/MeegoPlugin/ | 19:35 |
| djszapi_ | jpnurmi: ping | 19:38 |
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| jpnurmi | djszapi_: pong | 19:40 |
| djszapi_ | jpnurmi: https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-26551 | 19:41 |
| djszapi_ | I have ported the harmattan components to that idea with this patch: https://qt.gitorious.org/+harmattan/qt-components/harmattan-qt-components/commit/051ed640f80b9c5c739f60d3f1cbb5a5a37a459c | 19:41 |
| djszapi_ | but the problem is that I do not yet know which schema to use | 19:41 |
| djszapi_ | import FooBar or import foo.bar.plugin, etc | 19:41 |
| djszapi_ | I would need to stick with one of those. | 19:42 |
| djszapi_ | I personally prefer the FooBar schema. | 19:42 |
| djszapi_ | and that is also how I read the bugreport and gerrit change. | 19:42 |
| djszapi_ | However initially it was com.nokia.meego for the qmldirs. | 19:42 |
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| jpnurmi | i like the FooBar schema more as well | 19:45 |
| djszapi_ | fit better to import QtQuick and so forth as another advantage. | 19:50 |
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| djszapi_ | this is also what the desktop components project uses: module QtDesktop | 19:53 |
| jesuschrist_ | hey | 19:53 |
| djszapi_ | in the qt5 branch, so I think it is safe to stick with that schema. | 19:53 |
| djszapi_ | valdur55: I will fix it now then, and I will let you know when updated. | 19:54 |
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| beford | holap` | 19:57 |
| jpnurmi | djszapi_: yeah, and QtWebKit, QtSensors, QtSystemInfo... | 19:57 |
| djszapi_ | jpnurmi: sounds good | 19:58 |
| djszapi_ | jpnurmi: one metric to consider still is that if this should be MeegoPlugin or HarmattanPlugin | 19:58 |
| djszapi_ | or perhaps even QtMeego or QtHarmattan | 19:58 |
| djszapi_ | this is now only supposed for harmattan | 19:59 |
| djszapi_ | but perhaps we can just keep the meego term. | 19:59 |
| djszapi_ | since it was written for meego in qt4 | 19:59 |
| djszapi_ | before my fork | 19:59 |
| jpnurmi | or something like QtQuickComponents.xxx ? | 19:59 |
| jpnurmi | just throwing in ideas :) | 19:59 |
| djszapi_ | that is good :) | 20:00 |
| djszapi_ | the symbian components will not be ported to qtquick2 | 20:00 |
| djszapi_ | that is for sure | 20:00 |
| djszapi_ | since qt5 itself dropped the symbian support | 20:00 |
| djszapi_ | so it is mostly a matter for harmattan/meego and desktop | 20:00 |
| djszapi_ | as of now, at least. | 20:01 |
| djszapi_ | but I agree about that QtDesktop is a bit vague | 20:01 |
| djszapi_ | since it does not refer to that it is the qtquick components. | 20:01 |
| djszapi_ | it could be any other qt desktop scope :) | 20:01 |
| djszapi_ | I will go for something now, and it can be fine tuned later. | 20:03 |
| djszapi_ | it is mostly a find -exec sed command to replace everywhere for clients. | 20:03 |
| valdur55 | sed -i 's/com.nokia.meego/MeegoPlugin/g' QmlComponentGallery :P | 20:04 |
| valdur55 | Gives seg fault... | 20:05 |
| djszapi_ | valdur55: then just relax, and I will assert. :D | 20:06 |
| valdur55 | :) | 20:14 |
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| ZogG_laptop | beford, sup | 20:44 |
| beford | hi | 20:57 |
| ZogG_laptop | how ya doing? | 20:58 |
| ZogG_laptop | i finished school project | 20:58 |
| beford | good :D | 20:58 |
| beford | how did it go | 20:58 |
| ZogG_laptop | it's shitty code but sent it as it is :P | 20:58 |
| ZogG_laptop | it worked | 20:58 |
| ZogG_laptop | i hope it worked | 20:58 |
| beford | ZogG_laptop: oh you want to see the changes I did t othe ui? | 20:58 |
| beford | to the* | 20:58 |
| ZogG_laptop | wgy not | 20:58 |
| ZogG_laptop | btw did u fix active only bug? | 20:59 |
| beford | no but I think I know why it happens now | 21:00 |
| ZogG_laptop | i think i know that i don't know :P | 21:01 |
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| ZogG_laptop | beford, new design is nice | 21:15 |
| beford | lol | 21:15 |
| beford | sorry | 21:15 |
| beford | xD | 21:15 |
| beford | I forgot | 21:15 |
| ZogG_laptop | (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ | 21:16 |
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| ZogG_laptop | tom__, hey tom | 21:16 |
| ZogG_laptop | sup | 21:16 |
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| djszapi_ | valdur55: can you reinstall now? | 21:27 |
| djszapi_ | apt-get update | 21:27 |
| djszapi_ | apt-get install --reinstall qt5-components | 21:27 |
| djszapi_ | --reinstall is important. | 21:27 |
| valdur55 | yea. i know ;) | 21:29 |
| djszapi_ | I have not updated the packaging number iirc | 21:31 |
| djszapi_ | this time | 21:31 |
| djszapi_ | so without that, update will not be detected | 21:31 |
| valdur55 | yea. then it gives : .. package is already up to date | 21:32 |
| djszapi_ | yeah, so either remove and install | 21:33 |
| djszapi_ | or --reinstall if allowd. | 21:33 |
| djszapi_ | allowed* | 21:33 |
| djszapi_ | --reinstall was not allowed for me in case qt5-base apparently. | 21:33 |
| valdur55 | http://pastebin.com/5tAcVhA8 . I see menu and i can't rotate it | 21:34 |
| djszapi_ | ok great | 21:38 |
| djszapi_ | can you start the application with this: | 21:38 |
| djszapi_ | -plugin meego | 21:38 |
| valdur55 | http://pastebin.com/dfSNNjgL | 21:39 |
| valdur55 | yep. No rotation. | 21:39 |
| djszapi_ | alright, thanks. | 21:40 |
| djszapi_ | at least it seems to be only that type of issue. | 21:40 |
| djszapi_ | valdur55: what if you specify QML_IMPORT_PATH | 21:40 |
| djszapi_ | and LD_LIBRARY_PATH? | 21:40 |
| valdur55 | djszapi_, how ? | 21:41 |
| djszapi_ | QML_IMPORT_PATH=/opt/qt5/imports LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/qt5/lib /opt/qt5/bin/QmlComponentGallery | 21:41 |
| valdur55 | same | 21:42 |
| djszapi_ | ok, that sucks. XD | 21:42 |
| valdur55 | This app should be fullscreen ? | 21:43 |
| valdur55 | I can't fully see menu icon | 21:43 |
| valdur55 | Toolbar buttons. | 21:43 |
| djszapi_ | because the toolicons do not work | 21:44 |
| djszapi_ | see your error output | 21:44 |
| valdur55 | yep... it doesn't know screen resolution and shows toolbar buttons closely to screen edge | 21:47 |
| djszapi_ | well I have done enough commits in this project for today | 21:47 |
| djszapi_ | I will move on. | 21:47 |
| djszapi_ | thank you for testing. | 21:47 |
| valdur55 | thank you for asking | 21:48 |
| djszapi_ | it is going to be interesting when it is all working. | 21:48 |
| djszapi_ | people can port their applications to QtQuick2. | 21:48 |
| djszapi_ | pretty much with almost no effort | 21:49 |
| valdur55 | :) | 21:52 |
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| djszapi_ | valdur55: so did you like the KDE summit? | 22:12 |
| valdur55 | i don't remember ... | 22:13 |
| valdur55 | djszapi_, do you mean those two days ? | 22:23 |
| djszapi_ | a week | 22:24 |
| djszapi_ | aKademy | 22:24 |
| valdur55 | oke. It was my first time. | 22:24 |
| djszapi_ | :) | 22:24 |
| djszapi_ | valdur55: btw, you can try my kde application ports in Ovi store if you wish: kanagram and khangman | 22:25 |
| valdur55 | And it was nice :) . | 22:26 |
| djszapi_ | valdur55: http://community.kde.org/KDE_Mobile/Harmattan#Ported_Applications | 22:27 |
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| valdur55 | Oh :) Localised app :D | 22:31 |
| djszapi_ | kanagram? | 22:31 |
| valdur55 | Yep. | 22:31 |
| djszapi_ | yep | 22:32 |
| djszapi_ | I can localize khangman | 22:32 |
| djszapi_ | but the problem is the alphabet with that | 22:32 |
| djszapi_ | I would need to re-design that | 22:32 |
| djszapi_ | and for certain languages it would not work with that space I design with. | 22:32 |
| djszapi_ | kanagram is simpler | 22:32 |
| djszapi_ | it is using the KDE localization system | 22:32 |
| djszapi_ | so if you have compatriots translating KDE into estonian. | 22:33 |
| djszapi_ | it could be shown in there. | 22:33 |
| valdur55 | :) | 22:35 |
| valdur55 | khangman have bug. Tip notification is lower than timer | 22:36 |
| djszapi_ | btw 29/59 reviews | 22:37 |
| djszapi_ | or so | 22:37 |
| djszapi_ | feel free to leave a bad or good review :) | 22:37 |
| djszapi_ | to round the number up | 22:37 |
| djszapi_ | oh, someone left a review | 22:37 |
| djszapi_ | with one star :D | 22:37 |
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| djszapi_ | the person left "Deconcentration and irritates" in Spanish | 22:38 |
| djszapi_ | interesting feedback | 22:38 |
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| valdur55 | :D | 22:45 |
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| rzr | hi | 23:16 |
| rzr | have tested kernel+ | 23:16 |
| jonni | if I would have extra time in my hands, I would also be playing with custom kernel builds, but unfortunately my free time has been quite liimited lately. | 23:18 |
| rzr | i can understand | 23:20 |
| djszapi_ | jonni: why would you do that? | 23:21 |
| jonni | I did do a quick diff against kernel+ vs my custom 2.6.32.59 version and they seemed almost the same, kernel+ sources just nukes the debian directory | 23:21 |
| rzr | tmo suggested to also support nitdroid | 23:22 |
| jonni | I have this backburner project to make a kernel which has the injection drivers + pnp wifi for nexus7 | 23:22 |
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| rzr | this is already the case isnt it ? | 23:22 |
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| jonni | actually I have one custom kernel built in my sb, but I havent had time to test it yet. | 23:23 |
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| djszapi_ | jonni: why are you still so attached to Harmattan? | 23:24 |
| djszapi_ | I mean isn't it easier to do that type of experiment for nemo or so? | 23:24 |
| jonni | djszapi_: well nemo is not suitable for daily use | 23:24 |
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| djszapi_ | fair enough | 23:25 |
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| djszapi_ | but if everybody thinks so, it is never gonna be :D | 23:25 |
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| djszapi_ | Venemo: sup | 23:25 |
| Venemo | hey djszapi_ | 23:25 |
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| Venemo | djszapi_, I'm fine, thanks for asking! :) you? | 23:26 |
| djszapi_ | Venemo: alright | 23:26 |
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| djszapi_ | qtquick2 is coming to harmattan | 23:26 |
| djszapi_ | in small steps | 23:26 |
| djszapi_ | a bunch of issues resolved. | 23:26 |
| jonni | well anyways Monday is my last day working with Nokia, still have to write somekind of goodbye email to ex-collegues. | 23:26 |
| rzr | u're on this arent u ? | 23:26 |
| rzr | jonni: are there any left? | 23:27 |
| djszapi_ | rzr: yes, I worked 10-12 hours today on this. | 23:27 |
| Venemo | djszapi_, awesome news!!!! :) :) :) | 23:27 |
| jonni | rzr: heh after monday, there still are windows phone people still left :) | 23:27 |
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| Venemo | jonni, thanks for all the great work you've done :) | 23:28 |
| rzr | thx for staying that long too | 23:28 |
| djszapi_ | jonni: what would you like to achieve with your custom kernel? | 23:28 |
| jonni | and anyways I plan to idle here even after my Nokia career. | 23:29 |
| rzr | built in modu | 23:29 |
| piggz | could it be that basic QML apps cant be debugged/profiled? Does it have to be based on QMLApplicationViewer? | 23:29 |
| rzr | . | 23:29 |
| jonni | djszapi_: wifi injection drivers, pnp wifi + hostapd&nat. | 23:29 |
| jonni | those are the only things that I'm currently missing vs stock kernel. | 23:30 |
| Venemo | jonni, any plans on what's next? :) | 23:30 |
| Venemo | jonni, jolla perhaps? | 23:30 |
| djszapi_ | jonni: cannot you do that with inception? | 23:32 |
| djszapi_ | btw, jolla does not pay that bad. | 23:32 |
| djszapi_ | regarding the current situation. | 23:32 |
| jonni | Venemo: well on Tuesday I'm starting my new job. But I decided to test my wings in non-phone releated ict company. | 23:32 |
| jonni | djszapi_: nope, inception does not help, since nat requires changes in kernel that cannot be solved with module loading. | 23:33 |
| djszapi_ | jonni: I see. | 23:33 |
| rzr | btw any news of mr itsnotabigtruck | 23:33 |
| Venemo | jonni, I wish you luck :) | 23:34 |
| rzr | does the man ever existed ? | 23:34 |
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| jonni | Venemo: thanks | 23:35 |
| djszapi_ | jonni: yeah, good luck we had lots of fun in Harmattan I believe despite it did not succeed! | 23:36 |
| djszapi_ | I am still having with Qt5. :-) | 23:36 |
| jesuschrist_ | good luck jonni | 23:36 |
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| rzr | economic failure but technical success | 23:37 |
| jonni | well it 'succeed' on small scale, since we still are in this channel, but its a shame that it didnt make a breakthrough success. | 23:37 |
| Venemo | djszapi_, depends on your point of view. in my opinion, considering the circumstances, harmattan succeeded quire well. | 23:37 |
| jesuschrist_ | what about jolla | 23:37 |
| jesuschrist_ | any news? | 23:37 |
| Venemo | jesuschrist_, there was a hackday at Devaamo | 23:38 |
| rzr | they recruited some pple | 23:38 |
| rzr | and mer is still active | 23:38 |
| Venemo | it was awesome, shame I couldn't attend | 23:38 |
| Venemo | thanks to them, the Mer guys are now paid to work on Mer. :) | 23:38 |
| rzr | i guess its evolving as expected | 23:39 |
| rzr | slowly but surely | 23:39 |
| rzr | no major news on tizen or bb10 ... | 23:40 |
| jonni | heh, my latest project is to attach sdcard to my old Amiga :) http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/index.html#SDCARDFloppyemulator | 23:40 |
| Venemo | blackberry is evangelizing devs very agreesively, so I guess we'll see something from them | 23:40 |
| rzr | jonni: great | 23:41 |
| rzr | http://www.pcworld.fr/images/galerie,idf-2012-tizen-os-technical-overview,313,1248883.htm | 23:41 |
| rzr | jonni: have u tested aros release ? | 23:41 |
| djszapi_ | Venemo: actually they are helping devs | 23:41 |
| djszapi_ | they are not agressive :) | 23:42 |
| djszapi_ | they are rather progressive | 23:42 |
| djszapi_ | which is cool | 23:42 |
| Venemo | you could say that, yes | 23:42 |
| djszapi_ | they even offered their office for a KDE Blackberry sprint | 23:42 |
| piggz | hmmm: QDeclarativeDebugServer: Ignoring "-qmljsdebugger=port:3768,block". Debugging has not been enabled. | 23:43 |
| rzr | djszapi_: like active on playbook? | 23:44 |
| ZogG_laptop | rzr, Venemo sup | 23:46 |
| jonni | piggz: you need to make clean rebuild after enabling the debugging | 23:47 |
| Venemo | ZogG_laptop, I'm having a relaxing day | 23:47 |
| ZogG_laptop | Venemo, :P | 23:47 |
| ZogG_laptop | Venemo, finished my project, so me too :P | 23:47 |
| piggz | jonni: ok, i'll try... | 23:47 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni, sup pal | 23:47 |
| djszapi_ | jpnurmi: http://doc-snapshot.qt-project.org/5.0/qtqml-modules-qmldir.html | 23:47 |
| jonni | ZogG_laptop: hi | 23:47 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni, long time no see | 23:47 |
| djszapi_ | jpnurmi: The <ModuleIdentifier> is the (dotted URI notation) identifier for the module, which must match the module's install path. | 23:47 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni, how are you | 23:48 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni, finished at nokia? | 23:48 |
| jonni | ZogG_laptop: I'm fine, last day will be on monday. | 23:48 |
| djszapi_ | rzr: active is a different category... | 23:48 |
| rzr | no nokia is finished without jonni | 23:48 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni, still can't tell about new job? | 23:48 |
| Venemo | ZogG_laptop, :) | 23:48 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni, btw didn't see backupmanager in competition, did i miss it? :P | 23:49 |
| jonni | ZogG_laptop: I didnt submit it, as that competition was really non-organized without a decent submit pages, so figured that maybe I'll just release it later when I have tweaked it a little more | 23:51 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni, waiting for it :P | 23:52 |
| djszapi_ | jonni: will Qt be relevant to your daily professional work? | 23:53 |
| pa | rzr, you there? | 23:54 |
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| pa | may i ask you something? in your repos there's a package "rawcam". what is it? | 23:55 |
| ZogG_laptop | khertan, sup man | 23:55 |
| khertan | ZogG_laptop, sup | 23:55 |
| ZogG_laptop | pa, it was old version of rawcam | 23:55 |
| ZogG_laptop | i think djszapi_ upgraded it, but ask him | 23:56 |
| pa | then it's strange that software updates wants to use that version over the 0.0.8 released for the mcc | 23:56 |
| pa | maybe repo should be fixed? | 23:57 |
| djszapi_ | maybe you should fix what you are saying? | 23:57 |
| djszapi_ | because it is still unclear? | 23:57 |
| djszapi_ | like said yesterday, the same can be said again: there is no "software update" UI for the community repository | 23:58 |
| pa | djszapi_, so, apt-get upgrade wants to upgrade the rawcam-0.0.8 i got from tmo, that was the latest | 23:58 |
| djszapi_ | and apt-get install will not know a third party forum attachment | 23:58 |
| pa | clearer? :) | 23:58 |
| jonni | ZogG_laptop: I'm thinking of makeing somekind of bigger release at some point, like releasing all my different kind of tweak codes, like my custom warrantly.rle maker. | 23:58 |
| djszapi_ | so it is unclear what you mean in the first place. | 23:58 |
| djszapi_ | pa: you should learn how apt-get works | 23:58 |
| djszapi_ | nothing wrong with the repository. | 23:58 |
| djszapi_ | I mean nothing to fix. | 23:59 |
| djszapi_ | the package could be updated, but someone needs to volunteer | 23:59 |
| djszapi_ | so it is not broken, but maximum outdated. | 23:59 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni, what about keys? :P | 23:59 |
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