IRC log of #harmattan for Friday, 2012-09-14

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ZogG_laptopdjszapi_: what project?00:02
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djszapi_if you read above few lines, it is going to be clear.00:03
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ZogG_laptopdjszapi_: oh that00:10
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merlin1991hm I can't use twitter anymore, tried to delete the account and readd it and it fails with unkown error, the syslog contains various errors from signond and signonpluginprocess02:08
* Dante_J dips his hat to greet the room02:09
merlin1991ah damn, it was the time problem02:12
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merlin1991all that because I have a wrong time after each reboot, any ideas as to why this happens?02:17
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khertanfor the reboot nope, but for twitter time is part of the oauth system02:28
khertanif your time differ too much02:28
khertanpoff02:28
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khertanauth failed02:29
khertanmerlin1991, a stupid operator could be the reason too02:29
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merlin1991khertan: it was the time, and I realized why I get inproper time after reboot too02:32
merlin1991my ntp client is not allowed to write to the rtc, so only the system time is set when I run it02:32
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anthony_devguys, I remember that one day I actually saw buttons and all that stuff that I see in n9 in qt creator, but now I cant. is something wrong with my memories or I'm doing something wrong so I cant see these controls now?10:30
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anthony_devall I can see is standart controls for desktop =\ even If I select harmattan development.10:31
phakoanthony_dev: don't remember this ever working10:31
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anthony_devphako: can you make a screenshot of your qt creator and which controls are available there if you select harmattan development?11:15
phakoanthony_dev: designer isn't even active when I select Harmattan11:16
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anthony_devso you just typing all that stuff and then watching how it looks on actual device? phako11:16
phakoanthony_dev: no, I cheated and installed qt-components on the desktop11:17
anthony_dever?11:17
phakoso I can just run it on the desktop without any simulator11:17
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paby the way, is anybody working on a compatibility layer to run freemantle apps on harmattan? or is that impossible at all?13:54
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Hurrianpa, fremantle chroot?14:15
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pais that easy to do?14:18
pai mean is it easy not to mess up the phone? :)14:19
Lava_Croftheh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKDQK4SffT814:23
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Hurrianpa, you need open mode15:00
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paah thats the trick15:03
Hurrianmy way of switching to openmode:15:05
Hurrianenable devel mode, remove View-openmode, remove accounts, remove ~/{.aegis,.accounts} flash kernel, backup /etc/ssl/certs to /root/certs, flash kernel, remove /etc/aegisfs.d/*, reboot, put back certs, readd accounts, and done.15:06
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ZogG_laptopannnnnd it's gone15:09
ZogG_laptopHurrian: sup man15:09
HurrianZogG_laptop, reflashed my N9 after a few rounds of customization killed Harmattan15:10
ZogG_laptoplol15:10
Hurrianit's a lot more delicate than Fremantle was.15:10
ZogG_laptop1:0 to Nokia?15:10
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HurrianSeems so.15:12
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Hurrianwas able to get my open mode setup down this time though, and it's exactly like stock Harmattan, with the exception of device lock15:13
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ZogG_laptopHurrian: i'm ok with inception :P15:20
ZogG_laptopget the key for bootloader and it would be real open-mode P15:20
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khertan_does there is number of harmattan device distributed world wide ?18:08
ZogG_laptophttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnzkviO-aXQ - windows like components on n918:18
ZogG_laptopJaffa: that might hit mkwn ^ it works on bb as well what author says18:19
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khertanZogG_laptop, what a lose of time19:01
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befordhi khertan19:02
befordwould you know why this doesn't work to get the clipboard content19:02
befordfrom PySide.QtGui import QApplication;import sys;app = QApplication(sys.argv);clipboard = QApplication.clipboard();clipboard.setText(sys.argv[1]);sys.exit(-1)19:03
befordi mean, to set the clipboard19:03
khertanbeford, on harmattan ?19:04
befordkhertan: yea19:04
befordfrom PySide.QtGui import QApplication;import sys;app = QApplication(sys.argv);clipboard = QApplication.clipboard();print clipboard.text();sys.exit(-1)19:04
khertanprobably because QtGui isn't well support19:05
befordI can read it with that19:05
befordbut not set it :/19:05
khertanhttp://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/qt4/qclipboard.html <<< should works19:05
khertani remember having use it somewhere in one of my projects19:06
khertan:)19:06
befordoh there is one mode thing19:06
befordparameter19:06
befordi'll try playing with that19:06
ZogG_laptopbeford: seen the video?19:07
befordthanks for the video ZogG_laptop :D19:07
befordyea19:07
ZogG_laptopbeford: is his problem the flight mode?19:07
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ZogG_laptopmaybe you should make for localhost only one button as it always have same options19:07
ZogG_laptopbeford: this video made me think i have breathing problems :P19:08
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befordI dont know if its fly mode :/ its weird because if the webui works, the transmission client uses the same port so it should connect too19:08
ZogG_laptopkhertan: it's nice effects after all19:08
ZogG_laptopbeford: doesn't it check for connection or module u use check the connection?19:08
khertanZogG_laptop, nice effect, but as an ui, i found that messy and untidy19:09
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shanttuSomeone mentioned on tmo that stock 'maps' can read .gpx. example '/usr/bin/maps file.gpx'. App launches but the route is not visible. Am I doing something wrong?19:23
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shanttuI still keep using my N900 as gps device because of this. Modrana rocks.19:24
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khertanthp, did you know nice looking apps for android writted in python pyside ?19:27
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ZogG_laptopKhertan: join #funtoo there is guy there with netbook 1.66GHz. he uses table version though, you can ask him19:51
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KhertanZogG_laptop, don't have time now, preparing my lightning talk for pyconfr19:52
ZogG_laptopKhertan: oh =(19:52
ZogG_laptopKhertan: stick around there when u have time, community is nice19:52
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djszapiN9I would like to establish a harmattan council.20:06
djszapiN9I will blog about the reasons a bit later.20:07
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djszapiN9will surely need some help to set up :)20:09
DocScrutinizer05oooh harmattan council, suuuure! Since maemo council isn't enough20:13
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DocScrutinizer05will it reside in Avignon?20:18
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pavatican city :)20:20
paoh right, we cannot enter there20:21
ZogG_laptopdjszapiN9: it's waste of time20:21
DocScrutinizer05last desparate effort to regain total control over harmattan20:24
ZogG_laptopcontrol of what?20:25
ZogG_laptopi don't get people who want responsobility20:25
ZogG_laptopthere re people working a lot on things just to do stuff20:25
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jabismeh - a bug in realgolf just gave me a negative balance of -2147483648$ after finishing 9th place for a season x)20:27
djszapiN9jabis, hehe ;)20:27
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djszapiN9rZr, have an idea for getting a c-obs instance for our community repository.20:29
DocScrutinizer05ZogG_laptop: to me this sounds like last plan to regain control over all N9 out there, after aegis managed to devastade the system and devolpment environment but evidently finally lost the battle20:29
jabiskinda lol'd at integer fail x)20:29
ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer05: LOL20:30
jabisI just have to win the next 430 seasons to get to 0 x)20:30
ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer05: but now u have to ban yourself :P20:30
jabisluckily only 4 byte storage space x)20:31
ZogG_laptopdjszapiN9: i have an idea for c-obs like thing, but too noob to do it, but i think it's better than cobs :P20:31
ZogG_laptopit's like apps4meego20:31
ZogG_laptopto be an client/repo20:31
ZogG_laptopbut build not on cobs20:31
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thpKhertan: nope, don't know any - do you? :)20:32
ZogG_laptopjust from any git/svn place20:32
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piggzanyone know if cloudgps can download maps for offline use?20:40
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Khertandoes the tv out works on n950 with n900 cable ?20:46
Khertani can 't make it working20:46
Khertanany idea ?20:46
befordit works on the N9 with the same cable20:47
dm8tbrKhertan: it should20:47
befordhave not tried the N95020:47
tommaKhertan, yes it works20:47
valdur55it should have same pinout20:47
dm8tbrKhertan: that's what sage used during his nemomobile presentation at the devaamo hackday20:47
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valdur55because it is standard 3.5mm plug and all 3.5 headphones must be OK20:48
valdur55And video is on 4th pin20:48
Khertanyeah ... the problem could be n95020:50
Khertan(and special release)20:51
Khertan:)20:51
befordtry to unplug and plug it back with the tv on20:51
Khertanalready done :)20:51
Khertanrestart/with cable20:52
Khertanwithout cable20:52
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valdur55maybe you need set TV-out mode?20:53
valdur55NTSC vs PAL20:53
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Khertan... valdur55 tryed both20:54
Khertan:)20:54
valdur55is TV on AV mode ?20:54
Khertanone of av mode ;) there is 6 or 720:54
valdur55are you using right color ?20:54
befordswitch through all of them20:54
valdur55ouch. av number is near the pins20:55
valdur55plug *20:57
Khertanlol ... a shit of paper inside the connector20:57
Khertan:)20:57
Khertanthx for help20:58
Khertan)20:58
Khertan:)20:58
befordthere is this thing on the android developer settings that shows the clicks/touchs on the screen21:00
befordis there something like that for harmattan?21:00
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dm8tbrbeford: at least the 4squick app has that. I find it nice even as a user to have slight visual touch feedback21:05
rZrhi guys21:08
valdur55hi!21:12
rZris the iphone mania over ?21:13
valdur55yes. one vawe is over21:14
valdur55wave*21:14
rZrdo u see the next one ?21:15
valdur55yes.  Device Sell Date21:16
rZrwell the one may get official qt support21:17
valdur55one ?21:17
rZrthat ip521:17
valdur55oke21:18
valdur55Harmattan apps will run on ip5 ?21:19
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beforddm8tbr: do you mean the flashing/moving dot on the top of the tittle or something else? I can't see it on the free version,21:22
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dm8tbrbeford: for me there is a light blue semitransparent dot on most touches21:26
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ZogG_laptoprZr: ping21:36
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pabeginner question: how to import a  qmldir containing a plugin?รน22:11
pa(and make the plugin available to qml)22:11
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