| chem|st | what permissions does developer have? | 00:00 |
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| jonni | developer is alias for user, so it has user permissions. | 00:00 |
| djszapi_ | chem|st: why askin' ? | 00:01 |
| jonni | difference is that developers shell is develsh and user shell is /bin/sh | 00:01 |
| chem|st | wat is the difference between those (shoot links if you are too lazy to explain) | 00:02 |
| chem|st | djszapi_: am I root or sudoer or dumbUser?! | 00:02 |
| djszapi_ | devel-su | 00:03 |
| djszapi_ | you will have a bit more | 00:03 |
| djszapi_ | ofc you can abuse security holes as well, which I would not recommend personally. | 00:03 |
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| chem|st | aegis hacks...? | 00:03 |
| jonni | devel-su; su - user; accli -I;exit su - developer; accli -I; # that will tell you the difference | 00:04 |
| jonni | s/exit/exit;/ | 00:04 |
| djszapi_ | chem|st: check the wiki page | 00:04 |
| djszapi_ | chem|st: http://wiki.meego.com/Aegis_Policies | 00:05 |
| djszapi_ | developer is pretty much the OVI source stuff | 00:05 |
| djszapi_ | user is the "default". | 00:05 |
| louisdk | I've an N950 and when I slide out the keyboard to answer a text msg a get this extra space: http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/543/screen20jul12225825.png - Anybody can know if it can be fixed. | 00:06 |
| jonni | louisdk: its only software so it can be fixed, but no, currently I dont remember seeing that anyone would have released a fix for it in TMO. | 00:10 |
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| beford | ~n950-firmware | 00:10 |
| infobot | hmm... n950-firmware is The latest OneClickFlasher for the Nokia N950 is available from http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/release/N950/firmware/ | 00:10 |
| chem|st | so now I am looking for awesomeness in community repos... | 00:11 |
| Sazpaimon | [16:45] <chem|st> Sazpaimon: steamclient? overrated... better get a password manager compatible with keepass AND pwsafe going! | 00:13 |
| Sazpaimon | says you | 00:13 |
| Sazpaimon | i have a few friends that only use steam as their IM client | 00:14 |
| louisdk | jonni: Is this bug publicly known? | 00:16 |
| jonni | louisdk: its not a bug as it only happens on developer device and not on N9. | 00:19 |
| chem|st | Sazpaimon: I have a few friends they use whatsapp as their IM client... | 00:21 |
| chem|st | I would never even think about touching whatsapp | 00:22 |
| Sazpaimon | chem|st, the difference here is that steam has an open API | 00:22 |
| louisdk | jonni: Okay. So it's a BSOD = Bug Shown On Devdevice ;) | 00:22 |
| chem|st | Sazpaimon: no I am fine with steam but I do not understand how it has become an important msger for anyone | 00:22 |
| Sazpaimon | i really dont know either | 00:23 |
| chem|st | :) | 00:23 |
| Sazpaimon | I think after the release of orange box, steam became a really popular social platform | 00:23 |
| chem|st | there is xmpp! for ages! | 00:23 |
| djszapi_ | chem|st: +1 on whatisapp -1 | 00:24 |
| jonni | louisdk: adding check for keyboard open and adjusting the offset, is most likely just few lines of code and takes 10 minutes, but as its not a bug, then most likely you need to fix it yourself. Havent checked is there is qml file to tweak or on worst case you need to binary patch the offset :) | 00:25 |
| jonni | is=if | 00:25 |
| louisdk | jonni: Okay ;) | 00:27 |
| djszapi_ | bugs are overrated | 00:28 |
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| ladoga | i have few friends using facebook. would never even touch it | 00:45 |
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| heymaster-laptop | http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Discussion/showthread.php?236877-Qt-QML-ListView-Refresh-ListView << any suggestions? | 00:46 |
| ladoga | people sell their profiling info to govermenments/corporations so cheaply | 00:46 |
| heymaster-laptop | ladoga: why not ? | 00:47 |
| heymaster-laptop | :D | 00:47 |
| ladoga | come some autocratic regime and people are in jail for what they have said in FB | 00:47 |
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| ladoga | or maybe shot | 00:48 |
| heymaster-laptop | maybe it's not FB problem ? | 00:48 |
| heymaster-laptop | I don't like FB too, but using it :) | 00:49 |
| ladoga | it's problem of people who use services that log and sell profiling information | 00:49 |
| ladoga | and mostly likely it will affect nothing or very little | 00:50 |
| ladoga | so not really problem | 00:50 |
| ladoga | especially if privacy is of no concern | 00:50 |
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| ladoga | or..well. that's what I think | 00:51 |
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| heymaster-laptop | ladoga: I'm not public person I'm using FB to connect with friends | 00:53 |
| ladoga | but it's good atleast to realise everything you say there is public | 00:54 |
| heymaster-laptop | yes, i think so :) | 00:55 |
| ladoga | messages and chats are logged and filtered | 00:55 |
| heymaster-laptop | yes, even pictures with gps cords are logged :) | 00:55 |
| heymaster-laptop | need to get CD from FB with all data :) | 00:56 |
| heymaster-laptop | you can request all data from FB (at least in EU I think) | 00:58 |
| ladoga | it's very useful for marketing adn advertising purposes and ofcourse for any intelligence service which needs to track down dissidents | 00:59 |
| ladoga | yep, so you atleast know what they have stored | 01:00 |
| ladoga | but how can one then verify that this is really all of the data | 01:01 |
| heymaster-laptop | ladoga: I think I will suspend my FB account after your talk :D | 01:01 |
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| chem|st | aweful calendar bug... all entries entered between 11pm and 12am will get the NEXT day entered.. | 01:02 |
| chem|st | it takes the next full hour for starting time... | 01:03 |
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| ladoga | heymaster-laptop: my friends use mostly xmpp though. not that many friends so it's easy. :) I'm not aware of any user controlled social networking platform so probably facebook has no real alternatives. | 01:10 |
| ladoga | and "everyone" is already there | 01:11 |
| ladoga | so not much choice for those who need it | 01:11 |
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| heymaster-laptop | ladoga: peoples mosly uses Skype fo IM messages :) | 01:29 |
| heymaster-laptop | I can't make people to switch to xmpp | 01:30 |
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| ZogG_laptop | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdXfStB2dQ0&feature=player_embedded - hmmm firefox running n9 | 02:43 |
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| chem|st | heymaster-laptop: as ther is voip too | 02:56 |
| heymaster-laptop | Skype uses 234MB RAM and 26 threads now on my computer :) What's why I hate this program :) | 02:58 |
| ZogG_laptop | skype is propitary | 02:59 |
| ZogG_laptop | and i think all IM should be opensource | 02:59 |
| ZogG_laptop | all communication protocols at least | 02:59 |
| ZogG_laptop | what is good at skype is how they deal with p2p | 02:59 |
| ZogG_laptop | chem|st: how is the phone? amazed already? | 03:00 |
| ZogG_laptop | ~ping | 03:00 |
| infobot | ~pong | 03:00 |
| ZogG_laptop | i have terrible timeouts | 03:00 |
| heymaster-laptop | ZogG_laptop: Skype is good p2p solution because it's uses supernodes :P | 03:03 |
| ZogG_laptop | i do not understand those things | 03:04 |
| heymaster-laptop | stealing bandwidth and cpu cycles :) | 03:04 |
| ZogG_laptop | ok i need to go to sleep. my gf felt asleep here | 03:04 |
| heymaster-laptop | good to you :D | 03:05 |
| beford | hi | 03:07 |
| heymaster-laptop | hi | 03:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~wiki Supernode (networking) | 11:00 |
| infobot | At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernode_(networking) (URL), Wikipedia explains: "In peer-to-peer networking, a 'supernode' is any node that also serves as one of that network's relayers and proxy servers, handling data flow and connections for other users. This semi-distributed architecture allows data to be decentralized without requiring excessive overhead at every node. However, the increased workload of supernodes generally requires additional ... | 11:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | usually you feel _very_ happy when skype deides your modile is a good supernode¡ ;-P | 11:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | decides* | 11:01 |
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| Hurrian | DocScrutinizer05, I thought MS was moving Skype away from semi peer-to-peer networks? | 11:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | dunno, couldn't bother less about skype. For M$ it wouldn't be the first time they do CSI and FBI and homeland security a favour | 11:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | and routing every skype call via US borne M$ supernodes for sure was a great favour for all those agencies | 11:13 |
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| vi_ | Hello | 11:57 |
| vi_ | I want to flash open mode kernel. | 11:57 |
| vi_ | Do I need to flash the eMMC at the same time or can I just flash the kernel? | 11:58 |
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| valdur55 | you can flash only the kernel | 12:03 |
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| vi_ | ~openmode | 12:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~aegis-no-thanks | 12:14 |
| infobot | methinks aegis-no-thanks is http://maemo.cloud-7.de/HARM/N9/openmode_kernel_PR1.1/, or http://maemo.cloud-7.de/HARM/N9/1.2/openmode-kernel/ | 12:14 |
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| valdur55 | Why i need use openmode kernel+ | 12:17 |
| valdur55 | Aegis isn't blocking anymore? | 12:17 |
| vi_ | hi | 12:20 |
| vi_ | ERROR: APE algorithm has to be provided to flash all the subimages | 12:20 |
| vi_ | ^DAFUQ this means? | 12:20 |
| vi_ | I am trying to flash open mode kernel | 12:20 |
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| vi_ | how do I switch my n9 off? | 12:47 |
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| valdur55 | Hold power button down. | 12:48 |
| valdur55 | And then it switchs off. | 12:48 |
| valdur55 | it's like computer | 12:48 |
| vi_ | I have installed open mode kernel. Now everytime I boot up I get asked for my email password... | 12:49 |
| vi_ | ...Is this normal? | 12:49 |
| vi_ | ZogG_laptop: ping | 12:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, it's related to aegisfs got fecked by openmode, and now it's mounted r/o or sth like that | 12:50 |
| vi_ | So does that mean I will have to type in my email password EVERYTIME i boot up? | 12:51 |
| valdur55 | but... maybe you can manually mount this filesystem r/w :D | 12:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there's a particular procedure sequence to get a 'working' aegisfs on openmode. Sth like "flash stock, install openmode, only *then* boot up and first time access aegisfs" | 12:52 |
| vi_ | ffs. | 12:52 |
| vi_ | Is this actually documented anywhere? | 12:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I dunno, I gave up on all that shite | 12:52 |
| vi_ | Or is it all written in 9 month old meego forum posts? | 12:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | itsnotabigtruck and jonni should know some details. Others in here as well | 12:53 |
| vi_ | DocScrutinizer05: Such hardware wasted on such a shit of an OS. | 12:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | indeed | 12:53 |
| vi_ | BURT IT HAZ SWIP 2 MOOOLTITUSK | 12:54 |
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| zeq | many do seem to like swipe ui ??? | 12:54 |
| * zeq is following how vi_ gets on hacking the N950 | 12:55 | |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | well, that's personal preference - I for one don't. But that's not the big bummer of HARM. It's clearly the fuckup by MFFS/Aegis | 12:56 |
| vi_ | It is like they have taken the controls out of an apollo moonlander and replaced them with a dildo. | 12:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wow, epic statement. Would you mind me quoting you on it? | 12:56 |
| vi_ | DocScrutinizer05: It is all yours mate. | 12:57 |
| trx | lol | 12:57 |
| trx | good one :) | 12:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | MSSF? | 12:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mobile simplified (SIC!) security (hah!) framework | 12:59 |
| vi_ | oh well. Back in the box with you n950. I will try again another day when I have a little more patience. | 13:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hrrhrr | 13:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | vi_: ONE nice thing: N900 cmdline binaries working OOTB on N950 | 13:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | usually | 13:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just copy over | 13:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | doesn't solve the "no permission" issue, but well, that's what openmode and develsh and devel-su and opensh and inception are for | 13:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | took me only two weeks to find out I actually *can* use i2c-tools from N900 on N950 | 13:05 |
| vi_ | DocScrutinizer05: You did not try to compile i2c-tools with harmattan toolchain? | 13:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nope | 13:05 |
| vi_ | DocScrutinizer05: Is hostmode theoretically possible on the n950? | 13:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 13:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | only in openmode though | 13:06 |
| vi_ | Then there is hope. | 13:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aiui | 13:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and openmode is a bad pun, a PITA, as you've already noticed | 13:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | since Nokia promised openmode for HARM but actually never delivered, in that the whole friggin OS still barfs up as soon as you enter openmode | 13:08 |
| vi_ | nemo beckons. | 13:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 13:09 |
| Hurrian | vi_, wrestling with aegis? | 13:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | round two finished, aegis:2, vi_:0 | 13:10 |
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| Hurrian | DocScrutinizer05, open mode locks you out of secure storage, and that's about all I noticed | 13:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 13:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | and locked secure storage nukes half of your system | 13:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no more (email) passwords, no more https:// due to missing/fecked certs... etc pp | 13:13 |
| Hurrian | can't you just delete dbs and have the system rebuild them with the open/none keys? | 13:13 |
| Hurrian | I read it somewhere on tmo | 13:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and the most hillarious obviously ummutible fsckup: lockcode is locked | 13:14 |
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| Hurrian | if you can't use any encryption at all, with different encryption keys for openmode, that's a slap in the face for users | 13:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry I'm off again, saving my mood for the nice weekend. Not feeling like getting another HARM depression | 13:16 |
| vi_ | Hurrian: can you point me to this thread? | 13:17 |
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| vi_ | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1178281&postcount=230 | 13:20 |
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| Hurrian | vi_, cool, it'd probably take me hours to dig up the post in the openmode thread. | 13:21 |
| Hurrian | time to link to it everywhere. | 13:21 |
| Hurrian | that's definitely a step towards aegis-free harmattan | 13:23 |
| valdur55_ | aegis-fs is daemon. | 13:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~aegis-no-thanks is also http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1178281#post1178281 | 13:25 |
| infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 | 13:25 |
| valdur55_ | so... maybe it is better to remove aegis-fs from services list. | 13:25 |
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| ZogG_laptop | vi_: Hurrian you can always use inception | 14:03 |
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| vi_ | ZogG_laptop: nah | 14:30 |
| ZogG_laptop | vi_: do you have irc chatter already btw ? | 14:30 |
| ZogG_laptop | vi_: Hurrian http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEJjS8GEEQg | 14:36 |
| Hurrian | ZogG_laptop, that looks slick. Is it the same one included in Nemo? | 14:38 |
| ZogG_laptop | Hurrian: i think they have release for nemo as well | 14:38 |
| Hurrian | if it is, it was the slickest pre-installed app on Nemo | 14:38 |
| ZogG_laptop | say thanks to Venemo and other devs =) | 14:38 |
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| vi_ | Id rather use open mode. | 15:10 |
| vi_ | Why tiptoe around the point? | 15:10 |
| vi_ | why try to learn to live with aegis? | 15:10 |
| vi_ | Just get rid of it. | 15:10 |
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| Tronic | What drawbacks are there in open mode, in addition to that nag on startup? | 15:16 |
| Tronic | Can you still buy content from Store etc? | 15:16 |
| faenil | jonni, ping | 15:18 |
| chem|st | emergency... | 15:20 |
| chem|st | rebootloop | 15:20 |
| chem|st | how do I power it off? | 15:20 |
| Tronic | chem|st: Hold power button for 20 seconds. | 15:21 |
| chem|st | now it stopped and said something about dnsmasq | 15:21 |
| faenil | guys harmattan doesn't boot anymore after I installed latest nemo | 15:21 |
| faenil | ... | 15:21 |
| chem|st | and contact nokia | 15:21 |
| faenil | can anybody help troubleshoot this issue? :) | 15:21 |
| chem|st | I changed the sshd port and have a copy of original mce.ini in the same fodler with mce.ini... | 15:22 |
| chem|st | ~flashing | 15:24 |
| infobot | well, flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Flashing_N9 | 15:24 |
| chem|st | and I invoked /sbin/reboot ... | 15:25 |
| chem|st | is there a way to just alter the fs? | 15:26 |
| Hurrian | chem|st, not a malf? | 15:26 |
| Hurrian | boot mer, mount root, make changes and done | 15:26 |
| Hurrian | it doesn't use ubifs anymore, iirc. lemme check | 15:26 |
| Hurrian | cool, ext4. | 15:27 |
| chem|st | Hurrian: you are speaking ??? | 15:28 |
| chem|st | ~malf | 15:28 |
| infobot | it has been said that malf is http://maemo.cloud-7.de/Aegis-kills-device.jpg | 15:28 |
| faenil | I don't undesrtand why harm doesn't boot anymore... | 15:28 |
| chem|st | Hurrian: ah and yes I installed bash... | 15:29 |
| chem|st | and made it the default shell | 15:29 |
| Hurrian | for user "user" ? | 15:29 |
| Hurrian | should be fine | 15:30 |
| chem|st | root | 15:30 |
| chem|st | Hurrian: how do I get to /etc/? | 15:31 |
| chem|st | so how do I boot mer? | 15:31 |
| Hurrian | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Nokia_N9 | 15:33 |
| Hurrian | "single boot" | 15:33 |
| Hurrian | wait, whoa | 15:33 |
| Hurrian | it repartitions internal flash | 15:33 |
| Hurrian | would not touch | 15:33 |
| Hurrian | where's the mer ramdisk when you need it | 15:33 |
| chem|st | hmmm | 15:34 |
| chem|st | I do not care if I have to install the apps again if that is the only thing missing afer a reflash of root fs | 15:35 |
| Hurrian | reflash root then ;) | 15:37 |
| Hurrian | I was thinking you didn't want to lose your mods | 15:37 |
| faenil | how can I read harmattan's logs if I can just boot into nemomobile? | 15:38 |
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| chem|st | Hurrian: is /home/user flashed too? | 15:39 |
| chem|st | or is it just opt and / | 15:39 |
| Hurrian | just "system" | 15:40 |
| Hurrian | read the N9 flashing guide, it's definitely the way to update/refresh Harmattan | 15:40 |
| chem|st | so navifirm download? | 15:42 |
| chem|st | if you find the mer link to how to boot up real quick and export rootfs that would make my day | 15:43 |
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| chem|st | ? http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/p/d/fds_fire/1205/2811/7048829758/DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.21-3_PR_LEGACY_001-OEM1-958_ARM.bin | 15:46 |
| Hurrian | that'll do just fine. | 15:50 |
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| chem|st | so just that bin? do I need the other files? | 15:55 |
| chem|st | and I should not alter shells.... | 15:55 |
| chem|st | the problem is probably simply by installing bash /bin/sh gets replaced | 15:56 |
| chem|st | flashing... | 15:58 |
| chem|st | damn | 15:58 |
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| chem|st | fresh start after a week... just like n900 3 years ago | 15:58 |
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| vi_ | chem|st: Have you installed open mode yet? | 16:00 |
| chem|st | vi nope | 16:00 |
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| vi_ | chem|st: are you going to? | 16:01 |
| chem|st | vi_: aegis just killed me | 16:01 |
| chem|st | vi_: after I understand what it does I might | 16:01 |
| vi_ | aegis is turning out to be a real ball breaker. | 16:01 |
| chem|st | turned out... well known, but I was lazy and just did like I thought might not interfer... | 16:06 |
| chem|st | need to read aegis manifest and check mie | 16:06 |
| chem|st | ~mie | 16:06 |
| chem|st | ~mic | 16:06 |
| chem|st | ~mia | 16:06 |
| infobot | well, mia is missing in action | 16:06 |
| chem|st | grml may I edit is what again | 16:07 |
| chem|st | ~may-i-edit | 16:07 |
| infobot | mayIedit () { grep "`basename $1`" /var/lib/aegis/refhashlist && echo "probably not" && return; echo "edit if you feel venturous"; } | 16:07 |
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| chem|st | battlestar back alive... | 16:08 |
| Oni^ | Blood and Chrome? | 16:09 |
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| faenil_away | so, is there any safe way to update N950 to 1.3? | 16:15 |
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| vi_ | faenil: nope | 16:22 |
| vi_ | although it has been suggested that you could *probably* extract some of the updated binaries from the n9 firmware and roll them into a botched N950 firmware. | 16:23 |
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| arcean | vi_: and this option is quite safe | 16:44 |
| arcean | I've tested it with N9 when upgrading from 1.1 to 1.3 | 16:44 |
| vi_ | what programs did you copy across? | 16:45 |
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| arcean | vi_: I've reflashed 1.1, then flashed rootfs from 1.3 using 1.1 cert-sw | 16:46 |
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| Andy1210 | Hi, the Pr1.3 update is available for N950?? | 16:47 |
| vi_ | arcean: open mode or inception? | 16:47 |
| vi_ | Andy1210: NOPE. | 16:47 |
| vi_ | Andy1210: And probably never will be. | 16:47 |
| Andy1210 | pff, thank you nokia | 16:47 |
| vi_ | Andy1210: Ay? | 16:48 |
| vi_ | N950 is a non production, obsolete prototype. | 16:48 |
| Andy1210 | N950 is developer device | 16:48 |
| vi_ | Andy1210: I know, I have one XD | 16:49 |
| vi_ | 1210 as in the turntables? | 16:49 |
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| jabis | what was it - 500 developer devices compared to 20000 lumia dev devices | 16:54 |
| jabis | fair game | 16:54 |
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| vi_ | differance is people would gove their left nut to own an n950 and they cannot even give those winphones away. | 16:57 |
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| rashm2k | hello | 17:05 |
| rashm2k | having problems with shared libraries nanyone willing to help | 17:06 |
| rashm2k | _____________- | 17:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | Andy1210: vi_ AFAIK n950 was actually planned to be not dev device =) | 17:09 |
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| rashm2k | what port does this run on? | 17:13 |
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| rashm2k | can't seem to connect using konversation in KDE using port 6667 | 17:15 |
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| Hurrian | ZogG_laptop, it was the only way they could justify disposing of one whole production run of rejects | 17:18 |
| chem|st | nokia city scene is available again.... | 17:18 |
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| rash_m2k | How do i set the library path for my application on the Nokia N9? | 17:20 |
| rash_m2k | I have some libraries in the lib folder in my application which need to be loaded. | 17:21 |
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| jabis | it's linux, dude | 17:23 |
| rash_m2k | ??? | 17:23 |
| jabis | you would link it as you would with any other linux system | 17:24 |
| rash_m2k | linking is fine - it compiles no problem and packages | 17:25 |
| rash_m2k | but the libraries are not loaded | 17:25 |
| rash_m2k | because they are not in /usr/lib | 17:25 |
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| rash_m2k | when my app is installed/deployed onto my N9 | 17:26 |
| jabis | ah so dynamic vs static | 17:27 |
| rash_m2k | well either or | 17:27 |
| rash_m2k | I have both static and dynamic libs | 17:27 |
| rash_m2k | they are my own libs so not already present in /usr/lib | 17:27 |
| jabis | static libs should work oob | 17:28 |
| jabis | N9 uses busybox | 17:28 |
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| rash_m2k | How do I force use of static libs? | 17:29 |
| rash_m2k | trying to figure this out now | 17:34 |
| jabis | have a look at how LD_LIBRARY_PATH works in busybox | 17:36 |
| jabis | also you might want to build against uclibc when working with libraries | 17:36 |
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| jabis | btw. I've been drinking for few days - so you take my advice with precaution x) | 17:38 |
| rash_m2k | uclibc? Not sure I can change that I'm working with Qt Creator and just use what it uses. | 17:39 |
| jabis | have an echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH to see where to house your libs - on the device I mean :) | 17:40 |
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| rash_m2k | I can dump them in /usr/lib - but I have to do that manually | 17:42 |
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| rash_m2k | echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH returns nothing when run as user | 17:44 |
| jabis | http://doc.qt.nokia.com/qtcreator-2.3/creator-deployment-maemo.html | 17:45 |
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| rash_m2k | guessing worst comes to worst I can list where each library should be copied to | 17:53 |
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| jonni | well you dont have to install libs under /usr/lib, I have ovi store app where I installed the libs on /opt/appname/lib | 19:32 |
| rash_m2k | how do I get qtcreator to do that? | 19:33 |
| jonni | I only added INCLUDEPATH = ../lib to .pro file. | 19:34 |
| jonni | so my app is in /opt/appname/bin, and libs are in /opt/appname/lib | 19:34 |
| jonni | simple :) | 19:35 |
| rash_m2k | you got to be kidding me! | 19:36 |
| rash_m2k | let me try it | 19:36 |
| jonni | ah, and almost forgot, then I also did do another linux kludge... just looked my sources | 19:41 |
| rash_m2k | What was that? | 19:41 |
| jabis | jonni: I think that the libs shoould go to library path without exception | 19:42 |
| jonni | I did append -Wl,-rpath,/opt/appname/lib parameters to LIBS exports :) | 19:42 |
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| jonni | jabis: well on N9, no libs are allowed in /usr/*, so all custom libs needs to go under your /opt/application dir | 19:43 |
| jonni | jabis: for ovi store sw. | 19:43 |
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| jabis | ah - hindrances | 19:43 |
| jonni | so basicly you can just tell linker your custom path with rpath, and your all set | 19:44 |
| rash_m2k | okay | 19:44 |
| rash_m2k | trying it now | 19:44 |
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| rash_m2k | Any idea how to increase the size of /tmp | 19:46 |
| jabis | jonni: btw - ld lib path shows /opt/lib/ so shouldn't that be a defacto for apps? | 19:46 |
| jabis | rash_m2k: in tmo there is a topic for resizing partitions :) | 19:47 |
| rash_m2k | it's not in fstab | 19:47 |
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| jabis | I don't understand again x) | 19:50 |
| jonni | its defined in rcS, but its aegis refhashlist protected file. | 19:52 |
| jonni | so you can increase it if you know howto resign refhashlist, if you dont know, then you just brick your device with MALF :) | 19:52 |
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| rash_m2k | can I change where Qt Creator uploads the .deb file to? | 19:54 |
| jonni | rash_m2k: yes you can add custom make/deploy steps in qtcreator if you want. | 19:54 |
| jonni | rash_m2k: or if you have installed allcapa opensh, you can just edit tmp size on the fly like: opensh -c "mount -n -t tmpfs -o remount,size=8M,noatime tmpfs /tmp";#this would change 4MB to 8MB :) | 19:56 |
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| jabis | jonni: btw - I had a question - can I cancel a signal from bubbling? | 20:05 |
| jonni | rash_m2k: there is also a bit more official libs docs in here: http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/How_to_deploy_and_link_a_shared_library_on_Harmattan | 20:05 |
| jonni | jabis: hmm, what you mean by bubbling? | 20:05 |
| jabis | jonni: cancel the event propagation - like intercept a signal - stop event propagation - do my stuff - resume | 20:07 |
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| jonni | jabis: if you mean to setup custom eventfilter, then yes, and google is full of examples. | 20:08 |
| jabis | jonni: more like cancel the hardcoded events - I couldn't find out anything that can negate a certain event, like pressing vol-up / -down from doing it's default action | 20:09 |
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| jabis | I'm now wondering can I capture certain stuff and reroute a few default behaviours :) | 20:11 |
| jabis | (as a daemon) | 20:12 |
| rash_m2k | thanks guys - I'll take a look at the docs now | 20:14 |
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| jonni | jabis: there is no easy way, you could patch kernel keypad module on kernel level (by making custom twl4030_keypad module) or patch Qt, but it would require hacked capas. | 20:30 |
| jabis | jonni: exactly my question :) | 20:30 |
| jabis | jonni: so it's a no go with qt | 20:30 |
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| MohammadAG | Vol Up/Down is handled by the system-ui plugin | 20:33 |
| itsnotabigtruck | jonni: opensh -c -> ariadne | 20:34 |
| itsnotabigtruck | the new shiny | 20:34 |
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| jabis | MohammadAG: I know - I can kill and resume, but it's hardly a "best practise" :) | 20:36 |
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| jabis | MohammadAG: I'd have to disable ~70% of the daemons and that's exactly what I'm trying to avoid :) | 20:37 |
| MohammadAG | jabis, no idea, Fremantle had a DBus signal to kill listening, I wonder if that carried over | 20:39 |
| MohammadAG | actually it did | 20:39 |
| MohammadAG | whether it's DBus or not is something else | 20:39 |
| MohammadAG | camera uses vol up/down to zoom | 20:39 |
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| jabis | MohammadAG: if you find me a clue, I'd be glad ^^ | 20:59 |
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| heymaster-laptop | Can't make ListView to update :/ | 21:59 |
| heymaster-laptop | http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Discussion/showthread.php?236877-Qt-QML-ListView-Refresh-ListView | 22:00 |
| heymaster-laptop | 2 days trying to do :/ | 22:00 |
| heymaster-laptop | Even if i call insert function. return qobject_cast<QObject*>(model) ; << never changed model->rowcount() | 22:05 |
| heymaster-laptop | Do I need to implement insertrows deleterows subclass methods ? | 22:06 |
| heymaster-laptop | and setData ? | 22:06 |
| heymaster-laptop | Because I haven't implemented them | 22:07 |
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