| itsnotabigtruck | Aranel: yeah...that's not normal | 00:01 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | and the flag djszapi stated waits until the battery is charged | 00:02 |
| itsnotabigtruck | so it's not going to do anything :/ | 00:02 |
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| Aranel | oh, okay. so should I just try with R&D mode and one last flash and declare it dead? | 00:02 |
| itsnotabigtruck | you're not the first person with a mysteriously bricked phone, what on earth is going on | 00:02 |
| Aranel | by the way, it's not a hw fault, which makes me confused. He just tried to flash it to PR1.1 (from beta2, or sth ancient like that) and now it's brick. | 00:03 |
| itsnotabigtruck | my n9 was stuck on the nokia logo this morning after some ill-advised experimentation, but a rootfs+emmc flash to pr1.1 stock did the trick | 00:03 |
| Sazpaimon | ok design question for real now | 00:04 |
| Sazpaimon | http://i.imgur.com/WZ7p8.png | 00:04 |
| Sazpaimon | how can I make this look better | 00:04 |
| torarne | Sazpaimon: add margins around your content | 00:05 |
| Aranel | Sazpaimon: o.O Steam? | 00:05 |
| itsnotabigtruck | alignment alignment alignment alignment | 00:05 |
| Aranel | (sorry I'm not helpful :p) | 00:05 |
| itsnotabigtruck | pull up some existing account plugins from nokia | 00:05 |
| itsnotabigtruck | make them look like that | 00:05 |
| torarne | yeah, what itsnotabigtruck said | 00:05 |
| itsnotabigtruck | use the nokia pure font for everything, never ever ever use swissa for anything | 00:05 |
| Aranel | margins and center it to the screen maybe. | 00:05 |
| itsnotabigtruck | (i.e. the font you're using on the desc text) | 00:06 |
| itsnotabigtruck | also mention steam guard somewhere | 00:06 |
| Sazpaimon | also i guess I should make the bottom two buttons toolbar buttons | 00:06 |
| itsnotabigtruck | well, get rid of cancel, that's what the back button is for | 00:06 |
| Sazpaimon | actually the back button isnt supposed to be there | 00:06 |
| itsnotabigtruck | normally submit code would be a wide centered button | 00:06 |
| itsnotabigtruck | often black on white | 00:06 |
| itsnotabigtruck | keep the back button there | 00:06 |
| itsnotabigtruck | make it the cancel button | 00:07 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and read up on the harmattan ui design convention manual | 00:07 |
| Sazpaimon | clicking cancel will delete the account and exit | 00:07 |
| Sazpaimon | otherwise i'm left with a broken account that can't connect | 00:07 |
| Aranel | itsnotabigtruck: and now It's booting okay. Huh, that was weird :| | 00:07 |
| itsnotabigtruck | Aranel: strange... | 00:07 |
| Aranel | I set it to R&D and disabled all watchdogs/lifeguard, flashed it again (not with --flash-only flag) | 00:08 |
| itsnotabigtruck | sorry if i'm being a little harsh Sazpaimon | 00:08 |
| Aranel | and now It's working. | 00:08 |
| Sazpaimon | itsnotabigtruck, its ok | 00:08 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it's good you're working on making it look nice | 00:08 |
| Sazpaimon | i have absolutely no design skills whatsoever | 00:08 |
| itsnotabigtruck | most people don't, those apps are garbage | 00:08 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | e.g. the font thing, so simple, but so commonly ignored | 00:08 |
| Sazpaimon | well i guess I could make back go back to the login screen | 00:09 |
| Sazpaimon | but still delete the account from missioncontrol | 00:09 |
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| Sazpaimon | [17:05] <itsnotabigtruck> also mention steam guard somewhere | 00:09 |
| Sazpaimon | i actually just copid that text right from the steam guard screen | 00:09 |
| Sazpaimon | steam never actually mentions it unless you're enabling/disabling it | 00:10 |
| Sazpaimon | http://www.kwikpiks.com/files/9/steamguard/authreq.png | 00:10 |
| Sazpaimon | [17:06] <itsnotabigtruck> normally submit code would be a wide centered button | 00:11 |
| Sazpaimon | what if the submit code is only 4-6 characters | 00:11 |
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| Sazpaimon | also, I already have: | 00:21 |
| Sazpaimon | #if defined(MEEGO_EDITION_HARMATTAN) | 00:21 |
| Sazpaimon | app.setFont(QFont("Nokia Pure Text")); | 00:21 |
| Sazpaimon | #endif | 00:21 |
| Sazpaimon | so why is my text not using pure? | 00:22 |
| Sazpaimon | do I need to specifically set the family in it? | 00:22 |
| itsnotabigtruck | hm | 00:22 |
| itsnotabigtruck | can't help you there, weird | 00:22 |
| Sazpaimon | oh | 00:22 |
| Sazpaimon | apparently MEEGO_EDITION_HARMATTAN isnt defined? | 00:23 |
| Sazpaimon | weird | 00:23 |
| Sazpaimon | yet HARMATTAN_BOOSTER is defined | 00:25 |
| Sazpaimon | i guess ill just use that | 00:25 |
| itsnotabigtruck | Sazpaimon: can't you get rid of the ifdef entirely...face it, this part is just for harmattan | 00:26 |
| itsnotabigtruck | all other meego is dead on arrival anyway | 00:26 |
| itsnotabigtruck | well, it never even really arrived, dead or not | 00:26 |
| Sazpaimon | itsnotabigtruck, i wanted to port this to maemo | 00:27 |
| itsnotabigtruck | ah | 00:28 |
| Sazpaimon | :/ | 00:29 |
| Sazpaimon | i guess I'll just remove it for now | 00:29 |
| Sazpaimon | itsnotabigtruck, do you suggest making the input box wide even if the auth code is only 4-6 characters? | 00:31 |
| itsnotabigtruck | Sazpaimon: not the input box, the button | 00:33 |
| itsnotabigtruck | not sure about the box | 00:34 |
| itsnotabigtruck | how about putting a caption on it and having the input box fill in the rest of the width | 00:34 |
| itsnotabigtruck | like Validation code [ ] | 00:34 |
| Sazpaimon | that could work | 00:34 |
| itsnotabigtruck | ok, so looking at the exiting accounts-ui stuff | 00:35 |
| itsnotabigtruck | the google plugin uses full-width input boxes with username: and password: above the box in small text | 00:35 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and a wide sign in button below | 00:35 |
| Sazpaimon | yeah | 00:35 |
| Sazpaimon | they all do that | 00:35 |
| Sazpaimon | but the input boxes for those are variable width | 00:35 |
| itsnotabigtruck | true, true | 00:35 |
| itsnotabigtruck | still makes sense though | 00:36 |
| itsnotabigtruck | so it would be | 00:36 |
| itsnotabigtruck | Validation code | 00:36 |
| itsnotabigtruck | [ ] | 00:36 |
| Sazpaimon | i guess for conformity | 00:36 |
| itsnotabigtruck | as for what back button does... | 00:36 |
| itsnotabigtruck | might it be possible for this box to pop up at any time? | 00:37 |
| itsnotabigtruck | does the steam guard authorization expire? | 00:37 |
| itsnotabigtruck | or is it one-time guaranteed | 00:37 |
| Sazpaimon | the box only pops up during connection | 00:37 |
| itsnotabigtruck | btw shouldn't this thing be using oauth or something? | 00:37 |
| itsnotabigtruck | during connection or during account add | 00:37 |
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| Sazpaimon | during account add, but I hook into the enabling event | 00:37 |
| Sazpaimon | which makes it connect | 00:37 |
| Sazpaimon | if steam sends back invalid crededntials error, it means either the password is incorrect or steam guard is on | 00:38 |
| Sazpaimon | no way to know specifically | 00:38 |
| Sazpaimon | the "what email?" button would address the possiblity of incorrect password | 00:38 |
| itsnotabigtruck | the point is, is it possible it could be initiated on e.g. the reboot of the phone | 00:39 |
| itsnotabigtruck | djszapi: kanagram 0.2 just bugged out a few rounds in | 00:47 |
| itsnotabigtruck | after getting a word wrong, when the upper box was highlighted in red it went blank except for an R at the end, which carried over | 00:48 |
| itsnotabigtruck | so now i have 7 letters at once when there's 6 blanks :p | 00:48 |
| Sazpaimon | at any rate, Im not sure how persistent steamguard codes are | 00:48 |
| Sazpaimon | i think it may just be safer to have it be handled not long after login | 00:48 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | how are incorrect passwords handled currently | 00:51 |
| itsnotabigtruck | https://negrielectronics.com/nokia-n9-00-black-unlocked.html damn, $440 now | 00:52 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | 18 votes on the bug so far | 00:53 |
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| Sazpaimon | itsnotabigtruck, its assumed the password was correct and steam guard isn't enabled | 00:59 |
| Sazpaimon | *is enabled | 00:59 |
| itsnotabigtruck | Sazpaimon: err, sorry, i meant in other apps | 01:00 |
| itsnotabigtruck | well, plugins | 01:00 |
| Sazpaimon | the account is added still | 01:00 |
| Sazpaimon | and the user has the opportunity to change their password afterward | 01:00 |
| Sazpaimon | the problem with this is that even if the password is correct, the status screen will show "Incorrect password" for that account | 01:01 |
| Sazpaimon | even if the password is right and the user just hasnt put in their steam guard code | 01:01 |
| Sazpaimon | thats not a very informative error | 01:01 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | Sazpaimon: right, i'm just saying that you should take however incorrect passwords are handled as a cue for steam guard ui | 01:05 |
| itsnotabigtruck | however on second thought that's not such a hot idea, hmm | 01:05 |
| itsnotabigtruck | are you sure there's no differentiation between bad password and steam guard blocking? | 01:05 |
| itsnotabigtruck | on a protocol level | 01:05 |
| Sazpaimon | the web API does return different messages for both | 01:06 |
| Sazpaimon | but they're both mapped to the same telepathy command, invalid credentials | 01:06 |
| Sazpaimon | well not command, status reason | 01:06 |
| Sazpaimon | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/libtelepathy-qt4-1-doc/group__enumtypeconsts.html#gafcefb23369c2cf510f27775670294c6c | 01:08 |
| Sazpaimon | i dont think there's another status that qualifies | 01:08 |
| Sazpaimon | the only other way is to do a completely manual API call | 01:09 |
| Sazpaimon | bypassing any telepathy and haze stuff | 01:10 |
| Sazpaimon | but i really want to avoid doing that | 01:10 |
| rzr | itsnotabigtruck: can you help on osc keygen | 01:17 |
| rzr | ? | 01:17 |
| rzr | # rzr@lap:home:rzr/ # [2] # osc signkey --create | 01:19 |
| rzr | Server returned an error: HTTP Error 400: Bad Request | 01:19 |
| rzr | don't know how to create a key | 01:19 |
| itsnotabigtruck | rzr: oh hey | 01:36 |
| itsnotabigtruck | ok...that's odd | 01:36 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i don't have an OBS repository myself, so i can't test on my end...but i think you're doing it correctly | 01:36 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and that means it's likely something is b0rked on the server | 01:37 |
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| rzr | itsnotabigtruck: it looks like , yes | 01:46 |
| rzr | well that a reason to push some app to a.f.m.o | 01:46 |
| itsnotabigtruck | rzr: does obs use http or https | 01:48 |
| itsnotabigtruck | try wiresharking when you run the command | 01:48 |
| itsnotabigtruck | see if there's any detail in the error message beyond error 400 | 01:49 |
| itsnotabigtruck | rzr: fwiw it seems that your repo still works on pr1.2 | 01:53 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it seems that the bug is only triggered if certain hash fields are present and as long as OBS doesn't change then it isn't a problem | 01:53 |
| rzr | certain hash fields ?? | 01:54 |
| rzr | probally aegis packages ? | 01:55 |
| itsnotabigtruck | rzr: nah | 02:00 |
| itsnotabigtruck | package hashes as part of the apt packages file | 02:01 |
| rzr | it's still unclear for me | 02:01 |
| itsnotabigtruck | aegis allows a package to assert privileges based on its 'origin' | 02:02 |
| itsnotabigtruck | the origin is determined based on what key the package is signed by | 02:02 |
| itsnotabigtruck | there's two ways to sign a package, a) by putting the signature in the package | 02:02 |
| itsnotabigtruck | or b) by signing the repository the package comes from, in the same way debian/ubuntu/etc. do it | 02:02 |
| rzr | ok i agrea | 02:02 |
| itsnotabigtruck | part b works by having a gpg signature that protects the packages file | 02:03 |
| itsnotabigtruck | which contains hashes of all the packages that the repository contains | 02:03 |
| rzr | but those signatures arent uploaded to obs | 02:03 |
| itsnotabigtruck | well, if obs signkey worked, obs would automatically make the signatures | 02:03 |
| rzr | so the builder cant verify the sources | 02:03 |
| itsnotabigtruck | the problem is that aegis tries to check for scenario B | 02:04 |
| itsnotabigtruck | but it fails entirely if the repository isn't signed | 02:04 |
| itsnotabigtruck | however, it seems that it only does that *if* the repository contains sha1/sha256 hashes | 02:04 |
| rzr | then they expect us to put those aegis file in debian/ | 02:04 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and it seems obs doesn't put those there | 02:04 |
| itsnotabigtruck | no, the signature stuff doesn't go in te .aegis file | 02:04 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | the signature is on the binary package, not the source code | 02:05 |
| rzr | ok | 02:05 |
| rzr | makes sence | 02:05 |
| rzr | but obs only accept sources packages as input | 02:05 |
| itsnotabigtruck | right | 02:05 |
| itsnotabigtruck | so it goes | 02:05 |
| rzr | so there is no way for A | 02:05 |
| itsnotabigtruck | obs accepts source package -> obs builds source package into binary package -> obs adds binary package to APT list -> obs signs APT list | 02:06 |
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| rzr | well let me sniff that error | 02:06 |
| rzr | brb | 02:06 |
| itsnotabigtruck | k | 02:06 |
| faenil | guys hack needed | 02:06 |
| faenil | help please | 02:06 |
| faenil | how can I stop qml frow drawing into an area? | 02:06 |
| faenil | it keeps redrawing over my gl area | 02:06 |
| faenil | I have two frames flickering | 02:07 |
| faenil | like the last but one frame | 02:07 |
| faenil | which is drawn by qml (which is drawing the UI in the meanwhile) | 02:07 |
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| faenil | and the last frame with is drawn by my code | 02:07 |
| faenil | and it keeps flickering between the two | 02:08 |
| faenil | I want qml to stop painting on that area | 02:08 |
| faenil | is there any hack I can use? | 02:08 |
| itsnotabigtruck | faenil: vote for bug 978 | 02:08 |
| _MeeGoBot_ | Bug https://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=978 maj, High, ---, ext-lavanya.alamuri, NEW, Platform SDK repository lacks APT signature - incompatible with PR1.2 | 02:08 |
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| rzr | itsnotabigtruck: https :-( | 02:10 |
| rzr | itsnotabigtruck: lets try again on http | 02:10 |
| rzr | itsnotabigtruck: no way | 02:11 |
| itsnotabigtruck | rzr :/ hmmmm | 02:13 |
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| rzr | well lets hope this issue will gain the appropriate priority | 02:15 |
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| rzr | itsnotabigtruck: btw is debian keyring involved into our apt setups ? | 02:19 |
| itsnotabigtruck | rzr: harmattan doesn't include debian's keys...you could load them if you want | 02:20 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i'd have to double-check but i think aegis doesn't prevent adding additional PGP keys to apt | 02:21 |
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| flat` | laitoin kynttilöi rivii ja bongin siihe vartaalle | 02:21 |
| flat` | hyvät vapotukset | 02:21 |
| itsnotabigtruck | however, aegis won't trust those additional pgp keys for additional privileges | 02:21 |
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| rzr | most of my packages are not using aegis privileges | 02:22 |
| itsnotabigtruck | just the normal privileges (which if you have dev mode on, are the devmode/ovi/appsformeego privileges) | 02:22 |
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| Sazpaimon | this may be a dumb question, but in qml, how do I bind when a context changes | 02:35 |
| Sazpaimon | either from qml or qt using setContextProperty | 02:35 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | anyone know if it usually takes a long time to get c/obs approval from the relevant people? | 03:33 |
| beford | i think you have to ask lbt or X-Fade manually to get approved | 03:39 |
| itsnotabigtruck | beford: yeah, i pinged them on #meego like it says | 03:45 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i don't hang out in #meego but it seems like neither of them have ever really been around that much | 03:45 |
| beford | I believe lbt is from UK so give it a couple of hours for him to appear :P | 03:52 |
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| djszapi | rzr: here | 03:56 |
| djszapi | itsnotabigtruck: cannot reproduce | 03:56 |
| djszapi | itsnotabigtruck: X-Fade and lbt give accounts out here as well, no worry. | 04:00 |
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| djszapi | Sazpaimon what do you mean ? | 04:01 |
| djszapi | flat`: it is an English channel, essentially. | 04:02 |
| itsnotabigtruck | djszapi: cannot reproduce...what | 04:02 |
| itsnotabigtruck | oh, the kanagram bug | 04:02 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it definitely happened, the question is when it happens | 04:03 |
| djszapi | Sazpaimon: MEEGO_EDITION_HARMATTAN -> why do you need it ? | 04:04 |
| djszapi | itsnotabigtruck: yes, please, try to figure out how you reproduce it. | 04:04 |
| itsnotabigtruck | after the bug hit, i had [ R] and [MADRID] (scrambled) | 04:04 |
| djszapi | Aranel: -0wait is not the correct option name. | 04:05 |
| itsnotabigtruck | actually it must have been MADRID with one char substituted to R | 04:05 |
| itsnotabigtruck | anyway, after deanagramming it, it rejected it | 04:05 |
| djszapi | itsnotabigtruck: I understood the behavior, just cannot reproduce | 04:05 |
| itsnotabigtruck | djszapi: right, but explaining the scenario might help track it down from the code side | 04:05 |
| djszapi | I do not have any idea how that could happen | 04:06 |
| djszapi | looking at the code, it seems ok | 04:06 |
| itsnotabigtruck | also i let the phone sit for a while, it might have had some anagram timeouts first | 04:07 |
| djszapi | jpwhiting: there ? I have a kde edu app idea. | 04:08 |
| djszapi | beford: have you voted for the bug in question ? | 04:10 |
| beford | yes | 04:10 |
| djszapi | cool | 04:10 |
| beford | secureapt one right? | 04:10 |
| djszapi | yes, about the Nokia SDK repo signing. | 04:10 |
| beford | yes I did some hours ago | 04:11 |
| djszapi | nice. | 04:11 |
| itsnotabigtruck | kanagram could really use some music to rock to while you're kanagramming | 04:16 |
| djszapi | was thinking of that, but it is not material for 0.2.0. | 04:17 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | hm, just tried meecast | 04:34 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it's nice, but it would be nicer were it to use the nokia font :p | 04:35 |
| itsnotabigtruck | djszapi: kanagram is missing maemo-display-name and maemo-icon-26 | 04:41 |
| itsnotabigtruck | or whatever it's called | 04:41 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i'd have thought ovi would screen for that stuff, all my other installed ovi apps have icons | 04:42 |
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| djszapi | itsnotabigtruck: why would I need that ? | 04:43 |
| itsnotabigtruck | djszapi: so it shows up with a nice icon on the applications list | 04:44 |
| djszapi | what is "applications list" ? | 04:44 |
| itsnotabigtruck | settings > applications > manage applications, what else would it be | 04:44 |
| djszapi | applauncher list | 04:45 |
| djszapi | that it could be | 04:45 |
| djszapi | but that works. | 04:45 |
| djszapi | so no problem for me. | 04:45 |
| itsnotabigtruck | no icon, and it says kanagram in lower case (package name) | 04:45 |
| itsnotabigtruck | because your control file doesn't have xb-maemo fields in it | 04:45 |
| djszapi | perhaps I can add it for the next version. | 04:45 |
| djszapi | (if any) | 04:46 |
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| djszapi | I guess I should add "XB-Maemo-Upgrade-Description" too | 04:48 |
| djszapi | itsnotabigtruck: btw, you meant XB-Maemo-Icon-26 and XB-Maemo-Display-Name ? | 04:55 |
| djszapi | XSBC-Maemo-Display-Name* | 04:56 |
| flat` | djszapi: yeah i know.. didnt mean to write here | 04:58 |
| djszapi | flat`: thanks... | 04:59 |
| Sazpaimon | [21:03] <djszapi> Sazpaimon: MEEGO_EDITION_HARMATTAN -> why do you need it ? | 05:01 |
| Sazpaimon | so I can set nokia pure as the default font | 05:01 |
| Sazpaimon | but only for harmattan | 05:02 |
| itsnotabigtruck | djszapi: yup | 05:03 |
| itsnotabigtruck | either XB or XSBC will work - XSBC = Extension: Source Binary Changes | 05:03 |
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| djszapi | Sazpaimon: what does not work ? | 05:04 |
| Sazpaimon | djszapi, it's not getting defined, apparently | 05:04 |
| djszapi | it is | 05:05 |
| Sazpaimon | code within #if defined(MEEGO_EDITION_HARMATTAN) is not running | 05:05 |
| djszapi | Sazpaimon: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Reference_documentation_Porting_applications_to_Harmattan.html?tab=3&q=MEEGO_EDITION_HARMATTAN&sp=all | 05:06 |
| djszapi | coding considerations: -> | 05:06 |
| djszapi | have you included "#include "qplatformdefs.h" ? | 05:06 |
| djszapi | and your project file is okay, right ? | 05:07 |
| Sazpaimon | that file should be included from qmlapplicationviewer shouldnt it? | 05:07 |
| djszapi | wherever you would like to use the macro.. | 05:08 |
| djszapi | since that header file defines it. | 05:08 |
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| Sazpaimon | my main.cpp has qmlapplicationviewer.h included, which handles all that | 05:10 |
| Sazpaimon | its the file that qt creator generates for you | 05:11 |
| djszapi | open up the header | 05:11 |
| djszapi | and check out | 05:11 |
| djszapi | also, make sure the pro file is correct... | 05:11 |
| itsnotabigtruck | anyone know how difficult it is to perform surgery on the N9 to exchange the battery? | 05:11 |
| itsnotabigtruck | fortunately i don't need to do that, but i was just thinking about that | 05:11 |
| djszapi | hard | 05:12 |
| djszapi | someone documented it, but not simple. | 05:12 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | yeah, according to the service manual it looks like you have to remove a plate first | 05:13 |
| itsnotabigtruck | for some reason the manual says not to re-use any of the torx screws | 05:14 |
| djszapi | itsnotabigtruck: http://minus.com/mbdR8EKKGs#1 | 05:14 |
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| djszapi | check the settings > application > manage thingy. | 05:15 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | looks good going by dpkg -I | 05:18 |
| djszapi | not sure whether I should hold the ovi review request back | 05:18 |
| djszapi | and submit again.. | 05:19 |
| itsnotabigtruck | icon looks a little illegible...was it rasterized at that res or downsized | 05:19 |
| djszapi | well | 05:19 |
| djszapi | it was svg given to the harmattan icon generator. | 05:20 |
| itsnotabigtruck | so rasterized, probably | 05:20 |
| * itsnotabigtruck shrugs | 05:20 | |
| djszapi | I am not sure how that works, sorry. | 05:21 |
| itsnotabigtruck | anyway, it's certainly not worth delaying the ovi thing for that... | 05:21 |
| djszapi | other tool, I used, is uuencode | 05:21 |
| djszapi | so no edition by my, I have just provided an svg icon in the beginning | 05:22 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i should probably give my calendarrrrrrr app an icon, but it'll be obsolete on the order of a week anyway, heh | 05:23 |
| itsnotabigtruck | http://www.cellink.com.au/prodimages/Section17_Images_200/bv-5jw.jpg | 05:28 |
| itsnotabigtruck | lol, the N9 battery looks nothing like that | 05:28 |
| itsnotabigtruck | a bunch of these battery shops just photoshopped the part number onto some generic nokia battery | 05:28 |
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| Sazpaimon | what would cause my ToolBarLayout to not show at the bottom | 06:22 |
| Sazpaimon | the toolbar is showing, but im not getting it at the bottom | 06:22 |
| djszapi | Sazpaimon: show your code | 06:35 |
| Sazpaimon | djszapi, i figured it out | 06:35 |
| Sazpaimon | i wasnt setting the tools variable | 06:35 |
| Sazpaimon | whoops | 06:35 |
| djszapi | heh | 06:36 |
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| Sazpaimon | djszapi, have I mentioned that this is my first real Qt/QML project? | 06:37 |
| Sazpaimon | Im a gtk guy myself | 06:37 |
| Sazpaimon | and even then that's normally with plain C | 06:37 |
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| djszapi | yes, you mentioned many times ;-) | 06:40 |
| djszapi | any devs on Windows in here ? | 06:47 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | djszapi: shoot | 06:58 |
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| djszapi | itsnotabigtruck: would need someone to test my qt5 patch | 07:06 |
| itsnotabigtruck | oh wonderful :/ last time i did a qt build it took on the order of overnight | 07:14 |
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| djszapi | itsnotabigtruck: what username would you like to have on c-obs ? | 08:23 |
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| djszapi | lbt X-Fade c-obs (at least the Harmattan target) does not build anything. | 08:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Sazpaimon: ooh, a GTK guy | 09:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | Sazpaimon: how about looking into designing a alternative slider-type pushbutton, to LD_PRELOAD it with fremantle dialer? | 09:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | maybe even patch the dialer binary so the button name has one char changed, to point to your new slider-type button for "ACCEPT" and "REJECT" buttons | 09:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | Sazpaimon: I'd be willing to patch the dialer and package the whole thing, but I'm no gtk guy to design such a slider pushbutton | 09:57 |
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| Jaffa | Morning | 12:01 |
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| fiferboy | Hi Jaffa | 14:25 |
| Siva | Hi.. has anyone tried using QML Camera to capture a photo? | 14:38 |
| jonni | Siva: works nicely, although you might need to do trickery on orientation handling. | 14:39 |
| Siva | jonni: I tried code from the example here: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/qtmobility/declarative-camera.html. But all i get is a black screen.. | 14:40 |
| djszapi | Siva: have you actived the "work!" boolean flag ? ;) | 14:41 |
| Siva | djszapi: well I assumed thats a given :D | 14:42 |
| beford | it worked for me Siva | 14:49 |
| Siva | beford: The view finder is visible when the page loads with the Camera element? | 14:50 |
| mgedmin | lol, http://open-advice.org/ in the n9's browser is funny | 14:52 |
| mgedmin | what on earth happened to the fonts? | 14:52 |
| djszapi | no idea, but that book is wonderful, read it ! | 14:52 |
| beford | Siva, yes, I tried this example https://projects.developer.nokia.com/QZXing | 14:52 |
| djszapi | itsnotabigtruck: btw, I think aegis-install is not a regression | 14:54 |
| djszapi | I think it is an improvement actually. | 14:54 |
| djszapi | it does not hide a bad behavior anymore. | 14:55 |
| djszapi | so I think signing the Nokia SDK repository is the real fix, or just drop the signing with any confusion involved altogether. | 14:55 |
| djszapi | LOL, Ovi Store updated my application in one day ! | 14:56 |
| mgedmin | wow my n9 is not responding to input | 14:57 |
| djszapi | mgedmin: not even for hammer ? | 14:57 |
| mgedmin | I thought it was supposed to be a touch phone, not a hammer phone | 14:57 |
| djszapi | I use my feet for playing the fingerdrum :D | 14:58 |
| mgedmin | it unfroze | 14:59 |
| mgedmin | loadavg 6.40 | 14:59 |
| petteri | is there any way ssh -X to n9 and open windows locally | 15:00 |
| mgedmin | vmstat shows constant 60% system and 50% iowait load; no swwapping, almost no io | 15:00 |
| mgedmin | scratch that; no io at all | 15:00 |
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| mgedmin | top attributes those 60% to kswapd0 | 15:01 |
| djszapi | I mean seriously.... application update in one day ? That is really awesome! | 15:01 |
| * mgedmin closes ALL THE APPS | 15:01 | |
| mgedmin | and the system is idle again | 15:02 |
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| pa | i have a little problem with the N9 here.. i hvae installed the battery meter, and now it just told me that it detected battery draining. in the last 4 days it was4mW during idle, and now it is 6mW | 15:11 |
| pa | what can it be? | 15:11 |
| pa | i added filebox, kmplayer and somethingtv99 (adviced by kmplayer guy) | 15:11 |
| pa | is there a "ps" or "top" in harmattan? | 15:11 |
| djszapi | yes | 15:12 |
| mgedmin | mW or mA? | 15:12 |
| djszapi | kmplayer ? | 15:12 |
| djszapi | why would you do that ? | 15:12 |
| pa | you mean why would i add kmplayer? | 15:13 |
| pa | to play music over http without downloading it | 15:13 |
| djszapi | yup | 15:13 |
| djszapi | was it revamped in qml ? | 15:13 |
| pa | i think | 15:13 |
| djszapi | qt-components* | 15:13 |
| pa | someone pointed it to me yesterday | 15:13 |
| pa | here | 15:13 |
| djszapi | who was that ? | 15:14 |
| pa | moment | 15:14 |
| djszapi | blueslee | 15:14 |
| djszapi | http://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/%23harmattan.2012-02-21.log.html#t2012-02-21T15:57:13 | 15:14 |
| jonni | yes there is ps and top in commandline. | 15:15 |
| djszapi | http://my-meego.com/software/applications.php?name=KMPlayer&fldAuto=96&faq=2 | 15:15 |
| pa | blueslee | 15:15 |
| pa | mgedmin, mA | 15:15 |
| pa | i try to remove the stuff i installed | 15:20 |
| pa | to see whether it fixes it | 15:20 |
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| mgedmin | sigh, _my_ avg idle usage is 19 mA | 15:21 |
| mgedmin | and here you're concerned about 6... | 15:22 |
| pa | but how comes? | 15:22 |
| pa | what do you run while idle? | 15:22 |
| mgedmin | well, I usually have a browser open with google.com/reader/i | 15:22 |
| mgedmin | and fbreader | 15:22 |
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| mgedmin | and there are those periodic services like weather or twitter | 15:23 |
| pa | well.. i have no applications open while idle | 15:23 |
| pa | no twitter | 15:23 |
| pa | no nothing | 15:23 |
| mgedmin | turning on google talk + skype makes the phone warm and idle usage jump to 40-50 mA | 15:23 |
| pa | so i wonder what increased to 6mA | 15:23 |
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| djszapi | interesting that, the screenshots are updated, but not the content yet. | 15:31 |
| djszapi | ovi, that is | 15:31 |
| pa | mgedmin, do you know every how much is the battery drain updated? | 15:31 |
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| mgedmin | pa, not really... | 15:33 |
| djszapi | admiral0__ pa mgedmin vote for this bug, if I see it as a potential issue: https://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=978 (and of course, just in case you have not already done that) | 15:39 |
| _MeeGoBot_ | Bug 978 maj, High, ---, ext-lavanya.alamuri, ASSI, Platform SDK repository lacks APT signature - incompatible with PR1.2 | 15:39 |
| mgedmin | do I have an account in harmattan-bugs? | 15:40 |
| mgedmin | why you no support openid, bugzilla :( | 15:40 |
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| Siva | beford: Not sure what I doing wrong.. i am just pushing this page: http://pastebin.com/jQvm2ppX. on the click of a button and I am getting only a black screen instead of the view finder.. | 15:47 |
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| jonni | Siva: item is fullscreen on top of camera? have you tried to set z-order for camera? :) | 15:52 |
| Siva | jonni: yep I did.. tried z:15.. no luck.. | 15:53 |
| djszapi | Siva: I have good luck pill somewhere in this building... :) | 15:59 |
| Siva | djszapi: I thought those were over last february ;) | 16:00 |
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| beford | Siva, what firmware are you running? that's the only thing that comes to my mind, it works for me ok on 1.1 | 16:12 |
| Siva | beford: I am running 1.2.. | 16:14 |
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| pa | is there any way to keep the phone recording video with the camera application in background? | 16:25 |
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| admiral0__ | djszapi: voted yesterday | 16:30 |
| djszapi | so not vote :) | 16:34 |
| itsnotabigtruck | vote early vote often | 16:36 |
| itsnotabigtruck | :p | 16:36 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | hm, now that i'm logged into obs everything just times out | 16:42 |
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| Siva | beford: I figured it out.. it required some aegis magic :P now the orientation handling trickery.. jonni could you give ur pointers on this.. | 16:47 |
| beford | evil aegis | 16:48 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | btw what was the trick again required to get OBS to inject the _aegis file? | 16:50 |
| itsnotabigtruck | iirc there's a problem where the aegis manifest script doesn't run | 16:50 |
| itsnotabigtruck | that's all a moot point though if i can't do anything while logged in though... | 16:51 |
| itsnotabigtruck | can anyone else access OBS while authenticated? | 16:51 |
| djszapi | the fact that aegis-install is not properly configured | 16:51 |
| djszapi | and it is not even a trivial task. | 16:52 |
| djszapi | otherwise we would have eliminated the hash spammy lines, too. | 16:52 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | djszapi: regarding the osc signkey thing, it looks like the project has to be specified explicitly | 17:16 |
| itsnotabigtruck | so i *think* osc signkey --create home:rzr ought to work | 17:18 |
| itsnotabigtruck | not sure if rzr himself has to do that however | 17:18 |
| itsnotabigtruck | since my OBS account is on the fritz i can't test for myself :p | 17:19 |
| itsnotabigtruck | there's also a --http-full-debug argument that can be passed to osc to make it dump out http info | 17:19 |
| itsnotabigtruck | no wireshark needed | 17:19 |
| djszapi | *sighs* | 17:20 |
| djszapi | the Nokia SDK BPO has also answered a very negative one about this signing.. | 17:20 |
| itsnotabigtruck | awesome | 17:21 |
| itsnotabigtruck | so they won't fix their installer and they won't fix their repository, is what this is sounding like | 17:21 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and the very fact that the signing bug kicks in on some repos and not others is proof positive this is definitely not some intentional security feature | 17:22 |
| itsnotabigtruck | even if people are claiming it is after the fact | 17:22 |
| itsnotabigtruck | in any case, bug 978 is up to 27 votes | 17:23 |
| _MeeGoBot_ | Bug https://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=978 maj, High, ---, ext-lavanya.alamuri, ASSI, Platform SDK repository lacks APT signature - incompatible with PR1.2 | 17:23 |
| itsnotabigtruck | a bunch of those happened just this morning | 17:23 |
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| djszapi | is it really a huge job to make a signature ? | 17:38 |
| djszapi | I thought it was not too big job... | 17:38 |
| itsnotabigtruck | keep in mind that when you brought it up with the SDK people they might have thought you wanted them to sign the SDK repo with a trusted key | 17:41 |
| itsnotabigtruck | which could be a security liability and depending on how careful nokia is with its keys, could be complicated | 17:42 |
| itsnotabigtruck | but yeah, it's very easy to sign the repo | 17:42 |
| itsnotabigtruck | http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt#Setting_up_a_secure_apt_repository | 17:42 |
| itsnotabigtruck | you sign Release and put the signature in Release.gpg | 17:43 |
| itsnotabigtruck | that's pretty much it | 17:43 |
| itsnotabigtruck | djszapi ^ | 17:43 |
| itsnotabigtruck | except that the current Release file doesn't contain hashes... | 17:44 |
| itsnotabigtruck | if they're using dpkg-scanpackages they might need to switch to apt-ftparchive | 17:45 |
| djszapi | it should be a fairly straight-forward job | 17:46 |
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| djszapi | so any devs here on Windows ? | 17:57 |
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| djszapi | qt development is like few hours to write a patch, and then asking for people to help with mac and windows :D | 17:57 |
| gri | djszapi: I just rebooted from windows to linux again :) | 17:57 |
| djszapi | how does that help for me ? :) | 17:58 |
| gri | nothing | 17:58 |
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| gri | but you can have a remote desktop on my mac for testing if you want | 17:58 |
| djszapi | mac works. | 17:59 |
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| befr0d | my win7 vm's stopped working with the latest kernel upgrade, can't help you | 18:03 |
| gri | djszapi: What needs to be tested? | 18:04 |
| djszapi | gri: qt5 patch | 18:04 |
| djszapi | itsnotabigtruck: some people at Nokia: http://cascadeclimbers.com/plab/data/500/dick-head-tshirt.jpg :P | 18:04 |
| jonni | Siva: put Camera inside Rectangle, like: Rectangle { anchors.fill: parent; rotation: screen.currentOrientation == 1 ? 90 :0; Camera { .... | 18:05 |
| djszapi | (just joking) | 18:05 |
| djszapi | itsnotabigtruck: but yeah, best if I do the job for them ... | 18:08 |
| djszapi | gri: also, I lost my sake for testing when git bash did not work. I will not use nmake and so on. | 18:08 |
| Siva | jonni: that solves the view finder but the captured picture is still in the wrong orientation.. any workarounds for that? | 18:11 |
| itsnotabigtruck | lol | 18:11 |
| jonni | Siva: post processing in c++ :) | 18:12 |
| itsnotabigtruck | damn, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82495 is off the 1st forum page | 18:12 |
| beford | forcing landscape maybe easier | 18:13 |
| beford | :d | 18:13 |
| Siva | jonni: got it! any bug filed already for this that I could follow? | 18:13 |
| Siva | beford: unfortunately my app needs to be in portrait :( | 18:14 |
| jonni | there was a bug (or feature), but dont remember the bug number anymore. | 18:14 |
| beford | I was thinking about the camera ui, when you rotate it seems like only the button image rotates | 18:16 |
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| beford | maybe its some 'fake' portrait mode, don't know :P | 18:17 |
| jonni | buts its only few lines of code to hackaround with QImage and QTransform. | 18:17 |
| beford | thats good then :P | 18:18 |
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| djszapi|windows | heck, getting windows support is not funny in qt :) | 19:23 |
| djszapi|windows | all sort of pita thingie... | 19:23 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | beford: are you nbedford on tmo? just replied to your post about calendarrr (i think) | 19:38 |
| beford | nop, munozferna | 19:39 |
| itsnotabigtruck | heh ok | 19:39 |
| itsnotabigtruck | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82495 could someone post something here? | 19:40 |
| itsnotabigtruck | (the pr1.2 apt signing thread) | 19:40 |
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| beford | done | 19:47 |
| itsnotabigtruck | w00t | 19:48 |
| beford | i said hi | 19:48 |
| beford | xD | 19:48 |
| itsnotabigtruck | just need to keep the thread visible for a while to ensure enough outrage gets generated | 19:48 |
| beford | jk, got it into the track of the question again | 19:48 |
| beford | also added a question | 19:48 |
| djszapi|windows | just say "fuck aegis(TM)" | 19:48 |
| itsnotabigtruck | lol | 19:48 |
| djszapi|windows | and get popcorn :) | 19:48 |
| itsnotabigtruck | as for the sdk, not sure - aegis skips a lot of stuff on scratchbox | 19:49 |
| itsnotabigtruck | also since they aren't exactly doing much of a job keeping the scratchbox sdk up to date nothing will change in all likelihood | 19:49 |
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| beford | oh its aegis that is blocking it? i thought it was about the apt/secureapt thing | 19:50 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | beford: aegis contains logic that checks for apt signatures | 19:50 |
| beford | well fuck aegis | 19:50 |
| beford | xD | 19:50 |
| itsnotabigtruck | the packages from the main nokia repo aren't actually signed themselves, the repo is signed through apt | 19:50 |
| djszapi|windows | beford: no, it is SDK issue | 19:50 |
| djszapi|windows | beford: why ? | 19:51 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it's both... | 19:51 |
| djszapi|windows | we made it this way to ensure about the proper signing | 19:51 |
| djszapi|windows | it was missing previously, so it got the bug hidden | 19:51 |
| beford | fuck both? :P not sure, just blaiming aegis :D | 19:51 |
| djszapi|windows | if the signing was messed up in a repository | 19:51 |
| itsnotabigtruck | just because the sdk repo ought to be signed doesn't mean aegis is working properly | 19:51 |
| itsnotabigtruck | signing the repo is a mitigation, not a fix | 19:52 |
| djszapi|windows | no | 19:52 |
| djszapi|windows | it is /the/ fix | 19:52 |
| djszapi|windows | otherwise, the sdk repo can remove the bogus stuff | 19:52 |
| djszapi|windows | so it is getting working then as with the comm repo | 19:52 |
| * djszapi|windows back to windows qt5 testing | 19:52 | |
| djszapi|windows | so somehow the SDK repo is in between state | 19:55 |
| djszapi|windows | which is wrong | 19:55 |
| djszapi|windows | aegis-install did not detect it previously, and it now does. | 19:55 |
| djszapi|windows | meanwhile aegis-install can be fixed, the SDK repo modification is for sure a way to the nice fix. | 19:56 |
| djszapi|windows | still not sure what exactly messes up aegis install since I do not know the details | 19:56 |
| djszapi|windows | might be that, that would also need some fixing, but changing a core component in the system is no go anyway in this stage | 19:57 |
| djszapi|windows | I am pretty sure this regression happened because of a change in this core component | 19:57 |
| djszapi|windows | and the maintainer could not test it out since we do not use internally this SDK repository. | 19:57 |
| djszapi|windows | so the bug was not caught. | 19:57 |
| djszapi|windows | and there are many other situations like that | 19:57 |
| djszapi|windows | so praying for aegis-install fix is no go imho | 19:57 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | djszapi|windows: and the fact that no one at nokia actually uses that repo is a problem in and of itself | 20:00 |
| itsnotabigtruck | when everything is divided into "the real stuff" and "the public stuff" | 20:00 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it's no surprise that the scraps that get thrown out for outside devs get neglected | 20:01 |
| djszapi|windows | no | 20:01 |
| djszapi|windows | as I said, that is not hte problem | 20:01 |
| djszapi|windows | since this repo was not meant for device usage | 20:01 |
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| djszapi|windows | so this repo is normally no go anyway | 20:01 |
| djszapi|windows | we should not deal with this | 20:01 |
| djszapi|windows | it was a missing documentation, that is all | 20:01 |
| djszapi|windows | so we built more layers on top of it sadly. | 20:01 |
| itsnotabigtruck | well, there's also the problem of the sdk repo not being in sync with > beta 3 | 20:01 |
| djszapi|windows | that is why we need this repo fixed, but my vote is still migrating out of this repo | 20:02 |
| djszapi|windows | beta3 should be got rid of | 20:02 |
| djszapi|windows | once they fix this, if any | 20:02 |
| djszapi|windows | we need to poke X-Fade to nuke it | 20:02 |
| djszapi|windows | and we need to being importing packages. | 20:02 |
| djszapi|windows | to be* | 20:02 |
| djszapi|windows | this fix is just about not pulling out the ground underneath | 20:03 |
| djszapi|windows | not eternal savior. | 20:03 |
| djszapi|windows | this repo can have zillion issues | 20:03 |
| djszapi|windows | since it was not tested inside the security framework | 20:03 |
| djszapi|windows | same with other teams probably as well | 20:03 |
| itsnotabigtruck | well, it would probably be a good idea to build everything from sdk_sources_pr1.2 (if that ever gets released...) | 20:06 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and put that in a repo, and hopefully load it into obs | 20:06 |
| djszapi|windows | why would we need to load that into obs ? | 20:09 |
| djszapi|windows | you do not have that repo loaded into scratchbox either | 20:10 |
| djszapi|windows | nor into madde. | 20:10 |
| itsnotabigtruck | djszapi|windows: to build stuff against pr1.1 and pr1.2 apis | 20:12 |
| djszapi|windows | why | 20:12 |
| djszapi|windows | it is not a requirement for apps4meego | 20:12 |
| itsnotabigtruck | because those apis do thing and those things can be useful | 20:12 |
| itsnotabigtruck | what kind of question is that | 20:12 |
| djszapi|windows | also you can have it fine in teh repository anyway | 20:12 |
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| djszapi|windows | not sure I understand what you are talking about. | 20:13 |
| djszapi|windows | we would have a pr1.1 and pr1.2 separation | 20:13 |
| djszapi|windows | done. | 20:13 |
| djszapi|windows | just like there is now with the harmattan and harmattan3, something similar yeah | 20:14 |
| itsnotabigtruck | well, for example, my calendarrr app, it depends on an api added to libtimed-dev >= 2.51 which allows trigger on zone change | 20:14 |
| djszapi|windows | we do not need to bloat the bootstrap bit of c-obs | 20:14 |
| itsnotabigtruck | beta3 ships with libtimed-dev = 2.50 | 20:14 |
| djszapi|windows | especially because one or two people can only update then | 20:14 |
| djszapi|windows | instead of the whole community | 20:14 |
| itsnotabigtruck | sure, you don't need trigger on zone change in the common case | 20:14 |
| itsnotabigtruck | but the world never got anywhere by building things to the absolute lowest requirement | 20:15 |
| djszapi|windows | no | 20:15 |
| djszapi|windows | apps/tools have the packages for ovi | 20:15 |
| djszapi|windows | that you can use there. | 20:15 |
| djszapi|windows | so as for ovi, you should never really use this Nokia SDK repository | 20:16 |
| itsnotabigtruck | er, we aren't even talking about ovi | 20:16 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and second, what i'm complaining about is the fact that apps/tools are 6 months ahead of the sdk repo | 20:16 |
| itsnotabigtruck | which you SHOULD be able to use for building your apps in the first place, from scratchbox | 20:16 |
| itsnotabigtruck | the justification was that ovi requires pr1.0 compatibility anyway, but not everything is destined for ovi | 20:17 |
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| djszapi|windows_ | so as for ovi development, it is rather dangerous to use this repo anyway | 20:17 |
| djszapi|windows_ | apps/tools overlap should be nuked | 20:18 |
| djszapi|windows_ | and the left-over should be put into the community repository | 20:18 |
| djszapi|windows_ | and be done | 20:18 |
| djszapi|windows_ | so honestly: we made a huge mistake | 20:19 |
| djszapi|windows_ | but not by our dumbness | 20:19 |
| djszapi|windows_ | because they were not taking care of writing 1! sentence into the doucmentation | 20:20 |
| djszapi|windows_ | "Hey guys, this repo is not meant for production use" | 20:20 |
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| RzR | hi | 20:35 |
| RzR | any progress on signing repo ? | 20:36 |
| itsnotabigtruck | RzR: try specifying your repo name explicitly on the osc command | 20:36 |
| itsnotabigtruck | osc signkey --create home:... | 20:36 |
| itsnotabigtruck | also there's a command line argument that will cause osc to dump all its http requests | 20:37 |
| itsnotabigtruck | way easier than trying to sniff it | 20:37 |
| itsnotabigtruck | --http-full-debug | 20:37 |
| RzR | did try that yesterday | 20:37 |
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| RzR | i remember I used that before too | 20:38 |
| itsnotabigtruck | as for the bug, there's a whole bunch more votes on it and it got changed from NEW to ASSIGNED | 20:38 |
| itsnotabigtruck | other than that, nothing new | 20:38 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i'm supposed to have an OBS account now and i'd be able to test with that, except OBS times out if i try to do anything while logged in | 20:39 |
| itsnotabigtruck | very strange issue | 20:39 |
| RzR | # osc --http-full-debug signkey home:rzr 2>&1 | grep Error | 20:39 |
| RzR | Server returned an error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found | 20:39 |
| RzR | header: X-Opensuse-Errorcode: unknown | 20:39 |
| RzR | header: X-Opensuse-Errorcode: unknown | 20:39 |
| RzR | header: X-Opensuse-Errorcode: unknown_project | 20:39 |
| itsnotabigtruck | hrm, unknown_project eh | 20:39 |
| RzR | osc --http-full-debug signkey home 2>&1 | grep Opensuse | 20:40 |
| RzR | header: X-Opensuse-APIVersion: 2.3.0 | 20:40 |
| RzR | header: X-Opensuse-Errorcode: unknown | 20:40 |
| RzR | header: X-Opensuse-APIVersion: 2.3.0 | 20:40 |
| RzR | header: X-Opensuse-Errorcode: unknown_project | 20:40 |
| RzR | we're screwed | 20:40 |
| RzR | we're not existing | 20:40 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | rzr: try running another command instead | 20:46 |
| itsnotabigtruck | that accepts a project name | 20:46 |
| itsnotabigtruck | maybe it requires some weird syntax for the name | 20:46 |
| RzR | like ls ? | 20:47 |
| RzR | or checkout ? :) | 20:47 |
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| RzR | are there any param to grep in ? osc config --dump-full | 20:51 |
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| djszapi|windows_ | damn | 21:29 |
| djszapi|windows_ | I got stuck in the Nokia building | 21:29 |
| djszapi|windows_ | apparently the gate does not work after 9pm | 21:29 |
| jaywink | djszapi|windows_, call security, they will let you out :) | 21:30 |
| djszapi|windows_ | I am from the security team ;) | 21:31 |
| jaywink | :D | 21:32 |
| djszapi|windows_ | right, let us call the bodyguards... | 21:32 |
| merlin1991 | first world problems, complaining on irc that one is stuck in a building :D | 21:32 |
| djszapi|windows_ | actually I was thinking of staying here :P | 21:33 |
| vLassi | djszapi|windows_: that is pretty cool, you can talk all the way going out :P | 21:33 |
| * vLassi been there | 21:33 | |
| Anssi138 | djszapi did you stuck in aquarium? :) | 21:33 |
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| djszapiN9 | i realized why ovi accepted kanagram in one day. | 21:40 |
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| djszapiN9 | it is because they did not accept the content, just the screenshot. Thereby, they are a bit obscure with the mail. | 21:43 |
| djszapiN9 | also accepting the screenshot distinctly from the content is strange from end user pov... | 21:44 |
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| beford | i think there is a bug about that djszapi | 21:48 |
| beford | djszapiN9 | 21:48 |
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| djszapiN9 | keep an eye on nokia at mwc btw | 21:58 |
| beford | I believe it was filled by this guy https://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=942 if you care enough to filter the bugs reported by him | 21:59 |
| _MeeGoBot_ | Bug 942 nor, ---, ---, ext-risto.lahti, ASSI, unable to update (0.0.x changed) an application without payment | 21:59 |
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| Sazpaimon__ | I love how google searching meego doesnt even have meego.com as the first result | 22:05 |
| * Sazpaimon__ rolls eyes | 22:05 | |
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| djszapiN9 | beford, that repost is not much use | 22:08 |
| Sazpaimon__ | hey guys | 22:09 |
| Sazpaimon__ | http://i.imgur.com/L7fFt.png | 22:09 |
| Sazpaimon__ | those inputs | 22:09 |
| djszapiN9 | since we had it reported internally long ago | 22:09 |
| jaywink | been trying not to use MeeGo personally, people always ask "Isn't it dead?" .. Nokia should just call it Harmattan or Maemo 6 .. as long as it can be called anything anyway ;) | 22:09 |
| Sazpaimon__ | how do they have that deselected color | 22:09 |
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| djszapiN9 | Sazpaimon, using platform style | 22:10 |
| Sazpaimon | its off white when's deselected and pure white when selected | 22:10 |
| ZogG_laptop | Sazpaimon: what is this blue icon there? | 22:11 |
| Sazpaimon | ZogG_laptop, on the top? | 22:12 |
| ZogG_laptop | Sazpaimon: yes | 22:12 |
| Sazpaimon | next to bluetooth? its the voicemail icon | 22:12 |
| Sazpaimon | i never check my voicemai | 22:12 |
| Sazpaimon | its almost always bill collectors | 22:12 |
| ZogG_laptop | i never had those =) | 22:12 |
| ZogG_laptop | never saw it | 22:13 |
| Sazpaimon | djszapiN9, also, how do they get the username and password text like that. I'm using a column layout and I dont see any way to change the spacing on a per cell basis | 22:13 |
| Sazpaimon | i had to resort to manually setting y values | 22:14 |
| Sazpaimon | i really need to learn more qml... | 22:14 |
| ZogG_laptop | djszapiN9: internal is nokia or qt? | 22:14 |
| djszapiN9 | Sazpaimon, margins | 22:18 |
| djszapiN9 | and spacing | 22:18 |
| djszapiN9 | ZogG_laptop, it is a nokia ovi store issue, not qt. | 22:18 |
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| ZogG_laptop | djszapiN9: so can you ask guy from internal for this bug to comment (https://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493) | 22:27 |
| _MeeGoBot_ | Bug 493 nor, ---, ---, ext-risto.lahti, ASSI, better libxauth documentetion and usage examples | 22:28 |
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| djszapiN9 | i will not | 22:33 |
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| djszapiN9 | and damn you, i forgot to press the get off button on the bus because of replying to you | 22:34 |
| ZogG_laptop | djszapiN9: ok | 22:35 |
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| matrixx | djszapiN9: heh, one for twitter again, I've done it too | 22:44 |
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| djszapiN9 | matrixx, mmh ? | 22:51 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | strange, i ordered some cds from a shop in the UK, they shipped from switzerland | 22:59 |
| djszapi | is there nice swiss chocolate with it ? :P | 23:00 |
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| djszapi | Windows*Qt combination is killing me.. | 23:00 |
| Chaz6 | I'm still hoping there might one day be a standard Qt library installer for windoes (like msvc, .net etc) | 23:03 |
| Chaz6 | *windows | 23:03 |
| itsnotabigtruck | could someone type a lowercase crossed o :p | 23:03 |
| Chaz6 | ø | 23:03 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | oh yay, finally found it | 23:03 |
| jaywink | a lowercase crossed o | 23:03 |
| itsnotabigtruck | øøøøøøøøø | 23:04 |
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| Chaz6 | AltGr+l on us-international layout | 23:04 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i need to set up an international layout on my windows install | 23:04 |
| Chaz6 | Weird that there's no uk-international or au-international | 23:04 |
| itsnotabigtruck | the problem with the stock one is that instead of AltGr it uses dead keys | 23:04 |
| itsnotabigtruck | as in, when you type an apostrophe you don't get an apostrophe unless you press it twice | 23:05 |
| itsnotabigtruck | no thanks :/ | 23:05 |
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| Chaz6 | Well it uses both altgr and dead keys | 23:05 |
| djszapi | dead keys with dead platforms ftw :) | 23:05 |
| Chaz6 | I like the dead keys | 23:05 |
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| Chaz6 | makes accents easy | 23:05 |
| itsnotabigtruck | not that much easier than altgr+apos e though | 23:05 |
| Chaz6 | there are 4 or 5 different accents you can give characters | 23:06 |
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| Chaz6 | with altgr you could only get one accent | 23:06 |
| Chaz6 | óòöõ is easy with dead keys | 23:07 |
| itsnotabigtruck | well, you'd use altgr together with different keys | 23:07 |
| itsnotabigtruck | like ms word uses ctrl+apos (acute), ctrl+comma (cedille), ctrl+backtick (grave), ctrl+shift+colon (diaeresis/umlaut), etc. | 23:07 |
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| ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: ☭ | 23:22 |
| itsnotabigtruck | ZogG_laptop: hehe | 23:23 |
| itsnotabigtruck | too bad putty can't do font substitution, anything other than the basic stuff comes up as a blank | 23:24 |
| itsnotabigtruck | like the most awesome unicode symbol evar | 23:24 |
| ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: so u can't see it? | 23:24 |
| ZogG_laptop | ♥ =) | 23:25 |
| itsnotabigtruck | ZogG_laptop: just had to copy and paste :p | 23:25 |
| ZogG_laptop | ø | 23:25 |
| itsnotabigtruck | ☊☁☂✿♕※‽ | 23:25 |
| ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: did you copy them too? | 23:26 |
| ZogG_laptop | i don't remember how to make a small man | 23:26 |
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| ZogG_laptop | gonna google it | 23:26 |
| ZogG_laptop | found snow man ☃ | 23:27 |
| Chaz6 | Do you have pile of poo yet? | 23:27 |
| Chaz6 | U+1F4A9 | 23:28 |
| ZogG_laptop | Chaz6: on linux here | 23:29 |
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| Chaz6 | http://unicode.org/charts/PDF/Unicode-6.0/U60-1F300.pdf | 23:29 |
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| gri | phew, porting something from harmattan to maemo5 is not as easy as I thought :( | 23:38 |
| itsnotabigtruck | :( | 23:39 |
| matrixx | djszapi: or actually one for irc, and one for twitter, I also missed my bus stop one time.. | 23:39 |
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| ZogG_laptop | matrixx: he missed it coz he was excited to tell that he has connections but don't care to help. =) karma is a biatch =) | 23:49 |
| itsnotabigtruck | http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/q14ma/meanwhile_on_a_german_highway/c3tvx9p?context=1 | 23:49 |
| itsnotabigtruck | djszapi: did you manage to get out of nokia prison? :p | 23:49 |
| itsnotabigtruck | what kind of corporate HQ doesn't have a way to leave after hours...ridiculous | 23:51 |
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| ZogG_laptop | X-Fade: ping | 23:54 |
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