| ieatlint | how do you enable swype? | 00:00 |
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| ieatlint | i mean, i have it turned on, but the old keyboard is all that comes up | 00:01 |
| kimju | ieatlint, swipe left/right in the vkb area | 00:04 |
| Milhouse | swipe from the right to the left on the keyboard - it should change to swype | 00:04 |
| ieatlint | ah, indeed | 00:05 |
| ieatlint | thanks :) | 00:05 |
| ieatlint | weird no skype | 00:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | moo javispedro - how's life? | 00:07 |
| javispedro | well, as usual... | 00:07 |
| ieatlint | also, it's not the least bit confusing i'm using a keyboard called swype in a ui called swipe and complaining i don't have skype | 00:07 |
| javispedro | Was reading this http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot | 00:08 |
| ieatlint | there needs to be a skipe | 00:08 |
| javispedro | ieatlint: ok, I will see to fix that ASAP | 00:08 |
| ieatlint | :) | 00:08 |
| ieatlint | please post the cease and desist when you get it | 00:08 |
| mja | hw kbd + terminal + swype vrt kbd not working great | 00:09 |
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| mja | start terminal with hw keyboard, then close it and I'm not seeing swype kbd pop up | 00:09 |
| mja | (close hw kbd I mean) | 00:10 |
| scifig | Does mounting N950 filesystem via sshfs work? Now that root login disabled in PR 1.1. Sorry, I am not at home and don't have a linux box to test. | 00:10 |
| ieatlint | mja: i can confirm this behaviour | 00:11 |
| crevetor | After upgrading my N950 I get this : | 00:11 |
| crevetor | RM680-22-6_PR_RM680:~# /usr/sbin/rdc_cert_verify | 00:11 |
| crevetor | /usr/sbin/rdc_cert_verify: Could not read RD cert (-3) | 00:11 |
| crevetor | So no root access via ssh | 00:11 |
| mja | ieatlint: great, I'll look into reporting it tomo unless you make it first | 00:11 |
| ieatlint | if you use the hkb with terminal, you can't get the vkb back | 00:12 |
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| mja | ieatlink: that pretty much sums it up | 00:12 |
| javispedro | crevetor: I have to ponder which kind of diagnosis path made you deduce that? =) | 00:12 |
| ieatlint | mja: if you press the menu key, it fixes it | 00:12 |
| ieatlint | press menu key, close menu, vkb pops up | 00:12 |
| ieatlint | report the bug :) | 00:13 |
| ieatlint | but at least there's a workaround that doesn't require exiting terminal | 00:13 |
| mja | yeah seems to fix it | 00:13 |
| mja | but leaves only top 7 rows in operation | 00:13 |
| mja | and I'm not seeing the toolbar w/ hkbd | 00:14 |
| crevetor | javispedro: "ps ax" see that ssh daemon was started with permitRootLogin=no check /etc/init/ssh.conf and check why that was | 00:15 |
| crevetor | javispedro: is there something wrong with that thought process ? | 00:15 |
| mja | hm OK, hit menu button to disable screen and then pop out hkbd, seems to work | 00:15 |
| apol | does anybody know what package is supposed to install gstreamer's theoraenc in harmattan? | 00:17 |
| javispedro | crevetor: post the new ssh.conf | 00:17 |
| crevetor | javispedro: hold on | 00:18 |
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| crevetor | javispedro: http://pastie.org/2726260 | 00:21 |
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| scifig | Was just looking at that file ssh.conf. Dumb question, does modifying the file /etc/init/ssh.conf brick the device? | 00:23 |
| javispedro | yep | 00:23 |
| javispedro | not that sure about /etc/default/ssh, feel free to brick yours. | 00:23 |
| crevetor | javispedro: what do you mean ? | 00:24 |
| javispedro | changing /etc/default/ssh wouldn't break beta2. | 00:25 |
| crevetor | but changing it in /etc/default/ssh won't fix anything anyways | 00:25 |
| Milhouse | editing /etc/default/ssh won't have any impact. what about this /usr/sbin/rdc_cert_verify - that seems to be the key... | 00:25 |
| crevetor | Milhouse: yeah and I pasted the output of that command earlier here | 00:26 |
| crevetor | I'm wondering ig enabling r&d mde through flasher would fix that | 00:26 |
| scifig | Milhouse: I am wondering who get's to have that certificate. Just the Nokia devs may be | 00:26 |
| javispedro | you really should rethink whether changing /etc/default/ssh does not have an impact | 00:26 |
| Milhouse | running it outputs "Could not read RD cert (-3)" - R&D mode? | 00:27 |
| javispedro | I'm not going to say anything more in case SOMEONE and I'm not pointing fingers to anyone tells me again that because of my fault exploits are being found everywhere | 00:27 |
| crevetor | javispedro: we could move this discussion to an unlogged channel... | 00:27 |
| javispedro | I really hope that SOMEONE is reading the above discussion, will point it to him when he tells me it's my fault again... | 00:29 |
| crevetor | javispedro: did someone at nokia say anything to you ?! | 00:30 |
| javispedro | no, not from nokia. | 00:30 |
| crevetor | javispedro: so who cares ? | 00:30 |
| ieatlint | heh | 00:31 |
| ieatlint | i can guess what you're suggesting | 00:31 |
| ieatlint | it depends on the behaviour of sshd as to whether that works | 00:31 |
| javispedro | in the meanwhile, I'd never think I'd say this, but Blackberry now raises as a viable opensource friendly company too.. | 00:31 |
| javispedro | http://blackberry.github.com/ndk/components.html | 00:31 |
| javispedro | I cannot believe they ported OpenTTD | 00:31 |
| crevetor | ok it doesn't seem to be related to r&d mode :( | 00:32 |
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| crevetor | I'm gonna try and trace /usr/sbin/rdc_cert_verify | 00:34 |
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| Milhouse | swiping from the swipe key to the +!= key brings up an interesting keyboard | 00:37 |
| rm_work | so, is there already a wiki entry all about the SSU that went out today (2.2011.39-5)? | 00:37 |
| Milhouse | sorry, swyping | 00:37 |
| Milhouse | and swype key | 00:37 |
| crevetor | neat | 00:38 |
| ieatlint | Milhouse: oooh | 00:39 |
| ieatlint | nice tip | 00:39 |
| Milhouse | found it by accident, then took several minutes to work out what i'd done. :) | 00:39 |
| ieatlint | crevetor: the stuff is all in /usr/lib/libbb5.so.0.0.0 | 00:40 |
| Milhouse | still no help files in this build, it really does seem to be some kind of frankenstien build | 00:40 |
| crevetor | ieatlint: so it seems | 00:40 |
| ieatlint | and it's definitely looking for a cert | 00:40 |
| crevetor | and bb5 might refer to some hardware component | 00:41 |
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| wazd | Milhouse: hmmm | 00:41 |
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| wazd | Milhouse: easter egg for geeks? :) | 00:41 |
| Milhouse | crevetor: bb5 base band 5, locking system on nokia phones | 00:42 |
| crevetor | I don't know it seems to be looking on the MTD partition | 00:43 |
| ieatlint | well, there's a potential hole... rdc_cert_verify links against /usr/lib/libbb5.so.0, which is a symlink to libbb5.so.0.0.0 | 00:44 |
| ieatlint | and while rdc_cert_verify is protected by aegis, and libbb5.so.0.0.0 is, it does not appear the symlink is | 00:44 |
| ieatlint | so you could in theory replace libbb5... but that's a lot of work and risk for root access on ssh | 00:45 |
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| SpeedEvil | Isn't filesystem level replacement pointless if you can't match the hash of libbb* | 00:45 |
| ieatlint | SpeedEvil: yes, but if you leave libb5.so.0.0.0 alone, and just update the symlink of libb5.so.0, it should work methinks | 00:46 |
| SpeedEvil | Doesn't it verify what's loaded? | 00:46 |
| SpeedEvil | hmm | 00:46 |
| * SpeedEvil should try to understand this in detail at some point. | 00:47 | |
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| DocScrutinizer | heh, you're about to hack bb5 now? XD | 00:48 |
| ieatlint | no, i'm not :P | 00:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | good luck | 00:48 |
| crevetor | I'm sure there's a sane explanation to all this | 00:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | crevetor: BB5 is the modem | 00:49 |
| crevetor | docScrutinizer: I know that but maybe they forgot to tell us something... | 00:50 |
| ieatlint | which means that replacing libbb5 might get rdc_cert_verify to be happy, but would make a lot of other things very very unhappy | 00:50 |
| ieatlint | unless you did some horrible proxying, which is simply unrealistic | 00:50 |
| SpeedEvil | Can you go back to the current image? | 00:51 |
| SpeedEvil | err | 00:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | ...or just get a sane OS, possibly on a sane good hardware ;-P | 00:51 |
| SpeedEvil | previous. | 00:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | nope, I bet you can't | 00:51 |
| crevetor | could it be an R&D flag & | 00:51 |
| crevetor | ? | 00:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | what? | 00:51 |
| crevetor | lol | 00:51 |
| ieatlint | i think you can, because you didn't flash a new image, but updated an existing image | 00:52 |
| ieatlint | but not sure, and not going to try right now | 00:52 |
| ieatlint | crevetor: it's checking an actual certificate | 00:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's checking the R&D cert that only Nokia devels' devices have | 00:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | which allows then to do things on their devices that we mere mortals mustn't do | 00:53 |
| ieatlint | is /etc/default/ssh monitored by aegis? | 00:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | ieatlint: see my function for this | 00:53 |
| * ieatlint wonders what you get from that cert beyond the ability to install internal images and ssh as root | 00:54 | |
| javispedro | not on beta2. | 00:54 |
| javispedro | ieatlint: on beta1 it was the only way to enter open mode | 00:54 |
| ieatlint | there was an open mode on beta1? that disabled aegis or what? | 00:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/%23harmattan.2011-10-07.log.html#t2011-10-07T11:50:58 | 00:55 |
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| crevetor | ieatlint: seems it's not, I can modify it | 00:55 |
| ieatlint | crevetor: uh, write permissions doesn't mean it's not checked | 00:55 |
| ieatlint | check if the file is in /var/lib/aegis/refhashlist | 00:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | for your convenience I'll repeat: may-I-edit () { grep `basename $1` /var/lib/aegis/refhashlist && echo "probably not" || echo "edit if you feel venturous"; } | 00:55 |
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| ieatlint | haha, yeah | 00:55 |
| ieatlint | i'm not logged in on my phone this second | 00:56 |
| ieatlint | damn, the wifi hotspot app is still unusable :( | 00:57 |
| crevetor | ieatlint: it's not in there... | 00:57 |
| ieatlint | then see doc's comment | 00:57 |
| ieatlint | and it's an issue of sshd behaviour | 00:57 |
| * javispedro tries to remove the frigging update available notification | 00:58 | |
| crevetor | I might try something but I'll have to backup my data first | 00:58 |
| macmaN | hrm. why does 39-5 all of a sudden say account disabled for facebook | 00:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | javispedro: tell me how you did it, I'm annoyed by mine as well | 00:58 |
| rm_work | DocScrutinizer: you know what happens if I try to do an OTA upgrade to 2.2011.39-5 that popped up on my device today? | 00:59 |
| rm_work | GeneralAntilles / RST38h: ^^ | 00:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | rm_work: I guess you bricked the device? | 01:00 |
| rm_work | haven't tried it yet :P | 01:00 |
| rm_work | my rule is, always ask here first! | 01:00 |
| ieatlint | i bricked, had to reflash beta2 | 01:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | rm_work: I'm on beta1 still | 01:00 |
| rm_work | yeah i'm also still on beta1 | 01:00 |
| javispedro | If you try to do an OTA, a grue eats you, and then you die. An offscreen voice asks if you want your possessions identified | 01:00 |
| * rm_work was *not* eaten by a grue. | 01:01 | |
| * SpeedEvil is on 2. | 01:01 | |
| rm_work | is there any actual news / blog post / etc about this update going live? | 01:02 |
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| * SpeedEvil ponders the most important question. Is Angry Birds available on 3. | 01:02 | |
| DocScrutinizer | OMG AB | 01:02 |
| rm_work | or is it just "magically available" with absolutely not a word? | 01:02 |
| javispedro | SpeedEvil: you actually also have some of the EA games | 01:02 |
| SpeedEvil | Oh - there are new versions of lots of things, which seem to install. | 01:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | there's been that "prepare for update! ...do update" blog somewhere | 01:03 |
| javispedro | prepare for update .... do update ... revert update ... prepare for new update ... | 01:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | <http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Blogs/blog/n9-developer/2011/10/14/new-release-of-the-nokia-n950-software-is-coming-soon...-prepare> http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/release/N950-39-5/Nokia_N950_PR11_Release_Notes_v39_5_en.txt | 01:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'm not even curious enough to check that release_notes for any word about paegis again got worse. I don't care if it's listed or not, I bet it got worse no matter what | 01:08 |
| ieatlint | it doesn't say | 01:11 |
| ieatlint | there, i ruined it for you | 01:11 |
| lbt | are there any issues about using the beta1 n950 as mass storage on linux? | 01:11 |
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| javispedro | lbt: do not remember a problem, what kind of issues? | 01:11 |
| lbt | well, it appears in dmesg as usb 5-4: Product: N950 | 01:11 |
| lbt | scsi 18:0:0:0: Direct-Access Nokia N950 0316 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 | 01:12 |
| lbt | sd 18:0:0:0: [sdh] Attached SCSI removable disk | 01:12 |
| lbt | but won't mount | 01:12 |
| lbt | no partition table | 01:12 |
| lbt | and cfdisk says it can't open it | 01:12 |
| javispedro | it's superfloppy, no partition table | 01:12 |
| macmaN | right ive experienced that | 01:13 |
| lbt | never heard of superfloppy ... will look - does it need a module? | 01:13 |
| macmaN | but reconnecting it always made it visible | 01:13 |
| javispedro | lbt: teoretically no, mount -t vfat /dev/sd? should make it work | 01:14 |
| lbt | mount: special device /dev/sdh does not exist | 01:14 |
| * lbt is wondering if udev is sad .... | 01:15 | |
| lbt | ah ... try using the right console... | 01:15 |
| lbt | mount: no medium found on /dev/sdh | 01:16 |
| javispedro | did you hit "USB Mass Store" on the popup menu in the N950? | 01:16 |
| javispedro | *Storage | 01:16 |
| lbt | I did | 01:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | muhahaha superfloppy | 01:16 |
| javispedro | that shows up when I don't hit it | 01:16 |
| javispedro | weird, maybe a n950 reboot is in order... | 01:18 |
| lbt | javispedro: OK - ta.... | 01:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | lbt: I'm about to check | 01:19 |
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| lbt | OK - would be interested... | 01:20 |
| lbt | rebooting though | 01:20 |
| lbt | mmm | 01:20 |
| lbt | it thinks the time is "3: 0" | 01:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | lbt: no problems at all here: plug in, unlock to get to "mass storage" selector, on PC KDE select "open in filebrowser" from requester popping up | 01:21 |
| lbt | good | 01:21 |
| crevetor | javispedro: what was your idea on what to put in /etc/default/ssh ? | 01:21 |
| javispedro | lbt: "minor" font rendering issue | 01:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | lbt: 23:20 | 01:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | today the "2" is your luccky digit | 01:22 |
| lbt | hehe | 01:22 |
| javispedro | beta2 is virtually mandatory maily because eventually you'll not be able to invoke the dialer | 01:22 |
| javispedro | *mainly | 01:22 |
| lbt | I want to boot Nemo | 01:23 |
| lbt | I've spent far too long doing community and infra work without playing on the devices | 01:23 |
| javispedro | :) | 01:24 |
| lbt | "not enough power to charge" now | 01:25 |
| lbt | and won't even appear as a usb device :) | 01:25 |
| lbt | yay .. .plug into laptop and it's there :) | 01:26 |
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| faenil | evening! :) | 01:29 |
| faenil | past midnight actually xD | 01:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | hah, same here on my T900, not even repeated stoping starting of bme and replugs to charger did help. Plug into PC and *voila* | 01:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | faenil: UGT | 01:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~ugt | 01:31 |
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| faenil | lol | 01:31 |
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| macmaN | sup guys | 02:07 |
| faenil | ntn? XD | 02:07 |
| macmaN | who's still on 34-2 and has some twitter and fb items in his feed screen? id like to know something about an issue | 02:07 |
| macmaN | http://www.ideasproject.com/ideas/11395 | 02:10 |
| macmaN | a "add ability to choose custom background image to home screens" idea won first week and n9 device, ridiculous | 02:11 |
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| artemma | So N9 has got Skype and N950 hasn't? | 02:12 |
| artemma | :/ | 02:12 |
| pinheiro | artemma: its has | 02:12 |
| pinheiro | it has | 02:12 |
| pinheiro | works fine | 02:13 |
| macmaN | yeah im running skype too, but the damn account ui would be nice | 02:13 |
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| pinheiro | http://wiki.meego.com/Migrating_from_N900_to_N950 artemma | 02:13 |
| artemma | hmm. I've heard there's skype engine, but no UI without magic | 02:13 |
| pinheiro | look in the botom | 02:13 |
| macmaN | MohammadAG copied UI package files from N9 RDA device | 02:14 |
| artemma | oh, I though it's about skype chat only | 02:14 |
| artemma | *I thought* | 02:14 |
| pinheiro | well the missing ui bit is rely just the hadding the acount | 02:14 |
| macmaN | i was really hoping for skype ui in this fw update | 02:14 |
| pinheiro | after you do that it works | 02:14 |
| pinheiro | like the n9 i think | 02:15 |
| artemma | funny, I wonder what the reason for not including UI is if MohammadAG was able to just copy files | 02:15 |
| pinheiro | aka no video calls | 02:15 |
| pinheiro | "Note that this is a temporary hack as these services will be properly integrated in future firmware. " | 02:15 |
| artemma | pinheiro: you mean after I do http://wiki.meego.com/Migrating_from_N900_to_N950#GTalk_and_Skype_account_setup ? | 02:15 |
| pinheiro | yes | 02:15 |
| pinheiro | contacts work call work im works | 02:16 |
| artemma | does it add the same stuff as in UI? | 02:16 |
| artemma | just wondering | 02:16 |
| artemma | same UI stuff as in N9 | 02:16 |
| pinheiro | thin so | 02:16 |
| macmaN | bad thing there's no icons and no nothing for the entries | 02:16 |
| pinheiro | i dont have an n9 | 02:16 |
| macmaN | there are just some seemingly random usernames in the call dialog | 02:17 |
| artemma | aha, I am reading about limitations | 02:17 |
| artemma | yeah, probably it will look a little differently | 02:17 |
| artemma | well, I'll give it a try :) | 02:17 |
| artemma | probably it won't support group chat | 02:17 |
| pinheiro | duno havent tried that | 02:17 |
| artemma | aha, the limitation seems to be that you won't see the online contact status in contacts | 02:18 |
| macmaN | hrm | 02:18 |
| macmaN | ~ # apt-get install account-plugin-skype | 02:18 |
| macmaN | Reading package lists... Done | 02:18 |
| macmaN | Building dependency tree | 02:18 |
| macmaN | Reading state information... Done | 02:18 |
| artemma | so you need to guess if somebody's online or not | 02:18 |
| macmaN | Package account-plugin-skype is not available, but is referred to by another package. | 02:18 |
| macmaN | ... | 02:18 |
| pinheiro | artemma: nope that i se | 02:18 |
| pinheiro | see | 02:18 |
| pinheiro | it tell me if teh contects are online or not | 02:19 |
| * artemma fires the terminal | 02:19 | |
| pinheiro | artemma: best thing to do is to try it | 02:19 |
| artemma | macmaN: what was that? Were you able to install it via apt-get? | 02:19 |
| macmaN | no, it doesnt find the package | 02:19 |
| macmaN | i also cant find the package that it says refers to account-plugin-skype | 02:20 |
| macmaN | but im not a apt wizard | 02:20 |
| pinheiro | macmaN: it alrady there | 02:20 |
| pinheiro | gii | 02:20 |
| macmaN | if it was emerge, i would be game | 02:20 |
| pinheiro | and im a silly dsigner | 02:20 |
| pinheiro | :D | 02:20 |
| macmaN | iat already there? | 02:20 |
| macmaN | it* | 02:20 |
| pinheiro | it is | 02:20 |
| artemma | silly designers can't start apt-get :) | 02:20 |
| pinheiro | fire the terminal and do "mc-tool add spirit/skype skype string:account=skypename string:password=secretpasswordhere" | 02:21 |
| pinheiro | as root | 02:21 |
| macmaN | telepathy-spirit is already installed also.. | 02:22 |
| macmaN | i have no idea why the account-plugin-skype package isnt available | 02:22 |
| pinheiro | cmon | 02:23 |
| pinheiro | reapeat after me | 02:23 |
| pinheiro | it is alrady there | 02:23 |
| pinheiro | haaaaaaa | 02:24 |
| pinheiro | duno | 02:24 |
| artemma | hmm, I ran the mc-tool commands | 02:24 |
| artemma | worked and.. what's next? | 02:24 |
| pinheiro | nothing its done | 02:24 |
| pinheiro | check availability | 02:25 |
| pinheiro | or contacts | 02:25 |
| artemma | tried | 02:25 |
| pinheiro | new contacts shoud appear | 02:25 |
| artemma | aha! | 02:25 |
| artemma | it took a biy of time | 02:26 |
| pinheiro | ;) | 02:26 |
| pinheiro | wecome to skype | 02:26 |
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| pinheiro | :) | 02:26 |
| pinheiro | caling the skype test numbr does not work | 02:26 |
| pinheiro | but regular contact work fine | 02:26 |
| artemma | fck! it started showing today's chat messages in nitifications! :) | 02:27 |
| pinheiro | heheheh | 02:27 |
| pinheiro | yeap | 02:27 |
| pinheiro | skype is like that you can be online in multiple devices | 02:27 |
| pinheiro | so a chat will pop up in your phne | 02:28 |
| macmaN | artemma: separate mobile account is the only way for skype | 02:28 |
| macmaN | otherwise you get killed | 02:28 |
| pinheiro | exageration :D | 02:28 |
| artemma | hmm, I can't see how to call or chat from contacts | 02:28 |
| pinheiro | not from contacts | 02:29 |
| macmaN | yes from contacts | 02:29 |
| pinheiro | chat from the chat app | 02:29 |
| artemma | ? :) | 02:29 |
| pinheiro | call from the phone app | 02:29 |
| macmaN | wait no, i take that back, yes from the phone app | 02:29 |
| pinheiro | yes that part is also missing | 02:30 |
| artemma | found it | 02:30 |
| artemma | thanks guys | 02:30 |
| pinheiro | np | 02:30 |
| artemma | I wonder if there's a way to fliter just skype or just google contacts | 02:30 |
| artemma | I've got quite many :) | 02:30 |
| pinheiro | merge them all :D | 02:31 |
| pinheiro | thst what i do | 02:31 |
| pinheiro | so i dont care if im caling from skype or gtlak or whatever | 02:31 |
| macmaN | artemma: tap settings -> show | 02:31 |
| macmaN | in contacts | 02:31 |
| artemma | pinheiro: most of my skype contacts don't wnat to see on mobile :) | 02:31 |
| macmaN | althought in can only choose pb, sim, facebook from there | 02:31 |
| artemma | and then i have not many skype contacts | 02:31 |
| artemma | and even if phonebook could filter skype, you still can't call from it | 02:32 |
| artemma | well, the full integration was not promised by the methof | 02:32 |
| artemma | it's a pity official skype isn't here yet | 02:32 |
| artemma | separate skype account for mobile is handy and not handy. I tried this way, takes too much of notification about your too contacts to everybody | 02:32 |
| artemma | and then again sometimes you are into work stuff on mobile sometimes not | 02:33 |
| macmaN | yep. depends on your contact and multichat count. | 02:33 |
| artemma | real proper way for skype would be twitter-like lists, So that I could enable/-disable some lists for desktop/mobile | 02:33 |
| macmaN | no phone can probably handle my main account very well | 02:33 |
| macmaN | yep | 02:33 |
| pinheiro | you guys got alaxy on Fire app on the update? | 02:34 |
| macmaN | unfortunately their sync protocol is the simplest thing ever created | 02:34 |
| macmaN | pinheiro: apt-get install gof2 | 02:34 |
| artemma | or N9tish hack could create two "skype filtered" accounts to put on/offline separately :) | 02:34 |
| pinheiro | haaa | 02:34 |
| artemma | what's gof2? | 02:34 |
| macmaN | something that crashed for me | 02:34 |
| artemma | BTW, skype group chats seem to work | 02:35 |
| artemma | Holy Cow: New messages: 301 | 02:35 |
| artemma | ! | 02:35 |
| artemma | that's lock screen note after starting with skype : | 02:35 |
| macmaN | but i have to say, nfs and gof2 gfx are impressivez | 02:35 |
| artemma | ) | 02:35 |
| artemma | :) | 02:35 |
| pinheiro | did the root pass changed? | 02:35 |
| artemma | nope | 02:36 |
| * artemma installed that skype under devel-su/rootme | 02:37 | |
| pinheiro | shh root@ip no longuer works | 02:37 |
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| macmaN | aight, im out | 02:42 |
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| rncbc | howdy | 02:44 |
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| rncbc | i need some help please, re. todays n950 device update | 02:44 |
| pinheiro | ask | 02:45 |
| pinheiro | maybe we know | 02:45 |
| rncbc | my n950 got stuck in flight mode and i can't get out of it | 02:45 |
| pinheiro | :) | 02:45 |
| pinheiro | shutdown? | 02:45 |
| rncbc | did restart several times now | 02:46 |
| pinheiro | 8second reset? | 02:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | won't change anything | 02:46 |
| rncbc | always starts in flight mode. ah. lets try that 8second trick... | 02:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | either the modem is "dead", or the setting got stuck in gconf or whatever is storing it persistently | 02:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | there's nothing special in 8s-"trick" | 02:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | it just shits down the hw hard way, if OS is frozen | 02:48 |
| rncbc | the modem is not completely dead. it can do voice calls and receive | 02:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | shuts, mut meh, matches as well | 02:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | mut beh, but meh | 02:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | you can do voice calls in flight mode??? | 02:48 |
| rncbc | yes, emergency calls as it says | 02:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | so wtf is flight mode then? | 02:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer | it SAYS that | 02:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | sounds to me like missing SIM, or SIM PIN not correctly entered | 02:49 |
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| rncbc | yes it says "emergency call" and just tried and it receives calls too | 02:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | it mustn't receive calls in flight mode | 02:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | there's something thoroughly messed up | 02:51 |
| rncbc | does anyone know the default/factory security code of flight mode? i'm stuck with a n950 asking for it | 02:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | I've seen a similar thing for SIP calls, when the account got nuked by apt | 02:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | no idea, I'd try 12345 | 02:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | never knew flight mode needs a security code to unlock | 02:52 |
| rncbc | no. 12345 doesn't work. i've tried that several times now | 02:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | sounds again like SIM card issue, or account messed up | 02:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | your problem is not locked up flight mode, that's not flight mode at all | 02:53 |
| rncbc | i don't think so, the sim pin code gets accepted alright | 02:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | could somebody check if for disabling flightmode you normally need a code, please? | 02:54 |
| rncbc | and i can do calls and receive, but always through the emergency call dial pad only | 02:54 |
| ieatlint | DocScrutinizer: you do not | 02:55 |
| ieatlint | unless that was just added | 02:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | thought as much | 02:55 |
| ieatlint | rncbc: have you tried removing the sim card and booting the phone? | 02:55 |
| ieatlint | see if it's still in flight mode? | 02:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | check this, compare if your problems are faintly similar: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=70875 | 02:55 |
| rncbc | ieatlint: i'll try that... | 02:56 |
| ieatlint | if you turn the phone off in flight mode, it should prompt you on boot whether you want to stay in flight mode or return to normal | 02:56 |
| pinheiro | what is the name of the pacage for needfor spped | 02:57 |
| ieatlint | nfsshift | 02:58 |
| rncbc | ieatlint: booting now w/o sim card... | 02:58 |
| rncbc | no luck. it kepps asking for damn security code. :( | 02:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmmm, apt-cache search account-plugin | 02:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | no plugin for GSM or whatever it might be called | 03:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | SECURITY code? | 03:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | is it actually exactly that? | 03:01 |
| rncbc | yes | 03:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | o.O | 03:01 |
| rncbc | "Enter security code" is what it says | 03:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm, what does it say when you lock your device with a device lock code? | 03:02 |
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| rncbc | DocScrutinizer: how can i know? i can't get out of this "enter security code" thing anyway :( | 03:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | settings -> security -> Device Lock -> <check all that> | 03:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | ooh | 03:03 |
| ieatlint | i suggest you go to munich on monday and look for the scrawniest guy with an n950 who doesn't have a lot of people around him and get a replacement phone | 03:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | so it's not the flight mode, it's simply your device got locked? | 03:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | this would actually explain why you can receive calls and make emergency calls | 03:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | device locked is supposed to act that way | 03:05 |
| rncbc | DocScrutinizer: probably, but during the device update it briefly said that it was turned into "flight mode" somehow | 03:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah, it always does that | 03:05 |
| ieatlint | it might enter flight mode during update | 03:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | unrelated | 03:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | it stops modem when updating the cellmo fw | 03:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | you're facing a "simple" device lock | 03:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | lemme check how this actually looks, never used it | 03:06 |
| ieatlint | yeah, i remember there was a way to reset it on the n900 | 03:07 |
| ieatlint | might be similar | 03:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | for sure not | 03:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | see aegis | 03:08 |
| ieatlint | perhaps | 03:08 |
| ieatlint | but aegis is more about stopping you from fucking with the root system | 03:08 |
| ieatlint | you're probably right though | 03:08 |
| rncbc | the screen is divided in 3 parts: top is blue asking "Enter security code", mid is black with a little phone+ button on the left (emergency call), bottom showns a keyboard pad | 03:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | same here, just without phone as I got no SIM | 03:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | that'S pretty standard device lock | 03:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | as in settings -> security -> Device Lock -> | 03:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | I heard device lock will hit triggered on some conditions during update | 03:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | forgot what it was though | 03:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | and for sure it's pretty bad if you never have set a security code | 03:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | a silly question, you ever tried to hit OK without entering *any* code? | 03:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | wasn't MALF enabling device lock? | 03:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | aah, and swapping SIM allegedly triggers device lock | 03:22 |
| rncbc | DocScrutinizer: ok is disabled when no code is entered | 03:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | aaah | 03:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah, thought as much | 03:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | you're sure you never have set a device lock code? | 03:29 |
| rncbc | i'll have to leave now. i guess tomorrrow i'll try to reflash the n950 ... | 03:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | your only option I guess | 03:29 |
| rncbc | nite | 03:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | o/ | 03:29 |
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| Milhouse | rncbc - did you enable track & protect? | 03:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | please come back and tell what was the end of the story | 03:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | ieatlint: grep lock_code /dev/mtd1 -> nuttin | 03:32 |
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| * DocScrutinizer wonders if you could swipe away the dialer on inbound calls, to get to the settings app | 03:34 | |
| DocScrutinizer | I guess that's a bug they fixed some time ago | 03:35 |
| ieatlint | :( | 03:35 |
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| iekku | morning | 07:49 |
| dm8tbr | mrng | 07:50 |
| * npm wonders if that was *the* rncbc ( http://www.rncbc.org ) | 07:50 | |
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| hiemanshu | anyone tried the OTA as of yet? what seems to be added? | 07:53 |
| nibbler | many small things and what's in http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/release/N950-39-5/Nokia_N950_PR11_Release_Notes_v39_5_en.txt | 07:54 |
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| djszapi | ~seen wazd | 08:28 |
| infobot | wazd <~wazd@broadband-95-84-185-178.nationalcablenetworks.ru> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 7h 46m 56s ago, saying: 'Milhouse: easter egg for geeks? :)'. | 08:28 |
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| hiemanshu | normal for 'Low Memory, Please close some apps' when updating via OTA? | 08:38 |
| dm8tbr | yes, see notes | 08:38 |
| dm8tbr | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/release/N950-39-5/Nokia_N950_PR11_Release_Notes_v39_5_en.txt | 08:38 |
| dm8tbr | * Users may get low memory and connectivity messages during the installation process. These messages can be ignored. | 08:39 |
| hiemanshu | I see | 08:39 |
| Scifig | hiemanshu, FYI - ssh root access is removed. | 08:39 |
| hiemanshu | Scifig: dont need that :P | 08:40 |
| dm8tbr | it's a sane thing not to log on as root | 08:53 |
| dm8tbr | I bet devel-su still works | 08:53 |
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| Kypeli | It's just a shame how badly this removal of root login was communicated by Nokia | 09:05 |
| Kypeli | It's like they never learn anything. | 09:05 |
| frals | uh | 09:06 |
| frals | someone fucked up in that build then | 09:06 |
| frals | because i still have it on mine running a very slightly different build | 09:07 |
| hiemanshu | I get a 'maximum rescue count exceeded' in red font :( | 09:07 |
| hiemanshu | yay, 'Device not working properly' :D | 09:07 |
| hiemanshu | FML | 09:08 |
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| hiemanshu | Battery Level is 40%, wonder what went wrong, flashing to 34-2 now | 09:10 |
| Scifig | I can't set a password for "user". I can't run "su - user" from devel-sh. So how can I run a command as user via ssh? | 09:16 |
| hiemanshu | you cannot IIRC, you can only do it as developer now, and pass from that comes from SDK tool | 09:18 |
| Scifig | There are some dbus commands I would like to run as user. Don't know if developer account is "very" similar to user. | 09:21 |
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| Hq` | ah great, a spotify client is available | 10:31 |
| Hq` | meespot seems to support also offline playlists, nice | 10:31 |
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| Anssi138 | last! | 10:33 |
| Hq` | the ui is a bit sluggish sometimes, but otherwise seems to work great | 10:34 |
| djszapi | did not expect to hear good words for harmattan here ;) | 10:34 |
| Anssi138 | considering spotify, i have found 'new' coding music genre lately | 10:34 |
| petteri | link? | 10:34 |
| Hq` | it's in ovi store | 10:35 |
| petteri | ok, thanks | 10:35 |
| xarcass | coding music genre? what it might be? | 10:35 |
| Anssi138 | it's blues. | 10:35 |
| Anssi138 | maybe i am just getting old | 10:36 |
| Anssi138 | music to listen while coding | 10:36 |
| * xarcass is desperately trying to swallow his puke :) | 10:37 | |
| djszapi | getting yound!! | 10:37 |
| djszapi | young* | 10:37 |
| iekku | if it's blues, can't start coding ever | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | best coding music is crap 90's dance | 10:37 |
| Hq` | ugh | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | there's absolutely nothing there for your brain to process | 10:37 |
| iekku | umh | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | => more processing power for your mind | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:37 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, :DDDDD | 10:37 |
| xarcass | last coding music genre i've found was TXDM, and I'm 42 btw | 10:38 |
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| djszapi | or one can just sing while coding =) | 10:38 |
| Hq` | :D | 10:38 |
| Hq` | that would be... interesting (at work) | 10:38 |
| frals | heh | 10:39 |
| frals | what is more annoying then singing is the guy next to you bouncing like he's on acid | 10:39 |
| * xarcass tries to reproduce guttural growling and pig squealing while coding | 10:39 | |
| frals | my bh-905i solves noise but cant do anythign about what i see in the corner of my eyes :< | 10:40 |
| djszapi | Hq`: not coding in the dark corner alone ? Shame on you ;) | 10:40 |
| Hq` | I will be if I start singing | 10:40 |
| frals | :D | 10:40 |
| xarcass | alas, all dark corners are already occupied by superiors | 10:41 |
| djszapi | at any rate ... anybody experience with osc build locally for Harmattan target ? | 10:42 |
| dm8tbr | Hq`: people will lock you in the phone closet. It's sound proof and has ethernet. ;) | 10:42 |
| Hq` | :) | 10:43 |
| * matrixx lolling here | 10:44 | |
| Anssi138 | Hq`, and i would throw vi manuals at you ;) | 10:44 |
| matrixx | tries to read this conversation with a poker face | 10:44 |
| matrixx | dm8tbr: :D | 10:44 |
| dm8tbr | matrixx: we all know you fail to do so, don't pretend ;) | 10:44 |
| matrixx | dm8tbr: yeah, gone already :( | 10:45 |
| matrixx | I listen reggae or ska when coding | 10:45 |
| matrixx | and try hard not to sing with it | 10:45 |
| djszapi | "singing" black and death metal would be fun :D | 10:46 |
| djszapi | if anybody has an idea how to make the "osc build" properly locally, I will thank: http://paste.kde.org/135871/ | 10:47 |
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| spenap | hi, I've upgraded to 1.1 using the SSU, and now I cannot login as root via ssh. I read the tweets about login as user / developer, but... What if I just want to keep login as root? Can it be restored? | 10:49 |
| dm8tbr | spenap: login as user and devel-su? | 10:50 |
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| dm8tbr | logging in as root leaves you in an bad position anyway as root can't e.g. read user files and does not have the same credentials as when running from devel-su. AFAIU YMMV | 10:51 |
| spenap | dm8tbr, yes, that's a valid workaround. But I checked the sshd_config, and it still says PermitRootLogin yes | 10:51 |
| hiemanshu | wait what, still no Jabber? :( | 10:51 |
| spenap | basically, I just login as root to install .deb files, and then su - user | 10:52 |
| dm8tbr | hiemanshu: I don't think there will be unless someone finally goes and writes an account plugin... | 10:52 |
| spenap | so previously, scp stuff root@device:; ssh root@device was really handy | 10:52 |
| hiemanshu | dm8tbr: ah, damn, gotta pester someone now | 10:52 |
| dm8tbr | hiemanshu: most of the SSO code is open sores anyway | 10:53 |
| hiemanshu | yeah, have seen it, will meddle with it when I can | 10:54 |
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| hiemanshu | also anyone that updated to 39-5, dont forget to apt-get install gof2 nfsshift | 11:02 |
| jabis | someone mentioned a spotify client - which repo is it in? | 11:04 |
| hiemanshu | ovi store | 11:04 |
| jabis | didn't see it there yesterday o.O well have to dig deeper I suppose ^^ | 11:05 |
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| hiemanshu | jabis: its called meespot or something | 11:05 |
| jabis | thanks :) anyone here managed a pptp vpn setup? I saw some discussion about hacking a bluetooth-dun or something but haven't figured out how to apply this | 11:06 |
| RST38h | So, any solution to firmware update hanging and then stopping at 0%? | 11:10 |
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| meegomy | hi guys | 11:12 |
| SpeedEvil | hi | 11:12 |
| rantom | hiemanshu: I think you mean Qspot? | 11:13 |
| hiemanshu | rantom: someone said meespot above | 11:13 |
| rantom | Hmm | 11:13 |
| jabis | meespot it was - only works with premium, and I've forgot our firm's password X) | 11:14 |
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| rantom | Spotify always works only with Premium outside of desktop | 11:14 |
| rantom | s/desktop/desktop-client/ | 11:14 |
| infobot | rantom meant: Spotify always works only with Premium outside of desktop-client | 11:14 |
| jabis | oh - didn't know that :) | 11:15 |
| meegomy | what is the ssh root@localhost password for n950? | 11:15 |
| hiemanshu | rootme | 11:15 |
| sandst1_ | meegomy: rootme | 11:15 |
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| meegomy | thats weired | 11:17 |
| rantom | jabis: http://www.spotify.com/fi/get-spotify/premium/ (ignore the "fi", they've yet to translate the site from English to Finnish) | 11:17 |
| meegomy | "Permission denied, please try again." | 11:17 |
| rantom | Wasn't the ssh to root removed in newest OTA? | 11:17 |
| hiemanshu | yes | 11:18 |
| rantom | meegomy: You could also try as a command: devel-su | 11:18 |
| rantom | Same password | 11:18 |
| meegomy | ok.. | 11:18 |
| meegomy | i got the ota update this morning | 11:18 |
| hiemanshu | meegomy: then you have to ssh as developer and run devel-su to get root | 11:19 |
| meegomy | is that anyway to make the menu as landscape mode? | 11:20 |
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| hiemanshu | so best thing to do would be copy over the ssh keys and use those to do anything you need to do as user and devel-su for root | 11:20 |
| xsacha_ | ok, so n950 has pr 1.1... when does n9 get it? | 11:20 |
| meegomy | coz i was refering to this: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=3756&page=2 | 11:20 |
| xsacha_ | only update for n9 i can see is something for developer | 11:21 |
| xsacha_ | if i update that do restrictions get better or worse? | 11:21 |
| lkslawek | meegomy: the menu? applications list in home screen? | 11:22 |
| hiemanshu | there is no difference except that you get a terminal and a sdk connectivity app | 11:22 |
| meegomy | lkslawek: yes | 11:22 |
| lkslawek | meegomy: it is | 11:22 |
| lkslawek | meegomy: the orientation is locked in .css file for meego touch home | 11:22 |
| meegomy | how i can edit the file? | 11:23 |
| lkslawek | with you favourite editor on your phone | 11:23 |
| lkslawek | e.g. vi | 11:23 |
| rantom | meegomy: http://wiki.meego.com/Migrating_from_N900_to_N950#Harmattan_home_screens_in_landscape_mode | 11:24 |
| meegomy | yea.. i was trying this approach | 11:25 |
| rantom | If I recall correctly though it was not recommended since it had stability(?) issues? | 11:25 |
| lkslawek | did not crash for me, only some drawing problems | 11:26 |
| Jaffa | Morning, all | 11:26 |
| rantom | Jaffa: morning | 11:26 |
| rantom | Btw | 11:27 |
| rantom | Would someone know where the .ts files for Harmattan are? | 11:27 |
| rantom | (localization) | 11:27 |
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| sandst1_ | hmm..interesting. 'apt-get dist-upgrade' on n9 shows 603 packages to update :) | 11:31 |
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| rantom | sandst1: indeed... | 11:32 |
| rantom | swype? :) | 11:32 |
| xsacha_ | sandst1: dist upgrade? thx | 11:32 |
| xsacha_ | last time i tried that it had 1 update | 11:32 |
| sandst1 | rantom: no swype on the list | 11:33 |
| rantom | Darn | 11:33 |
| xsacha_ | doesnt mean it's not in repo | 11:33 |
| xsacha_ | by the way, what is the repo it dist-ugrade's to? | 11:33 |
| xsacha_ | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/ beta 2 still newest here | 11:34 |
| sandst1 | xsacha_: it's getting stuff from downloads.maemo.nokia.com | 11:34 |
| xsacha_ | k | 11:34 |
| xsacha_ | gosh feels like such a chore to type on my n9.. even though it's fast | 11:35 |
| meegomy | i think i saw swipe in the setting | 11:35 |
| xsacha_ | i usually just ssh in | 11:35 |
| xsacha_ | ok, you must have some special n9 | 11:35 |
| rantom | meegomy: Swipe is for the UI, Swype is the input-method | 11:35 |
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| xsacha_ | i get 10 upgraded, 1 to remove | 11:36 |
| rantom | Just a clarification | 11:36 |
| xsacha_ | 7 of them are just the standard ones | 11:36 |
| meegomy | rantom: opes my bad | 11:36 |
| hiemanshu | hmm, installed gof2 and nfs shift | 11:36 |
| meegomy | ops* | 11:36 |
| rantom | meegomy: It's ok :) | 11:36 |
| Kaadlajk | dist-upgrade might mess up your SSU if it removes mp-harmattan-... package | 11:36 |
| xsacha_ | yeah it offers to remove the mp-harmattan-299-pr | 11:36 |
| meegomy | hiemanshu: where u get these games? | 11:37 |
| Hq` | I hate every input method which tries to guess what I meant :P | 11:37 |
| hiemanshu | meegomy: apt-get install gof2 nfsshift | 11:37 |
| hiemanshu | meegomy: they are free with 39-5 | 11:37 |
| Hq` | unless it can read thoughts its not good enough :P | 11:37 |
| xsacha_ | sandst1: am i doing something wrong? i dont have the dist-upgrade | 11:37 |
| sandst1 | Kaarlajk: well. there's always the option to flash againn :) | 11:37 |
| xsacha_ | just 3 new packages and it wants to remove mp-harmattan, like it wanted when i first got phone | 11:38 |
| hiemanshu | xsacha_: first update, and then try dist-upgrade | 11:38 |
| sandst1 | xsacha_: ran apt-get update first? (and as Kaadlajk said, it might mess your SSU :) | 11:38 |
| hiemanshu | it probably doesn't have newer data | 11:38 |
| xsacha_ | sandst1: yeah i did | 11:39 |
| sandst1 | xsacha_: strange... | 11:39 |
| meegomy | i jz got this device 2 days ago | 11:39 |
| xsacha_ | is there a non-standard repo you had to add? | 11:39 |
| meegomy | not very familiar | 11:39 |
| hiemanshu | meegomy: the N950? | 11:39 |
| meegomy | yeah | 11:39 |
| xsacha_ | meegomy: have you used any debian-based linux before? | 11:40 |
| sandst1 | xsacha_: nope. | 11:40 |
| hiemanshu | how did you get it 2 days ago? | 11:40 |
| meegomy | late for the class tho | 11:40 |
| meegomy | xsacha_: not really | 11:40 |
| hiemanshu | meegomy: open terminal, devel-su, enter password, and then apt-get install gof2 nfsshift | 11:40 |
| meegomy | have to start from scratch | 11:40 |
| meegomy | hiemanshu: thx its running now | 11:42 |
| hiemanshu | it should download around 220M | 11:42 |
| meegomy | 15min to go | 11:43 |
| xsacha_ | sandst1: well my update says https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/harmattan/299/ ./Packages.gz The requested URL returned error: 404 | 11:43 |
| sandst1 | xsacha_: that's strange.. | 11:44 |
| meegomy | so the aegis can be disable now? | 11:44 |
| xsacha_ | sandst1: the harmattan/sdk/free harmattan/sdk/non-free all download correctly | 11:45 |
| sandst1 | Kaadlajk: not so sure how Seamless the current upgrade thing is though. Got some update notifications about Facebook/Twitter/Drive etc, but they all failed to download due to some conflict w.r.t some installed packages x) which is a bit strange since all i've got installed is a couple apps from ovi store | 11:45 |
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| hiemanshu | sandst1: those update with the new image, so they will fail, and will auto install when the new one updates | 11:47 |
| hiemanshu | s/new one/image/ | 11:47 |
| infobot | hiemanshu meant: sandst1: those update with the new image, so they will fail, and will auto install when the image updates | 11:47 |
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| sandst1 | hiemanshu: ok. just a bit confusing to get an app update notification that doesn't work :) | 11:49 |
| hiemanshu | sandst1: yeah, I tried that, and it failed telling me it needs the image update to install, and when I did the install, it all auto updated | 11:49 |
| hiemanshu | am on N950 though | 11:49 |
| sandst1 | hiemanshu: ok, good to know | 11:50 |
| xsacha_ | so just no updates for my n9? :( | 11:50 |
| xsacha_ | didnt know repos can discriminate based on product code or whatever | 11:50 |
| artemma | Is there a way to restrict swype languages to just a few? | 11:51 |
| * artemma is tired to push language switch button ten times, when really using only 2-3 languages | 11:51 | |
| meegomy | n950 not support skype yet? | 11:51 |
| xsacha_ | Nokia FiRE still only has firmware 10.2011.34.1 for N9 | 11:52 |
| artemma | meegomy, I installed skype this way: http://wiki.meego.com/Migrating_from_N900_to_N950#GTalk_and_Skype_account_setup | 11:52 |
| artemma | oh well, enabled actually | 11:52 |
| macmaN | artemma: you can select languages in settings | 11:52 |
| artemma | you can't make calls or send messages right from contacts, but you can call or send messages from Call/Messgaes | 11:53 |
| artemma | macmaN: I can't see how | 11:53 |
| artemma | I know how to choose lang for built-in keyboard | 11:53 |
| artemma | but not for swype | 11:53 |
| xsacha_ | why n950 have less features than n9? | 11:53 |
| meegomy | thx artemma | 11:53 |
| * artemma finds PR 1.1 to be a little (but noticeably) slower than Beta 2 nearly everywhere. Anybody got similar feelings? | 11:55 | |
| rantom | artemma: Similar feeling. Seems to lag a bit | 11:55 |
| xsacha_ | by the way, on n9 (still original firmware), i have 30MB ram free on boot | 11:56 |
| xsacha_ | is that normal? 970MB used | 11:56 |
| artemma | I have very similar situation with N950 and PR 1.1 (not sure if it has 30 or 130MB free rigth after boot, but it's anyway not 200 | 11:57 |
| xsacha_ | yeah 100MB buffer, 30MB free | 11:58 |
| kimju | artemma, IIRC you might need to select the supported languages separately for swype and non-swype. then swiping left/right in vkb changes between all selected modes/languages | 11:58 |
| artemma | kimju: I tried, but failed to find how to do it | 11:58 |
| xsacha_ | the weird thing is.. i ran 12 apps (including 3 games) and RAM usage dropped so that I had 200MB free + 100MB buffer | 11:58 |
| artemma | kimju: swype settings seem to allow to choose the *current* language only | 11:59 |
| Hq` | well my desktop is "using" almost 4GB of memory with just a few apps open... one should not obsess too much over the reported figures | 12:01 |
| meegomy | how you check the free rams & processor speed? its that any apps for that? | 12:03 |
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| xsacha_ | cat /proc/cpuinfo for processor | 12:05 |
| xsacha_ | free for ram | 12:05 |
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| Hq` | or cat /proc/meminfo | 12:07 |
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| meegomy | currently we dun have monitor apps for ram & processor? | 12:07 |
| Hq` | you'll also see that a lot of it is probably "cached" | 12:07 |
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| meegomy | Hq`: i see | 12:08 |
| xarcass | meegomy: you can try mem-cpu-monitor | 12:10 |
| meegomy | xarcass: its that available in store? | 12:10 |
| xsacha_ | meegomy: 'top' is a console monitor | 12:10 |
| xsacha_ | meegomy: you want a GUI app? | 12:11 |
| xarcass | meegomy: it's in 'developer mode' pack, don't know where exactly. it was on the N950, i'm sure. | 12:11 |
| xarcass | meegomy: and it's command-line utility, btw | 12:11 |
| meegomy | i installed everything in the developer mode | 12:12 |
| xarcass | then try to type it in the terminal | 12:12 |
| meegomy | the only gui apps similar i see is energy profile | 12:12 |
| xsacha_ | just type 'top' in to terminal | 12:13 |
| xsacha_ | that's good enough for me :) | 12:13 |
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| meegomy | xsacha_: cool | 12:14 |
| meegomy | but i hoping a monitor similar like conky in n900 | 12:14 |
| meegomy | btw, how to install input languages? | 12:22 |
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| flux | meegomy, checked out settings/language? | 12:31 |
| flux | how do I setup ssh login for user? it appears I cannot set its password and while I have copied ~root/authorized_keys to ~user/authorized_keys (and the new file is user.uers 600), I still cannot log in | 12:31 |
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| hiemanshu | the new update is sloooooow | 12:34 |
| hiemanshu | flux: login as developer, devel-su and su - user | 12:35 |
| jreznik | hiemanshu: how do you mean "slow" - update process or system after update? I feel the whole phone is much more slower with PR1.1 | 12:36 |
| hiemanshu | jreznik: the phone being slower | 12:37 |
| jreznik | hiemanshu: yep, I agree completely | 12:37 |
| flux | hiemanshu, final step: su: can't set groups: Operation not permitted | 12:37 |
| flux | accli -I doesn't say CAP::set_uid | 12:38 |
| hiemanshu | flux: develsh after devel-su? | 12:38 |
| flux | same thing | 12:38 |
| flux | but I do have a lot more capabilities, though | 12:38 |
| flux | but no set_uid | 12:39 |
| hiemanshu | thats odd | 12:39 |
| flux | but hey, iptables works now, that was going to be my other question :) | 12:39 |
| meegomy | flux：finally found the language i want | 12:39 |
| hiemanshu | jreznik: I think the animations are slow which the phone seem slow as well | 12:39 |
| meegomy | after the ota update | 12:39 |
| sandst1 | people. do NOT apt-get dist-upgrade your n9 :D | 12:39 |
| flux | sounds like sandst1 learned something the hard way :) | 12:39 |
| sandst1 | ohyeah xD | 12:40 |
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| jreznik | hiemanshu: not only animations, for example it takes ages before keyboard appears in unlocking dialog etc. | 12:40 |
| hiemanshu | yeah that too | 12:40 |
| hiemanshu | sandst1: you were warned :P | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | jreznik: remember that media is getting reindexed after update | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | jreznik: it can be a bit brutal at times | 12:41 |
| jreznik | Stskeeps: yep, it was brutal, now it's getting better but still not as fast as beta 2 | 12:42 |
| xsacha_ | sandst1: but how come yours can dist-upgrade and mine can't? :( | 12:42 |
| Stskeeps | less media ;) | 12:42 |
| jreznik | and I don't like the new toolbar shadow - breaks look of my apps - would make sense to have also the page header to have shadow | 12:43 |
| hiemanshu | the screen isnt reacting at all | 12:43 |
| sandst1 | xsacha: lucky you :P | 12:43 |
| xsacha_ | sandst1: anyway you can just reflash your n9 | 12:43 |
| hiemanshu | no matter what, its still stuck :/ | 12:43 |
| sandst1 | xsacha_: yep | 12:43 |
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| xsacha_ | sandst1: when you dist-upgrade, isn't there a way to keep the pm-harmattan-299-pr aoo? | 12:44 |
| hiemanshu | I dont think so | 12:45 |
| hiemanshu | its like a meta package telling you at what version you are | 12:45 |
| sandst1 | xsacha_: nope | 12:45 |
| sandst1 | xsacha_: and the fact that there are 603 packages in the repo waiting to be updated tells that it'll come through OTA sometime soon anyway | 12:46 |
| hiemanshu | Stskeeps: aegisfs using 60% CPU | 12:46 |
| hiemanshu | :/ | 12:46 |
| xsacha_ | other phones only update on a carrier-by-carrier process.. will n9 be like this? | 12:46 |
| Stskeeps | hiemanshu: heh | 12:46 |
| sandst1 | oh btw. Is there a flasher for n9 yet? xD | 12:46 |
| xsacha_ | sandst1: Phoenix works | 12:46 |
| hiemanshu | Stskeeps: tracker doing that? | 12:46 |
| sandst1 | a public image i mean | 12:47 |
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| Stskeeps | hiemanshu: indexing media | 12:47 |
| xsacha_ | sandst1: Nokia FiRE has PR 1.0 | 12:47 |
| RST38h | hiemanshu: It is protecting you against evil programs using your CPU | 12:47 |
| xsacha_ | sandst1: you can use NaviFIRM to download it | 12:47 |
| meegomy | hi stskeeps | 12:47 |
| hiemanshu | Stskeeps: oic, I have like 600 songs on there | 12:47 |
| hiemanshu | and SIM hot swapping not working? | 12:47 |
| sandst1 | xsacha_: ok thx | 12:48 |
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| djszapi | Hi! It is not possible then to get the root ssh work after the ssu update from 34-2 ? | 12:53 |
| hiemanshu | djszapi: nope, no root ssh works after ssu | 12:53 |
| djszapi | not even if you change the password behind devel-su ? | 12:54 |
| hiemanshu | nope | 12:55 |
| xsacha_ | develsh and developer-mode update.. what do they do? | 12:57 |
| faenil | djszapi: hey :) | 12:57 |
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| djszapi | faenil: hey there ;) | 12:57 |
| sandst1 | soo what's the password for 'user' in n9...? | 13:00 |
| djszapi | nothing iirc | 13:00 |
| xsacha_ | user/ | 13:00 |
| djszapi | but you can change it later | 13:00 |
| xsacha_ | hey i tried updating develsh and it says "Update failed and application is now unusable" | 13:01 |
| xsacha_ | ah, wha/>! | 13:01 |
| sandst1 | yup, changed | 13:01 |
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| xsacha_ | anyone have this update? 0.2011.21-5 | 13:04 |
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| hiemanshu | 21-5 isnt an update | 13:07 |
| meegomy | anyone try this? http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/10/led-event-notifier-nokia-n950-meego-harmattan/ | 13:07 |
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| xsacha_ | hmm what's with all these devtools | 13:08 |
| djszapi | hiemanshu: ok, so it is false :p http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Harmattan:Platform_Guide/Getting_started_with_Harmattan_Platform_SDK/Setting_up_and_using_USB_connection | 13:08 |
| hiemanshu | djszapi: that was *before* | 13:09 |
| hiemanshu | not anymore | 13:09 |
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| jabis | hrm - can't get rid of tnpclient - why has it got to be a hard-dep :/ | 13:09 |
| hiemanshu | or maybe it doesn't work over wireless | 13:09 |
| djszapi | hiemanshu: well, that is the public documentation now I can see. | 13:10 |
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| flux | via develsh I was able to change user passsword as well, and now ssh works fine (with keys) | 13:15 |
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| jabis | where can I fiddle with package dependencies - I seriously want to remove track and protect but it's deps prohibit me from removing it -.- | 13:15 |
| flux | jabis, you cannot remove mp-harmattan-001-pr? | 13:16 |
| flux | (which appears to be its only dependant) | 13:17 |
| jabis | nup - dpkg and apt-get both error out | 13:17 |
| djszapi | faenil: how are you ? | 13:17 |
| jabis | both in devel-su and in develsh | 13:18 |
| faenil | fine ;) getting ready for devdays :) actually working on a uni project which is driving me mad :D | 13:18 |
| faenil | what bout u? | 13:18 |
| Stskeeps | djszapi: what command do i use to list what credentials a command has? | 13:19 |
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| meegomy | any workaround for flash player for browser? | 13:21 |
| sandst1 | phew. reflashed ^^ | 13:21 |
| xsacha_ | meegomy: yeah | 13:22 |
| djszapi | Stskeeps: accli -I -p `pidof your_command` | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | thanks | 13:22 |
| xsacha_ | vnc viewer -> windows laptop -> chrome + flash 11 | 13:22 |
| djszapi | your_process* | 13:22 |
| djszapi | spenap: "...But I checked the sshd_config, and it still says PermitRootLogin yes..." -> really ? | 13:24 |
| spenap | yes, really | 13:25 |
| hiemanshu | Stskeeps: down to 1% but still slower than Beta2 | 13:27 |
| hiemanshu | it seems to be ignoring sshd_config, maybe hard coded in | 13:28 |
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| meegomy | xsacha_: sorry i dont understand | 13:37 |
| meegomy | u mean i cant install flash in the device itself? | 13:38 |
| xsacha_ | well not a hardware accelerated one | 13:38 |
| xsacha_ | technically there may be a way to get the n900 one in there | 13:38 |
| faenil | is there any info about OCF with 39-5? | 13:38 |
| xsacha_ | flash is proprietary so you cant exactly recompile it | 13:38 |
| meegomy | anyone done the flash migration from n900? | 13:39 |
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| xsacha_ | nokia shares up 11.5% lol | 13:46 |
| Stskeeps | still far to go | 13:46 |
| Stskeeps | 4.91eur, reach 8.48 and we're talking ;) | 13:47 |
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| Summeli | over 5EUR | 13:48 |
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| * artemma is thinking if new PR 1.1 features are worth the slow down or not.. | 13:59 | |
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| faenil | artemma: so should I update or not XD | 14:01 |
| artemma | it depends :) | 14:02 |
| artemma | slow down isn't great, so if you like swype and taking skype with you, you can give it a try | 14:02 |
| djszapi | 'lo wazd o/ | 14:03 |
| artemma | you can always use onclickflasher to go back to beta2 | 14:03 |
| Corsac | is the reason known? | 14:03 |
| artemma | ? | 14:03 |
| Corsac | (for the slowdown) | 14:03 |
| artemma | no | 14:03 |
| djszapi | what slow down btw ? | 14:03 |
| artemma | maybe they just pushed to many fixes | 14:04 |
| faenil | you can go back to beta2? | 14:04 |
| Corsac | no idea, I don't own a device :/ | 14:04 |
| artemma | djszapi: to me everything is slightly slower on pr 1.1 | 14:04 |
| artemma | from messaging to opening Settings | 14:04 |
| Corsac | couldn't get an n950 and wondering about a n9 since 650€ is a bit expensive | 14:04 |
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| djszapi | artemma: weird. | 14:05 |
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| * artemma is going to reboot. Somehow Nokia Multemedia Transfer stopped detecting the device | 14:05 | |
| artemma | I have many apps installed, so maybe it's e.g. MyMoves daemon that causes slow down | 14:05 |
| artemma | but somebody else on this channel also reported decreased speed | 14:06 |
| artemma | ok, to reboot now | 14:06 |
| * xarcass wonders whether there will be vibration level slider in the next fw update for the N9 | 14:07 | |
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| jabis | aegis fucked up my libssl update with no post-script blech... | 14:09 |
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| djszapi | what was the exact error message ? | 14:10 |
| djszapi | faenil: btw, are you a Qt Ambassador ? There will be some embassy meetup at the qt dd.. | 14:11 |
| jabis | http://pastebin.com/cc1kDhmk | 14:11 |
| djszapi | and do you seriously say it is aegis ? :) | 14:12 |
| Corsac | sh -x /var/lib/dpkg/info/libssl1.0.0.postinst | 14:13 |
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| jabis | djszapi well the first warns came up with aegis-NOT-installing prior to those errors | 14:14 |
| jabis | (putty log wouldn't scroll up to that point), just got them last lines | 14:15 |
| djszapi | jabis: well, it sounds like a simple installation issue | 14:15 |
| djszapi | nothing to do with aegis. | 14:15 |
| djszapi | aegis will complain about any installation and stuff like that issue even for general debian installation issues | 14:16 |
| Corsac | well, the postinst fails, at least. no indication why, that's all | 14:16 |
| djszapi | go and blame dpkg | 14:16 |
| Corsac | so it might be related to aegis but nobody can be sure before you're able to debug that postinst | 14:16 |
| djszapi | I mean dpkg.real | 14:16 |
| Corsac | not dpkg | 14:16 |
| Corsac | no | 14:16 |
| Corsac | /var/lib/dpkg/info/libssl1.0.0.postinst is what is failing | 14:16 |
| djszapi | go and blame dpkg.real | 14:17 |
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| Corsac | either | 14:17 |
| Corsac | dpkg isn't responsible for postinst failures | 14:17 |
| djszapi | yes, of course it is | 14:17 |
| djszapi | just modify the hashbang in a maintainer script and try to use dpkg on that | 14:17 |
| djszapi | on *any* dpkg powered systems. | 14:17 |
| Corsac | dpkg just runs the script, if they fail it can't do anything more than report back | 14:18 |
| djszapi | so how could aegis report if dpkg cannot do that itself ? | 14:18 |
| Corsac | I'm not saying it's aegis related | 14:18 |
| Corsac | the only thing we know from the paste is that the script failed | 14:19 |
| djszapi | first sentence: "aegis fucked up ..." :) | 14:19 |
| Corsac | so what jabis needs to do is to debug the script | 14:19 |
| Corsac | (using the command line) | 14:19 |
| djszapi | not from you tho. | 14:19 |
| Corsac | yeah but it's not mine | 14:19 |
| Corsac | I'm just giving info on how to progress | 14:19 |
| Corsac | I can't say it's aegis, but I'm not able to say it's not aegis either :) | 14:19 |
| djszapi | I can say for sure. | 14:20 |
| Corsac | if libssl postinst wants to mess with stuff aegis-protected I guess it could be aegis-related :) | 14:20 |
| djszapi | which would be complained ... | 14:20 |
| Corsac | you're more knowledgeable than me on this, I trust you :) | 14:20 |
| djszapi | well, jabis can check out the syslog :) | 14:20 |
| djszapi | he can go through the postinstall script | 14:20 |
| djszapi | I found similar issue for instnace when somehow the hashbang was wrong. | 14:21 |
| djszapi | instance* | 14:21 |
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| djszapi | Corsac: do you have experience with c-obs ? There is a compiler crash :P | 14:26 |
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| jabis | the package was borken it seems - I downloaded it locally and no errors & got it up and running - coolness | 14:28 |
| djszapi | aegis changed ? :) | 14:28 |
| jabis | this time aegis-installing instead of aegis-NOT-installing ^^ | 14:28 |
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| Corsac | djszapi: c-obs? | 14:32 |
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| Corsac | community-OBS? | 14:32 |
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| djszapi | Corsac: yup. | 14:33 |
| Corsac | never really investigated how it works | 14:34 |
| Corsac | but a compiler crash isn't directly related to OBS, is it? | 14:34 |
| Corsac | I mean, does it only happen in OBS? | 14:34 |
| djszapi | yeah | 14:35 |
| Corsac | with same environment (same installed packages etc.)? | 14:36 |
| djszapi | sb works, local "osc build" fails before trying to build, remote c-obs fails by crashing compiler (gcc) | 14:37 |
| Corsac | do you have log? | 14:39 |
| pinheiro | guys trying to use the sdk to port a few apps | 14:43 |
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| djszapi | Corsac: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=soprano&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard | 14:43 |
| pinheiro | but for exmaple the defoult example looks very wrong after yesterdays update | 14:43 |
| pinheiro | aka the hello world example apears inside a window | 14:44 |
| Corsac | build logs ending on kernel panic, nice | 14:44 |
| pinheiro | with a shadow | 14:44 |
| Corsac | djszapi: fun with C++, too | 14:45 |
| djszapi | Corsac: local "osc build" http://paste.kde.org/135607/ | 14:45 |
| djszapi | Corsac: no worry about kernel panic, c-obs always goes to that :p | 14:45 |
| djszapi | the point is the compiler crash during/afterthe moc generation. | 14:45 |
| Corsac | yeah | 14:46 |
| Corsac | fun with c++ | 14:46 |
| Corsac | afraid I can't really help you on this | 14:46 |
| Corsac | for local build it seems you have issues with perl dependencies | 14:47 |
| Corsac | reordering...Data::Dumper object version 2.130_02 does not match $Data::Dumper::VERSION 2.128 at /usr/lib/perl5/core_perl/DynaLoader.pm line 213. | 14:47 |
| M4rtinK | Corsac: I have one crashing Queumu :) https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=libgtk&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard | 14:47 |
| pinheiro | Qt Creator 2.3.0 not recent enough? | 14:47 |
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| M4rtinK | and it also builds fine in some projects and fails horribly in similar others :) | 14:48 |
| Corsac | for the same package? | 14:48 |
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| M4rtinK | yep, see https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=libgtk&project=home%3AMartinK%3Agtk&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard | 14:50 |
| djszapi | M4rtinK: that is not a "real" crash. Actually your package creation went fine. https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=libgtk&project=home%3AMartinK%3Agtk | 14:51 |
| djszapi | you can see the generated debS below.. | 14:51 |
| M4rtinK | yeah, I know - it works in my project (home:MartinK:gtk) but fails in yours (home:rzr:harmattan) | 14:53 |
| M4rtinK | see the first link | 14:53 |
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| djszapi | unfortunately, my package works nowhere apart from sb. | 14:55 |
| M4rtinK | have you tried disabling the OBS parallel build ? | 14:56 |
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| M4rtinK | that fixed a few packages building in sb but not on OBS for me | 14:58 |
| djszapi | what is the exact entry in the rules ? I do not know by heart :p | 14:58 |
| djszapi | but yeah, sb works here, c-obs is the culsprit. | 14:59 |
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| M4rtinK | djszapi: .NOTPARALLEL: | 15:03 |
| M4rtinK | and I have been adding it on the end of the rules file, btw :) | 15:04 |
| djszapi | cannot these segfaults be manipulated somehow by obs settings ? | 15:05 |
| M4rtinK | I have a theory you might want to try out :) | 15:07 |
| djszapi | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=kdebase-runtime&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard -> another segfault, mmm | 15:08 |
| M4rtinK | that older project are somehow different from the new ones | 15:08 |
| djszapi | there are many segfaults on c-obs recently. I have never really had so many. | 15:08 |
| svuorela | try export C_OBS_NO_SEGFAULTS=1 | 15:08 |
| djszapi | =) | 15:09 |
| M4rtinK | maybe try in a new & clean project first and then in the old one ? | 15:09 |
| M4rtinK | just an idea :) | 15:09 |
| djszapi | I tried in my repo (not rzr) | 15:10 |
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| M4rtinK | so that concludes my theory in this case :) | 15:11 |
| djszapi | have you ever made local "osc build" ? | 15:12 |
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| M4rtinK | yep | 15:14 |
| djszapi | M4rtinK: well, could you please try to import soprano and its dependencies into your tree pls ? Your repo might have some magic :) | 15:15 |
| M4rtinK | ok :D | 15:15 |
| M4rtinK | which source project ? | 15:15 |
| djszapi | for instance mine, but it is also good if you try to either build it locally or if you have idea what is wrong about my local "osc build". | 15:16 |
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| M4rtinK | looks like something's wrong with the COBS interface... | 15:24 |
| faenil | m4rtinK: it's unreachable | 15:27 |
| M4rtinK | nice :) | 15:27 |
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| M4rtinK | oh, seems to be working again | 15:28 |
| djszapi | what where when ? :) | 15:29 |
| M4rtinK | COBS api :) | 15:29 |
| djszapi | do you mean I should re-try the "osc build" or .. ? | 15:30 |
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| M4rtinK | nope, I meant there was just a COBS outage | 15:32 |
| M4rtinK | I have imported the package | 15:32 |
| rcg | uhm did anyone notice quite significant battery drain since the last update? | 15:32 |
| rcg | on n950 that is | 15:33 |
| rcg | top shows /usr/bin/messageserver running constantly with ~60% and /sbin/syslogd with ~40% | 15:33 |
| rcg | is this a known issue? | 15:33 |
| M4rtinK | and I'm now working on importing its many dependencies :) | 15:33 |
| M4rtinK | btw, any way of importing a package with its dependencies or at least more packages at once ? | 15:34 |
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| jkt | so it seems I got hit by http://bit.ly/rffn73. One-click-flasher restored the brick, but I made a spectacular failure by not saving the backup to an off-phone media (duh). | 15:35 |
| jkt | right now, I'm downloading the OTA image once again. Actually, it's installing now. | 15:36 |
| jkt | anyway, I have an old backup from late August. When I tried to restore it, the calendar worked, but I did not get my contacts back -- is that expected? | 15:36 |
| rcg | apparently messageserver is gone berserk and keeps spamming syslog with: "[Warning] QAbstractSocket::waitForBytesWritten() is not allowed in UnconnectedState" | 15:36 |
| djszapi | M4rtinK: I think you better checkout the repo there, and try to build locally. | 15:36 |
| jkt | I know, it's a developer device which comes with no warranty. It's also clearly my fault for not creating a proper backup. Still, I'm rather disappointed now :( | 15:39 |
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| M4rtinK | djszapi: well, I'd rather try to build it in the context off all the other packages in my various repositories first :) | 15:40 |
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| M4rtinK | djszapi: btw, which package from your project provides librdf0-dev ? | 15:46 |
| djszapi | libraptor ? | 15:47 |
| djszapi | or redland ? dunno by heart, sorry. | 15:47 |
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| djszapi | http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/r/redland/redland_1.0.13-3.dsc -> there you go, redland | 15:48 |
| M4rtinK | ok :) | 15:48 |
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| M4rtinK | djszapi: well, this is getting crazier and crazier :) libiodbc2 fails to compile in all my projects (home:MartinK:gtk/harmattan/testing) | 15:59 |
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| M4rtinK | always: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault | 16:00 |
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| djszapi | okay, so probably regressions in c-obs ... | 16:01 |
| M4rtinK | looks like it | 16:02 |
| M4rtinK | or incorrectly declared dependencies | 16:03 |
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| faenil | I'm hating N950 antenna... | 16:13 |
| faenil | It always loses signal, I'm never reachable, people start hating me! | 16:13 |
| Stskeeps | did you upgrade to beta2 + ssu? | 16:13 |
| faenil | I have beta2 atm...just flashed this morning after trying CE yesterday (where I could not receive smses, calls, and stuff :D) | 16:14 |
| hiemanshu | thats odd, I speak for hours at a stretch on the phone without an issue | 16:14 |
| faenil | hiemanshu: I'm starting to think it's just a matter of network status refresh timing issue... | 16:14 |
| aenbacka | hello everyone; anyone know that could be the problem when receiving error "debian/rules clean" fails in the Harmattan COBS? The build succeeds in Harmattan SDK (scratchbox). | 16:14 |
| faenil | if I wait for some minutes, it goes from 0 to like 5! | 16:15 |
| faenil | (signal bars) | 16:15 |
| faenil | but I can't wait 5 minutes to see if there's signal in that zone... | 16:15 |
| faenil | I'll make a comparison video with my N8 and my gf's C5-03 | 16:15 |
| faenil | it's unbelievable... | 16:15 |
| djszapi | M4rtinK: does the "osc build" work for you in general ? | 16:16 |
| faenil | anyway, Stskeeps, does 39-5 address antenna's issues? | 16:16 |
| hiemanshu | faenil: a little slow in refreshing I can agree yes | 16:16 |
| M4rtinK | yep | 16:16 |
| djszapi | M4rtinK: have you seen my error about that, and do you have an idea what can go wrong ? | 16:16 |
| M4rtinK | I even get the same libgtk error with it | 16:16 |
| faenil | hiemanshu: I'm really having a hard time...I always have to keep it in the same spot on the desk, otherwise I know I won't be reachable... | 16:16 |
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| faenil | what I have noticed is, it refreshes fast when there is signal.. | 16:17 |
| hiemanshu | faenil: works with other phones? | 16:17 |
| faenil | but once it goes to "no network", it takes ages to come back to life, even if there's signal | 16:17 |
| faenil | hiemanshu: yes | 16:17 |
| djszapi | faenil: maybe aegis ? :p | 16:17 |
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| faenil | djszapi: lol :P | 16:17 |
| M4rtinK | I would say it is probably an C-OBS issue | 16:17 |
| faenil | xD | 16:18 |
| hiemanshu | djszapi: ofc, if nothing works, blame aegis | 16:18 |
| faenil | djszapi knows it well :P | 16:18 |
| hiemanshu | faenil: thats odd, I got perfect network everywhere, except I missed calls before the pocket made the phone silent | 16:18 |
| faenil | argh :( | 16:19 |
| faenil | I'll make a comparison video :P | 16:19 |
| M4rtinK | djszapi: for example, yayjl finished building in on project, triggering raptor2 rebuild, that now fails :) | 16:19 |
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| djszapi | M4rtinK: I see. What bugs me is that, I cannot even build any packages locally by using "osc build". | 16:20 |
| djszapi | what distribution do you use ? | 16:20 |
| faenil | first try | 16:20 |
| faenil | unreachable, just put on desk | 16:20 |
| djszapi | faenil: as a workaround, try to relocate :) | 16:20 |
| hiemanshu | faenil: update and see if that fixes anything | 16:20 |
| faenil | let's see how long it takes to get signal again | 16:21 |
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| M4rtinK | im off, will look at it again when I get back :) bye | 16:21 |
| faenil | hiemanshu: I will, when I get home | 16:21 |
| faenil | signal back...about 1 minute and a half | 16:21 |
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| hiemanshu | faenil: and also keep spare phones :P the sim in my N950 only has a data plan, and no one has that number, so its never an issue really | 16:22 |
| faenil | :P | 16:22 |
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| hiemanshu | I carry around 3 phones, not including the N950 in my bag | 16:23 |
| faenil | good for you :P | 16:23 |
| faenil | I have N8, but it's not quite the same UX as the N950 :D | 16:24 |
| matrixx | at the beta1 software time I had to carry both N950 and N8 | 16:24 |
| matrixx | to ensure that I have at least one phone which works for calling :D | 16:24 |
| faenil | matrixx: lol :D so you agree :D | 16:24 |
| djszapi | so that is why Nokia gave out n8s to Qt Ambassadors recently ... :) | 16:25 |
| matrixx | I don't have had problems with signal, but with call-ui | 16:25 |
| faenil | oh, ok | 16:25 |
| matrixx | sometimes it didn't come up and I couldn't answer the phone | 16:25 |
| faenil | djszapi: I had to pay for my N8 :D actually, people who visited my website did :D | 16:25 |
| matrixx | and sometime green/red buttons disappeared during a call and I couldn't hang up :D | 16:26 |
| djszapi | faenil: was just wondering why Nokia gave out recently N8 gadgets to Ambassadors.. | 16:26 |
| faenil | :) | 16:26 |
| faenil | djszapi: yeah ;) | 16:26 |
| matrixx | but sure I haven't have any of these problems with even beta2 | 16:26 |
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| faenil | djszapi: are you leaving today? | 16:28 |
| djszapi | at 04:00 am tomorrow :p | 16:29 |
| hiemanshu | djszapi: probably because they had extras lying around :P | 16:30 |
| djszapi | frankly, I would be happier with 2 Ambassador T-Shirts than one shirt and one N8 :p | 16:30 |
| hiemanshu | and swype is so awesome on this phone, and with the proper width, its easy to use as well | 16:30 |
| faenil | hiemanshu: yeah I'm looking forward to updating...I have been for swype for ages :D | 16:31 |
| faenil | been waiting* | 16:31 |
| djszapi | faenil: btw...you can join the Gluon team on Sunday if you wanna. We will be at the Munich Nokia office. | 16:31 |
| faenil | djszapi: that's great! :) | 16:32 |
| hiemanshu | faenil: yeah, swype is much faster when you want to use only one fingure | 16:33 |
| hiemanshu | finger* | 16:33 |
| faenil | hiemanshu: it's definitely faster than physical kb too imho | 16:33 |
| * jreznik has also Nokia C0 too but it has not very usable ui | 16:33 | |
| hiemanshu | faenil: I use the phy keyboard when i want to talk and type together | 16:34 |
| faenil | only me at notebook is faster than me at swype :D | 16:34 |
| faenil | yeah | 16:34 |
| hiemanshu | I am learning to swype without looking to, and later fixing mistakes | 16:35 |
| * faenil hopes to be able to code using his N950 one day :) with external monitor and kb | 16:35 | |
| faenil | hiemanshu: that's difficult :) | 16:36 |
| djszapi | faenil: btw, what do you use in your game(s) for audio ? | 16:36 |
| xsacha_ | faenil: that's what tablets are for ;) | 16:36 |
| hiemanshu | faenil: not impossible :P | 16:36 |
| faenil | djszapi: haven't done anything on the game since beginning of september...Busy on another uni project (one of the two exams missing).... | 16:36 |
| xsacha_ | i plan to make my playbook a coding machine. it has 1080p output with micro hdmi. and it works with bluetooth keyboard | 16:36 |
| faenil | djszapi: anyway, I used SoundEffect and Audio from Qml, and both sucked :D | 16:37 |
| faenil | SoundEffect did not play, Audio could not be repeated :D | 16:37 |
| faenil | xsacha_: but that requires a tablet, which is way bigger than a phone :) | 16:37 |
| xsacha_ | well at least get a phone with hdmi out | 16:38 |
| faenil | xsacha_: I know, I know :P | 16:38 |
| xsacha_ | this tv out (via headphone jack) is just weak.. reminds me of a 5800 | 16:38 |
| faenil | xsacha_: which is not that bad :) | 16:38 |
| djszapi | faenil: I started writing a QtOpenAL module for 3d audio. | 16:38 |
| xsacha_ | in fact, i still have the 5800 cable so i can use tv out with this n9 | 16:38 |
| hiemanshu | xsacha_: get an Asus transformer, install Meego on it, ????, PROFIT :D | 16:38 |
| faenil | djszapi: wow :) | 16:38 |
| xsacha_ | hiemanshu: i already have an asus transformer :) why meego on it? | 16:38 |
| hiemanshu | xsacha_: damn you rich people, and meego because its awesome | 16:39 |
| faenil | hiemanshu: exactly xD student life is hard xD | 16:39 |
| hiemanshu | probably Mer + Plasma Active | 16:39 |
| xsacha_ | doesnt bring me any closer to getting an IDE | 16:39 |
| hiemanshu | faenil: yeah | 16:39 |
| xsacha_ | yeah i'm a poor uni student | 16:39 |
| xsacha_ | with free wares to lure me away from study/research | 16:40 |
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| xsacha_ | is there an IDE on any mobile platform? | 16:41 |
| xsacha_ | how hard would it be to say, port QtCreator (written in Qt)? I don't care about the UI since I'll be using kb+mouse | 16:41 |
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| faenil | just received 3 smses which were sent 2 hours ago....:( | 16:42 |
| hiemanshu | xsacha_: all you need is a compiler and an editor | 16:42 |
| hiemanshu | faenil: haha, time to get another extra phone :P | 16:43 |
| xsacha_ | hiemanshu: all i need.. sure.. gcc and vim.. | 16:43 |
| xsacha_ | but i want a damn good IDE | 16:43 |
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| faenil | hiemanshu: I'll first try updating to 39- | 16:43 |
| faenil | 39-5 | 16:43 |
| faenil | and then will decide | 16:43 |
| xsacha_ | unpaid US students loans >$1 trillion ... wow! | 16:43 |
| xsacha_ | in my country, the government lets you study for free (but takes some money back later if you work in the country and earn enough) | 16:44 |
| hiemanshu | xsacha_: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/armel/qtcreator/download | 16:45 |
| hiemanshu | there you go | 16:45 |
| xsacha_ | cool thanks! | 16:45 |
| hiemanshu | I am pretty sure other distros will have them too, or you can use that as a base, see the patches if any, and compile a later version yourself | 16:46 |
| faenil | here it depends on your family economical status | 16:46 |
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| hiemanshu | I paid like $650 a year, only college fees, stayed at my own place, scholarship | 16:46 |
| faenil | I'm paying 350€ a year... | 16:47 |
| faenil | but I have to pay rent and food :D (money from parents, atm, and some earned with the website) | 16:47 |
| faenil | my own place is 600Km from here, so no way :D | 16:48 |
| hiemanshu | ah, I stayed like a km from my college | 16:49 |
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| hiemanshu | so I could walk to college every day | 16:49 |
| faenil | I see... | 16:50 |
| faenil | isn't college high school? | 16:50 |
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| faenil | or is it same as university? I don't remember the namings :) | 16:50 |
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| xsacha_ | hiemanshu: is it possible to use that version directly? | 16:52 |
| hiemanshu | faenil: same as uni | 16:52 |
| hiemanshu | xsacha_: should be, if you all the deps for it | 16:52 |
| faenil | hiemanshu: ok :) | 16:52 |
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| faenil | now imagine yourself taking out your n950 from the pocket, connecting it to the monitor, and start coding :D | 16:53 |
| hiemanshu | faenil: college is more divided in the sense, they are affliated to a specific uni, and you dont really have to go to the Uni (which might be in a different city or even state) | 16:53 |
| faenil | hiemanshu: o_O | 16:53 |
| xsacha_ | i had to pay $0/year.. government paid me about $10k/yr in undergrad (no scholarship) but i had scholarship too | 16:54 |
| xsacha_ | hiemanshu: apt-get install qtcreator 23 upgraded, 56 newly installed, 470 to be removed... | 16:55 |
| xsacha_ | hiemanshu: "After this operation, 1, 025MB disk space will be freed" | 16:55 |
| hiemanshu | xsacha_: haha, lol, what is it removing? | 16:56 |
| faenil | LOOL | 16:56 |
| xsacha_ | you know all the packages that come with the phone? | 16:56 |
| faenil | removing 1Gb?XD | 16:56 |
| xsacha_ | yeah those | 16:56 |
| hiemanshu | xsacha_: expected :P | 16:56 |
| faenil | you have to sacrifice the phone if you want qtcreator | 16:57 |
| flux | maybe only half of them | 16:57 |
| flux | my device has 1061 packages installed | 16:57 |
| xsacha_ | y/N? Y | 16:57 |
| faenil | is anyone coming to Qt Dev Days?!!? :) | 16:57 |
| hiemanshu | faenil: if you will pay for me to come, sure :) | 16:57 |
| hiemanshu | xsacha_: DO IT! :D | 16:57 |
| faenil | hiemanshu: I'm not paying for myself, lol | 16:58 |
| xsacha_ | yeah what's the worst that could happen? | 16:58 |
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| faenil | hiemanshu: how can I pay for you :D | 16:58 |
| xsacha_ | having to set up 10 email/social networking/messages accounts again? no probs | 16:58 |
| xsacha_ | backup :) | 16:58 |
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| faenil | hiemanshu: sponsors love young people :P | 16:59 |
| hiemanshu | faenil: I know, I cant get any more leaves though | 16:59 |
| faenil | hiemanshu: oh well, if you're working, that's another thing ;) | 16:59 |
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| hiemanshu | faenil: well I barely get any money, so cant afford, I have to give up FUDCon next month just becuase of the leave issues | 17:00 |
| faenil | hiemanshu: no problem ;) | 17:02 |
| djszapi | matrixx: http://fruct.org/sites/default/files/conference10/FRUCT10_Program_v1.pdf | 17:07 |
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| gri | faenil, I don't have a ticked for dev days, but we could meet at some burger king next to it :P | 17:12 |
| faenil | gri: ahahha have you got an N950? | 17:13 |
| gri | of course | 17:13 |
| faenil | gri: so you could try sneaking in...none will ask, lol | 17:13 |
| gri | I don't think they accept this as entry ticket :) | 17:14 |
| faenil | you have to avoid the reception desk of course :P | 17:15 |
| faenil | do you live in Munich? | 17:15 |
| gri | 60 km next to it | 17:15 |
| djszapi | mmm...there is no wi-fi at the airport .. | 17:15 |
| djszapi | free* | 17:15 |
| faenil | if I were you, I'd contact the Developer Outreach Manager for your country, that's how I got my ticket :) | 17:16 |
| faenil | and it's not late | 17:16 |
| Tuju | so, i bricked 950 - any fast way to reflash it in fedora 15? | 17:16 |
| faenil | Tuju: use flasher and flash 34-2 image? | 17:16 |
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| faenil | gri: looking for his email? lol | 17:18 |
| GeneralAntilles | Anybody figured out the trick to OTA updates yet? | 17:18 |
| xsacha_ | forcing ota updates on n9? | 17:19 |
| djszapi | faenil: actually I had two ticket options :p | 17:19 |
| GeneralAntilles | Actually getting the N950 to update | 17:19 |
| GeneralAntilles | Or has there maybe been a flasher released? | 17:19 |
| gri | faenil, problem is I have university at these days :( | 17:19 |
| faenil | djszapi: screw you :P | 17:19 |
| faenil | gri: me too...but who cares?? It's 3 days of lectures vs 3 days of Qt Dev Days!!! | 17:20 |
| faenil | are you kidding? :P | 17:20 |
| RST38h | General: Flash to beta2 then OTA | 17:20 |
| djszapi | + many new business cards :) | 17:20 |
| RST38h | General: [have not tried it, getting beta2 now] | 17:21 |
| djszapi | + fun and everything =) | 17:21 |
| gri | faenil, I have compulsory attendance on wednesday, but I could ask to skip this | 17:22 |
| faenil | gri: I see...well I have given you the hint, now it's your turn, you'll find the way if you care about it ;) | 17:22 |
| djszapi | faenil: sounds like you act as a Qt Ambassador ;) | 17:23 |
| RST38h | ambassawhat? | 17:23 |
| hardaker | GeneralAntilles: I have beta2 (as of a few days ago): I assume you're talking about the OTA you get prompted for after that? | 17:23 |
| GeneralAntilles | PR1.1, yes. | 17:24 |
| hardaker | if so, doesn't work for me either. Always stops with "interrupted, retry?" | 17:24 |
| faenil | djszapi: but I don't have the badge nor free N8s (yet) :D | 17:24 |
| gri | faenil, how to find out the contact person? what language does he/she speak? :) | 17:24 |
| rcg | hardaker: did so for me too.. but it rebooted and it seems to have been updated | 17:24 |
| hardaker | rcg: I did reboot once, so I doubt that's the case for me. | 17:25 |
| rcg | ic | 17:25 |
| faenil | gri: look for it :) Developer Outreach Manager for Nokia Germany | 17:25 |
| gri | faenil, so I should write german or english? | 17:26 |
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| faenil | gri: if he's working in Nokia germany... :P | 17:27 |
| gri | well, there are also nokians in finland who don't speak finnish :) | 17:28 |
| djszapi | I would write English. | 17:28 |
| djszapi | yep, that is why ^ | 17:28 |
| faenil | gri: ok :) | 17:28 |
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| djszapi | faenil: I would highly recommend you the unconference day btw | 17:30 |
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| GeneralAntilles | I wish the damn thing would give me a real error message. | 17:31 |
| faenil | djszapi: sure, I'm letting my nerd and city-museums souls fight ;) | 17:31 |
| GeneralAntilles | There must be some reason why it fails every time. | 17:31 |
| djszapi | faenil: uncoference day is a qt contributor day .. | 17:31 |
| djszapi | in an unconference style.. | 17:31 |
| faenil | djszapi: great :) | 17:32 |
| faenil | djszapi: that's not a problem, I guess that's better than visiting the city xD | 17:32 |
| djszapi | http://community.kde.org/Qt_Contributors_Day | 17:32 |
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| Tuju | faenil: thanks, i look into it later. | 17:33 |
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| faenil | Tuju: ask if you need ;) | 17:33 |
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| djszapi | faenil: I am off soon for a sleep before the traveling, see you in Munich ;) | 17:44 |
| faenil | djszapi: ok, cya ;) send me an email with some contact details please :D | 17:45 |
| djszapi | djszapi@freenode :) | 17:45 |
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| faenil | got an email there too? lol | 17:45 |
| djszapi | I will be there at my company booth during the dd | 17:45 |
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| faenil | anyway, I meant something less internet-depending :P | 17:45 |
| faenil | ok | 17:46 |
| djszapi | and I will be at the Qt Embassy meetup, plus at the unconference style.. | 17:46 |
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| djszapi | plus I can send you tomorrow the room number at the Nokia, Munich office on Sunday too | 17:46 |
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| faenil | ok :P | 17:47 |
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| pinheiro | guys so im doing this qml app and i cant get rid ot the bottom bar | 18:52 |
| pinheiro | of | 18:52 |
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| xsacha_ | view.show(); ? | 18:53 |
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| pinheiro | were? | 18:53 |
| xsacha_ | in the main.cpp | 18:53 |
| pinheiro | in the qml main | 18:53 |
| pinheiro | haaaaaaaaaaaa | 18:53 |
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| xsacha_ | there is more than one show option :P | 18:54 |
| pinheiro | douugh my c++ knonage = -256 | 18:54 |
| pinheiro | qml fine | 18:54 |
| pinheiro | :D | 18:54 |
| xsacha_ | art = genius ;) | 18:55 |
| pinheiro | c++ nooooo | 18:55 |
| pinheiro | so were in the c++? | 18:55 |
| xsacha_ | love your icons | 18:55 |
| djszapi | pinheiro: after the view construction for instance before the event loop | 18:55 |
| pinheiro | D | 18:56 |
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| pinheiro | and in english? | 18:56 |
| pinheiro | :D | 18:56 |
| xsacha_ | is there a line with view.showSomething(); ? | 18:56 |
| xsacha_ | probably before app.exec() | 18:56 |
| merlin1991 | Just pastebin and we can point fingers | 18:56 |
| pinheiro | http://pastebin.com/J7Rk1UjX | 18:57 |
| djszapi | pinheiro: http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Simple_Helloworld_in_Qt | 18:57 |
| pinheiro | me was more hoping for somthing... you can do it all in qml :D | 18:58 |
| pinheiro | thst what i know | 18:58 |
| pinheiro | :D | 18:58 |
| djszapi | pinheiro: where is your main function ? | 18:58 |
| djszapi | where is the event loop (app.exec()) ? | 18:58 |
| pinheiro | like i would know that :D | 18:58 |
| djszapi | pinheiro: what do you need c++ for ? | 18:58 |
| pinheiro | i just want a blank qml canvas | 18:58 |
| pinheiro | :D | 18:59 |
| djszapi | you could test that with qmlviewer for now | 18:59 |
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| pinheiro | naaaaaaa i want to do a working aplication | 18:59 |
| djszapi | yes of course, you can add the C++ at the end | 18:59 |
| pinheiro | was almost working before the update yesterday | 18:59 |
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| pinheiro | now ist wird | 18:59 |
| pinheiro | me takes a screnshoot | 19:00 |
| djszapi | but anyway, all you need is the simple helloworld schema above :) | 19:00 |
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| djszapi | pinheiro: https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/games/gluon/repository/revisions/master/entry/player/touch/main.cpp#L24 | 19:01 |
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| djszapi | use your view instead of the gameWindowManager | 19:02 |
| xsacha_ | pinheiro: that's not your project main.cpp? | 19:02 |
| xsacha_ | yours will look like that link above | 19:02 |
| pinheiro | [16:58] <djszapi> pinheiro: what do you need c++ for ? | 19:03 |
| pinheiro | sory | 19:03 |
| pinheiro | http://pastebin.com/wqWTbNyH | 19:03 |
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| xsacha_ | pinheiro: the showExpanded(); change that to show(); | 19:04 |
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| djszapi | xsacha_: it is his own class, and he handles the show properly, see the first link | 19:05 |
| djszapi | pinheiro: btw, what bottom bar do you mean ? | 19:06 |
| xsacha_ | that coloured bar at the bottom in fullscreen mode | 19:06 |
| pinheiro | also sftp stoped working :( | 19:07 |
| pinheiro | yes | 19:07 |
| djszapi | pinheiro: #if defined(Q_OS_SYMBIAN) || defined(MEEGO_EDITION_HARMATTAN) || defined(Q_WS_SIMULATOR) showFullScreen(); | 19:07 |
| djszapi | that is the reason probably. | 19:07 |
| xsacha_ | yes if you just use show() directly, it works fine | 19:07 |
| djszapi | I am sorry, xsacha_ was right | 19:07 |
| pinheiro | thst defoult made by qt creator code btw | 19:07 |
| xsacha_ | yeah i know, it does that on symbian and meego | 19:07 |
| xsacha_ | annoying :P | 19:08 |
| djszapi | pinheiro: http://pastebin.com/wqWTbNyH 11th line -> viewer.showExpanded(); -> viewer.show(); | 19:08 |
| pinheiro | oki | 19:09 |
| djszapi | #ifdef Q_OS_UNIX | 19:10 |
| djszapi | #ifdef Q_OS_MAC | 19:10 |
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| djszapi | wow ^ :) | 19:10 |
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| faenil | I hate raypicking, lol | 19:12 |
| pinheiro | viewer.showExpanded(); -> viewer.show(); make sno difrence | 19:12 |
| pinheiro | no | 19:12 |
| djszapi | pinheiro: did you rebuild the project ? | 19:13 |
| pinheiro | yes | 19:13 |
| xsacha_ | do you have a ToolBar in your QML? | 19:14 |
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| pinheiro | nope and you guys can try this just start a blank qml app for meego | 19:15 |
| xsacha_ | are you using simulator? | 19:16 |
| xsacha_ | i dont get the bar with blank qml app with view.show() | 19:16 |
| pinheiro | qtcreator | 19:16 |
| pinheiro | deploing on the device | 19:17 |
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| xsacha_ | pinheiro: try viewer.showFullscreen(); ? | 19:18 |
| xsacha_ | although that's what default should be | 19:18 |
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| pinheiro | wird think the app shows perfectly wen its on the tumbnail vertsion | 19:20 |
| xsacha_ | if not working, you must have a StatusBar or ToolBar element in your qml | 19:20 |
| xsacha_ | (that's what that bar is) | 19:20 |
| rantom | Qustion | 19:21 |
| rantom | I noticed in Contacts/Addressbook that you can import contacts from CalDAV | 19:21 |
| pinheiro | me needs to show you guys the screenshot | 19:21 |
| rantom | (N9, retail) | 19:21 |
| rantom | How would one export contacts to CalDAV since I think it's for calendars, CarDAV is for contacts? | 19:22 |
| piggz | help, how can i force oneclickflasher to downgrade by bricked n950....wouldnt turn on after a reboot this morning, installed pr1.1 yesterday!?!?!? | 19:22 |
| pinheiro | http://wstaw.org/m/2011/10/20/2011-10-20_17-00-28.png | 19:22 |
| djszapi | pinheiro: where do you plan to arrive at Munich ? | 19:22 |
| pinheiro | this wen rotating the thing | 19:23 |
| rantom | s/export/import/ | 19:23 |
| pinheiro | djszapi: late realy late | 19:23 |
| pinheiro | like 11:30 | 19:23 |
| djszapi | on Sunday ? | 19:23 |
| pinheiro | staright to bed the rise and shine for 6 hours of traning | 19:23 |
| pinheiro | yes | 19:23 |
| pinheiro | djszapi: see the bug? | 19:24 |
| pinheiro | the top bar is displayed twice | 19:24 |
| xsacha_ | oh it's grey and big | 19:24 |
| xsacha_ | doesn't look like statusbar | 19:24 |
| pinheiro | wird right | 19:24 |
| xsacha_ | and it blocks off the notifications too | 19:25 |
| xsacha_ | i mean, it goes on to your notification bar | 19:25 |
| pinheiro | ok that one is with my example messy code but the same thing is valid with the automatic code from qtcreator | 19:25 |
| pinheiro | the hello world buton exmaple | 19:25 |
| xsacha_ | and the app isnt fullscreen either | 19:25 |
| pinheiro | it bacame worse after esterdays update | 19:26 |
| pinheiro | yesterday | 19:26 |
| xsacha_ | oh maybe related to update then | 19:26 |
| xsacha_ | im still using qt sdk 1.1.3 on pr 1.0 | 19:26 |
| pinheiro | it used to be bad but the only thing you would see was the batery icon | 19:27 |
| pinheiro | bu now its the woole thing | 19:27 |
| xsacha_ | sorry, i have never seen that before :\ | 19:27 |
| pinheiro | snif snif | 19:28 |
| xsacha_ | try continue with your app and pretend it's not there? :) | 19:29 |
| xsacha_ | until you find out what it is | 19:30 |
| xsacha_ | goodnight | 19:30 |
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| djszapi | pinheiro: qtcreator is hassle, you could try vi ;) | 19:30 |
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| faenil | djszapi is a bitch, lol | 19:30 |
| pinheiro | me not gona meacs coment on that | 19:31 |
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| pinheiro | emacs | 19:31 |
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| pinheiro | btw viewer.showFullscreen(); = error has no member nembed showFullscreen | 19:32 |
| pinheiro | named | 19:33 |
| djszapi | Screen | 19:33 |
| pinheiro | :) | 19:33 |
| djszapi | capital S | 19:33 |
| djszapi | http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.8/qwidget.html#showFullScreen | 19:33 |
| pinheiro | haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa | 19:34 |
| pinheiro | it works | 19:34 |
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| pinheiro | dough i dont mind the top bar | 19:35 |
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| djszapi | pinheiro: time to write a multi-threaded application ;) | 19:43 |
| pinheiro | right | 19:44 |
| pinheiro | dough qml in 5.0 will do that for me right ? | 19:44 |
| pinheiro | ;) | 19:44 |
| pinheiro | its all magic | 19:44 |
| pinheiro | more pargamaticly how do i chage the traget build to the device | 19:45 |
| pinheiro | ? | 19:45 |
| pinheiro | never mind found it | 19:45 |
| pinheiro | yepie | 19:47 |
| pinheiro | perfecto works like a charm | 19:47 |
| pinheiro | yay | 19:47 |
| pinheiro | now a but more features and think i can put it on the store | 19:48 |
| pinheiro | its real a nice clock for wone is doing presentations | 19:48 |
| kulve | are there any working open source examples for the meego sharing framework plugins in harmattan? I'm trying to create my own but could use some help with it.. | 19:49 |
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| djszapi | Venemo: o/ | 21:21 |
| Venemo | hey djszapi :) | 21:23 |
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| awallin_ | on an N9, is it possible to have STARTTLS on port 587 as outgoing smtp-settings? I tried a few settings but couldn't send email | 21:56 |
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| Hq` | hey, anyone interested in trying an alternative terminal, check this out http://hqh.unlink.org/harmattan/ | 22:10 |
| Hq` | :) | 22:11 |
| gri | wow, arrow keys ;) | 22:12 |
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| gri | Hq`, any way to scroll up? | 22:16 |
| Hq` | nope, not yet :) | 22:17 |
| Hq` | it saves the buffer but the ui lacks the means to scroll | 22:17 |
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| RST38h | Gentlemen, what is the password to "developer" ssh account??? | 22:41 |
| neal | ask jack ;) | 22:44 |
| NIN101 | not owning a harmattan device, but I read it was "rootme". | 22:45 |
| neal | that's for root | 22:45 |
| Hq` | open "sdk connection" on the device and it will randomize the password for you | 22:45 |
| RST38h | ??? | 22:46 |
| RST38h | Hq: Got it! | 22:52 |
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| ieatlint | as a note, it will remain that password until sdk connection is run again | 22:58 |
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| lardman | evening chaps | 23:02 |
| lardman | more qml questions | 23:02 |
| lardman | does one have to use a Q_PROPERTY construct to retrieve a value from a C++ extension? | 23:02 |
| lardman | I see that e.g. slots can be called directly, or functions with Q_INVOKABLE, do the latter have a void return type? | 23:03 |
| djszapi | a slot is a simple function, it can have anything that a simple function can. | 23:03 |
| djszapi | Q_INVOKABLE does not change it either. | 23:03 |
| lardman | in which case does one need to use Q_PROPERTY to return a value from C++ to QML? | 23:04 |
| lardman | or does that just mean you don't need to add the () in the QML code? ;) | 23:04 |
| djszapi | I do not understand what you mean, can you give an example, please ? | 23:04 |
| lardman | sure, I would like my C++ code to return a number of strings to the QML code: title of page, email address, email subject and email body | 23:05 |
| Hq` | if you want the value to automatically update in qml, then the property is probably a better choice | 23:05 |
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| lardman | my plugin is instantiated as a QML item, and I want to call either methods or read properties to get these strings back | 23:06 |
| lardman | Hq`: auto updating isn't an issue, though I'd be interested to know how that works on the C++ side | 23:06 |
| djszapi | easy, just one setting inside the Q_PROPERTY macro | 23:07 |
| djszapi | NOTIFY somethingHappened | 23:07 |
| djszapi | lardman: isn't it what you look for ? http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/qml-extending.html | 23:08 |
| lardman | not sure, certainly I'm looking at that, but equally one of the examples calls a function directly (with Q_INVOKABLE and also mentions that a slot is callable) | 23:10 |
| lardman | oh I see, how the updates are performed, cool | 23:11 |
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| M4rtinK | djszapi: btw, various packages still randomly segfaulting the (C++) compiler | 23:24 |
| M4rtinK | for example: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=clucene-core&project=home%3AMartinK%3Agtk&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard | 23:24 |
| djszapi | M4rtinK: :( | 23:24 |
| M4rtinK | this one builds fine in your project :) | 23:24 |
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| djszapi | because it build many weeks ago, I think. | 23:25 |
| djszapi | if I tried to rebuild it, it would probably fail the same way as for you. I do think it is regression as I said in the morning. | 23:26 |
| M4rtinK | anyway, this just should not happen - the package should be either unresolvable or fail | 23:27 |
| M4rtinK | not fail depending on unrelated packages and/or randomly... | 23:27 |
| djszapi | yeah, does it also fail for a local build ? | 23:28 |
| M4rtinK | I'll check it out | 23:30 |
| RST38h | To clarify: the last Harmattan update comes without Skype connectivity? | 23:34 |
| gri | swipe, swype but no skype | 23:34 |
| RST38h | hm | 23:34 |
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| djszapi | is there an alarm application for Harmattan ? | 23:56 |
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