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| DRoBeR | I'm reading: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2007-03-29.log.html | 00:04 |
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| DRoBeR | but there's no solution for me, just another people who have the same problem :P | 00:04 |
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| dwmw2_gone | hm, is there _any_ feed on http://www.virginradio.co.uk/listen/ that actually works?# | 00:33 |
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| * ilan tries to upgrade his 770 to OS 2007. | 01:47 | |
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| Deformative | Can the usb host mode be changed without the flasher? | 02:06 |
| Deformative | Isn't there some onboard utility? | 02:06 |
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| pupnik | on 770 or N800? | 02:25 |
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| pupnik | 135384 boost | 02:39 |
| pupnik | 1826220 boost86 | 02:39 |
| pupnik | good grief | 02:39 |
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| Deformative | pupnik: 770 | 02:41 |
| pupnik | i think so | 02:42 |
| Deformative | So... | 02:49 |
| Deformative | No one has ever compiled gcc? | 02:49 |
| Deformative | For armel | 02:49 |
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| skibur | hum | 03:14 |
| skibur | what is the most popular app on the N800? | 03:15 |
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| unique311 | kagu | 03:25 |
| unique311 | skibur, you can check maemo.org, go to the garage, and see what is being downloaded the most. | 03:26 |
| skibur | o cool | 03:27 |
| unique311 | top download, is maemo mapper | 03:27 |
| skibur | didn't know about that | 03:27 |
| skibur | thanks | 03:27 |
| unique311 | most active this week, video center | 03:27 |
| skibur | uClinux for Nintendo DS is looking great | 03:28 |
| skibur | it's call DSLinux | 03:28 |
| skibur | :P | 03:28 |
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| unique311 | not a ds owner.. | 03:30 |
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| Deformative | ... | 04:33 |
| Deformative | Where is everyone? | 04:33 |
| _Monkey | everyone is a critic :) | 04:33 |
| Deformative | How is it even possible that no one has tried onboard gcc? | 04:42 |
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| * pupnik bounces | 05:11 | |
| Deformative | ? | 05:11 |
| pupnik | managed to fix some dependency problems even though the required package wouldn't build | 05:12 |
| Deformative | Oh. | 05:12 |
| Deformative | Try to build gcc. :) | 05:12 |
| [31d1] | isnt gcc in red pill mode? | 05:16 |
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| Deformative | g++ is, but I need to know how to build it. | 05:16 |
| pupnik | some newer apps want a gcc > 3.4 i think | 05:16 |
| pupnik | might be nice to have 4.1 | 05:17 |
| [31d1] | hmm, swear i saw that | 05:17 |
| Deformative | Yeah | 05:17 |
| [31d1] | i just still cant believe no one needed diff | 05:17 |
| [31d1] | wtf | 05:17 |
| Deformative | And if I cannot build gcc, I cannot build gdc | 05:17 |
| pupnik | did you search maemo-devel? | 05:17 |
| Deformative | Huh? | 05:18 |
| pupnik | there is a mailing list | 05:19 |
| Deformative | I will subscribe tomorrow. | 05:19 |
| Deformative | I need to sleep now. | 05:19 |
| pupnik | ok cheers | 05:19 |
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| * pupnik runs the first build of pingus lemmings clone on the n770 :D | 05:39 | |
| [31d1] | ooooooo | 05:42 |
| [31d1] | lemmings | 05:42 |
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| pupnik | starts up ok, sound+music works, but crashes | 05:53 |
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| pupnik | pingus is a free lemmings clone - currently seeking testers http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9794 - /msg pupnik to test | 06:12 |
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| pupnik | crashes fixxorzed :P | 07:07 |
| pupnik | speed tripledzored :P | 07:07 |
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| evadnee | my 770 is not working :( | 07:12 |
| evadnee | it is charging but not booting... | 07:12 |
| evadnee | any suggestions? | 07:12 |
| _Monkey | any suggestions are welcome | 07:12 |
| pupnik | reflash | 07:14 |
| evadnee | how? | 07:14 |
| pupnik | flasher? | 07:14 |
| _Monkey | well, flasher is available from http://tablets-dev.nokia.com | 07:14 |
| evadnee | its connecting to the mmc but not the nokia? | 07:14 |
| pupnik | no | 07:15 |
| evadnee | how do i reflash this thing? | 07:15 |
| evadnee | i don | 07:15 |
| evadnee | i don't want to send it in to be fixed :( | 07:15 |
| milhouse | use the windows update wizard | 07:15 |
| milhouse | might even get a mention in the manual | 07:16 |
| evadnee | yes i did try that | 07:16 |
| milhouse | and? | 07:16 |
| evadnee | no good | 07:16 |
| evadnee | its not connecting to the nokia | 07:16 |
| evadnee | its connecting to the mmc | 07:16 |
| milhouse | no idea, i give up | 07:16 |
| evadnee | c'mon guys think harder!! | 07:17 |
| milhouse | you're not making any sense to be honest | 07:17 |
| evadnee | i went to sleep with it charging and when i woke up it was shut off and then it would not boot | 07:17 |
| evadnee | what do you want me to clear up? | 07:18 |
| evadnee | its not booting, but its charging | 07:18 |
| milhouse | what do you mean "it's connecting to the mmc"? | 07:18 |
| evadnee | the card | 07:18 |
| _Monkey | somebody said the card was faster and can be ext2 or something instead of jffs2 | 07:18 |
| milhouse | see? no sense whatsoever... ;) | 07:18 |
| evadnee | the micro sd card | 07:18 |
| milhouse | you mean it boots from mmc, but doesn't boot from internal flash? | 07:19 |
| evadnee | when i connect the 770 to my pc via usb | 07:19 |
| evadnee | yeah that.. | 07:19 |
| _Monkey | yeah that is probably cool. i will be porting some linux stuff to maemo. hoping to be not much painful as Symbian was | 07:19 |
| milhouse | _monkey forget "yeah that" | 07:20 |
| _Monkey | milhouse, I didn't have anything matching "yeah that" | 07:20 |
| milhouse | so it boots... reflash it | 07:20 |
| evadnee | how? | 07:20 |
| milhouse | Did you get a small booklet with your 770? | 07:21 |
| milhouse | commonly referred to as a "manual"? | 07:21 |
| evadnee | its not booting at all though, its stuck on the charging screen, even if i hold down the home key | 07:21 |
| milhouse | you said it booted from mmc | 07:21 |
| pupnik | no | 07:21 |
| evadnee | no forget that | 07:21 |
| pupnik | "it's connecting to the mmc" | 07:21 |
| evadnee | ^ that | 07:21 |
| milhouse | which means what, exactly? | 07:22 |
| evadnee | the bottom line is that 'its not booting at all' | 07:22 |
| milhouse | you mean your PC is mounting the mcc card as a disk drive even though your device not booting? | 07:22 |
| evadnee | should i send it in to be serviced or can i fix this at home | 07:22 |
| evadnee | yes | 07:22 |
| milhouse | have you tried removing the battery? | 07:22 |
| evadnee | yes | 07:23 |
| milhouse | and removing the mmc card? | 07:23 |
| evadnee | yes | 07:23 |
| milhouse | what happens when you connect the usb cable to your 770 and pc, then power on the 770 while holding the Home key? | 07:23 |
| evadnee | the white nokia screen comes on, and i see the usb icon on the top right but after 3-4 secs it goes back to the charging screen | 07:24 |
| milhouse | what happens if you do the above but without the AC charger connected? | 07:25 |
| evadnee | it doesn't even power on at all | 07:25 |
| milhouse | duff battery?@ | 07:25 |
| evadnee | without the charger it doesn't work at all | 07:25 |
| evadnee | hmm? | 07:25 |
| milhouse | try another battery | 07:25 |
| milhouse | or leave it charging for about 12 hours then try again | 07:26 |
| evadnee | its been charging for awhile now :( | 07:26 |
| evadnee | should i send it in to be serviced? | 07:26 |
| milhouse | then i would try another battery | 07:26 |
| evadnee | i don't understand why it isn't booting though :( | 07:26 |
| lle2 | dead battery | 07:27 |
| milhouse | maybe because there isn't enough charge in the battery... hence why i suggest you try another battery | 07:27 |
| lle2 | sw checks the charge level and refuses to run if there's not enough | 07:27 |
| milhouse | by all means send it in for service, but it could just be a dead or defective battery | 07:27 |
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| evadnee | ic | 07:27 |
| evadnee | i suppose this happened literally over night | 07:27 |
| evadnee | though the 770 currently says that the battery is full | 07:28 |
| milhouse | if you do send it it, you're not supposed to send in the battery, battery cover, stylus or hard-cover so there's a chance they'll find nothing wrong... | 07:28 |
| milhouse | how old is it? | 07:28 |
| evadnee | a couple months old | 07:28 |
| milhouse | can't really suggest much more... do you have another battery to test with? | 07:29 |
| milhouse | or can borrow one? | 07:29 |
| evadnee | i don't have another battery | 07:29 |
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| evadnee | maybe i can run down the mall 2morrow and see if those cellphone stores have a nokia battery lying around? | 07:29 |
| evadnee | what would you suggest? | 07:30 |
| lle2 | that sounds like a good idea | 07:30 |
| milhouse | agreed | 07:30 |
| evadnee | alright, i'll see you guys later :) | 07:31 |
| evadnee | thanks for the help! | 07:31 |
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| fish_ | re | 10:05 |
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| Dave_ | hi | 10:20 |
| Dave_ | can anyone tell men online shop to buy cheap n800 using paypal? | 10:21 |
| Dave_ | me* | 10:21 |
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| pcsaszar | Hi people | 10:25 |
| pcsaszar | I just got this place, that someone from here migthbe able to help | 10:26 |
| pcsaszar | Can you use files.maemo.org at this moment | 10:26 |
| pcsaszar | I am asked for username and password all the time. But on friday, things worked fine. | 10:26 |
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| pcsaszar | Well I am trying to use repository with apt-get update | 10:31 |
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| lardman | morning | 13:32 |
| _Monkey | aloha | 13:32 |
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| Dave_ | can anyone tell me an online shop to buy cheap n800 using paypal? | 13:45 |
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| fish_ | ah crap, the shop were i bought my 770 tries to fix it with a new display instead of exchange it with a n800 :( | 14:22 |
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| cosmo | why would they exchange it to N800? 770 is still being sold | 14:25 |
| `0660 | i wonder if fiat exchanges faulty cars to ferraris :) | 14:29 |
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| Big_B | good morning(~ugt) | 14:34 |
| Big_B | anybody can tell me how to covert JOCTET to gchar for gtk | 14:35 |
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| Big_B | please anybody tell how to covert JOCTET to gchar for gtk | 14:46 |
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| nomis | Big_B: what is JOCTET? | 14:48 |
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| Big_B | JOCTET * buffer; | 14:55 |
| Big_B | nomis: JOCTET * buffer; | 14:55 |
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| sp3000 | how useful | 15:10 |
| sp3000 | there seem to be two places that can give you such creatures | 15:10 |
| sp3000 | what you have and what you want they seem to be the same thing though so a cast should do | 15:11 |
| sp3000 | now the contents are of course another story | 15:11 |
| Mikho | how can I use C-compiled .a -library in a c++ program? The linker complains it can't find the functions that are supposed to be defined in the .a file? | 15:11 |
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| Dave_ | anyone not afk here?.. | 15:13 |
| dwmw2 | maybe | 15:13 |
| Dave_ | can anyone tell me an online shop to buy cheap n800 using paypal? | 15:13 |
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| user__ | hi, anyone know of any resumeble download managers for n800 please? | 15:48 |
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| sbaturzio | Rebroad: wget ? | 15:49 |
| _Monkey | rumour has it wget is an utility for non-interactive download of files from the Web. http://maemo.org/downloads/product/wget/ | 15:49 |
| Rebroad | thanks sbaturzio & _Monkey | 15:50 |
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| Dave_ | can anyone tell me an online shop to buy cheap n800 using paypal? | 15:54 |
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| Rebroad | how do i make wget resume please? it just starts from the beginning each time so far | 16:01 |
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| jani | man wget .. -c is continue/resume switch .. | 16:03 |
| jani | also, some websites do not support that.. specially if there's some download scripts in the site setup.. | 16:03 |
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| alterego | Urgh .. Making debian packages is hard .. | 16:09 |
| alterego | I can honestly say I've got no idea what I'm doing ^_^ | 16:10 |
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| alterego | Okay .. It's a bit easier than I thought. I just realised what all this files are doing ^_^ | 16:13 |
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| fish_ | cosmo: is it really still be sold? i thought nokia doesnt support it anymore? | 16:21 |
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| cosmo | fish_: yes | 16:29 |
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| alterego | Woo! FIRST DEB PACKAGE! | 16:35 |
| alterego | O_O | 16:35 |
| solmumaha | gimme gimme | 16:43 |
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| pupnik_ | http://synthesize.us/HOWTO_make_a_deb_archive | 16:48 |
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| qgil | hi, the scoop is for you: http://maemo.org/development/sdks/maemo_4_0_chinook_beta_sdk.html | 17:26 |
| qgil | we have completed the upload and we are doing the last testing before announcing the release | 17:26 |
| disq | good news! :) | 17:26 |
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| cosmo | hm, gotta try that | 17:34 |
| TPC | 4.0 is coming up? cool | 17:37 |
| * pupnik_ cheers | 17:38 | |
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| koen | # HAL added, with libhal as wrapper. Supported devices: | 17:41 |
| koen | * keyboard (open/closed, exists/doesn’t exist) | 17:41 |
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| pupnik_ | Is there a debhelper >= 5 for gregale maemo yet? | 18:02 |
| pupnik_ | Version: 4.2.32 | 18:03 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 18:14 |
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| pupnik_ | hi | 18:14 |
| _Monkey | bonjour, pupnik_ | 18:14 |
| Jaffa | koen: intriguing | 18:14 |
| koen | Jaffa: indeed | 18:15 |
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| * Jaffa wonders if a built-in keyboard would actually improve his N800, without a proper Jotter app. 'spose it'd make email on the move more of a proposition | 18:21 | |
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| pupnik_ | what's jotter? | 18:24 |
| Jaffa | http://www.ericlindsay.com/epoc/bjot5.htm | 18:26 |
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| pupnik_ | oh psion - i suppose maemopad+ is not a substitute? | 18:28 |
| disq | wonder if it's ok to add other project (related to maemo) trackers in #maemo-commits | 18:28 |
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| * pupnik_ begins to understand why no debhelper 5 is available | 18:32 | |
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| pupnik_ | 524138 Sep 17 16:32 debhelper_5.0.54_all.deb :P :P :P | 18:33 |
| cosmo | hmm. getting connection reset by peers when d/ling maemo 4.0 beta debs | 18:33 |
| Jaffa | pupnik_: Maemopad+ didn't quite have the right workflow for me. Jotter took the first line of the note as a title and was free-format rich text, last time I tried Maemopad+ it required a title to be added before the note | 18:33 |
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| lardman | kulve: You about? | 18:34 |
| pupnik_ | i didn't use the psion 5mx and netbook much, but it was instantly usable | 18:34 |
| lardman | kulve: Just wondering if you had any ideas for debugging tasks that don't want to start up (i.e. open() returns -1)? | 18:34 |
| lardman | pupnik_: and had a keyboard :) | 18:35 |
| * bedboi is back (gone 07:50:43) | 18:38 | |
| |tbb| | has anyone experience running kde on n800 | 18:40 |
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| cosmo | did anyone manage to install 4.0 beta? | 18:49 |
| cosmo | my installation always fails on Err http://repository.maemo.org chinook/free ppp 2.4.4rel-8osso3 Error reading from server - read (104 Connection reset by peer) [IP: 193.184.164.153 80] | 18:49 |
| Jaffa | Using a proxy? | 18:50 |
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| cosmo | not sure, but this is on company network so it's possible | 18:51 |
| Jaffa | Might need to export http_proxy=http://somebox:someport | 18:51 |
| cosmo | it downloads 400 packages successfully before that | 18:51 |
| cosmo | and always fails on ppp package | 18:52 |
| Jaffa | Ah | 18:52 |
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| guardian | is maemo compatible with the latest apophis releases ? can someone sum this up ? | 19:11 |
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| erstazi | guardian: yes | 19:11 |
| erstazi | I would use the latest apophis releases | 19:12 |
| * erstazi uses them as well | 19:12 | |
| guardian | ok | 19:12 |
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| guardian | i never really paid attention to the maemo3-sdk package and why it exists etc | 19:12 |
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| suihkulokki | it should pull in all devkits needed for maemo 3, and add some nice tools | 19:13 |
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| guardian | could you please tell more about the tools ? | 19:14 |
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| suihkulokki | I don't remember what and I'm too lazy to look up | 19:20 |
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| lardman | ~lart dspgateway error messages | 19:40 |
| * infobot crushes dspgateway error messages with a full height scsi disk | 19:40 | |
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| pupnik | heh | 19:44 |
| lardman | I've got everything to compile, just the old error of working out why the dsptask won't load | 19:46 |
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| * pupnik canno help | 19:47 | |
| pupnik | but my debhelper 5 seems to be working! | 19:47 |
| * pupnik is astounded | 19:47 | |
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| pupnik | it is jam-packed with fudge and ignored dependencies | 19:48 |
| pupnik | and dependencies where i edited rules to skip tests :) | 19:48 |
| pupnik | totally nsfw :) | 19:48 |
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| alterego | What's the codename for maemo 2.2? | 20:42 |
| `0660 | gregale? | 20:42 |
| _Monkey | i heard gregale was something else entirely | 20:42 |
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| lle2 | is there anyone who thinks that the monkey is useful? | 20:44 |
| pupnik | hello ssvb, guardian | 20:44 |
| pupnik | yes | 20:44 |
| lle2 | itself? | 20:44 |
| guardian | hi | 20:44 |
| pupnik | saves me typing answering faqs | 20:44 |
| pupnik | it should only trigger with special character though | 20:44 |
| ssvb | hello pupnik | 20:44 |
| pupnik | ssvb, I got pingus running last night :) | 20:45 |
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| pupnik | i'm curious how it runs on n800 - on 770 it requires VM | 20:46 |
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| alterego | mistral :) | 20:47 |
| lle2 | the monkey scores really well on the most annoying net personality of the year awards | 20:47 |
| suihkulokki | _Monkey: change to something | 20:48 |
| _Monkey | suihkulokki: that doesn't look right | 20:48 |
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| * suihkulokki promises not tease monkey again :P | 20:49 | |
| pupnik | i have seen the automated response yield something useful 3-4 times, and be useless 40-80 times | 20:49 |
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| ssvb | pupnik: most likely pingus should be fine on n800, it has the same amount of ram as n770 ram+swap :) unless you have enabled more than 64MB of swap | 20:54 |
| saaib | morning everyone | 20:56 |
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| alterego | Strange .. | 21:07 |
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| alterego | Okay .. | 21:36 |
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| alterego | Should my debs be called '*_ermel' for mistral? | 22:05 |
| pupnik | *_armel | 22:05 |
| alterego | Yes .. | 22:05 |
| alterego | Is that right? | 22:05 |
| alterego | Because the have identical names the mistral and bora debs :/ | 22:06 |
| pupnik | yes all those are armel | 22:06 |
| pupnik | only it2005 was arm | 22:06 |
| alterego | Okay | 22:06 |
| Jaffa | Yeah, that's fine. If they're incompatible with a particular API, depend on a version of hildon-application-framework etc | 22:06 |
| alterego | Oh, so I can run OS2007 apps on an OS2006 device? | 22:07 |
| alterego | Provided the deps are met? | 22:07 |
| alterego | And visa versa? | 22:07 |
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| pupnik | no. vice versa yes | 22:07 |
| alterego | :P | 22:08 |
| alterego | Interesting, I thought there was a binary compatibilty break between IT06 and IT07 | 22:08 |
| alterego | But that was between OS05 and OS06? | 22:09 |
| pupnik | no, yes | 22:09 |
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| alterego | Okay .. | 22:10 |
| * pupnik wishes he ... could be faster at this | 22:11 | |
| disq | no, yes. yes, no. what? | 22:15 |
| pupnik | rearranging gtk menus right now - mostly via guesswork | 22:16 |
| pupnik | buttons rather | 22:16 |
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| pupnik | New UAE: Average frame time: 65.145895 ms ... | 22:18 |
| pupnik | disq - do you want to fix-up UAE? | 22:19 |
| disq | not interested, sorry | 22:21 |
| disq | i don't believe it can run speedball2 at decent speed on maemo | 22:22 |
| pupnik | you got a 770 or 800? | 22:22 |
| disq | n800 | 22:22 |
| disq | erm, both in fact | 22:22 |
| pupnik | ok - in-game lemmings right now 5fps w/o sound on 770 | 22:23 |
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| saaib | pupnik, lemmings is running natively on 770 or requires anything additional? | 22:44 |
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| gla55_ | saaib: guessing from previous lines, uae, amiga emulator | 22:51 |
| pupnik | trying to find fastest config settings right now | 22:51 |
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| suihkulokki | there is a javascript version of lemmings | 22:54 |
| suihkulokki | http://games.funnygames.nl/lemmings/index.html | 22:54 |
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| saaib | aha! just got my 770 replacement back from Nokia... | 23:05 |
| saaib | darn! my battery is on home :S I'll be just steering at the tablet 'till I get home | 23:06 |
| guru3 | steering? staring? | 23:09 |
| bedboi | you can steer it | 23:09 |
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| Knirch | wonder how many picoo-z it would take to lift a 770 | 23:11 |
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| lardman | see you chaps in a few days | 23:26 |
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| [31d1] | convert 1 liter to pints | 23:47 |
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| Mar_vet | ciao | 23:50 |
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| str | Hi all! | 23:52 |
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| pupnik | greets | 23:53 |
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| str | I'm looking for help... My N800 does does not sound | 23:54 |
| str | I can hear FM radio.. but when I play videos o music.. it does not sound... | 23:55 |
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| str | I have been lookging in google an forums for 2 days.. but found nothing | 23:55 |
| lle2 | there's a separate volume control for that | 23:55 |
| lle2 | in the player itself | 23:56 |
| [31d1] | WHY SEPARATE KNOB....WHYYY | 23:56 |
| lle2 | why not? | 23:56 |
| [31d1] | (seinfeld reference) | 23:56 |
| str | lle2: yes.. the volume is in at max, the global, the fmradio and the video player | 23:56 |
| lle2 | it's good to have multiple knobs to tweak | 23:56 |
| lle2 | well... then you have a real problem | 23:57 |
| lle2 | I can't help with those :( | 23:58 |
| str | lle2: it IS very weird.. because I found threads that say that they cannot hear the fmradio, but everything else works.. but mine is opposite | 23:59 |
| alterego | Have you tried a cold boot? | 23:59 |
| str | ok... anyone else? i'm very desesperate | 23:59 |
| str | alterego: yes | 23:59 |
| lle2 | warm hammer might be better | 23:59 |
| str | reboot, reflash... | 23:59 |
| alterego | :) | 23:59 |
| alterego | You reflashed it and it still didn't work? | 23:59 |
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