| mingwandroid | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlF95gj5kxA | 00:06 |
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| max_posedon | hello, whwre I can download latest (trunk/testing) meego 1.3 (1.2.90) builds? | 00:27 |
| max_posedon | I don't found updates on repo.meego.com since mid Aug. | 00:27 |
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| * CosmoHill will take a peak | 00:32 | |
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| CosmoHill | that does seem to be the latest on the public repo | 00:33 |
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| lorenl | hello | 05:21 |
| lorenl | I'm curious, how much Maemo code is really in MeeGo. | 05:22 |
| lorenl | From what I've read, it's almost entirely based on Moblin as Nokia's code was closed source. | 05:22 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | Saw a license plate tonight that said "1BADQT" | 07:53 |
| Alison_Chaiken | That young woman must be a software developer too! | 07:54 |
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| RhymeswA | Maybe she was just naughty'cute' ... just sayin' | 08:54 |
| psycho_oreos | maybe its not her car, its her husband's car who happens to say kinky things ;) | 08:55 |
| RhymeswA | I like my version better ... | 08:57 |
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| Daremonai | hello, i'm trying to port my games from S^3 to MeeGo (Harmattan 1.2), I'm facing a few problems. I finally was able to deploy the app on the MeeGo device; but it didn't seem to be working well. First of all, it goes in Landscape mode even though i have: viewer.setOrientation(QmlApplicationViewer::ScreenOrientationLockPortrait); can someone explain why this is happening? | 09:19 |
| dm8tbr | Daremonai: please join #harmattan | 09:20 |
| Daremonai | dm8tbr: sorry, thanks | 09:20 |
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| lxsameer | where is the meego cross compile toolchain repository ? | 09:22 |
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| tzorvas | http://meegonetwork.org/ w00t | 10:07 |
| tzorvas | joomla installation and its public? :$ | 10:08 |
| Stskeeps | looks broken | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | we're meego.com though | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | Registrant ID:SS602810 | 10:11 |
| Stskeeps | Registrant Name:Sabine Steurer | 10:11 |
| Stskeeps | Registrant Street1:Finkenweg 67 | 10:11 |
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| tids2k | hello | 12:38 |
| tids2k | guys guide me please boot.img= kernel(+ramdisk) zimage= kernel + ? | 12:39 |
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| dm8tbr | tids2k: what do you want to do there? | 12:50 |
| tids2k | im trying to make a boot.img for samsung sgs II | 12:52 |
| tids2k | the samsung uses zimage ( kernel + ramdisk ) | 12:52 |
| dm8tbr | I guess your chances for the kernel are better with the samsung crowd? | 12:55 |
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| Kano | hi, where is the new place for http://git.moblin.org/cgit.cgi/moblin-image-creator/plain/image-writer ? that url is in your netbook instructions on your hp too... | 14:57 |
| dm8tbr | http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-developer-tools/image-creator ? | 15:00 |
| dm8tbr | as also found here: http://wiki.meego.com/Image_Creation#From_Stable_Git_Source_Releases | 15:00 |
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| Kano | the nice image-write tool is not there anymore? | 15:10 |
| Kano | was the tool really removed? | 15:11 |
| Stskeeps | there's one called mic-image-writer i think | 15:11 |
| Stskeeps | or something | 15:12 |
| Kano | is it self containing? | 15:12 |
| Stskeeps | not sure | 15:12 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.meego.com/Image_Creation#Running_mic-image-writer | 15:12 |
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| Kano | looks similar to old one | 15:13 |
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| lxsameer | where can i get the meego arm toolchain | 15:17 |
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| ali1234 | Stskeeps: every package in i486 built, what is next? | 15:25 |
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| Stskeeps | ali1234: good question, i'm surprised it went so smooth | 15:25 |
| Stskeeps | i think you can osc submitreq --cleanup them to Mer:Trunk:Base to include to main sources | 15:26 |
| ali1234 | i didn't add any changelog for these packages | 15:28 |
| Stskeeps | ah, that's probably a start | 15:28 |
| ali1234 | shall i just branch the Base versions and redo the patches? | 15:28 |
| Stskeeps | just branch :i486 one and fix things, then you can osc submitreq --cleanup from Mer:Trunk:Base:i486 to Mer:Trunk:Base | 15:28 |
| Stskeeps | since it's a linked project it'll go fine | 15:28 |
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| ali1234 | what's the command to edit the changes file again? | 15:29 |
| Stskeeps | osc vc | 15:30 |
| Stskeeps | with gcc, remember to sh precheckin.sh when modifying gcc.spec | 15:30 |
| ali1234 | Error: you need meego-packaging-tools for /usr/bin/vc command | 15:31 |
| Stskeeps | ah, that's silly :P | 15:31 |
| Stskeeps | i just make my changes file manually personally | 15:31 |
| ali1234 | ok, i can't commit changes in my working copy because the package is deleted on the OBS server | 15:34 |
| ali1234 | and i can't check it out again because it is already there | 15:35 |
| ali1234 | error: 'home:ali1234:branches:Mer:Trunk:Base:i486/gcc' is already an initialized osc working copy | 15:35 |
| Stskeeps | just mv gcc gcc-old | 15:36 |
| Stskeeps | when you SR it cleans up afterwards, so | 15:36 |
| Stskeeps | you can choose your behaviour when you submitreq | 15:36 |
| ali1234 | but it only cleans the remote copy and leave the local one around to get in the way? | 15:37 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, that does seem a bit inconsistent, but i guess removing data locally is rude | 15:37 |
| ali1234 | and by default, i have to redownload the whole package after every time i submit a change... | 15:38 |
| ali1234 | precheckin.sh doesn't work with /bin/sh... needs bash | 15:40 |
| Stskeeps | ah, good to know | 15:41 |
| ali1234 | and... | 15:41 |
| ali1234 | osc commit doesn't abort if you exit the editor without saving | 15:41 |
| ali1234 | damn i messed up the whitespace too | 15:43 |
| ali1234 | can i just start this over? | 15:43 |
| Stskeeps | sure | 15:44 |
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| ali1234 | ... how? | 15:51 |
| ali1234 | wait if i486 is a linked project with only 3 packages | 15:51 |
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| ali1234 | if i just delete the gcc package from it, will it go back to using the linked version? | 15:52 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 15:53 |
| Stskeeps | (afaik) | 15:53 |
| Stskeeps | ie, the one from Mer:Trunk:Base | 15:53 |
| ali1234 | it seems to have done... of course, now it's rebuilding everything again | 15:53 |
| Stskeeps | | 15:54 |
| Stskeeps | hint: in "raw config" if you don't want to wait for everything to rebuild, you can add in a <repository line, block="never" | 15:54 |
| ali1234 | hmm i just realised i can ln -s home:ali1234:branches:Mer:Trunk:Base:i486 i486 | 15:56 |
| ali1234 | then i don't have to deal with the colons | 15:56 |
| Stskeeps | also that | 15:59 |
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| ali1234 | hmm | 15:59 |
| ali1234 | i also need to delete my home branch of the package | 16:00 |
| ali1234 | otherwise when i try to branch the base one, i just get by existing branch instead | 16:00 |
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| ali1234 | Stskeeps: how do i back out of osc commit? | 16:39 |
| ali1234 | just delete the whole commitmsg? | 16:40 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, then it asks usually | 16:41 |
| ali1234 | right, all done | 16:45 |
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| ali1234 | so the branch sent back to the i486 project kept the branch reason line | 16:46 |
| ali1234 | http://monster.tspre.org:2080/package/show?package=glibc&project=Mer%3ATrunk%3ABase%3Ai486 | 16:47 |
| ali1234 | "Branching for i486 changes." | 16:47 |
| ali1234 | is that a problem? | 16:47 |
| Stskeeps | not really | 16:47 |
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| * CosmoHill is pleased that he's managed to program matrix multiplication | 16:48 | |
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| * CosmoHill is however very annoyed that he got the array names confused and spent a while debugging | 16:48 | |
| Stskeeps | congrats, then you find out you have to be able to do it in your head for exams | 16:48 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:48 |
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| CosmoHill | hehe | 16:48 |
| CosmoHill | I'm helping to teach a lesson on monday so I figured I'd do something that would be helpful | 16:49 |
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| CosmoHill | on another note, when adding two matrixes together, say A and B, don't call the output matrix AB | 16:51 |
| berndhs | use intuitive, mnemonic names like AB' | 16:53 |
| CosmoHill | when you type A instead of AB it becomes hard to spot | 16:54 |
| ali1234 | this is why i like to line up my code with spaces | 16:55 |
| CosmoHill | now to figure out how to parallelise it | 16:55 |
| ali1234 | even if the coding guidelines say don't do it | 16:55 |
| CosmoHill | that makes sense | 16:55 |
| ali1234 | then if you write A instead of AB the line is 1 char shorter and it is obvious | 16:55 |
| CosmoHill | you guys can see my code if you'd like | 16:56 |
| CosmoHill | (no debugging required) | 16:58 |
| berndhs | CosmoHill: to parallelize, note that multiplying sub-matrices is the same pattern as multimplying basic elements | 16:58 |
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| CosmoHill | http://black-flag.co.uk/code/Matrix_Multiplication.cpp.txt | 17:01 |
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| CosmoHill | I need to learn how to pass data with mpi | 17:04 |
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| CosmoHill | 33 for(n = 0; 0 < nthreads; n++) // Threads (OMP) | 18:15 |
| CosmoHill | I think that might cause an error or two | 18:15 |
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| berndhs | it will be ok for a while | 18:17 |
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| CosmoHill | hmm, I'm almost there, it returns the right number of stuff but not the right values | 18:20 |
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| berndhs | use more revealing test data, negative numbers, really big/small numbers, so you can tell the different data chunks apart | 18:22 |
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| CosmoHill | it's an 8 core computer so there should be 8 threads, there are | 18:23 |
| CosmoHill | but it's meant to go "hello from thread X" | 18:23 |
| CosmoHill | however 3 / 4 of them came out with the same ID | 18:23 |
| berndhs | ah | 18:23 |
| berndhs | so the distributing into threads isn't working right | 18:23 |
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| berndhs | can you get the core ID ? | 18:24 |
| CosmoHill | I made my program where it sends it's mpi ID to tyhe master | 18:25 |
| CosmoHill | I'm now adding openmp to it so it sends the mpi ID and thread ID as one number (eg mpi 1 thread 1 is 101) | 18:25 |
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| thiago | if your task is too fast, it might not need to use other CPUs | 18:28 |
| berndhs | also consider man sched_getcpu | 18:28 |
| CosmoHill | thiago the task is just to use them, so a 8 core computer will create 8 threads that go "hello I'm number #" | 18:28 |
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| thiago | use as in infinite loop? | 18:29 |
| CosmoHill | no, it knows how many there are | 18:29 |
| thiago | your work might not be scheduled to all cores | 18:29 |
| CosmoHill | I will check using top | 18:29 |
| CosmoHill | ah yes, something has become infinate | 18:30 |
| berndhs | right if the work units are too small, #7 won't start until #1 is finished | 18:30 |
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| matthieu | hi all | 18:33 |
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| matthieu | I'm a linux noob and I need to compile a module for my NIC but I don't know which package I need | 18:34 |
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| matthieu | any one could help me please | 18:34 |
| dm8tbr | what is the bigger picture? | 18:34 |
| CosmoHill | hi matthieu, what NIC do you have? | 18:35 |
| dm8tbr | what are you trying to achieve? under which MeeGo version? | 18:35 |
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| matthieu | a realtek 8169 | 18:35 |
| matthieu | and IVI meego version | 18:36 |
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| matthieu | I've drivers sources but when I'm lauching make I've this message : /lib/modules/2.6....../build : no such file or directory | 18:38 |
| CosmoHill | have you checked to see if the module is already there? | 18:38 |
| matthieu | I've searched but I'm lost and don't find module | 18:39 |
| matthieu | where can I search ? | 18:39 |
| CosmoHill | /lib/modules | 18:39 |
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| CosmoHill | berndhs & thiago: http://cross-lfs.org/~cosmo/pastebin/index.php?f9 it should read 101 to 108 (or at least 100 to 107) | 18:40 |
| matthieu | hummm ... there is nothing into this dir | 18:41 |
| CosmoHill | are you on the livecd? | 18:41 |
| matthieu | no | 18:41 |
| matthieu | I've just install it on my hardrive | 18:41 |
| berndhs | CosmoHill: if you're doing it right, you probably get all numbers 101..107, but not in any particular order | 18:43 |
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| CosmoHill | I have a nice stablity problem now, sometimes I get 8 numbers, sometimes I get 8 and it freezes and sometimes mpi hurls on my terminal | 18:43 |
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| berndhs | run the parts sequentially and see if they make sense | 18:46 |
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| CosmoHill | that's going to be very hard to do | 18:49 |
| berndhs | i mean you have several potential problems | 18:49 |
| CosmoHill | http://cross-lfs.org/~cosmo/pastebin/index.php?5h | 18:50 |
| CosmoHill | apart from some of the numbers being wrong it seems to be working fine now | 18:50 |
| CosmoHill | I'll try the omp threads separately and see if I can get them working | 18:50 |
| berndhs | like (1) you're messing up when partitioning the problem (2) you're sending the wrong parts to the wrong places (3) there is some race (4-n) soemthing else :) | 18:51 |
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| CosmoHill | race conditions seem likely | 18:51 |
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| berndhs | what's the granularity ? the sub-matrix size per thread ? | 18:52 |
| CosmoHill | the matrixes were a different thing, this was just me leaning about mpi send and recv | 18:53 |
| berndhs | ah | 18:53 |
| CosmoHill | that's next...maybe | 18:53 |
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| CosmoHill | archl_away: please make up your mind | 18:54 |
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| berndhs | i don't know what omp_get_thread_num() is | 18:55 |
| CosmoHill | got it! | 18:56 |
| CosmoHill | I made tmp private so each thread had it's own copy | 18:56 |
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| berndhs | indeed, the reason to have parallel programming is often to operate on different data in parallel :) | 18:57 |
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| CosmoHill | hehe yeah, this is just me learning | 18:59 |
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| CosmoHill | on monday I'm helping to teach 3rd year computing students :) | 19:00 |
| SpeedEvil | Teach them what? The value of screaming and running when something goes badly wrong? | 19:01 |
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| CosmoHill | you don't scream, that draws attention to yourself | 19:02 |
| CosmoHill | hmmm, there is a door in the middle of the department that you can exit but not enter through unless your finger print is on the system | 19:03 |
| CosmoHill | that could be used to trap first years | 19:03 |
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| CosmoHill | the biggest pressure is to not look stupid or make mistakes | 19:08 |
| CosmoHill | since I was top of the class last year and did my dissertation on HPC computing | 19:08 |
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| CosmoHill | (ego++) | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | meh, you can look stupid or mistake, the important thing is knowing 1) how to fix it and 2) not hide t | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | it | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:08 |
| CosmoHill | I was joking to my mate how I typed for(n =0; 0 < thing; n++) | 19:09 |
| CosmoHill | that took a bit of explaining to him | 19:09 |
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| dm8tbr | 16:10:16Ignoring NICKS from archl_away | 19:10 |
| dm8tbr | *PLONK* | 19:10 |
| SpeedEvil | CosmoHill: Why not just break? | 19:11 |
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| CosmoHill | you see what I did wrong, right? | 19:11 |
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| berndhs | yes you should be incrementing 0, not n | 19:12 |
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| * CosmoHill boots his desktop to do some more mpi omp testing, can't do it on my mac or server cos they're single cores and I don't trust the uni HPC | 19:14 | |
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| SpeedEvil | CosmoHill: There is nothing really inherently wrong in that - it's just odd | 19:15 |
| CosmoHill | just a typo | 19:16 |
| SpeedEvil | If it's a typo, then yes it's wrong | 19:16 |
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| CosmoHill | feck, I knew there was a reason I didn't install openmpi from the fedora repo | 19:18 |
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| berndhs | i want to do coarser grain parallelism | 19:23 |
| CosmoHill | dm8tbr: what command did you type to ignore the nick change messages? | 19:23 |
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| CosmoHill | coarser? | 19:24 |
| berndhs | i have a bunch of CPUs, but in separate computers | 19:24 |
| dm8tbr | in irssi: /ignore archl_away NICKS | 19:24 |
| berndhs | so threads are no good | 19:24 |
| CosmoHill | let's see if that worked | 19:25 |
| CosmoHill | berndhs: oh what I was doing was mpi first then omp | 19:25 |
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| CosmoHill | say I had two quad core computers, I'd of had to do (...hold on that didn't work | 19:26 |
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| CosmoHill | mpirun -np 8 program --host node0 --host node1 | 19:26 |
| berndhs | my old subject area is coming back with many core computers, 64 cores or 128 | 19:26 |
| CosmoHill | with mpi and omp I do mpirun -np 2 program --host node0 --host node1 | 19:27 |
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| berndhs | you get all the same problems of mapping programms to all those processors | 19:27 |
| CosmoHill | I didn't use omp before because I wanted total control over the number of cores being used | 19:27 |
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| berndhs | what does omp do ? | 19:28 |
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| CosmoHill | it automatically creates threads for parallel code | 19:29 |
| CosmoHill | hi Alison_Chaiken | 19:29 |
| berndhs | ah | 19:29 |
| CosmoHill | the hello 101 .. 108 was done by omp using the 8 cores or the computer | 19:29 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Hi CosmoHill | 19:29 |
| CosmoHill | berndhs: it's built into gcc, you just need to do "gcc -lgomp -fopenmp" | 19:30 |
| CosmoHill | (also build into VS Pro) | 19:30 |
| berndhs | i only have 2 cores in most machines, so multi-threading is not terribly interesting | 19:31 |
| CosmoHill | what I'm doing it purely for learning | 19:31 |
| CosmoHill | that and I get three 8 core computers on monday... | 19:31 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | CosmoHill, have you tried GnuParallells? | 19:31 |
| CosmoHill | building a HPC using a ring topology should be interesting | 19:31 |
| berndhs | but spreading a large computation over 6 or 7 hosts be more instructive | 19:32 |
| CosmoHill | Alison_Chaiken: I'll have a look | 19:32 |
| Alison_Chaiken | For me, the example in the man page resulted in *slower* performance, but parallels is cool anyway. | 19:32 |
| CosmoHill | ah it's for shell scripts | 19:32 |
| CosmoHill | that could come in very handy | 19:32 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Also, there's "gcc -j 4" right? For my quad-core machine, I found an increase in speed from "gcc -j4" all the way up to "gcc -j 10", where speed plateaued. | 19:33 |
| CosmoHill | is that just for compiling? | 19:33 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Parallels, like recursive function calls, will results in cleaner code even where it doesn't increase speed. | 19:33 |
| thiago | make -j4 | 19:33 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | Yes, I refer to the gcc compiler. The "-j" flag gives dramatic speed increases. | 19:34 |
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| thiago | there's no -j flag for gcc | 19:34 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I'm sure you're right, thiago, must be a "make" flag. | 19:35 |
| CosmoHill | I use make -j7 on my desktop | 19:35 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | Try -j14 and see if it's faster. If I/O limits your compilation speed, threads will pend on disk access, and meanwhile other threads can run. | 19:37 |
| CosmoHill | try -j :) | 19:37 |
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| CosmoHill | any suggestions of HPC cluster names? | 19:44 |
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| GAN900 | SuperSizzler | 19:45 |
| CosmoHill | I have been told that if we max out the RAM it will overheat | 19:46 |
| RST38h | GAN: Any decent sf shows currently running? | 19:47 |
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| RST38h | GAN: [other than S04 of Fringe that I already know of] | 19:47 |
| GAN900 | RST38h, not that I've been watching | 19:48 |
| GAN900 | Going through X-Files and Voyager on Netflix right now | 19:48 |
| GAN900 | That new Terra Whatsit is supposedly going to be good. | 19:48 |
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| javispedro | ooh, S04. | 19:50 |
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| RST38h | GAN: Terra Nova? | 19:52 |
| RST38h | GAN: Sure it is not another reincarnation of Earth2? =) | 19:52 |
| GAN900 | Yeah, kinda looks it, doesn't it? | 19:53 |
| * GAN900 feels like rewatching Farscape. | 19:53 | |
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| * CosmoHill might call his nodes Ryan, Joe and Jim | 20:00 | |
| alterego | GAN900: I started doing that a month ago | 20:02 |
| alterego | Got through season 2 now. | 20:02 |
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| w00t | archl_away: can you please fix your script/connection | 20:08 |
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| * CosmoHill now has dual digital monitors :) | 20:12 | |
| GAN900 | Welcome to 2006 | 20:12 |
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| CosmoHill | hehe | 20:13 |
| CosmoHill | I only plugged in the second montor so I can watch videos on it | 20:14 |
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| CosmoHill | of course the widescreen film is on the 5:4 monitor... | 20:15 |
| CosmoHill | fecking openmpi, failed to work because it put 64bit libs in /usr/lib and not /usr/lib64 | 20:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer | CosmoHill: call a node Gary | 20:20 |
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| CosmoHill | :( | 20:22 |
| SpeedEvil | And one bacon. | 20:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer | mmmm bacon | 20:22 |
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| Sazpaimon | has a standard price for an unlocked N9 been established yet | 20:40 |
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| * thiago paid 4490 NOK | 20:49 | |
| CosmoHill | is that a lot? | 20:50 |
| thiago | I don't know, this is the first phone I buy since 2006 | 20:51 |
| w00t | thiago: :-) | 20:51 |
| w00t | we're preordering ours soon | 20:51 |
| w00t | you bought through telenor, I guess? | 20:51 |
| thiago | no, unlocked | 20:51 |
| thiago | on cdon.no | 20:51 |
| CosmoHill | last phone I bought was a second hand T610 for £25 | 20:51 |
| w00t | huh?! | 20:51 |
| w00t | telenor say they have them exclusively until january | 20:51 |
| thiago | maybe exclusivity on operator discounts | 20:52 |
| w00t | ok | 20:52 |
| w00t | good tip | 20:52 |
| * thiago has NetCom service | 20:52 | |
| w00t | I want simfree/unlocked if I can manage it | 20:52 |
| w00t | heh | 20:52 |
| w00t | we have telenor, because of their family pack | 20:52 |
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| CosmoHill | berndhs: i think I could write a little omp mpi code that would detect the number of avaiable core for a program | 21:03 |
| berndhs | CosmoHill: yes, spawn off a few thousand medium weight sub-tasks | 21:04 |
| berndhs | and do monte-carlo stuff | 21:04 |
| CosmoHill | i was thinking like, it would help with multicore support | 21:05 |
| CosmoHill | I've seen programs where you have to tell it how many cores you have | 21:05 |
| berndhs | using more cores doesn't necessarily make it faster | 21:06 |
| berndhs | shipping out the work and collecting the results is not free | 21:06 |
| CosmoHill | well you wouldn't use it for those bits | 21:06 |
| CosmoHill | that would be stupid | 21:06 |
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| CosmoHill | berndhs: you're refering to amhaldales law | 21:10 |
| CosmoHill | no idea how to spell his name :/ | 21:10 |
| berndhs | no, i'm referring to granularity mismatch | 21:10 |
| berndhs | trade-off between communication and computation cost, basically | 21:10 |
| berndhs | even if you use shared memory, communication is not free | 21:10 |
| thiago | CosmoHill: getting the number of cores is pretty easy | 21:11 |
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| CosmoHill | :) | 21:24 |
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| artemma | Hi All | 21:26 |
| SpeedEvil | hi | 21:26 |
| CosmoHill | salutr | 21:26 |
| CosmoHill | -r | 21:26 |
| artemma | can somebody help with compiling meego middleware? | 21:26 |
| w00t | what part? | 21:26 |
| CosmoHill | no idea, ask another question | 21:26 |
| artemma | I am trying to figure out how timed works and fail to compile examples | 21:26 |
| artemma | ok, anybody know how to compile any package from meego middleware? :) | 21:27 |
| artemma | I am feeling that I am missing something basic | 21:27 |
| w00t | they all vary.. so.. | 21:27 |
| w00t | are you trying to build timed? | 21:27 |
| artemma | so tutorial on any package could help | 21:27 |
| artemma | yep, timed | 21:27 |
| artemma | well, I need examples only, but on that route I failed alredy | 21:27 |
| CosmoHill | I have an openmpi.spec file that compiles on the obs | 21:28 |
| artemma | It is not enough to have just Qt SDK installed, is it? | 21:28 |
| w00t | http://build.meego.com/package/view_file?file=timed.yaml&package=timed&project=Trunk%3ATesting&srcmd5=8835bb0f291af4a275e42cc3938b4edb | 21:28 |
| * artemma comes from the Symbian world and *nix is a little Greek to me | 21:28 | |
| w00t | that shows what you need to have installed to build it (PkgBR and PkgConfigBR sections) | 21:28 |
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| w00t | there's no configuration step | 21:28 |
| artemma | reading.. | 21:29 |
| w00t | so, run qmake -r CONFIG += MEEGO, and then it should just be a case of 'make' | 21:29 |
| artemma | trying | 21:29 |
| artemma | I have several qmakes installed | 21:31 |
| artemma | I need to care to choose one from harmattan, right? | 21:31 |
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| w00t | I don't know anything about what you're trying to do, so I can't really answer that | 21:32 |
| w00t | and I don't know if the code in MeeGo will represent the code in harmattan, either | 21:32 |
| w00t | they're two different things | 21:32 |
| artemma | ok, tried running qmake -r CONFIG+=MEEGO on a example for timed project, got errors about syntax :/ | 21:34 |
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| artemma | sh: pkg-config: command not found | 21:34 |
| w00t | install pkg-config in whatever way you install things on your distribution | 21:35 |
| artemma | same with the whole project | 21:35 |
| artemma | I am on Mac | 21:35 |
| artemma | hmm, will search macports | 21:35 |
| w00t | then you're probably going to have a very, very bad time trying to build any of this stuff | 21:35 |
| artemma | why is that? | 21:36 |
| w00t | because it isn't standalone | 21:36 |
| w00t | it relies on a lot of other libraries | 21:36 |
| w00t | see the PkgBR and PkgConfigBR fields I pointed out before | 21:36 |
| artemma | I mean, I know mac is not a full blown linux, but it is well POSIX compatible and stuff | 21:36 |
| CosmoHill | artemma: does your mac have an intel graphics card? | 21:36 |
| artemma | CosmoHill, I think so | 21:37 |
| w00t | artemma: I didn't say it was impossible, just that you will have a hard time ;) | 21:37 |
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| CosmoHill | god lord, 1203 packages for fedora 15 | 21:41 |
| CosmoHill | my server has 99 | 21:41 |
| artemma | hmm, macports installs pkgconfig in a very strange way :) | 21:44 |
| artemma | ---> Computing dependencies for pkgconfig | 21:44 |
| artemma | ---> Cleaning pkgconfig | 21:44 |
| artemma | and that;s it :) | 21:44 |
| CosmoHill | artemma: on my mac I created /opt and put /opt/bin and /opt/sbin in the front of my path | 21:44 |
| artemma | created for what? | 21:45 |
| artemma | ah, got you | 21:45 |
| * artemma went to dit his .profile | 21:45 | |
| CosmoHill | i started it for tar cos I wanted compression regionisation and apple update replaced my tar each time >.< | 21:46 |
| artemma | oh shit, did I delete my .profile lately | 21:48 |
| * artemma vaguely remembers not that clean experiments with some cleaning and deployment scripts | 21:48 | |
| CosmoHill | artemma: history | grep .profile | 21:48 |
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| artemma | that was from shell script | 21:49 |
| CosmoHill | oh | 21:49 |
| artemma | well, nevermind, I'll restore | 21:49 |
| CosmoHill | I made a typo in a script and cleared out the wrong directory | 21:49 |
| artemma | there were just a couple of vars for running qml tests from command line | 21:49 |
| artemma | it's pity that stuff deleted by shell script doesn't get to recycle bin | 21:49 |
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| CosmoHill | my mac rsyncs to my server :) | 21:52 |
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| artemma | I just store my whole workarea in svn | 21:52 |
| CosmoHill | been doing it for years and only just now I've thought of making it a logout item | 21:52 |
| artemma | but not exactly the home folder | 21:52 |
| artemma | ok, got one step further | 21:53 |
| artemma | now libpcrecpp is not found | 21:53 |
| * artemma goes to macports again, hopefully it has all the packages needed | 21:54 | |
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| artemma | oups, it doesn't have libpcrecpp | 21:54 |
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| artemma | but harmattan has! | 21:55 |
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| artemma | ./sysroots/harmattan-arm-sysroot/usr/lib/libpcrecpp.so.0 | 21:56 |
| artemma | now why doesn't qmake find it :/ | 21:56 |
| berndhs | artemma: you need the lib on the target and in the cross-build environment, having it on the host doesn't do any good | 21:56 |
| artemma | well, that looks like cross-build environment to me | 21:57 |
| berndhs | does it have the headers too ? | 21:57 |
| artemma | that's from find on my mac | 21:57 |
| artemma | nope, headers I was looking for earlier | 21:57 |
| artemma | plenty of these libraries don't have headers | 21:58 |
| artemma | some do | 21:58 |
| artemma | libpcrecpp doesn't | 21:58 |
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| artemma | or maybe they have different file names | 21:59 |
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| artemma | I am searching for "*libpcrecpp.so*" | 21:59 |
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| Sazpaimon | [13:49] * thiago paid 4490 NOK | 21:59 |
| Sazpaimon | about $770 | 22:00 |
| Sazpaimon | for the 64GB version? | 22:00 |
| artemma | searched for precpp.h now | 22:00 |
| artemma | indeed this header is missing | 22:00 |
| artemma | only present in Fremantle SDK :)\ | 22:00 |
| w00t | Sazpaimon: this *is* norway we're talking about | 22:01 |
| w00t | (no) | 22:01 |
| w00t | Sazpaimon: also, hi | 22:01 |
| * w00t realises the world is once again a small place | 22:01 | |
| Sazpaimon | hey w00t, long time no see | 22:01 |
| RST38h | What is "NOK"? A Nokia share? | 22:01 |
| Sazpaimon | RST38h, its their trade symbol in the US | 22:01 |
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| w00t | RST38h: norwegian krones, in this case | 22:02 |
| Stskeeps | RST38h: 4490 nokia shares, naturally | 22:02 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 22:02 |
| w00t | but yeah | 22:02 |
| Stskeeps | N9 gets cheaper when nokia stock goes down, or something.. | 22:02 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 22:02 |
| w00t | they probably have the same value :-) | 22:02 |
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| Sazpaimon | also | 22:02 |
| Sazpaimon | [15:01] * w00t realises the world is once again a small place | 22:02 |
| RST38h | Stskeeps: well, at least it SOUNDS logical | 22:03 |
| Sazpaimon | its even more smaller when you realize two seperate ircd developers quit their development positions for the same thing | 22:03 |
| Sazpaimon | :P | 22:03 |
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| Stskeeps | me and w00t? | 22:03 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 22:03 |
| Sazpaimon | yeah | 22:03 |
| Stskeeps | sorry, he was useful to take along, we can't have competent people in ircd world | 22:03 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 22:03 |
| w00t | 3.5, if you count that thiago also did ircd in the past | 22:03 |
| w00t | (but not as much afair) | 22:03 |
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| w00t | er, 2.5 | 22:04 |
| w00t | apparently maths is not my strong point! | 22:04 |
| javispedro | create irc daemons, develop operating system | 22:04 |
| javispedro | it's such a natural evolution | 22:04 |
| javispedro | ;) | 22:04 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: judging by all the shit code in ircd, indeed | 22:04 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 22:04 |
| Sazpaimon | ive been without my N900 for almost 2 months now | 22:04 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: only one of them... ;) | 22:04 |
| * w00t runs | 22:04 | |
| w00t | Sazpaimon: mine's sitting next to me still, although it tries to commit suicide occasionally | 22:05 |
| Sazpaimon | first the screen shatters when I drop a laptop charger brick on it, then when I get the replacement digitizer, they send it to me without the metal frame | 22:05 |
| Sazpaimon | and the old digitizer doesn't work | 22:05 |
| Sazpaimon | so they send me another one, and when I go to plug it in, the flex cable tears | 22:05 |
| Sazpaimon | :( | 22:05 |
| w00t | they are a tad fragile | 22:05 |
| Sazpaimon | a tad? | 22:06 |
| Sazpaimon | understatement of the decade | 22:06 |
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| Sazpaimon | but yeah, Im stuck with a pantech impact | 22:06 |
| Stskeeps | it's nokia's way of making sure they don't have to support n900's in the long run from software side. because there's simply not any left. | 22:07 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 22:07 |
| Stskeeps | working ones, that is | 22:07 |
| Sazpaimon | i also have a nokia 1616, but that doesnt have any web | 22:07 |
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| Sazpaimon | I gave my mom my E71, so Im without a smartphone :( | 22:07 |
| * w00t will preorder his n9 soon | 22:08 | |
| * CosmoHill will get a new(er) phone when he breaks his current one | 22:08 | |
| Sazpaimon | so will I once I'm confident I can safely afford it | 22:08 |
| Sazpaimon | I just bought a new laptop for about the same price the N9 is selling for | 22:08 |
| w00t | yes, well ;) | 22:08 |
| RST38h | Stskeeps: Well, they had to stop making them at some point | 22:09 |
| Stskeeps | RST38h: point | 22:09 |
| Sazpaimon | RST38h, judging by how easy it is to get N900 parts direct from China, I'd say it's pretty easy to make them indefinately | 22:09 |
| RST38h | Stskeeps: The N950/N9 thingie did look like an insult to everyone's sanity though | 22:09 |
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| RST38h | Stskeeps: And yes, I am absolutely ok with MTF, as long as it is easy to program in and does the UI job | 22:10 |
| Stskeeps | RST38h: tangent? | 22:10 |
| Sazpaimon | we're taking on a new mobile project at my job, and my boss asked us to make a list of phones to buy | 22:10 |
| RST38h | Stskeeps: Treatment of Harmattan development as a whole (both sw and hw) | 22:10 |
| Sazpaimon | I'm going to try to finegale an N9 on that list | 22:10 |
| Sazpaimon | even though we're based in the US | 22:11 |
| Stskeeps | RST38h: no clue what you're on about :P | 22:11 |
| RST38h | Stskeeps: ah, forget it then =) | 22:11 |
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| RST38h | Mghm | 22:19 |
| RST38h | I am copying 1.5GB of data from an SSD-equipped notebook to the MMC-equied N950. | 22:19 |
| RST38h | Something is *making harddrive sounds*, like a head seeking. | 22:20 |
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| RST38h | Am I missing something, or is it a shrink I am missing? | 22:20 |
| * CosmoHill is flicking through his pictures and is somehow making the laptop overheat | 22:24 | |
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| SpeedEvil | RST38h: Audio or power supply equipment can make noises on varying current demand. | 22:31 |
| artemma | CosmoHill, must be some hot pictures :) | 22:32 |
| artemma | like naked microchips :) | 22:32 |
| CosmoHill | good thing the laptop isn't on my lap | 22:32 |
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| RST38h | SpeedEvil: Thanks,Captain :) | 22:35 |
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| CosmoHill | oh wtf | 22:45 |
| CosmoHill | my laptop went to sleep and now can't mount the hard drive | 22:45 |
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| SpeedEvil | :/ | 22:59 |
| CosmoHill | it won't connect automatically | 22:59 |
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| CosmoHill | yay, updating networkmanager worked :) | 23:08 |
| CosmoHill | balls, forgot to fix the boot loader | 23:11 |
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