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lcuk | Jaffa, lbt, Stskeeps - i hope that is ok. | 00:43 |
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lbt | email? | 00:43 |
lcuk | yes | 00:44 |
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lcuk | cc the ml if its ok | 00:44 |
lbt | on TODO | 00:44 |
lbt | lcuk: can we have a group chat tomorrow or saturday? | 00:46 |
lcuk | sure | 00:46 |
berndhs | while you guys are here, what can i do to advance CE with my 950 without moslo ? | 00:46 |
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lbt | berndhs: sorry, I can't answer that | 00:48 |
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Ulf_ | :) | 00:53 |
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lbt | good mood today eh? | 00:57 |
auke | I can't reach you from here :) | 00:58 |
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lbt | auke: did you see my blog post on meego ? the 'by installments' one ? | 01:03 |
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auke | sorry, no, link? | 01:05 |
lbt | http://mer-l-in.blogspot.com/2011/08/restructure-meego-by-installments.html | 01:05 |
lbt | not short ... but I put a lot of effort into it :) | 01:05 |
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auke | hehe, hardly a "blog post" indeed, by size :) | 01:06 |
CosmoHill | >.> | 01:06 |
CosmoHill | <.< | 01:06 |
CosmoHill | ^.^ | 01:06 |
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lbt | it's a subject worthy of some consideration,,,, quite a lot as it turned out... | 01:07 |
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* lbt prods Ulf_ to maybe take a look too :) | 01:08 | |
auke | It's certianly worthwhile to write out like that | 01:08 |
lbt | Feedback would be appreciated ... in general there's been a lot of "positive vibes" but I'm happy to find areas that need to be rethought | 01:10 |
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dm8tbr | berndhs_meego: the problem is that although you can flash your own kernel, it doesn't boot properly or sthg like that, ask Stskeeps | 06:50 |
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dm8tbr | hmmm first core obs went down for a 30min nap and then api started flapping for 2h | 06:59 |
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dm8tbr | good moaning | 07:54 |
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biedro | good cause its friday :) | 08:36 |
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lcuk | moo | 10:30 |
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lcuk | what a nice email this morning :) | 10:56 |
Stskeeps | "you're fired"? | 10:57 |
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lcuk | Stskeeps, the opposite :) | 10:58 |
Stskeeps | you're fired, out of a cannon? ;) | 10:59 |
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lcuk | why isn't javispedro ever online | 11:06 |
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hena | http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20110901PD217.html | 11:14 |
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hena | huh? | 11:14 |
hena | doesn't seem good | 11:15 |
Stskeeps | hena: industry sources, intel states it's committed, what else could they say? | 11:15 |
Stskeeps | it's being blown up a bit from being a rumour | 11:15 |
hena | ok | 11:15 |
Stskeeps | i saw a intel commit this morning | 11:15 |
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lcuk | Stskeeps, hopefully on the calculator | 11:17 |
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Venemo | Stskeeps, so you're saying that link is lying? | 11:32 |
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Venemo | it sure looks like just speculation | 11:33 |
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Stskeeps | Venemo: i'm saying it doesn't look very documented | 11:35 |
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Venemo | and I'm saying it looks like FUD | 11:36 |
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RST38h | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20100779-64/meego-os-fading-fast-intel-says-its-still-committed/ | 11:50 |
Stskeeps | mm, futurama episode | 11:50 |
niqt | in what sense? | 11:54 |
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lcuk | morning lardman \o | 12:40 |
lardman | hey lcuk | 12:41 |
CosmoHill | .o/ | 12:41 |
lardman | it's a girl, but we already knew that | 12:41 |
lardman | born on Sunday, 8lb 11 ! | 12:41 |
Stskeeps | congratulations lardman :) | 12:41 |
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lardman | thanks Stskeeps | 12:41 |
CosmoHill | congrats | 12:42 |
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lcuk | congrats Simon :D | 12:42 |
lcuk | lardman, what have you named her? | 12:42 |
lardman | 3.93 kg iirc | 12:42 |
lardman | Ella | 12:42 |
lcuk | :D | 12:43 |
lardman | thanks CosmoHill, lcuk | 12:43 |
CosmoHill | thanks | 12:43 |
CosmoHill | oo, cool name | 12:43 |
lardman | and dare I say it, she does indeed sleep like a baby, though I'm still not used to needing to get up 3 times a night | 12:43 |
CosmoHill | reminds me of my french cousins, who's names I can't spell | 12:43 |
SpeedEvil | lardman: :) | 12:44 |
* SpeedEvil idly wonders why nobody sells fume-cupboards for changing babies. | 12:44 | |
lardman | SpeedEvil: they don't smell much to begin with actually, I was quite surprised | 12:45 |
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SpeedEvil | I know. | 12:45 |
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lardman | The one good thing about being in hospital (Holly, not me) is the fact they now have QR codes on the inpatient wrist tags ;) | 12:45 |
SpeedEvil | :) | 12:46 |
* SpeedEvil prepares for the 'massive patient confidentiality leak' story. | 12:46 | |
lardman | SpeedEvil: the scented nappy bags could probably disgise the smell of a missing Iraqi mustard gas WMD, at least so far anyway | 12:46 |
RST38h | OMG, wife's wrists, N900, barcode scanner app - it just does not get any better =) | 12:46 |
lardman | RST38h: indeed, though she was less keen on the holding still so husband can test his application business :) | 12:47 |
lardman | SpeedEvil: it only encodes name, hispital number and NHS number, so same as is written | 12:47 |
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aleksander_m | ... how do I install build deps with zypper? | 13:06 |
aleksander_m | (without source-install) | 13:06 |
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Jaffa | lcuk: Would you see your proposal sitting within the CE block on my Blueprint? | 13:07 |
Jaffa | lcuk: Or is it a parallel/alternative/next-step proposal? | 13:07 |
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lcuk | Jaffa, i was asked to create a document for the CE which exists within MeeGo | 13:17 |
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Jaffa | lcuk: OK. I remembered *something* about CE coming under the formeego.org banner /before/ Blueprint was mooted. | 13:35 |
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ali1234 | aleksander_m: by default si installs the dependencies and the source, if you specify -D you get only deps, and if you specify -d you get only the source | 13:39 |
ali1234 | or maybe it is the other way around | 13:39 |
ali1234 | also note that meego-packaging-tools and meego-development-tools are not listed in build deps, you have to install them manually | 13:40 |
ali1234 | and if you run into packages that won't build, please let me know | 13:40 |
ali1234 | i can't do anything about it, i just like to complain about them | 13:40 |
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ali1234 | -d is only dependencies and -D is no dependencies | 13:42 |
ali1234 | so you want zypper si -d | 13:42 |
aleksander_m | ali1234, ahh, great :-) thanks | 13:43 |
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Guest | 分 | 14:24 |
CosmoHill | no | 14:24 |
lcuk | jaffa ask jukka, he was the one who asked me to write it. | 14:26 |
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fiferboy | Does MeeGO CE use qt components? | 16:37 |
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Stskeeps | fiferboy: we're rebasing on meego 1.3 that gives us qt 4.8 and better qt components | 16:40 |
Stskeeps | fiferboy: http://blip.tv/carsten-munk/qt-components-harmattan-on-n900-meego-1-3-based-5508447 | 16:40 |
fiferboy | Stskeeps, thanks. | 16:41 |
radiofree | fiferboy: theres also http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Blogs/blog/kate-alholas-forum-nokia-blog/2011/07/08/porting-meego-1.2-harmattan-qt-quick-components for 1.2 | 16:41 |
fiferboy | I was wondering what qt components uses for the theming without blanco available | 16:41 |
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fiferboy | radiofree, right. I take it that uses 'base' theme | 16:42 |
radiofree | fiferboy: sorry, no idea | 16:42 |
Stskeeps | fiferboy: we have a base theme that's free | 16:42 |
fiferboy | NP. I added colour themes to qt-components for Harmattan and would like to do so for non-Harmattan | 16:43 |
fiferboy | base theme doesn't have multiple coloured widget images I think | 16:43 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 16:44 |
fiferboy | Maybe I could do it a different way | 16:44 |
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fiferboy | Either creates colorized versions of the open source component images | 16:44 |
fiferboy | Or add a color filter to them somehow | 16:45 |
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fiferboy | although maybe outside Harmattan color widgets aren't that desirable | 16:45 |
fiferboy | It is good in Harmattan to match the system colours | 16:46 |
khertan | system colours ? | 16:46 |
khertan | hu there is one ? | 16:46 |
khertan | (i mean seriously) | 16:46 |
fiferboy | khertan, In Harmattan yes | 16:47 |
fiferboy | outside that not really | 16:47 |
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ScriptRipper | Hi Stskeeps, I had put a number of your patches to reduce rebuild into my 1.2.0 rebuild test repo | 17:13 |
Stskeeps | ok | 17:13 |
ScriptRipper | before I submit cpio and m4 -x86, I check if it works fine first | 17:13 |
ScriptRipper | then I upload into my home: at meego.com OBS | 17:13 |
ScriptRipper | and we see what has to happen with it | 17:14 |
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Stskeeps | yep | 17:15 |
ScriptRipper | I use 1.2.0 because Trunk is for me too much of a moving target :D | 17:15 |
ScriptRipper | Stskeeps, you said to use substitute is too invasive. What kind of keyword do you have in mind instead ? | 17:17 |
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ScriptRipper | a modified suggests ? | 17:18 |
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ScriptRipper | or a kind of CBsuggests: ? | 17:19 |
Stskeeps | ok, like, CBinstall: X if installed(Y) | 17:19 |
Stskeeps | so CBinstall: doxygen-x86 if installed(doxygen) | 17:19 |
Stskeeps | if you get my idea | 17:19 |
ScriptRipper | yes | 17:19 |
Stskeeps | then we can even do groff-x86 | 17:19 |
ScriptRipper | yes | 17:19 |
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ScriptRipper | what would be the "non CB version" ? | 17:20 |
ScriptRipper | just installif | 17:20 |
Stskeeps | something like that i gues | 17:20 |
Stskeeps | s | 17:20 |
Stskeeps | it's mostly useful for cross stuff | 17:20 |
ScriptRipper | ok | 17:22 |
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dneary | Hi | 17:30 |
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dneary | Just read this (completely unconfirmed) bombshell: http://www.itworld.com/mobile-wireless/199679/intel-pulls-meego-plug | 17:30 |
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leinir | *nods* yup, it's been making the rounds | 17:31 |
Stskeeps | dneary: yes, if you look at the article it's "we heard from a industry source X and intel states it's commited to meego" | 17:31 |
leinir | And yes, utterly and completely unfounded in reality :) | 17:31 |
dneary | Stskeeps, You think I didn't qualify it enough with "totally unconfirmed"? | 17:31 |
dneary | leinir, This is not the first time I have heard this or similar rumours | 17:31 |
Stskeeps | dneary: had to debunk it more, even though things are way too silent around here for my own good | 17:32 |
Stskeeps | i think there's some reallocation ongoing in intel and more focus on IVI/TV, tbh | 17:32 |
dneary | "similar rumours" => perhaps moving away from community development to more structure consortium approach | 17:32 |
leinir | dneary: *nods* Yup, heard it too | 17:32 |
Stskeeps | meh, if meego turns out to be a failboat, i'm grooming Mer for a revival | 17:33 |
Stskeeps | :P | 17:33 |
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Stskeeps | redshirts never give up ;) | 17:33 |
SpeedEvil | Stskeeps: :) | 17:33 |
leinir | never surrender, never give up? ;) | 17:34 |
leinir | isn't that the Galaxy Quest motto? ;) | 17:34 |
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RST38h | Stskeeps: Will you go back to Debian for Mer? =) | 17:34 |
Stskeeps | RST38h: no, i've grown to like rpm's enough | 17:35 |
Stskeeps | and remembering how much stuff i had to cut through in debian.. | 17:35 |
RST38h | And Meego is much leaner? | 17:36 |
Stskeeps | RST38h: yeah, often it's just about removing buildrequires and think adapt | 17:36 |
Stskeeps | things | 17:36 |
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Stskeeps | RST38h: in debian you often have to sacrifice furry animals | 17:39 |
RST38h | You are saying as if it were a bad thing! | 17:40 |
berndhs | see, that's why I never got the hang of debian, I used chickens | 17:40 |
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Myrtti | the safe bet is herring, either atlantic or baltic | 17:44 |
Myrtti | it works magic | 17:44 |
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RST38h | anyone tried humans? I have heard they work like a charm... | 17:47 |
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berndhs | i suppose an advantage of closed development is that you _can_ sacrifice humans | 17:50 |
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TSCHAKeee | always nice when industry speculation makes me incredibly depressed. | 18:00 |
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* Stskeeps offers TSCHAKeee a hug | 18:00 | |
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Stskeeps | TSCHAKeee: saw my http://monster.tspre.org:2080/project/packages?project=Mer%3ATrunk%3ABase ? | 18:01 |
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Stskeeps | (and http://monster.tspre.org:2080/project/packages?project=Mer%3ATrunk%3AQt - enough to get up to qt) | 18:01 |
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TSCHAKeee | stskeeps: awesome :) | 18:10 |
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CosmoHill | since when has MeeGoBot been an op? | 18:21 |
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Stskeeps | prolly a typo by me | 18:22 |
CosmoHill | typos are fun | 18:23 |
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berndhs | that's an easy mistake to make | 18:27 |
CosmoHill | thiago: you should have seen what happened when he tried to type "goodbye" | 18:27 |
CosmoHill | all those poor little rabbits | 18:27 |
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* lcuk ponders | 18:39 | |
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lcuk | rule 9: try your best. | 18:53 |
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berndhs | lcuk: do, don't try | 19:02 |
lcuk | berndhs, I do | 19:02 |
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timoph | lcuk: watching zombieland? | 19:24 |
lcuk | timoph, not recently | 19:24 |
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timoph | that rule comment just made me think of the rules in it :) | 19:25 |
lcuk | timoph, it is one of the rules me and jake have built up over the years | 19:26 |
timoph | sounds like a good rule to follow | 19:26 |
* lcuk has been pondering #9 for a while but I say it enough to him | 19:26 | |
lcuk | the others are just as sensible :) | 19:27 |
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jykae_n950 | has anyone tried enlightenment on meego? | 19:31 |
lcuk | jykae_n950, I wasn't aware the libs had been built | 19:32 |
lcuk | timoph, are you going to openmind.fi? | 19:32 |
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jykae_n950 | captainigloo has been doing packaging for harmattan at least | 19:33 |
timoph | lcuk: most likely yes | 19:33 |
timoph | I'll know on monday | 19:34 |
jykae_n950 | is openmind free conf? | 19:36 |
timoph | no | 19:36 |
timoph | ~180e | 19:36 |
jykae_n950 | :( | 19:36 |
jykae_n950 | it's even in tampere this time | 19:37 |
timoph | yep | 19:38 |
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lcuk | jykae_n950, see about sponsorship | 19:49 |
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captainigloo | jykae_n950: build is not working | 19:53 |
captainigloo | need more work to have all packages | 19:53 |
maligor | tampere is in the wilderness beyond kehä 3 with polar bears and killer seals | 19:53 |
jykae_n950 | maligor: haha :D | 19:54 |
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jykae_n950 | captainigloo: ok | 19:56 |
jykae_n950 | captainigloo: I could try also build at some point | 20:00 |
jykae_n950 | I have just got into enlightenment on desktop, | 20:01 |
jykae_n950 | want to see this also on mobile | 20:02 |
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auke | Sage: thx for fixing & updating systemd...! | 20:06 |
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CosmoHill | kudos to Sage | 20:08 |
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Stskeeps | auke: we have a race towards a 1.3 core + seperate MTF-based UI in end of september, hence the bugfixes ;) | 20:08 |
auke | cool | 20:10 |
auke | well the 1.3 core should be pretty darn nice now... startup should be quick and plugging new UI's should be easier | 20:10 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 20:10 |
Stskeeps | i was surprised with how good performance we got with qt components on top of 4.8 | 20:11 |
Stskeeps | and startup, too | 20:11 |
javispedro | I ponder.. | 20:11 |
javispedro | what kind of stuff is currently considering not-core? | 20:11 |
auke | apart from Qt, I've seen several UI's start in ~10 seconds or so on pinetrail (with ssd, though) | 20:11 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 20:11 |
javispedro | *considered | 20:11 |
Stskeeps | javispedro: google meego package-groups as a start | 20:12 |
auke | javispedro: for me personally, core is everything *under* Qt & friends | 20:12 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 20:12 |
auke | sensor stuff is pretty much core nowadays | 20:12 |
javispedro | but | 20:13 |
javispedro | "the minimal subset required to get Qt to run" != the minimal subset to do anything useful with it? | 20:13 |
Stskeeps | javispedro: well, there's always build requirements | 20:14 |
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javispedro | those alone are not enough to do anything useful with it... | 20:14 |
* CosmoHill thinks "The Other Guys" better get interesting soon | 20:14 | |
javispedro | I mean, Qt does not even strictly require X11... | 20:14 |
auke | in essence | 20:15 |
auke | core means | 20:15 |
auke | that which can support any UX | 20:15 |
javispedro | ok :) | 20:15 |
auke | take out qt/mtf, plug in netbook | 20:15 |
Stskeeps | i intend to look at qt mobility's dependancies .. those really look crazy on a distance | 20:15 |
javispedro | Stskeeps: exactly | 20:16 |
* javispedro figures that all the crap that must be on the current core is there for a reason. | 20:16 | |
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auke | javispedro: unfortunately, yes... | 20:17 |
Stskeeps | i think it's crazy that iputils has a LaTeX build dependancy | 20:19 |
Stskeeps | :P | 20:19 |
javispedro | you'll always find crazy ones like that one =) | 20:20 |
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RST38h | Heya javispedro | 20:21 |
javispedro | helo | 20:21 |
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RST38h | How is life tonight? | 20:21 |
javispedro | pondering where to waste it on :) | 20:22 |
javispedro | maybe I should take that look on dgles2... | 20:22 |
Stskeeps | heh, was just going to suggest it | 20:22 |
RST38h | javispedro: preenv! | 20:22 |
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jykae_n950 | Stskeeps: iputils has latex build dependency, pfft :) | 20:28 |
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javispedro | tell that to me, this morning I had to upgrade latex on my workstation and ended up breaking gnome-session, the clock applet, and firefox | 20:30 |
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* javispedro has still not been able to figure why | 20:30 | |
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javispedro | (it is gentoo, which, because of most autoconf scripts have a tendency to enable a feature automatically if the related library is there, has a tendency to have weird library dependencies everywhere. | 20:32 |
javispedro | ) | 20:32 |
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auke | the trick is to build in a chroot so you don't have that issue | 20:33 |
auke | unfortunately, that is extremely expensive if you run a source distro like gentoo | 20:34 |
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barroca | hello, where i can get more information on ohmd and how to implement my own policy package? | 20:36 |
RST38h | javispedro: I would avoid gentoo like plague | 20:41 |
javispedro | RST38h: the ability to auto apply my patches when new versions come is priceless | 20:41 |
RST38h | javispedro: Last time I had to use it, a Python upgrade brought down the whole packages update system | 20:41 |
javispedro | RST38h: think ripping pulseaudio and reapplying the alsa-based mixer implementation patch on gnome everytime a update comes, automatically | 20:42 |
RST38h | javispedro: ah, interesting... | 20:42 |
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RST38h | javispedro: But I gave up on removing PA. | 20:42 |
javispedro | (of course, the patch sometimes breaks, so it takes time... but gnome folks do not change this stuff that often) | 20:42 |
RST38h | Did manage to disable Tracker on desktop, after it generated 300MB+ of metadata | 20:43 |
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lcuk | javispedro, ahh | 20:46 |
lcuk | your sdl patches | 20:46 |
javispedro | what? | 20:46 |
lcuk | are they needed for MT on meego netbook? | 20:46 |
javispedro | yes | 20:46 |
lcuk | ie my ideapad | 20:46 |
lcuk | will they work there? | 20:46 |
javispedro | yep | 20:46 |
lcuk | :D awesome | 20:46 |
javispedro | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76HMBHESVLU | 20:46 |
javispedro | as long as Meego doesn't start using newer XInput.. | 20:47 |
lcuk | :D boobie test | 20:47 |
javispedro | :) | 20:47 |
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jkt | javispedro: thanks for your binhash.py script, I've just used it to sign my libqmldbg_tcp.so, and now I can enjoy remote QML debugging. Thanks! | 20:58 |
* jkt goes to the pub | 20:58 | |
berndhs | remote debugging from the pub, always wanted to work like that | 20:59 |
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Sage | auke: np. | 21:08 |
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Sage | I hope we can get the MTF based UX ported on top of the 1.3 core during next week so we can start testing the MeeGo core more as well. | 21:11 |
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Sage | Would be nice if someone would fix the Tablet UX in 1.3 so users could boot the 1.3 on exopc for example. The sad thing is that people controlling devel:meego-ux project are not very active atm. :/ | 21:12 |
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IanWizard | I'm thinking of getting a German mail forward, to get the N9 | 21:14 |
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Stskeeps | why not just go to berlin for a weekend?.. | 21:14 |
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IanWizard | Stskeeps, seriously? | 21:15 |
Bostik | Stskeeps: I'd take an extended weekend, if I could | 21:16 |
Stskeeps | why not? :P | 21:16 |
IanWizard | Stskeeps, at least a 12 hour flight for a phone? | 21:16 |
Bostik | it's a nice city but two days is not enough to even get a round much | 21:16 |
Stskeeps | IanWizard: no idea where you live | 21:16 |
Bostik | this year I won't even dream of attending CCC, though :/ | 21:16 |
IanWizard | US | 21:16 |
IanWizard | :P | 21:16 |
IanWizard | actually... :( | 21:16 |
IanWizard | I wanna live in AU | 21:17 |
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IanWizard | I'm gonna get a N9, and a WeTab, while I have the address. | 21:17 |
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IanWizard | Have any of you heard of CityOffice? | 21:17 |
IanWizard | (yourcityoffice.xom | 21:17 |
IanWizard | *.com) | 21:18 |
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IanWizard | I'm a bit wary of a scam. | 21:19 |
Stskeeps | everything is potentially a scam on the net | 21:19 |
IanWizard | It's not the 40EU that I'm worried about, it's the 1200 worth of tech that I'll be sending there :) | 21:20 |
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IanWizard | brb | 21:22 |
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IanWizard | back :D | 21:23 |
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timeless | Stskeeps: latex build deps tend to be for building documentation | 22:06 |
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timeless | javispedro: i'm curious about how firefox failed because of that | 22:07 |
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javispedro | timeless: I was too. For about 2 hours. Then gave up. | 22:09 |
javispedro | timeless: it was MIME related. | 22:09 |
javispedro | actually mimedb | 22:09 |
javispedro | the crash was on gnome-vfs | 22:09 |
timeless | what version of gecko? | 22:09 |
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timeless | we were supposed to totally drop it by ff9 iirc | 22:10 |
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javispedro | timeless: I'm still on 3.6 fwiw. | 22:10 |
timeless | y? | 22:10 |
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javispedro | you should know the matching gecko version by heart! ;P | 22:10 |
timeless | sure, but *why* are you using firefox3.6? | 22:11 |
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javispedro | I have some extensions here I can't be arsed to forward port. | 22:11 |
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jedix | how should I be rebooting meego? | 23:03 |
jedix | reboot as root causes systemd to reprot things as failed | 23:04 |
jedix | <29>systemd[1]: xorg.service: main process exited, code=exited, status=1 | 23:04 |
jedix | etc | 23:04 |
jedix | systemd start reboot.service also causes this | 23:06 |
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ali1234 | jedix: shutdown -r now | 23:13 |
jedix | ali1234: thanks | 23:16 |
ali1234 | might not be any different though | 23:16 |
fiferboy | Do any 1.3 images install and work? | 23:23 |
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jedix | ali1234: i tisn't :( | 23:27 |
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lcuk | lbt, I am going to have a go at actually trying the points required in that document this weekend | 23:30 |
ali1234 | jedix: it's a bug then. but a very minor one that has little chance of being fixed | 23:31 |
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iekku | ali1234, still worth to file a new bug report, if one doesn't exist already | 23:36 |
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Venemo_N950 | hmmm | 23:52 |
pixelgeek1 | hmmm? | 23:52 |
Venemo_N950 | Asus X101 makes me want a netbook for myself | 23:53 |
Venemo_N950 | what the heck is wrong with me? | 23:53 |
pixelgeek1 | They're nice | 23:53 |
pixelgeek1 | low profile | 23:53 |
pixelgeek1 | (Small HD though) | 23:53 |
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Venemo_N950 | it's VERY cheap, has an SSD, and it runs MeeGo | 23:54 |
pixelgeek1 | The ideal thing to keep on the bedside nightstand | 23:54 |
pixelgeek1 | Asus has integrated some nice extras too. | 23:55 |
pixelgeek1 | A music service | 23:55 |
pixelgeek1 | And an App store | 23:55 |
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