IRC log of #meego for Friday, 2011-08-26

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vgradeif anyone sees njozwiak tell him I'm looking for him re ivi ExoPC, we keep missing as he does not stay on for long, thanks00:12
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npmWhy does Intel AppUp treat linux devs as second class citizens? http://appdeveloper.intel.com/en-us/forums/how-can-linux-developers-upload-meego-apps-appup-authorization02:43
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npmhttp://appdeveloper.intel.com/ takes over a minute to respond to buttonclicks02:43
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techbiscuitIt's interesting that they require either of those, silverlight or gears02:43
npmit's not interesting, it's silly.02:43
npmalong with a website that all 2000 like02:43
techbiscuitI suppose that's more of what I was thinking ;) It doesn't seem like either would be necessary to upload a file02:43
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npmit's not. file upload is not rocket science. it's a pain on the server side when everybody's uploading to you, but hey, we're talking intel not a room full of kids and a server02:44
lcukmany a website runs on a homebrew server02:44
lcukand can handle a great amount of traffic!02:45
npmlike http://nielsmayer.com02:45
npm:-)02:45
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npmnow i'm able to upload files, but every time i click "next" it loses information i just added....02:49
npmi was hoping to say "i submitted an app to appup today" but that may not be happening02:49
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techbiscuitWell, hopefully you'll be able to get it sorted out with them. And convince them to remove those requirements!03:00
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ali1234does anyone happen to know if the S^3 source code was ever released by symbian foundation?03:09
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iluminator101has anyone run meego on hp touchpad04:42
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wreai might try running in in a chroot like you can do with ubuntu. Video wont be hw accelerated though.04:45
* KaiRo_new still wants a tablet with a MeeGo installation that can be easily kept updated near to the bleeding edge of development04:47
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maty1206Hi guys,06:04
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maty1206Do you have any new about Wayland on next release 1.3?06:04
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zoujieorghow to set scim as default inputmethod?09:29
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KELVORGGreetings!09:46
Stskeepsgreetings09:46
* npm runs winxp under qemu on desktop so as to upload my meego app to intel appup09:48
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KELVORGadobe flash player freeze MeeGo >.>09:49
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npmupdate to flash 11 and try again09:49
KELVORGwell I just try it live on a acer aspire one09:50
arfollnpm, is this the kind of stuff you mean? https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=openbox.spec&package=openbox&project=home%3Aarfoll%3Autils&srcmd5=f910f10bbf11d7f152e43cb18fd7d3d709:50
npmjust don't go fullscreen and it won't bork the UI09:50
KELVORGexactly, in fullscreen it freeze09:51
KELVORGadobe flash player sucks on linux anyway09:51
npmsux but necessary09:51
KELVORGits like a virus for linux09:51
npmarfoll -- looking09:51
npmthat is indeed the -f syntax, however it is generated by a macro %find_lang %{name}09:52
npmi guess i need a macro "find qml" :-)09:53
npmso i don't know where %find_lang writes, but it's probably in buildroot09:53
techbiscuitexit09:53
arfollyeah obv its' not qml, but just to show the -f syntax with filelist generated earlier works09:53
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arfolland that syntax is generated by the yaml09:53
npmDOH09:54
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npmi thought these were comments # >> files  # << files09:54
npmbut I bet I need to have those in my file to have  it drop the -f files there, right?09:55
npmsmacks head09:55
arfollwell if you have yaml and you have files directly in the spec you need to use that syntax otherwise specify will wipe your list09:55
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arfollif you have a pure spec it doesnt matter09:55
npmit is a pure spec. well not quite pure because it's actually from qtcreator09:56
arfollthen you dont need those markers, thats just where you can put stuff and specify won't touch it09:56
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arfolls/specify/spectacle09:56
npmhmm...09:56
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npmok maybe that was wishful thinking. well i think i'm just going to leave my files as-is and worry about it when it starts getting annoying to hand-modify the spec file...09:57
npmbut thanks for the complete working example09:57
* npm bookmarks09:57
arfollnpm, btw here is a pure spec example : https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=tre.spec&package=tre&project=home%3Aarfoll%3Axbmc-testing&srcmd5=dbdd4cce756a53dd0fddeff3203f68e509:59
arfolli guess i was too lazy to convert that one to yaml...09:59
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npmok back to rockin the IE in my only legal copy of windows under qemu .... so i can access intel to submit my linux application ... the suck...10:02
KELVORGlol10:03
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KELVORGyou have to use windows to submit a linux app? why?10:04
ali1234because intel wants you to become an android app developer, obviously10:04
KELVORGthen why they are promoting meego?10:04
michaelg|nokcross platform development :)10:05
arfollthe tail is doing something different than the head ;-)10:05
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npmhttp://appdeveloper.intel.com/en-us/forums/how-can-linux-developers-upload-meego-apps-appup-authorization10:07
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KELVORGi see...10:09
flailingmonkeyhey guys10:10
flailingmonkeyback to exopc hacking :)10:11
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loft306heh\10:11
flailingmonkeymoved over to my new apartment10:11
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ali1234seriously, how hard is it to make a webpage where you can upload a file?10:14
npmhere's a needed hack: turn the extra LED next to the power led into a disk activity light10:14
ali1234here's an even better idea. stop using webpages for things they are not designed for. allow developers to upload using sftp.10:14
flailingmonkeyi see there are two led's10:14
npmflailingmonkey: and one isn't used10:15
flailingmonkeyi couldn't get them to do anything with /sys/class/leds10:15
npmthe power led flashes on suspend and on poweroff/on10:15
npmprobably via bios10:15
flailingmonkeycorrection: changing the value of the brightness file for any of the ones in /sys/class/leds didn't get anything to happen10:15
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arfollflailingmonkey, hows chrontel going? Sources going to hit home:flailingmonkey:exopc soon?10:17
flailingmonkeyit would be nice if one of them stayed on to indicate power, or a different color, also while charging10:17
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flailingmonkeyarfoll: now that I'm in my new room, I have successfully tested HDMI output from chrontel10:18
* npm installs silverlight into ie in winxp media center so's i can upload files to a linux server10:18
npmin qemu10:18
npm:-)10:18
npmi'm relishing how totally stupid this is....10:18
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ali1234what do you win if you win the contest?10:18
npma one way trip to antartica10:19
flailingmonkeyarfoll: Now i just need to write a daemon script to start/stop the ch7036_monitor10:19
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npmlooks like http://nielsmayer.com/meego/qml/qtzibit-google-maps-streetview.png10:20
arfollflailingmonkey, cool sounds great10:20
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KELVORGnice! a trip to meet the pinguins of linux10:26
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lcuk2do people care what OS/framework/language is used to make their cool applications14:02
lcuk2or that they work well14:03
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KaiRo_Mozillalcuk2: most people don't care, but many in the FLOSS community do14:06
Stskeepsfloss people are typically very opionated:14:07
Stskeeps:P14:07
KaiRo_Mozillatrue14:07
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CosmoHill.o/14:21
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lcuk#Simplicity15:02
the-bosslcuk: Error: "Simplicity" is not a valid command.15:02
lcuk#Simple15:02
the-bosslcuk: Error: "Simple" is not a valid command.15:02
lcuk#Complex15:03
the-bosslcuk: Error: "Complex" is not a valid command.15:03
CosmoHill#dumbdumb15:04
the-bossCosmoHill: Error: "dumbdumb" is not a valid command.15:04
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lcukdoes the boss have any valid commands?15:04
Stskeepsprolly not15:05
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JoshViihi everybody!15:06
lcukthen we should give it some15:06
* lcuk optimist15:06
Stskeepshi JoshVii15:06
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JoshViii'm an italian developer...I read that the new Nokia N9 will be not commercialized in my country15:07
lcukStskeeps, after I have written this governance thingy15:07
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lcukerrr steering group document15:08
JartzaWhat's now in common with Nokia and Apple?15:08
Jartza...no more Jobs!15:08
JoshViino no, my question is not about nokia business strategy15:08
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JoshViimy question is, what terminal i will see in near future with this os?15:09
lcukStskeeps, I will need to find out where active development on the tablet ux is ongoing15:09
lcukis it behind walled garden15:09
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JoshViisome time ago, aava platform seemed to be on this way, but i cant find news about that15:12
lcukStskeeps, do you still have your aava?15:12
Stskeepslcuk: somewhere15:12
CosmoHilllcuk: didn't aava go pop?15:12
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lcukCosmoHill, not sure15:14
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lcukI spoke to someone from them at dublin conf15:14
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lcukand have heard different things but nothing specific15:14
CosmoHillI've seen people trying to see aava domain or something15:15
lcukwazd, how flexible is meecast?15:16
lcukwill it run on the -CE or native meego?15:16
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JoshViimmm, but at this time, what kind of mobile terminal i can choose to build some_meego_thing?15:17
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CosmoHillit's brighter outside now :)15:49
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slainegabrbedd: congratulations15:53
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CosmoHillgabrbedd: son of a bitch it's actually gotten darker15:59
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gabrbeddslaine: thanks, bro!16:03
gabrbeddCosmoHill: mwahahahahahaha!16:03
gabrbeddslaine: I still love meego, though. :-)16:03
slaine;)16:04
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slaineNobody said it was a monogamous relationship.16:04
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Stskeepsgabrbedd: congratulations :) good to see more good guys in TI :)16:07
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gabrbeddStskeeps: thanks!16:07
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Stskeepsnow we can use that remote control chip in your head to get those hardfp SGX drivers :)16:08
gabrbeddhee hee.  No wonder I've had a headache lately...16:09
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npmcan anybody help me with Intel App-Up? -- I cannot submit my apps ( http://appdeveloper.intel.com/en-us/forums/how-can-linux-developers-upload-meego-apps-appup-authorization )19:14
npmaka I have RPMs to submit and the web-interface won't work.19:15
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npmis there a non-web interface?19:15
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lcuknpm, jump on a windows box and upload from there19:16
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* slonopotamus facepalms19:17
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slonopotamusnpm: the funniest thing will be if you cannot upload meego apps from meego.19:20
slaineyou can't rebuild meego rpms from meego, that's not funny19:21
slonopotamusthat's crippled19:22
slainewell, "some" packages19:23
slonopotamus"some"?19:24
slainethey expect to be built in a "clean" environment of the OBS19:24
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slonopotamuswith stuff like /scratchbox/tools/bin/perl? :)19:25
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dm8tbrslaine: for appup? that would be perverted, as they also take closed source in appup and hence people would need to set up their own obs just to submit  to appup19:25
npmlcuk: same problem on windows running in qemu. i installed meego sdk for windows but it doesn't work.... says i need to reinstall19:26
slainedm8tbr: in theory, you should be able to get all the meego source rpms from our meego distro and rebuild them right with different gcc options right there19:26
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dm8tbrI think that's what Stskeepz is sort of doing with his fake obs19:27
slaineI haven't tried recently19:27
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slaineOn Moblin 2.1, 48 packages failed19:28
slaineI did try on MeeGo 1.0 but I can't recall how many failed19:28
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lcuknpm do your apps work on windows too?19:36
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CosmoHillwait, 70% load and it doesn't even play the freaking video, just audio19:47
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CosmoHill(from a video podcat)19:47
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slonopotamus_CosmoHill: why on earth would anyone install it on his computer?19:50
CosmoHillit used to be good19:51
* timoph ponders if humans have changed that much in the last 2000 years. From watching gladitors kill eatch other to watching itunes kill laptops ;)19:51
CosmoHillthen apple stared killing puppies and I don't like it so much19:51
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CosmoHillI smell burning19:52
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meegofreakhi, anyone interested in compiling a qt app as rpm for meego?20:05
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Guest__Hello together! I have an VERY VERY important question.22:26
wmaroneoh?22:28
wmaronethen ask22:28
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Guest__Could you please freenode me?22:28
Guest__COULD YOU PLEASE FREENODE ME?22:31
berndhswouldn't know how22:31
Guest__IT MEANS TO CONNECT MY COMPUTER WITH THE INTERNET!!!22:32
berndhsah22:32
berndhsthen, no I can't do that for you22:32
Guest__Fuck your mother.22:32
RST38hGuest__: Deposit money into your CDROM tray22:32
maligorI wouldn't feed the troll22:33
Guest__please freenode me otherwise I fuck you all in the ass.22:34
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maligorhow droll22:35
CosmoHillsomeone's cat is getting killed today22:35
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maligoreven the trolls are quite boring there days22:35
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wmarone:(22:36
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* Clint yawns.22:36
wmaronehis brain has failed him, it seems22:36
CosmoHillhow is everyone?22:36
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maligorBack in the day we had better trolls22:36
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wmaronethis isn't trolling though, it's just a crapflood :(22:37
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CosmoHillit's a very crap flood since we can still talk22:37
* Clint nods.22:37
Clintshameful22:37
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maligorI guess if it annoys anyone enough they could...22:37
maligorprod a freenode admin22:37
* CosmoHill wouldn't mind being an op in here >.>22:38
maligorjust hinting that there's a porn bot on #debian gets a instant K-Line ;P22:39
maligorprobably full of them big freenode operators22:40
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CosmoHillI hang out in one channel on a server and it happens to have like 80% of the admins in22:41
maligorheh22:41
maligoryeah, bad place to behave badly ;P22:42
CosmoHillgood place to ask for a hit tho22:43
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CosmoHillweirdest things I've seen is someone DDOS a channel by making lots of bots join and leave. Caused people's clients to crash22:45
maligorsounds like a closed source client22:46
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CosmoHillI used Xchat Aqua22:50
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maligorjust saw the Gurst__ on another channel with the exact same ... 'message'22:55
maligorerr.. Guest__22:55
CosmoHillmaligor: you mean the one that can be repeated with a cat and a backlit keyboard?22:57
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maligoryes22:57
CosmoHillI'm only in one other channel and I'll ban his arse on sight if he comes in there22:58
maligorcats like backlit keyboards?22:58
CosmoHillI was thinking of one of the colourful ones where the keys change when you press them22:58
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CosmoHillif you see him in another channel report him to freenode23:01
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lmourahow do I add another project as a dependency on OBS? I'm trying to build some packages on my home project and they depend on devel:input_methods Maliit packages23:26
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aukearfoll: ping23:44
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CosmoHillI'm registering on a new website and it already knows my mobile number :/23:47
Venemo_N950CosmoHill, hmm23:49
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CosmoHilland my most recent employer...23:51
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arfollauke: pong23:53
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