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| nasa01 | hi, is lbt around? | 01:47 |
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| CosmoHill | no, are you after an Community OBS account? | 01:49 |
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| Jayro | Hey! I am thinking about using Meego on my netbook. I just have afew questions. Its linux right? what package manager does it use? can you run most linux apps? and what can you do in term of customization? | 01:50 |
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| nasa01 | CosmoHill, no -- I had posted an error message I am getting uploading files on the devel list and he suggested contacting him here. | 01:51 |
| * nasa01 wonders if he could have stated that any worse... | 01:51 | |
| CosmoHill | nasa01: okay, try about 9~10am GMT+1 | 01:51 |
| CosmoHill | Jayro: hi, MeeGo does use the Linux kernel and the command line Package mangager is Zyppper | 01:53 |
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| CosmoHill | There is Core, Netbook, In Vechial something, and handset | 01:53 |
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| Jayro | CosmoHill, so as for linux apps such as thunderbird or command line tools like nmap or vlc. How does it work? | 01:54 |
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| CosmoHill | there are two types of programs, Offical meego ones and ones made by the community | 01:54 |
| CosmoHill | IIRC Meego does not come with VLC and I don't think it uses thunderbird | 01:55 |
| Jayro | CosmoHill, so a program that runs on say.. debian will not run on Meego? | 01:55 |
| CosmoHill | It doesn't use Gnome / Unitly or KDE but it's own MeeGo UI | 01:55 |
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| CosmoHill | no, MeeGo is based on itself | 01:55 |
| CosmoHill | whilst a program from Debian might run on Ubuntu it won't run on Gentoo or Redhat | 01:56 |
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| CosmoHill | (well probably won't) | 01:56 |
| Jayro | CosmoHill, Okay.. so what can be done in terms of custimization? What if i dont like the cuet characters and the bright colors? | 01:56 |
| Jayro | cute* | 01:57 |
| CosmoHill | at the moment I'm not so sure | 01:57 |
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| Jayro | then i shall srick with jolios for the moment :3 | 01:57 |
| CosmoHill | I remember they were discussing ways to separate the branding from the applications to make it easier for vendors to supply their own branding | 01:58 |
| lbt | nasa01: ping | 01:58 |
| berndhs | you can make your own UI, but it's a bit of work | 01:58 |
| nasa01 | lbt: pong | 01:58 |
| * Jayro dosnt like work | 01:58 | |
| Jayro | :) | 01:58 |
| * nasa01 wonders if anyone does | 01:59 | |
| berndhs | the tablet theme has 2004 image files | 01:59 |
| berndhs | approximately :) | 01:59 |
| nasa01 | lbt: I can try an upload anytime you like | 01:59 |
| lbt | OK .. is it reproduceable? | 01:59 |
| nasa01 | yes | 01:59 |
| lbt | ok ... | 02:00 |
| nasa01 | trying now | 02:00 |
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| nasa01 | Error message is displaying now | 02:02 |
| CosmoHill | lbt: oh hey you're up | 02:02 |
| lbt | FFS ... logrotate isn't working ... 1161Mb log file... | 02:03 |
| lbt | maybe I won't load that into emacs... | 02:03 |
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| CosmoHill | cyas | 02:08 |
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| nasa01 | 116M... | 02:12 |
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| Jayro | I REALLY love the meego interface.. but I need to be able to run normal linux apps. Can anyone maybe recomend a similar OS? | 02:13 |
| lbt | no 1161Mb | 02:13 |
| nasa01 | ah... that's a lot | 02:14 |
| lbt | pa-0.9.22-folder-src.patch ? | 02:15 |
| nasa01 | yeah, that's the one | 02:16 |
| lbt | have you got a very slow connection? | 02:18 |
| nasa01 | no | 02:19 |
| nasa01 | I have comcast cable | 02:19 |
| Jayro | no one | 02:20 |
| Jayro | ? | 02:20 |
| lbt | looks like some kind of timeout at 60s | 02:20 |
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| nasa01 | on my end? | 02:21 |
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| lbt | try again | 02:23 |
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| nasa01 | started | 02:24 |
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| lbt | worked? | 02:26 |
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| nasa01 | no | 02:27 |
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| nasa01 | btw: I also tried uploading these files from my office -- with the same results | 02:28 |
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| lbt | one last time... | 02:31 |
| lbt | then I have to go sleep | 02:31 |
| Jayro | Does meego have day to day apps like a mail client, flash support, java support, stuff like that? | 02:31 |
| nasa01 | started now -- and sleep is good | 02:32 |
| nasa01 | still no go | 02:34 |
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| lbt | sorry ... can you upload using osc? | 02:38 |
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| nasa01 | lbt: sure one sec | 02:41 |
| * nasa01 means he can try -- that hasn't been working either | 02:42 | |
| lbt | mmm | 02:42 |
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| lbt | really suggests something your end... | 02:42 |
| nasa01 | why would a text file fail to upload? | 02:43 |
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| lbt | dunno... but it's fairly busy with people uploading code | 02:43 |
| lbt | so it seems to be you having the problem.... :) | 02:44 |
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| lbt | not for sure of course | 02:44 |
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| lbt | email me the file though : david@dgreaves.com ... I'll try it in the morning | 02:44 |
| nasa01 | but it's likely a good guess | 02:44 |
| nasa01 | sure | 02:44 |
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| lbt | gotta go ... eyes closing :) | 02:44 |
| nasa01 | I need to run, so go get some sleep lbt | 02:44 |
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| lbt | BTW ... log a bug too | 02:45 |
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| nasa01 | ok, sure thing | 02:45 |
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| nasa01 | Thanks for the hand | 02:46 |
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| TSCHAKeee | somebody offered to buy my Nokia N950 on Youtube, I told him politely to fuck off. | 03:29 |
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| berndhs | apparently he didn't offer enogh money :) | 03:32 |
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| TSCHAKeee | i wouldn't sell it if i were offered 10 times the price | 03:33 |
| TSCHAKeee | 1. i love the thing | 03:33 |
| TSCHAKeee | 2. it's a dev loaner | 03:33 |
| berndhs | right, wasn't nearly enough | 03:33 |
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| gabrbedd | TSCHAKeee: I'm shocked. Shocked! | 04:05 |
| TSCHAKeee | heheh | 04:05 |
| gabrbedd | You were polite???? | 04:05 |
| TSCHAKeee | not really. | 04:05 |
| gabrbedd | :-) | 04:05 |
| TSCHAKeee | what's an even bigger insult | 04:06 |
| TSCHAKeee | is when they offer $600 | 04:06 |
| TSCHAKeee | which doesn't even cover the cost of the unit | 04:06 |
| TSCHAKeee | i''m like....really? | 04:06 |
| TSCHAKeee | fucking morons. | 04:06 |
| TSCHAKeee | his name is hho1994... stupid kid. | 04:06 |
| gabrbedd | Nobody has any idea what devices actually cost (or /should/ cost) any more. | 04:07 |
| TSCHAKeee | and even after I explained the whole situation | 04:07 |
| TSCHAKeee | he was like, "i'm sorry, i really want the phone, how about $600?" | 04:07 |
| gabrbedd | hee hee | 04:07 |
| berndhs | if he had offered enough money for a comfortable retirement... | 04:08 |
| TSCHAKeee | i'm like, "you idiot, if I _LOSE_ the device, I'm out almost $900 to Nokia. if I SELL the device, as I said before, I'D BE UP FOR CRIMINAL CHARGES!" | 04:08 |
| TSCHAKeee | "yeah, but.. I really want the phone." | 04:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | *rolls-eyes* | 04:09 |
| gabrbedd | sounds like my kids. | 04:09 |
| berndhs | well there's your retirement home right there | 04:09 |
| gabrbedd | :-/ | 04:09 |
| gabrbedd | but.. but... | 04:09 |
| gabrbedd | I want it! | 04:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | this is what gets me though | 04:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | for the class of users who would want the N9 | 04:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | are the same class who want a keyboard | 04:09 |
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| TSCHAKeee | now me, I don't mind.. the on screen keyboard on Harmattan works great for me | 04:10 |
| gabrbedd | yep. | 04:10 |
| TSCHAKeee | but i'm hearing from more than one person that they consider the lack of a keyboard on the N9 a deal breaker | 04:11 |
| TSCHAKeee | which is unfortunate.. I think it's silly | 04:11 |
| TSCHAKeee | but | 04:11 |
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| TSCHAKeee | meh. | 04:11 |
| TSCHAKeee | not to mention, i had a discussion with a friend who works over at Sony-Ericsson, and he had been given a preliminary price estimate that the N9 will be over $1100 | 04:11 |
| TSCHAKeee | I wanna call bullshit, but he usually is right. | 04:12 |
| TSCHAKeee | and he was in a meeting when the CEO heard that Elop had killed MeeGo and Symbian, to which the CEO replied, "Elop should be hung while being disemboweled." | 04:13 |
| TSCHAKeee | anyway. | 04:13 |
| gabrbedd | Did he throw a chair? | 04:14 |
| TSCHAKeee | haha | 04:14 |
| TSCHAKeee | no, but i did find the reference to a viking execution reserved for traitors to be a nice touch. | 04:14 |
| berndhs | it isn't obvious that this will work for Elop | 04:14 |
| gabrbedd | yes, that is. | 04:14 |
| gabrbedd | TSCHAKeee: ^^^ (not berndhs) | 04:14 |
| gabrbedd | Reckon $1100 is just an MSRP? I can't imagine carriers paying that. | 04:15 |
| TSCHAKeee | if that is, I'm gonna shit a brick | 04:15 |
| TSCHAKeee | i will pay it, but i will still shit a brick | 04:15 |
| TSCHAKeee | that's how much I love this phone. | 04:15 |
| TSCHAKeee | seriously, i wanna cry | 04:16 |
| TSCHAKeee | everything possible to run the phone into the ground | 04:16 |
| TSCHAKeee | gabrbedd: and you have to understand too, _NOBODY_ carried the N900 over here. | 04:16 |
| TSCHAKeee | NOBODY. | 04:16 |
| TSCHAKeee | (the US) | 04:16 |
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| gabrbedd | yep. think it'll be different with the N9? | 04:17 |
| gabrbedd | Or even the WP7? | 04:17 |
| * gabrbedd didn't mean those as snide questions. | 04:18 | |
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| TSCHAKeee | gabrbedd: i really don't know anymore. | 04:19 |
| TSCHAKeee | I will buy the N9..and after that, i am jumping ship. | 04:19 |
| TSCHAKeee | you know it's bad, when a competing cell phone company's CEO looks over and facepalms. | 04:19 |
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| gabrbedd | Well, I've kept quiet with my N9 opinion... but I won't be getting an N9. It looks awesome and all... but... well... you know. | 04:20 |
| TSCHAKeee | it will be the best phone they've ever done. | 04:20 |
| TSCHAKeee | ever. | 04:20 |
| Jaffa | TSCHAKeee: That's pretty shocking :-) | 04:22 |
| * TSCHAKeee laughs | 04:22 | |
| TSCHAKeee | sarcasm...pretty...thick in here... | 04:22 |
| * Jaffa meant the CEO bit ;-) | 04:22 | |
| gabrbedd | Sometimes, though, I'm nearly overwhelmed with the urge to support our MeeGo and Qt friends in NOK and get their excellent handiwork. | 04:22 |
| gabrbedd | </not-sarcasm> | 04:22 |
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| berndhs | gabrbedd: do you know why mic2 sometimes installs a package you explicitly removed ? | 04:27 |
| gabrbedd | berndhs: if a package is /only/ listed in the pattern, it should be excluded. But if another package has a dep... it's going to be included. | 04:29 |
| berndhs | ah | 04:29 |
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| berndhs | the way I get around if is to make a bogus empty package with teh same name and version 999.999.999 | 04:30 |
| berndhs | feels kinda hokey though | 04:31 |
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| flexgrip | Hello. I just updated my netbook from an ancient version of moblin to meego 1.2 netbook (chrome). But with chrome I am getting nothing but SSL errors wherever I go. I am assuming I am missing some SSL dep? | 04:54 |
| antman8969 | is the clock correct on your netbook? | 04:55 |
| flexgrip | Yes it is | 05:01 |
| flexgrip | I just install openssl-certs and I think it might have worked | 05:01 |
| flexgrip | weird that it wasnt installed by default | 05:01 |
| flexgrip | let me double check | 05:01 |
| flexgrip | Yep... installed openssl-certs and everything is working perfectly. Thats so stange that its not installed by default with a vanilla meego installation. It is a required package for the update manager. When i tried to update meego it told me there was a security certificate error, just like chrome was doing. Now that I have that package installed its working just fine. Submit a bug report? | 05:04 |
| flexgrip | Also, what is the cli package manager for this? Seems like it uses packagekit like fedora but there is no yum. should I install yum or is there something else it is using? I'm only familiar with apt(itude) yum and zypper | 05:05 |
| berndhs | zypper | 05:05 |
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| berndhs | bad space weather http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=37900 | 05:16 |
| flexgrip | In the repos there is chromium 11 and chromium 13. If I make sure the meego integration package for chromium is installed, can i safely upgrade to 13 and still keep all the integration stuff? | 05:20 |
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| Termana | morning | 08:24 |
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| Kiranos | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRtQa9EE0xI | 09:43 |
| Kiranos | new tabco movie | 09:43 |
| Kiranos | used to play lemmings | 09:43 |
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| chouchoune | mmmhhhh, they "reinvented the wheel" ? | 09:50 |
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| Kiranos | guess they mean not to follow the trend but to think which operative system is the best, whatever now tabco uses :) | 09:52 |
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| chouchoune | yep, let's see ... I want to be on 15th August | 09:58 |
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| Vampir3 | hi everybody, why speed of download " Meego for Netbook " is so so low ????? | 12:05 |
| Vampir3 | i download | 12:05 |
| Vampir3 | i download " Meego for Netbook " with 8 KB/S, but in same time i download eveything else with 150 KB/S | 12:06 |
| Vampir3 | anyone can help me? | 12:07 |
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| Vampir3 | no one ??? | 12:08 |
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| Vampir3 | .zZ | 12:11 |
| timoph | have some patience please | 12:11 |
| timoph | where are you downloading it from? | 12:12 |
| timoph | link? | 12:12 |
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| Vampir3 | from this link : http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.2.0/images/meego-netbook-ia32/meego-netbook-ia32-1.2.0.img | 12:13 |
| * timoph tries | 12:13 | |
| timoph | I'm getting ~4.5M/s | 12:14 |
| timoph | so the problem seems to be at your end | 12:14 |
| X-Fade | o to a kernel.org mirror closer to you. | 12:14 |
| X-Fade | *go | 12:15 |
| timoph | yep | 12:15 |
| slaine | I've found that the routing to the kernel.org mirrors are better than getting the image from the meego server, but even still the peering to those isn't great sometimes | 12:15 |
| X-Fade | slaine: Have you looked where repo redirects to :) | 12:15 |
| Vampir3 | oh :( so what can i do? :( | 12:15 |
| slaine | X-Fade: I'm guessing mirrors.kernel.org :) | 12:16 |
| X-Fade | You don't download from a meego server, you get redirected to a kernel.org mirror by mirrorbrain :) | 12:16 |
| slaine | nod | 12:16 |
| slaine | it's pretty crap most of the time | 12:16 |
| X-Fade | But of course it can be that you get a badly located mirror for your location. | 12:16 |
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| Vampir3 | i'm from iran, is that the reason of my slow speed? | 12:16 |
| slaine | I'm from Ireland and I get slow speeds most of the time, possibly something to do with Ir in the name ;) | 12:17 |
| X-Fade | Vampir3: That can be, check if there is a closer mirror at kernel.org. | 12:17 |
| slaine | ^ | 12:17 |
| timoph | try http://mirrors.kernel.org/meego/releases/1.2.0/images/meego-netbook-ia32/meego-netbook-ia32-1.2.0.img | 12:17 |
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| Vampir3 | timoph: oh dude, superb :) | 12:18 |
| Vampir3 | timoph: your link work great :) | 12:18 |
| timoph | good | 12:19 |
| Vampir3 | thank all of you :) i'm going for download it :) bBye | 12:19 |
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| timoph | np. have fun with MeeGo | 12:20 |
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| slaine | arfoll: Is there a MeeGo TV .ks file as of yet ? | 12:35 |
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| arfoll | slaine, no. CE41xx meego support is still.... pending | 12:35 |
| slaine | arfoll, Yeah, but surely a Pineview type setup would be a good intermediate step ? | 12:36 |
| arfoll | slaine, no GDL on pineview so video playback wont work | 12:36 |
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| arfoll | but sure you can grab the devel:tv:1.2 repo and add that to a meego pineview platform | 12:36 |
| slaine | I'll guess I'll have to make my own from MeeGo Core | 12:36 |
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| arfoll | slaine, if you want media playback on pineview go grab xbmc from home:arfoll:xbmc on c.obs | 12:37 |
| slaine | arfoll: looking at doing my own thing | 12:37 |
| slaine | !xbmc | 12:38 |
| arfoll | kk, well in that case just don't use GDL and all is good ;-) | 12:38 |
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| slaine | Also, not really used obs yet | 12:39 |
| arfoll | ehehe crash course time | 12:39 |
| arfoll | is this IBI? | 12:40 |
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| slaine | no, my port of the EFL based UI I have running on Fedora. | 12:41 |
| arfoll | oh enna? | 12:41 |
| slaine | Initial step is to get that up and running MeeGo | 12:41 |
| slaine | No, my own thin | 12:41 |
| slaine | g | 12:41 |
| arfoll | kk, cool is that FOSS? | 12:41 |
| slaine | No, work related | 12:41 |
| arfoll | :-( | 12:41 |
| slaine | nod | 12:41 |
| arfoll | too bad | 12:41 |
| arfoll | most the EFL libs are allready ported | 12:41 |
| slaine | I'm going to do a QML port in my spare time, which will be OSS | 12:41 |
| slaine | First step is get a MeeGo instance running of what's there | 12:42 |
| arfoll | i ported efl for enna in home:arfoll:enna and captianigloo has updated pkgs | 12:42 |
| slaine | can then pitch meego as a platform to my CTO | 12:42 |
| arfoll | cool | 12:42 |
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| slaine | arfoll: wow, enna's come a long way from when I last looked at it | 12:43 |
| arfoll | dev seems to haev stalled though | 12:44 |
| slaine | yeah, dates from 2010 being the last update | 12:44 |
| arfoll | mercurial repo shows little activity since i packaged it | 12:45 |
| arfoll | i ported it on the plane rideback from dublin : http://www.madeo.co.uk/?p=687 | 12:45 |
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| slaine | arfoll: yeah, I remember that. He was working on a new STB theme too iirc | 12:54 |
| slaine | must check out the site | 12:54 |
| slaine | I wrote my own one back in 2006/2007 | 12:54 |
| slaine | so it's pretty dated looking now | 12:54 |
| arfoll | there was an STB theme allready it crashed when loading, maybe its fixed | 12:54 |
| * slaine shrugs | 12:54 | |
| arfoll | gstreamer playback was quite poor so I gave up, although libplayer has had a bit more dev recently | 12:55 |
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| M4rtinK2 | X-Fade: should the Harmattan COBS target behave in the same way as the scratchbox based harmattan SDK ? | 14:06 |
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| M4rtinK2 | because I just build Gobject-Introspection withou any issues in scratchbox but it cant resolve/find Glib in COBS according to the log | 14:07 |
| M4rtinK2 | log: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=gobject-introspection&project=home%3AMartinK%3Aharmattan&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard | 14:07 |
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| slaine | I'm wanting to setup my own internal OBS at work, anyone have the Wiki page details on how to do that ? | 14:40 |
| slaine | Stskeeps: this falls in line with the non-SSSE builds | 14:40 |
| Stskeeps | dominiq made a nice page | 14:42 |
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| Stskeeps | opensuse private instance | 14:43 |
| Stskeeps | google for it | 14:43 |
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| slaine | This one I think, http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_private_instance | 14:45 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 14:50 |
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| slaine | wow, you really need some beefy kit | 14:58 |
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| slaine | hmm, just had a poke around and my core2duo desktop is better than any of the servers I've got spare | 16:29 |
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| lcuk | afternoon folks \o | 17:33 |
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| berndhs | howdy | 17:37 |
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| gabrbedd | mornin, lcuk! | 17:40 |
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| lcuk | hi berndhs gabrbedd | 17:45 |
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| lcuk | I gater moslo is still pending for n950 use | 17:46 |
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| timoph | lcuk: I guess. Otherwise I'd be running CE on n950 now :) | 18:04 |
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| lcuk | me too, happily have it on my n900 and tested fix for 20099 with it | 18:05 |
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| timoph | oh. you got it fixed? | 18:06 |
| lcuk | timoph, on my cobs I downloaded the packages and spec | 18:06 |
| lcuk | and then updated the source files, updated the package version, built, tested and confirmed it working | 18:06 |
| lcuk | bug 20099 latest comment | 18:07 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20099 nor, High, ---, geoff, ASSI, [CE] Calculator crashes after pressing any button and then "." . | 18:07 |
| w00t_ | lcuk: assuming this is a meego-specific package, merge request on gitorious | 18:08 |
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| berndhs | lcuk: I tried it on tablet, seems to work ok | 18:09 |
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| timoph | lcuk: http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-ux/meego-app-calculator | 18:09 |
| lcuk | berndhs, it effected tablet-ux build of n900-ce but not general tablet ux | 18:09 |
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| berndhs | yes that would explain it | 18:09 |
| lcuk | that was why I did not go the gitorious route | 18:10 |
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| timoph | ah | 18:10 |
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| lcuk | w00t_, saesu - would it work on symbian too? | 18:14 |
| w00t_ | yup, the only part that would need figuring out would be zeroconf | 18:15 |
| w00t_ | (which it can do, I just don't know how) | 18:16 |
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| csdb | hi, in obs %{meego_version} is defined as 1.2 while all the other distros seem to only use integer numbers for versions. With integers, you can use the version definition in logical constructs but that doesn't work with a '1.2' definition | 19:11 |
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| csdb | I found out because I tried to add meego to this specfile test: %if 0%{?fedora_version} || 0%{?mandriva_version} | 19:11 |
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| csdb | by changing it to: %if 0%{?fedora_version} || 0%{?mandriva_version} || 0%{?meego_version} | 19:12 |
| csdb | but that fails because meego_version is not an int. I looked around and saw lots of usage of the _version field in %if tests for other distros (e.g. %if 0%{?suse_version} >= 1030) | 19:12 |
| berndhs | that's right | 19:13 |
| csdb | wouldn't it be beneficial to switch meego_version to an int ? | 19:13 |
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| berndhs | probably | 19:15 |
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| berndhs | csdb: you're better off making the spec as distro independent as you can of course, using pkconfig() to find package names for example | 19:20 |
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| csdb | berndhs, agree. But I'm modifying an existing specfile so I'd rather keep my mods to the minimum possible | 19:22 |
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| berndhs | the version=1.2 issue has been know for about a year and a half, chances that they go to integer versions are slim | 19:23 |
| Stskeeps | sounds plausiblle for 1.3 though | 19:23 |
| berndhs | there is also %{vendor} or %{_vendor} (or both) | 19:23 |
| csdb | I just tried %{?meego_version:1} which I'm guessing means pick up the first char of meego_version and it seems to have worked on the test above | 19:24 |
| csdb | I guess as long as meego_version doesn't start with '0' | 19:24 |
| berndhs | basically you want to know if its defined at all, right ? | 19:25 |
| csdb | yup. This did the trick: %if 0%{?fedora_version} || 0%{?mandriva_version} || 0%{?meego_version:1} | 19:25 |
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| csdb | Stskeeps, hi | 19:26 |
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| Stskeeps | lo csdb, good to see you again | 19:28 |
| berndhs | csdb: does that work if its not meego ? | 19:29 |
| csdb | Stskeeps, been out on other projs for a while | 19:30 |
| csdb | berndhs, seems to. It still builds ok against my opensuse repos which I'd expect to fail if it didn't | 19:30 |
| berndhs | good, that's what I was wondering | 19:31 |
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| slaine | DawnFoster: welcome back, again | 19:43 |
| DawnFoster | slaine: thanks! Still trying to dig out of a week's worth of piled up work :) | 19:43 |
| lbt | wb DawnFoster .... :) | 19:43 |
| slaine | Friday's probably the Best day to come back from a vacation | 19:44 |
| timoph | :) | 19:44 |
| DawnFoster | I'm liking the idea of a 1 day work week and then a weekend :) | 19:45 |
| DawnFoster | seems like a good way to ease back in after vacatin | 19:45 |
| slaine | defo | 19:45 |
| lbt | seems like a good way to work - full stop | 19:46 |
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| javispedro | X-Fade: do you think it might be possible that OBS is calling debian/rules with -j / number of jobs set to something higher than 1? | 19:55 |
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| lcuk | lbt, I am reading the postings you have made recently :) | 21:28 |
| lcuk | http://mer-l-in.blogspot.com/2011/08/restructure-meego-by-installments.html | 21:29 |
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| rradi | does anyone know how to get two packages into the meego repo? | 21:33 |
| lcuk | rradi, which repository | 21:34 |
| rradi | specifically fuseiso http://sourceforge.net/projects/fuseiso as well as xorriso http://scdbackup.webframe.org/xorriso_eng.html | 21:34 |
| rradi | main repo for netbooks | 21:34 |
| rradi | both have GPL2 licenses | 21:34 |
| berndhs | rradi: does it have to be in the main repo ? or can you put it in a private repo on repo.pub.meego.com ? | 21:35 |
| rradi | im absolutely new to this (really sorry), so i dont know what are the advantages/disadvantages of main vs private, and i dont know what it takes to create a private repo | 21:35 |
| berndhs | advantage of private is that you do it yourself, so you don't have to wait for anyone | 21:36 |
| berndhs | its still available to the world if they want it | 21:36 |
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| El_Angelo | anyone can help me with problems with connman on another distro? | 21:37 |
| rradi | but then for people to use my application (which needs these packages, which i will put in my private repo)., they have to manually add the repo into their system, right? and that could be painful for users | 21:37 |
| rradi | or could i create within my installer a script that would add the repo silently and transparently? | 21:38 |
| berndhs | the users may have to get your application out of your private repo too | 21:38 |
| gabrbedd | rradi: I'm sure that getting it into the main MeeGo repos will be a hard task. For example... who is going to be mounting on a MeeGo TV set-top box, in a MeeGo-powered car, or on a MeeGo handset? | 21:38 |
| lbt | ah ... hey rradi | 21:39 |
| gabrbedd | s/mounting/mounting an iso image with fuse/ | 21:39 |
| infobot | gabrbedd meant: rradi: I'm sure that getting it into the main MeeGo repos will be a hard task. For example... who is going to be mounting an iso image with fuse on a MeeGo TV set-top box, in a MeeGo-powered car, or on a MeeGo handset? | 21:39 |
| gabrbedd | rradi: However, to get it in you'll need to file a bug at bugs.meego.com. You'll need to convince someone that this is important to MeeGo. | 21:39 |
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| rradi | gabrbedd: yes i see your point, thats why i thought we could get it on at least main "netbook" repo only, or there is no seperation? | 21:40 |
| gabrbedd | rradi: So, creating a private repo using the community OBS or even on your own web server will probably be the easiest way to accomplish it. | 21:40 |
| berndhs | best is probably to do it both ways, file a bug+request, and do it yourself so you know the whole thing works properly | 21:40 |
| gabrbedd | rradi: No, there is no separation. And the "netbook" version of MeeGo is /not/ considered a priority by the MeeGo leaders. | 21:41 |
| rradi | ok, is there documentation on how to create a private repo using the community obs? | 21:42 |
| gabrbedd | rradi: meanwhile, adding it means that the MeeGo project will need to support it... so there needs to be a clear benefit to offset this cost. | 21:42 |
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| ali1234 | oh look, bug 14307 was closed for a stupid reason yet again | 21:43 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14307 nor, Medium, ---, kai.chai, REOP, kernel build with rpmbuild fails during prep | 21:43 |
| rradi | yes, i understood now, thanks for explaining that...indeed then, it seems impossible without private repo | 21:43 |
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| gabrbedd | rradi: In a nutshell... once you get an obs account... you automatically get a private repo. | 21:43 |
| gabrbedd | rradi: after you add a package to your project and build it, the results will be put into your own private repository. | 21:43 |
| rradi | aha...thnks...again sorry for my ignorance...this helps | 21:44 |
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| gabrbedd | rradi: search the wiki for instructions on getting a c.OBS account (if you haven't already). I'm sure it's there somewhere. | 21:44 |
| gabrbedd | rradi: no problem! best of luck to you! | 21:44 |
| rradi | ok, will do..thanks may need to ping you again if i fall into any problems. hope you are ok with that :$ | 21:45 |
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| gabrbedd | rradi: i don't use c.OBS much -- so I won't be a good resource. Someone will be here, though. :-) | 21:46 |
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| lbt | rradi: so yes, the first thing to do is get it published on the community OBS | 21:49 |
| lbt | get a meego.com account, ask me/X-fade to enable it and then upload it | 21:50 |
| lbt | eventually there will be options to go to a master 'apps' repo or a more general 'community distro' type repo | 21:50 |
| lbt | lcuk: good - you like? | 21:52 |
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| lcuk | lbt, yes | 21:59 |
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| lcuk | sensible outlines of things | 21:59 |
| lcuk | as usual from yourself | 21:59 |
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| lcuk | i notice on harmattan there is an eventsview | 22:01 |
| lcuk | if a similar events view were made as a panel for tablet ux | 22:01 |
| lcuk | and used the same dbus api | 22:02 |
| lcuk | then it would allow apps written to be compatible over perhaps n9x0-ce? | 22:02 |
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| lcuk | gabrbedd, I made my first set of .spec files this week! | 22:05 |
| CosmoHill | yay | 22:06 |
| gabrbedd | lcuk: wow! You've been living in DEB land for /that/ long? | 22:06 |
| gabrbedd | lcuk: whaddayathink? | 22:06 |
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| lcuk | gabrbedd, it was not the .spec more the obs learning curve | 22:10 |
| lcuk | I was still happy with "make; sudo make install" | 22:10 |
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| gabrbedd | lcuk: yeah, for development I use PREFIX as a sort of package manager. | 22:14 |
| gabrbedd | lcuk: Install with $ ./configure --prefix=$HOME/prefix-appname && make && make install | 22:15 |
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| gabrbedd | lcuk: Uninstall with $ rm -rf ~/prefix-appname | 22:15 |
| gabrbedd | :-) | 22:15 |
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| lcuk | heh | 22:16 |
| ali1234 | so has everyone read that vision mobile report? | 22:16 |
| gabrbedd | ali1234: no... link? | 22:18 |
| ali1234 | http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2011/07/the-open-governance-index-measuring-openness-from-android-to-webkit/ | 22:19 |
| ali1234 | meego ranks higher than Qt | 22:19 |
| ali1234 | which made me lol | 22:19 |
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| ali1234 | (the full pdf with their metrics is free as well) | 22:21 |
| gabrbedd | Yeah, I think they got that part wrong. But it's a start, | 22:22 |
| gabrbedd | Of something. | 22:22 |
| gabrbedd | I guess. | 22:22 |
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| ali1234 | if you take their ranking to mean "this is how open the project WANTS to be" then it's correct | 22:23 |
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| lcuk | gabrbedd, how do I install the indamixx apps on meego | 22:42 |
| gabrbedd | lcuk: Honestly, you can't. They're stored in a private repo. | 22:46 |
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| gabrbedd | sorry. :-( | 22:46 |
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| lcuk | gabrbedd, that is understandable | 22:48 |
| * lcuk was just wanting to make some music on ideapad | 22:48 | |
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| gabrbedd | lcuk: about 90% of what we were doing was OSS apps, though. The only hard part for those was porting the deps. | 22:49 |
| gabrbedd | lcuk: you running tablet build? or netbook? | 22:49 |
| lcuk | gabrbedd, of course - that is the normal way | 22:49 |
| lcuk | netbook still, when tablet came out I had lots of data on it already | 22:49 |
| lcuk | it has become the house computer running liqbase most of the time | 22:50 |
| gabrbedd | lcuk: Well, I was going to recommend you try Yoshimi (a virtual synth)... but the FLTK menus don't work with the netbook WM. | 22:50 |
| gabrbedd | lcuk: also, Ivory (a virtual midi controller) is my own project, so I could share the code with you. (I haven't released it publicly, yet.) | 22:52 |
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| lcuk | gabrbedd, oo that sounds cool, if you have already published it it would be good to try | 22:57 |
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| gabrbedd | lcuk: only problem... it's no phun without a synth. :-) | 22:58 |
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| lcuk | gabrbedd, bah! | 22:58 |
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| lcuk | gabrbedd, I might have a go at making a multitouch instrument | 22:59 |
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| * lcuk rarely considers music on computers | 22:59 | |
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| gabrbedd | lcuk: Well, Yoshimi is a really sharp instrument. So Ivory + Yoshimi is killer, IMHO. | 23:00 |
| gabrbedd | (Ivory is MT) | 23:00 |
| gabrbedd | lcuk: On the tablet... yoshimi works OK. Just not the netbook. | 23:01 |
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| lcuk | gabrbedd, cool, next time I have tablet ux up I will give you a prod | 23:04 |
| timoph | evening | 23:04 |
| lcuk | hiya timoph \o | 23:04 |
| lcuk | enjoying your friday? | 23:04 |
| timoph | o/ | 23:04 |
| timoph | I am | 23:05 |
| lcuk | are you at ASM? | 23:05 |
| timoph | no | 23:05 |
| timoph | I'm thinking of going tomorrow | 23:05 |
| timoph | been coding a game the whole evening.. | 23:05 |
| lcuk | :D | 23:05 |
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| lcuk | timoph, what kind of game? | 23:06 |
| timoph | accelerometer controlled cycling game :) | 23:06 |
| lcuk | :D | 23:07 |
| lcuk | I am going for a real bike ride on Sunday! | 23:07 |
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| lcuk | around manchester they have a route set aside for cycling only for the day | 23:07 |
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| timoph | basic idea: driving home after a night at the local bar | 23:08 |
| lcuk | according to my mum who did it a couple of years ago, its an awesome sensation | 23:08 |
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| lcuk | timoph, lol | 23:08 |
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| lbt | "4. Community: a community structure that does not discriminate between developers" ... uh huh | 23:08 |
| timoph | trying to steer away from cows and whatever roadblocks | 23:08 |
| lcuk | timoph, lol | 23:09 |
| lcuk | have winter levels too | 23:09 |
| timoph | :) | 23:09 |
| lcuk | where the controls are more slippery on the ice | 23:09 |
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| timoph | no. that's the sequel or winter edition :) | 23:09 |
| lcuk | timoph, I guess this is qgv? or is it in qml | 23:09 |
| timoph | qml + qt c++ | 23:10 |
| lcuk | neat | 23:10 |
| gabrbedd | lcuk: seen this? http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/25/meego-conference-2011-sights-and-sounds-video/ | 23:10 |
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| timoph | lbt: where's that quote from? | 23:11 |
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| lcuk | gabrbedd, no!! | 23:14 |
| * lcuk eats a chicken legend whilst watching video | 23:15 | |
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| lcuk | hm not playing here | 23:18 |
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| gabrbedd | lcuk: the video works for me (if that's any help) | 23:23 |
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| lcuk | gabrbedd, hm viddler won't start playing here | 23:25 |
| lcuk | I will try it again shortly, gotta go feed the baby | 23:25 |
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| * timoph goes to bed | 23:37 | |
| gabrbedd | g'night, timoph! | 23:40 |
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