| vgrade | Reffy hi | 00:00 |
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| Reffy | Hey, what's up? | 00:01 |
| vgrade | last video looking great | 00:01 |
| vgrade | i've kicked spotify into touch due to the rip off pricing so I'm looking forward to giving your stuff a go | 00:02 |
| Reffy | Thanks. I've added a search function now, but haven't had time to make a video. | 00:02 |
| Reffy | I can send you the N950 version if you wish? | 00:03 |
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| Reffy | OBS is not working for me atm | 00:03 |
| Reffy | Some bugs that I have lacked time to conquer too | 00:03 |
| Reffy | Nothing showstopping | 00:04 |
| lcuk | MeeGoExperts, blame Revdkathy | 00:04 |
| vgrade | Reffy, I would like to give it a go, do you have a link? | 00:05 |
| lcuk | she wants to see liqflow on her computer, but is using windows 7 | 00:05 |
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| lcuk | i had to start to remake it in .net | 00:05 |
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| MeeGoExperts | omg | 00:07 |
| MeeGoExperts | RevDKathy | 00:07 |
| MeeGoExperts | I knew she was "Trouble" | 00:07 |
| MeeGoExperts | Hi vgrade / reffy | 00:07 |
| lcuk | MeeGoExperts, I would still like to know how one is meant to develop apps for WP7 | 00:09 |
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| GeneralAntilles | lcuk, wrong channel. | 00:14 |
| lcuk | GeneralAntilles, hence "off topic" | 00:15 |
| GeneralAntilles | lcuk, you want #meego-bar then. | 00:15 |
| lcuk | if chan was moving along I would not post it | 00:15 |
| * lcuk grabs a couple of pints from the #meego-bar and slides one to GeneralAntilles | 00:15 | |
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| Reffy | Sorry about that, guys | 00:23 |
| Reffy | Had to rush out | 00:23 |
| Reffy | Pizza delivery | 00:24 |
| Reffy | Ordered to me, of course | 00:24 |
| Reffy | I'm not a delivery man | 00:24 |
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| Reffy | vgrade - http://t.co/PCiUsTF | 00:25 |
| vgrade | Reffy, cheers mate | 00:25 |
| Reffy | No problem | 00:26 |
| Reffy | If it blows up your device, I don't think I can be held responsible though | 00:26 |
| Reffy | vgrade, you worked on the Joggler/Vega much lately? | 00:26 |
| Reffy | I've been watching your Tegra 2 MeeGo efforts | 00:26 |
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| Reffy | Pretty impressive | 00:27 |
| vgrade | Reffy, I have too many devices and not enough time | 00:27 |
| vgrade | not done much after getting the talet ux onto Joggler | 00:27 |
| vgrade | Same with vega really. I have a trimslice also vega which is what I'm working on at the moment along with the N950 | 00:28 |
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| vgrade | trimslice work will feed into vega | 00:28 |
| Reffy | Same here. Once I got WeTab OS onto it, I decided to give it a break (which I never got back to). | 00:29 |
| Reffy | Ahhh, good | 00:29 |
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| Reffy | It is but a dream to have fully functional MeeGo on my Vega. It's still pretty fast considering it's only software rendering. | 00:29 |
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| lcuk | vgrade, how do we build a meego image that will grow to support new devices easier than currently. it seems each device needs a new recipe sheet whereas something like the kernel is a book that grows | 00:29 |
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| berndhs | no SRPM for mlite or meego-ux-daemon, bummer | 00:31 |
| vgrade | Reffy, ok its up on my n950. I need to get a server up. thanks | 00:31 |
| Reffy | Ok, the small white rectangle down the bottom right is for initialising search | 00:32 |
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| vgrade | Reffy, just wait until we get tegra gfx drivers | 00:32 |
| Reffy | I forgot to ask my friend to make an icon | 00:32 |
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| vgrade | lcuk, it is easy | 00:33 |
| vgrade | just take your kernel, a ux of your choosing and hack together a ks | 00:34 |
| vgrade | the had parts are the closed bits | 00:34 |
| vgrade | hard | 00:34 |
| lcuk | vgrade, yeah, I tried reading up on what is required for joggler | 00:34 |
| lcuk | since there is one downstairs waiting for software | 00:35 |
| vgrade | its just time for me at the momemt | 00:35 |
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| lcuk | vgrade, not just yourself | 00:37 |
| vgrade | hows the young one? | 00:38 |
| lcuk | amazing :D | 00:38 |
| lcuk | the older ones are great too :D | 00:39 |
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| vgrade | no favorites right, I have two great boys | 00:39 |
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| Reffy | Oh, and vgrade, you probably shouldn't click the Jukebox button | 00:44 |
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| Reffy | I forgot that I began implementing the feature, but forgot to remove the button | 00:45 |
| Reffy | Also linked to the wrong document | 00:45 |
| Reffy | Colossal screw up by me | 00:45 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | Anyone know if there are plans to port tablet UX to new 64-bit tablet from ExoPC folks? http://www.exopc.com/devices/motion-computing-cl900/ | 01:14 |
| Alison_Chaiken | We just need a polished 64-bit, hardfp version of MeeGo 1.3! | 01:14 |
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| rzr | can you help to fix syslinux config ? | 01:16 |
| vgrade | Reffy, no worries, I'll not sue | 01:16 |
| rzr | i just installed latest release and it does not boot, syslinux shows and blinks it fails to boot kernel | 01:17 |
| rzr | boot is on sda5 and root sda6 | 01:17 |
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| npm | any specific ifdefs i can use for disciminating between meego netbook, meego tablet, and harmattan? for harmattan, i've been using (defined(Q_WS_X11) && defined(QT_OPENGL_ES)) but that also is true for meego | 01:19 |
| berndhs | npm: on the target system you can look for /etc/system-release, that tells you what you are running on | 01:21 |
| berndhs | then you can construct your own compiler flag from the results | 01:22 |
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| npm | hi Alison_Chaiken that looks like an interesting device... since it has oaktrail processor, isn't there a specific meego build for it? is that 32 or 64? | 01:23 |
| berndhs | of course that's a really dirty way of doing it :) | 01:23 |
| npm | berndhs: yes that is probably too dirty... as it would take a lot of rejiggering of compilation process | 01:23 |
| berndhs | well you just need to do it before compiling | 01:24 |
| berndhs | grep -i tablet /etc/system-release; if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then MY_TABLET_FLAG=1... | 01:25 |
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| deimos | in harmattan there is not /etc/system-release | 01:26 |
| berndhs | right, so then MY_TABLET_FLAG wouldn't be set | 01:26 |
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| npm | http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=3804 has good suggestions | 01:27 |
| berndhs | which is ok unless there are harmattan tablets at some point | 01:27 |
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| berndhs | doing this sort of thing with #ifdef is dirty anyway, but that's another discussion | 01:28 |
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| npm | i have ifdefs in C which make QML functions return true or false | 01:31 |
| npm | or rather i have C implemented QML functions like isHarmattan isSymbian etc. | 01:31 |
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| npm | alas MEEGO_EDITION = harmattan isn't defined yet but is claimed it will be in final SDK | 01:32 |
| npm | next questions: (1) what's the suggested way to turn off screensaver. for harmattan during movie playback ( http://nielsmayer.com/meego/qml/qmltube_1_0_6_armel.deb currently blanks screen during video playback) | 01:34 |
| npm | (2) what's suggested way of "iconifying" or backgrounding the app from within the application. | 01:34 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | npm, website says new slate is 64-bit. I assume ExoPC folks are working with Intel, but who knows? | 01:39 |
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| auke | Alison_Chaiken: which slate? | 01:44 |
| npm | http://www.exopc.com/devices/motion-computing-cl900/ | 01:45 |
| Alison_Chaiken | auke, 64-bit meego would be a great project for you! | 01:46 |
| CosmoHill | hint hint | 01:46 |
| MohammadAG | <npm> next questions: (1) what's the suggested way to turn off screensaver. for harmattan during movie playback ( http://nielsmayer.com/meego/qml/qmltube_1_0_6_armel.deb currently blanks screen during video playback) | 01:46 |
| MohammadAG | I don't have an N9(50), but do they have games on them? | 01:46 |
| npm | also meego on AMD :-) | 01:46 |
| npm | AMD64 specifically | 01:46 |
| MohammadAG | if so start one, use xprop and tap the game's window, it should have some sort of flag on it | 01:46 |
| MohammadAG | Maemo 5 had HILDON_DO_NOT_DISTURB | 01:47 |
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| Reffy | MohammadAG, I thought you were receiving an N950? | 01:47 |
| Alison_Chaiken | hardfp drivers for SGX540 and Mali. And OpenCL support. And a pony for Christmas. I fear I'm tired. | 01:47 |
| MohammadAG | Reffy, still a new order | 01:47 |
| npm | MohammadAG: good point re using Xprop | 01:47 |
| MohammadAG | for, umm, 15 days | 01:47 |
| npm | yeah i want an equiv of HILDON DO NOT DISTURB | 01:47 |
| Reffy | Damn | 01:48 |
| Reffy | It'll get there eventually | 01:48 |
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| npm | MohammadAG: i don't need a game, i got video playback http://nielsmayer.com/meego/qml/qmltube_1_0_6_armel.deb | 01:48 |
| MohammadAG | Even poked ddp.program at nokia dot com, standard reply | 01:48 |
| SpeedEvil | npm: Do you have any ideas on flapping wing simulation? | 01:48 |
| npm | runs on harmattan as long as you don't select "mobile quality" for playback | 01:48 |
| MohammadAG | npm, but a game probably already does it ;) | 01:48 |
| SpeedEvil | npm: err - ignore me - wrong channel, and wrong xprop | 01:48 |
| MohammadAG | (the non blanking part) | 01:48 |
| npm | Flapping wing simulation? sounds cool | 01:49 |
| MohammadAG | as for question 2, I'd look at headers | 01:49 |
| SpeedEvil | npm: I was thinking of propcalc | 01:49 |
| * SpeedEvil is tire. | 01:49 | |
| MohammadAG | Maemo 5's compositor was open, finding the dbus call to send an app to the background was easy | 01:49 |
| SpeedEvil | d | 01:49 |
| MohammadAG | I'd be amused if QMainWindow::minimize() worked btw | 01:49 |
| npm | MohammadAG: i asked my question after a lot of grepping in /opt/QtSDK/Madde/sysroots/harmattan-meego-arm-sysroot-1122-slim/usr/include | 01:50 |
| MohammadAG | I'd grep in scratchbox | 01:50 |
| npm | which is faster on a 3.4G PhenomII than on the n950 :-) | 01:50 |
| MohammadAG | see meegotouchhome, probably the same implementation | 01:50 |
| * CosmoHill is tired and moody | 01:51 | |
| npm | MohammadAG: maybe i'll try QMainWindow::minimize() :-) | 01:51 |
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| lcuk | CosmoHill, smile, you just passed university | 01:51 |
| CosmoHill | :) | 01:51 |
| CosmoHill | I keep being congratulated by people I've not told | 01:52 |
| lcuk | heh | 01:53 |
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| MohammadAG | congrats CosmoHill ;) | 01:53 |
| CosmoHill | see | 01:53 |
| CosmoHill | thanks MohammadAG :) | 01:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: >send an app to the background < What's that? | 01:55 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, ctrl+bs equivalent | 01:55 |
| MohammadAG | there was a dbus call for it on M5 | 01:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | :nod: | 01:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | being a dbus-msg suggests it's been a call to window manager to set focus to another app (taskswitcher) - I mean at least it wasn't related to the X window of the process | 01:58 |
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| MohammadAG | yeah, it was a call to the compositor | 02:01 |
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| Reffy | npm, I only browsed through the documentation, but would the QmSystem2 library be of help? | 02:04 |
| Reffy | Namely, the QMDisplayState class | 02:05 |
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| Reffy | For the screen off issue | 02:05 |
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| npm | Reffy: good suggestion http://apidocs.meego.com/1.2/qmsystem/classMeeGo_1_1QmDisplayState.html#a69d20231c8f44839cf7ec3c3772c9275 | 02:08 |
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| npm | bool MeeGo::QmDisplayState::setBlankingPause Request not to blank the display. Must be repeated every 60 seconds to renew request. Also prevents suspending. | 02:09 |
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| MaxwellsDemon | ok i just want to be clear, i am getting ready to boot a .img pulled from the site, is it going to just run from usb or do i get to install it to the tablet? | 02:18 |
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| MaxwellsDemon | guess i will find out | 02:22 |
| auke | the bootloader on the image will prompt you to choose install or boot | 02:25 |
| MaxwellsDemon | cool | 02:27 |
| MaxwellsDemon | and yeah | 02:27 |
| MaxwellsDemon | and it doesnt recognise the touchscreen nor digitizer on this tablet | 02:28 |
| MaxwellsDemon | shame | 02:28 |
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| auke | what hardware? | 02:34 |
| auke | file a bug... pls ;) | 02:34 |
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| MaxwellsDemon | auke: asus eee slate (which i realize isnt the target machine for the tablet build) | 02:36 |
| MaxwellsDemon | auke: and i shall do so | 02:36 |
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| auke | it's just very new | 02:41 |
| auke | but | 02:41 |
| auke | in reality, it's not your slate that is the issue | 02:41 |
| auke | it's the touch panel | 02:41 |
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| auke | and the pinetrail tablet version should really work on it. | 02:42 |
| auke | MaxwellsDemon: I'm seeing if we can purchase some here in the office and fix the touch driver problem atm... | 02:42 |
| MaxwellsDemon | it booted to a screen that wouldnt let me interact with it in any way | 02:42 |
| MaxwellsDemon | so i suppose it also might have locked up | 02:42 |
| auke | usb keyboard? | 02:43 |
| MaxwellsDemon | well no, it did respond when i hit the power button to kill it | 02:43 |
| MaxwellsDemon | so it wasnt locked up | 02:43 |
| auke | yeah, you just don't have any input | 02:43 |
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| auke | attach a usb keyboard & mouse :) | 02:43 |
| MaxwellsDemon | i didnt try typing and didnt see a pointer for the mouse i had attached | 02:43 |
| auke | ctrl-alt-f1 and you have a console... | 02:43 |
| MaxwellsDemon | nor did it seem to react when i tried random clicking | 02:44 |
| auke | yeah the cursor is hidden | 02:44 |
| MaxwellsDemon | after trying touch and pen first | 02:44 |
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| Stskeeps | morn | 07:36 |
| sofar | sup | 07:36 |
| Stskeeps | not much, glad it's soon weekend :P | 07:37 |
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| Bostik | morning indeed | 09:00 |
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| vgrade | X-Fade, lbt. I'm still having publishing issues. http://pastebin.com/2QA29u3g | 09:27 |
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| nickzxcv | so I have an lg c2000 with at&t thats been great for many years, and i've been hoping to get a meego phone with lte when thats available from at&t in the next year or so, does anyone know of such a phone? | 10:07 |
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| javier | afk, there's only one meego phone | 10:08 |
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| nickzxcv | the n9? will there be an n9 with lte? | 10:13 |
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| nickzxcv | i hope so | 10:13 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | nickzxcv, there will be no further Nokia MeeGo phones of any kind. | 10:42 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | People are in denial about this fact, encouraged by how nice the N9 is, but nothing has changed with the situation since the Feb announcement. | 10:43 |
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| Stskeeps | and judging how many people are leaving it's probably difficult to ever redecide | 10:44 |
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| nickzxcv | are any other companies likely to make meego phones? | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | yes, probably | 10:46 |
| Alison_Chaiken | MaxwellsDemon, I've had good luck with keyboard/mouse lockup recovery using MagicSysrq key, namely Ctrl-Alt-Sysrq followed by Ctrl-Alt-R. Read Wikipedia article about "Magic Sysrq". Works on MeeGo Tablet 1.2 with ExoPC when frozen. | 10:47 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | I've been working on IVI since I think it's the part with the brightest future. MeeGo could fail on handset and tablet and still be a big success in auto, medical, smartgrid, plug computers, copy machines, fitness devices . . . toasters. | 10:48 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | Hyvää yötä all. | 10:55 |
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| Stskeeps | nite | 10:55 |
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| mcfrisk | to build Intel emgd support package for Meego, install and run Windows binaries, sigh | 10:57 |
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| TheBootroo | what is the window flag to set window auto orientation in qt for n950 ? | 10:59 |
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| timoph | TheBootroo: use the QML Page element. it has orientationLock property | 11:08 |
| timoph | or are you using qwidgets? | 11:08 |
| TheBootroo | timoph: i don't use QML directely, i use qtdeclarative in a declarativeview | 11:09 |
| TheBootroo | and i can't give my window an auto orientation | 11:09 |
| timoph | you might have to implement the orientation changing yourself | 11:09 |
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| TheBootroo | timoph: that's why i ask for the right flag and signal for detection | 11:10 |
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| timoph | afaik it's implemented in meegotouch | 11:10 |
| Beineri | lbt: any estimation when the obs publishing problem will be fixed? | 11:11 |
| timoph | but dunno much else about that. I'm using the qml stuff so I get the automatic orientation free | 11:11 |
| TheBootroo | the old thing that works for symbian and maemo 5 : qApp->desktop(), SIGNAL(resized(int)), and this->setAttribute(Qt::WA_AutoOrientation, true); does no more work | 11:12 |
| TheBootroo | timoph: when i build full qml apps, they doesn't rotate | 11:12 |
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| TheBootroo | only Harmattan Components apps | 11:12 |
| Beineri | broken since 17th July :-( | 11:12 |
| TheBootroo | but i don't want to use them, my apps must work on Symbian3, Maemo5, Harmattan, MeeGo CE, Ubuntu and Win7 | 11:13 |
| timoph | TheBootroo: you're in for some pain | 11:14 |
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| TheBootroo | timoph: i don't matter how much pain i will have, i just wanna know how to get the thing going on | 11:14 |
| TheBootroo | i'm already writing my own Declarative components kit, but the view doesn't rotate on N950 | 11:15 |
| timoph | achipa wrote a good blog post on that matter. Basically do the logic in c++, keep you UI layer very thin and do separate qml UI's for the different targets | 11:15 |
| TheBootroo | timoph: i will not | 11:15 |
| timoph | well don't but don't expect things to work smoothly | 11:15 |
| TheBootroo | timoph: i dont' like the idea of having duplicated ui just written in differents components | 11:15 |
| TheBootroo | timoph: my stuff is smoother than Harmattan Components stuff | 11:16 |
| TheBootroo | and at least i can test the app on every plateforme out there | 11:16 |
| timoph | for example the UI paragdims for win7 and harmattan are completely different. how on earth you expect the same code to work on both | 11:16 |
| TheBootroo | harmattan components apps are not even testable on a desktop OS | 11:16 |
| TheBootroo | timoph: i've some tricks | 11:17 |
| * timoph out. back in 5 | 11:17 | |
| TheBootroo | timoph: and i've created a brand new UI paradigm, resolution scabable, rotation proof, and fully stylable | 11:18 |
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| lbt | Beineri: X-Fade said it was done... will nag him | 11:18 |
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| TheBootroo | so i can adapt on evvery platform, mobile or desktop (basically on desktop it emulates a mobile ux, to allow full speed testing of apps) | 11:18 |
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| RST38h | Not being QML,it will not be very flexible | 11:24 |
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| TheBootroo | RST38h: its Qml, its only not specifical components | 11:25 |
| timoph | TheBootroo: but anyway. if you're not willing to use qml (or meegotouch) you need implement the orientation changing yourself. look up QOrientation in mobility | 11:25 |
| TheBootroo | but qt might have a var containg the screen orientation somewhere, if not how could it rotate Harmattan Components ? | 11:26 |
| RST38h | ah ok | 11:26 |
| timoph | like said the thing is implemented in libmeegotouch (iirc) | 11:26 |
| timoph | not in Qt itself | 11:26 |
| TheBootroo | timoph: unhopefully MTF is deprecated, and QML is far from complete for the use i want, and i don't want to use plateform specific QML packs | 11:27 |
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| timoph | TheBootroo: in that case you "just" need to implement the things you need yourself | 11:27 |
| timoph | simple as that | 11:28 |
| TheBootroo | timoph: i know i have to implement it but how can i get the information i need (orientation) and set the right flag on the window to let the window compositor draw it rotated ? | 11:28 |
| slaine | Isn't that getting someone else to tell you how to implement it ? | 11:29 |
| timoph | like I said look at the orientation stuff in mobility | 11:29 |
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| * slaine has been away for a week a notes this conversation is still going on. | 11:29 | |
| timoph | :D | 11:29 |
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| timoph | slaine: and I bet it's not going away any time soon :/ | 11:30 |
| * slaine drinks nice hot coffee | 11:30 | |
| TheBootroo | slaine: i only to someone that would know the magical bit that gives the desktop orientation, and who knows why the hell the QDesktopWidget::resized() signal is no more emitted on harmattan | 11:30 |
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| tomeu | TheBootroo: I'm arriving late to this discussion, but why don't you just read the sources? | 11:35 |
| TheBootroo | tomeu: because they are huge and i have no idea about where to search for the interesting bits (i've spent some time on the MTF gitorious but not found anything) | 11:36 |
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| tomeu | TheBootroo: I recommend you to spend time developing the skills to read the code of big projects, it's not that hard and will allow you to raise a lot the limits of what you can do | 11:39 |
| tomeu | grep is mostly what you need | 11:39 |
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| tomeu | start grepping by obvious keywords and patiently work your way until you find what you want | 11:40 |
| TheBootroo | tomeu: too bad i'm forced to work on windows at office :-( | 11:40 |
| TheBootroo | so no grep | 11:40 |
| tomeu | there are several implementations of grep that run on windows | 11:40 |
| tomeu | and there must be equivalent tools, cannot believe windows programmers don't have multi-file search tools | 11:41 |
| TheBootroo | ORLY ? | 11:41 |
| tomeu | though that may explain some things :) | 11:41 |
| Ronksu | TheBootroo: MTF gets the physical orientation from contextkit Screen.TopEdge, and combines that with keyboard state and other info to decide on window orientation. QML (at least meego-ux thingies) uses QOrientationSensor to get the same physical orientation info. | 11:42 |
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| TheBootroo | Ronksu: but both contextkit and qorientationsensors are external libs that don't work on desktop os ? | 11:45 |
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| Ronksu | TheBootroo: probably so. | 11:48 |
| Ronksu | or well, don't see why contextkit wouldn't work, but I doubt you find it anywhere on desktop. | 11:48 |
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| TheBootroo | Ronksu: and the QOrientationSensor is part of QtMobility right ? | 11:49 |
| Ronksu | yep. | 11:49 |
| TheBootroo | the problem is that there there is not easy #define that would say IS_MOBILE | 11:49 |
| TheBootroo | i have to do hard tricks to find if we are on Symbian or maemo, but there is no define for meego / harmattan | 11:50 |
| vgrade | mcfrisk, EMGD is part of MeeGo now, you don't need to build it from the window installer | 11:51 |
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| timoph | TheBootroo: http://wiki.meego.com/Porting_Fremantle_Applications_to_Harmattan#Harmattan_scope | 11:51 |
| TheBootroo | timoph: unneed doc that saids : use QML and be happy with it you can no more do anything else | 11:52 |
| TheBootroo | timoph: hum ok | 11:53 |
| timoph | just read it. it tell you how to use defines for harmattan | 11:53 |
| TheBootroo | did not saw the meego edition define | 11:53 |
| TheBootroo | i don't really need to know if this is harmattan or standard meego, but more if this is mobile platform or not | 11:53 |
| mcfrisk | vgrade, emgd is there but kernel module not (fixed that) and the gst-plugins-mixvideo, gst-plugins-va and gst-vabuffer are also not there | 11:54 |
| timoph | TheBootroo: well you need to know what are mobile and what are not somehow.. | 11:55 |
| vgrade | mcfrisk, yes the only kernel to include is the ivi one | 11:55 |
| TheBootroo | timoph: i need to differenciate if the platform is win|linux|osx or symbian|maemo|meego | 11:56 |
| TheBootroo | so if it supports mobility or not | 11:56 |
| timoph | TheBootroo: I understood that | 11:56 |
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| mcfrisk | so ivi kernel already has it? | 11:57 |
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| vgrade | mcfrisk, yup | 11:57 |
| vgrade | kernel-automotive | 11:58 |
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| mcfrisk | ok, does anyone know about the gst stuff then, is it even required? | 11:58 |
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| TheBootroo | timoph: in fact i should only need to detect if QtSensors module is available | 11:59 |
| vgrade | mcfrisk, I'm not familiar | 11:59 |
| Termana | morning | 12:03 |
| mcfrisk | vgrade, thanks. I will have to look into this. Intel support wasn't really helping with meego specifics... | 12:05 |
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| aleksander_m | has anyone tried to get an i386 build of MeeGo? recompiling all source packages for i386 and such | 12:33 |
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| Stskeeps | should be possible with a OBS | 12:33 |
| aleksander_m | Stskeeps, so I'll need a local OBS to try that, then... | 12:34 |
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| Stskeeps | right | 12:36 |
| Stskeeps | too many interdependancies | 12:36 |
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| Stskeeps | i've succesfully made a armv6+vfp build out of a armv7 one | 12:36 |
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| aleksander_m | Stskeeps, so it is not a crazy idea then to try to setup a local OBS as in your 10 easy steps wiki page, and try to build i386 packages... right? something else I should consider before starting that? | 12:39 |
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| Stskeeps | aleksander_m: my page might be out of date, but right | 12:40 |
| Stskeeps | i did it on a crap machine | 12:40 |
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| aleksander_m | Stskeeps, ok, thanks, great :-) | 12:40 |
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| Stskeeps | you'll need at least 40-50gb | 12:41 |
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| arfoll | aleksander_m, i recommend you read the local OBS guide on opensuse - it's tailored for meego and more up to date thant stskeeps page | 12:45 |
| arfoll | using obstag is also much nicer (documenation is on the meego wiki) | 12:46 |
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| bkalinga | i dont find messaging application in MeeGo 1.2 Tablet (QEMU) | 13:11 |
| bkalinga | can some one please tell me its binary name? | 13:11 |
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| bkalinga | is there any messaging application in MeeGo1.2?? | 13:20 |
| lcuk2 | bkalinga, is it peregrine? (I have n900-ce tablet up and that is an icon, not sure if it is in standard | 13:21 |
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| bkalinga | lcuk2: how do i know whether it is peregrine or not..i installed MeeGo1.2 from meego.com..so i guess that should be a pinetrail but not sure | 13:22 |
| lcuk2 | bkalinga, well have a look on the app launcher grid and see | 13:23 |
| bkalinga | i see Email app but messaging is not there, so thought of asking its binary name so that i can search, or may be install using zypper | 13:23 |
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| slaine | bkalinga: you're using the netbook I assume ? | 13:24 |
| slaine | Ah, sorry, Tablet | 13:25 |
| bkalinga | slaine:meego@[meego-tablet-sdk] | 13:25 |
| bkalinga | using it through QEMU no hardware with me | 13:25 |
| slaine | I think it's got a built in Empathy support, like the netbook, but not 100% sure | 13:25 |
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| bkalinga | so can i install the messaging from zypper? | 13:26 |
| slaine | I've not used the tablet at all so I can't say for sure | 13:26 |
| bkalinga | | libdeclarative-messaging | Qt Mobility Messaging QML plugin | package | 13:26 |
| slaine | libsocialweb | 13:26 |
| slaine | and any apps that use it | 13:27 |
| slaine | I'd imagine it's a meego- named package | 13:27 |
| bkalinga | i need messaging: for writing SMS | 13:27 |
| brik_ | I thought it had it built in as well | 13:27 |
| slaine | libsocialweb pulls in telepathy libs amount other things. | 13:27 |
| brik_ | oh | 13:27 |
| slaine | bkalinga: ah | 13:27 |
| slaine | Don't think there's an SMS app on the Tablegt | 13:28 |
| bkalinga | libsocialweb might be for other purpose | 13:28 |
| slaine | it is, twitter, Facebook, MSN etc. | 13:28 |
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| bkalinga | hmm, so no default SMS app for Tablet | 13:28 |
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| bkalinga | may be SMS app is not required for tablet | 13:29 |
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| Robot101 | bkalinga: there's a meego tablet im application | 13:32 |
| bkalinga | Robot101:could you please tell me its name | 13:33 |
| Robot101 | meego-app-im | 13:33 |
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| Robot101 | its not set up for sms, just internet messaging | 13:34 |
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| bkalinga | Robot101: thanks, let me try this out | 13:41 |
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| blubbi | lbt: Hi, I just received a Nokia N950 Dev-Package and would like to access the community OBS | 14:09 |
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| lbt | blubbi: sure ... meego account name? | 14:11 |
| blubbi | lbt: blubbi | 14:12 |
| lbt | done ... have fun :) | 14:12 |
| blubbi | lbt: thx a lot... lets see if i can manage the transition from Maemo to meego :-) | 14:12 |
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| blubbi | By the way, is anyone here with a n950? I am having some trouble to use ssh key authentification for "user" (root with identical .ssh dir works fine) | 14:20 |
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| vignatti | are we using syslog on meego? | 14:38 |
| Stskeeps | think so | 14:43 |
| Stskeeps | or not, hmm | 14:43 |
| sivang | we should be using rsyslog right? | 14:44 |
| sivang | hey Stskeeps | 14:44 |
| Stskeeps | sysklogd in 1.2 and nothing in 1.3 ;) | 14:44 |
| vignatti | zypper at least is doing some log there | 14:44 |
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| Stskeeps | systemd seems to have some syslog stuff | 14:44 |
| dm8tbr | logs, who needs logs anyway! ;) | 14:44 |
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| sivang | dm8tbr: well, if we just use sysklogd then we just log kernel stuff and this daemon if farily lightweight right? | 14:46 |
| Damion3 | it's systemd rather than upstart ? | 14:46 |
| * sivang just realized it'd not be so smart to use rsyslog on an handset target. | 14:46 | |
| sivang | Damion3: yes, there were plans to experiment with upstrat, but I remember someone saying for our use case systemd is better ... Stskeeps ? | 14:47 |
| sivang | Damion3: remember we try to have single core throughout targets. | 14:47 |
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| Damion3 | I thought upstart was what maemo5 fremantle used, and so it would just progress to harmhatton ? | 14:47 |
| Damion3 | harmatton | 14:48 |
| Stskeeps | meego 1.3 has systemd | 14:48 |
| Damion3 | sorry just realised n950 isn't exactly meego, I'm confusing channels | 14:49 |
| blubbi | Damion3: fighting with the same meego <-> maemo conflict :-) | 14:49 |
| sivang | blubbi, Damion3 : Nokia's harmattan is based on meego, not meego compliant | 14:50 |
| sivang | that should solve the confusion. | 14:50 |
| Damion3 | would be a lot easier if they'd just said that the n9 (and n950) were maemo6 with meego compatibiilty | 14:50 |
| sivang | Damion3: but they said that... | 14:50 |
| dm8tbr | Damion3: yes but you can't put that into marketing material... | 14:50 |
| sivang | several times, on several channels | 14:50 |
| javier | hey sivang :) | 14:50 |
| sivang | community channels, that is. | 14:50 |
| sivang | hey javier ! | 14:50 |
| Damion3 | dm8tbr: yeah, acknowledged... | 14:51 |
| sivang | Damion3: if you are a user, you don't care. If you are a developer, that's something else | 14:51 |
| dm8tbr | now with 150% more meego* (can contain traces of maemo6) | 14:51 |
| javier | sivang: are you attending the intel appup event? | 14:51 |
| sivang | javier: I am :) | 14:51 |
| javier | sivang: me too :) | 14:51 |
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| sivang | javier: hopefully this time I will be able to help with answering questions :) | 14:51 |
| javier | excellent ^^ | 14:52 |
| * sivang fell inlove with Ubuntu's unity. | 14:52 | |
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| * javier hasn't tried it | 14:54 | |
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| * lbt wonders if anyone knows what the simplest-to-setup irc server is for an internal deployment (on debian) | 15:15 | |
| dm8tbr | lbt: I'm using hybrid | 15:16 |
| Stskeeps | unrealircd! | 15:16 |
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| Stskeeps | and i bet w00t will say inspircd | 15:16 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:16 |
| * w00t nods sagely | 15:16 | |
| w00t | it even has an up to date debian package, somewhere | 15:16 |
| Stskeeps | we don't have a debian package as i didn't believe in packaging for ircds, heh | 15:16 |
| Stskeeps | i think | 15:16 |
| * dm8tbr somewhere also has his notes on how to rebuild the deb package for ssl support | 15:17 | |
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| dm8tbr | was a one liner | 15:17 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: someone else wrote our packaging for us, all of us hated packaging at the time | 15:18 |
| w00t | :P | 15:18 |
| Stskeeps | w00t: "at the time"? :> | 15:18 |
| w00t | i don't completely detest it now | 15:18 |
| lbt | :) .... it is just to setup internal chat rooms and ircbots for notices | 15:20 |
| lbt | "Carsten Munk has specifically requested that UnrealIRCd not be included in Debian, and will likely be hostile towards it's inclusion." ... | 15:21 |
| * w00t laughs | 15:21 | |
| lbt | he's an angry one ;) | 15:22 |
| gabor | I found some issue on https://build.pub.meego.com/ . I've just compiled my package and if I check the download repository http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/zgyarmati:/meegotouchcp-wallpaper/Project_MTF_DE_Trunk_Testing/ it contains the old packages although the webpage can provide the new ones https://build.pub.meego.com/package/binaries?package=meegotouchcp-wallpaper&project=home%3Azgyarmati%3Ameegotouchcp-wallpaper&repository=Project_MTF_DE_Trun | 15:22 |
| gabor | k_Testing . Any idea? | 15:22 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: oh i should so frame that quote | 15:22 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: there's a story behind it though, it was after my run-in with debian-legal | 15:22 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:22 |
| lbt | I can understand how the one could follow from the other | 15:23 |
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| lbt | ooh ... tircd | 15:33 |
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| lcuk | lbt, meego irc? | 15:54 |
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| lbt | Teleca internal for notifications | 15:55 |
| lcuk | cool | 15:55 |
| lcuk | so similar to #meego-boss style things? | 15:55 |
| lbt | yep | 15:55 |
| lbt | (which is dead ... must fix) | 15:55 |
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| lcuk | lbt are the harmattan builds now working smoother? | 15:57 |
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| lbt | lcuk: I'm not really following them yet | 16:03 |
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| gabrbedd | netbook ux: any way to make it full-screen all apps? | 16:28 |
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| slaine | gabrbedd: I think it's hardcoded not to do that | 16:54 |
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| gabrbedd | slaine: ok, thanks | 16:55 |
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| slaine | as in, it sets windows up to be centered on the zone and utilize most of the screen. On small 1024x600 screens, I tend to full screen everything too | 16:55 |
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| gabrbedd | slaine: how do you full-screen the window? Double-click the title bar? | 16:58 |
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| timeless | so,... | 17:03 |
| timeless | my credit card finally arrived | 17:03 |
| timeless | at 5 minutes to noon (right before the noon checkout deadline) | 17:03 |
| berndhs | timeless: drinks are on you ? | 17:04 |
| timeless | it came with instructions to *immediately* activate the card | 17:04 |
| timeless | by calling a number | 17:04 |
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| timeless | which when called informed me to call back during business hours | 17:04 |
| timeless | i'm in Paris | 17:04 |
| timeless | the card is a Canadian card | 17:04 |
| timeless | whose business hours are thus incompatible with my location... | 17:04 |
| timeless | ... | 17:04 |
| berndhs | there is 2 hour overlap between Paris and Toronto | 17:05 |
| timeless | andre__: i think you're slowly making progress beating QAs into shape | 17:05 |
| timeless | glad to see it | 17:05 |
| timeless | berndhs: yeah but... | 17:06 |
| berndhs | of course the activation could take longer than that :) | 17:06 |
| timeless | what idiot designs a credit card activation system and requires you to activate during business hours? | 17:06 |
| timeless | keep in mind that the card is for business travelers | 17:06 |
| w00t | canadians, apparently | 17:06 |
| * w00t runs | 17:06 | |
| berndhs | canadian banks, more specifically | 17:06 |
| timeless | w00t: and finns | 17:06 |
| timeless | and was requested by a traveler who had lost his card and was traveling and asked for it to be sent to *Paris* (yes, the one in France) | 17:07 |
| andre__ | timeless, think so? I'm still pessimistic. | 17:07 |
| timeless | yeah, my Finnish bank was just as bad | 17:07 |
| timeless | andre__: well, if you beat a qa over the head once | 17:07 |
| andre__ | I see too much shit happening still, combined with silence. | 17:07 |
| timeless | do you need to do it again? | 17:07 |
| timeless | that's the real measure | 17:07 |
| timeless | you need to get someone else to file a second bug of the same kind for the same qa | 17:08 |
| timeless | and see if they do the same things wrong | 17:08 |
| w00t | andre__: it's not just developers who manage to do that, either | 17:08 |
| timeless | if they do, then you've failed | 17:08 |
| w00t | er, QA | 17:08 |
| timeless | andre__: well, put differently, the instructions on the web page seem to work | 17:08 |
| timeless | because they at least seem to manage to file bugs to the right places with most of the right info | 17:08 |
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| timeless | although i'm not certain the last bug i saw included a link to the downstream bug | 17:09 |
| timeless | which would be unfortunate | 17:09 |
| timeless | ok, it didn't | 17:09 |
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| timeless | "we" should fix the instructions to make that clear | 17:09 |
| timeless | sending a patch from the ether instead of pointing to its origin sucks | 17:09 |
| andre__ | as I every day read the new reports: well. could be better. | 17:10 |
| andre__ | don't know if I can see progress or not yet. | 17:10 |
| timeless | http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/UpstreamBugTrackers#Practice will need an extra sentence :( | 17:10 |
| timeless | sorry, i'm trying to enjoy time w/ my cousin | 17:10 |
| timeless | i just caught up w/ him in France | 17:11 |
| timeless | (after getting my credit card and checking out of my hotel) | 17:11 |
| timeless | the hotel service was excellent btw | 17:11 |
| timeless | <http://fr.hotels.com/ho237734/hotel-gabriel-expo-paris-france/> | 17:12 |
| slaine | gabrbedd: the usual f11 key, if the app allows it, but I'm using F15 and gnomeshell mostly these days | 17:12 |
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| gabrbedd | slaine: hmmmm.... i'll try that. | 17:14 |
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| slaine | gabrbedd: of course not all netbooks actually have an F11 key (points at the Dell Mini 9) | 17:14 |
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| gabrbedd | slaine: true. F12 is even more rare. | 17:19 |
| lcuk | f12 is a Fn+f11 key on the ideapad | 17:19 |
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| gabrbedd | slaine: lcuk: I recommended that a colleague buy a USB keyboard... but warned him that "F12 is a very useful thing to have... make sure that it has one." | 17:20 |
| lcuk | lol | 17:20 |
| gabrbedd | I've been encountering laptops and "compact" usb keyboards without F12 | 17:20 |
| gabrbedd | On some machines, you can't change boot order without F12. | 17:21 |
| slaine | There's lots of them. Though, fullscreen is generally F11 on linux ( and lots don't have that too) | 17:21 |
| gabrbedd | slaine: fortunately, the netbook compensates by making the window border zone so small that it's nearly impossible to resize the window with a mouse (much less, your finger). | 17:23 |
| slaine | I've come to the conclusion that netbooks suck the big one | 17:23 |
| gabrbedd | slaine: netbooks, yes. | 17:23 |
| gabrbedd | slaine: but I'm still passionately in love with convertable netbooks. | 17:24 |
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| slaine | as in the idea pad ? | 17:24 |
| gabrbedd | yeah. | 17:24 |
| gabrbedd | And I'd rather have a netbook over a tablet. | 17:24 |
| * gabrbedd 's personal, geeky preference, of course | 17:25 | |
| slaine | I maxed the RAM on that and put a OCZ SSD in there and it's still crap | 17:25 |
| gabrbedd | slaine: ideapad? crappy... how? | 17:25 |
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| gabrbedd | (not picking a fight... just curious to know your opinion) | 17:26 |
| wmarone | I'd like to see a convertible tablet with an AMD E-350 or so in it | 17:26 |
| timeless | slaine: the ideapad we got in dublin works great.. running w7 :) | 17:27 |
| wmarone | better video, better cpu features, higher max ram... | 17:27 |
| slaine | It's slow as hell, the screen height is too shallow and the trackpad is the worst one I've ever used. | 17:27 |
| lcuk | gabrbedd, only minor nit with the ideapad is the hinge is a bit looser than i would like | 17:27 |
| timeless | gabrbedd: i'm actually quite happy w/ my PlayBook :) | 17:27 |
| lcuk | slaine, what software are you running on it | 17:27 |
| * lcuk never notices it slow | 17:27 | |
| slaine | I've tried almost everything | 17:27 |
| slaine | luck, slow from a compiling pov, and SATA1 interface | 17:28 |
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| lcuk | different perspectives then | 17:28 |
| gabrbedd | slaine: FULL ACK on trackpad. Also the digitizer isn't very responsive. | 17:28 |
| lcuk | i find compiling to be instant and wouldn't know what kind of hard drive it had | 17:28 |
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| slaine | yeah, but it's the 600 px heigh screen that kills it the most of me | 17:29 |
| lcuk | oh yeah, trackpad - it should have a trackpoint | 17:29 |
| gabrbedd | slaine: speed seemed (to me) on par with other N450's, though. :-) | 17:29 |
| slaine | for the size of it, it seems like it should have been 1280x800 | 17:29 |
| gabrbedd | lcuk: +1 | 17:29 |
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| gabrbedd | timeless: thanks, I'll check it out. | 17:29 |
| gabrbedd | timeless: hrm? that's a tablet, right? | 17:30 |
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| slaine | gabrbedd: I guess I was expecting it to be a but faster than the N270, it it, but not by a huge margin | 17:31 |
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| slaine | s/a but/a bit/ | 17:31 |
| infobot | slaine meant: gabrbedd: I guess I was expecting it to be a bit faster than the N270, it it, but not by a huge margin | 17:31 |
| timeless | gabrbedd: yep | 17:31 |
| timeless | there's even a FIPS approved model :) | 17:31 |
| timeless | http://blogs.cio.com/mobilewireless/16413/blackberry-playbook-smart-card-reader-get-us-gov-security-cert | 17:32 |
| * timeless thinks the smart card reader is some other product | 17:32 | |
| gabrbedd | timeless: :nod: | 17:32 |
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| deus_ex | I am playing with Meego on hp mini 110-3000, and it works like a charm :) | 19:42 |
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| deus_ex | what is the difference between 1.2.0.90 and 1.2.80 netbook images?1.2.0.* is updated 1.2.0 and 1.2.80 is development build for upcoming 1.3? | 19:45 |
| w00t | deus_ex: yup | 19:45 |
| w00t | well, 1.2.0.90 will become 1.2.1 | 19:45 |
| deus_ex | w00t: thanks, I have been running 1.2.80 from usb stick for some time now, and I like it :) | 19:47 |
| deus_ex | much cleaner and faster than JoliOS that I have on a netbook. | 19:47 |
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| lm | hello there | 20:35 |
| CosmoHill | .o/ | 20:35 |
| * CosmoHill wonders how many sockets Intel currently have | 20:35 | |
| lm | Hi everybody, can anybody help me with a question regarding the meego onscreen keyboard ? | 20:36 |
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| CosmoHill | ask the question and someone will get back to you | 20:37 |
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| CosmoHill | you don't need to ask if you can ask in here | 20:37 |
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| lm | Ok, i try to install Maliit on a intel tablet PC (wetab/exo PC ) using Fedora 15 | 20:38 |
| lm | (gnome3) | 20:38 |
| lm | i did everything the install guide on the maliit page says but i dunno how to use or activate maliit now | 20:38 |
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| andre__ | lm: * As user start meego-im-uiserver in a terminal | 20:46 |
| andre__ | * Run GTK_IM_MODULE=meego-im gedit | 20:46 |
| andre__ | wild guess: click in a field that allows text input? | 20:47 |
| lm | dumb question, how du i "run" the GTK module ? | 20:48 |
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| lm | ok, heres my error: | 20:49 |
| lm | tablet@lm ~]$ meego-im-uiserver | 20:50 |
| lm | Use system compositor | 20:50 |
| lm | Couldn't create D-Bus server: Failed to bind socket "/tmp/meego-im-uiserver/imserver_dbus": Address already in use | 20:50 |
| lm | Aborted (core dumped) | 20:50 |
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| lm | brb, phone | 20:52 |
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| Stskeeps | t | 20:55 |
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| lm | re | 20:56 |
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| vgrade | lbt, X-Fade, https://build.pub.meego.com/package/binary?arch=i586&filename=kernel-adaptation-joggler-2.6.35.10-18.1.i586.rpm&package=kernel-adaptation-joggler&project=home%3Avgrade&repository=MeeGo_Trunk_standard . This and a number of my other packages have not been copied to http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/vgrade/MeeGo_Trunk_standard/ . I want to start building some images from this repo. Do you know when the rsync issu | 21:18 |
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| andre__ | lm: uhm, don't know. Can you ask in #meego-inputmethods please (not sure if somebody is around right now, otherwise try later again)? | 21:46 |
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| lm | andre__ will do, thx. | 21:59 |
| lm | i will be on for quite some time today :) | 22:00 |
| andre__ | lm: it's weekend - monday might be more successful :) | 22:00 |
| lm | ah well i guess ill meet somebody SOMEDAY ;-) | 22:01 |
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| antman8969 | having some trouble using obs..... Can anyone tell me what project provides libqt4-dev? | 22:04 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | Is there a zypper tutorial/ref doc somewhere at meego.com that explains how to find the right repo for updates? I don't want to *read* a tutorial, but find one to link to from a wiki page I'm editing. | 22:28 |
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| ali1234 | Alison_Chaiken: the repo urls are in /etc/zypp/repos.d | 22:29 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | Damn, just got notified about what happened in Oslo. Best wishes to all the Trolls and their families. | 22:30 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Thanks ali1234, I know how to use zypper, but was hoping not to have to write instructions about how to do so myself. Assuredly an aMeeGo has already done so, somewhere? | 22:30 |
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| ali1234 | why? | 22:31 |
| CosmoHill | Alison_Chaiken: what happened in Oslo? | 22:31 |
| Alison_Chaiken | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/jul/22/oslo-explosion-live-coverage | 22:32 |
| ali1234 | what's the wiki page you are editing? | 22:32 |
| Alison_Chaiken | ali1234, http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_IVI_on_ExoPC | 22:32 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | A new one I'm making. | 22:32 |
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| ali1234 | ok i'm reading that page and i'm like "what?" | 22:34 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Bye. | 22:34 |
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| ali1234 | the process outlined by that page isn't even going to be possivle with 1.3, due to the way the installer has been cut back | 22:36 |
| ali1234 | but it seems like an odd way to do it anyway, i mean, why not just install tablet, then install all the packages from the IVI repos into that install? | 22:38 |
| ali1234 | i mean all the miages use the same base files anyway... | 22:38 |
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| maligor | exopc..bah, just ask BMW to send you a target device ;P | 22:57 |
| maligor | or 3 to make sure it's not a problem in the individual hw | 22:59 |
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| thiago | DawnFoster: ping | 23:18 |
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| DawnFoster | hey thiago | 23:18 |
| thiago | hi Dawn | 23:19 |
| thiago | about the LinuxCon Brazil CFP deadline... | 23:19 |
| thiago | today is the deadline for presentations for the MeeGo activities only? | 23:19 |
| thiago | because the LF website says Sept 1st | 23:20 |
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| DawnFoster | oops | 23:20 |
| thiago | http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon-brazil/cfp | 23:20 |
| DawnFoster | in that case, the deadline must be Sept 1 :) | 23:20 |
| DawnFoster | it was originally July 22 | 23:20 |
| DawnFoster | they must have pushed it out & I should have double checked before the reminder | 23:21 |
| thiago | ok, I'm not going crazy then | 23:21 |
| thiago | I do remember seeing it before as July 22 too | 23:21 |
| DawnFoster | no, it looks like I'm the crazy one :) | 23:21 |
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| DawnFoster | thanks for letting me know! | 23:21 |
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| * thiago was poking people to submit when they said "we have until Sept. 1st, why are you in such a hurry?" | 23:23 | |
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| Elleo | is there some way to manually trigger a build on OBS when the automatic stuff isn't working? (it's been over 3 hours since I uploaded some files) | 23:38 |
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| arfoll | Elleo, man osc - theres a trigger command | 23:41 |
| Elleo | ah of course, didn't think of using the command line client | 23:42 |
| Elleo | gotten so used to using the web interface | 23:42 |
| Elleo | thanks | 23:42 |
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| arfoll | np enjoy | 23:43 |
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| CosmoHill | anyone wanna ban jones- or set the mode to +R | 23:55 |
| lcuk | CosmoHill, i can put him on ignore :P | 23:56 |
| jedix | how can I reset my build.meego.com login password? | 23:57 |
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| CosmoHill | jedix: it should be the same password you use on meego.com | 23:57 |
| jedix | I tried to reset it using my meego.com one, but it didn't work | 23:57 |
| jedix | CosmoHill: I reset my meego.com password to try that, but it still says I can't login | 23:58 |
| CosmoHill | you'd need lbt or X-Fade | 23:58 |
| jedix | k, thanks | 23:58 |
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| jedix | I assume everyone is gone for the weekend at this point. | 23:58 |
| CosmoHill | it's 10 and 11pm for them | 23:59 |
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