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Parsleeturn off the tv forever07:16
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hiemanshuMorning everyone07:46
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timophX-Fade: pong08:39
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Alison_ChaikenHey everybody.    How can I stop X from restarting on 1.2?   I'm used to killing gdm to stop X auto-restart, but gdm isn't running.08:49
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Alison_ChaikenLooks like mthemedaemon is starting X, but the process table doesn't show mthemedaemon running either.08:50
Botsikit's probably the uxlaunch which you're after08:53
Botsikthe chain in meego goes something like: runlevel 5 from inittab respawns xinit and start_desktop.pre; the script calls the actual start_desktop, which then runs the actual X session08:55
xtingrayhello, somebody here working with ffmpeg as dependency?08:56
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sofarxtingray: not open source - ffmpeg is not OK09:01
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xtingraysofar: excuse me, what kind of license ffmpeg uses?09:04
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vvaltonedepends on what options it was built with09:07
vvaltoneit's either gpl or lgpl09:07
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xtingrayvvaltone: ok... so if it can be gpl or lgpl... then it is not open source? I don't get the sentence "not open source"09:08
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sofarxtingray: it's not that09:09
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sofarxtingray: it may be gpl or not, that's not the point09:09
sofarmeego.com can not distribute ffmpeg for "no cost" to anyone09:10
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xtingraysofar: why not?09:11
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sofarany MPEG codec requires a license by the MPEG-LA consortium09:11
sofarbefore it can be distributed09:11
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vvaltoneSoftware Patents \o/09:12
xtingraysofar: Did Ubuntu adquire that license? I mean, many linux distros include it... :S09:12
sofarxtingray: they are all required to pay MPEG-LA for each downloaded coded09:12
sofarcodec*09:12
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sofaryou need to ask Ubuntu if they did, obviously, I do not have that knowledge.09:13
xtingrayI guess that a lot of linux distros are out of the law... :S09:14
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sofarit doesn't matter what "others" do09:14
vvaltoneor they might not be doing business in countries with software patents09:14
Robot101they can distribute it for no cost, they just have to pay a per-user fee - google does for chrome for instance09:15
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Robot101or, well, presumably they distribute enough copies that they're on some flat fee billing now09:15
timophX-Fade: I need to go. I'll ping you later09:15
sofarone could ask the linuxfoundation to take out a license for each user.... :)09:16
xtingrayso, what is the best option (api/library/whatever) to deal with video handling from meego?09:16
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vvaltonephonon perhaps?09:17
vvaltoneor gstreamer09:17
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vvaltoneI think the tablet images even had a qml sink for gstreamer09:18
dm8tbrif someone manages to get their hands on gst-plugin-supermegabuttugly then it's their thing :)09:18
Robot101phonon isn't in meego - qt multimedia is - so it depends what you're trying to do09:18
xtingraygstreamer includes some mpeg codec handling?09:18
Bostikthe real problem IMO is that even with gstreamer the moment you want or need a wide array of supported codecs, it's up to pull in gst-ffmpeg09:18
vvaltonextingray, the products that will be released will most likely include that, yes09:19
Robot101device manufacturers are ultimately responsible for providing their products with working & licensed codecs09:19
sofaryou should build and test with ogg/theora video content09:19
sofarthen assume vendors ship MPEG codecs09:19
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xtingraysofar: the problem is exclusive of the mpeg codec? or many codecs are involved on this patent issue?09:20
vvaltoneatleast I can't imagine it being a very good business decisions to leave out the most popular codecs09:20
dm8tbrthis is one of those situations where people have to realize, that meego in itself is not a 'product'09:20
sofaras application developer, you shouldn't worry about the video format09:20
sofarpick one that is really, really free, use that for your testing09:20
sofarthen let the vendors fix the codec support issue09:20
sofarvvaltone: unless you see meego devices being sold without any extra codecs, you're just speculating that09:21
vvaltonewell, yes, anyone likely to know about that is undoubtedly under NDA09:22
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sofargood point :)09:22
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xtingrayI support .ogv... but I do it using ffmpeg... I could make a ogv-only version of my project... but even then, I would need ffmpeg packages for meego... and I guess they never will be official :/09:23
vvaltonehmm, does the meego-tablet-shell in wayland do anything?09:24
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sofarxtingray: can I ask you why your product *needs* a specific format?09:24
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Robot101xtingray: if you use gstreamer to handle video then any codecs installed on the device will be available to you09:24
Robot101as it's modular so you don't need to depend on a specific build for specific codecs - they are loaded as plugins at runtime09:25
Robot101and can be hardware accelerated on certain devices, etc09:25
vvaltoneand cause exciting new bugs due to buggy implementation on others ;P09:25
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Robot101yes - most vendors gstreamer implementations suck. but you can contract collabora to help with that... :)09:26
xtingraysofar: my product doesn't need an specific format... it allows to export to any video format... but it does it using ffmpeg as dependency... that's all09:27
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xtingraysofar: by the way... my product is not a product really... it's a free software project (gpl-v3)09:28
sofarxtingray: you should just use gstreamer to re-encode09:28
sofarthat way you don't depend on the codecs in place09:28
sofargstreamer will tell you what formats are supported09:28
sofaradd codecs and your application will support them right away09:29
xtingraysofar: ok, I will check for the gstreamer api09:29
sofar(if they support encoding)09:29
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xtingrayjust out of curiosity: Why ffmpeg has legal issues... but gstreamer doesn't? what's the difference?09:31
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sofaryou can't remove the mpeg code from ffmpeg, realistically09:31
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sofargstreamer is written without any codecs in the base package09:31
sofarso you can either add mpeg codecs, or skip them09:32
sofarsince ffmpeg is monolithic, no choice09:32
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xtingraysofar: oh! now I got it... (shit!) :(09:33
xtingraysofar: thanks for your help09:33
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JaffaMorning, all10:15
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lbto/10:48
Stskeepsmorn lbt10:48
Stskeepshow's stuff?10:48
lbthey there... wb10:48
lbtvery frantic few weeks... starting to come together10:49
lbtyou?10:49
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Stskeepsglad to be back hacking, but tanned and relaxed after a week at music festival10:50
lbtonly slightly damp at the end!10:50
Stskeepsyeah10:50
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Stskeepsnot as bad as in cph, 150mm in cph, 20mm in festival10:52
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lbtI saw a video... wow10:53
Stskeepsthere were dead rats coming out of toliets, it was that bad :P10:53
lbtewww10:53
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RST38hStskeeps: zombie rats coming out of the toilets? Delicious!10:57
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nidoI've installed MeeGo1.2 "1.2 community summer release" (or something like that) for the N900 and installed it on on my N900. I went to package and pressed 'update cache', now it says "finished", and I have no idea what to do. pressing the screen does nothing, only the power button blanks and de-blanks the screen. The lock is working though, if i wait too long i need to unlock it before I see the 'finished' screen. Any ideas?12:24
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[DarkGUNMAN]hold power button down until it shutsdown12:31
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nido[DarkGUNMAN]: what would be the 'correct' way to update the repositories? this problem is repeats itself every time12:34
[DarkGUNMAN]from terminal get root access - su / meego.12:35
[DarkGUNMAN]type zypper refresh12:35
[DarkGUNMAN]zypper update12:35
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nidothank you12:40
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TheBootroohello12:48
TheBootroodoes the N950 have a Gorilla Glass too ?12:48
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TheBootrooJaffa: you have one isn't it ?12:48
alteregoDoes it matter? It's a developer device12:48
TheBootrooalterego: its to know if it is scratchable so yes it matters12:49
X-FadeIt has glass. That works.12:49
JaffaTheBootroo: I have one. I have no idea if it's Gorilla glass12:49
alteregoHeh12:49
JaffaI'm not going to take a set of keys to it to find out12:49
TheBootrooto know if i must get a case or not12:49
TheBootrooJaffa: lol12:49
alteregoI'd get a case a anyway, if you plan on using it day-to-ay12:49
* X-Fade uses 770 pouch :)12:49
TheBootrooJaffa: and the case is real alu ? so not too scratchable12:49
alteregoOr just be careful with it.12:49
alteregoIt's plastic12:49
alteregoI think the only aluminium is the back.12:50
TheBootrooalterego: plastic ? where?12:50
X-Fadealterego: it is not.12:50
TheBootrooJaffa: ?12:50
alteregoX-Fade: it's all alu?12:50
TheBootrooalterego: i hope12:50
alterego(and panda glass)?12:50
* alterego chuckles12:50
TheBootrooalu = most sexiest phone ever and more robust12:50
JaffaTheBootroo: Painted aluminium => scratches show up very quickly12:51
alteregoScratchable, I'll probably use the 770 sleeve like X-Fade12:51
alteregoJaffa: especially when it's black ;)12:51
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TheBootrooalterego: you just to scratch carefully all the surface12:51
alteregoThe N800 sleeve is somewhat, erm, frayed, and the N810 one is a bit Ghey.12:51
X-Fadealterego: Good thing about that is that it polishes the screen when in your pocket :)12:51
TheBootrooto get the MPB-like grayish alu case12:52
alteregoX-Fade: neat :)12:52
alteregoTheBootroo: not a nice thing to do when you return it to Nokia12:52
TheBootrooalterego: lol yes12:52
alteregoYou have to remember, it's not _yours_ ..12:53
alteregoIt's still Nokia property and they may want it back.12:53
TheBootrooJaffa: on some screenshots of N950, we can see facebook intergration and rss reader, so they are in the devkit ? i want to be sure because some blogs says N950 come with twitter only12:53
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TheBootrooalterego: i would pay 700€ for it without an hesitation12:54
alteregopfft, I wouldn't :D12:54
TheBootrooalterego: my N900 really need to rest in peace12:54
alteregoI'd pay 400 maybe a bit higher.12:54
TheBootrooalterego: and the N9 can't really replace it12:54
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alteregoI'd prefer an N9 to an N95012:55
alteregoAnd keep an N900 as a companion device.12:55
TheBootrooJaffa: some says we get an old version of N9 OS on the N950, but i think its more the current N9 OS + some dev programs no? because on developer.nokia.Ccom we can see an update from 22 june so not that old....12:56
TheBootrooalterego: n9 has nice screen but that's all12:56
TheBootrooN950 design is far better12:56
TheBootrooslider 4 rows QWERTY = inlove12:57
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alteregoMeh12:57
TheBootrooonly thing missing (on both though) = HDMI12:57
alteregoI'd prefer the more up-to-date better supported hardware with more features.12:57
alteregoOver the 4 row keyboard,12:57
JaffaTheBootroo: N950 image on the dev kits is 1.2011.22-6. It has Facebook integration, CalDAV & Mail for Exchange12:57
JaffaTheBootroo: It has no Twitter or Google Talk12:57
alteregoFor "serious" typing I have an external bluetooth keyboard, or the N90012:57
JaffaTheBootroo: See http://wiki.meego.com/Migrating_from_N900_to_N95012:58
TheBootrooalterego: hardware is not that old, and meego unlike android doesn't need 2GHZ dualcore + 2GB ram to run smoothly12:58
azeem_do the N950/N9 have a terminal emulator by default again?12:58
alteregoTheBootroo: I never said it was old, I said the N9 is more up-to-date12:58
alteregoIt'll be better supported12:58
TheBootrooJaffa: for me most important is Google Mail, Calendar and Reader Sync12:58
alteregoAnd it has NFC12:58
X-Fadeazeem_: when you enable the 'developer mode' switch in settings.12:58
azeem_k12:59
TheBootrooalterego: N9 and N950 have same platform12:59
X-Fadeazeem_: it will then install things like terminal and ssh.12:59
TheBootrooonly the case changes12:59
TheBootrooand the screen12:59
azeem_X-Fade: I guess that switch will dissappear in the final N912:59
JaffaTheBootroo: RSS feeds are present. I haven't tested them.12:59
* alterego sighs12:59
X-FadeTheBootroo: And camera, nfc etc etc etc :)12:59
azeem_TheBootroo: and the NFC, and some sensors are less exact, no?12:59
JaffaTheBootroo: Google Mail works well over IMAP, though IMAP IDLE doesn't. Google Calendar works very well, as described in that wiki pag13:00
azeem_still, I'd buy an N950 if I could13:00
alteregoTheBootroo: I want better camera and NFC, I'll keep my N900 for ssh13:00
TheBootrooazeem_: camera is  bigger and better on N950 (only maybe not the software driver)13:00
alteregoI'd prefer an N9 to an N95013:00
X-Fadeazeem_: Don't know, it should not.13:00
alteregoTheBootroo: rubbish13:00
Jaffaazeem_: The image on the N950 doesn't have a "Developer Mode" setting. It has Terminal & Energy Profiler by default.13:00
TheBootrooi don't care about NFC13:00
azeem_I wouldn't like to carry around my N900 just for typing13:00
Jaffaalterego: I'd love it if I could use an N9 with the contactless payments in Boots when I'm buying my lunch13:00
alteregoTheBootroo: well good for you, I don't care what you don't care about ..13:00
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alteregoJaffa: exactly :)13:00
TheBootrooJaffa: i know there is RSS reader but can it sync with Google Reader or will i need to port my own rss reader ?13:01
alteregoI think this year and next year everyone will go NFC13:01
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alteregoWhen Tesco go NFC, I'll be happy.13:01
* alterego can imagine getting reciepts downloaded straight to his phone.13:01
X-FadeIt is funny that NFC is now hot, but it has been here for a looong time :)13:01
alteregoX-Fade: yeah, I know, weird isn't it ..13:01
alteregoI remember hearing about it probably 8 years ago.13:01
slaineWe've been using RFID in our devices here for 8 years or so13:02
alteregoMaybe 6 years ..13:02
JaffaTheBootroo: I haven't seen anything in this image about syncing with Google Reader. No idea if later images do - I suggest you ask a Nokian13:02
Ans5i1geocaching with nfc could be fun13:02
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slaineWhat's the process with Launchpad applications. Seeing as most of the people that I've seen comment have got no acknowledgement reply, do we just wait for Nokia to contact us and sort out shipping or is there some sort of further review process happening after that acceptance ?13:03
TheBootrooslaine: i was wondering the same13:04
alteregoslaine: we're just waiting13:04
TheBootroosince we already ahve been selected and our apps reviewed, will nokie do it again or just send us the device ?13:05
alteregoslaine: they'll process our applications sooner or later, they're probably sifting through thousands of applications.13:05
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TheBootrooand we are not their priority13:05
slainealterego: ego right. All the nokia developer requests are going through the one place, not just the meego ones13:05
alteregoslaine: indeed.13:06
slainedidn't think of that. Ok that's cool, so it is just a case of sit tight and not that I've screwed anything up :)13:06
alteregoslaine: I was hoping we'd get priority, as we, like you said, have already been pre-approved, but if that were the case, I'd expect some news by now.13:06
slaineAlso a holiday weekend in the states. not sure how much impact that would have on the process13:08
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alteregoNone :P13:17
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jotik_work_!cal imbi13:34
jotik_work_sry, vale kanal13:34
jotik_work_(wrong channel)13:34
iekkujotik_work_, estonia?13:35
jotik_work_iekku: yes13:35
iekkujotik_work_, so close to finnish but the meaning bit different :)13:35
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jotik_work_iekku: what does it mean in finnish?13:37
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fatal_vale = lie13:37
jotik_workhehe13:38
fatal_"a lie", to be precise13:38
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jotik_workwell, in estonian "vale" is also "a lie", but it "vale <something>" usually means "wrong <something>"13:39
fatal-"väärä"13:39
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jotik_workestonian also has "väär" with this meaning.13:40
fatal-ok, so same words but the usage has diverged a bit13:41
iekkuit's like "ilma"13:42
iekkuin finnish it's weather, but it's also but in the car's tyres13:43
iekkubut? put13:43
jotik_work"ilm" in estonian is "weather" or ~"world" ("maailm") in english.13:43
jotik_workyet, some words in estonian have very different meaning in finnish, some even profane.13:44
viszhawk13:51
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TheBootroocould people vote for this bug : http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTCOMPONENTS-86414:03
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TheBootrooi'm currently trying the N950 under RDA14:49
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TheBootrooit's slow as hell but however less than under Qemu, and UI is magically beautifull14:50
TheBootrooswipe under the java remote screen is a real pain in the ass14:50
TheBootrooi really miss the N900 maemo 5 home button in UX14:51
TheBootrooi'm going to do a quick and dirty hack to get it back under harmattan14:51
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Parsleeis the n950 keyb clicky or soft?14:52
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TheBootrooParslee: clicky like N90014:52
TheBootroobut keys are chicklet like a MBP14:52
Parsleenice14:52
slainelooking forward to getting mine14:52
ParsleeHow do you know you will get one?14:53
TheBootrooslaine: i'm waiting the shipping info from nokia, my apply was approved by meego comiee14:53
slaineTheBootroo: same here14:53
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slaineParslee: I got an email from Nokia to say my application was approved14:54
TheBootrooParslee: there was the MeeGo Devkit Program : you have a great dev project using Qt, you propose, they review they accept (or not) and you get one of the 250 devices14:54
TheBootrooslaine: i got the email from QGil but not the one from nokia14:54
slainesame14:54
TheBootroonot yet14:54
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TheBootroocan't wait14:55
TheBootroo:D14:55
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TheBootrooJaffa: is accuweahter app present on n950 ?14:56
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TheBootroobest weather app ever14:56
ParsleeI want to find the person who decided to kill the n950 and hurr them14:56
TheBootrooi had an old version on my 5800XM, and NOTHING compared to this on my N90014:57
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TheBootrooParslee: try to start by firing Stephen Flopon its burning plateform14:57
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ParsleeFiring him into the sun maybe14:57
TheBootroono14:58
TheBootrootoo close from us14:58
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TheBootrooand rejections in atmospher could be letal to local fauna and flora...14:58
TheBootroobetter in a very far star, or some vortex14:59
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arfollI just installed OBS on ubuntu 11.04 and I can't get my oscrc file to work, i keep getting 401s. any ideas?15:01
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JaffaTheBootroo: Not in 1.2011.22-6, no15:01
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TheBootrooJaffa: too bad15:01
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TheBootrooJaffa: i hope the access to ovi store will be open on N95015:02
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JaffaTheBootroo: The Store isn't open yet, even on the N9 prototypes15:03
JaffaTheBootroo: apps.meego.com should be ready "soon" though15:03
TheBootroo Jaffa i know15:03
TheBootroothat why i said 'will be'15:03
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nialahello meego15:04
TheBootrooin fact i hope the N950 just don't comme with  some things out of the box but allow to put them on at hands15:05
TheBootrooi hope they will not block voluntary some things15:05
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JaffaI can't imagine why they would15:05
TheBootrooJaffa: o rly ?15:06
TheBootroowith a tyran like S. Flop at the head, every(bad)thing is possible15:06
JaffaS. Flop, the M$ $h1ll?15:07
JaffaI don't think a) that's sensible or b) something he'd be involved in micro-managing.15:08
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JaffaOne doesn't need to make up a silly name for him to realise his strategy is one we disagree with15:08
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* RST38h yawns15:10
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TheBootrooJaffa: he is silly one  so we can be a little silly against him too15:11
TheBootroohe don't make flops15:11
TheBootroohe IS Flop15:11
TheBootrooi think he just has lost his additional bar to the bottom of the E when he jumped out from the burning platform onto an unfinished stone ground....15:12
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TheBootrookinda broken leg15:12
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TheBootroo:X15:12
* RST38h sets an /ignore15:12
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RST38hAs much as a dislike the Elop character...15:13
RST38hs/a/I15:13
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TheBootrooRST38h: what the hell do you make here on meego if you agree his strategy ?15:13
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arfollany help on my osc error? http://pastebin.com/tpCpTtrk15:14
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arfolli can login fine with the same passwd using a browser on api.meego.com15:14
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Murringquim.  Any chance to send out a few hundred more n950s?15:24
TheBootrooMurring: not from MeeGO.com15:25
TheBootrooonly on developer.nokia.com so it don't depends on somebody here15:26
Murringhow about öeego on the new motorola15:26
MurringMeego15:26
MurringNice kbd15:27
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MurringOmap415:28
RST38hPerfect, you do it.15:28
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TheBootroomy father want me to potr meego on the N8, i said him: go better buy a N915:32
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Parsleeneeds a keyboard15:34
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TheBootrooParslee: yes15:39
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TheBootrooParslee: but for some1 who have the N8, the N9 fits perfectly15:39
TheBootroobut for some1 who have a N900 or E7 the N950 is ebtter15:40
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iekkuTheBootroo, sad that N950 isn't going to be on sale15:43
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TheBootrooiekku:  i'm gonna get one15:45
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iekkulucky one!15:45
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bkalingawhen i use sudo mic-chroot  i land in root console and i can run startmeego from there15:47
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bkalingabut when i change the user to 'meego" i can not run startmeego?15:48
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TheBootroobkalinga: startmeego script needs root access15:49
slaineiirc, it switches to the meego user during that process15:49
TheBootroojust like xstart or xinit15:49
slaineat least, that's what uxlaunch used to do15:49
Venemo_N900used to?15:50
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Venemo_N900doesn't it do that anymore?15:50
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bkalingaTheBootroo: But the problem is i want to run im-uiserver from meego console not from root console15:51
TheBootrooVenemo_N900: uxlaunch is no more used i beleive15:51
TheBootroobkalinga: just change user after having startmeego15:51
TheBootroobut im not sure im-server can run in usermode15:52
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reblifeHello, Is there any methods to run IVI 1.2 on Intel N450 devboard?15:53
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reblifeWhen I execute the glxinfo, it prints "Error: enable to open display"15:54
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iekkuTheBootroo, my proposal for n950 was rejected15:58
TheBootrooiekku: sorry15:58
SpeedEviliekku: What was it about? Mine too.15:58
iekkuasked it for n900 ce related work (i'm error manager on the project)15:59
SpeedEvilah - yes.15:59
SpeedEvilMy proposal was similar in that it was not directly n9 app related.15:59
SpeedEvilI think very few got 'platform' devices15:59
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Venemo_N900TheBootroo, what is used instead?16:02
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TheBootrooVenemo_N900: i dunno16:03
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w00tSpeedEvil: yeah, seems that way16:07
* w00t got quite lucky16:07
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Venemo_N900SpeedEvil, it has been said that these are mostly aimed at app devs.16:08
Venemo_N900SpeedEvil, still, I'm sorry for you16:08
SpeedEvilI was going to get my qt and .. up to speed, to try to get apps released too.16:08
SpeedEvilBut - now other things are getting priority unfortunately.16:09
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Parsleehas meego voice recognization?16:12
TheBootrooParslee: it seems the N9 has voice dialing16:13
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lbtthiago: ping16:15
TheBootrooParslee: on this page http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/devices/nokia-n9/specifications   we can see 'voice dialing'16:16
ElleoParslee: there's also the gstreamer pocketsphinx plugins if you want to do your own speech recognition stuff16:16
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Parsleety16:17
TheBootrooJaffa: what comes in the N950 package in terms of accessories and cables ?16:17
ParsleeHow about voice chat ims16:17
ParsleeLike irc16:17
TheBootroodunno16:17
TheBootrooi don't think16:18
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ElleoParslee: I wouldn't hold your breath for any sort of continuous dictation16:18
ParsleeSo you can hands free chat with driends online16:18
JaffaTheBootroo: http://twitpic.com/jaffa216:18
TheBootrooJaffa:  The photo you were looking for no longer exists16:18
TheBootrooJaffa: and my proxy blocks twit*16:19
TheBootrooJaffa: post on hostingpics.net (imgshack blocked too)16:19
JaffaTheBootroo: Well, I'm not reposting the photo I posted last week. But you get a USB cable, an N950 and a quick start guide16:20
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TheBootrooJaffa: pretty few compared to what a N900/N8/N9 comes with16:21
JaffaTheBootroo: Yes, it's a devkit ;-)16:21
TheBootroothat said, n950 has only a USB potr16:21
TheBootrooJaffa: i could ahve thought devs need even more accesories than normal people16:21
thiagolbt: pong16:21
slaineI know Stephen Elop is the "bad guy" around here. But he's performed really well on that All Things D 9 interview that MeeGoExperts has hon his site16:22
slainehttp://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/07/nokia%E2%80%99s-stephen-elop-interviewed-digital-video/16:22
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TheBootroorubbish. period16:23
Parsleety16:23
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ParsleeTtyl!    Get meego on another phone please!16:24
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lbtthiago: msg'ed you16:33
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daltonHi, Im studying embedded linux and want to start with meego + beagle board... Is there some problem with this "pair"? Can anyone tell me some tips where I find good steps to start?18:14
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SpeedEvilYou can't do that.18:15
SpeedEvilBasically would be the first problem.18:15
StskeepsSpeedEvil: well, not entirely true18:15
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Venemo_N900SpeedEvil, why not?18:15
SpeedEvilAt least legally. Maemo is comprised of lots of closed bunaries, which are not licenced to run on non-nokia hardware.18:16
StskeepsSpeedEvil: he said meego18:16
SpeedEvilI read that twice.18:16
SpeedEvilIt said maemo.18:16
SpeedEvilMeh.18:16
SpeedEvilPlease ignore me.18:16
Venemo_N900Stskeeps, umm, who is talking Maemo?18:16
Stskeepsdalton: there is a wiki page on wiki.meego.com regarding beagleboard18:16
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Venemo_N900heh18:16
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Venemo_N900SpeedEvil :P18:16
spenapdalton, http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Meego_on_Beagleboard_from_scratch18:17
spenapbut it tells that it's not working anymore18:17
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daltonthanks for answers, I was already reading that page, but, as spenap told, there tells that its not working and this "Currently, the only exception is the n900, which is supported by nokia with matching closed source drivers. "18:28
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JaffaYay, added Harmattan Community OBS install instructions to http://wiki.meego.com/Getting_started_with_OBS#Into_Harmattan18:33
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dm8tbrJaffa: target available? cool!18:34
w00tJaffa: \o/18:35
Jaffahttp://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=24984#post24984 :-)18:36
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alteregowoo :)18:44
fiferboyJaffa: How did you add the Harmattan repo to your OBS to build for it?18:45
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Jaffafiferboy: Go to your project's Overview. Click Advanced > Raw config and paste in the relevant lines from https://build.pub.meego.com/project/meta?project=home%3Ajaffa18:48
Jaffafiferboy: Once X-Fade's finished it up, it'll be selected like any other repository18:48
dalton#beagleboard18:48
the-bossdalton: Error: "beagleboard" is not a valid command.18:48
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fiferboyJaffa: Sweet, thanks18:51
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fiferboyNow I have to figure out how to add multiple source files for the same package and exclude building from certain repositories18:54
Jaffafiferboy: Basically, it seems that a given package can only contain a single version18:56
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Jaffafiferboy: For Debian that means foo_1.0.0.dsc pointing to one of: foo_1.0.0.tar.gz, foo_1.0.0.orig.tar.gz & foo_1.0.0.diff.gz, foo_1.0.0.orig.tar.gz & foo_1.0.0.debian.tar.gz18:56
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Jaffafiferboy: Annoyingly, incrementing the version becomes a case of 'osc rm'ing the old version and 'osc add'ing the new version.18:57
fiferboyJaffa: I usually use the web interface, but I see the options for that18:58
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twoboxenAnyone received the n9 dev kit yet?19:02
Jaffatwoboxen: A number of people have19:02
twoboxenAnyone in the US?19:02
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JaffaNo idea19:05
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fiferboytwoboxen: Apparently someone in the US just got an email about it, but hasn't received it19:06
twoboxenfiferboy: Interesting... I was in batch one, and I haven't seen any emails back (acknowledgement, shipment, etc)19:07
fiferboytwoboxen: Many others (me included) in the same boat19:08
fiferboyLooks like they are just getting the process rolling, hopefully things speed up tomorrow19:08
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JaffaWoohoo, Attitude just updated over Harmattan COBS repository :-)19:10
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fiferboyJaffa: Nice! Soon you'll get more apps to play with19:11
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twoboxenJaffa: do you find yourself ever using the virtual kbd?  Or are you always sitting with the kbd open?19:11
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Jaffatwoboxen: I try to use it as much as possible, to see if I could cope with an N919:12
fiferboyJaffa: And your verdict?19:12
twoboxenJaffa: yeah, that was basically my question.  When they take the n950s back, I don't know what I will do19:13
Jaffatwoboxen: When doing hacking (e.g. random shell scripts to organise something or generate an m3u playlist) or SSHing, I use the physical kb.19:13
JaffaOtherwise the VKB is alright.19:13
JaffaDefinitely not as good as the iPad because of the small size19:13
fiferboyJaffa: What is the current state of mud2?19:13
twoboxenJaffa: I actually hate the iPad vkbd :)  I have a btkbd for that reason.  I just like emailing on hwkbd... and definitely any vim/ssh/etc19:14
fiferboyIf I have a source archive do I have to prepare it in any way for Harmattan?19:14
Jaffafiferboy: It'll take a qtc_packaging/debian_harmattan and give you three files suitable for uploading to OBS19:14
Jaffafiferboy: It's designed - unlike the first mud - for taking you from SDK -> OBS19:15
JaffaWell, its aim (ATM)19:15
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fiferboyJaffa: So I will have to massage things to some extent to keep Fremantle support?19:15
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Jaffafiferboy: If you're doing Fremantle support from Qt Creator, it will (by the end of this evening) also handle producing files suitable for the maemo.org autobuilder19:16
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Jaffafiferboy: Currently, for Attitude, I'm using the same debian/ files effectively for Harmattan & Fremantle19:17
Jaffafiferboy: So a Fremantle autobuilder upload *should* go straight into the OBS withut problem (modulo build-depends etc)19:17
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fiferboyJaffa: So you are using qtc_packaging for both Harmattan and Fremantle?19:17
fiferboyMy Fremantle packages never used those before19:18
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Jaffafiferboy: Yeah, this version of Attitude is entirely written in Qt Creator, which creates qtc_packaging to contain debian_fremantle and debian_harmattan. But I've got symlinks between most of debian_harmattan to debian_fremantle.19:18
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Stskeepsqtc_packaging?19:19
JaffaStskeeps: It's a directory created by Qt Creator to put all your packaging in.19:19
fiferboyJaffa: Cool.  I am not quite ready for packaging Harmattan yet, but I will be soon19:19
Stskeepsah19:19
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Stskeepsdid you know you can make combined spec and deb in one obs package?19:20
JaffaYes19:20
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JaffaWhich is what mud2 will be doing.19:20
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JaffaAnd, once all the -fu, is setup: MeeGo spec for RPM, Harmattan deb and Fremantle deb :-)19:21
Stskeepscould be nice if qt creator could too19:21
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JaffaStskeeps: Given source output is an afterthought for the Qt & MeeGo SDKs, I wouldn't hold my breath.19:22
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RST38hMoo.19:44
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thpJaffa: so, how do i add harmattan as target to my cobs projects?19:53
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timophX-Fade: ping19:56
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timophthp: go to your home project -> repositories -> add -> advanced -> start typing 'harmattan'19:58
timophthe correct one gets autocompleted19:59
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timophhmmh. something missing there..20:00
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Jaffathp: Copy the Harmattan lines into your own project's Advanced > Raw Config: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/meta?project=home%3Ajaffa20:02
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thpJaffa, timoph: thanks20:15
Jaffatimoph: Ooh, really? Cool.20:15
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timophJaffa: didn't work as expected :/20:16
Jaffatimoph: No, I think you'd have to select armv7el and untick it58620:16
timophah20:16
JaffaBased on what I put in the raw config to get it to work: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=25005#post2500520:17
timophyeah. I added it by 'osc meta -e prj'20:17
hiemanshutimoph: so you are accepted into launchpad as well but no email correct20:17
timophhiemanshu: yep20:17
hiemanshutimoph: so thats 3 of us so far20:18
hiemanshu(from what I know)20:18
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timophI'd guess there's more but those others have more patience :)20:19
iekkutimoph, o/20:20
Jaffatimoph: Let me know your repository when it's up and running. Attitude's development repo is http://repo.pub.meego.com//home:/jaffa/Harmattan20:21
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timophJaffa: ok. I'll try to add debian stuff into mine and see if it works (home:timoph)20:22
timophiekku: o/20:22
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thpX-Fade: Harmattan OBS says "Nothing provides python-feedparser", but it's in the (Nokia) harmattan repos - can you do something about that? :)20:28
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timophoh. it started building. let's see hot it fails :)20:29
timophs/hot/how/20:29
infobottimoph meant: oh. it started building. let's see how it fails :)20:30
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CosmoHillmeltdown?20:31
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timophfailed beautifully - kernel panic in the build machine :)20:49
CosmoHillmy cluster at uni is failing20:49
CosmoHillthe submission date was 25 hours before the start and end date when is failed20:50
CosmoHillwhich in turn was 4 hours in the future20:50
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fiferboyJaffa: Do you remember how you got the toolbar to hide?21:19
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fiferboy"showToolBar: false" on the PageStackWindow doesn't look to work21:20
Jaffafiferboy: Yep, you have two options. 1) Raw QML/Qt, show your app fullscreen. 2) Using Qt Quick Components, show fullscreen and have showToolBar: false in your PageStackWindow21:20
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Jaffafiferboy: You need to be fullscreen21:20
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fiferboyJaffa: Surely that must be an oversight - I want a windowed app and have no use for the toolbar21:21
wazdfiferboy: o/21:21
fiferboyHey wazd21:21
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wazdJaffa: aha, got you. Are you allowed to make screenshots? :P21:22
fiferboywazd: Have you done much QML layout yet?21:22
wazdfiferboy: not quite, but I got used to harmattan UI :)21:22
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Jaffawazd: Don't see why not21:22
fiferboywazd: What do you think of my Harmattan icons on http://andrew.olmsted.ca/meego21:22
Jaffafiferboy: You can showStausBar: true ;-)21:23
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wazdJaffa: can you take a shot of harmattan contacts and mesages please? And mail them to drew.zhilin[at]gmail.com :)21:24
fiferboyJaffa: Ah. So show fullscreen removes the toolbar and statusbar, and then I add statusbar back in?21:24
thpfiferboy: statusbar and toolbare are drawn inside your window all the time21:25
thpfiferboy: they are drawn using some QML elements "around" your UI (page stack window, etc..)21:25
wazdJaffa: I'm working on social networks aggregator UI design and want to make it as native as possible, but I can't find enough shots to work with on the internets :(21:25
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fiferboyJaffa: thp: So how do I make my window fullscreen?21:26
fiferboyDoesn't appear in PageStackWindow or Window21:26
Jaffafiferboy: In main.cpp, viewer.showFullscreeen()21:26
fiferboyJaffa: Thank you!21:27
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wazdfiferboy: looks nice :)21:27
wazdJaffa: http://i011.radikal.ru/1107/3e/9b1af5d87487.png :)21:28
fiferboywazd: You have the same friends as me!21:28
thpfiferboy: showFullscreen()?21:29
thpoh, yeah. what jaffa said. without that extraneous e21:29
fiferboythp: Thanks, I wasn't looking at main.cpp :)21:29
fiferboyI like the "three-e" version best21:29
thpwazd: angelina jolie is online!21:29
wazdfiferboy: :P21:29
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wazdJaffa: oh, I forgot, not contact list but contact details. That would be super-awesome21:32
Jaffawazd: Three screenshots incoming21:32
wazdJaffa: thanks a lot :)21:33
Jaffawazd: ...if I can work out where the screenshot widget has put them21:34
GeneralAntilleswazd, I'm still waiting on a device to get my UI prototypes together. . .21:39
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w00taren't we all21:41
* w00t f5's launchpad url21:41
GeneralAntillesWell, except for two of us.21:41
GeneralAntilles(The bastards.)21:41
w00thaha21:41
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wazdheh :)21:41
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JaffaYup21:41
fiferboyGeneralAntilles: wazd: I'm struggling through with qemu in Linux :(21:42
GeneralAntillesNone of the native applications will open for me in QEMU21:42
GeneralAntillesSo I gave up.21:42
fiferboyGeneralAntilles: You aren't designing the native apps, what do you need them for?21:42
GeneralAntillesTo get a feel for the UI paradigms.21:42
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fiferboyGeneralAntilles: Screenshots21:43
GeneralAntillesNot good enough.21:43
GeneralAntillesand not enough of them.21:43
fiferboyGeneralAntilles: Bug Jaffa for specific ones :)21:43
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Jaffa:-p21:43
GeneralAntillesMeh21:43
fiferboyGeneralAntilles: Get a basic layout and functionality and then optimize when you have your device21:44
GeneralAntillesSort of halfway there, but testing in QEMU makes me want to die.21:44
fiferboyGeneralAntilles: As long as you don't need to actually click on anything, and can wait two minutes for the startup, and can forgive the weird artifacting, you're good21:45
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GeneralAntilles"Qt Quick has been released with Qt 4.7. Companies use it to build user interfaces (UIs) for set-top boxes, tablet devices, in-vehicle infotainment systems, e-readers or mobile phones. Many more companies seriously evaluate Qt Quick. Such an interest is quite amazing for a new and unproven technology, so Qt Quick must have hit a nerve – or actually a couple of nerves."21:47
GeneralAntillesThere's no way that was written by a native speaker.21:47
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fiferboyGeneralAntilles: Probably machine-generated21:49
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wazdCreated with QArticle component :)21:50
berndhsmaybe the nerve it hit was the announcement that there won't be anything else :)21:50
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JaffaRandom QML question - if an element is anchors.fill: parent, is also rotated and a child asks for parent.width - what does it get?21:51
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berndhswhat you *should* get is the parent width, independent on how the child is oriented21:53
wazdJaffa: thanks a lot again21:55
wazdDEVELOPER EDITION21:57
Jaffaberndhs: Is there a way of getting the visible width?21:57
Jaffawazd: :)21:57
GeneralAntillesThe Nokia Developers Library browser is completely messed up in WebKit.21:59
berndhsJaffa: no idea, maybe there is a bounding-box kind of thing somewhere22:00
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Jaffaberndhs: Yeah. I'll start googling22:05
berndhswhat does it mean though for a child to fill the parent, and rotate within it ?22:06
Jaffaberndhs: No idea - what I'm seeing is confusing the hell out of me ;-)22:06
* Jaffa 's code was designed for landscape, but since landscape orientation lock doesn't work in Harmattan's task switcher, I thought I'd be smart and rotate the window 90 def.22:06
JaffaOooh, http://doc.qt.nokia.com/qtmobility/qml-boundingbox.html looks cool for Proximus and geofencing22:07
JaffaBut not too great22:07
berndhsi can see that, but say the rotate is 30 degrees and you want to fill, how would that work22:07
berndhsi suppose for 90 deg, you could just set width=parent.height and height=parent.width22:09
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Jaffaberndhs: Yeah, might be the way to go22:09
berndhskinda pedestrian, but might work22:10
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luistany rsync server for meego 1.2 releases and updates??23:10
Stskeepsrsync.kernel.org23:12
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luistStskeeps: how do i find what i want there -.-23:43
Stskeepswant where?23:43
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luistStskeeps: the specific rsync server i want23:48
Stskeepsrsync://mirrors.kernel.org/mirrors/meego/23:49
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luistStskeeps: rsync://mirrors.kernel.org/meego/releases/1.2 ?23:50
Stskeepsfollows same structure as repo.meego.com23:50
luistStskeeps: ok thanks23:51
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