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| MySpaez | who here used cordia? | 00:01 |
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| gri | MySpaez: the people at #cordia I assume | 00:07 |
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| seif | hey guys | 00:54 |
| seif | where is quim gil | 00:54 |
| seif | ? | 00:54 |
| MySpaez | hi | 00:55 |
| MySpaez | Why seif? | 00:56 |
| sofar | somewhere in scandinavia | 00:56 |
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| seif | MySpaez, i still did not get an answer from Nokia about https://www.developer.nokia.com/Profile/Join_Program.xhtml?programName=Launchpad%20for%20individuals | 00:57 |
| berndhs | seif: that seems to be the normal procedure | 00:57 |
| seif | berndhs, ok and how long does it tkae | 00:58 |
| seif | its been like this for 2 weeks | 00:58 |
| berndhs | i have no idea | 00:58 |
| seif | ok | 00:58 |
| seif | :) | 00:58 |
| seif | i was accepted for the n950 thingie | 00:58 |
| seif | but this is the last thing i am waiting for to go through | 00:58 |
| sofar | send an e-mail... people can be busy | 00:58 |
| berndhs | they haven't even started ignoring me yet | 00:58 |
| MohammadAG | seif, be patient | 00:59 |
| MohammadAG | also, check https://www.developer.nokia.com/Profile/premium_profile.xhtml apparently emails aren't being sent out properly, so see the bottom of that page | 01:00 |
| MySpaez | seif what qualified you for a n950??? | 01:00 |
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| seif | MySpaez, my work on zeitgeist | 01:01 |
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| seif | porting it to Maemo and MeeGo | 01:02 |
| seif | and rewriting my gt kapplicaiton to qt using qt-mobility | 01:02 |
| seif | i dont have a premium profile MohammadAG | 01:02 |
| seif | oh wait | 01:02 |
| seif | i do | 01:02 |
| seif | huh | 01:02 |
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| MohammadAG | seif, obviously you do, you signed up for it in step 4 (iirc) of the email | 01:03 |
| seif | MohammadAG, actually i did not do that | 01:04 |
| seif | i already applied before that | 01:04 |
| MohammadAG | if it says Launchpad program, wait for the email w/ the subject "A Nokia N950 is waiting for you", if not, keep waiting till you're accepted | 01:04 |
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| seif | and what is | 01:05 |
| seif | CONGRATULATIONS! You have been tentatively accepted in the MeeGo community N950 developer device program. | 01:05 |
| seif | We have assumed that you will use this Nokia N950 to | 01:05 |
| seif | ???? | 01:05 |
| MohammadAG | the email I mentioned above | 01:05 |
| MohammadAG | I assume you followed the steps in it, and replied back to it | 01:05 |
| seif | yes i did | 01:05 |
| MohammadAG | then wait for the second email after your launchpad account is accepted | 01:06 |
| seif | ah ok | 01:06 |
| seif | MohammadAG, thanks | 01:06 |
| * w00t shakes a fist at Jaffa and thp again | 01:06 | |
| MohammadAG | hehe | 01:06 |
| MohammadAG | https://forumnokia.secure.force.com/apex/ProductDetailByName?productName=Nokia+N950 should be the URL in the second email | 01:06 |
| MySpaez | interesting project seif | 01:07 |
| MohammadAG | it won't work till you're accepted FYI | 01:07 |
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| seif | MohammadAG, in step 2 i got "You have an existing contact, please disassociate from developer account page before creating a new account." when i clicked on https://www.developer.nokia.com/Profile/premium_registration.xhtml | 01:07 |
| seif | so i skipped it | 01:07 |
| seif | then i went to | 01:07 |
| seif | step 3 | 01:07 |
| seif | https://www.developer.nokia.com/Profile/Join_Program.xhtml?programName=Launchpad%20for%20individuals | 01:07 |
| MySpaez | how much does a dev n950 cost? | 01:07 |
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| seif | where it told me There is an existing membership application already for this program. The applicant will be notified by e-mail once the membership application has been reviewed. | 01:08 |
| SpeedEvil | MySpaez: you can't buy them. | 01:08 |
| MohammadAG | MySpaez, it's a developer device | 01:08 |
| GeneralAntilles | w00t, also: X-Fade and andre__, apparently. | 01:08 |
| MohammadAG | seif, then you have to wait | 01:08 |
| GeneralAntilles | w00t, we'll need to start executing some hit and run raids soon. | 01:08 |
| seif | is it because i created the application before i got the first mail | 01:08 |
| seif | was it wrong or is it ok? | 01:09 |
| seif | MohammadAG, ^ | 01:09 |
| MohammadAG | it's fine | 01:09 |
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| GeneralAntilles | seif, only 4 people actually have devices | 01:09 |
| w00t | GeneralAntilles: dammit | 01:09 |
| w00t | :P | 01:09 |
| GeneralAntilles | and only a few dozen more have LaunchPad accounts confirmed. | 01:10 |
| GeneralAntilles | seif, so, relax. Wait. | 01:10 |
| seif | ah ok | 01:11 |
| seif | cool | 01:11 |
| seif | GeneralAntilles, thanks | 01:11 |
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| w00t | patience makes the world go round, etc | 01:13 |
| dyrvere | and time is money? | 01:13 |
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| berndhs | and you can expect to live about 700,000 hours | 01:14 |
| MySpaez | i have a nice tablet so .. | 01:14 |
| dyrvere | so 80 years, that's way to long :) | 01:14 |
| dyrvere | too* | 01:14 |
| MySpaez | it is very short | 01:15 |
| berndhs | yeah, 80 years is not a lot of time | 01:16 |
| thp | w00t: why so fist-shaking? | 01:17 |
| dyrvere | oh well, they are working on that particular bug anyway so. fingers crossed it happens in your life-time? :D | 01:17 |
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| berndhs | if is doesn't happen in *my* lifetime, you guys are on your own | 01:18 |
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| w00t | thp: there is a lack of n950 in my life *g* | 01:21 |
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| thp | could be worse. | 01:22 |
| berndhs | yeah could be raining | 01:23 |
| dyrvere | could be raining cats. | 01:23 |
| Myrtti | let's not go compete how things could be worse, shall we | 01:24 |
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| Myrtti | it always tends to end up someone depressing the whole channel :-> | 01:24 |
| javispedro | Jaffa, the only one who said that "impatience is one of the virtues of the programmer" is also the one who got his device earlier. | 01:24 |
| javispedro | so, learn the zen from the master. | 01:25 |
| javispedro | ;P | 01:25 |
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| GeneralAntilles | thp, yeah, javispedro could also have one. | 01:29 |
| javispedro | amazon shipped! | 01:29 |
| javispedro | oh wait, wrong channel. | 01:29 |
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| SpeedEvil | Remember - when shipping amazons, put some holes in the top of the box so they can breath in the post. | 01:33 |
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| dyrvere | hm, can I find SDL in meego 1.2? | 01:37 |
| javispedro | dyrvere: harmattan or meego? | 01:37 |
| dyrvere | no idea what harmattan is, but meego 1.2 for netbooks. | 01:38 |
| javispedro | my image of meego 1.2 for netbooks ships with SDL because it includes some SDL game, frozenbubble iirc. | 01:38 |
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| javispedro | so yes. | 01:39 |
| dyrvere | strange, not listed as installed packages in the package manager. | 01:39 |
| javispedro | dyrvere: zypper search SDL-deve | 01:39 |
| javispedro | zypper search SDL-devel | 01:40 |
| dyrvere | thanks I'll try that | 01:40 |
| javispedro | you can try frozen bubble, it should be in the applications list =) | 01:40 |
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| dyrvere | On the other hand, is there a nice game-repository you could recommend? | 01:41 |
| * javispedro is atm testing Palm's Multitouch enabled SDL 1.2 in meego netbooks on the ideapad... | 01:41 | |
| javispedro | dyrvere: no idea about a community one, but you might try intel's www.appup.com | 01:43 |
| javispedro | (no idea if it works for meego already) | 01:43 |
| MySpaez | can it run maemo games? | 01:45 |
| javispedro | meego for netbooks? not without some work.. | 01:47 |
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| * alterego held an N950 today | 02:08 | |
| alterego | woo! | 02:08 |
| alterego | seeeeexty | 02:08 |
| w00t | I take it that means you liked it : p | 02:12 |
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| Termana | morning | 02:28 |
| CosmoHill | bleh | 02:30 |
| Termana | CosmoHill, not such a good one for you? | 02:30 |
| CosmoHill | hayfever sucks | 02:31 |
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| dyrvere | hayfever eh? http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs25/f/2008/158/8/4/Gas_Mask_with_Respirator_Stock_by_XerStock.jpg | 02:39 |
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| TheBootroo | hi ! | 09:43 |
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| TheBootroo | waht do you think about that : http://mynokiablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/updates-600x190.jpg ? | 09:43 |
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| lcuk | TheBootroo, neat | 10:36 |
| lcuk | morning iekku | 10:36 |
| iekku | lcuk, good morning | 10:37 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 11:01 |
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| lcuk | morning Jaffa | 11:33 |
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| lcuk | Jaffa, does attitude have a meego rpm package? | 11:36 |
| lcuk | morning javispedro | 11:37 |
| javispedro | morning | 11:38 |
| lcuk | Stskeeps, the wayland tutorial, http://wiki.meego.com/Wayland_in_MeeGo#Install_from_a_released_MeeGo_image | 11:40 |
| lcuk | should it be using wget or "zypper -ar" ? | 11:40 |
| Stskeeps | lcuk: dunno, didnt write that one - we are working on a cleaned up version | 11:41 |
| lcuk | Stskeeps, do you have a link? | 11:42 |
| Stskeeps | not at hand, at my dads so | 11:43 |
| lcuk | ahh cool, did the n810 build you started ever build fully? | 11:43 |
| Stskeeps | actually yes | 11:44 |
| vvaltone | lcuk, cool, I'll have to try that, was contemplating of writing a tv interface wayland shell, did pop into mind to use meego as the test base | 11:45 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: Not yet; I need to work out how to create one | 11:47 |
| Stskeeps | lcuk: having some fs issues on the machine though | 11:47 |
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| lcuk | Jaffa, was the harmattan package just a tweak with the maemo one? | 11:48 |
| lcuk | or did you use the same one? | 11:48 |
| lcuk | Stskeeps, oh nice | 11:48 |
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| * lcuk spends some time reading http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_an_RPM_package | 11:50 | |
| * Stskeeps glances at omap dss overlays | 11:50 | |
| alterego | Heh | 11:51 |
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| Stskeeps | seems like a cheap way to do basic uis | 11:52 |
| lcuk | what is dss? | 11:52 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/arm/OMAP/DSS | 11:52 |
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| lcuk | ahh display subsystem | 11:53 |
| Stskeeps | it would be a nice way to do compositor, simply overlaying wayland buffers | 11:54 |
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| Jaffa | lcuk: My Qt SDK got Harmattan support and I added it to the project. Having looked at the differences, the debian/ packaging should mostly be compatible between Fremantle & Harmattan | 11:55 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: I don't have a MeeGo SDK on that machine, nor fully worked out how to merge them into a single IDE. | 11:55 |
| lcuk | Jaffa, which IDE do you use? | 11:55 |
| Jaffa | If I did, Qt Creator would help (again), and mud2 would fill in the gaps | 11:55 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: Qt Creator. I'm trying to walk the "proper" path this time. | 11:55 |
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| javispedro | stskeeps: for a few windows only. | 11:57 |
| lcuk | Jaffa, cool, I think you can add the sis packaging and have your attitude on n8 as well? | 11:57 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: true, but for most purposes you just need a status bar | 11:57 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: Yeah, did you see the SIS link? | 11:57 |
| lcuk | no, where? | 11:57 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: Had to use the Remote Compiler, but it works well on N8 and C7 | 11:57 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: for simple task view you can resort to raster composition | 11:57 |
| lcuk | Jaffa, !! great stuff | 11:57 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: http://bleb.org/software/maemo/Attitude_installer_qt-4_7_3_symbian3.sis | 11:58 |
| javispedro | stskeeps: i know I sound repetitive, but you are now describing webos 1 ;) | 11:58 |
| RST38h | eek | 11:58 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: The cross-platformey stuff for non-UX conformant apps is very nice (modulo some rough edges, of course) | 11:58 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: i occasionally wonder if webos has the right idea | 11:58 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:58 |
| javispedro | from what I gather from some source code dumps their original target was sgx-less (maybe mbx though), so they planned accordingly | 11:59 |
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| javispedro | so basically clients render to /dev/fb1 (a dss overlay) or to a shm segment if they receive a unfocus event | 12:01 |
| RST38h | Meego developers' strong desire to keep Meego off platforms that do not have 3D hw is somewhat troubling | 12:01 |
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| Stskeeps | RST38h: supposedly llvmpipe would be compliant | 12:01 |
| Stskeeps | as its about providing the gles/egl api | 12:01 |
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| RST38h | Stskeeps: I.e. it will compile llvm code into native main cpu code? =) | 12:02 |
| Stskeeps | RST38h: as in mesa llvmpipe | 12:02 |
| RST38h | But isn't llvm in gles only limited to GLES2 renderers? | 12:02 |
| vvaltone | doesn't wayland depend on GLES also | 12:02 |
| Stskeeps | vvaltone: technically no, but it does help | 12:02 |
| Stskeeps | RST38h: probably, but gles2 is only thing sane enough to do for :P | 12:03 |
| * javispedro was surprised to find that meegonetbook 1.2 already did gles2 | 12:03 | |
| vvaltone | you mean, technically you can use anything to draw, but practically it might be gles ;P | 12:03 |
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| Stskeeps | javispedro: heh, intel found out their gles2 stack didnt work at all at some point | 12:03 |
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| javispedro | it did render my old "red triangle" demo | 12:03 |
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| RST38h | Stskeeps: I am using GLES1, looks way saner to me =) | 12:04 |
| RST38h | Stskeeps: Ah how sudden and surprising :) | 12:04 |
| vvaltone | javispedro, which graphics chip did it have? powervr or intel?-) | 12:04 |
| javispedro | rst38h: powervr is the last manufacturer that does not entirely do gles1 in sw (or using gles2, slow) | 12:04 |
| javispedro | vvaltone: ideapad, gma 3150 | 12:05 |
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| vvaltone | oh, the S10-3t? | 12:05 |
| RST38h | So, you suggest I drop GLES1 from my Android stuff and move to GLES2? =) | 12:05 |
| javispedro | though, it might have been sw rasterizer for all I know, a single triangle is not much demanding... | 12:05 |
| vvaltone | doesn't android have GLES2 also | 12:06 |
| javispedro | rst38h: if you are using it for rendering, scaling, etc. maybe it does not matter. but test a gles1 game under adreno and cry. | 12:06 |
| javispedro | *rendering 2d | 12:07 |
| vvaltone | yes, those lazy platform developers ;P | 12:07 |
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| RST38h | javispedro: I am currently wondering whether my handcoded ARM scaler is actually better than GLES performance wise | 12:08 |
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| javispedro | it probably is for the usual ratios | 12:09 |
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| ssvb | RST38h: how fast is your scaler? | 12:31 |
| RST38h | Sufficiently fast. | 12:32 |
| ssvb | that's not a good answer :) color format and the number of pixels per second it can handle when doing ~1x scaling is very interesting | 12:32 |
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| ssvb | because this can be directly compared to memcpy throughput | 12:33 |
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| RST38h | Well, I know that 1) it is sufficiently fast for me and 2) it can't really be made much faster using current ARM assembler | 12:33 |
| ssvb | is it bilinear or nearest or something else? | 12:34 |
| vvaltone | ssvb, well, then you can just optimize it to 1x operation and get memcpy performance ;P | 12:34 |
| vvaltone | which wouldn't be useful atall | 12:34 |
| ssvb | vvaltone: not to 1x but to something like 1.01x | 12:34 |
| ssvb | vvaltone: and this obviously can't be replaced by memcpy | 12:35 |
| ssvb | vvaltone: but its performance can be compared to memcpy because the amount of data read/written is almost the same | 12:35 |
| vvaltone | if it's less than 100 pixels, you could replace 1.01x :P | 12:36 |
| vvaltone | or 50 pixels if you care about rounding | 12:37 |
| vvaltone | but, yes, I get the point | 12:37 |
| RST38h | Anyways, when doing scaling with GLES, you still need to copy the bitmap | 12:37 |
| RST38h | When you load it as a texture | 12:37 |
| vvaltone | you mean you'd scale it bigger into memory? | 12:38 |
| ssvb | RST38h: in any case, nearest scaling can use full memory bandwidth, NEON optimized bilinear scaling for 32bpp color format can use more than 60% of memory bandwidth on the device with the fastest memory that I have | 12:38 |
| vvaltone | as opposed to using realtime scaling? | 12:38 |
| RST38h | So, for moderate scaling factors (i.e. <=x2) it may be faster to do it in the CPU | 12:38 |
| RST38h | ssvb: Doing 32bpp color on these devices is not a good idea anyway | 12:39 |
| RST38h | With both the host and the guest platforms using 16bpp in my case =) | 12:40 |
| wazd | hi all :) | 12:40 |
| vvaltone | ye gods.. something still uses 16bit? :P | 12:40 |
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| ssvb | RST38h: bilinear scaling is slower with 16bpp when compared to 32bpp and is quite far from reaching memory bandwidth limit | 12:41 |
| ssvb | RST38h: but nearest scaling is still blazingly fast :) | 12:41 |
| RST38h | Well, depends on how you do it | 12:42 |
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| ssvb | RST38h: this way - http://cgit.freedesktop.org/pixman/tree/pixman/pixman-arm-simd-asm.S?id=pixman-0.22.2#n333 | 12:43 |
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| vvaltone | ssvb, why simd? | 12:44 |
| ssvb | RST38h: needs ~2 cycles per pixel on ARM Cortex-A8 | 12:44 |
| vvaltone | ssvb, because the neon code in pixman is unreadable?-) | 12:44 |
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| vvaltone | or doesn't nearest exist | 12:44 |
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| RST38h | Well needs way more pixels actually | 12:44 |
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| RST38h | not pixels, cpu cycles | 12:45 |
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| ssvb | RST38h: what do you mean? | 12:45 |
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| RST38h | But, fortunately, memory is much slower than the CPU | 12:45 |
| RST38h | Well, to do bilinear, the way I understand it, you need to 1) uncompress both pixels to 32bits, 2) add, shift, mask and 3) compress back to 16bits | 12:46 |
| ssvb | RST38h: for nearest it is 4 instructions per pixel, which perfectly dual issue (plus some loop and prefetch overhead, so it's a bit more than 2 cycles) | 12:47 |
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| RST38h | Nearest sucks, unfortunately | 12:48 |
| RST38h | At least horizontally. Vertically, I just repeat the same scanline or skip a scanline, does not matter much | 12:48 |
| ssvb | RST38h: yes, it is done this way, so 16bpp scaling is currently ~2x slower than 32bpp for bilinear | 12:49 |
| ssvb | RST38h: there are some ways to improve it though | 12:49 |
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| niala | hello meego | 12:49 |
| RST38h | I will waste more time generating 32bpp image though :) | 12:49 |
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| ssvb | RST38h: 32bpp bilinear scaling needs ~10 cycles per pixel in pixman now | 12:55 |
| RST38h | More or less the same here with 16bpp | 12:55 |
| RST38h | And mind you I do not color-merge every pixel | 12:55 |
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| lcuk | if I have a file with multiple lines and top line with a format "*(*)*" what is the shell script needed to return the "(*)" part only? | 13:02 |
| lcuk | (debian changelog if curious) | 13:02 |
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| thiago | you want a shell script that loads data from a file and extracts stuff inside parentheses? | 13:07 |
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| ssvb | RST38h: well, maybe I'll try to improve 16bpp->16bpp bilinear scaling performance in the next few days, let's see how it works | 13:07 |
| lcuk | thiago, yeah | 13:08 |
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| RST38h | ssvb: Do notice that I am not doing the general scaling | 13:09 |
| RST38h | ssvb: Instead, I do several scaling algorithms for fixed src/dst ratios | 13:09 |
| RST38h | Which hardcode the pixel order and also hardcode spots where I do the bilinear stuff | 13:10 |
| RST38h | If you are doing the general case, your mileage may vary, a lot | 13:10 |
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| ssvb | general case can be also fast | 13:10 |
| RST38h | BTW, I have also got a set of 32bpp algoithms for the same purpose, using plain ARM9/ARM11 instruction set | 13:11 |
| RST38h | For cases when the target hw runs in 32bpp | 13:11 |
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| ssvb | I'm a bit less interested in ARM9/ARM11, or even NEON-crippled Cortex-A9 :) | 13:13 |
| RST38h | Well, I have seen the pipeline leading to NEON in A8, and I am not very enthusiastic about NEON | 13:13 |
| ssvb | NEON is working quite well in A8 | 13:14 |
| * javispedro is neither, for simple scaling at least. | 13:14 | |
| RST38h | ssvb: Once A8 reads a NEON instruction, the results will only be available after at least 11 clocks, I think | 13:15 |
| RST38h | ssvb: So, when coding in assembler, you have to be real careful scheduling these | 13:16 |
| ssvb | RST38h: it's ~20 cycles before the results are available back to ARM pipeline | 13:16 |
| RST38h | Right | 13:16 |
| RST38h | 11 to reach the NEON + some to execute it | 13:16 |
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| RST38h | Which definitely ISN'T good if you are mixing NEON and ARM code | 13:17 |
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| ssvb | RST38h: but for NEON pipeline alone the latencies between generating some result with a NEON instruction and using this result with another NEON instruction are reasonable | 13:18 |
| RST38h | If you do something completely in NEON, issuing long streams of NEON instructions is fine, yes | 13:18 |
| RST38h | And that is how people optimize for NEON | 13:18 |
| ssvb | RST38h: mixing *independent* ARM and NEON code is actually good | 13:18 |
| RST38h | But last time I checked, I can't do my scaling stuff solely on NEON, need to use both | 13:18 |
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| RST38h | Also, do notice that even ARM11 has some NEON-like instrutions (saturation etc) in its instruction set | 13:19 |
| RST38h | It is quite possible that these are sufficient to do simple 32bpp scaling (I know that they were useless for my 16bpp stuff though) | 13:20 |
| X-Fade | thp: ping? | 13:20 |
| ssvb | yes, I know, armv6 instructions can be also used to speed up bilinear scaling, but to a much smaller extent than NEON | 13:20 |
| RST38h | Yep | 13:21 |
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| RST38h | Neon should really rule on media processing though, video etc | 13:21 |
| RST38h | Where the whole pipeline can run on it | 13:21 |
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| hiemanshu_ | anyone else got an email yet? /me is still waiting | 13:46 |
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| RST38h | vasvlad: Here? | 13:48 |
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| lcuk | in qt, which widget is used to add the default menu items onscreen in symbian etc? | 14:00 |
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| thp | X-Fade: python-feedparser is not available on the obs? | 14:36 |
| thp | (harmattan obs) | 14:36 |
| thp | cobs, build.pub.meego.com | 14:36 |
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| thp | python-feedparser is available in the nokia repos, though | 14:36 |
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| X-Fade | thp: Yes, it doesn't pull those repositories in. Need to think about those a bit more :) | 14:40 |
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| harryF | hi, is there a way to check out the openssl *.spec files (http://build.meego.com/package/files?package=openssl&project=MeeGo%3A1.2.0%3Aoss) without registering in OBS? | 15:09 |
| dm8tbr | harryF: you mean like http://build.meego.com/package/view_file?file=openssl.spec&package=openssl&project=MeeGo%3A1.2.0%3Aoss&srcmd5=f0ad933af5bc7a1984166c1ee4ffa41c | 15:10 |
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| harryF | dm8tbr: I can click on all of the links to download all files, I was just wondering whether there's a more elegant solution | 15:11 |
| rzr | http://build.meego.com/package/view_file?file=openssl.spec&package=openssl&project=MeeGo%3A1.2.0%3Aoss&srcmd5=f0ad933af5bc7a1984166c1ee4ffa41c# | 15:11 |
| harryF | dm8tbr: e.g. osc co openssl -> done | 15:11 |
| rzr | like dget for rpm ? | 15:11 |
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| harryF | is there a direct anonymous access to the git server where those *.spec files are checked in? | 15:12 |
| Stskeeps | not a git server | 15:12 |
| Stskeeps | its comparable to svn but not svn | 15:13 |
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| harryF | Stskeeps: ok, thanks for the info. Any clue how to just tell osc to checkout those (20-ish) files without requiring an account on build.meego.com? | 15:13 |
| dm8tbr | does the server export SRPM? would that be in there? | 15:14 |
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| harryF | dm8tbr: I don't think it's in the SRPM | 15:15 |
| harryF | ok, seems there's no easy solution. I'll download the raw html, and use wget to get all links :) | 15:15 |
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| dm8tbr | harryF: if you have a COBS account it should be possible somehow | 15:16 |
| harryF | dm8tbr: the server doesn't let me register :/ | 15:16 |
| dm8tbr | harryF: https://build.pub.meego.com/user/register_user | 15:16 |
| harryF | dm8tbr: ah, thanks :) | 15:17 |
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| thp | X-Fade: ok, but at least the problem is known? :) | 15:38 |
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| X-Fade | thp: Yeah, I requested the debs to import. | 15:38 |
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| X-Fade | thp: You could add the lib to your package, if you really want to :) | 15:38 |
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| lcuk | bergie, ping, did you ever find out how to do mirror mode on the ideapad? | 15:40 |
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| vitna | hi | 16:02 |
| vitna | know anyone if is possible to disable swipe in harmanattan full screen application? | 16:02 |
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| X-Fade | vitna: Yes. | 16:03 |
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| vitna | how | 16:12 |
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| javispedro | I wish you could see more "latest updates" in OBS | 16:16 |
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| CaCO3 | Hi X-Fade | 16:26 |
| lcuk | very quiet today | 16:27 |
| CaCO3 | I am looking to get a OBS account | 16:27 |
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| captainigloo | i would like to create meego packages, I read some doc on meego wiki, and i was wondering if the only solution is to get a OBS account when you don't want to use meego sdk ? | 16:28 |
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| lcuk | captainigloo, which device are you working on? | 16:29 |
| captainigloo | lcuk: ideapad S10-3t and n950 | 16:30 |
| bergie | lcuk: AFAIK it isn't possible. There is a bug against meego netbook on that | 16:30 |
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| bergie | (display mirroring that is) | 16:30 |
| lcuk | bergie, yeah I filed a duplicate bug and earlier resolved dupe of the one you made | 16:30 |
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| bergie | lcuk: https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10346 | 16:31 |
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| MeeGoBot | Bug 10346 nor, Low, ---, yan.i.li, NEW, No option for display mirroring with external screens | 16:31 |
| lcuk | captainigloo, since you are aiming for both devices obs is indeed the simplest method | 16:31 |
| lcuk | bergie, it would be good to find a way to actually make that work | 16:31 |
| captainigloo | lcuk: ok so i have to ask there for an OBS account ? | 16:31 |
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| lcuk | mirrored mode would allow demos on bigger screen | 16:32 |
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| lcuk | X-Fade, lbt ^^ | 16:32 |
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| lbt | captainigloo: http://wiki.meego.com/OBS | 16:33 |
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| captainigloo | lbt: thanks | 16:34 |
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| lbt | so captainigloo just ping when you've read that and have the info | 16:37 |
| CaCO3 | Hi lbt | 16:38 |
| CaCO3 | I would like to requestz a an OBS account | 16:38 |
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| lcuk | bergie, have you managed to use mirrored display on any meego device? | 16:38 |
| lcuk | ie exopc | 16:39 |
| alterego | CaCO3: do you have a meego.com ID? | 16:39 |
| captainigloo | lbt : request for an OBS account, accountname captianigloo | 16:39 |
| lbt | CaCO3: so I just need the info requested | 16:39 |
| bergie | lcuk: haven't tried on exo | 16:40 |
| lbt | captainigloo: done ... OSS only OK | 16:40 |
| CaCO3 | you mean the login name? | 16:40 |
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| CaCO3 | => CaCO3 | 16:40 |
| lbt | bbiam | 16:40 |
| captainigloo | lbt: OSS ? | 16:40 |
| captainigloo | Open source sofrware ? | 16:41 |
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| captainigloo | lbt: thanks :) And yes it's for opensource software :) I don't know any other kind of software ;) | 16:42 |
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| lbt | CaCO3: done | 17:01 |
| CaCO3 | thank you very much! | 17:02 |
| gandhijee | hey can i get meego 1.2 for the tablet? | 17:03 |
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| swift11 | JOIN #igloo | 17:07 |
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| pebcak | what happened to the snapshot images? | 17:12 |
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| gandhijee | hey, does anyone know how to get the wetab to actually boot from USB? i've been trying the whole push the pwr button for 1 second and putting the finger over the soft button | 17:53 |
| gandhijee | but it doesn't seem to be working for me | 17:53 |
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| aissen | gandhijee: isn't there a menu on the top-right of the screen ? | 17:54 |
| gandhijee | aissen: thats on the exoPC's | 17:54 |
| aissen | gandhijee: ok. | 17:55 |
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| lcuk | in qt, which widget is used to add the default menu items onscreen in symbian etc? | 18:11 |
| thiago | lcuk: better ask in #qt-symbian | 18:12 |
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| alterego | thiago: I met cpscotti last night in London :) | 18:13 |
| alterego | lcuk: you would have loved it last night, free beer, free pizza, then free bar :D | 18:13 |
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| * thiago tries to place the nickname to someone he met | 18:13 | |
| alterego | Heh | 18:14 |
| thiago | alterego: sorry, doesn't ring a bell. Who's that? | 18:14 |
| lcuk | alterego yeah it sounds great, did you get any input about appup for your apps though | 18:14 |
| lcuk | ( I guess that was its intention) | 18:15 |
| alterego | Neah, I'm not really interested in app up until we have some mobile hardware using it. | 18:15 |
| alterego | thiago: he worked on the snow boarding app for N8? | 18:15 |
| thiago | alterego: no, still doesn't ring a bell | 18:16 |
| alterego | :) | 18:16 |
| alterego | Oh well | 18:16 |
| cpscotti | alterego, yes.. it was really epic | 18:16 |
| cpscotti | I'm afraid of getting used to that.. | 18:16 |
| alterego | :) | 18:16 |
| cpscotti | It's like working at google, but way better | 18:17 |
| alterego | I need to start going to more of these :D | 18:17 |
| cpscotti | without java, Google+ or android | 18:17 |
| alterego | Heh | 18:17 |
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| cpscotti | thiago, join us in the next one somewhere :D | 18:19 |
| gandhijee | does anyone know the root passwd for the wetab os? or is it randomly generated at install? | 18:20 |
| thiago | cpscotti: when you guys are in Oslo, I'll join | 18:21 |
| cpscotti | oh cool!! | 18:22 |
| cpscotti | Epic Troll? | 18:22 |
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| pebcak | gandhijee sudo -s | 18:26 |
| pebcak | and the password you choose at the start | 18:27 |
| pebcak | then change root password with passwd | 18:27 |
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| lcuk | alterego, who else do we know that was at the appup event? | 19:25 |
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| luist | hey im having problems mirroring meego 1.2 using rsync… i was told this rsync repo exists… can anyone help? http://www.pastie.org/2173114 | 19:27 |
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| lcuk | luist, odd | 19:28 |
| lcuk | hiya Noobmonk3y | 19:28 |
| luist | lcuk: uh?? | 19:28 |
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| Noobmonk3y | hey hey! | 19:30 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: 4 of my colleagues, including my brother, were at the London AppUp event yesterday evening | 19:30 |
| * Noobmonk3y still tapping foot waiting for nokia developer to magi'macally tell me i have an n950 waiting :P | 19:30 | |
| alterego | lcuk: ash was there, vgrade, Jaffas brother | 19:30 |
| * alterego chuckles | 19:31 | |
| alterego | Noobmonk3y: probably not until tomorrow now ;) | 19:31 |
| lcuk | cool | 19:31 |
| alterego | I've not even had launchpad acceptance :( | 19:31 |
| berndhs | there might be free beer tomorrow too | 19:31 |
| Noobmonk3y | alterego, agreed - but my launchpad membership went through at 01:00 UK time, so the minions are working all hours, hehehe | 19:31 |
| GAN900 | alterego, they thing you took the one from the meetup. :P *g* | 19:31 |
| Noobmonk3y | alterego, have you logged in and out of nokia dev? didnt work for me until i did that | 19:32 |
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| alterego | Noobmonk3y: I don't even have a launchpad entry in "My PRograms" or whatever. | 19:34 |
| alterego | Noobmonk3y: it's positive they're working all day and night though :) | 19:35 |
| GAN900 | "No programs!" | 19:35 |
| alterego | GAN900: that's what mine says :P | 19:35 |
| GAN900 | http://thousandsparrows.com/n950.jpg | 19:36 |
| Noobmonk3y | hehe good luck alterego :) :) | 19:36 |
| alterego | GAN900: I touched one last night | 19:36 |
| alterego | I did my first swipe! | 19:36 |
| alterego | Had to tweet that .. | 19:37 |
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| Jaffa | alterego: Not your own, though? | 19:40 |
| Jaffa | Apparently there wasn't a PNG guy at last night's... | 19:40 |
| alterego | Heh, | 19:40 |
| alterego | No, was very civilised | 19:40 |
| GAN900 | Jaffa, how big is the eMMC? | 19:40 |
| alterego | I think I could have answered a lot of the questions better than the presenter though .. | 19:40 |
| Jaffa | GAN900: 16GB | 19:41 |
| GAN900 | suck | 19:41 |
| Jaffa | alterego: Yeah, that's what Rob said | 19:41 |
| Jaffa | GAN900: About 7GB is taken up for rootfs & /home | 19:41 |
| Jaffa | GAN900: Leaving about 9GB for FAT MyDocs | 19:41 |
| GAN900 | Not much | 19:41 |
| fiferboy | Jaffa: What does the "G" stand for? | 19:41 |
| GAN900 | Greatness! | 19:41 |
| Jaffa | fiferboy: Awesome | 19:41 |
| alterego | Jaffa: I kept thinking of shouting the answers, but didn't want to seem rude ;) | 19:42 |
| Jaffa | alterego: So, have you got a *second* ExoPC, or did you miss it in SF? (ISTR you missed it, actually) | 19:42 |
| Jaffa | alterego: :-) | 19:42 |
| alterego | "No Programs" | 19:42 |
| GAN900 | No programs! | 19:42 |
| alterego | No, I got an Exo in SF | 19:42 |
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| alterego | I went as someone else, who was ill, | 19:43 |
| Jaffa | alterego: Ah, to pass on the Exo to him? | 19:43 |
| alterego | Yeaj | 19:43 |
| Jaffa | Sweet | 19:43 |
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| alterego | I've actually got three sitting in my flat right now | 19:43 |
| Jaffa | Any of them charged? | 19:43 |
| alterego | My one and two from last night that I'm looking after :D | 19:43 |
| alterego | Mine is charged. | 19:43 |
| alterego | But I think there's a slight hardware fault with it. | 19:44 |
| alterego | Gonna need to take it apart, think the wifi PCI card has come a bit loose. | 19:44 |
| fiferboy | alterego: That would void your war... never mind :) | 19:44 |
| luist | hey im having problems mirroring meego 1.2 using rsync… i was told this rsync repo exists… can anyone help? http://www.pastie.org/2173114 | 19:44 |
| alterego | Don't think my gf appreciates the living room looking like an Intel warehouse though ;) | 19:45 |
| SpeedEvil | alterego: Could be worse. You could have got her a bunny suit. | 19:45 |
| alterego | Need to get them to their prospective owners asap | 19:45 |
| alterego | Heh | 19:45 |
| alterego | Also, added maps to Columbus http://stage.rubyx.co.uk/columbus/columbus-qml-20110706-1.png | 19:46 |
| fiferboy | alterego: What do you use for your map view in QML? | 19:47 |
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| alterego | fiferboy: QtMobility Location API | 19:47 |
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| fiferboy | alterego: How easy/good/flexible is it? | 19:48 |
| alterego | fiferboy: I'll let you know when I hit some problems ;) | 19:49 |
| alterego | At the moment I'm trying to make it pannable | 19:49 |
| alterego | But it doesn't seem like it wants to move as it's all embedded inside a list view. | 19:49 |
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| * fiferboy points GAN900 toward the QtMobility Location API | 19:49 | |
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| alterego | Think I might need to come up with a UX redesign to work better with, say, Harmattan swipe UI | 19:50 |
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| alterego | Ah, think I've got it working. | 19:50 |
| fiferboy | alterego: Columbus is pure QML? | 19:50 |
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| alterego | fiferboy: no | 19:51 |
| alterego | fiferboy: it was originall Qt/C++ | 19:51 |
| alterego | I'm porting the custom QWidget based UX to QML at the moment to make it more portable, as the UX depends on qt-maemo5 | 19:51 |
| alterego | http://stage.rubyx.co.uk/columbus/index.html | 19:51 |
| alterego | That's the original UX | 19:51 |
| fiferboy | alterego: So is your goal to keep the original UI available in the source and add in QML for systems where it makes sense? | 19:53 |
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| fiferboy | Or will there be a total conversion to QML at some point | 19:56 |
| alterego | The UX is a layer on top of the core library | 19:58 |
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| alterego | The UIs will basically be "plugins" .. | 19:58 |
| alterego | But I don't see myself maintaining the non QML UX | 19:58 |
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| fiferboy | alterego: That is a pretty good way of doing it for a larger application | 19:59 |
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| fiferboy | alterego: But the QML interface you are making is pure QML, no components? | 20:02 |
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| alterego | Pure QML yes. | 20:03 |
| alterego | I don't want to have to wrestle with dependencies on other peoples widgets and I've always tried to keep Columbus looking like a self-encapsulated environment. | 20:04 |
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| fiferboy | It works well for your application; very nice look | 20:05 |
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| alterego | Thanks :) | 20:07 |
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| alterego | Think I might use tapping to move about the map, rather than scrolling | 20:12 |
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| fiferboy | alterego: Do you think the swipe interface could interfere with panning? | 20:14 |
| alterego | Not the Harmattan swiping. | 20:14 |
| alterego | But I have swipe for changing views. | 20:15 |
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| fiferboy | alterego: What about two fingered swipes for view changes and 1 finger panning? | 20:15 |
| alterego | Not a bad idea. | 20:15 |
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| alterego | Not sure how to do multitouch though ;) | 20:16 |
| fiferboy | Yeah, I don't know how QML/Qt handles that | 20:16 |
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| fiferboy | If you could detect whether the platform detects it you could use that, and use tap scrolling if it can't | 20:17 |
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| luist | hey im having problems mirroring meego 1.2 using rsync… i was told this rsync repo exists… can anyone help? http://www.pastie.org/2173114 | 20:20 |
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| w00t | luist: there is no '1.2' in http://mirrors.kernel.org/meego/releases/, which is probably related | 20:21 |
| luist | w00t: any idea where i can get a rsync mirror for 1.2? | 20:22 |
| * khertan didn't understand why qemu is so slow with qtcreator | 20:23 | |
| fiferboy | khertan: On Linux? | 20:23 |
| khertan | yep | 20:23 |
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| fiferboy | Apparently a "know issue" | 20:24 |
| fiferboy | But Windows is (allegely) faster :) | 20:24 |
| khertan | ah ... If it s a know issue ... | 20:24 |
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| khertan | hum ... trying to promote windows again ? | 20:24 |
| khertan | :) | 20:24 |
| fiferboy | I couldn't say if it is faster, as I have wiped it from all my systems | 20:25 |
| fiferboy | qemu isn't bad if you don't want to actually /interact/ with your program | 20:25 |
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| khertan | fiferboy, and if you do not want to wait while you launch it | 20:33 |
| khertan | :) | 20:33 |
| khertan | as it s a python qml mix ... i ll probably got a better dev environment trying to install harmattan qml components on my n900 | 20:34 |
| luist | can anyone help me find an rsync server for meego 1.2 releases and updates? | 20:36 |
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| w00t | khertan: there are packages for ubuntu in a FN PPA somewhere, might be worth a try | 20:53 |
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| fiferboy | w00t: I never quite understood what the packages for Ubuntu actually were | 21:04 |
| fiferboy | w00t: Qt Components for Ubuntu? Or Harmattan components installable in Ubuntu? | 21:04 |
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| khertan | w00t, fiferboy, this component wasn't pure qml ? | 21:14 |
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| fiferboy | khertan: The components library creates system style "widgets" in QML (AFAICT) | 21:16 |
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| khertan | it s not only a lib | 21:23 |
| khertan | it s not only qml file | 21:23 |
| khertan | there is a lib also | 21:23 |
| khertan | so clearly not something that will be available on all target | 21:23 |
| khertan | i should stay on pure qml | 21:23 |
| khertan | and do everything myself | 21:23 |
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| captainigloo | i'm trying to build a package with obs, but when i added a source file (http link to a tar.gz) I get this error : service daemon error: connect to store-vlan60.pub.in.meego.com:5152: Connection refused | 21:48 |
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| captainigloo | i'm doing something wrong ? or it's an OBS problem ? | 21:49 |
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| fiferboy | khertan: I suppose the advantage of components is that it will look like the system (if it supports components) | 22:11 |
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| thiago | that's the idea | 22:11 |
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| fiferboy | thiago: Harmattan and Symbian are supported currently, but Maemo 5 and desktop are coming? | 22:16 |
| fiferboy | What about plain old MeeGo? | 22:16 |
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| thiago | fiferboy: no one is working on Maemo5 | 22:20 |
| thiago | the Harmattan components were supposed to work on plain MeeGo but don't | 22:20 |
| thiago | so instead use the meego-ux-components | 22:20 |
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| thiago | until we come up with a combined solution | 22:21 |
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| lcuk | thiago, which are the simplest set to use? | 22:22 |
| lcuk | (evening fiferboy and thiago btw) | 22:22 |
| fiferboy | Hi lcuk | 22:22 |
| fiferboy | The Harmattan components are easy enough to use, and I haven't done QML before | 22:23 |
| fiferboy | Haven't tried the meego-ux-components (yet) | 22:23 |
| lcuk | fiferboy, do you have database APIs available? | 22:23 |
| lcuk | or have you not gotten that into it yet? | 22:23 |
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| khertan | thiago, hum ... harmattan component will not be available for Maemo ? | 22:24 |
| fiferboy | lcuk: I haven't looked into database with components | 22:24 |
| fiferboy | My plan is to keep the database work in the C++ backend and use delegates in the QML interface | 22:25 |
| lcuk | reasonable enough | 22:25 |
| fiferboy | I haven't looked at combining a QML frontend with a C++ backend yet, though | 22:26 |
| lcuk | heh | 22:26 |
| npm | has anybody gotten developer launchpad response from Nokia (Re N950's)? | 22:26 |
| lcuk | i was trying out a few app ideas over the weekend | 22:26 |
| fiferboy | I read about that a while back, before I actually tried out QML | 22:26 |
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| vilvo | hi, who can create accounts to build.pub.meego.com? | 22:59 |
| MSvB | Good question, I wish I knew. | 23:00 |
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| vilvo | timoph: ping | 23:01 |
| timoph | vilvo: yo | 23:02 |
| vilvo | ^ | 23:02 |
| timoph | vilvo: X-Fade or lbt | 23:02 |
| vilvo | thanks | 23:02 |
| timoph | np | 23:02 |
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| vilvo | X-Fade , lbt: what's needed for a build.pub.meego.com account? other than "Come and say hello at #meego running on Freenode." | 23:03 |
| vilvo | hello | 23:03 |
| vilvo | there I said it | 23:03 |
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| timoph | :D | 23:04 |
| vilvo | timoph: how's life? | 23:04 |
| timoph | afaik it's just a sanity check that you're using c.obs to build open source stuff | 23:04 |
| timoph | vilvo: not bad, on vacation and waiting for my n950 :p | 23:05 |
| vilvo | sounds good then | 23:05 |
| timoph | dunno if you've been following what goes on in MeeGo QA (tools) lately | 23:06 |
| vilvo | to be honest, not really | 23:06 |
| lbt | vilvo: you need to beg | 23:06 |
| vilvo | please brief me | 23:06 |
| lbt | & plead | 23:07 |
| timoph | you haven't missed much. there's a bit of lack of direction | 23:07 |
| GeneralAntilles | lbt, beg whom? Please tell me? | 23:07 |
| lbt | and tell me your account on meego.com | 23:07 |
| berndhs | flower or beer have been suggested | 23:07 |
| vilvo | dear, generous mr.lbt would you be the kindest bofh of build.pub.meego.com and grant me an account there? | 23:07 |
| lbt | why sure... | 23:07 |
| lbt | done | 23:08 |
| timoph | :) | 23:08 |
| lbt | MSvB: you too? | 23:08 |
| lbt | OSS development and I need your meego.com account | 23:08 |
| vilvo | did I wrote bofh? might have been subconcious | 23:08 |
| lbt | I guessed vilvo wouldn't have the imagination to have a different nick/account :) | 23:08 |
| MSvB | lbt: Um, yes please. | 23:08 |
| vilvo | good guess lbt | 23:09 |
| lbt | MSvB: so.... meego.com account .. MSvB ? | 23:09 |
| lbt | nope... | 23:09 |
| timoph | vilvo: but yeah there was one "big" thing - I gave up on pressuring devs to run their tests in unhacked env and introduced a hack to eat-device that enables root access to X and session bus | 23:11 |
| MSvB | Thanks to lbt for administrating the MeeGo OBS accounts. | 23:11 |
| MSvB | It will be nice to experiment in there. | 23:12 |
| lbt | MSvB: np... have fun | 23:12 |
| timoph | nah. he just wants to make people humble in front of him :p | 23:12 |
| lbt | *g* | 23:12 |
| nido | when I type 'sudo gainroot'; should it ask for a password (meego 1.2 'summer ed.' on an n900? | 23:13 |
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| lbt | timoph: what stat is OTS in at the moment? | 23:13 |
| timoph | nido: type su | 23:13 |
| lbt | in particular "installable" | 23:13 |
| timoph | nido: password is meego | 23:13 |
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| lbt | can I do "apt-get install ots-webui" or something ? | 23:13 |
| nido | meego is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. | 23:13 |
| timoph | lbt: not yet. We need to package a few things before that can happen | 23:14 |
| nid0 | so thats where my nick went :< | 23:14 |
| timoph | working on it(tm) | 23:14 |
| nido | nid0: nice to meet you | 23:14 |
| lbt | timoph: OK | 23:14 |
| timoph | lbt: but that's one of our short term targets - "make ots installation and setup easy" | 23:15 |
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| mcfrisk | timoph, do you happen to know about ots worker setups with Intel & Atom boards? | 23:21 |
| nido | timoph: sorry for misreading you. it is working | 23:22 |
| vilvo | timoph: sorry to hear that but I'm happy to see that people are interested in ots here at #meego | 23:22 |
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| timoph | mcfrisk: haven't tried that in some time but should work. OTS really doesn't care about the used HW. it's just need to be setup so that it can install the sw and connect to it via ssh | 23:22 |
| lbt | vilvo: yep, mcfrisk and I want to get it deployed internally | 23:24 |
| mcfrisk | yes, I know, but setting up the worker is in my mind the biggest deal. At least it was a bit of a fight in maemo... | 23:25 |
| vilvo | that would be some time ago | 23:25 |
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| timoph | mcfrisk: it's getting easier | 23:26 |
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| mcfrisk | good, I think I'll be looking into the ots and worker setups this week, now that lbt saved me from img.. | 23:28 |
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| timoph | actually the intel board setup isn't that well decumented. you might want to check https://meego.gitorious.org/meego-quality-assurance/meego-ai-serviceos | 23:28 |
| timoph | for the automated installation bit | 23:28 |
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| lbt | timoph: I know you're on hol - but any names for people who may know about OTS would be useful | 23:30 |
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| lbt | as in setting up the Intel boards and suchlike | 23:30 |
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| timoph | jwang is the tool lead from intel's side | 23:30 |
| timoph | tools | 23:30 |
| * vilvo dodges | 23:30 | |
| timoph | haha :) | 23:30 |
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| lbt | mcfrisk: did you see him blink ? | 23:31 |
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| timoph | you can bug timakima too | 23:31 |
| mcfrisk | lbt: yes, saw that. It's in my notes already. | 23:31 |
| timoph | but anyway easiest way would be to shout in #meego-qa during working hours | 23:32 |
| lbt | but these *are* working hours? | 23:33 |
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| mcfrisk | yes, I'm there lurking. | 23:33 |
| timoph | maybe for you and me but for normal people | 23:33 |
| mcfrisk | lbt: normal people don't work 20h a day but maybe we have obs & img up in the morning :) | 23:34 |
| lbt | imger is being a pita | 23:34 |
| lbt | apparently "it builds" is good enough for QA | 23:34 |
| timoph | :) | 23:35 |
| timoph | "it compiles" - "ship it" | 23:35 |
| lbt | mcfrisk: OBS works though | 23:35 |
| lbt | properly | 23:35 |
| mcfrisk | kernel compiles? | 23:35 |
| vilvo | whoa, fcam builds on meego on ce without anything | 23:36 |
| vilvo | dare I try the drivers | 23:36 |
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| Stskeeps | well, worth a try | 23:36 |
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| lbt | mcfrisk: kernel-adaptation-intel-automotive-2.6.37.7-1.1.i586.rpm | 23:37 |
| mcfrisk | \o/ | 23:37 |
| timoph | vilvo: about the MeeGo N900 CE. You see QA tools work in it. kyranto wrote the package manager.. | 23:37 |
| vilvo | thanks Stskeeps et al. for great work with ce | 23:37 |
| lbt | mcfrisk: yeah... | 23:37 |
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| vilvo | uh, too early "g++: Internal error: Killed (program cc1plus)" | 23:38 |
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| Stskeeps | fun | 23:38 |
| javispedro | out of memory? | 23:39 |
| vilvo | might be but I need to get some sleep now | 23:42 |
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| Stskeeps | obs build or ? | 23:44 |
| vilvo | on n900 | 23:45 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 23:45 |
| timoph | bit surprised that no one has packaged fcam yet | 23:47 |
| Stskeeps | it is complex as kernel side is a bit different | 23:47 |
| timoph | ah | 23:47 |
| Stskeeps | but maybe drivers can work | 23:47 |
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