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| zehjotkah | hi | 00:20 |
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| mikhas | wrong channel, you are at the conference, so it's #meegoconf for you ;-) | 00:22 |
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| DongsNbongS | hola | 00:28 |
| DongsNbongS | where's the meego conference back channel | 00:28 |
| DongsNbongS | or is this it? | 00:28 |
| Stskeeps | meegoconf | 00:29 |
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| diez | hi, how can i disable airplane mode by console? in which config-file can i change it? wlan isn't working because of that, i think (using meego 1.2 tablet preview) - lspci lists me the realtek wlan adapter correctly | 00:48 |
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| akk | diez: See if rfkill is installed ... at least, that can work on desktop linux. | 00:52 |
| akk | rfkill list, and see what it says. | 00:52 |
| akk | (If something is setting airplane mode, using rfkill to turn things back on is only a workaround, though.) | 00:53 |
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| diez | rfkill is not installed on meego 1.2 tablet version | 00:56 |
| diez | ok, this program would enable/disable wireless connections, right? | 00:56 |
| akk | Right. | 00:56 |
| diez | if i look it up in man | 00:56 |
| diez | see it in my ubuntu box | 00:56 |
| diez | ok, i'll think it's not the airplane mode | 00:56 |
| diez | ;-) | 00:57 |
| akk | How do you tell you're on airplane mode? I haven't found that in the tablet UX. | 00:57 |
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| diez | just interpreted the ui wrong... | 00:58 |
| diez | thought airplane mode on, but this was actually a switch *headagainstthewall* | 00:58 |
| diez | back to scratch one, no wlan found, wlan adapter correctly listed by lspci | 00:59 |
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| diez | akk: know what's wrong if no wlan0 device is available? | 01:06 |
| akk | What the hardware? Maybe it's a driver that's not in the standard kernel. | 01:07 |
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| diez | realtek RTL8191SEvA | 01:07 |
| akk | Is there a module for it loaded? (if you lsmod) | 01:08 |
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| diez | video, joydev, battery... | 01:09 |
| diez | which module should be loaded? | 01:09 |
| akk | A quick google search for realtek 8191 wifi linux makes it look like there aren't drivers in the standard kernel. | 01:10 |
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| akk | If you google you'll probably find the name of the driver (probably something with rtl in it, so e.g. lsmod | grep rtl) | 01:11 |
| akk | and it might be you'll have to build a kernel module for it | 01:12 |
| diez | got the driver | 01:12 |
| diez | thanks | 01:12 |
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| Umeaboy | Hi! | 01:26 |
| Umeaboy | Do you guys know IF Fujitsu Stylistic Q550-5NO 30GB 3G works good with MeeGo? | 01:26 |
| lcuk | grab a usb image and find out! | 01:26 |
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| Umeaboy | lcuk: Well, there wasn't any hits on Google about it so I guess not. | 01:35 |
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| akk | It is pretty easy to try with a USB live image. | 01:37 |
| akk | Nothing to lose beyond the half hour downloading and writing it. | 01:37 |
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| reed | Umeaboy, you need to define what 'works with meego' means :) what are your expectations? | 01:43 |
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| Umeaboy | reed: That it at least boots & that I'm able to use it longer than 1 minute. | 01:45 |
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| reed | try it as akk said and let us know | 01:46 |
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| Umeaboy | I have to buy the stupid thing first. | 01:46 |
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| CosmoHill | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_CSRoA0MkA&feature=related << awesome GUI | 02:03 |
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| jykae | CosmoHill: looks like apple | 02:09 |
| jykae | nice ideas | 02:09 |
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| javispedro | oooold. | 02:15 |
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| lolcat | Anyone here willing to sell me their N9? | 03:47 |
| SpeedEvil | Yes. | 03:48 |
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| SpeedEvil | Willing, but unable. | 03:48 |
| iekku | N9? | 03:49 |
| SpeedEvil | I'm also willing to sell unicorns, gryffons, and honest politicians. | 03:50 |
| iekku | SpeedEvil, in finland we have almost one | 03:51 |
| iekku | honest politician | 03:51 |
| berndhs | almost one ? so maybe 0.75 of them ? | 03:51 |
| iekku | he promissed to give his salary to good use if he's selected | 03:52 |
| SpeedEvil | That's a horrid idea. | 03:52 |
| iekku | after selection he gave his salary to hire nursing people | 03:52 |
| berndhs | we had one in Canada who promised that if elected, he would resign | 03:52 |
| SpeedEvil | Politicians actually do have real expenses. | 03:53 |
| lolcat | SpeedEvil: How are you unable? not going to meegoconf= | 03:53 |
| lolcat | ? | 03:53 |
| iekku | he gave his salary, not the expence moneys | 03:53 |
| iekku | lolcat, what are you talking about? | 03:53 |
| SpeedEvil | Claiming that you're better as you won't take the money simply means that you're criticising people who cannot afford to do so. | 03:53 |
| SpeedEvil | lolcat: I have no n9. | 03:53 |
| Myrtti | lolcat: there is no N9 to sell | 03:53 |
| SpeedEvil | I can sell you a phone labelled n9 though. | 03:54 |
| SpeedEvil | It will be a real nokia. | 03:54 |
| merlin1991 | SpeedEvil: going to scrape off to 0s? | 03:54 |
| lolcat | I head they give out free N9s at MeeGoConf, but it is to far for me too attend | 03:54 |
| berndhs | I have as manuy N9s as all teh people in China | 03:54 |
| merlin1991 | s/to/two/ | 03:54 |
| infobot | merlin1991 meant: SpeedEvil: going two scrape off to 0s? | 03:54 |
| Myrtti | lolcat: you've been misinformet | 03:54 |
| Myrtti | -d | 03:54 |
| SpeedEvil | Naah - I can write n9 on my 3310. | 03:55 |
| Myrtti | I have a Sharpie you can use | 03:55 |
| SpeedEvil | Where do you keep your sharpies? | 03:55 |
| lolcat | Myrtti: Are you high up in Nokia? | 03:55 |
| SpeedEvil | I don't want any stained ones. | 03:55 |
| iekku | lolcat, so you heard the people are getting phone that doesn't exist? | 03:55 |
| lolcat | It does exist, it was found in china | 03:56 |
| Myrtti | lolcat: I'm at the conference in which there has been no devices given, apart from the warmup sessions | 03:56 |
| Myrtti | and also: there is no such device until such is published | 03:56 |
| lolcat | Is the confrence rigth now? | 03:56 |
| iekku | Myrtti, true | 03:56 |
| iekku | lolcat, yes | 03:56 |
| Myrtti | yes | 03:56 |
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| lolcat | But it is not done yet? | 03:57 |
| iekku | lolcat, there ain't going to be any new devices published in here | 03:58 |
| iekku | so far as i know | 03:58 |
| lolcat | It is a supprise | 03:58 |
| Myrtti | why would it be done as a surprise? | 03:58 |
| iekku | and i think no devices given to perticipants | 03:58 |
| Myrtti | there aren't any keynotes in the schedule | 03:58 |
| lolcat | To stun the wold | 03:59 |
| SpeedEvil | If there was a nokia speaker - then maybe. | 03:59 |
| Myrtti | press aren't going to attend a surprise session at the back of the alley | 03:59 |
| SpeedEvil | Or a LG even. | 03:59 |
| Myrtti | if there is no press, there is not going to be a published device | 03:59 |
| iekku | SpeedEvil, true | 03:59 |
| SpeedEvil | there aren't. | 03:59 |
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| SpeedEvil | It was a fairly slim chance that the nissan guy was going to be giving away cars, or the IVI guy TVs. | 03:59 |
| dsample | The only keynotes were yesterday morning (the boring one) and that was it. There are no more 'all hands' sessions | 03:59 |
| iekku | SpeedEvil, there was BMV also in the video.... | 04:00 |
| Myrtti | they are not going to go to the back alley or an afterparty where there is no guarantees that the press is attending to announce a new device | 04:00 |
| lolcat | dsample: Why not? | 04:00 |
| Myrtti | so it is quite easy to make a logical deduction there is not going to be any product announcements | 04:01 |
| iekku | SpeedEvil, i was hoping to go back home and say "honey, look what they give to me, are we keeing the older one also?" | 04:01 |
| Myrtti | lolcat: it's not in the schedule? | 04:01 |
| SpeedEvil | There have been comments about 'meego devices to be announced in the next few days' | 04:01 |
| Myrtti | sure, but Computex is next week | 04:01 |
| SpeedEvil | By people who should know. | 04:01 |
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| iekku | SpeedEvil, where? | 04:01 |
| Myrtti | so it could be that | 04:01 |
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| SpeedEvil | Indeed. | 04:02 |
| lolcat | SpeedEvil: Like me? | 04:02 |
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| SpeedEvil | I don't think it's happening at meego conf. | 04:02 |
| SpeedEvil | lolcat: No - you shouldn't know. | 04:02 |
| lolcat | Where? I want one | 04:02 |
| dsample | lolcat: that's just what the program says... everything today and tomorrow are in one of 9 rooms | 04:02 |
| SpeedEvil | Well - look on the schedule. | 04:02 |
| SpeedEvil | What conferences are in the next few days or weeks? | 04:02 |
| lolcat | SpeedEvil: Nokia is sending me confidential emails | 04:02 |
| SpeedEvil | Jesus sends me confidential emails. | 04:03 |
| Myrtti | lolcat: GREAT | 04:03 |
| Myrtti | have a cookie. | 04:03 |
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| iekku | i can offer milk with the cookie' | 04:04 |
| lolcat | SpeedEvil: So there will be a N9? When can I get it? | 04:04 |
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| SpeedEvil | I have no idea. | 04:05 |
| Myrtti | lolcat: there is no such device until it is published | 04:05 |
| iekku | lolcat, it doesn't read in the mails you receive? | 04:05 |
| lolcat | Myrtti: I have seen images of it | 04:05 |
| lolcat | iekku: That part was somewhat unclear | 04:05 |
| Myrtti | lolcat: and people see Holy Mary in a cheese sandwich | 04:05 |
| Myrtti | it still doesn't mean she exists | 04:05 |
| Myrtti | or justin bieber in a jellybean | 04:06 |
| iekku | i wouldn't be so trusted about some devices found in china until the manufacturer really publish the device | 04:06 |
| lolcat | I saw an image of the pieces of the phone, I've seen a movie about it, a bunch of spechs on gsmarena | 04:06 |
| Myrtti | what you have seen may be a proto that has since been ditched | 04:06 |
| iekku | and even then i wouldn't be sure it's going to be on sale | 04:06 |
| Myrtti | or it may be a real device | 04:06 |
| Myrtti | the thing just is, it's NOT OFFICIALLY PUBLISHED, AND MAY BE SUBJECT TO CHANGE | 04:07 |
| SpeedEvil | Don't believe in devices unless it's actually arrived in a 'normal' customers hands. | 04:07 |
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| Myrtti | and from the signs in the air, there isn't going to be anything published on the conference either | 04:07 |
| lolcat | But I need a phone | 04:07 |
| Myrtti | lolcat: and I need million dollars | 04:07 |
| iekku | lolcat, then go and buy one? | 04:07 |
| SpeedEvil | lolcat: Wait a bit - get a second hand n900, or ... | 04:08 |
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| iekku | problem solved, next | 04:08 |
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| lolcat | iekku: I want one with meego | 04:08 |
| lolcat | SpeedEvil: Or wait for the N9 announcment in June? | 04:08 |
| SpeedEvil | get n900, put meego-DE on. | 04:08 |
| iekku | lolcat, then the n900 | 04:08 |
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| iekku | problem solved, next | 04:09 |
| SpeedEvil | Nailing down specific dates is hard. | 04:09 |
| Myrtti | let me get my wizard hat | 04:09 |
| dsample | SpeedEvil: hands off the second-hand N900... I want one first | 04:09 |
| lolcat | Why would I want meego UI when it has Maemo UI? Maemo UI is supperior | 04:09 |
| dsample | SpeedEvil: https://twitter.com/#!/dsample/status/72770021570519040 see... I called dibs | 04:10 |
| SpeedEvil | Solution to if the N9 has no keyboard - http://www.dealextreme.com/p/ultrathin-bluetooth-slide-out-keyboard-hard-case-for-apple-iphone-4-black-65669 | 04:10 |
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| lolcat | SpeedEvil: gsmarena says it does | 04:11 |
| Myrtti | lolcat: oh come on, stop it already | 04:12 |
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| twoboxen | anyone from meego conference here | 06:57 |
| akk | Have you tried #meegoconf ? (mentioned in the topic, dunno if it's been active) | 07:01 |
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| twoboxen | i'll try it. thanks! | 07:11 |
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| Jay_BEE | wish I could still be at the conference :( | 07:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: damn nice | 08:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | even 4 row | 08:01 |
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| tar-gz | Hi! | 09:54 |
| tar-gz | How i can install meego in my netbook when i have live-usb? | 09:54 |
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| eg81 | tar-gz: https://meego.com/devices/netbook/installing-meego-your-netbook | 09:57 |
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| tar-gz | eg81: But i have now live-usb with mee-go but i don't know how i can install yhis | 09:59 |
| tar-gz | this* | 09:59 |
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| eg81 | there is an install option during meego boot | 10:02 |
| tar-gz | meego is based on fedora? | 10:03 |
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| PeYKaR | I want to switch from maemo to meego on my n900 box. is meego stable enough? | 10:43 |
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| teve | it's stable for application development but not suitable as a primary OS for cellphone yet. | 10:45 |
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| Jay_BEE | gn | 11:51 |
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| slaine | tar-gz: you figure it out yet ? | 13:35 |
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| slaine | If you want to do it from the live environment on the key, rather than reboot and run it, then Got to the Applications\System and open the Terminal. log in as root (su -) and then run liveinst | 13:37 |
| lolcat | Can I install aptitude on Meego? | 13:37 |
| CosmoHill | iirc init 4 is the installer | 13:37 |
| CosmoHill | lolcat: and do what with it? the debain / ubuntu packages probably won't work properly | 13:38 |
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| lolcat | apt-get stuff | 13:38 |
| CosmoHill | you could compile and install apt-get if you wanted | 13:39 |
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| lolcat | Can't I use the package manager in Meego to install it? | 13:40 |
| CosmoHill | no, meego doesn't use apt | 13:40 |
| CosmoHill | you can use the GUI package manager of the command line zypper program | 13:41 |
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| lolcat | That sounds not so good | 13:51 |
| lolcat | Why cant someone just dO: Debian -> phone apps -> simple gui | 13:51 |
| CosmoHill | MeeGo isn't based on Debian | 13:51 |
| dm8tbr | that might depend on the device and manufacturer *snerk* | 13:52 |
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| lolcat | dm8tbr: hehe, you are refering to Nokia and N9? | 13:54 |
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| dm8tbr | lolcat: there is no nokia product by that name. :) | 13:55 |
| lolcat | I am so annoyed, I want meego with maemo gui, not maemo with meego gui | 13:55 |
| lolcat | dm8tbr: Cite: Gsmarena | 13:55 |
| dm8tbr | lolcat: 'no officially anounced product' - there is plenty of rumor ofc. | 13:55 |
| CosmoHill | lolcat: you can have meego with meego | 13:56 |
| CosmoHill | afaik there is no maemo with the meego gui | 13:56 |
| lolcat | CosmoHill: Maemo UI is superior | 13:56 |
| dm8tbr | I think he meant Cordia :) | 13:56 |
| lolcat | CosmoHill: maemo 6? Meego/Harmattan | 13:56 |
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| slaine | Which GUI though | 14:06 |
| slaine | MeeGo isn't a GUI, it's just a confusing brand/gui/os mashup ;) | 14:06 |
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| lolcat | slaine: The gui in Meego for N900 | 14:08 |
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| slaine | So you want the MeeGo Handset UX on maemo 5 ? | 14:09 |
| CosmoHill | I think he wants an updated maemo 5 | 14:09 |
| dm8tbr | isn't that cordia? | 14:10 |
| CosmoHill | I have no idea | 14:10 |
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| dm8tbr | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Asmoku%3Acordia - "Cordia is a project to bring Maemo 5's UI (Hildon Desktop and related components) to the MeeGo distribution. | 14:12 |
| dm8tbr | http://codex.xiaoka.com/wiki/cordia:start | 14:12 |
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| slaine | dm8tbr: I think he was asking about the opposite of that, taking the MeeGo handset UX and running it on Maemo | 14:13 |
| slaine | I'm not sure though | 14:13 |
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| dm8tbr | slaine: 10:55:10< lolcat> I am so annoyed, I want meego with maemo gui, not maemo with meego gui | 14:35 |
| slaine | ah | 14:35 |
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| ver | hehe | 14:39 |
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| ver | i haven't actually tried GTK+ for mobile jibberjabber yet, but i gotta say qtq is pretty wicked. | 14:40 |
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| amumu | is there an easy way to mount a single partition from a whole harddisk backup? | 14:46 |
| ver | a disk image? | 14:47 |
| ver | on linux? | 14:47 |
| amumu | yes | 14:47 |
| amumu | the backup includes the partition table | 14:47 |
| ver | sure, which partition? the first? | 14:47 |
| amumu | yes and if possible the second too | 14:48 |
| ver | http://www.omninerd.com/articles/Installing_GRUB_on_a_Hard_Disk_Image_File <- this explains it | 14:48 |
| ver | but don't do anything with mkfs :) | 14:49 |
| ver | just sort out the geometry and block size. | 14:49 |
| ver | losetup -o <offset to partition> and --sizelimit <size of the partition in bytes> and your loop devices | 14:50 |
| ver | then you can use the loop device as though it were a partition. | 14:50 |
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| ver | suuuupereeeeasy | 14:51 |
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| amumu | ver: thanks :) | 15:05 |
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| lcuk | o_O n900-de in tablet mode happily still got battery after a night unplugged | 16:02 |
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| lcuk | hmm bug 14340 still not cured (was marked dupe of bug 12492) | 16:12 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14340 nor, Undecided, ---, fboudra, RESO DUPLICATE, [N900] Cannot install git | 16:12 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12492 nor, Undecided, ---, anas.nashif, NEW, armv7l zypper repos not showing noarch packages | 16:12 |
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| Myrtti | I see the backlog is full of lulz | 16:51 |
| lcuk | Myrtti, we want the futurelog to contain many smiles | 16:52 |
| lcuk | a question about meego - in Windows, I have a Startup folder, which will run each app with a shortcut in there | 16:52 |
| lcuk | is similar available on meego without needing a phd in console? | 16:53 |
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| rm_work | ono i missed the lulzy backlog! T_T | 16:55 |
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| rm_work | lcuk: it's called xinit usually | 16:56 |
| rm_work | err | 16:56 |
| ar | lcuk: phd is not needed. a simple one-week course will do | 16:56 |
| rm_work | xinitrc | 16:56 |
| rm_work | http://wiki.debian.org/xinitrc | 16:57 |
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| lcuk | ar, where are these courses being held? | 16:57 |
| lcuk | rm_work, it is always lulzy when you are gone | 16:58 |
| rm_work | T_T | 16:58 |
| rm_work | i thought it was always lulzy when I was HERE :P | 16:58 |
| rm_work | i must be doing it wrong | 16:58 |
| lcuk | thanks for the xinitrc hint though, will have a look | 16:59 |
| lcuk | rm_work, perhaps :P | 16:59 |
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| rm_work | lcuk: yeah np. I assume meego X11 is standard enough to read from ~/.xinitrc | 17:01 |
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| rm_work | can always try and see | 17:01 |
| tomeu | lcuk: I think something closer would be the .desktop files | 17:01 |
| ar | .desktop files? | 17:01 |
| rm_work | so, completely non-standard :P | 17:01 |
| rm_work | yeah, .desktop files are the maemo/meego shortcut files | 17:02 |
| lcuk | well I want an app I have installed to run when the desktop comes up | 17:02 |
| rm_work | or, "app definitions" | 17:02 |
| lcuk | I know there are fields in the .desktop files | 17:02 |
| rm_work | but getting them to start on system boot, dunno | 17:02 |
| lcuk | but if we want this usable by end users it should be easy | 17:02 |
| rm_work | plugins do, but i dunno how it decides to autoload those | 17:02 |
| lcuk | ie person1 wants browser | 17:02 |
| tomeu | well, .desktop files may not be "standard", but aren't anything specific to maemo or meego | 17:02 |
| rm_work | i think they're different | 17:03 |
| tomeu | they are specified by freedesktop.org and used by several desktops | 17:03 |
| rm_work | ah yeah, i guess gnome uses them too doesn't it <_< | 17:03 |
| lcuk | gabrbed wants mixxx loading on bootup etc | 17:03 |
| rm_work | for it's "start menu" | 17:03 |
| rm_work | lol mixxx | 17:03 |
| lcuk | rm_work, gabrbedd is closest I have seen with public meego hardware | 17:03 |
| lcuk | he has a market, history of selling hardware with specific custom set of software etc | 17:04 |
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| rm_work | hrmrm | 17:04 |
| lcuk | I really like his effort | 17:04 |
| rm_work | don't know him | 17:04 |
| rm_work | his market is... portable DJs? :P | 17:05 |
| lcuk | http://indamixx.com/indamixx2-tablet.html | 17:05 |
| berndhs | his effort has a touch of reality, something lacking from some other companies | 17:05 |
| rm_work | i mean, a multitouch tablet would work GREAT for a DJ station, admittedly | 17:05 |
| lcuk | berndhs, and individuals | 17:05 |
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| tomeu | lcuk: meego should be following http://standards.freedesktop.org/autostart-spec/autostart-spec-latest.html | 17:06 |
| rm_work | yeah, that is easier and safer for apps to set up on install | 17:07 |
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| rm_work | i thought you just wanted to do your own thing | 17:07 |
| lcuk | tomeu, thanks! | 17:07 |
| lcuk | I am guessing though that would need an app itself creating to manage those and select which to autostart | 17:08 |
| lcuk | hmm | 17:08 |
| rm_work | possibly | 17:08 |
| rm_work | though still safer than editing an rc file | 17:08 |
| rm_work | it's literally just a directory listing | 17:08 |
| rm_work | so an app would be fairly easy | 17:08 |
| rm_work | especially since it even provides the icon file in the .desktop file | 17:09 |
| lcuk | think further | 17:09 |
| lcuk | it would have to be root | 17:09 |
| lcuk | or the writeback portion would be | 17:09 |
| rm_work | hrm | 17:09 |
| rm_work | MAYBE? | 17:09 |
| rm_work | depending on where they put the autostar dir | 17:09 |
| lcuk | it would have to handle the dupes and subfolders as per the spec | 17:09 |
| tomeu | why root? $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS can be in $HOME | 17:09 |
| rm_work | it still shouldn't be too hard | 17:09 |
| rm_work | ^^^ that | 17:09 |
| lcuk | that is the thing, this takes stuff from modified desktop stuff? | 17:09 |
| tomeu | $HOME/.local/etc, I think | 17:09 |
| rm_work | i don't have meego handy so i can't check | 17:10 |
| lcuk | the .desktop files are normally currently in /usr | 17:10 |
| rm_work | lcuk: for the system menu, yes | 17:10 |
| rm_work | but it just looks wherever that variable is defined to tell it to look | 17:10 |
| tomeu | http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-dev/2011-March/482038.html | 17:11 |
| tomeu | lcuk: read the XDG specs (they are shortish), there should be auto-merging of directories | 17:11 |
| lcuk | thanks tomeu | 17:12 |
| tomeu | as in, root installs some in /usr, but each user can add its own in ~/.local | 17:12 |
| lcuk | auke_, ping when you get back \o | 17:12 |
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| lcuk | so tomeu, perhaps have the autostaart reading everything from /usr to display and prompt user for those to autostart | 17:12 |
| lcuk | clear out the ~ folder, copy the selections over, add the autostart flag to each whilst copying | 17:13 |
| lcuk | and cross fingers. | 17:13 |
| tomeu | not sure, auke_ could certainly know better :) | 17:13 |
| lcuk | yeah, hence the ping ;) | 17:13 |
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| * lcuk twiddles thumbs waiting for g++ to compile stuff on n900-de | 17:17 | |
| * CosmoHill gives lcuk a cup of tea and an ice bun | 17:17 | |
| lcuk | oooh | 17:18 |
| lcuk | can you make that a coffee please | 17:18 |
| * CosmoHill waves his wand and turns it into coffee | 17:19 | |
| rm_work | lol, what's wrong with you, lcuk? isn't liking coffee over tea some kind of treason? | 17:20 |
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| rm_work | I'm apparently a queen's man to the core | 17:20 |
| * rm_work drinks tea only | 17:20 | |
| CosmoHill | me too | 17:20 |
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| lcuk | rm_work, I will drink tea when there is no coffee | 17:23 |
| * lcuk looks sideways at gcc | 17:24 | |
| * CosmoHill is slightly annoyed that windows restore doesn't put his desktop wallpaper and other settings back | 17:24 | |
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| * ar is slightly annoyed that on windows it's not obvious how to put their equivalent of /home on a separate partition | 17:31 | |
| lcuk | ar, technically windows has had roaming profiles and similar technology since NT days | 17:33 |
| lcuk | sure it is not trivial, but same is for linux | 17:33 |
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| ar | no, on linux it's just "oh let's create /home on a separate partition" and it Just Works(tm) | 17:34 |
| lcuk | Windows biggest issue is apps not using the user profile itself rather than fact the profile can be moved | 17:34 |
| CosmoHill | you mean like the ovi suite | 17:34 |
| ar | on windows you can't create a C:/Users or whatever during installation | 17:34 |
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| lcuk | ar, Right click "My Computer" goto advanced tab, click settings on the User Profiles list | 17:38 |
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| CosmoHill | are you guys about to tell me something that would have been really useful for before I installed windows on my desktop? | 17:38 |
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| lcuk | CosmoHill, windows thing I used to always do was create a user (fred normally) during installation | 17:39 |
| lcuk | then do all the updates and faff required | 17:40 |
| lcuk | then last thing create clean user accounts in the right places | 17:40 |
| * lcuk has setup many freds | 17:40 | |
| TSCHAKeee | careful, said freds may revolt for being used. :P | 17:41 |
| lcuk | that is good | 17:41 |
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| lcuk | TSCHAKeee, how is your orbitor coming on? | 17:42 |
| lcuk | orbiter | 17:42 |
| lcuk | spinny thing | 17:42 |
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| * CosmoHill read that as orbliterator :/ | 17:43 | |
| TSCHAKeee | lcuk: i'm teaching a developer to help me along the way, we're doing well. | 17:43 |
| TSCHAKeee | meanwhile i am working on the game part of LinuxMCE | 17:43 |
| lcuk | good stuff | 17:43 |
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| * lcuk last had a student during GSoC we went over many aspects and both ended up learning things | 17:44 | |
| lcuk | linuxmce has games? | 17:44 |
| * lcuk wrote differentgame a few weeks ago | 17:44 | |
| TSCHAKeee | lcuk: http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/228083_10150178407707115_716957114_7057091_7453341_n.jpg | 17:44 |
| TSCHAKeee | lcuk: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=7070624&id=716957114 | 17:45 |
| lcuk | linuxmce supports Atari 2600? | 17:45 |
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| lcuk | that says I must log into facebook | 17:45 |
| TSCHAKeee | lcuk: yes it does. | 17:45 |
| * lcuk ponders clicking signup instead | 17:45 | |
| TSCHAKeee | whoops did i | 17:45 |
| TSCHAKeee | http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/230938_10150177943522115_716957114_7052025_5376427_n.jpg | 17:46 |
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| TSCHAKeee | http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/249866_10150178300377115_716957114_7055148_809338_n.jpg | 17:46 |
| lcuk | oh so you are including hardware dongle for that software? | 17:46 |
| TSCHAKeee | it's an emulation wrapper | 17:47 |
| * TSCHAKeee points out again, I am not SELLING LinuxMCE, nor do I intend to. | 17:47 | |
| lcuk | aww there was me thinking you were writing actual games | 17:47 |
| lcuk | what does selling have to do with anything? | 17:48 |
| TSCHAKeee | but it is synchronized to the architecture | 17:48 |
| TSCHAKeee | for example | 17:48 |
| TSCHAKeee | you can have one player on one TV | 17:48 |
| TSCHAKeee | and another player on another TV | 17:48 |
| TSCHAKeee | (either in house, or another house), and the system will set up network play | 17:48 |
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| lcuk | that sounds more like the (legit) effort of the IVI system where different displays are in different parts of the car | 17:49 |
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| lcuk | TSCHAKeee, I still wonder why you emphasised you were not selling it | 17:49 |
| TSCHAKeee | terminal mode | 17:49 |
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| * TSCHAKeee is aware of it and has the code here | 17:49 | |
| TSCHAKeee | lcuk: because I am not selling it.. so grey areas like emulation do not concern me. | 17:49 |
| lcuk | I wasn't thinking terminal mode, I was thinking kids with one machine each in the back, and coupled network system to do full realtime interaction | 17:50 |
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| TSCHAKeee | *nod* | 17:50 |
| lcuk | TSCHAKee does the act of sale effect copyright violation? | 17:51 |
| TSCHAKeee | no, copyright violation relates to the ROMs | 17:51 |
| TSCHAKeee | but they tend to pay attention | 17:51 |
| TSCHAKeee | if you're selling a system with an emulator. | 17:51 |
| lcuk | they? | 17:51 |
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| TSCHAKeee | sigh | 17:52 |
| TSCHAKeee | are you always such a pedantic bastard? | 17:52 |
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| lcuk | yes | 17:52 |
| * TSCHAKeee hates people like that. | 17:52 | |
| lcuk | I feel strongly about copyright because it is one of the things Open Source is based upon | 17:52 |
| TSCHAKeee | lcuk: "they" being copyright holders for games. | 17:52 |
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| TSCHAKeee | I do too. | 17:52 |
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| * javispedro saw a linkie to a meegon avatar generator, but can't find it any longer | 18:05 | |
| javispedro | either way, it was cool. | 18:05 |
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| Myrtti | http://appupavatar.com/ | 18:06 |
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| javispedro | ty Myrtti | 18:06 |
| CosmoHill | ooo | 18:06 |
| javispedro | I do not think this is the one Texrat & co were working on though, seems like another "surprise" :P | 18:07 |
| Myrtti | np | 18:08 |
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| TSCHAKeee | yeaugh | 18:10 |
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| * TSCHAKeee is being attacked by base64 | 18:10 | |
| CosmoHill | I'm sorry | 18:10 |
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| TSCHAKeee | hahahahaha | 18:11 |
| TSCHAKeee | we've all done it | 18:11 |
| CosmoHill | I thought it was a URL I was pasting to my avatar | 18:11 |
| Stskeeps | bad CosmoHill | 18:11 |
| lcuk | ooooh Myrtti | 18:12 |
| * lcuk made an avatar | 18:12 | |
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| CosmoHill | this is what I wanted to link to: http://black-flag.co.uk/files/cosmo_meego_avatar.png | 18:13 |
| lcuk | http://liqbase.net/appupavatar.com_lcuk.meego.avatar.png | 18:13 |
| lcuk | lol CosmoHill | 18:13 |
| CosmoHill | ha! | 18:13 |
| javispedro | http://depot.javispedro.com/meegon.png | 18:14 |
| javispedro | as boring as myself! adorable! | 18:15 |
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| lcuk | javispedro, the screen needs some content! | 18:15 |
| javispedro | good point! | 18:16 |
| CosmoHill | you know I sent 5 lines of that base64 stuff, well there's a lot more of it | 18:16 |
| javispedro | CosmoHill: I bet. The geek in me tried to reconstruct the image from them. | 18:16 |
| lcuk | don't paste the rest, it woke Stskeeps up ;) | 18:16 |
| CosmoHill | it's filled up my screen of it | 18:17 |
| lcuk | surprised it didn't also wake dawnfoster up too | 18:17 |
| javispedro | lcuk: you did now =) | 18:17 |
| javispedro | ah, shes not here. | 18:17 |
| lcuk | javispedro, yeah | 18:18 |
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| CosmoHill | shell join any second and will be like "rawrr awrrr rawr" | 18:18 |
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| TSCHAKeee | where are those meegon avatars coming from? | 18:20 |
| tim____ | whats the meego ui called | 18:20 |
| lcuk | fred. | 18:21 |
| javispedro | thread. | 18:21 |
| CosmoHill | tim____: MeeGo UX, MeeGo Table UX and MeeGo Handset UX...I think | 18:21 |
| lcuk | but as a serious question, it depends on which build, netbook UX, handset UX, tablet UX etc | 18:21 |
| * javispedro has plenty of fred vs thread jokes as the average spanish english speaker pronnounces them the save | 18:21 | |
| lcuk | and to add more spice | 18:21 |
| lcuk | MeeGo UX | 18:21 |
| tim____ | can i get it on the synaptic package manager | 18:22 |
| lcuk | tim____, well if you are running a meego system you would have it already? | 18:22 |
| lcuk | if you are asking about on a different OS, go into the channels for that OS and ask | 18:22 |
| tim____ | well the wifi doesnt work on my netbook so would i put it on debian? | 18:23 |
| lcuk | javispedro, ask the debian folks then | 18:23 |
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| ph0b028 | in fedora 14 meego netbook ux is available from official repos | 18:23 |
| * lcuk thinks there is a meego on debian effort, but do not know the progress | 18:24 | |
| tim____ | will the next release have better wifi support | 18:24 |
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| ph0b028 | yes, but when.. I don't know ;) | 18:26 |
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| reed | TSCHAKeee, http://appupavatar.com/ | 18:27 |
| reed | tablet edition 1.2 has become more usable... at least i can type short email now | 18:27 |
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| reed | flash player is very very slow: any way to speed it up? (on ExoPC) | 18:28 |
| twoboxen | @reed... that's scary. I'm only starting to look into meego and reminds me of some of my maemo5 headaches | 18:29 |
| reed | twoboxen, let me put it this way: it's not ready for prime time :( If you want to hack on it, it's fun | 18:29 |
| twoboxen | i do like to hack on things... but basic functionality was my biggest n900 headache | 18:30 |
| reed | in other words, don't spend money on it, have Intel send you the hardware for free | 18:30 |
| tim____ | meego is brilliant just wish i could get the wifi working | 18:30 |
| reed | BTW, I'm talking of the tablet edition, not netbook nor phone | 18:31 |
| reed | tim____, does wifi work on other linux distro? | 18:31 |
| tim____ | yes | 18:31 |
| tim____ | currently running ubuntu on it | 18:32 |
| reed | what chipset/driver? | 18:32 |
| tim____ | i dont know | 18:32 |
| reed | well, find out ... it's the crucial step :) | 18:32 |
| reed | lspci will give you a hint | 18:32 |
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| tim____ | realtek semiconductor RTL8191sevb | 18:34 |
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| tim____ | reed: realtek semiconductor RTL8191sevb | 18:36 |
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| javispedro | hmmm?? | 18:37 |
| javispedro | isn't that an ethernet chipset? | 18:37 |
| reed | tim____, paste the full line of lspci | 18:37 |
| tim____ | its says its the ethernet wireless | 18:37 |
| javispedro | oh yes, it is wireless | 18:37 |
| javispedro | pardon me. | 18:38 |
| reed | lspci | grep Network | 18:38 |
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| tim___ | tim@tim-Starling-Netbook:~$ lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation N10 Family DMI Bridge (rev 02) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporatio | 18:39 |
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| reed | tim___, NOT the whole lspci, only the relevant line (use lspci | grep Network) | 18:40 |
| tim___ | Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family SMBus Controller (rev 02) 13:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8191SEvB Wireless LAN Controller (rev 10) | 18:40 |
| reed | perfect, now use google to find out why RTL8191SEvB and Linux don't go together | 18:42 |
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| reed | my wild guess is that meego is not including some obscure firmware blob needed for that chipset or something similar | 18:43 |
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| tim___ | its a meego problem | 18:43 |
| tim___ | the ubuntu on wifi is fine | 18:43 |
| reed | tim___, it's a Linux, the kernel, problem | 18:44 |
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| reed | most likely ubuntu does more magic than meego at figuring out what hardware you have | 18:44 |
| tim___ | then why does ubuntu work fine with this wifi then | 18:44 |
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| tim___ | answered before i said :D | 18:45 |
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| reed | I should also have asked the output of iwconfig though | 18:46 |
| reed | I'm assuming that by 'wifi not working' you mean that the interface is not showing up | 18:46 |
| reed | tim___, is this the case? what's the exact symptom? | 18:46 |
| teve | most likely you'll need to dl some firmware blob, see e.g. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=934999 | 18:46 |
| tim___ | well nothing comes up | 18:46 |
| reed | tim___, ok then, it means that the kernel is not loading the driver | 18:47 |
| reed | read dmesg output to see if there is something evident | 18:48 |
| tim___ | theres alot of stuff | 18:49 |
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| reed | tim___, yep :) you can use grep -i to filter | 18:51 |
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| reed | tim___, I'd start with dmesg | grep -i firmware | 18:51 |
| tim___ | pci 0000:00:1f.0: [Firmware Bug]: TigerPoint LPC.BM_STS cleared | 18:52 |
| tim___ | ?? | 18:52 |
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| reed | doesn't sound the right one ... | 18:53 |
| tim___ | i typed it in correct | 18:54 |
| reed | http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=pci+0000%3A00%3A1f.0%3A+[Firmware+Bug]%3A+TigerPoint+LPC.BM_STS+cleared&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 | 18:54 |
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| reed | tim___, look at this one here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1689148&page=3 | 18:56 |
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| tim___ | i think i found a script to fix it | 18:58 |
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| tim___ | brb | 18:58 |
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| joker_ | Will the Official release be faster than the dev ed? | 19:03 |
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| Stskeeps | no, DE is more optimized | 19:04 |
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| tim___ | the script didnt work | 19:05 |
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| * CosmoHill blinks when he realises the modern hard drives have the same speed RAM as his old desktop | 19:37 | |
| CosmoHill | (DDR400) | 19:37 |
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| niala1 | hi | 19:48 |
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| lcuk | hi niala1 | 19:48 |
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| lcuk | CosmoHill, lol | 19:48 |
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| gabor | hi | 19:49 |
| gabor | do u know if i can try out meego by using a bootable pendrive? | 19:50 |
| gabor | on my laptop | 19:50 |
| akk | gabor: Yes, that works. | 19:50 |
| slonopotamus | you can try definitely | 19:50 |
| gabor | and i can do it via unetbootin? | 19:50 |
| akk | The meego images can just be dd'ed -- you don't need unetbootin. | 19:50 |
| akk | much easier than ubuntu images | 19:50 |
| gabor | but if i dd the iso | 19:50 |
| akk | that's the iso | 19:51 |
| gabor | i only have to copy the content? | 19:51 |
| gabor | to the pendrive | 19:51 |
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| akk | right. There's a page somewhere, but I'm having trouble finding it. | 19:52 |
| gabor | i googled before coming here but didnt find anything | 19:52 |
| gabor | except for unetbootin | 19:52 |
| akk | https://meego.com/devices/netbook/installing-meego-your-netbook | 19:52 |
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| gabor | omg thank u | 19:54 |
| gabor | i thought i've read all that page | 19:54 |
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| BluesLee | who is talking there, sf meego meeting? | 19:56 |
| lcuk | http://sf2011.meego.com/program/sessions/meego-12-developer-edition-nokia-n900 | 19:57 |
| lcuk | http://sf2011.meego.com/program/live-streaming | 19:57 |
| iekku | jukka eklund, i think | 19:57 |
| BluesLee | the name is not mentioned | 19:58 |
| iekku | i don't see the stream or speach | 19:58 |
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| BluesLee | in the pdf there are 5 names, okay the first one is jukka | 19:58 |
| dm8tbr | yeah, that's jukka on stage | 19:59 |
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| BluesLee | hehe, its says "about the presenter" but no name, also on the program there is only the title of the talk | 19:59 |
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| Stskeeps | #meegoconf | 20:00 |
| boss` | Stskeeps: Error: "meegoconf" is not a valid command. | 20:00 |
| BluesLee | now i only have to understand his english:-) | 20:00 |
| BluesLee | just a joke, my english is worse | 20:01 |
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| zehjotkah | is stskeeps online even if he is on the stage? | 20:13 |
| Stskeeps | indeed | 20:13 |
| zehjotkah | :D | 20:13 |
| Stskeeps | taking questions | 20:13 |
| BluesLee | Stskeeps: the guy on the right side with ethe netbook? | 20:13 |
| zehjotkah | yes | 20:14 |
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| Stskeeps | BluesLee: yes | 20:14 |
| timsamoff | The netbook is for porn. Stskeeps has an IRC chip embedded in his head. | 20:14 |
| thiago | Stskeeps: wave :) | 20:14 |
| zehjotkah | xD | 20:14 |
| Stskeeps | people pointed me out, good enough | 20:14 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:14 |
| zehjotkah | don't made him laugh, don't make him laugh! | 20:14 |
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| BluesLee | Stskeeps: is there a real chance that the maemo community will switch to meego on a daily basis? do you or some other guys on the stage use meego on the n900 on adaily basis? | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | BluesLee: #meegoconf please | 20:17 |
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| Ronksu | hmm, there's a wlan called "free viruses" @ meegoconf ballroom A :) | 20:20 |
| CosmoHill | that should be "viri" | 20:21 |
| thiago | not really | 20:21 |
| thiago | "viri" is the plural of the masculine noun "vir" | 20:22 |
| thiago | it means "men" (plural of man) | 20:22 |
| thiago | "virus" is not a 2nd-declension word, it's a neuter word ending in -us with no attested plural in Latin | 20:22 |
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| * CosmoHill shakes fist at wikipedia | 20:24 | |
| thiago | actually, it is 2nd-declension: http://www.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wordz.pl?keyword=virus | 20:24 |
| thiago | http://www.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wordz.pl?keyword=viri | 20:25 |
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| thiago | note how the latter doesn't list as "NOM P" (nominative plural) | 20:26 |
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| jykae | yeah, n900 DE rocks in san francisco \o/ | 20:35 |
| iekku | \o/ | 20:35 |
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| lcuk | how would bug 13084 be solved | 21:35 |
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| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13084 maj, Medium, ---, carsten, ASSI, [n900] Horizontal tearing with xvimagesink | 21:35 |
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| lcuk | to even attempt to do it will require obs hmm | 21:36 |
| ar | what was "obs"? | 21:36 |
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| lcuk | it is like png but with different letters | 21:37 |
| lcuk | OpenSuse Build Service | 21:38 |
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| X-Fade | lol :) | 21:39 |
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| lcuk | X-Fade, \o | 21:41 |
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| X-Fade | Lots of familiar faces at the QtQuick 2.0 talk.. | 21:44 |
| berndhs | the png guy is useful if you don't have enough content for your talk | 21:44 |
| RST38h | Are there slides? | 21:44 |
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| X-Fade | It is presented as a qml app :) | 21:45 |
| RST38h | omg | 21:45 |
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| lardman | hey X-Fade and we all thought you were MIA ;) | 21:47 |
| X-Fade | lardman: nah, just busy at work. | 21:47 |
| X-Fade | And some sight seeing in SF of course. | 21:48 |
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| lardman | X-Fade: I know that feeling, hope you're enjoying it | 21:48 |
| X-Fade | Oh, no problem on the enjoyment part :) | 21:49 |
| lardman | cool, well I hope to catch up for some beers in the Autumn, assuming something happens then | 21:49 |
| lardman | I WILL make room in my diary! :) | 21:50 |
| X-Fade | Cool :) | 21:53 |
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| lcuk | X-Fade, I expect by autumn to have meego beer delivery via autonomous helicopter! | 21:53 |
| lardman | ah, so we're going for aircraft control systems not just marine now ;) | 21:54 |
| RST38h | meegocopter, piloted by live meegons | 21:55 |
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| X-Fade | I'm pretty sure there will be beer. But I don't intend to chop of heads there :) | 21:56 |
| lardman | good, I won't have to pack my suit of armour, will save on baggage costs | 21:58 |
| SpeedEvil | I have a design for a hoverboard, which could run meego. It's a little silly - 30Kg of lithium-ion cells, and a hundred kilowatts of motors. :) | 22:01 |
| RST38h | Speed: all steaming with liquid helium I guess? | 22:01 |
| SpeedEvil | Naah. | 22:01 |
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