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| jrayhawk | They'll probably be getting rid of the last vestiges of the BKL pretty soon, so 3.0 would make sense. | 00:40 |
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| javispedro | "I remember hearing somewhere that Linus said if he ever changed the first number, it meant he had snapped and rewritten it in Python." | 01:36 |
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| ahkok | vala, haskell, perl, brainf... | 01:37 |
| javispedro | sounds like my resume already | 01:38 |
| ahkok | hmm, I should finish my slides for tomorrow | 01:38 |
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| TomnyrKray | Justin Bieber is the newest singing sensation in the Americas. Music industry big wigs have compared him to Michael Jackson for his soulful singing and Elvis Presley for his looks and moves.Born in Stratford, Ontario in Canada on March 1, 1994, Justin Drew Bieber has quickly become the teenage heart throb for 2009. Before he was famous, Justin Bieber enjoyed playing sports - especially hockey because he's from Canada.His par | 01:55 |
| TomnyrKray | ents were young when they had him, and broke up when he was a young child. Many of Justin Bieber's friends growing up didn't even know he could sing - he didn't exactly advertise it.Justin used to sit outside a theatre in Stratford Ontario, famous for the Shakespeare Festival, and play the guitar and sing for crowds that would gather.He always had either one of his grandparents or mom with him as he was too young to hang out | 01:55 |
| TomnyrKray | there alone.Bieber had many videos of himself singing at various venues on youtube - his mom videotaped all his performances along the way. When people would call and | 01:55 |
| TomnyrKray | ask about managing his career, his mom was reluctant because of the horror stories everyone hears about young stars.Justin was discovered singing on youtube.com by his agent, who quickly arranged for him to fly to Georgia to meet with Usher. Just a short time later, theyoung star, who has two top tens on youtube, signed with Island Records.Bieber not only does vocals, but also plays the keyboards, piano, guitar, drums and ev | 01:55 |
| TomnyrKray | en the trumpet. Even more amazingly, he is self-taught - a true born talent. His first single, "One Time" reached 12 on the Canadian billboards and is rising on the Billboard Top 100. He is currently doing a radio tour to promote both his single and his debut album scheduled to be released in November 2009.Justin presented an award to Taylor Swift at the MTV Video Music Awards in 2009. He will also accompany Swift on two of | 01:55 |
| TomnyrKray | her UK tours to promote Bieber's music. He starred on MuchMusic in Canada on numerous occasions and in October of 2009, he performed several songs on the Today Show fo | 01:55 |
| TomnyrKray | ra U.S. audience.Justin is extremely popular with tweens and teenage girls due to his enormous talent and boyish good looks. If his debut single is any indication of his future, his album will almost certainly be very successful. Bieber is also expected to star on True Jackson, VP later in 2009.Update: Justin's overseas concert was just canceled (April 2010) as a rumor said he'd arrived early, which caused young girls at the | 01:55 |
| TomnyrKray | concert to become crazed and start pushing. Several girls were sent to the hospital, although most just hyperventilated. One girl had a leg or ankle injury as a result of the mob over Bieber.It took a long time for him to get where he is today, and he worked just as hard, if not harder, than all of the other celebrities to get where he is now. And as Justin said "My world got very big, very fast, and based on some sad examp | 01:55 |
| TomnyrKray | les from the past, a lot of people expect me to get lost in it." but he is not. Justin continues to come up with new ideas to turn into songs that drive his fansthe qu | 01:56 |
| TomnyrKray | estion he gets asked the most is, �how did you get where you are now, and how do you stay grounded?�His mom was very young when she had him and his parents (Pattie Mallette and Jeremy Bieber) broke up when he was ten months old. Because his mom was always working very hard to make a living for Justin and her, Justin would spend a lot of time at his grandparent�s house. Justin went to elemetary school at Jeanne Sauv� | 01:56 |
| TomnyrKray | Catholic School, and learned to speak both French and English because his school was a French intermission school, and he played on a hocky team with English speaking teammates. Growing up in Canada, his two best friends were, and still are, Chaz Somers and Ryan Butler.Justin�s interest in music started at a very young age. He started to teach himself how to play the drums at age six, ( not that he was any good, yet) and w | 01:56 |
| TomnyrKray | ould bang on anything he could find: school desks, tables, or pots and pans. That was also when he started to play the piano and guitar. Pretty soon all his "noise" started to s | 01:56 |
| TomnyrKray | oundlike something. The summer after he turned six his mom finally gave in and got him a drum set of his own. And, even though he was to scared to admit it at school, music was always in his heart.Things really got started for Justin in eighth grade. That was when his mom got a call from the school district. They said that they had gotten a phone call from someone trying to contact Justin and his mom. this "someone was "Scoo | 01:56 |
| TomnyrKray | ter" (Scott) Braun. They gave Justins mom Scooter�s number. Pattie didn�t call back, but eventually Scooter found them. Scooter was intrested in helping Justin get heard, after seeing a couple of his YouTube videos. Scooter won Pattie over, and Justin and his mom boarded their verry first plain to Atlanta, Georgain the US in 2007. That was when Scooter tried to hook Justin up with Usher. The first time Justin saw him he | 01:56 |
| TomnyrKray | ran up and got all ecited. "Hey, Usher! Hey, man! Oh, man, i love you! Can i sing for you?" Usher was in a hurry and said nicely hedidn�t have the time, (but on the inside | 01:56 |
| TomnyrKray | he was probably like, �Wow, man who is this kid, and why is he acting so weird?�) Usher and Justin didn�t see eachother untill a year later. That was when he finally got to sing for him. Usher thoJustin set up a Twitter acount, and tweeted his few fans he had at that time to keep them updated. he continued to post YouTube vidios, that just keept getting bigger, thanks to Scotter and Usher. He starsed going and perform | 01:56 |
| TomnyrKray | ing at small events, and when he went, each time, more and more girls would appeare to cheer him on. Justin just didn�t "get famous" out of the blue. He was there, trying his hardest, even years before we knew he exsisted. but his fans are the real reson he is where he is now. that and his will to keep going. no matterhow hard it was, or how long it was untill he felt he was going someplace, he stayed strong. He didn�t g | 01:56 |
| TomnyrKray | ive up. NEVER SAY NEVER.But where is justin now? He still lives in antlanta georga. He has written lots of songs, and has two C.Ds.( My World and My World 2.0) He is curently da | 01:57 |
| TomnyrKray | ting Selena Gomez, star of disney channals Wizards of Waverly Place, and famous singer. (this is upseting lots of fans) He writen a book about hs life, First Step 2 Forever. He has a movie also, Never Say Never. And who knows what he'll do next?If Justin did it, why cant we? Justin shows us thst even a boy like him, from a small town in Canada, can pursue his dreams if he has the courage. It wasent easy, but he did it. This | 01:57 |
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| TomnyrKray | is how he got where he is today. This is how he stayed strong. It started with only one thing. Just one small thing that kept him going. A dream.Justin Bieber is the newest singing sensation in the Americas. Music industry big wigs have compared him to Michael Jackson for his soulful singing and Elvis Presley for his looks and moves.Justin Bieber is the newest singing sensation in the Americas. Music industry big wigs have c | 01:57 |
| TomnyrKray | ompared him to Michael Jackson for his soulful singing and Elvis Presley for his looks and moves.Born in Stratford, Ontario in Canada on March 1, 1994, Justin Drew Bie | 01:57 |
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| ahkok | sigh | 01:57 |
| Ronksu | ah, good to have someone with ops awake. | 01:58 |
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| psycho_oreos | I was about to ping all the ops in the channel | 01:58 |
| * CosmoHill would like to point out that if he was op that dude would have been banned 3 times by now | 01:58 | |
| MohammadAG | we're all in #meegoconf :P | 01:59 |
| ahkok | CosmoHill, just ping me ;) | 01:59 |
| CosmoHill | I'd rather just ban him | 01:59 |
| psycho_oreos | +q ftw ;) | 01:59 |
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| Myrtti | JUSTIIIINNNNNN BIEBBBERRRR | 02:19 |
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| ahkok | Qt: Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed | 02:50 |
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| ahkok | Loaded the MeeGo sensor plugin | 02:50 |
| ahkok | ERROR: "Could not get owner of name 'com.nokia.SensorService': no such name" | 02:50 |
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| ahkok | Qt breaking chromium in trunk :( | 02:51 |
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| karname | Hello , I flashed my n900 with meego i eMMC mode , but when I powered on my cell , after seeing some command line , screen gone to black . also flasher can't detect my phone now ! how can I fix these problem ? | 09:04 |
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| ahkok | karname, please ask in #meego-arm | 09:06 |
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| guest | hihi ... i need some help with connman ... how principle dhcp should work with connman? I read since 0.55 it should have its one client and doesnt need dhclient or the one from busybox? | 09:07 |
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| ahkok | connman uses it's own builtin version of dhclient | 09:16 |
| karname | ahkok : there isn't any help to me ! | 09:17 |
| ahkok | connman has always worked with dhcp from the start | 09:17 |
| ahkok | karname, unlikely you will get help here then either... the n900 folks are more active there | 09:17 |
| karname | ahkok : means I should put my cell to trash !!! | 09:18 |
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| ahkok | karname: I didn't say that. | 09:18 |
| karname | when cell can't boot and can't flash , how can it work ! | 09:18 |
| ahkok | ask in #meego-arm, and wait for an answer | 09:19 |
| ahkok | you may have to wait a few hours for a reply | 09:19 |
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| guest | hmm but i currently have the problem that i didn't get an ip ... is there some config file were i have to enable dhcp? | 09:23 |
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| idontsleep | san francisco meego conference | 09:43 |
| idontsleep | anybody went? | 09:43 |
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| maggie | HI I m running meego IVI-1.1. on intel atom board, everythn works fine except the initial boot screen I get a black screen saying boot instead of the meego boot menu.. can someone help | 10:10 |
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| maggie | I cant see the boot splash screen while running meego on my intel atom hardware , however after selecting linux0 manually by typing i can boot it file, can some one help on how to get boot splash screen | 10:22 |
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| Termana | morning | 10:24 |
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| tomeu | maggie: something wrong in /boot/grub/menu.lst ? | 10:36 |
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| maggie | tomeu: am using the kickstart file given at meego repo., will moidying the ks file help me? | 10:37 |
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| tomeu | I'm not sure, depends on how /boot/grub/menu.lst gets created, it could come in a rpm, or could be generated at that point (in the .ks) | 10:38 |
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| tomeu | I'm not 100% sure meego images usually use grub, btw | 10:39 |
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| maggie | my boot grub contains just sppalsh.xpm.gz no mebu list | 10:42 |
| tomeu | hold on, I'm booting my meego device | 10:43 |
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| tomeu | seems to be /boot/extlinux/extlinux.conf | 10:44 |
| maggie | let me check | 10:44 |
| tomeu | I would grep the mic-image-creator sources for "extlinux" | 10:46 |
| tomeu | and read the code | 10:46 |
| tomeu | google found this: | 10:47 |
| tomeu | http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-developer-tools/image-creator/blobs/1fc62bd6e67235eebddeff3e031bdf2c57bb62e8/mic/appcreate/appliance.py#line210 | 10:47 |
| tomeu | but I don't know if that corresponds with what you are running | 10:47 |
| maggie | seems it should opy slash.jpg in /boot/extlinux which it is not | 10:50 |
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| maggie | tomeu can u tell me if the file syslinux-vesa-splash.jpg is present on ur system? | 11:01 |
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| tomeu | maggie: not in /boot | 11:04 |
| tomeu | maggie: keep reading that link, below it creates extlinux.conf | 11:04 |
| maggie | I mean on the system on which u create the image | 11:04 |
| tomeu | ah, I'm not creating any images, sorry | 11:04 |
| tomeu | just have some past experience from fedora's kickstart, on which mic seems to be based | 11:05 |
| maggie | k thanks | 11:05 |
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| chem|st | ~seen andre_ | 11:55 |
| infobot | andre_ <~andre@p5B073325.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 21d 8h 26m 47s ago, saying: 'but cant find in sequeeze'. | 11:55 |
| chem|st | ~seen andre | 11:56 |
| infobot | andre <~andre@berlin-gw.trolltech.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #meego, 47d 16h 5m 12s ago, saying: 'thiago: am I the only one associating "breakthrough device" with "crowbar"?'. | 11:56 |
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| mece | Where is part 2 of the "Keynote: Jim Zemlin, The Future of MeeGo Starts Now"? | 13:31 |
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| chem|st | mece: where are all the other recordings?! | 13:37 |
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| chem|st | mece: it is a shame to not have all sessions recorded | 13:38 |
| chem|st | community is again who has time and can afford the meeting! | 13:39 |
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| mece | chem|st, perhaps they will appear later. | 13:40 |
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| mece | chem|st, Zemlin seems like a pretty cool guy btw :) | 13:40 |
| chem|st | no they do not even appear on the livestream schedule | 13:41 |
| chem|st | he is, one of the best choices ever made for a TLF CEO | 13:41 |
| toninikk1nen | yesterday people in twitter were whining that he gives boring speeches :) | 13:42 |
| chem|st | and he speaks properly without many "ehms,ehrms" | 13:42 |
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| chem|st | toninikk1nen: people not interessted in the backend of anything find it boring for sure | 13:43 |
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| bkalinga | where can see Meego SDK documentation | 13:50 |
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| eg81 | http://wiki.meego.com/SDK/Docs/1.2 ? | 13:53 |
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| bkalinga | nothing comes with the sdk 1.2 to the local machine | 13:56 |
| bkalinga | let say i want see MImEngineWordsInterface class declaration and its usage | 13:56 |
| bkalinga | where is the best place to look at | 13:57 |
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| obcecado | hello, anyone else having issues running meego-netbook-ia32-1.2.0.img on a vm ? | 14:39 |
| obcecado | running on xen @ fedora core 15 | 14:40 |
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| lcuk | obcecado, just ask your question | 15:11 |
| obcecado | i get the grup bootsplash | 15:11 |
| obcecado | but, i cant liveboot or install | 15:12 |
| lcuk | obcecado, it may be related to the graphics card exposed to your vm? | 15:13 |
| * lcuk is not sure though | 15:13 | |
| lcuk | and potentially the cpu too | 15:13 |
| lcuk | http://wiki.meego.com/Supported_Processors | 15:14 |
| obcecado | i tried c2d | 15:14 |
| obcecado | and atom emulation | 15:14 |
| obcecado | let me set a different graphics card | 15:14 |
| lcuk | have you tried something like, putting it onto a usb stick and booting on that machine natively | 15:15 |
| lcuk | (you can boot/run without installing) | 15:15 |
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| obcecado | the reason im trying it inside a VM, is because i dont have any usb media around | 15:15 |
| lcuk | ok was just suggesting | 15:16 |
| * lcuk has numerous usb sticks around | 15:17 | |
| lcuk | the best conference one is on my car keys | 15:17 |
| obcecado | also tried following this hints: http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_1.0_Netbook_VirtualBox | 15:17 |
| lcuk | meego one :D | 15:17 |
| obcecado | i really want to try it out, so i decide wheter to install it on my n900 | 15:17 |
| lcuk | different kettle of fish | 15:18 |
| lcuk | netbook ux is not the same as handset ux is not the same as tablet ux | 15:18 |
| obcecado | the system architecture cant differ that much | 15:18 |
| lcuk | if you have a 4gb+ MicroSD, it is the simplest way to use on your n900 | 15:18 |
| lcuk | and that is complementary to Maemo at this point | 15:19 |
| lcuk | ie once you reboot from meego and boot backup, maemo is there | 15:19 |
| lcuk | obcecado, the User Experience (UX) can | 15:19 |
| obcecado | i guess i'll wait till systemd is enabled on meego, so i try it out | 15:21 |
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| lcuk | yoyoyo, does anybody know where VNC viewer for meego might be located? | 15:39 |
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| bkalinga | http://pastebin.com/tgTnm3ZH | 16:07 |
| bkalinga | error while using gdb with a unit test application that uses serviceframework | 16:07 |
| bkalinga | i can see qDebug output for a function but gdb is not breaking there | 16:08 |
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| thiago | looks like gdb is broken | 16:10 |
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| tomeu | setting the breakpoint by specifying the file and line number doesn't work either? | 16:13 |
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| siddvicious | cannot install meego sdk | 18:02 |
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| siddvicious | any help >> http://pastebin.kde.org/74125/ | 18:03 |
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| eg81 | siddvicious: are you using ubuntu 11.04 ? | 18:04 |
| siddvicious | fedora 15 | 18:04 |
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| eg81 | sorry but only Fedora 13, 14 are supported | 18:06 |
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| siddvicious | oops | 18:06 |
| siddvicious | and opensuse 11.4 ? | 18:06 |
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| eg81 | bug 17696 | 18:07 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17696 nor, Medium, 1.3, xu.u.zhang, ASSI, Build of SDK Host tools fails for openSUSE 11.4 | 18:07 |
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| eg81 | siddvicious: check http://developer.meego.com/meego-sdk/release-notes/meego-1.2-sdk-release-notes, here's a list what hosts are supported | 18:10 |
| siddvicious | eg81: thnx a lot :) | 18:11 |
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| * CosmoHill is downloading fedora 15 atm | 18:12 | |
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| slaine | CosmoHill: it runs really well on my Mini 9 | 18:24 |
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| CosmoHill | I dowloaded to uni at 18MB/s | 18:29 |
| CosmoHill | now need to get it from uni to my laptop | 18:29 |
| CosmoHill | I also go meego to try on my new desktop :D | 18:29 |
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| slaine | Does anyone know if buttons on the LCD panel from the Ideapad from dubconf can be activated ? | 18:30 |
| slaine | There's 3 buttons on the left of the screen, one is the volume mute button | 18:31 |
| slaine | the other two look like rotate button and a touchscreen button | 18:31 |
| Greatgib | slaine: the mute button works without problem | 18:31 |
| slaine | Greatgib: Yeah, I'm interested in the other two though | 18:31 |
| slaine | xev doesnt's how any key events | 18:32 |
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| Greatgib | slaine: for the other two, they are not yet supported, but someone started to study the acpi to find how to use it | 18:32 |
| Greatgib | slaine: they are not normal key | 18:32 |
| slaine | nod | 18:32 |
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| Greatgib | slaine: but i'm sorry , i don't find anymore the webpage of the people that try to use it :s | 18:35 |
| slaine | thanks anyway | 18:35 |
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| Greatgib | maybe I could find it tonight in my computer at home :) in that case, i will ping you here tomorrow :) | 18:35 |
| slaine | cheers, I'll have a google in a moment and see if I can spot anything | 18:35 |
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| lcuk | running the tablet UX on n900-de, should the panels wrap around? | 18:50 |
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| slaine | lcuk: I don't think so | 18:59 |
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| slaine | I tried it a few mins ago on the ideapad and when you scroll right far enough it stops and you've to scroll back | 19:00 |
| lcuk | slaine, yeah | 19:01 |
| lcuk | that was my ponderment | 19:01 |
| lcuk | whether or how would it be feasible to actually make them wrap | 19:02 |
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| timoph | o/ | 19:02 |
| lcuk | \o | 19:02 |
| slaine | that would make it a carousel though, not sure it makes sense. | 19:02 |
| lcuk | just submitted bug 18078 | 19:02 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18078 nor, Undecided, ---, james.ausmus, RESO DUPLICATE, [N900 DE Tablet] Clock on Panels View is positioned offscreen | 19:02 |
| lcuk | slaine, just raising the question really | 19:02 |
| lcuk | conversation etc | 19:02 |
| slaine | nod | 19:02 |
| lcuk | that was fast | 19:03 |
| lcuk | lots of dupes of that | 19:04 |
| * lcuk searched too | 19:04 | |
| lcuk | timoph, on the ITP page | 19:04 |
| lcuk | I added link to your repo | 19:04 |
| timoph | ok | 19:04 |
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| lcuk | but I cannot remember how to do the "zypper ar ..." bit properly | 19:04 |
| lcuk | ahh no wonder | 19:05 |
| timoph | ar url name | 19:05 |
| lcuk | I missed the repo name | 19:05 |
| lcuk | yeah | 19:05 |
| ar | timoph: ? | 19:05 |
| lcuk | lol | 19:05 |
| ar | timoph: why are you highlighting me? | 19:05 |
| timoph | ar: :D | 19:05 |
| lcuk | ar, "zypper ar url name" add repo command | 19:06 |
| timoph | ar: was referencing zypper ar :) | 19:06 |
| ar | lol | 19:06 |
| * timoph is listening lbt talking about vendor tools | 19:07 | |
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| Vertigo_ | So, | 19:18 |
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| Vertigo_ | Is it worth it to install Meego on my N900? | 19:18 |
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| lcuk | ooh bug 18081 | 19:34 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18081 nor, Undecided, ---, connie.berardi, NEW, [DE] Cannot "Add a contact" | 19:34 |
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| iekku | hello | 19:37 |
| CosmoHill | it boots \o/ | 19:37 |
| SpeedEvil | hello | 19:37 |
| CosmoHill | I've been in this chatroom for over a year and this is the first time I've been able to boot MeeGo :D | 19:38 |
| berndhs | i'm gonna make an ebook reader, i dont like the other ones | 19:38 |
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| berndhs | for desktop and tablet | 19:39 |
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| * SpeedEvil hugs fbreader. | 19:39 | |
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| SpeedEvil | (mostly) | 19:39 |
| berndhs | people who say they read books on their phones are liars :) | 19:39 |
| iekku | CosmoHill, what? | 19:39 |
| SpeedEvil | berndhs: I can give you a list of books I've read on my phone. | 19:39 |
| SpeedEvil | It's probably about 150 long. | 19:39 |
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| lcuk | berndhs, I have spent many an hour reading digitally | 19:39 |
| CosmoHill | iekku: I got a new motherboard today with an Intel 4500 graphics card that works with meego | 19:40 |
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| * lcuk even wrote own book reader :P | 19:40 | |
| SpeedEvil | 184 meg. | 19:40 |
| CosmoHill | this is the first meego compatable computer I've had | 19:40 |
| berndhs | yeah but on a phone? I need more than that much page space | 19:40 |
| SpeedEvil | berndhs: For fiction? | 19:40 |
| lcuk | berndhs, my n810 was great | 19:40 |
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| lcuk | my n900 too | 19:40 |
| SpeedEvil | That's what the 'next page' is for. | 19:40 |
| SpeedEvil | You don't actually need the page layout. | 19:40 |
| * lcuk has kinetics and autoscroll | 19:40 | |
| berndhs | layout no, but page content, I look back and forth in the text | 19:40 |
| SpeedEvil | For fiction, it's fine - IME. | 19:41 |
| berndhs | and when it gets boring and simple I read large sections at a time | 19:41 |
| SpeedEvil | I use around 15 lines per page. | 19:41 |
| CosmoHill | my god....the meego intro video is freaking awesome | 19:41 |
| lcuk | SpeedEvil, landscape or portrait? | 19:41 |
| berndhs | perhaps its a different skill, reading with a smaller text window | 19:41 |
| SpeedEvil | landscape | 19:41 |
| lcuk | i cannot book read in landscape | 19:42 |
| * SpeedEvil read a _lot_ of text on 80x24 | 19:42 | |
| lcuk | though I had to for a time on n810 | 19:42 |
| jausmus | :) | 19:42 |
| SpeedEvil | Let's just say I googled my usenet post history, and it exceded 50000 by a comfortable margin. | 19:42 |
| berndhs | well, I'll do phone later when I actually have a device :) | 19:43 |
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| berndhs | the Qt people say its really easy to just make another UI | 19:44 |
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| Venemo_N900 | berndhs, what do you mean? | 19:47 |
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| berndhs | UI for books, I dont know if that is similar to tablet for ebook-reader | 19:52 |
| berndhs | and currently there is no common API | 19:52 |
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| Venemo_N900 | mhm | 19:54 |
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| akk | API for e.g. reading epub and displaying it as text? | 19:55 |
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| berndhs | epub and pdf yes | 19:55 |
| berndhs | but for the rest of it, how to get to displaying the text | 19:56 |
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| berndhs | author index, book index, toc, and what not | 19:56 |
| akk | Has fbreader been ported yet? | 19:56 |
| berndhs | the surrounding stuff is probably different for phones and tablets | 19:57 |
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| berndhs | akk: someone has an fbreader.spec on build.pub.meego.com | 19:58 |
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| TrollMaster | hi | 20:43 |
| * TrollMaster wonders what meego is | 20:43 | |
| TrollMaster | hrmm...is this thing on? | 20:44 |
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| Stskeeps | TrollMaster: www.meego.com | 20:44 |
| TrollMaster | nice site | 20:44 |
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| TrollMaster | still don't quite get it | 20:46 |
| Stskeeps | read the description on the page :) it is a platform to build products on | 20:46 |
| TrollMaster | like iOS ? | 20:47 |
| Stskeeps | not a platform | 20:47 |
| TrollMaster | like .net ? | 20:47 |
| Stskeeps | sortof | 20:47 |
| Stskeeps | so, are you here to troll? | 20:47 |
| lcuk | iOS is a platform | 20:47 |
| TrollMaster | huh ? | 20:47 |
| TrollMaster | like linux ? | 20:47 |
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| TrollMaster | but for small things, like a TV ? | 20:47 |
| Stskeeps | for all sorts of things | 20:48 |
| TrollMaster | maybe my can opener ? | 20:48 |
| lcuk | TrollMaster, MeeGo is a focued Linux distro aimed at various use cases | 20:48 |
| lcuk | focused | 20:48 |
| TrollMaster | ok gotcha | 20:48 |
| TrollMaster | but would it work on, say a calculator ? | 20:48 |
| TrollMaster | or more like a 2015 Ford ? | 20:48 |
| CosmoHill | lcuk: MeeGo 1.2 works on my new desktop | 20:48 |
| lcuk | CosmoHill, sure thing | 20:49 |
| lcuk | TrollMaster, what cpu does your calculator have? | 20:49 |
| TrollMaster | CosmoHill: Have you run it on an iPad ? | 20:49 |
| TrollMaster | or iPhone ? | 20:50 |
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| Stskeeps | TrollMaster: i believe you are trolling, please leave | 20:50 |
| * TrollMaster is this thing on? | 20:50 | |
| TrollMaster | Stskeeps: huh ? | 20:50 |
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| lcuk | I would ask why we don't have people putting meego on ipad/iphone etc | 20:56 |
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| GAN900 | lcuk, because who the hell would want that? | 20:57 |
| lcuk | GAN900, the same folks who put linux on it | 20:57 |
| GAN900 | lcuk, that was the iPhone 3G. | 20:57 |
| lcuk | there is a linux toaster ux | 20:57 |
| lcuk | GAN900, so where is meego on the iphone 3g? | 20:57 |
| lcuk | has anyone tried? | 20:57 |
| * lcuk does not have an iphone to play with | 20:58 | |
| GAN900 | Who cares? It's years out of date? | 20:58 |
| lcuk | but I could get one I suppose | 20:58 |
| GAN900 | Do you want MeeGo on your N800? | 20:58 |
| lcuk | GAN900, Stskeeps is building MeeGo on his dads computer for the n8x0 right now | 20:58 |
| lcuk | so, yeah I would | 20:58 |
| GAN900 | Why don't we put MeeGo on something that's actually semi-modern and feasible? | 20:58 |
| lcuk | but the iphone has decent hardware doesn't it? | 20:59 |
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| lcuk | GAN900, that is happening isn't it? | 20:59 |
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| lcuk | but there are enough people around to hack and put stuff on different devices | 20:59 |
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| GAN900 | Not for long if we don't get some real devices and some real software. | 21:01 |
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| * CosmoHill wonders how smug the person who uses MeeGo on an iPad would be | 21:01 | |
| GAN900 | Not very. | 21:01 |
| zehjotkah | good morning | 21:01 |
| Stskeeps | morn zehjotkah | 21:01 |
| lcuk | CosmoHill, GAN900 I am only interested in seeing like for like | 21:02 |
| lcuk | to get comparable benchmarks | 21:02 |
| Venemo_N900 | heh | 21:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | esp not for long if you kickban lurkers that ask rather normal questions | 21:02 |
| lcuk | "Oh, meego manages to do XYZ 2x faster than equivilent ipad software on same hardware | 21:02 |
| Venemo_N900 | I would actually buy an N8x0 if it could run MeeGo | 21:02 |
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| Stskeeps | frals: we didnt have much in 1.2 | 21:04 |
| lcuk | frals, \o | 21:04 |
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| frals | lcuk: o/ | 21:04 |
| frals | Stskeeps: ye, from what i read the decision was to throw much out instead ;) | 21:05 |
| GAN900 | Sort of an odd stage for this discussion. | 21:05 |
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| zehjotkah | stskeeps: dneary is talking about you... | 21:12 |
| zehjotkah | irc bot and so on.. | 21:13 |
| Stskeeps | zehjotkah: good | 21:13 |
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| zehjotkah | anyone knows where Stephan Odörfer or Tore Meyer from 4tiitoo are atm? | 21:47 |
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| harbaum_ | Is it true that noone is actually presenting any community adaptations like beagle/panda/archos or the like in sfa? | 21:57 |
| dm8tbr | must resists $snarky_compliance_statement | 21:58 |
| harbaum_ | Is this because Nokia lost interest and intel also doesn't care for those non-x86 plattforms? Is there a TI booth or so? | 21:58 |
| harbaum_ | Ah, all those compliant devices one can buy ... | 21:59 |
| dm8tbr | http://sf2011.meego.com/sponsors - Don't see any silicon vendors on that list | 21:59 |
| dm8tbr | which means no stand | 21:59 |
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| dm8tbr | well Nokia introduced ARM into the game, if the 'MeeGo' Nokia device happens in numbers then there might be some minimal further push for ARM in MeeGo | 22:03 |
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| dm8tbr | if that does not happen then MeeGo on ARM is dead in the water | 22:03 |
| Venemo_N900 | dm8tbr, it is not dead | 22:04 |
| dm8tbr | Intel clearly dominates MeeGo and they have zarro interest in $other_arch | 22:04 |
| harbaum_ | Uhm ... there's some Nokia device? | 22:04 |
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| RST38h | dead unless there are real products with it | 22:04 |
| dm8tbr | Venemo_N900: notice that I put it in a conditional future tense | 22:04 |
| Venemo_N900 | there will be a harmattan device I think | 22:04 |
| Venemo_N900 | no actual meego device | 22:05 |
| Venemo_N900 | but who knows? | 22:05 |
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| dm8tbr | harbaum_: n900 is reference hardware and there is this rumored harmattan device aka Maemo6 with a MeeGo label | 22:05 |
| harbaum_ | From outside the summit sounds pretty silent. No excitement, nothing. What's wrong over there? | 22:05 |
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| harbaum_ | dm8tbr: Yeah, but that's still rumor | 22:05 |
| dm8tbr | correct | 22:06 |
| Venemo_N900 | yeah | 22:06 |
| zehjotkah | there will be a dev device from nokia running harmattan | 22:06 |
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| zehjotkah | with a keyboard | 22:06 |
| dm8tbr | zehjotkah: where is the official announcement? | 22:06 |
| zehjotkah | and there will be a consumer device around september | 22:06 |
| zehjotkah | without keyboard but with better hardware | 22:06 |
| dm8tbr | links to *.nokia.com or it didn't happen ;) | 22:07 |
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| zehjotkah | there is no official announcement^^ believe me or don't believe me, | 22:07 |
| zehjotkah | i don't care^^ | 22:07 |
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| lcuk | Venemo_N900, an interesting codebase to really see complexity would be the QML rendering flow | 22:07 |
| lcuk | do you know where that is embedded inside | 22:07 |
| harbaum_ | Ah, c'mon. How old with this N9/N950 hardware be by then? | 22:07 |
| dm8tbr | zehjotkah: name your source then | 22:07 |
| lcuk | ie, what is the starting point give na QML instance variable | 22:07 |
| lcuk | how does that get onto the screen | 22:07 |
| zehjotkah | why should I? | 22:08 |
| Venemo_N900 | lcuk, I've been wondering about that for a while | 22:08 |
| zehjotkah | they would get in trouble^^ | 22:08 |
| dm8tbr | zehjotkah: it would lend your rather bold statement some credibility | 22:08 |
| * dm8tbr calls BS | 22:08 | |
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| zehjotkah | i don't care if you believe it or not, as said | 22:08 |
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| lcuk | rumour and conjecture to #meego-bar please | 22:09 |
| lcuk | this is a general channel about official meego working and no place to speculate about individual vendors | 22:09 |
| harbaum_ | lcuk: So you want to close #meego ? | 22:09 |
| lcuk | certainly not harbaum_ | 22:09 |
| * lcuk adores the conversation on this channel when it gets started | 22:10 | |
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| harbaum_ | But there's few but rumors to talk about | 22:10 |
| lcuk | who *uses* meego devices (of any kind) now? | 22:10 |
| RST38h | Censoring people conversations is the best way to kill any conversation. | 22:10 |
| RST38h | <crickets> | 22:11 |
| lcuk | RST38h, not censoring, merely putting it where Stskeeps seems to think it belongs | 22:11 |
| lcuk | see /topic | 22:11 |
| harbaum_ | lcuk: Noone? I just gave up with the beagle boards and today sold one setup to a friend who runs angstrom on it | 22:11 |
| lcuk | I use my meego ideapad everyday | 22:11 |
| lcuk | as does the other members of my family | 22:11 |
| * dm8tbr runs 'mg' images on A5IT and N900 | 22:12 | |
| zehjotkah | I'm over at #meego-bar if anyone does have questions | 22:12 |
| lcuk | i am heavily testing n900-de | 22:12 |
| lcuk | but my slate runs happily | 22:12 |
| lcuk | for the usecase it is intended | 22:12 |
| lcuk | harbaum_, when I first met you in Helsinki | 22:12 |
| lcuk | the night before I was talking with Vlad | 22:12 |
| lcuk | and even though he spoke Russian | 22:13 |
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| lcuk | and we could not understand each other | 22:13 |
| lcuk | I explained the idea of liqbase to him and showed him a big one on the wall | 22:13 |
| lcuk | well, my ideapad has been sat in the corner of my eye now since I got it | 22:13 |
| lcuk | and everyone can see the stuff there :) | 22:13 |
| RST38h | lcuk: How much booze did you have before you started talking? =) | 22:13 |
| harbaum_ | :-) | 22:14 |
| lcuk | RST38h, we never used words | 22:14 |
| lcuk | raised a few glasses | 22:14 |
| lcuk | some gestures towards an area on the wall | 22:14 |
| * RST38h knew | 22:14 | |
| lcuk | more raised glasses etc | 22:14 |
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| lcuk | i waited 2 years to get a device capable of running it after seeing a prototype for a couple of days, so damn expensive :| | 22:16 |
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| lcuk | anyway, bbl | 22:17 |
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| timakima | any ops around? someones flooding #meego-fi | 22:21 |
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| dm8tbr | timakima: involve staff | 22:24 |
| dm8tbr | timakima: #freenode | 22:24 |
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| timakima | thanks, looks like he just left after 10 minutes of spamming. but i'll ask the staff next time he comes back | 22:25 |
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| * blauzahl redownloads it instead :P | 23:04 | |
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