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* Sage_ is attending to the intel appup. | 00:05 | |
lcuk | ended up 2.5x faster than before: 3816816641 bytes (3.8 GB) copied, 2382.24 s, 1.6 MB/s | 00:08 |
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tim___ | meego needs more support for the wifi cards | 00:08 |
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lcuk | tim___, *linux* needs more support for open source wifi card drivers. | 00:09 |
lcuk | (at least that is my understanding of this issue) | 00:09 |
lcuk | ie, this is not a meego problem but meego by default does not ship closed drivers | 00:10 |
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lcuk | (please someone correct me if I am wrong about this) | 00:10 |
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* Jay_BEE raises his hand in the Intel session to ask "what is RPM?" | 00:20 | |
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TSCHAKeee | rofl | 00:20 |
timeless_xchat | i can show this | 00:21 |
timeless_xchat | let me try this | 00:21 |
timeless_xchat | (error) | 00:21 |
timeless_xchat | oh, no, i can't | 00:21 |
Jay_BEE | heh. | 00:21 |
tim___ | i deffinately wont be using meego is doesnt wont to connect to the internet even with ethernet | 00:21 |
dsample | Hi. I've just installed an Ubuntu VM so I could install the MeeGo 1.2 SDK, but I'm getting loads of errors within the installer about processes crashing... anybody able to troubleshoot? | 00:22 |
timeless_xchat | jay_bee: now's your chance to ask about rpm :) | 00:22 |
Jay_BEE | lol...I doubt I will need to ask such inane questions | 00:23 |
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Jay_BEE | they may already be incoming from others present... | 00:23 |
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smoku | oh. how sweet. btrfs on my rootfs just fallen apart. kernel panics on trying to mount it | 00:28 |
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sofar | smoku: version? able to capture the screen? | 00:32 |
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ieatlint | well, i'm not as impressed with the meego 1.2 tablet release as i'd like … QAudioInput: "Unable to create a connection to the pulseaudio context" followed by a hung application | 00:35 |
ieatlint | unless there's a permission system i'm missing about meego | 00:36 |
smoku | sofar, 1.2 with 2.6.39 kernel. | 00:37 |
smoku | funny - booting 2.6.37.2 fixed it | 00:37 |
sofar | whut? 1.2 with 2.6.39? | 00:38 |
sofar | that does not compute :) | 00:38 |
ieatlint | those getting tablets from intel, note that they are provided with meego 1.1.90 (aka "1.2 pre-alpha"), and NOT the current 1.2 tablet developer preview as released may 17 here https://meego.com/downloads/releases/1.2/meego-tablet-developer-preview | 00:39 |
sofar | I didn't know there was nother giveaway | 00:39 |
sofar | luckily, I won't get one probably again :) | 00:39 |
ieatlint | which comes for me as "Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.38.2-8.12-adaptation-pinetrail #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon May 16 19:10:07 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux" | 00:39 |
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ieatlint | you either need to have one in hand now, or be watching an intel guy talk about the appup store to get one | 00:40 |
ieatlint | if you're not in the talk right now, you're SOL | 00:40 |
ieatlint | it's a decent talk otherwise :) | 00:40 |
Jay_BEE | agreed.... good questions this time around | 00:42 |
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ieatlint | the presenters know what they're talking about too | 00:42 |
Jay_BEE | but still itchin to ask "what does SDK stand for?" | 00:42 |
sofar | I work for intel... so | 00:42 |
ieatlint | ask about PNG | 00:42 |
sofar | no freebies lol | 00:42 |
sofar | ah well, I'll be around on the conference tomorrow | 00:43 |
smoku | sofar, you install 1.2 and then compile 2.6.39 on your own. is that something unbelievable? | 00:44 |
sofar | smoku: you didn't mention that. | 00:44 |
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sofar | if you want a newer kernel, why not get the one from trunk? it's at 39rc6 | 00:44 |
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smoku | sofar, because I'm testing a freezing wfi driver, and trunk does not contain my custom changes? :) | 00:45 |
sofar | which driver? | 00:45 |
smoku | libertas_sdio | 00:46 |
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sofar | ahhh the good old libertas | 00:46 |
sofar | sucks that it hangs | 00:46 |
smoku | it freezes my machine completely on loading the firmware :/ | 00:46 |
ieatlint | yeah, sadly the ability to connect to qtmultimediakit on the tablet 1.2 image is not present | 00:52 |
ieatlint | instead it just hangs the app :( | 00:52 |
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MohammadAG | who does? :P | 01:05 |
zehjotkah | many | 01:05 |
zehjotkah | yeah, already a lot | 01:05 |
zehjotkah | are you here Mohammad? | 01:06 |
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zehjotkah | anywhere in SF | 01:06 |
MohammadAG | sadly, nope :/ | 01:06 |
zehjotkah | :( | 01:06 |
zehjotkah | haven't you got sponsoring or haven't you asked? | 01:07 |
MohammadAG | I didn't ask, I have an exam on the 25th | 01:07 |
zehjotkah | understnad | 01:07 |
tim___ | meego sdk is erroring | 01:07 |
zehjotkah | good luck with your exam | 01:07 |
MohammadAG | thanks :) | 01:07 |
zehjotkah | :) | 01:07 |
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MohammadAG | zehjotkah, what harmattan devices btw? :P | 01:09 |
MohammadAG | only device I heard of today was the ExoPC | 01:09 |
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zehjotkah | originally it was planned that nokias harmattan dev device would be distributed at the conference | 01:10 |
zehjotkah | on monday or so | 01:10 |
zehjotkah | now they told me that they don't have enough devices | 01:10 |
zehjotkah | which is ridiculous | 01:10 |
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ShadowJK | if they want to get rid of them they could have a lottery | 01:15 |
ShadowJK | or bingo | 01:15 |
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timeless_xchat | sivang: what's that url i need? | 01:18 |
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lcuk_ | so I am using meego netbookk as a netbookk | 01:21 |
lcuk_ | and zones is pretty crap - with only 5 apps open, I can see so little of the titlebar that it is random which I am selecting | 01:22 |
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ShadowJK | my n900 > your netbook :D | 01:23 |
DocScrutinizer | :-D | 01:24 |
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lcuk_ | ShadowJK: my old n810, 2 years ago, 54: http://liqbase.net/liq.20090710_002210.lib.holymoly.png | 01:35 |
ShadowJK | dude my N900 froze trying to open that image | 01:36 |
lcuk_ | ShadowJK: yeah, I exported that differently to on screen | 01:37 |
lcuk_ | but apps worded fine just tiny thumbnails and some lag when zooming but otherwise fine | 01:37 |
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blauzahl | hey, is this the official meego conference channel? or is there another? | 01:56 |
lcuk | #meegoconf | 01:56 |
boss | lcuk: Error: "meegoconf" is not a valid command. | 01:56 |
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mikhas | kuzak, ping | 02:31 |
blauzahl | thanks lcuk! | 02:34 |
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lbt900 | \join #meegoconf | 03:35 |
mikeleib | lbt900: click your heals together three times and say "there's no place like #meegoconf" | 03:36 |
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b-man` | /join #meegoconf | 03:43 |
b-man` | err | 03:43 |
b-man` | fss damn client :P | 03:43 |
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iekku | :D | 03:43 |
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b-man` | lol | 03:44 |
lbt900 | nice to have company | 03:46 |
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TSCHAKeee | http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/228083_10150178407707115_716957114_7057091_7453341_n.jpg :D | 04:12 |
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sivang | hey all, I'm looking for the URL to where to submit another session, can anybody please paste it? | 04:23 |
sivang | google fails finding it, an sf2011.meego.com fails showing it to me :) | 04:23 |
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iekku | hmmm, silent channel | 05:02 |
akk | everybody's partying in SF, probably | 05:02 |
iekku | so am i :D | 05:02 |
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Myrtti | I'm just at the hotel room enjoying the evening sun and playing with my slides and LaTeX | 05:04 |
iekku | i'm laying at the bed, trying not to fall a sleep | 05:05 |
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sivang | re | 05:47 |
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pethams | how do i find out if the tablet is running the latest release? | 06:52 |
clbr | does /etc/meego-release help? | 06:53 |
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pethams | Ok. let me see if i can find something useful on /etc/meego-release. thanks clbr!! | 06:54 |
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pethams | Yes. That helps. mine is running 1.1.90 and there is a latest available ver 1.2. Thanks again. | 06:59 |
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Jay_BEE | re | 07:44 |
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bkalinga | p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; } Error during installation process(com.meego.sdk.targets.netbook.ia32.1_2_0): Execution failed (Unexpected exit code: 1): "/home/kalinga/.config/meego.com/sdk/tm/create_target.sh meego-netbook-ia32-1.2.0" | 07:52 |
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bkalinga | Can not find '/usr/lib/madde/linux-i686/cache/qt-tools-4.7.2-linux_i686.tar.gz' -- no such file. | 07:59 |
bkalinga | I am getting above error while installing MeeGo1.2 SDK | 07:59 |
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Myrtti | I just love geany | 08:19 |
Myrtti | can compile and display my slideset with two pushes of a button | 08:19 |
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Myrtti | beamer ♥ | 08:20 |
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ahkok | soffice all the way here | 08:20 |
Myrtti | bleh | 08:20 |
ahkok | lol | 08:20 |
mikeleib | blaf | 08:20 |
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ahkok | sorry, no QML here :P | 08:21 |
Myrtti | I wouldn't have it at all if I didn't have friends and colleagues who use silly formats | 08:21 |
Myrtti | ahkok: LaTeX ♥ | 08:21 |
ahkok | curse of working at intel | 08:21 |
thiago | mikeleib: gunnar made some slide elements for QML | 08:21 |
ahkok | 95% of the company uses microsoft office | 08:21 |
thiago | lars and gunnar will use it | 08:21 |
mikeleib | thiago: oh yah | 08:21 |
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mikeleib | where's teh code? | 08:22 |
thiago | erm, lars and jørgen | 08:22 |
mikeleib | my slide element is teh sux | 08:22 |
thiago | you'll have to ask jørgen tomorrow | 08:22 |
ahkok | mikeleib, when is your talk? | 08:22 |
mikeleib | tuesday morn | 08:22 |
thiago | his presentation has a nice twist though :) | 08:22 |
ahkok | I'm blessed with having a day tomorrow to finish them up too :) | 08:22 |
mikeleib | lars? | 08:22 |
thiago | lars is tuesday in the timeslot after yours | 08:22 |
bkalinga | anybody successfully installed 1.2 on ubuntu 10.04 | 08:22 |
thiago | in the big roo | 08:22 |
ahkok | ok, time for a beer, and then pack bags for tomorrow | 08:22 |
thiago | room | 08:23 |
mikeleib | aha | 08:23 |
ahkok | I'm suspecting that they booked me in the tiniest room on tuesday | 08:23 |
ahkok | Myrtti, are you attending the conference this time? | 08:23 |
mikeleib | I'm running against Min and at least a few other interested talks. Plus, everybody should be hung over from the night before | 08:24 |
mikeleib | iirc, Myrtti is speaking | 08:24 |
Myrtti | ahkok: I've got a BoF session on Tuesday :-) | 08:24 |
thiago | ahkok: you're in Bayview A-B, which is for 200 people | 08:24 |
thiago | the big room is 700; then there are 3 rooms for 200, then two of 110 | 08:24 |
mikeleib | is thiago having a good time? | 08:25 |
thiago | yeah, but also a jetlagged time | 08:25 |
ahkok | mikeleib, I'm right after your talk | 08:25 |
thiago | trying to stay awake so I don't fall asleep tomorrow during the welcome reception | 08:25 |
ahkok | ah | 08:25 |
ahkok | wow, 200 | 08:25 |
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mikeleib | ahkok: after my talk, whatever you do will have the audience excited | 08:26 |
thiago | you guys are not coming for the keynotes? | 08:26 |
ahkok | I'm on the 8am shuttle to SJC tomorrow morning | 08:27 |
ahkok | I doubt I'll be there by 11 | 08:27 |
thiago | in time for the free lunch then | 08:27 |
* mikeleib arrives in SFO at 9:30 | 08:27 | |
* mikeleib flies commercial :( | 08:27 | |
ahkok | SFO isn't bad | 08:27 |
ahkok | 40 minutes to downtown on the bart | 08:27 |
mikeleib | not as relaxing as HIO, though | 08:28 |
thiago | OSL is pretty good too | 08:28 |
ahkok | lol | 08:28 |
thiago | I've done my door-jetway gate in 55 minutes | 08:29 |
mikeleib | oddly enough, the copenhagen airport seemed outright cozy | 08:29 |
ahkok | mikeleib, just made a xchat rpm for MeeGo | 08:29 |
mikeleib | ?? | 08:29 |
mikeleib | emacs is already packaged.. irc client is included | 08:29 |
ahkok | no more empathy isc *g* | 08:29 |
ahkok | what is emacs? | 08:29 |
thiago | ahkok: wrong question | 08:29 |
mikeleib | it's that thing eating most of your ram | 08:29 |
thiago | the question is "what isn't emacs" | 08:29 |
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ahkok | thiago, easy answer: everything on this box ;) | 08:30 |
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* mikeleib #meego's via erc.. it's nice | 08:30 | |
ahkok | also, most of my ram is ... unused | 08:30 |
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mikeleib | insert rant here about not being able to measure free memory in leeenux easily | 08:31 |
ahkok | which is hilareous since this laptop has 4gb memory but meego only sees 1 | 08:31 |
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thiago | mikeleib: free memory actually is easy. Measuring how much one app takes, however, that is hard. | 08:31 |
ahkok | eh, top -> total - cached | 08:31 |
thiago | ahkok: 32-bit kernel with no high-mem? | 08:32 |
ahkok | easy enough | 08:32 |
ahkok | thiago, standard trunk kernel, yup | 08:32 |
mikeleib | thiago: free lies | 08:32 |
ahkok | CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y | 08:32 |
mikeleib | or rather "/usr/bin/free" lies | 08:32 |
Myrtti | irssi ftw | 08:32 |
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mikeleib | put resources on x32 and make kernel go 64-bit | 08:33 |
ahkok | mikeleib, that's in the plan | 08:33 |
ahkok | well | 08:33 |
ahkok | wish list | 08:33 |
thiago | mikeleib: the kernel doesn't need to be x32. It can simply be 64-bit, can't it? | 08:33 |
ahkok | thiago, yes | 08:33 |
ahkok | it will actually help performance if we do | 08:34 |
ahkok | the problem is that highmem is a pig performance wise | 08:34 |
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mikeleib | thiago: just slight variation for syscall table, IIRC | 08:34 |
thiago | why? | 08:34 |
thiago | 64-bit kernel with 32-bit userland, that's what OSX did on PPC, Solaris did too for a while | 08:35 |
mikeleib | 64-bit syscall table expects 64-bit ptrs in param, IIRC | 08:35 |
thiago | the only thing I can think of that we'd want to change is the actuall syscall method | 08:35 |
thiago | right, I meant the 32-bit syscall table | 08:35 |
thiago | it's already compiled in | 08:36 |
mikeleib | I think the stack switch needs to be adjusted for the different PCS | 08:36 |
mikeleib | from what I understand it's like a map.. not a big deal | 08:36 |
thiago | yeah, the actual sysenter/syscall | 08:36 |
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thiago | better to use the registers in the parameter-passing order, instead of what 32-bit does | 08:37 |
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mikeleib | jah | 08:38 |
thiago | and, of course, the return-from-kernel mode needs to return to long mode, not 32-bit mode | 08:39 |
ahkok | anyway, I don't think we'll get it in 1.3 | 08:39 |
mikeleib | 1.3 is still rainbows and unicorns | 08:39 |
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mikeleib | it *could* happen | 08:40 |
ahkok | there's plenty already in 1.3 | 08:40 |
thiago | krh told me he wants wayland in 1.3 | 08:40 |
Stskeeps | mikeleib: pink unicorns | 08:40 |
mikeleib | if there was a large team of folks to work on it and boil the appropriate oceans | 08:40 |
mikeleib | Stskeeps: that fart rainbows | 08:40 |
thiago | sing the magic incantations | 08:40 |
ahkok | wayland will likely make 1.3 | 08:40 |
ahkok | the problem is that we might not have anything using it | 08:41 |
mikeleib | I, for one, welcome our new compositing overlords | 08:41 |
ahkok | other than some dev projects | 08:41 |
* Stskeeps could believe in wayland for 1.3, both x86 and arm | 08:41 | |
ahkok | systemd is in 1.3 XD | 08:41 |
ahkok | pretty much all repos broke lol | 08:41 |
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ahkok | chkconfig bwahaha | 08:41 |
ahkok | hmm, I should make a slide about that :) | 08:42 |
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thiago | does anyone see a pattern? :) | 08:45 |
ahkok | thiago, that was yesterday ;) | 08:45 |
ar | thiago: not really. it didn't break the ones, where it was optional | 08:46 |
* thiago still has it disabled | 08:46 | |
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ar | also, systemd is one of the things that actually work | 08:46 |
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ahkok | seems like anaZ broke trunk worse than me with the merge of rpm5 | 08:55 |
Stskeeps | 4.9 | 08:55 |
thiago | I think we need a session on RPM for the conference then | 08:56 |
ahkok | 4.9 right | 08:56 |
thiago | Stskeeps: new session submitted | 08:56 |
thiago | sivang: ping, are you there? | 08:57 |
thiago | sivang: unping | 08:57 |
Stskeeps | sivang: please prefix with BoF: | 08:58 |
thiago | done that for him | 08:58 |
Stskeeps | k | 08:58 |
* thiago edited the title | 08:58 | |
thiago | the last sentence in the summary says "this bof is for you" | 08:58 |
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thiago | Stskeeps: time suggestion: Tuesday, last slot | 09:00 |
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Stskeeps | Yes+ACK from me. sivang: i'd say something else than 'if you are a pilot' | 09:02 |
* Stskeeps has to get some sleep | 09:02 | |
Stskeeps | nite | 09:02 |
* ahkok still needs to pack | 09:03 | |
* thiago too | 09:03 | |
thiago | well, sleep, not pack | 09:03 |
* mikeleib packs | 09:03 | |
mikeleib | night all | 09:03 |
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bkalinga | hi all, my old madde installation got corrupted due to new installation for meego1.2 which eventually failed | 09:57 |
bkalinga | now i am unable to run mad-admin list from my Old Madde installation | 09:57 |
bkalinga | anyway i can patch the old installation | 09:58 |
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bkalinga | is shows a broken link for mad, and mad-admin | 09:58 |
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tim_____ | anyone know where i can buy a meego netbook | 12:11 |
tim_____ | the meego website should sell netbooks | 12:12 |
Tm_T | meego as a project is not about selling hardware | 12:13 |
tim_____ | they should itll make life alot easier than buying a supported netbook that has windows which i dont want to pay microsoft if ill be using meego | 12:14 |
Tm_T | tim_____: I think the selling of meego hardware is job of other factions than meego project | 12:15 |
Tm_T | like, well, hardware vendors | 12:15 |
toninikk1nen | if there are companies selling meego netbooks, maybe it would be nice to have a list of those on meego.com (if not already) | 12:15 |
Tm_T | toninikk1nen: sure, but still meego.com shouldn't be the place to _sell_ them (: | 12:16 |
toninikk1nen | i agree | 12:16 |
Tm_T | tim_____: to get you started on your search, https://meego.com/devices/netbook/supported-hardware-platforms | 12:17 |
tim_____ | i know the devices but all the netbooks are sold with windows | 12:21 |
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zinit | good morning | 12:30 |
mece | \o | 12:30 |
zinit | how is san francisco? | 12:30 |
zinit | see its been busy on twitter:P | 12:30 |
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mece | I'm not there. also it's 2:36 am there. | 12:36 |
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zinit | was thinking of going, but couldnt take a week and a half off work (no way I would go all that way for just a couple of days) | 12:38 |
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zinit | too expencive to go from dublin to SF to go for a few days. would have to make it a short vacation of at least 10 days | 12:39 |
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* slaine is a dub too | 12:41 | |
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zinit | nice weather obama brought with him | 12:43 |
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slaine | Well, the suns just come out, as per his commands | 12:43 |
zinit | in addition to fucking the traffick completelly | 12:43 |
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zinit | aah, I see there is some sun now.. but still insane winds here in cherrywood | 12:44 |
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zinit | sitting on the laptop I got at the meego conference at the aviva in meego 1.2 now | 12:44 |
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zinit | everything worked out of the box:P that was nice. no need to screw around to get the broadcom wifi working:P | 12:45 |
slaine | You probably have a broadcom free ideapad then | 12:45 |
slaine | I do | 12:45 |
zinit | love that machine:) | 12:45 |
slaine | So I've kept MeeGo on my Dell Mini9 to keep the howto going, have Fedora14 on the ideapad atm for dev work | 12:46 |
zinit | got meego, opensuse and win7 ultimate on it | 12:46 |
zinit | win7 is slow as fuck.. but I think thats more of the windows gimmick than hardware performance... | 12:48 |
zinit | ubuntu has gotten too bloaty. and the new interface they got crashes all the time. so ditched it for opensuse | 12:49 |
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zinit | stuck in 2 gigs memory in it. helped alot on wow performance:P | 12:49 |
toninikk1nen | i dunno why people keep on switching distros since this and that was slower than another... just switch your desktop environment | 12:49 |
toninikk1nen | use ratpoison or something, it's fast on anything | 12:49 |
zinit | wow, lotro and warcraft3 works like a charm. and starcraft ofcourse:P | 12:50 |
zinit | only one I cant run in linux is lotro. that one crashes wine | 12:50 |
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zinit | got bored with ubuntu. the latest version had some bitchy bugs that screws with the touchscreen and the tethering to my iphone didnt work anymore there. and I use it to get online at work | 12:51 |
zinit | using the opensuse tethering and iproxy drivers in meego. no problems what so ever | 12:52 |
mece | wtf I'm stuck in set timezone dialog on MeeGo 1.2 netbook installation | 12:52 |
mece | forward button does nothing | 12:52 |
toninikk1nen | you will always have problems, the problem set might be different, but nothing will work perfectly, unless you make it. switching just switches your old problems with new ones | 12:52 |
zinit | strange... never had any trouble with the timezone during isntall... | 12:53 |
mece | so any suggestions how to get past this? | 12:53 |
zinit | the only thing that doesnt work like a charm in linux is the screen rotate and cant assign the "touch button (the top one) in linux | 12:54 |
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zinit | and love the quickstart. works great for reading the newspapers and simple stuff like that | 12:55 |
zinit | wouldnt mind being able to replace that one with meego though... | 12:55 |
zinit | dont know if thats possible to do | 12:55 |
toninikk1nen | mece: mabe just try again ? | 12:55 |
zinit | heard someone was able to replace it with android... but never checked up on how they did it | 12:56 |
toninikk1nen | maybe out of sheer bad luck it just crashed at that point just this once :) | 12:56 |
mece | toninikk1nen, hm.. | 12:57 |
mece | toninikk1nen, lemme try | 12:58 |
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mece | nope same thing | 12:59 |
mece | when I clock "forward" the button stays pressed for 2 seconds then pops up and nothing happens. *sigh* | 12:59 |
toninikk1nen | i dunno then, maybe randomly click around like crazy ;) | 12:59 |
mece | Ḯve been doing that for a while now. | 12:59 |
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mece | doesn't seem to do much | 12:59 |
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zinit | tried using the screen to click it? I remember 1.1 you had to use the touchscreen to click buttons during install | 13:16 |
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mece | Gaah this is just superbly frustrating! | 13:23 |
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zinit | strange that it wont work... make sure the clock in the bios is going correct and mark off that the hardware clock is on utc. (at leas thats what I did). and choose the correct location so the timezone setting dont go bonkers | 13:27 |
zinit | one tihng I couldnt understand is why the twitter integration isnt in 1.2 by default... shouldnt have to set that manually... but at least the msn and facebook ones works like a charm... | 13:28 |
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lardman | morning chaps, is there a channel setup in which we can ask conference attendees to ask questions on our behalf, or will this channel be used for all the conference chatter? | 13:28 |
MohammadAG | lardman, /topic | 13:28 |
* lardman has had his client connected for too long ;) | 13:29 | |
lardman | thanks MohammadAG | 13:29 |
MohammadAG | yw :P | 13:29 |
lardman | :) | 13:29 |
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Ronksu | okay.. it's 03:50, and somebody on the street is practicing to play the "popeye the sailorman" -tune with a flute. I hope (s)he learns fast. | 13:50 |
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zinit | hehe | 13:50 |
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lcuk | the latest n900-de images include pyside so I heard yesterday | 14:11 |
* lcuk wonders how to test this | 14:11 | |
lcuk | khertan would know properly | 14:11 |
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lcuk | hi slaine CosmoHill \o | 14:19 |
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lcuk | slaine, yeah | 14:22 |
CosmoHill | I downloaded meego netbook image yesterday, the internet download was faster than the network I transfered it over | 14:22 |
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lcuk | i happily found that the 2 virtually identical microsd cards have completely different write speeds | 14:22 |
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CosmoHill | lcuk: same brand? | 14:23 |
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lcuk | CosmoHill, yeah | 14:23 |
thiago | same price? | 14:23 |
lcuk | and in the same reader doing the same operations | 14:23 |
lcuk | thiago, IDK | 14:24 |
lcuk | i just found it and thought "what if" | 14:24 |
lcuk | and it was different and faster | 14:24 |
lcuk | I think the faster one was the one I dropped in my cup of coffee ages ago | 14:24 |
CosmoHill | lol | 14:24 |
CosmoHill | caffine high maybe | 14:24 |
CosmoHill | oh, my motherboard and RAM should arrive tomorrow so hopefully I'll have a meego compatable computer at last | 14:25 |
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jpe | tried meego 1.2 on my sony vaio netbook this weekend, it works fine, the wifi sometime looses connection, didn;t check logfiles yet | 15:48 |
* CosmoHill wonders if we should be making a list of meego 1.2 compatable devices | 15:50 | |
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jpe | love the interface ! | 15:52 |
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CosmoHill | hey cl | 16:13 |
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CosmoHill | lcuk*: I'm thinking it might be an idea of create a list of devices people have used with MeeGo 1.2 | 16:13 |
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lcuk | CosmoHill, I agree | 16:15 |
lcuk | a table on the devices page would be reasonable? | 16:15 |
lcuk | showing major points working | 16:15 |
lcuk | and points where people have issues | 16:15 |
CosmoHill | I'm thinking | 16:15 |
lcuk | http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Status#DE_N900_feature_status_template_.28Under_construction.29 | 16:16 |
lcuk | like that | 16:16 |
lcuk | but instead of bugs | 16:16 |
CosmoHill | manufacturer / brand: model: model number: yes / no: notes | 16:16 |
lcuk | devices and main points people need | 16:16 |
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zinit | and if there are solutions, there sohuld be a wiki page showing how to get the problem solved when there are solutions to issues. | 16:16 |
CosmoHill | Apple: Macbook Pro: 2010 Macbook Pro: Yes: Intel graphics only | 16:16 |
lcuk | Manufacturer, Model, Boots, Wifi, Graphics, Keyboard, Notes | 16:17 |
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CosmoHill | keyboard? | 16:17 |
CosmoHill | MeeGoBot: supported processors? | 16:17 |
MeeGoBot | CosmoHill: well, duh. Supported Processors are http://wiki.meego.com/Supported_Processors | 16:17 |
lcuk | yes, does the vkb or hwkb work happily | 16:17 |
lcuk | it is a point for people | 16:17 |
zinit | only things that are still bugged on the s10-3t's seem to be the buttons on the screen (the 2 above the mute) | 16:17 |
CosmoHill | lcuk: something like that with more colums? | 16:17 |
lcuk | yes | 16:18 |
CosmoHill | I've still not had anyone with VIA or AMD processors say anything about meego | 16:18 |
* lcuk nods | 16:18 | |
CosmoHill | I was thinking of spliiting it into categories too, notebooks / tablets, handsets, misc | 16:18 |
zinit | via has no problems handling it. got a via micro itx machine with meego | 16:18 |
zinit | 800Mhz via eden cpu | 16:19 |
CosmoHill | zinit: what processor? I'll add it to the list | 16:19 |
CosmoHill | thanks | 16:19 |
zinit | CosmoHill: chipset is intel I think... at work now so dont have it infront of me:P | 16:19 |
CosmoHill | Via Eden esther? | 16:19 |
CosmoHill | wait | 16:20 |
zinit | pm me and I'll give you the info for the box when I'm at home later today | 16:20 |
CosmoHill | zinit: cool | 16:20 |
zinit | its a all in one card | 16:20 |
CosmoHill | accoridng to wikipedia the VIA Eden doesn't support SSSE3 | 16:20 |
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zinit | got meego 1.1 up on it at the moment. using the machine for running movies on a tv:P | 16:21 |
zinit | cant handle HD but divx works great (its about 5 years old, so understandable that it cant handle HD:P) | 16:22 |
CosmoHill | my powerbook is almost 6 years old and tries to set fire to my desk whenever I watch youtube | 16:22 |
zinit | hehe | 16:22 |
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zinit | same as my old HP zd8000 then:P lost count of the times its given me 1st degree burns when playing wow or watching movies with it on my lap | 16:23 |
toninikk1nen | i'm wearing my meegoconf 2010 shirt.. someone stopped me on the street and said hey, meego, that's cool stuff | 16:25 |
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zinit | nice:) | 16:25 |
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CosmoHill | toninikk1nen: that's cool | 16:25 |
zinit | you should take a trip out to silicon valley when you are in san francisco anyway:P its not that far:P | 16:25 |
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CosmoHill | lcuk: what should the page be called, supported devices? | 16:26 |
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lcuk | CosmoHill, no | 16:27 |
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lcuk | because it is also possible for devices which do not work to be listed | 16:27 |
lcuk | this is a cleanup of the /devices page | 16:27 |
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lcuk | technically it might be right to just have this table at the top of the devices page itself | 16:27 |
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CosmoHill | lcuk: ah I see | 16:28 |
CosmoHill | how about this, we create a table of the devices at the top of the page | 16:28 |
CosmoHill | and slowly replace the whole page with the table | 16:28 |
lcuk | well some notes on the page are useful | 16:28 |
lcuk | to clarify what is put into the table at the top | 16:28 |
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CosmoHill | how does "notebooks" differ from "laptops"? | 16:31 |
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CosmoHill | lcuk: if someone gives me cookies I'll work on this next week | 16:37 |
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lcuk | ahh yes, cookies. | 16:39 |
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Sage_ | does anyone walk with usb keyboard in SF atm? I planned to update the tablet image to my exopc but could not go through the installation because of no keyboard. :/ | 17:12 |
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gabrbedd | Sage_: I have one in my room. | 17:13 |
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Sage_ | anyone has one in the hacker lounge for example? :) | 17:14 |
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gabrbedd | Sage_: If you get me on the wifi in the HL, I'll gladly go up and get my KB. | 17:16 |
gabrbedd | :-) | 17:16 |
Sage_ | ? :) | 17:16 |
Sage_ | the wifi is so bad in there atm? | 17:17 |
gabrbedd | Sage_: I'm on they "Hyatt" since I don't have the WPA passwd for the wifi in there. | 17:17 |
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gabrbedd | Sage_: Are you in the HL right now? | 17:18 |
Sage_ | not atm. | 17:18 |
Sage_ | at my hotel room but will be down there in about 30mins or so. | 17:19 |
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toninikk1nen | you going to finish your presentation slides on the exopc with no keyboard ? ) | 17:20 |
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Sage_ | toninikk1nen: sure without oo and stuff ;) | 17:20 |
gabrbedd | toninikk1nen: it's all just handwaving anyway... right? | 17:21 |
gabrbedd | :-p | 17:21 |
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ab | toninikk1nen, are you at SF? | 17:25 |
toninikk1nen | nope | 17:25 |
RST38h | moo, ab | 17:25 |
ab | toninikk1nen, ah, so you are like me | 17:26 |
ab | RST38h, meeh | 17:26 |
toninikk1nen | ab: i would have liked to go as such... but ... i have to admit i was just too lazy | 17:27 |
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toninikk1nen | there's enough events here in Berlin to keep me occupied without moving my arse around the Atlantic :) | 17:27 |
ab | toninikk1nen, well, like a former colleague of mine said, it seems MeeGo Conferences in SF are coupled with volcano erruptions in Iceland. Looks like somebody is not really happy with the outcome... | 17:28 |
ab | last year it was also same week | 17:28 |
zinit | wasnt the vulcano after the conference in dublin? | 17:29 |
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toninikk1nen | i remember how a certain cow-orker of mine went to SF and didn't get back because of the volcano | 17:30 |
toninikk1nen | and now, guess where that person is this time.. :) | 17:30 |
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* gabrbedd sighs in satisfaction. | 17:31 | |
gabrbedd | Sage_: Thanks, bro. I'm in the HL. | 17:32 |
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zinit | how is the weather in california? | 17:32 |
gabrbedd | zinit: Same as always in SF: clear and chilly | 17:32 |
zinit | better than dublin.. switching between sun and rain, and is extremely windy. | 17:33 |
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Sage_ | toninikk1nen: jumping from happyness? :) | 17:33 |
toninikk1nen | nah i don't wish misfortune on others... but I guess I enjoy comedy where I can find it | 17:34 |
ab | zinit, it was Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit 2010 and there was MeeGo workgroup | 17:34 |
Sage_ | toninikk1nen: eh, I meant that that person is here jumping from happyness? :) | 17:34 |
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zinit | will be interesting to see where the emego conference will be next year.. | 17:36 |
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toninikk1nen | Sage_: ought to be, with luck he will get some days off from work... and to spend them in SF | 17:36 |
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CosmoHill | zinit: very windy here atm too] | 17:37 |
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zinit | weird weather here in dublin... sunny and pouring down... | 17:38 |
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CosmoHill | we just have the sun, not rained once this month that I can remember | 17:39 |
zinit | and you are where? | 17:39 |
CosmoHill | england | 17:39 |
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lardman | CosmoHill: Hmm, is raining here right now | 17:40 |
CosmoHill | south east | 17:40 |
lardman | but you lot near Londinium seem to get better weather than us westerners ;) | 17:40 |
zinit | dublin was nice for a while. but the last few days has been completelly screwed up.. rain, sun, wind.. only thing we havent had the last 3 days is snow | 17:40 |
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CosmoHill | I''ll trade you some for some cider | 17:40 |
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lardman | lol | 17:41 |
lardman | well the way the wind is blowing here you'd probably get apple juice directly from standing under an apple tree | 17:41 |
lardman | I'm actually in Bath too, so not quite cider-country | 17:42 |
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CosmoHill | either I'm really tired or this revision is boring | 17:52 |
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Stskeeps | how is it? | 18:04 |
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Sage_ | better than I expected, however a bit too sweet in my opinion. | 18:05 |
timeless_w7ip | anyone here want to help me get Elisa to terminate my service? | 18:05 |
timeless_w7ip | it was supposed to be dead already but it clearly isn't | 18:05 |
toninikk1nen | timeless_w7ip: i bet 99% of those calls you get are telemarketers trying to sell you a DNA subscription | 18:05 |
timeless_w7ip | heh | 18:05 |
toninikk1nen | that's at least true in my case | 18:06 |
timeless_w7ip | no, this was a friend who had moved away and just returned for the summer | 18:06 |
toninikk1nen | every unknown number that calls me is one of those | 18:06 |
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timeless_w7ip | my new local US number has already received one evil call | 18:06 |
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timeless_w7ip | Portfolio <http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-859-918-0780> called @8:21 am on Saturday | 18:07 |
timeless_w7ip | (according to my cell phone log) | 18:07 |
timeless_w7ip | incredibly rude | 18:07 |
* timeless_w7ip didn't answer it, but it did interrupt an essential sleep cycle | 18:08 | |
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timeless_w7ip | i have 110,281 "important" conversations | 18:14 |
timeless_w7ip | 81,126 of which I haven't read... | 18:15 |
gabrbedd | timeless_w7ip: turn off your phone when you sleep. :-p | 18:16 |
timeless_w7ip | then i can't find out about spammers.. | 18:16 |
gabrbedd | timeless_w7ip: you have the weirdest priorities. | 18:16 |
gabrbedd | timeless_w7ip: Are you in the hacker lounge? | 18:17 |
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timeless_w7ip | i'm in my room. i need to find misha/thp and get the duffle bag I left w/ them @SFO when we arrived | 18:20 |
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timeless_w7ip | gabrbedd: i get less spam than ham. so it's easier to deal w/ spammers | 18:21 |
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TSCHAKeee | what is the observed battery life on the eXoPCs? | 18:57 |
ahiemstra | 2h if you're lucky? | 18:57 |
jukkaeklund | those with N900 and want to try out MeeGo on it, we are having a release for SF: http://wiki.meego.com/N900 | 18:57 |
akk | Yeah, that's about what I see, a couple hours. | 18:57 |
ahiemstra | if my wetab is any indication | 18:57 |
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TSCHAKeee | that's fucking terrible. | 18:58 |
TSCHAKeee | especially when I have a netbook based on the same pinetrail setup, and I get 6 hours out of it in meego netbook. | 18:58 |
ahiemstra | it depends a bit on what you're running on it, the meego tablet ux lacks any form of power management | 18:58 |
akk | yep | 18:58 |
ali1234 | it's x86....... what do you expect? | 18:59 |
ali1234 | good battery life?? | 18:59 |
TSCHAKeee | :( | 18:59 |
ahiemstra | so it will just sit there and eat your battery | 18:59 |
akk | ali1234: x86 netbooks can do three times that. | 18:59 |
TSCHAKeee | i | 18:59 |
ali1234 | if you connect a 12 cell battery they can | 18:59 |
TSCHAKeee | i've even pulled 7 hours | 18:59 |
akk | If there were some way to turn off the wifi (maybe there is from a terminal?) it might help. | 18:59 |
TSCHAKeee | out of my Asus eeePC 1005PEG | 18:59 |
ali1234 | ie more battery than netbook | 18:59 |
ahiemstra | the battery in it is just very small | 18:59 |
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ahiemstra | probably to counter the relatively heavy screen | 19:00 |
TSCHAKeee | this is what drives me insane | 19:00 |
TSCHAKeee | the ARM tablets have great battery life | 19:00 |
akk | ali1234: My ancient centrino vaio with the standard battery gets about 6 hours. Some Atom netbooks supposedly do a lot better. | 19:00 |
TSCHAKeee | but i can't get decent support out of the chips in linux | 19:00 |
akk | er, 6 hours with an older kernel, not with the current kernels that broke power management | 19:00 |
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ahiemstra | to be honest, the battery life on opensuse with the wetab is better, especially when only using it sporadically since it will properly sleep | 19:02 |
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n1_ | is the battery drain related to the 2.6.38/39 kernel bug? | 19:02 |
akk | Not being able to sleep hurts the MeeGo ExoPC a lot. | 19:02 |
n1_ | according to phoronix battery life got a bump by 10-30% | 19:03 |
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n1_ | but it sounds like a temporary problem | 19:03 |
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Jaffa | Morning, all | 19:06 |
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iekku | morning | 19:12 |
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thp | timeless_w7ip: we'll be heading to the room shortly before the keynote to pick up the laptop, so you could fetch your stuff then | 19:18 |
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timeless_w7ip | thp: sounds good | 19:35 |
timeless_w7ip | lemme try to grab breakfast | 19:36 |
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* lardman wonders if that requires a spear, bow and arrow or rifle? | 19:44 | |
timeless_w7ip | a map i think | 19:44 |
akk | Or just a sharpened credit card | 19:44 |
RST38h | lardman: Cats are not THAT hard to catch | 19:44 |
lardman | yuck! | 19:44 |
RST38h | Anyways, what are the latest news from the conference? | 19:45 |
ahiemstra | just a big book should suffice | 19:45 |
lardman | RST38h: T-minus 15minutes I think | 19:45 |
RST38h | Ah, that damn west coast is MSK-11 | 19:45 |
lardman | RST38h: new N900 DE released apparently | 19:45 |
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RST38h | Pretty inconvinient | 19:45 |
lardman | yeah will be a long night | 19:46 |
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RST38h | Am I missing something or is meego.com missing any realtime conference coverage whatsoever? | 19:46 |
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lardman | RST38h: head to #meegoconf | 19:46 |
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lardman | RST38h: plus this: http://sf2011.meego.com/program/live-streaming | 19:47 |
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RST38h | Ah! I knewI was missing something =) | 19:47 |
lardman | I had to ask this morning too, apparently it's in some strange thing called a /topic that no-one ever reads ;) | 19:48 |
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RST38h | topic? what topic? :) | 19:49 |
lardman | shame this page can't be localised so I don't have to keep subtracting 8 hours: http://sf2011.meego.com/program/live-streaming | 19:49 |
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TomaszD | hey | 19:53 |
TomaszD | does the live streaming flash player work for anyone? http://sf2011.meego.com/program/live-streaming | 19:53 |
TomaszD | it promptly crashes here | 19:53 |
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CosmoHill | I think it's crashed for me too | 19:54 |
TomaszD | that's disappointing, it's like 6 minutes till the keynote starts | 19:54 |
btdrucke_ | void: modal dialog will support expanding width | 19:55 |
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TomaszD | so annoying :( | 19:57 |
ar | it keeps buffering here | 19:58 |
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GAN900 | TomaszD, I'll live blog in #meegoconf | 19:59 |
TomaszD | GAN900, thanks | 19:59 |
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lcuk | TomaszD, if you have not seen GAN900 in action, you are missing something | 20:00 |
lcuk | his thumbs are a blur! | 20:00 |
GAN900 | lcuk, real laptop this time. ;) | 20:01 |
TomaszD | we'll see | 20:01 |
TomaszD | :) | 20:01 |
TomaszD | for the time being I'd love the player not to crash the latest flash player on linux | 20:02 |
lcuk | GAN900, you have a PPM rating | 20:02 |
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lcuk | most people do WPM, but you have to be based on paragraphs | 20:02 |
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suy_ | does the streaming of the conference work for any of you? | 20:03 |
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ph0b028 | no | 20:03 |
TomaszD | doesn't crash the flash plugin on android though... but it pretends to be buffering | 20:04 |
GAN900 | Still nobody manning the camera(s) | 20:04 |
suy_ | ok, thank you; i was afraid i was missing it :) | 20:04 |
Milhouse | no live stream here | 20:05 |
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lardman | I might have to resurrect IE to see if that will work, I don't even see a flash player with FF4 | 20:06 |
Milhouse | I also just tried the SF release of N900DE... anyone else? Not sure what to make of it... without sounding harsh. | 20:06 |
CosmoHill | I hope the audio is better than last time | 20:06 |
lardman | Milhouse: I've just downloaded it and was going to try.... | 20:06 |
Milhouse | lardman: I just tried Opera 11.11 and FF4.01 - no joy in either | 20:06 |
lardman | ok thanks | 20:06 |
GAN900 | Milhouse, #meegoconf for live blog. ;) | 20:07 |
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Milhouse | lardman: There just seems to be no real progress (compared with an image from a couple of months ago) | 20:07 |
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RST38h | Milhouse: Is "good progress from 1.1" the wording you are looking for? =) | 20:07 |
Milhouse | GAN: ta! :) | 20:07 |
GAN900 | Milhouse, we've got the same tech demos from Dublin! | 20:07 |
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Milhouse | RST38h: Not really - I've tested a few builds, 1.1.80 etc. and those in between until today, and I just don't know what to think... | 20:10 |
RST38h | Milhouse: ok, just say it | 20:10 |
Milhouse | RST38h: I mean I tried qatbowling and it trashed xorgggggg | 20:10 |
lardman | hmm, from the announcement I thought it might all be up and running and ready for use now | 20:10 |
Milhouse | RST38h: It's slow as treacle | 20:10 |
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Milhouse | RST38h: It is, quite frankly, awful. | 20:10 |
RST38h | Milhouse:Go for CSSU instead | 20:11 |
Milhouse | oops, not sure where all those extra g's came from - dodgey keyboard :) | 20:11 |
Stskeeps | netbook or handset? .. | 20:11 |
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Milhouse | RST38h: Perhaps my expectations are set too high - I thought we might be getting a moderately usable MeeGo build but I'm not too hopeful given the current pace of improvement | 20:12 |
Milhouse | handset, N900DE | 20:12 |
RST38h | No,you won't be | 20:12 |
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RST38h | BUT,on the other hand, the slowdown may be because of the specific installation scheme | 20:12 |
Milhouse | Maybe, Class 10 SDHC | 20:13 |
RST38h | If there is a slow swap problem,that would do it for you | 20:13 |
Milhouse | But these "performance" issues have been known about for months | 20:13 |
matthew_ | Hello! Anybody knows about live streaming from meego conference? It doesn't work for me. | 20:13 |
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Milhouse | Anyway... I hate to be so critical, but there it is - hugely disappointing. | 20:13 |
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lardman | matthew_: same here, and head for #meegoconf | 20:14 |
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kahless | is anyone meego netbook-edition and gentoo dualbooting? extlinux wont boot gentoo | 20:20 |
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kahless | bootmenu is just blinking, no error msgs | 20:20 |
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DawnFoster | With so many people trying to watch the keynote, we're having a few issues with the Live Stream. Should be back soon. | 20:24 |
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timsamoff | Hi, kimtake! | 20:25 |
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dm8tbr | what's 'so many'? | 20:27 |
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Milhouse | 23 | 20:27 |
Milhouse | :) | 20:27 |
dm8tbr | For MeeGoFI I had bandwith for _thousands_ of viewers and hardly used it during the keynote... | 20:27 |
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TSCHAKeee | anyone recording it? | 20:29 |
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dm8tbr | would need to work for it to be recorded... | 20:30 |
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Mirv | netromedia doesn't really convince... didn't Fluendo people have some streaming company as well? maybe we could also get HTML5/WebM streams then... | 20:31 |
DawnFoster | no, the video is being recording - the issue is in getting it out to the live stream. We always isolate the 2 so that a live stream fail can't impact our ability to upload the video later | 20:32 |
kidproquo | DawnFoster, good to know | 20:33 |
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lardman | DawnFoster: there's a link issue on the website too. I'm not sure whether the live streaming link from e.g. http://sf2011.meego.com/program/sessions/keynote-jim-zemlin-future-meego-starts-now (which goes to http://sf2011.meego.com/program/session/live-streaming) should work | 20:35 |
lardman | but I doubt it, and I guess it should be this link: http://sf2011.meego.com/program/live-streaming | 20:36 |
dm8tbr | Mirv: I had 2x 1GBit of icecast bandwith for MeeGoFI plus several 100M locations as fallback. worked right from HTML5 capable browsers that do support theora, with fallback to cortado (java based) with fallback to stream url for playback in vlc... | 20:36 |
dm8tbr | and I was working on a zero point zero budget | 20:37 |
Mirv | dm8tbr: sounds great, "too bad" I was on location ;) | 20:37 |
dm8tbr | ;) | 20:37 |
Myrtti | :-P | 20:38 |
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Myrtti | I'll take pictures for you guys to enjoy :-P | 20:40 |
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dm8tbr | Myrtti: you are physically there, there is not much more you have to do to gain our envy :-p | 20:41 |
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Myrtti | I shall rub it in a bit more if anything exciting happens :-P | 20:42 |
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mcpi | markguim is streaming with his mobile http://yfrog.com/66cbtz | 20:47 |
mcpi | ok, it is not a stream | 20:48 |
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akk | Are there going to be videos of the sessions for later download? | 20:51 |
akk | (even if there are problems with livestreaming) | 20:51 |
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timeless_w7ip | akk: there's a professional video camera behind us at the back | 20:51 |
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timeless_w7ip | so one would hope he isn't just standing there for show | 20:51 |
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akk | Fingers crossed! | 20:52 |
mcpi | maybe for premium download via itunes? :P | 20:52 |
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timeless_w7ip | does anyone here have acccess to 'mixxx'? | 21:03 |
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RST38h | moo, wazd, how is SF? | 21:04 |
wazd | Rst38h, hey, listening to the opening keynote right now :) | 21:05 |
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harbaum__ | Any giveaways already i need to be jealous about? | 21:51 |
Stskeeps | not so far | 21:51 |
harbaum__ | Anything interesting so far? The live stream isn't working | 21:52 |
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kidproquo | harbaum__, stream is working now... | 21:56 |
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harbaum__ | thx | 21:57 |
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maclaver | Just in time for Robin!!! | 21:57 |
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maclaver | Maybe the synchronization god smiled down on the conference. | 21:57 |
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cityLights | anyone here? | 22:42 |
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dm8tbr | no | 22:42 |
lcuk | yes | 22:43 |
cityLights | was hoping to hear when the N9 will be released | 22:43 |
dm8tbr | ask nokia | 22:43 |
cityLights | anyone here can help with hildon-status menu? | 22:43 |
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lcuk | cityLights, which MeeGo UX is hildon-status menu a part of? | 22:45 |
cityLights | well, its actullay maemo | 22:45 |
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lcuk | cityLights, I once went into the opticians to ask for some fruit | 22:46 |
lcuk | thankfully they offered me some glasses and I never made that mistake again. | 22:46 |
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lcuk | I am sure there is a lesson somewhere in that. | 22:46 |
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RST38h | lcuk; "Bring enough money and you will get what you want even from the opticians"? | 22:47 |
lcuk | true | 22:47 |
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cityLights | streaming from meego conf is bad | 22:49 |
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dm8tbr | RST38h: they'll just convince you that you wanted the platin rims with svarovski crystals for your glases in the first place | 22:49 |
cityLights | hardly can see any moviing pictures | 22:49 |
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lcukn900 | dm8 yeah but they are cool glasses | 22:52 |
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lcuk | Question: Name an app which works happily across all MeeGo UXes? | 22:59 |
DocScrutinizer | ummm, echo "hello world"? | 23:00 |
cityLights | ha ha | 23:01 |
lcuk | Question: Which app is must have on your MeeGo device? | 23:01 |
mihero | terminal | 23:02 |
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lcuk | mihero, why | 23:02 |
DocScrutinizer | I'm not going to answer this, as later on somebody will call me out on it and tell me "you got XY, so shut up now and be happy" | 23:02 |
lcuk | and you are not the first person to suggest | 23:02 |
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lcuk | no DocScrutinizer I am asking because it is sensible to do so | 23:02 |
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lcuk | I asked similar questions around Qt-labs the other day | 23:03 |
lcuk | and terminal was one of those answered | 23:03 |
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DocScrutinizer | xterm, obviously | 23:03 |
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DocScrutinizer | incl proper bash and all unix tools | 23:04 |
DocScrutinizer | plus sth like zenity | 23:04 |
ahkok | someone give me a touch-enabled terminal | 23:04 |
lcuk | Question: What is your regular day to day handset? N900Maemo/Android/Iphone etc | 23:04 |
lcuk | ahkok, what does that mean? | 23:04 |
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ahkok | something that allows me to type using sype e.g. to work in a shell/xterm/... | 23:05 |
lcuk | ahkok, I can click and tap on my n900 in terminal | 23:05 |
lcuk | right, that is not the terminal though, that is the input method | 23:05 |
ahkok | tablet doesn't have something like that yet | 23:05 |
lcuk | surely? | 23:05 |
ahkok | they packaged xterm on the system but that isn't enabled for touch input | 23:06 |
ahkok | ./petpeeve | 23:06 |
lcuk | just hold on | 23:06 |
lcuk | i have n900-de tablet edition here | 23:07 |
akk | yeah, that was discussed on the ML recently | 23:07 |
lcuk | just opening terminal | 23:07 |
ahkok | lcuk, cool | 23:07 |
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lcuk | using my finger/stylus I can make selections | 23:08 |
lcuk | dunno how to copy/paste though | 23:08 |
ahkok | if you can't type `rm -rf *` ... ;) | 23:08 |
lcuk | mind you, I cannot copy/paste on my desktop teminal either | 23:08 |
akk | If you could middlemouse, that would probably paste. | 23:08 |
lcuk | without right click context menu | 23:08 |
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ahkok | lol | 23:09 |
lcuk | and it just stops commands | 23:09 |
lcuk | very frustrating | 23:09 |
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akk | lcuk: middlemouse paste | 23:09 |
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akk | though it might also have something like shift-insert | 23:09 |
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CosmoHill | lcuk: Added the VIA processor to the list and made some changes to the style: http://wiki.meego.com/Supported_Processors | 23:28 |
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lcuk | CosmoHill, you are bloody amazing. | 23:30 |
lcuk | :) | 23:30 |
lcuk | I thought there were various ARM processors for different devices? | 23:30 |
CosmoHill | yay | 23:30 |
lcuk | the Beagleboards, the PandaBoards, the n900 | 23:30 |
lcuk | what is Tegra running? | 23:30 |
CosmoHill | well nobody has added any to the list or told me | 23:30 |
lcuk | well now best time to poke people | 23:31 |
lcuk | GMA500 is graphics chipset isn't it? | 23:31 |
CosmoHill | correct | 23:31 |
lcuk | lardman, what chip is in your partially working tab? | 23:31 |
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lardman | hummingbird | 23:31 |
CosmoHill | I don't know if the graphics should be on the same page or at the bottom | 23:31 |
CosmoHill | also I swear some devices have intel core in them | 23:32 |
CosmoHill | apart from the VIA processor they're all based on SSSE3 support stated on wikipedia | 23:32 |
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lardman | lcuk: Samsung are releasing a new incarnation of the dreaded Android, with a newer kernel which should sort out the xinput2 issues, I hope | 23:33 |
lcuk | lardman, what is a hummingbird? | 23:34 |
lcuk | is it ARM based? | 23:34 |
lcuk | or x86? | 23:34 |
lardman | at least I've been to busy to start doing any porting work myself, otherwise I'd be annoyed | 23:34 |
lardman | arm | 23:34 |
lardman | hang on let me find a linky | 23:34 |
lcuk | CosmoHill, yeah I don't know either | 23:34 |
lcuk | just saying | 23:34 |
lardman | it's a cortex A8 with an SGX 540 graphics core plus some other graphic accel stuff | 23:35 |
lardman | 1GHz | 23:35 |
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lcuk | CosmoHill, ^^ | 23:35 |
lcuk | that is in partial working state | 23:35 |
lcuk | needs a tickbox in the "needs TLC" column | 23:35 |
CosmoHill | I'll add cortex A8 as partial | 23:36 |
lardman | it works fine, just touch doesn't work because I've not had any time to do anyghint with it | 23:36 |
lcuk | "Computing in the corner of your eye" | 23:36 |
lardman | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hummingbird_Processor | 23:37 |
lcuk | lardman, I told you about the sketches I collected together, I found all the ones from jake, I have every smiley face he has ever drawn :) | 23:37 |
CosmoHill | added, anything else? | 23:37 |
lardman | :) | 23:37 |
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lcuk | sketch ~50 out of >6000 | 23:37 |
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CosmoHill | interesting, Linus has been talking about ending the 2.6 line and starting 2.8 or 3.0 | 23:59 |
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