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| lcuk | DawnFoster, w00000000 at your book | 00:07 |
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| lcuk | is that proof read and stuff then, or beta version? | 00:08 |
| DawnFoster | lcuk: thanks!!! | 00:09 |
| DawnFoster | I'm super excited about it | 00:09 |
| lcuk | so you should be - you say it has arrived for approval | 00:10 |
| DawnFoster | the one in the picture is my proof copy to make sure that I didn't mangle any of the formatting | 00:10 |
| lcuk | the back blurb has what I believe is a missing word :O | 00:10 |
| DawnFoster | I'll have to go in and approve it and then a few days later will be available for purchase | 00:10 |
| DawnFoster | oh please, no missing words! | 00:11 |
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| lcuk | Almost every recipe comes with plenty of variations where you can get creative and twist those recipes [to] suit your particular tastes. | 00:11 |
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| DawnFoster | frack | 00:12 |
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| DawnFoster | grrr | 00:12 |
| lcuk | beta testing, everybody goes blind reading their own stuff | 00:12 |
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| DawnFoster | yeah, but it's not like I didn't have someone else read the cover, too :( | 00:13 |
| lcuk | DawnFoster, keep the missing word in the first run | 00:13 |
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| lcuk | in future years that rare copy will be worth more :O | 00:13 |
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| DawnFoster | lcuk: ha :) | 00:13 |
| DawnFoster | like anyone outside of my family & friends will ever buy it :) | 00:14 |
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| lcuk | DawnFoster, you have a larger family than you think with all the community coverage you have | 00:14 |
| * lcuk just investigating new laptop screen \@/ | 00:15 | |
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| gabrbedd | DawnFoster: good title! :-) | 00:16 |
| lcuk | DawnFoster, favourite recipe inside? | 00:16 |
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| DawnFoster | lcuk: probably the mango guacamole: http://whatdawneats.com/2011/05/mango-guacamole/ | 00:18 |
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| DawnFoster | gabrbedd: thanks - it's accurate anyway : | 00:18 |
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| DawnFoster | :) | 00:19 |
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| gabrbedd | DawnFoster: It's both clever, and concisely communicates the subject. | 00:19 |
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| lcuk | DawnFoster, this photo made me hungry most: http://www.flickr.com/photos/geekygirldawn/5705238571/in/photostream | 00:22 |
| aleksander_m | congrats everyone involved for the 1.2 release | 00:22 |
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| lbt | DawnFoster: I'm wondering at the "great on BLTs" comment in a vegan cookbook :D | 00:22 |
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| gabrbedd | lcuk: That does look good! | 00:23 |
| DawnFoster | lcuk: well, you really can't go wrong with a big pile of veggies on pasta :) | 00:23 |
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| DawnFoster | recipe: http://whatdawneats.com/2011/05/pasta-with-fresh-veggies/ | 00:23 |
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| gabrbedd | lbt: bacon isn't actually meat. | 00:23 |
| DawnFoster | lbt: ha! tempeh Bacon, Lettuce & Tomato :) | 00:24 |
| lcuk | DawnFoster, stirfry smells delicious when cooking | 00:24 |
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| lbt | DawnFoster: http://www.flickr.com/photos/96141280@N00/4604426181/in/photostream | 00:24 |
| * lcuk does have to add some form of meat later in the cooking cycle though | 00:24 | |
| lbt | not sure if it's vegan ... butter? | 00:24 |
| DawnFoster | eggs, milk and butter throw it out of the vegan camp :) | 00:25 |
| lbt | ah.... | 00:25 |
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| * lbt has limited experience... "up north" in England isn't exactly breeding ground for vegans ... eh lcuk? | 00:26 | |
| DawnFoster | lcuk: honestly, people could replace the tofu with something meaty in most of the recipes and be just fine | 00:26 |
| * lcuk nods at dawn | 00:26 | |
| lcuk | lbt, same as anywhere | 00:27 |
| lbt | lcuk: you never met my granny | 00:27 |
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| lcuk | my nana once made rice pudding | 00:27 |
| lcuk | odd thing was, she forgot to add the rice | 00:27 |
| lbt | yeah... that's pretty radical vegitarianism there | 00:27 |
| lcuk | she spent the entire time cooking it wondering she was forgetting something | 00:28 |
| * lcuk does not know why that just entered head | 00:28 | |
| lcuk | but it made me giggle anyway :) | 00:28 |
| DawnFoster | lbt: pretty easy for me because I was never a big meat / dairy fan | 00:28 |
| lbt | you're not alone :) | 00:28 |
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| DawnFoster | I haven't had meat since the 80s :) | 00:28 |
| DawnFoster | and I've been vegan for 15+ years | 00:28 |
| DawnFoster | old hat / habit now as much as anything else | 00:29 |
| DawnFoster | lcuk: my mom did that once, but she forgot the sugar in her pumkin pie | 00:29 |
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| lbt | I know what you mean | 00:29 |
| DawnFoster | people just sprinkled sugar on top & ate it anyway | 00:30 |
| * lbt packs something else | 00:30 | |
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| jykae | hi, why is http://build.meego.com/ user registration disabled? | 00:31 |
| ieatlint | papalote is one of the best places to go in sf to please omnivores, vegetarians and vegans i've learnt | 00:32 |
| ieatlint | mexican food, mission burritos being the main thing | 00:32 |
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| jykae | tried to create account to get in and build my programs for meego | 00:33 |
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| thiago_home | jykae: that's the official server | 00:34 |
| thiago_home | accounts given only on need basis | 00:34 |
| thiago_home | use build.pub.meego.com for your own needs | 00:34 |
| jykae | aha, thanks! | 00:34 |
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| dvoid_ | hi | 00:40 |
| dvoid_ | what cpu is the meego 1.2 images for netbook built for ? | 00:40 |
| dvoid_ | it says ia32 | 00:40 |
| dvoid_ | but some ...most applictaions in it does not seem to run on my celeron based netbook | 00:40 |
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| dvoid_ | "illegal instruction" | 00:42 |
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| gabrbedd | MeeGoBot: supported cpue? | 00:55 |
| MeeGoBot | gabrbedd: Sorry, I've no idea what 'supported cpue' might be. | 00:55 |
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| gabrbedd | MeeGoBot: supported cpus? | 00:55 |
| MeeGoBot | gabrbedd: Sorry, I've no idea what 'supported cpus' might be. | 00:55 |
| gabrbedd | MeeGoBot: supported processors | 00:55 |
| MeeGoBot | gabrbedd: Was it not... er, someone, who said: Supported Processors are http://wiki.meego.com/Supported_Processors | 00:55 |
| gabrbedd | dvoid_: ^^ | 00:55 |
| gabrbedd | dvoid_: Also, if you're on x86... you also need an intel graphics card. | 00:56 |
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| lbt | how's the Lenovo on 1.2 ? | 01:09 |
| Umeaboy | lbt: Try and you'll see. ;) | 01:10 |
| Umeaboy | Everyone experience different things. | 01:11 |
| lbt | so I can't find something to use as a HW button | 01:11 |
| lbt | so getting back to the panel is rather tricky | 01:11 |
| lbt | bluetooth and wifi are OK | 01:11 |
| lcuk | is this tabletux? | 01:11 |
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| lbt | it doesn't know I have a keyboard (how did I know that was going to be an epic fail) | 01:12 |
| lbt | yes lcuk | 01:12 |
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| lcuk | where is the image download link? | 01:12 |
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| lcuk | https://meego.com/downloads/releases/1.2/meego-tablet-developer-preview << that one? | 01:13 |
| lbt | yes | 01:13 |
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| lcuk | oh UX, you are so good at making us look silly: | 01:15 |
| lcuk | "Press and hold on an empty area in the application grid to launch personalization options in Settings." | 01:16 |
| * lcuk foresees a future where pressing randomly on walls and desks will be commonplace | 01:16 | |
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| lbt | lcuk: found it :) | 01:17 |
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| lbt | press the power button twice ... takes you back to the panel view | 01:17 |
| lcuk | lbt, it? | 01:17 |
| lcuk | ahh | 01:18 |
| lbt | (via the BIOS screen of course) | 01:18 |
| lcuk | click your heels too | 01:18 |
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| lcuk | hopefully, once meego takeup improves and storefront displays get it (ie touchscreen through shop window) the hardware button will be software | 01:19 |
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| lcuk | lbt, I went through all ~6000 random sketches in liqbase archives and (until I got bored and tired fingers) filtered them to ~250 | 01:23 |
| lcuk | I have the sketch of the calendar :) | 01:23 |
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| lcuk | when I release the graffiti wall, I am going to leave these sketches in to get people started, there is one that says "shopper top 10" for some reason | 01:24 |
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| ieatlint | lbt: if you're using that "developer preview" release from march 30, you're running a very basic image that was given out as "pre-alpha" | 01:34 |
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| ieatlint | it's far from meego 1.2, and the tablet ux last i heard was largely internal for a lot of it | 01:35 |
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| Myrtti | *snerk* | 01:36 |
| lbt | ieatlint: ? | 01:36 |
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| lbt | following links here: https://meego.com/community/blogs/imad/2011/meego-1.2-release | 01:36 |
| w00t_ | lbt: tablet ux on my lenovo as of yesterday has a functional hardware keyboard, so that'd be weird if it suddenly broke | 01:37 |
| ieatlint | lbt: yeah, look at the link there | 01:37 |
| ieatlint | "Released: 30 Mar 2011" | 01:38 |
| lbt | w00t_: it looks like I'm using a very old image... silly me... expecting a post from Imad dated 19/May to link to an image newer than 31/March | 01:38 |
| w00t_ | lbt: heh, i guess that's a mistake | 01:38 |
| lbt | DawnFoster: ^^ | 01:39 |
| ieatlint | that release was just meant to be a development test platform for trying applications | 01:39 |
| lbt | ieatlint: so... what image should I be using? | 01:39 |
| DawnFoster | there is a new image for tablet | 01:39 |
| DawnFoster | that's a typo in the release date | 01:40 |
| DawnFoster | download link takes you to image from Tuesday | 01:40 |
| ieatlint | oh, indeed it does | 01:40 |
| lbt | yes... you're right ... the image name is meego-tablet-ia32-pinetrail-1.2.0.90.0.20110517.1.img | 01:40 |
| ieatlint | I remember a release right around kde camp back at that date… perhaps they copy/pasted the page :) | 01:41 |
| lbt | https://meego.com/downloads/releases/1.2/meego-tablet-developer-preview is where the date is bad | 01:41 |
| DawnFoster | I'll talk to Mike about fixing the date | 01:41 |
| lbt | ieatlint: w00t_ so.... I do have a new image... and the HW keyb works.... but the sw keyb pops up and blocks any view of the entry | 01:42 |
| lbt | and the Lenovo has no 'top left' button | 01:42 |
| ieatlint | sounds like symbian :P | 01:42 |
| w00t_ | lbt: ah, right, well. that is a problem, yes | 01:42 |
| w00t_ | I wonder if the lenovo has a keyboard sensor that could be hooked up | 01:42 |
| w00t_ | top left? | 01:42 |
| w00t_ | press the windows key if you mean the switcher | 01:43 |
| lbt | w00t_: mmm that didn't work | 01:43 |
| w00t_ | oh, perhaps it's changed and become magically configurable now... | 01:43 |
| w00t_ | I'm not sure | 01:43 |
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| DawnFoster | ok, mrshaver is fixing the date on the tablet page | 01:44 |
| lbt | w00t_: this time it works ... I blame me though | 01:45 |
| lbt | w00t_: since you are knowledgeable... | 01:45 |
| lbt | can you close an app | 01:45 |
| w00t_ | tap and hold on the icon in the switcher | 01:46 |
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| lbt | *g* ta | 01:46 |
| * w00t_ really wishes tap and hold wasn't so prominent | 01:46 | |
| w00t_ | it's not very discoverable | 01:46 |
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| DawnFoster | gabrbedd: hee hee hee :) | 01:48 |
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| timeless_xchat | @hel flying to sfo via ams | 06:25 |
| timeless_xchat | flight departs in 7 mins (?) | 06:25 |
| gabrbedd | timeless_xchat: I look forward to meeting you! | 06:25 |
| timeless_xchat | likewise | 06:26 |
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| * timeless_xchat looks forward to preparing a presentation for sunday | 06:27 | |
| gabrbedd | timeless_xchat: I saw lcuk recommending your session to someone. :-) | 06:28 |
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| timeless_xchat | depending on how well it goes, i'll either have to thank him or ... | 06:29 |
| timeless_xchat | i hope there's a projector or something | 06:29 |
| gabrbedd | :-) | 06:30 |
| gabrbedd | what time is your thing on sunday? | 06:30 |
| timeless_xchat | if someone could email me the details of the room i'll have today (while i'm in transit), that'd be good | 06:30 |
| timeless_xchat | dunno, is there a schedule handy? | 06:30 |
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| timeless_xchat | looks like 2p-5:30 | 06:32 |
| timeless_xchat | wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Conference_Spring_2011#Schedule | 06:32 |
| gabrbedd | timeless_xchat: "Linux developer tools" ?? Looks like 9:00 - 12:30 | 06:32 |
| timeless_xchat | wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Conference_Spring_2011#Linux_developer_tools | 06:33 |
| timeless_xchat | oh, ok | 06:33 |
| * timeless_xchat is using opera | 06:33 | |
| timeless_xchat | anyway, we just pushed off | 06:33 |
| timeless_xchat | bye! | 06:33 |
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| sanjeev1 | HI All | 07:04 |
| sanjeev1 | Anybody know ssh support in Meego | 07:04 |
| berndhs | sanjeev1: its there | 07:04 |
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| sanjeev1 | yup | 07:04 |
| sanjeev1 | sanjeev this side | 07:05 |
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| akk | When installing a new meego image (as in https://meego.com/devices/netbook/installing-meego-your-netbook) do I dd to /dev/sdf or /dev/sdf1 ? I'm assuming /dev/sdf but the page doesn't say. | 07:06 |
| sanjeev1 | Anybody used ssh in meego | 07:08 |
| gabrbedd | akk: /dev/sdf (assuming 'f' is the right drive) | 07:08 |
| gabrbedd | sanjeev1: I use it every day. | 07:08 |
| berndhs | sanjeev1: yes i use it every day | 07:08 |
| akk | Thanks! (and yes, it's definitely f) | 07:08 |
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| akk | sanjeev1: I've used ssh too, works fine. | 07:09 |
| sanjeev1 | How to add support for ssh? | 07:09 |
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| berndhs | zypper install openssh-server | 07:09 |
| sanjeev1 | is any ssh client is required ? | 07:09 |
| sanjeev1 | berndhs: zypper install openssh-server will do everythnig | 07:10 |
| gabrbedd | sanjeev1: I think the ssh client is installed by default. | 07:10 |
| akk | I didn't have to install anything, it just worked. | 07:10 |
| jykae | hi akk :) | 07:11 |
| sanjeev1 | If it is installed default then only openssh-server need to install | 07:11 |
| gabrbedd | sanjeev1: If you want to log into your meego device from another computer, then you'll have to have the `openssh-server` package installed. | 07:11 |
| sanjeev1 | Does this https://github.com/abock/meego-ssh-tools serves the purpose | 07:12 |
| akk | hi jykae! | 07:12 |
| gabrbedd | sanjeev1: I have no idea what that is or what it's for. | 07:13 |
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| berndhs | sanjeev1: you dont need any extra tools, just terminal | 07:14 |
| akk | Heh, the tablet image doesn't enable touchscreen for grub (or whatever the bootloader is) -- can't boot or install without a keyboard. :) | 07:14 |
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| sanjeev1 | Thanks gabrbedd & berndhs | 07:15 |
| ieatlint | not sure there is a touchscreen enabled grub… there's probably a timeout on grub though, so it should boot the first target after N seconds | 07:15 |
| sanjeev1 | Not seeing carsten today online | 07:15 |
| gabrbedd | akk: true. however several tablets are including up/down/enter buttons. | 07:15 |
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| gabrbedd | sanjeev1: I think he's been on vacation. | 07:16 |
| berndhs | probably going to SF by boat | 07:16 |
| akk | gabrbedd: I have one of the ExoPCs. | 07:16 |
| akk | If I plug in a keyboard, I get past the grub screen, but then I just get a blank screen with a blinking cursor. | 07:17 |
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| gabrbedd | akk: hmmm... that's strange. :-/ | 07:17 |
| sanjeev1 | By boat then he will return Next Month hahaha | 07:17 |
| akk | Ah, it was confused by my plugging in the keyboard (or maybe plugging in the power supply). | 07:18 |
| sanjeev1 | gabrbedd & berndhs you guys are also with carsten | 07:18 |
| akk | I powered off, then powered on with both of those already plugged in and now it's booting. | 07:18 |
| akk | The ExoPC's home button (or whatever you call that thing) moves the grub item down one, but doesn't "hit return" so you still can't boot without a kbd. | 07:19 |
| berndhs | i dont even know where in the world carsten resides :) | 07:19 |
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| IanWizard-Mobile | anybody know how well netbook 1.2 would work on a smaller screen? 7" 800x480 | 07:20 |
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| IanWizard-Mobile | 1.1 couldn't handle it, and I don't want to download it if it won't be worth it. (slow connection) | 07:22 |
| akk | Okay, I have this booting from usb (yay!) -- should it be relatively safe to boot off meego-tablet-ia32-pinetrail-1.2.80.0.20110503.2.img and say "Install" on an ExoPC? | 07:23 |
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| gabrbedd | akk: define "safe" :-) | 07:25 |
| gabrbedd | IanWizard-Mobile: I don't know that much has changed on the netbook ediiton. | 07:25 |
| akk | "has a reasonable chance of working assuming nothing pathological happens" :) | 07:25 |
| berndhs | if you dont value what's on the system before, its safe | 07:25 |
| akk | I'm not looking for ironclad guarantees, just don't want to do it if it's not ever meant to work. | 07:25 |
| gabrbedd | akk: yes | 07:26 |
| sanjeev1 | it's strange you dont know Meego Guy Carsten | 07:26 |
| akk | cool, I'll try it. | 07:26 |
| gabrbedd | akk: oh wait... | 07:26 |
| gabrbedd | 1.2.80 ?? | 07:26 |
| gabrbedd | sorry... | 07:26 |
| gabrbedd | I have no idea if that will even work yet. | 07:26 |
| akk | oh, hmm | 07:26 |
| gabrbedd | too late? | 07:26 |
| gabrbedd | :-/ | 07:26 |
| akk | is there a different version I should be installing? | 07:26 |
| berndhs | 1.2.0 | 07:27 |
| gabrbedd | akk: 1.2.80.x is the development version for 1.3. AFAIK it's totally broken. | 07:27 |
| akk | oh, ok | 07:27 |
| gabrbedd | You wasnt a 1.2.0.x verions. | 07:27 |
| akk | How do I tell what I'm running now, btw? | 07:27 |
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| IanWizard-Mobile | ask, name -a may say | 07:27 |
| gabrbedd | akk: cat /etc/meego-release | 07:28 |
| gabrbedd | akk: That's about as close as you can get. | 07:28 |
| IanWizard-Mobile | akk, uname -a. may say | 07:28 |
| IanWizard-Mobile | akk, go with what gabrbedd said | 07:29 |
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| ieatlint | there may also be "lsb_release -a", which will give additional details sometimes | 07:30 |
| IanWizard-Mobile | what was said? I'd just left when I got an alert about my nick | 07:30 |
| ieatlint | can't easily start my meego tablet to test, but i know it's present on several linux distros | 07:31 |
| gabrbedd | IanWizard-Mobile: you didn't miss anything. | 07:31 |
| akk | 1.1.90 | 07:31 |
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| akk | .20110209 | 07:31 |
| IanWizard-Mobile | oh, ok. bye then :p | 07:31 |
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| akk | gabrbedd, berndhs: on the 1.2.0 download page there's no tablet version. Which one should I use on an ExoPC? | 07:34 |
| ieatlint | https://meego.com/downloads/releases/1.2/meego-tablet-developer-preview | 07:35 |
| akk | thanks, ieatlint | 07:36 |
| akk | I have a hard time navigating the meego.com pages ... haven't learned my way around yet | 07:36 |
| gabrbedd | akk: you're not alone. | 07:37 |
| jykae | search is most useful function to navigate there.. | 07:39 |
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| iekku | morning | 07:51 |
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| berndhs | yeah i know, i shouild go to sleep | 07:52 |
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| iekku | berndhs, and i slept long, usually i'm @ office this time | 07:52 |
| * iekku needs coffee to start packing | 07:54 | |
| gabrbedd | iekku's hear... time for me to go. :-p | 07:55 |
| gabrbedd | s/hear/here/ | 07:55 |
| infobot | gabrbedd meant: iekku's here... time for me to go. :-p | 07:55 |
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| gabrbedd | good night all! | 07:56 |
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| berndhs | good night | 07:56 |
| jykae | hey, we need to get that kindof typocorrector to meego-fi also :D | 07:56 |
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| iekku | berndhs, good night | 07:57 |
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| iekku | jykae, i think i could need personal one :P | 08:05 |
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| bkalinga | is meego1.2 officially released? | 08:31 |
| Stskeeps|holiday | its on meego.com | 08:32 |
| dm8tbr | time for 1.2.80 then :) | 08:33 |
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| bkalinga | i am planning to take the 1.2 from http://developer.meego.com/guides/getting-started/getting-started-meego-v1.2-sdk-linux | 08:53 |
| bkalinga | do i need to remove all older stuff from my system | 08:53 |
| bkalinga | i have MeeGo sdk 1.1.99 dev preview | 08:53 |
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| Cherrot | It seems that MeeGo SDK 1.2 doesn't support Ubuntu 11.04.. | 09:11 |
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| gandhijee | hey, how do i invoke the meego toolchain to custom compile a kernel? | 09:20 |
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| Termana | morning | 09:27 |
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| eg81 | bkalinga: I suggest you to remove old stuff | 09:29 |
| maxw | eg81:morning | 09:29 |
| bkalinga | eg81: i can simply move everything from /usr/lib/madde/* right | 09:30 |
| eg81 | maxw: morning | 09:30 |
| maxw | eg81:I have some follow-up to the troubles I was previously experiencing | 09:30 |
| bkalinga | *remove | 09:30 |
| eg81 | bkalinga: you can mv madde madde.old :) | 09:30 |
| eg81 | then dpkg --remove meego-sdk I think | 09:31 |
| eg81 | maxw: what problems you have now ? | 09:31 |
| maxw | eg81:other people here had cause to upgrade their graphics drivers to those provided with fedora15 and so I did the same, and everything now works pretty much as I expected. | 09:31 |
| maxw | eg81:so I am blaming the graphics driver. | 09:32 |
| bkalinga | dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove meego-sdk which isn't installed. | 09:32 |
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| maxw | eg81:previously, moving my browser window from right-to-left on the screen was fast, but it was terribly slow from left-to-right; for example...that wasn't much of a problem, but just a bad sign. | 09:33 |
| bkalinga | do i need to manually remove all targets and runtime using mad-admin remove target *? | 09:33 |
| maxw | eg81:also, remember the fonts in the emulator was rendered as white blocks? well, they're fine now too | 09:33 |
| eg81 | bkalinga: in general no if you will do mv madde madde.old then no need to do manyal removal | 09:34 |
| eg81 | maxw: :) great | 09:34 |
| maxw | eg81: so, now no real problems any more....just wanted to thank you for your help and record in the chat logs that the issue was resolved, as a pointer for others | 09:34 |
| bkalinga | that consumes a huge space ~10Gb | 09:34 |
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| eg81 | then remove :) | 09:34 |
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| eg81 | maybe that's important only for me when I scan trough bug reports and sometimes check different stuff, therefore I need old files from madde | 09:35 |
| bkalinga | actually i am searching for a cleaner way of removal..so that no dust will be there during 1.2 installation | 09:35 |
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| eg81 | as much as I know it's enough to remove meego- packages from your system | 09:36 |
| eg81 | and check whether there are no leaves in madde (especialy in cache/conf.d) | 09:36 |
| bkalinga | i can list out targets and runtimes using mad-admin | 09:37 |
| bkalinga | but what about remove meego- packages? | 09:37 |
| eg81 | dpkg --list | grep meego- | 09:37 |
| eg81 | or it depends on your system's packager | 09:37 |
| eg81 | rpm -qa | grep meego- | 09:37 |
| bkalinga | after removing targets and runtimes if i remove the /usr/lib/madde/* then every thing must be cleaned -My assumption- | 09:38 |
| eg81 | bkalinga: right | 09:39 |
| bkalinga | yes i can see dpkg --list | grep meego- output several meego -packages | 09:39 |
| bkalinga | i ll follow all three to clean...thanks eg81 | 09:39 |
| eg81 | dpkg --list | grep meego- | xargs dpkg --remove (or --purge) | 09:39 |
| bkalinga | then no need to use mad-admin remove ? | 09:40 |
| jarkko^ | pkcon search name meego- should work on most distros :) | 09:40 |
| jarkko^ | packagekit command-line interface | 09:41 |
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| eg81 | bkalinga: no, if you will remove madde directory then you don't need to remove targets and runtimes | 09:42 |
| eg81 | because everything is in that /usr/lib/madde/ | 09:42 |
| bkalinga | ok thanks a lot eg81...any modification for PATH variable required after removing ? | 09:43 |
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| eg81 | no | 09:49 |
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| andreizro | hy all. I noticed that armv7l is not part of the MeeGo 1.2.0 release. why is that? | 10:17 |
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| eg81 | andreizro: now there is armv7hl from N900DE | 10:35 |
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| andreizro | eg81: ok, but does this mean MeeGo will stop supporting ARMv7? | 10:42 |
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| timoph | andreizro: arm port moved to hard floating point (announced back in december iirc) so the arm images should be armv7hl. Dunno why there aren't handset images but if you're looking to try it with n900 the developer edition is the thing | 10:43 |
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| timoph | arm support hasn't gone anyway. There's no x86 handset images either in 1.2 release | 10:44 |
| timoph | s/anyway/anywhere/ | 10:45 |
| infobot | timoph meant: arm support hasn't gone anywhere. There's no x86 handset images either in 1.2 release | 10:45 |
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| priyanka | HI I m facing issues while building rpm-python package from meego 1.1 release area it says rpm.spec not found complte log at http://pastie.org/1930504 | 10:46 |
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| timoph | safe guess would be that there was no point making a handset release after the mess back in february. Although some announcement about not making handset images a part of the release would've been nice (if this is the case) | 10:47 |
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| andreizro | timoph: I am interesting on running MeeGo on a a Beaglboard and I don't think armv7hl works in beagle | 10:47 |
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| timoph | AFAIK it should work. dunno if it needs some drivers recompiled or something | 10:49 |
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| timoph | you might want to ask in #meego-arm if someone knows better | 10:50 |
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| timoph | although the many of the arm guys might be travelling towards SF currently | 10:51 |
| timoph | -the :/ | 10:51 |
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| gandhijee | hey if i just wanted to throw a quick launcher together thats a script where would i find the directory structure that meego puts its icons in ? | 10:52 |
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| alterego | gan/usr/share/icons | 10:58 |
| vgrade | wassupnari, hi | 10:58 |
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| gandhijee | alterego: thanks | 11:03 |
| gandhijee | actually i guess what i meant to ask is where are those desktop entries, are they in a registry of sorts | 11:04 |
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| alterego | /usr/share/applications | 11:05 |
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| wassupnari | vgrade : hi, | 11:06 |
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| wassupnari | vgrade : I'm currently working on sensor device, and i briefly checked the structure of sensorfw. | 11:08 |
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| wassupnari | vgrade : i think sensorfw uses sysfs to open the device file by 'adaptor', is it right? | 11:09 |
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| gandhijee | thanks, so i can place my entries there by myself and the meego ui will show the icons | 11:12 |
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| vgrade | wassupnari, Sorry I'm not familiar with sensorfw, do you have a specific issue with your device? | 11:15 |
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| wassupnari | vgrade : i'm trying to enable accelerometer and gyro sensor, but it seems like sensorfw cannot open the device file | 11:17 |
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| wassupnari | vgrade : i already check the same kernel driver codes under android, it works well.. | 11:18 |
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| wassupnari | vgrade : i just want to know the exact interface with device driver and sensorfw :) | 11:18 |
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| * thiago decides not to use the MeeGo Conf template | 11:30 | |
| w00t_ | thiago: you rebel | 11:31 |
| thiago | I don't like the 16:9 thing | 11:31 |
| thiago | wastes space | 11:31 |
| thiago | and the font is waaaay too big | 11:31 |
| w00t_ | thiago: when do you arrive in SF? | 11:31 |
| * alterego has a shower and continues packing | 11:31 | |
| thiago | tomorrow evening | 11:31 |
| w00t_ | :-) | 11:32 |
| alterego | drinks in hyatt bar tomorrow eve btw :) | 11:32 |
| w00t_ | ~11:30am for me | 11:32 |
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| * thiago ponders that Nokia Large 32pt seems smaller than Nokia Sans Wide 28pt | 11:33 | |
| alterego | I'll be getting to LHR about 11ish, flight is at 1.30 | 11:33 |
| alterego | arrive in sf 15:30 | 11:33 |
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| ieatlint | there are better bars than the hotel bar ;) | 11:36 |
| alterego | ieatlint: no doubt it's just easier for us to all meet there as people fly in | 11:37 |
| * alterego is very excited :) | 11:37 | |
| alterego | Anyhow, need a shower | 11:37 |
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| ieatlint | fair enough :P | 11:37 |
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| priyanka | HI I m facing issues while building rpm-python package from meego 1.1 release area it says rpm.spec not found complte log at http://pastie.org/1930504 | 11:41 |
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| vgrade | wassupnari, I guess you've seen, http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-middleware/sensorfw/blobs/master/doc/PLUGIN-GUIDE. This also includes emails of the sensorfw devs who should be able to answer your query | 12:00 |
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| vgrade | wassupnari, also bug 6877 | 12:01 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6877 enh, Undecided, 1.1.80.5, markus.lehtonen, RESO READYFORINTEGRATION, [FEA] Sensor framework should define a guide for driver interface implementation | 12:01 |
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| gandhijee | so i created some .desktop files in side my home directory but they don't seem to show up | 12:19 |
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| wassupnari | vgrade : thank you!! :) | 12:55 |
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| naquad | http://wiki.meego.com/PXE_boot_server - this article says about some tarball containing vmlinuz and initrd. where is it? | 13:00 |
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| jsv | sampos: this was one of yours, I think ^ | 13:02 |
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| sampos | jsv: yes, lemme check | 13:04 |
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| sampos | naquad,jsv: http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/QA-tools/Autotest-guide#Netbook | 13:06 |
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| naquad | sampos, thank you | 13:07 |
| naquad | sampos, a lazy q: will it work with 1.2? | 13:07 |
| sampos | naquad: it's more like will it work on your netbook. | 13:08 |
| naquad | kk thanks | 13:08 |
| sampos | meego release does not matter there i guess. but it was tested only witch samsung nc10 | 13:08 |
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| gandhijee | how do i start an app in the gui as soon as the gui loads | 13:29 |
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| priyanka | hi I m trying Meego IVI 1.1 on my Intel Machine the mouse fails to launch any icon on the home screen | 13:52 |
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| bkalinga | can i try meego 1.2 on Ubuntu 11.04 | 14:10 |
| bkalinga | is it worth trying or not supported | 14:11 |
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| thiago | bkalinga: you can try meego. | 14:19 |
| thiago | that has no bearing on the distribution you're using | 14:20 |
| thiago | it's like asking if you can try ubuntu on opensuse or fedora | 14:20 |
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| bkalinga | right ..that should be the case... Morning i was reading at a place saying supported on Ubuntu(10.04,10.10) | 14:21 |
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| bkalinga | so just wondered is something known about 11.04..so thought of asking here without spending any time | 14:22 |
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| thiago | the SDK is supported on distributions | 14:24 |
| thiago | meego itself is a distribution | 14:24 |
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| naquad | how do i download packages from build.meego.com? | 14:28 |
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| thiago | from repo.meego.com | 14:28 |
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| naquad | thiago, i know that, but for example: http://build.meego.com/package/files?package=kernel&project=MeeGo%3A1.2.0%3Aoss | 14:29 |
| naquad | thiago, i can't download software package itself | 14:29 |
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| naquad | thiago, there's just no download link | 14:29 |
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| jsv | naquad: select repo you want from list on overview page, there's a download repo link inside | 14:37 |
| naquad | jsv, i want to download sources | 14:37 |
| naquad | not package | 14:38 |
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| jsv | looks like you can at least get the .src.rpm from the repo page | 14:40 |
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| naquad | jsv, i don't know how to modify srpms and build them :( imho it absolutely stupid to don't provide software distro download link =\ | 14:41 |
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| bkalinga | hi i want to develope a ime driver for which i installed sudo zypper install meegotouch-inputmethodengine-devel | 14:50 |
| bkalinga | but i don't see the the dependent .h file in my Host system from where i am running meego-sdk-qtcreator | 14:50 |
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| bkalinga | i searched mimenginetypes.h in my /usr/lib/madde/linux-i686/sysroots/meego-handset-ia32-madde-sysroot-1.1.99.4.20110426.4-fs/ | 14:52 |
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| bkalinga | its not there but when i search the same file in meego@[meego-handset-sdk]::/$ sudo find -name mimenginetypes.h | 14:52 |
| bkalinga | it is there at ./usr/include/meego/meegoimengine/mimenginetypes.h | 14:53 |
| bkalinga | now how can i refer this file to the INCLUDE PATH in .pro file | 14:53 |
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| lcuk | bkalinga, araujo or mikas might be able to specifically help, which sdk are you using? | 14:59 |
| bkalinga | ok .. i am using 1.1.99.4 | 15:00 |
| lcuk | bkalinga, http://wiki.meego.com/Maliit/Installing might perhaps help | 15:01 |
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| lcuk | the complete maliit documentation is http://wiki.meego.com/Maliit | 15:01 |
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| lcuk | bkalinga, what kind of input method are you wanting to create? | 15:05 |
| bkalinga | i dont want to create a input method just to add a errorcorrection plug in | 15:05 |
| lcuk | cool | 15:06 |
| lcuk | the team hang out in #meego-inputmethods (not sure who is around just now) and are a friendly bunch | 15:06 |
| bkalinga | my plugin must be compile against meegoimengine if i am correct | 15:06 |
| bkalinga | for that the installed the dev package | 15:07 |
| lcuk | yes I believe so | 15:07 |
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| bkalinga | but i dont see headers and the lib reflecting in my host file system | 15:07 |
| bkalinga | my set up is a madde+qemu runtime | 15:08 |
| bkalinga | i installed the package from qemu prompt | 15:08 |
| bkalinga | so includes and library must be accessed by meego-sdk-qtcreator right? | 15:08 |
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| lcuk | bkalinga, not sure. did you install the sdk components individually, or using the graphical allinone installer? | 15:12 |
| lcuk | ie: http://wiki.meego.com/SDK/Docs/1.2/Installing_and_configuring_MeeGo_SDK_for_Linux#Install_the_MeeGo_SDK | 15:12 |
| bkalinga | lcuk: i am still using 1.1.99.4 :) | 15:13 |
| bkalinga | have not updated | 15:13 |
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| bkalinga | also one thing i notice if i create a file inside qemu prompt i.e meego SDK file system | 15:14 |
| bkalinga | i am not able to see that in my host system (Ubuntu) | 15:14 |
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| eg81 | bkalinga: hmm but how you want to see this file if it's creaton on some virtual image | 15:21 |
| naquad | i'm getting this error during rpmbuild -bb kernel.spec: FATAL: arch/x86/platform/built-in.o has no symtab? - any ideas what's wrong with it? | 15:22 |
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| bkalinga | if it not possible; then how can I use a dev package which is not part of a runtime initially | 15:23 |
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| bkalinga | i dont understand even though it is a virtual image.. some files are downloaded using zypper install | 15:24 |
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| bkalinga | where they went ..they must be in my Host Ubuntu's File system..as once i install a package ..they are persistent even though i reboot my system | 15:25 |
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| lcuk | bkalinga, virtual images are writable | 15:26 |
| lcuk | you add new things to them and they act like real disk to the OS within them | 15:26 |
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| bkalinga | if they are writable why cant i see the contents from my ubuntu host | 15:29 |
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| bkalinga | if it supposed to work that way i don't have any issues | 15:30 |
| bkalinga | but there must be a way for developer to link and work from qtcreator | 15:30 |
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| lcuk | bkalinga, which folder path in ubunutu are you expecting to see the contents of files added within the sdk/qemu? | 15:31 |
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| bkalinga | its not he host's qtcreator but customized meego-sdk-qtcreator | 15:31 |
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| bkalinga | kalinga@kalinga-desktop:/usr/lib/madde/linux-i686/sysroots/meego-handset-ia32-madde-sysroot-1.1.99.4.20110426.4-fs/usr/include$ | 15:31 |
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| bkalinga | expect same content as "meego@[meego-handset-sdk]::/usr/include$ " | 15:32 |
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| eg81 | bkalinga: you are wrong | 15:42 |
| eg81 | this sysroot it's just for building apps on your computer | 15:42 |
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| eg81 | there is possibility to mount virtual image and see those files from host | 15:43 |
| bkalinga | you mean they don't share any content? | 15:44 |
| eg81 | no | 15:44 |
| eg81 | virtual image or runtime is just a file on your ubuntu (host) system | 15:44 |
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| eg81 | single raw file | 15:45 |
| bkalinga | then let say some dependency is there for your app ...how do you get the package and resolve? | 15:45 |
| eg81 | dependency == library ? then you should install it on host system to the sysroot and on runtime (qemu) | 15:47 |
| eg81 | currently there is no official way to do that | 15:48 |
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| eg81 | if there is an rpm package for that library then you can use mad-admin xrpm (to extract content of rpm package to specified sysroot directory on your host system) | 15:49 |
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| bkalinga | ok then i can do scp of the rpm that i get using zypper from qemu/sdk to my host and then use mad-admin xrpm? | 15:51 |
| bkalinga | eg81: please correct me | 15:51 |
| eg81 | that's correct | 15:52 |
| bkalinga | thanks a lot ...my concept changed today...i was holding this concept for a long time (seeing the content of qemu/sdk in host system) | 15:53 |
| bkalinga | :) | 15:53 |
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| eg81 | :) | 16:01 |
| bkalinga | kalinga@kalinga-desktop:/usr/lib/madde/linux-i686/sysroots/meego-handset-ia32-madde-sysroot-1.1.99.4.20110426.4-fs$ sudo mad-admin xrpm meegotouch-inputmethodengine-devel-0.4.5-1.21.i586.rpm | 16:02 |
| bkalinga | MADDE target not found/set. | 16:02 |
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| eg81 | bkalinga: so it says that you need to set target :) | 16:04 |
| bkalinga | sudo mad-admin set meego-handset-ia32-trunk-1.1.99.4.20110426.4 | 16:05 |
| eg81 | mad-admin -t target_name xrpm file.rpm | 16:05 |
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| bkalinga | mad-admin -t meego-handset-ia32-trunk-1.1.99.4.20110426.4 xrpm meegotouch-inputmethodengine-devel-0.4.5-1.21.i586.rpm | 16:07 |
| bkalinga | does not output anything | 16:07 |
| bkalinga | even the required file is not installed | 16:08 |
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| bkalinga | sudo mad-admin -t meego-handset-ia32-trunk-1.1.99.4.20110426.4 xrpm -i meegotouch-inputmethodengine-devel-0.4.5-1.21.i586.rpm | 16:09 |
| bkalinga | '-> ./usr/lib/libmeegoimengin': cpio file info format not supported | 16:10 |
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| bkalinga | now what is the problem | 16:14 |
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| eg81 | :) madde do not want to play with your package | 16:17 |
| bkalinga | u mean it wont let me install this .rpm | 16:17 |
| eg81 | yeah, but I know another "secret" way how to extract this rpm :D | 16:18 |
| eg81 | rpm2cpio LIBRARY.rpm | cpio -idmv | 16:18 |
| bkalinga | but its for i586 so why it is compaining | 16:18 |
| eg81 | but if I remmember corectly frist you need to chdir to that dir | 16:18 |
| bkalinga | which dir the destination one? | 16:19 |
| eg81 | it can be some madde bug/feature, I don't know | 16:19 |
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| eg81 | yeah, to target (sysroot) | 16:19 |
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| bkalinga | cpio: ./etc/ld.so.conf.d/meegotouch-inputmethodengine.conf: Cannot open: Permission denied | 16:20 |
| bkalinga | even though i ran using sudo | 16:20 |
| eg81 | :) | 16:21 |
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| bkalinga | http://pastebin.com/F9gQJDq0 | 16:21 |
| eg81 | cmmon | 16:22 |
| eg81 | you need to write sudo twice | 16:22 |
| eg81 | or once but before cpio | 16:22 |
| eg81 | not before rpm2cpio | 16:22 |
| eg81 | rpm2cpio LIBRARY.rpm | sudo cpio -idmv | 16:22 |
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| eg81 | as cpio requires rights to write | 16:23 |
| eg81 | first just create stream | 16:23 |
| bkalinga | ohh :) | 16:23 |
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| eg81 | it's a friday time to relax :) | 16:23 |
| bkalinga | done now...thanks a lot | 16:23 |
| bkalinga | u made my day and leaving for the day now.. | 16:24 |
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| bkalinga | wish u a great weekend .. | 16:24 |
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| lcuk | lots of nice looking items on the n900-de status page | 16:30 |
| lcuk | http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Status | 16:30 |
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| lcuk | still some random items pending | 16:30 |
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| luist | where do i get PyQt4 for meego? | 17:33 |
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| gabrbedd | luist: I believe it's called "pyside" and I think there's a pyside project in OBS that you could use. | 17:35 |
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| alterego | Jaffa: ping | 17:48 |
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| lcuk | holy hell! | 18:05 |
| lcuk | http://developers.slashdot.org/story/11/05/19/2338209/Confirmed-Microsoft-Says-It-Will-Open-Source-VB-6 | 18:05 |
| lcuk | :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D | 18:05 |
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| lcuk | oh bah | 18:05 |
| Termana | lcuk, OMFG | 18:06 |
| * lcuk sulks again - that would have been awesome | 18:06 | |
| Termana | you have RATTED yourself out :p | 18:07 |
| Termana | A MS and VB6 lover | 18:07 |
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| Termana | :D | 18:07 |
| lcuk | Termana, I have always been pleased with vb6 | 18:08 |
| lcuk | liqbase is categorised in github as visual basic :P | 18:08 |
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| * fiferboy is dissapointed there is still no qt MySQL in MeeGo 1.2 | 18:16 | |
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| lcuk | fiferboy, did you use mysql previously, or is something like sqlite still better? | 18:19 |
| lcuk | the way I understood it, sqlite was similar to ms access - where single user local file accessed db was reasonable performance wise? | 18:19 |
| fiferboy | I use sqlite for local database storage and it is fine | 18:20 |
| fiferboy | Easy to use and create new databases and so forth | 18:20 |
| fiferboy | Bu I use mysql for remote database support | 18:20 |
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| berndhs | fiferboy: so you just want the client qt-mysql ? | 18:22 |
| fiferboy | berndhs: Yes | 18:22 |
| fiferboy | Which I take it needs the mysql-client library package | 18:23 |
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| fiferboy | Which is for some reason also not available | 18:23 |
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| gabrbedd | lcuk: This is correct... except I've never found MS Access's performance to be reasonable. SQLite is frigging fast (especially with the right indices set up) | 18:24 |
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| lcuk | yeah gabrbedd | 18:26 |
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| gabrbedd | lcuk: I've got some db's where I do the heavy lifting in sqlite and then export the data to access for consumption by the MS-loving masses. | 18:30 |
| fiferboy | Looks like I'll have to recompile Qt with mysql enabled, and find the mysql client library somewhere | 18:30 |
| lcuk | gabrbedd, so how do you import/export the data? | 18:30 |
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| luist | hey guys.. i had a python app that had everything translated… but i updated some stuff and now my text has the special characters all messed.. like ç ã à etc… could it be any package in the system? | 18:31 |
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| lcuk | luist, if it worked before you updated a package and doesn't work now, I am guessing the answer could be yes | 18:32 |
| lcuk | have you tried (win answer) rebooting? | 18:32 |
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| gabrbedd | lcuk: python + pywin32 (for COM interface) + pysqlite2 | 18:33 |
| lcuk | gabrbedd, is that easy to have end users installing and stuff? | 18:34 |
| lcuk | or is this something you do and just offer out the data | 18:34 |
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| lcuk | todays n900-de image includes kasvopus | 18:36 |
| lcuk | but it just opens screen | 18:36 |
| luist | lcuk: yes :T | 18:36 |
| lcuk | and does not allow any actions, not even close | 18:36 |
| gabrbedd | lcuk: End users just get the .mdb. The script that daily fetches and indexes data uses all that pythong stuff. | 18:36 |
| lcuk | so now the n900-de is simply kasvopus | 18:36 |
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| gabrbedd | lcuk: If the end users /wanted/ sqlite -- I would gladly share it with them, though. | 18:37 |
| berndhs | do the end users know anything about it ? | 18:37 |
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| gabrbedd | lcuk: Most of them don't understand SQL... so if it's not gooey, it's over their heads. | 18:37 |
| gabrbedd | berndhs: ^^ | 18:38 |
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| lcuk | gabrbedd, yeah | 18:39 |
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| lcuk | does anyone know the bug number for 3rd party bugs? | 18:40 |
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| lcuk | ahhh bug 12589 | 18:41 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12589 nor, Undecided, ---, dawn.m.foster, NEW, Allow addition of 3rd party products into bugs.meego.com | 18:41 |
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| DawnFoster | not a fan of having to manage infrastructure for 3rd party products within the meego infrastructure | 18:42 |
| * Stskeeps|holiday neither | 18:43 | |
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| DawnFoster | 3rd party products should have their own bug tracker - plenty of free options available for poeple | 18:43 |
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| DawnFoster | we don't have enough it people to manage the infrastructure we already have - this would be a huge burden on the project that companies could take advantage of | 18:43 |
| DawnFoster | </end rant> | 18:44 |
| DawnFoster | ok, now back to preparing my MeeGo Conf State of the Community presentation ;) | 18:44 |
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| slaine | Hmmm, here come the Blackhawk's | 18:47 |
| slaine | I can hear them | 18:47 |
| slaine | There's probably a Chinook there too | 18:47 |
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| lcuk | DawnFoster, I know the complexities, other people will not though. there are bugs which should be filed somewhere, but I don't think in some of these cases they are upstream related | 18:50 |
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| DawnFoster | If it's a pure meego bug (not upstream) then we have places to file those | 18:51 |
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| DawnFoster | if it's a bug related to some 3rd party product (of which there will be thousands if meego succeeds), we just can't handle those | 18:52 |
| DawnFoster | the potential for abuse outweighs the potential benefit for a few confused people who don't know where to file things | 18:53 |
| lcuk | sure thing DawnFoster | 18:54 |
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| fiferboy | MeeGo 1.2 booting on N900 | 19:03 |
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| Stskeeps|holiday | DE? | 19:05 |
| luist | hey when i open a text file in 2 other systems it displays the text right, but when im opening in my meego (a customized version) my special characters (like ç ã à é) get all messed up…. could i be missing some package? | 19:05 |
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| fiferboy | Stskeeps|holiday: 1.2.0.90.0.20110517.1 | 19:06 |
| fiferboy | Doesn't say DE | 19:06 |
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| Stskeeps|holiday | ah | 19:06 |
| Stskeeps|holiday | wiki.meego.com/N900 images are far more interesting | 19:06 |
| fiferboy | Stskeeps|holiday: Is the newest DE what you would recommend? | 19:06 |
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| fiferboy | I will try one of those then :) | 19:07 |
| Stskeeps|holiday | 05.20-1 sanity | 19:07 |
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| Stskeeps|holiday | we kinda just ship 'working hw adaptation' in 1.2 | 19:07 |
| fiferboy | Downloading 05.20-1 santity now | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps|holiday | k | 19:09 |
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| papul | hi. i was wondering if meego would run on a lenovo laptop with celeron cpu | 19:19 |
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| gabrbedd | MeeGoBot: supported processors? | 19:20 |
| berndhs | papul: celeron? probably not | 19:20 |
| MeeGoBot | gabrbedd: iirc, Supported Processors are http://wiki.meego.com/Supported_Processors | 19:20 |
| gabrbedd | papul: ^^ | 19:20 |
| gabrbedd | papul: Also, if `cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep ssse3` give you nothing, then it's a definite no. | 19:22 |
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| fiferboy | MeeGo 1.2 DE booting on N900 | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps|holiday | better ;) | 19:30 |
| obcecado | i cant wait to try that out :-] | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps|holiday | first boots are always slow | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps|holiday | wait for it to setle | 19:30 |
| fiferboy | I like the splash screen | 19:30 |
| fiferboy | Once I copy the mmcblk0p to the card, is there a better way to dual boot than flashing the kernel back and forth? | 19:31 |
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| Stskeeps|holiday | uboot | 19:31 |
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| fiferboy | I have uboot installed, but I though copying the image to the card would let me run mmcboot | 19:33 |
| fiferboy | It doesn't seem to work for me | 19:33 |
| Stskeeps|holiday | dd the image to sd card, let uboot time out | 19:34 |
| Stskeeps|holiday | mmcboot doesnt do what you think it does, so :P | 19:34 |
| * alterego makes a sandwich | 19:35 | |
| fiferboy | So if I let uboot timeout, what does it boot into? MeeGo or stock? | 19:35 |
| alterego | Then, I'm going to go to the pub for a bit and think about whether I've forgotten anything. | 19:35 |
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| berndhs | alterego: it will come to you in the airplane, just as you taxi to the runway | 19:36 |
| alterego | :) | 19:37 |
| alterego | I'm travelling really light anyway. | 19:37 |
| alterego | I could fit everything I'm taking in hand luggage most probably. | 19:37 |
| Stskeeps|holiday | fiferboy: if sd card is bootable, it boots that. else maemo | 19:37 |
| alterego | But, I plan to bring a bit more back than I head out with. | 19:37 |
| alterego | So we'll see. | 19:37 |
| fiferboy | Stskeeps|holiday: Sweet, that is better than flashing kernels | 19:38 |
| fiferboy | Nice default background image :) | 19:38 |
| berndhs | consider shipping the new stuff back, could be less trouble | 19:38 |
| alterego | I'm considering wearing the new stuff ... | 19:39 |
| alterego | I don't even know if I'm going to be picking anything up anyway, funds are somewhat limited. | 19:40 |
| alterego | Probably a couple of small presents. | 19:40 |
| alterego | Maybe a new pair of shoes .. | 19:40 |
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| berndhs | there isnt really anything you can buy in SF that you can't buy in europe | 19:41 |
| alterego | I only buy footwear when I'm travelling. | 19:41 |
| alterego | Sure, it's not so much the availability or cost, more ritual :P | 19:41 |
| berndhs | the one thing is the place itself, and you can't transport that | 19:42 |
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| alterego | Yes, I will be taking loads of pictures | 19:42 |
| alterego | I will look like such a tourist :) | 19:43 |
| alterego | I might even get a I <3 SF tshirt and hat. | 19:43 |
| alterego | And just don that all week. | 19:43 |
| slaine | so jealous | 19:43 |
| RST38h | SF is cheaper | 19:43 |
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| slaine | never been to the states | 19:43 |
| RST38h | Especially when buyingelectronics | 19:43 |
| alterego | slaine: my first time :) | 19:43 |
| alterego | Yeah, everywhere is cheaper than here (UK) for pretty much everything | 19:43 |
| slaine | alterego: except ireland, we're dearer again | 19:44 |
| alterego | Yeah, Ireland is pretty expensive. | 19:44 |
| RST38h | More expensive than UK? | 19:44 |
| alterego | I went there a couple of years ago for my last job | 19:44 |
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| * RST38h makes a mental note: Stay away from Ireland. | 19:44 | |
| alterego | (Dublin) I spent more per Guinness there than I do at my local, and my local is ridiculously expensive | 19:44 |
| berndhs | that's what you get for living on an island, easier to control shipping | 19:45 |
| slaine | RST38h: yeah, we get our stuff from the UK and add markup | 19:45 |
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| alterego | Heh | 19:45 |
| * slaine notes it wasn't an island when we all moved here. | 19:45 | |
| alterego | I got my chinese knock off N900 (English) keypad today. | 19:45 |
| alterego | It's quite awful .. | 19:46 |
| thiago | what does it run? | 19:46 |
| berndhs | but its probably for your own protection in some way or other | 19:46 |
| alterego | thiago: it's just the keypad | 19:46 |
| alterego | I got an N900 with a finnish keypad, so I'm looking to swap it. | 19:46 |
| alterego | (the keypad) | 19:47 |
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| Stskeeps|holiday | thiago: do you plan to come by the staff meeting sat btw? | 19:47 |
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| thiago | Stskeeps|holiday: will be on the plane, so no | 19:48 |
| Stskeeps|holiday | alright | 19:48 |
| Stskeeps|holiday | and i guess dirk is in flight there too | 19:48 |
| alterego | What time saturday? | 19:48 |
| thiago | I think he arrives Sunday evening | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps|holiday | alterego: just conference one, nothing interesting | 19:49 |
| alterego | Ah, m'kay | 19:49 |
| alterego | I'll probably wander around for a few hours, then head to the bar about 7ish | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps|holiday | ok | 19:50 |
| Stskeeps|holiday | thiago: i'll take one for the team and go to the meeting representing PC then | 19:50 |
| * thiago lands 7:10 pm | 19:50 | |
| thiago | Stskeeps|holiday: thanks | 19:50 |
| alterego | I can't believe people are talking about overclocking an OMAP3650 to over 1Ghz .. | 19:50 |
| thiago | Stskeeps|holiday: we have two submissions to rate | 19:50 |
| alterego | That's already pushing it imo | 19:50 |
| thiago | Stskeeps|holiday: the BoF one let's do between the two of us. The talk one, let's see if dirk answers email tonight? | 19:51 |
| Stskeeps|holiday | thiago: ok | 19:51 |
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| delac_ | where are 3G connection parameters stored? I'm having bit of a problem connecting and would like to check them. Unfortunately the Networks tab doesn't provide any way to check your settings... | 19:53 |
| fiferboy | Wow, N900 DE has really improved | 19:53 |
| fiferboy | Very nice job | 19:53 |
| thiago | Stskeeps|holiday: want me to do the honours of sending the email? | 19:54 |
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| thiago | Stskeeps|holiday: or do you have a technique? I do a lot of copy/pasting. | 19:55 |
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| Stskeeps|holiday | thiago: i am on n900 only so its difficult | 19:55 |
| thiago | ah, ok | 19:55 |
| thiago | will do it then | 19:55 |
| Stskeeps|holiday | thiago: 'unformatted' tab on session moderation | 19:55 |
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| thiago | copy/pasting done | 19:58 |
| thiago | sent | 19:58 |
| Stskeeps|holiday | ta | 19:59 |
| thiago | do you want to go first? | 19:59 |
| Stskeeps|holiday | will do | 19:59 |
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| sivang | hi all | 20:49 |
| sivang | greetings from San Francisco | 20:49 |
| sivang | ! | 20:49 |
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| sivang | is there a channel for the conference? | 20:49 |
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| sivang | as in #meego-con | 20:49 |
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| Matan[M] | dont look behind of you! poppy seed eye is watching you now! | 21:00 |
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| gabrbedd | auke: does xfwm4 have a "fullscreen everything option" ? | 21:02 |
| gabrbedd | auke: Also a "no title bars or window frames" option? | 21:02 |
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| auke | gabrbedd: no such option, xfwm4 is more of a classical wm - it's not meant for embedded etc. | 21:19 |
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| gabrbedd | auke: Thanks. | 21:22 |
| auke | gabrbedd: the idea is not to pick something specific | 21:22 |
| auke | but something that 'works' and 'is usable for general development' | 21:23 |
| auke | in other words, something with a file manager, and some generally accepted base desktop ui features present | 21:23 |
| auke | a menu | 21:23 |
| auke | start buttons | 21:23 |
| gabrbedd | auke: It's not that... it's the "replace mcompositor so I can ship" thing. | 21:23 |
| gabrbedd | auke: matchbox is working ok... but I wondered if I gave up to easy on xfwm4 | 21:24 |
| lcuk | auke, furry dice? | 21:24 |
| auke | the TV guys are using matchbox I think | 21:24 |
| auke | lcuk: there's plenty of that in xfce lol | 21:24 |
| lcuk | cool | 21:24 |
| auke | xfce.org -> projects, or even goodies.xfce.org | 21:25 |
| auke | I'm trying to make the xfce pattern pretty well-rounded with base apps, some minor theming that will work on small screens etc. | 21:25 |
| auke | I made a default panel for instance, just one, that autohides | 21:26 |
| auke | applied theming to make menu's look ok, icons present etc. | 21:26 |
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| fredy | Does anybody successfully installed the SDK using the GUI installer? | 21:42 |
| fredy | i keep getting installer errors and retry does not work | 21:43 |
| fredy | the SDK 1.2 i mean | 21:43 |
| berndhs | fredy: i installed it on fedora 14, worked fine. tried on F15, no dice | 21:44 |
| fredy | hhhmm | 21:45 |
| fredy | good, but what about ubuntu or kubuntu? | 21:45 |
| fredy | anybody tried on these distros? | 21:45 |
| berndhs | i dont know | 21:45 |
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| fredy | I've found these therad on the forum: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=3376 | 21:51 |
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| fredy | Has anyone had the same error? | 21:51 |
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| thiago | Stskeeps|holiday: sent my votes | 22:35 |
| thiago | Stskeeps|holiday: check the time suggestion please | 22:35 |
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| * thiago needs to start packing now | 22:37 | |
| thiago | 14 hours to the first flight | 22:37 |
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| newbie007 | Greetings, I am wondering if MeeGo is open source? And is it open as in Maemo (not really) or Debian? | 23:43 |
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| gabrbedd | newbie007: Yes it is. More like Ubuntu, as far as openness goes. | 23:44 |
| newbie007 | I was stoked about Honeycomb until I found about the location aware garbage. Not that I'm that concerned, I just find it very creepy | 23:45 |
| * newbie007 would be interested in getting it to run on a nook color | 23:46 | |
| newbie007 | this isn't going to support ARM is it..... shoot | 23:47 |
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| CosmoHill | newbie007: google, wikipedia and www.meego.com | 23:49 |
| gabrbedd | MeeGoBot: supported processors? | 23:49 |
| MeeGoBot | gabrbedd: Well, Supported Processors are http://wiki.meego.com/Supported_Processors | 23:50 |
| gabrbedd | newbie007: ^^ | 23:50 |
| newbie007 | pretty funny that it does, awesome | 23:50 |
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