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| npm | is there some special trick to get meego 1.2 qml video element to work? i have simple test example that behaves w/ same prob as all meego-tablet apps on this netbook, outputting QDBusPlayerControl::QDBusPlayerControl() and if I do video.pause() it outputs "QDBusPlayerControl::paulse() " (sic) | 00:11 |
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| npm | QDBusPlayerControl::position(): 0 is output after cueing forward whiich outputs message QDBusPlayerControl::setPosition(): 5000 | 00:13 |
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| lcuk | npm, filed bugs ? | 00:14 |
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| npm | given the potchkitude of my setup, it might be ill advised | 00:15 |
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| npm | but for example maybe it's just sending out a dbus signal and expecting madeo-uplayer-0.1.5-1.1.noarch to be setup? | 00:19 |
| lcuk | npm, not sure | 00:19 |
| lcuk | but isn't there some kind of dbus monitor? | 00:19 |
| npm | by the way, what is the purpose of madeo-uplayer-0.1.5-1.1.noarch | 00:19 |
| lcuk | to allow you to try | 00:19 |
| * lcuk not sure | 00:19 | |
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| lcuk | I was just glancing over instead of reading slashdot | 00:19 |
| npm | any new news that can be spoken of here :-) :-) | 00:20 |
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| npm | well anyways, i now remember why i had the desktop nokia sdk installed on here w/ it's own vsn of qtmobility 1.1 | 00:24 |
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| renato | X-Fade, is possible to build for armv7 on meego DE repository? (public OBS) | 00:26 |
| lcuk | renato, I thought that was fully valid, each project can be built for numerous arches | 00:27 |
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| lcuk | <lcuk> Architectures: i586 x86_64 armv4l armv5el armv7el armv8el | 00:28 |
| renato | lcuk, but the current DE repository only have i586, armv8el targets | 00:28 |
| lcuk | hmm idk then | 00:29 |
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| * npm installs the real Qt Mobility 1.2 release instead of beta2: http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2011/05/12/qt-mobility-1-2-0-released/ | 00:32 | |
| npm | i mean beta0: qt-mobility-1.2.0~beta0+git2726-9.31.i586 | 00:33 |
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| lbt | renato: yes, it's possible... but I'm not sure who supports the base arch | 00:49 |
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| renato | lbt, I have edited the repository but not happens | 00:52 |
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| lbt | renato: yes... you need a project that supports it in order to build against it | 00:53 |
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| gandhijee | is there anyway to enable touchscreen in meego netbook? | 03:41 |
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| ssssssssss | does anyone have any idea on this? | 05:16 |
| ssssssssss | whenever I run mcompositor on my device | 05:17 |
| ssssssssss | my touchscreen dies | 05:17 |
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| ssssssssss | hmm | 05:36 |
| ssssssssss | no one rly talks here.. | 05:37 |
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| iekku | morning | 06:30 |
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| gabrbedd_ | iekku: howdy! | 06:41 |
| berndhs | man is it that late, iekku says good morning ? | 06:45 |
| gabrbedd_ | berndhs: yeah... I saw that and thought... "Crap! It's already midnight!" | 06:46 |
| gabrbedd_ | ...but he must be up early today. :-) | 06:46 |
| berndhs | had 2 hours of nice weather today | 06:48 |
| berndhs | too advantage, by standing in mud and digging a ditch | 06:48 |
| gabrbedd_ | berndhs: um... good call? | 06:49 |
| berndhs | had to be done, getting too swampy otherwise | 06:49 |
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| iekku | haha | 07:25 |
| iekku | gabrbedd_, btw, i'm not he | 07:25 |
| iekku | gabrbedd_, last time i checked i was female, hope nothing has changed ;) | 07:26 |
| gabrbedd_ | iekku: Ah! My apologies. | 07:26 |
| iekku | gabrbedd_, no problem, i do the same :D | 07:26 |
| gabrbedd_ | iekku: Well, I couldn't tell from your name... and /whois is rarely a help on this one. | 07:27 |
| iekku | :) | 07:27 |
| iekku | gabrbedd_, and my real name "iekku" doesn't tell even to finns my gender, since i'm the only iekku in finland :D | 07:27 |
| iekku | or i was first, don't know if there's others now | 07:28 |
| gabrbedd_ | iekku: that's neat. does it have any particular meaning? | 07:28 |
| iekku | gabrbedd_, not really, my parents just started to call me iekku when i was born, had to fight 16 years to get it as my legal first name... | 07:29 |
| iekku | gabrbedd_, from the area i'm from the "ee" is usually said "ie", i was eeva, usually they call eeva as ieva, so i think it comes from that, not sure | 07:30 |
| iekku | my mom doesn't recall | 07:30 |
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| gabrbedd_ | iekku: my wife and I had a hard time agreeing on names. | 07:31 |
| gabrbedd_ | iekku: I favored original, creative names. | 07:32 |
| gabrbedd_ | iekku: she liked respectible, jane-austin-novel names. | 07:32 |
| gabrbedd_ | :-) | 07:32 |
| iekku | haha | 07:32 |
| iekku | it was hard to name our lizards, i'm glad we don't have child | 07:33 |
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| maxw | eg81: you there? | 09:18 |
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| wassupnari | vgrade : hello, are you there? | 09:18 |
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| Santosh | Hi, I have the build 1.2.80.0.20110503.2 installed on my desktop. I was able to configure IP/Default gateway for the first time but now, Im not able change them. Once the network disconnects, it doesn't connect again! Can anyone pls help me with the issue? | 09:39 |
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| eg81 | maxw: I'm here | 09:44 |
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| maxw | hi | 09:44 |
| eg81 | ho | 09:44 |
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| maxw | I made a little progress....would like your opinion | 09:45 |
| maxw | I couldn't ssh in, but found http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_SDK_Troubleshooting#General_SDK_Errors and followed the instructions for 9) and that seemed to fix ssh...so now I can ssh in. | 09:45 |
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| maxw | it's still not booting though | 09:47 |
| maxw | I get the 'frame', but no UI | 09:47 |
| eg81 | maxw: hmm, could you check if 6666 port is open, e.g. with telnet 127.0.0.1 6666 | 09:47 |
| maxw | yeah, I've sshed in, so that's ok | 09:47 |
| maxw | well, I guess it *is* booting | 09:47 |
| maxw | but not the UI | 09:47 |
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| eg81 | ok | 09:48 |
| maxw | I see uxlaunch is having trbouel | 09:48 |
| maxw | > GLIB ERROR ** default - Key file contains line ' ELF^A^A^A' which is not a key-value pair, group, or comment aborting... | 09:48 |
| maxw | in /var/log/messages | 09:48 |
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| maxw | and before that > GLIB CRITICAL ** GLib - g_shell_unquote: assertion `quoted_string != NULL' failed | 09:49 |
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| maxw | I take it you managed to get the whole UI up and running, right? | 09:50 |
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| eg81 | yes | 09:52 |
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| eg81 | could you try to remove and create this target again ? | 09:52 |
| maxw | hrm..."again"? | 09:53 |
| maxw | I didn't create it. | 09:53 |
| maxw | I guess it came with the sdk, no? | 09:53 |
| eg81 | sudo mad-admin remove meego-tablet-ia32-qemu-1.2.0.0.0.20110516.6-runtime | 09:53 |
| eg81 | sudo mad-admin create -e -f meego-tablet-ia32-qemu-1.2.0.0.0.20110516.6-runtime | 09:54 |
| eg81 | then try to boot | 09:54 |
| eg81 | mad remote -r meego-tablet-ia32-qemu-1.2.0.0.0.20110516.6-runtime -fg | 09:54 |
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| maxw | k...in progress | 09:55 |
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| maxw | eg81: sorry, my system locked up :/ | 10:02 |
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| maxw | trying to boot again | 10:04 |
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| maxw | eg81:ha...ssh stopped working again, so will remove/create again | 10:06 |
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| eg81 | that's really strange | 10:07 |
| maxw | well, my system locked up while it was booting, so I guess me resetting the host system caused it | 10:07 |
| eg81 | do you have any other computer as this looks to me unstable :) | 10:08 |
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| maxw | oh, recreating didn't seem to help the ssh issue...I'll try the fix it using the same technique as before | 10:08 |
| maxw | oh, ok, perhaps I wasn't waiting long enough | 10:09 |
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| maxw | now I get an ssh key failure...which is a good sign :) | 10:09 |
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| maxw | yeah, logged in now :) | 10:10 |
| eg81 | maybe your system is too slow that's why you see only black screen.. | 10:10 |
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| maxw | it is a powerful system....shouldn't be too slow, in theory at least | 10:11 |
| eg81 | to run this tablet version in qemu you need at least 1gb free memory | 10:11 |
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| maxw | I have 6G of RAM...htop shows5G free roughly | 10:12 |
| maxw | ooh, something's happening :) | 10:12 |
| eg81 | :) | 10:14 |
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| wassupnari | vgrade : hello? | 10:44 |
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| maxw | eg81: I had another system crash, so figured I'd run memtest86 to see if that showed up anything wrong....on my laptop atm | 10:54 |
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| karmignan | is meego 1.2 going to be released today? | 11:11 |
| ver | i hope not, my tux is at the cleaner... | 11:12 |
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| karmignan | the wiki says today is release day | 11:14 |
| karmignan | http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Plans/1.2 | 11:14 |
| timoph | yep | 11:16 |
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| timoph | I'd expect the images to arrive afternoon US time | 11:18 |
| timoph | so pretty late evening/night for us in europe | 11:18 |
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| karmignan | http://www.phonenews.com/nokia-confirms-n9-running-meego-16489/ | 11:29 |
| karmignan | xD | 11:29 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 11:30 |
| Jaffa | karmignan: Nokia has confirmed no such thing. | 11:31 |
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| eg81 | karmignan: this facebook group is unofficial | 11:31 |
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| Jaffa | karmignan: That Facebook page is *not* the official MeeGo page at all, and the Linux Foundation is investigating it on trademark grounds | 11:31 |
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| * Jaffa makes sure this is in next week's MWKN | 11:31 | |
| karmignan | Jaffa: ok | 11:32 |
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| alterego | Oooo, my first bug .. | 11:33 |
| alterego | And it's high critical ... | 11:33 |
| * alterego panics | 11:34 | |
| iekku | alterego, you're welcome | 11:34 |
| iekku | :) | 11:34 |
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| lcuk | alterego, which bug? | 11:34 |
| iekku | alterego, please, take good care of it, it's on my watch list... | 11:35 |
| alterego | :) | 11:36 |
| iekku | alterego, if you don't you might see this: http://mybfolder.com/pics/7674-1271618483.jpg | 11:36 |
| iekku | ;) | 11:36 |
| alterego | I'm looking in to it | 11:36 |
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| chem|st | npm: you are funny... it lacks logic that way around... should I explain again or do you just read what I wrote yesterday? | 11:39 |
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| * lcuk reading http://qtmapper.garage.maemo.org/ | 11:47 | |
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| CosmoHill | hey lcuk | 11:54 |
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| lcuk | hi CosmoHill | 11:55 |
| lcuk | and hi lardman \o | 11:55 |
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| CosmoHill | salut la | 11:55 |
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| CosmoHill | salut lardman | 11:55 |
| * CosmoHill may need to replace his mac :( | 11:56 | |
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| Santosh | Hello I am facing this issue https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15552 | 11:56 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug 15552 maj, High, ---, martin.xu, ASSI, [Upstream v-0.71 has fixed the issue]network fail to connect to internet with static IP for the seco | 11:56 |
| Santosh | not able change IP address | 11:56 |
| Santosh | is this bug fixed in latest stable release 1.2? | 11:56 |
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| CosmoHill | have you run "zypper update" ? | 11:57 |
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| wassupnari | is there anyone who had worked about sensor drivers and 'sensord' ? | 11:58 |
| Santosh | CosmoHill, is your msg for Santosh ? | 11:58 |
| CosmoHill | yes | 11:58 |
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| Santosh | CosmoHill, i will try zypper update and get back | 11:59 |
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| slaine | Whens the 1.2 release, next week ? | 11:59 |
| slaine | I can never remember the date | 11:59 |
| slaine | I need to make some time to finalize my Broadcom instructions for 1.2 | 12:00 |
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| ver | slaine, later today i believe. | 12:05 |
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| andre__ | slaine, http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Plans/1.2 | 12:08 |
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| slaine | Cool, I'll have to update my site quickly so | 12:11 |
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| CosmoHill | hey dazo | 12:11 |
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| dazo | CosmoHill: whazzup? | 12:13 |
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| CosmoHill | just working on implementing some of the harder changes to the CLFS book | 12:13 |
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| CosmoHill | dazo: yourself? | 12:14 |
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| timoph | slaine: AFAIK broadcom wifi should work out of the box with .37 kernel | 12:18 |
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| slaine | timoph: I think you still need firmwares, but yes, no modules needed | 12:18 |
| slaine | (have Fedora 15 on there) | 12:18 |
| timoph | ok | 12:18 |
| slaine | However, I believe that's only going to affect 1.3, 1.2 is still on 2.6.35 iirc | 12:19 |
| slaine | Or was on the last pre-release I tested | 12:19 |
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| timoph | at least wifi worked for me in ideapad with 1.1.99 images | 12:20 |
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| iekku | do you remember link to latest netbook image? | 12:20 |
| iekku | working with eeepc701 | 12:20 |
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| maxw | eg81:ping | 12:29 |
| maxw | or perhaps eg81: ping | 12:29 |
| iekku | nevermind, got it | 12:29 |
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| timoph | seems that 1.2 images for netbook are already there: http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.2.0/images/meego-netbook-ia32/ | 12:33 |
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| eg81 | maxw: pong | 12:35 |
| slaine | timoph: sweet | 12:35 |
| maxw | eg81: made some progress, sort of | 12:36 |
| maxw | my desktop freezes pretty frequently, but if I log into the system remotely and start strace on the qmegl process, it all unfreezes | 12:37 |
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| maxw | this has allowed the emulator to boot | 12:38 |
| maxw | I can now see a UI, but the fonts are all corrupted | 12:38 |
| maxw | otherwise, it looks ok | 12:39 |
| maxw | slow though | 12:39 |
| eg81 | wow never heard about such issues | 12:39 |
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| lcuk | timoph, are those standard netbook images with patches and fixes done over recent months? or different changes too? | 12:39 |
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| maxw | it just froze then again, and just attaching strace to the process and killing it frees it again | 12:40 |
| maxw | seems a reliable workaround :) | 12:40 |
| slaine | lcuk: looks like the official netnook images for 1.2 | 12:40 |
| CosmoHill | timoph: maybe the images are there to get them onto the mirrors before release | 12:40 |
| eg81 | ^^that sounds crazy | 12:40 |
| CosmoHill | / annoucement | 12:40 |
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| slaine | nod | 12:40 |
| timoph | yep | 12:40 |
| slaine | built yesterday | 12:40 |
| CosmoHill | oh ffs | 12:40 |
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| CosmoHill | firefox is always the first victim | 12:41 |
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| maxw | eg81: anyway, I am suspecting a graphics driver issue - the graphics is really very slow anyway (like moving a window from left to right on the screen is very slow) - others in this office have upgrade to fedora15 (and much talk of porting drivers), so I'll check that out at some point. | 12:43 |
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| lcuk | maxw, what desktop are you running? | 12:44 |
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| maxw | gnome - just a recent fedora14 install | 12:44 |
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| lcuk | ahh | 12:46 |
| lcuk | I aded QtMapper to the ITP page: http://wiki.meego.com/Build_Infrastructure/Community_Builder/ITP#Q | 12:47 |
| lcuk | it was written for the n8x0 and has had some recent tweaks and tests would be good to try on meego too | 12:47 |
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| lardman|home | hey lcuk | 12:52 |
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| lcuk | morning lardman|home \o | 12:54 |
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| lardman|home | what's the N900 image like these days? | 12:54 |
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| lcuk | lardman|home, more and more usable every day! | 12:54 |
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| lardman|home | where are we on a scale of brick to being able to make phone calls and use calendar? ;) | 12:54 |
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| maxw | eg81: I think it's too unstable to use, so I'm switching back to chroot. I wonder if my findings are worth reporting anywhere. What do you think? | 12:55 |
| lcuk | lardman|home, phone calls are possible I believe! ask alterego and sabotage who have been dealing with much of that side | 12:56 |
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| lardman|home | lcuk: ok thanks | 12:57 |
| eg81 | maxw: hmm probably first you need to resolve gpu drivers issue | 12:59 |
| maxw | hrm, perhaps I'll see about that after getting some real work done - f15 will be released fairly soon, I think. | 13:00 |
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| bkalinga | Hi all, i am using meego-sdk-qtcreator on ubuntu for meego related developement | 13:38 |
| bkalinga | i notice a problem when i use CONFIG += mobility and MOBILITY = serviceframework | 13:38 |
| bkalinga | the make file INCPATH pointing to host -I/usr/include/QtServiceFramework -I/usr/include -I/usr/include/QtMobility | 13:38 |
| bkalinga | which is wrong.Other include paths are correct they are pointing to meego related one:I/usr/lib/madde/linux-i686/sysroots/meego-handset-ia32-madde-sysroot-1.1.99.4.20110426.4-fs/usr/include/qt4/QtCore | 13:38 |
| bkalinga | can someone please point out whats going wrong.. | 13:39 |
| costello | hmm hmm, is qtcreator running qmake that came with madde or the one that got installed alongside normal ubuntu stuff? | 13:42 |
| costello | what I'm suspecting is that you run qmake with qmake config made for ubuntu. | 13:42 |
| bkalinga | its from madee | 13:42 |
| costello | ok. | 13:42 |
| bkalinga | by using meego-sdk-qtcreator | 13:42 |
| costello | and this happens only when mobility is used? non-mobility qt-apps compile fine? | 13:44 |
| bkalinga | yes | 13:44 |
| * costello has mind=blown | 13:44 | |
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| iekku | costello, :D | 13:45 |
| bkalinga | http://pastebin.com/74D5ZCih | 13:46 |
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| bkalinga | search for QtServiceFramework in the pastebin output | 13:50 |
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| bkalinga | any body else face this issue | 13:54 |
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| costello | hmm, only meego-project I'm having that has mobility it has only MOBILITY += multimedia systeminfo | 13:56 |
| costello | doesn't have any extra additions to -I.. | 13:57 |
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| costello | can you make it work by adding INCLUDEPATH += /correct/directories into your .pro file?? having extra or non-existent dirs listed there should not hurt.. | 13:57 |
| costello | but what this smells like is that when you include that serviceframework it comes with somehow faulty qmake config or something.. | 13:58 |
| bkalinga | ok | 14:00 |
| bkalinga | for you serviceframework compiles? | 14:00 |
| costello | never tried and I don't have a working meego env handy at the moment, sorry.. | 14:01 |
| bkalinga | ok | 14:01 |
| costello | been playing around only with multimedia and systeminfo parts of mobility. | 14:01 |
| bkalinga | ok....let me try including that manually then | 14:02 |
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| chem|st | I guess there will be devel devices in SF... would love to get a play in this comedy | 14:17 |
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| lcuk | doh! dd'ed wrong image | 14:20 |
| * lcuk was scratching head why it was not booting | 14:20 | |
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| luisbg | does meego has a window list manager? I don't mean the display shown when you hit the hardware key | 14:28 |
| luisbg | that one doesn't show the xvimagesink display when playing a file through gst-launch-0.10 for example | 14:28 |
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| luisbg | anybody here uses xbmc in meego? | 14:58 |
| luisbg | it crashes everytime I try to play a file | 14:58 |
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| andre__ | luisbg, get a stacktrace? | 15:04 |
| Venemo | ~wtf xbmc | 15:08 |
| infobot | Gee... I don't know what xbmc means... | 15:08 |
| Venemo | ~xbmc | 15:08 |
| Venemo | infobot, be ashamed of yourself | 15:09 |
| luisbg | I installed the clutter-gst package, but clutter-gst doesn't appear in my pkg-config | 15:10 |
| luisbg | :S | 15:11 |
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| Venemo | luisbg, you probably need a -devel package for that | 15:11 |
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| Venemo | luisbg, maybe clutter-gst-devel, or maybe it's called something else | 15:15 |
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| priyanka | hi my kernel build on OBS fails giving error Unable to write payload to /home/abuild/rpmbuild/RPMS/i586/kernel-ivi-debuginfo-2.6.35.3-10.1.i586.rpm: No space left on device even though my system has system has lot of free space( in bothbhome and root partition ) can somebody help | 15:55 |
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| priyanka | Am facing the similar issues with some other packages as well | 15:57 |
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| lcuk | priyanka, are you doing local osc build? | 16:01 |
| lcuk | or is that message potentially coming from the server farm | 16:01 |
| priyanka | lcuk : I see it on my webui, but m running the workers at the same machine as my server | 16:01 |
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| priyanka | lcuk: is it related to kvm, never faced this issue while running on machines that dont use kvm | 16:02 |
| lcuk | sounds odd then | 16:03 |
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| lcuk | priyanka, so you have configured your server to be an obs instance? | 16:03 |
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| priyanka | lcuk: yes am using an OBS appliance set up as per meego wiki page by stskeeps , didnt add any changes related to kvm or LVM | 16:04 |
| klikklak | how long is the installing packages supposed to take? I get no status bar movement etc. mouse moves. this is on an eeepc701/600mhz atom so I can understand sluggishness, but it should do something, right? | 16:04 |
| klikklak | and do I have to press the > arrow button before it does something? | 16:04 |
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| klikklak | (I had amusing problems with the touchpad) | 16:05 |
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| renato | X-Fade, I'm getting problems to try add the armv7el arch on Pyside DE_Trunk repository | 16:11 |
| renato | How I can do that? I have edited the repository but not happens. | 16:11 |
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| luisbg | does meego has a window list manager? I don't mean the display shown when you hit the hardware key | 16:22 |
| luisbg | that one doesn't show the xvimagesink display when playing a file through gst-launch-0.10 for example | 16:22 |
| luisbg | I know it is decoding and displaying the video | 16:22 |
| luisbg | but it the window it is displayed on is hidden | 16:22 |
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| luisbg | shouldn't clutter-gst-devel drop some header files in /usr/include/ ? | 16:35 |
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| Venemo | [15:22] <luisbg> but it the window it is displayed on is hidden ---> file a bug report | 16:39 |
| luisbg | Venemo, against mcompositor? | 16:40 |
| luisbg | plus I have no trace or anything about it | 16:40 |
| Venemo | dunno what, maybe mcompositor | 16:40 |
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| Venemo | luisbg, on my Fedora, clutter-gst-devel drops its includes to /usr/include/clutter-1.0/clutter-gst/ | 16:41 |
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| Venemo | luisbg, I'm not sure if the MeeGo version does the same, but I would assume so | 16:41 |
| luisbg | let me check | 16:42 |
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| luisbg | Venemo, it does! thanks | 16:42 |
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| luisbg | Venemo, now I have to figure out why I calling clutter_gst_init() from my code doesn't want to compile | 16:42 |
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| Venemo | luisbg, you usually use PKGCONFIG+=clutter-gst-1.0 then #include <clutter-gst/whatever.h> | 16:44 |
| Venemo | luisbg, or whatever the alternative of PKGCONFIG is in the tool you use. | 16:44 |
| luisbg | Venemo, yes I have clutter-gst-1.0 in the configure.ac (this app builds perfectly in my debian/gentoo/fedora systems) | 16:45 |
| Venemo | luisbg, ah, so you use autotools? | 16:45 |
| luisbg | and then in the code I do #include <clutter-gst/clutter-gst.h> | 16:45 |
| luisbg | yes, autotools :) it took me a while to get it working, but now it is worth it | 16:45 |
| Venemo | luisbg, what is the error message you get on MeeGo? | 16:45 |
| luisbg | when I run make, all builds fine until... | 16:46 |
| luisbg | undefined reference to 'clutter_gst_init' | 16:46 |
| luisbg | have in mind that it builds all the other files before getting to the main one | 16:46 |
| Venemo | ah | 16:46 |
| Venemo | it seems that it fails to be added to the linker command line | 16:46 |
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| luisbg | Venemo, you mean the CLUTTER_GST_LIBS in src/Makefile.am ? | 16:47 |
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| Venemo | luisbg, I have no idea. All I can say is autotools has been gotten in my way so many times now that I would restort to using violence whenever I met its creators | 16:48 |
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| luisbg | Venemo, LOL! | 16:50 |
| luisbg | Venemo, I feel you | 16:50 |
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| renato | hi all, How I can add the armv7 on my PySide project on OBS? (DE_Trunk repository) | 16:50 |
| Venemo | luisbg, I mean, I tried to build stuff made with autotools, and I tried modifying them. I didn't manage to add anything to the linker command line yet. | 16:51 |
| Venemo | luisbg, I ended up with using a command-line option of make | 16:51 |
| luisbg | ouch | 16:51 |
| Venemo | luisbg, you could try that too | 16:53 |
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| Venemo | luisbg, in my case, it was 'make -j4 LDFLAGS=-lX11', and in some other projects, 'make -j4 AM_LDFLAGS=-lX11' worked too. just substitute '-lX11' with the necessary lib and you're good to go. | 16:54 |
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| Venemo | luisbg, obviously, you should get rid of -j4 as well if your CPU isn't up to the task | 16:57 |
| lcuk | Venemo, in a qt application, when qDebug() << something; is used, where is that logged? normal command line or elsewhere? | 16:57 |
| Venemo | lcuk, usually the standard output. which apperars in the command line when you run your app in the command line | 16:58 |
| Venemo | lcuk, if you run the app from Qt Creator, it will appear in Qt Creator's 'application output' pane | 16:59 |
| CosmoHill | I got a C for information security which made me kinda sad, then I realised that I've only had one C every year | 16:59 |
| CosmoHill | so going by that I should get As and Bs on everything else | 16:59 |
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| lcuk | Venemo, yeah I know, I have an app on the device and looking at code where debugs are used | 16:59 |
| lcuk | so expecting to see certain ones | 16:59 |
| lcuk | CosmoHill, are you meant to be disclosing the grade you got in your information security exam? | 17:00 |
| CosmoHill | I don't have an exam for it | 17:00 |
| CosmoHill | this was my assignment that I handed in | 17:00 |
| lcuk | what you should have done is "I got a [censored] for information security" :P | 17:00 |
| CosmoHill | ah I see | 17:00 |
| Venemo | lcuk, if you launch the app from the terminal, you should see the debugging output in the terminal. | 17:00 |
| lcuk | I did do Venemo | 17:01 |
| lcuk | do these qDebug() lines get included in all builds? | 17:01 |
| lcuk | or does it need specific debug binary | 17:01 |
| lcuk | or command line option perhaps | 17:01 |
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| Venemo | lcuk, it is possible that they are left out from the release builds (in order to preserve space) | 17:01 |
| Venemo | lcuk, I have not tried to check the output of a release build | 17:02 |
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| lcuk | thanks Venemo I will dig and see where qDebug() is available | 17:03 |
| Venemo | lcuk, if I were you, I'd just run the app from Qt Creator. | 17:03 |
| Venemo | lcuk, that is the best way of debugging | 17:03 |
| lcuk | Venemo, I am testing meegophotos app | 17:03 |
| Venemo | lcuk, you could easily obtain its source, I presume | 17:04 |
| lcuk | trying to see why it does not list photos when you run it first time | 17:04 |
| lcuk | and you have to rotate first | 17:04 |
| lcuk | before they are listed | 17:04 |
| Venemo | mhm | 17:04 |
| lcuk | I was hoping to see one of the qDebug messages within PhotoStripView::updateView | 17:04 |
| * lcuk is solidly used to large amounts of debug | 17:05 | |
| Venemo | lcuk, are they not appearing when you launch the app from terminal? | 17:05 |
| lcuk | (debug output is a whole UX!) | 17:05 |
| lcuk | no, some random warnings from deep within qt | 17:05 |
| lcuk | amusingly: | 17:05 |
| lcuk | Skipping non-Touch device: Virtual core XTEST pointer ( 4 ) | 17:05 |
| lcuk | Skipping non-Touch device: TSC2005 touchscreen ( 9 ) | 17:05 |
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| Venemo | lcuk, hmm | 17:15 |
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| Venemo | luisbg, is it working | 17:15 |
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| luisbg | oooh, he asked and left | 17:15 |
| gabrbedd | lcuk, Venemo: I think if the touchscreen only supports one touch point (single-touch) it gets filtered out of Qt's "touch logic." | 17:16 |
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| gabrbedd | lcuk, Venemo: I think if the touchscreen only supports one touch point (single-touch) it gets filtered out of Qt's "touch logic." | 17:17 |
| gabrbedd | ...but it'll still work as a mouse. | 17:17 |
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| Venemo | gabrbedd, understandable | 17:18 |
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| lizardo | renato: try asking on #meego-arm , there a people talking about OBS on it | 17:22 |
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| lcuk | ahh gabrbedd thanks | 17:38 |
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| dneary | DawnFoster, Ping? | 17:49 |
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| gprade | ping | 17:54 |
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| DawnFoster | hi dneary | 18:02 |
| gprade | hello, what do you think, will aava mobile ever release the twist? | 18:03 |
| gprade | anybody here? | 18:04 |
| lcuk | gprade, have you asked them? | 18:04 |
| lcuk | because they are the ones who know | 18:04 |
| gprade | yes, i tried to contact them, but they send no answer | 18:05 |
| gprade | will meego 1.2 today released? | 18:05 |
| slaine | gprade: if you look on the servers, you might find them | 18:06 |
| gprade | i found in http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.2.0/images/ some new, but is this official? | 18:07 |
| lcuk | gprade, it is on official meego servers? | 18:07 |
| lcuk | hi slaine | 18:07 |
| slaine | lcuk: howdy buddy | 18:07 |
| gprade | i think yes, ok then it is released, thanks | 18:08 |
| slaine | gprade: I'm guessing once Portland wakes up there'll be an announcement | 18:08 |
| slaine | I've downloaded the img but not installed it, will do that later | 18:08 |
| DawnFoster | for the record, Portland is awake :) | 18:09 |
| DawnFoster | we give the mirrors some time to pick up the new releases before we post the announcement | 18:09 |
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| iekku | DawnFoster, :D | 18:10 |
| lcuk | :D | 18:10 |
| slaine | DawnFoster: awake and at your desk, or awake and enjoying the first tea/coffee ? | 18:10 |
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| iekku | time to take a nap | 18:10 |
| lcuk | Venemo, "Printing using qDebug usually results in console output (you might have to add CONFIG += console to your project file to get output at all on some platforms)." I am guessing not seeing any because of the build/config options | 18:11 |
| iekku | and after that start to figure out what i need to take with me to SF | 18:11 |
| DawnFoster | slaine: I've been awake for 2 hours already and am halfway through the first pot of tea :) | 18:11 |
| iekku | i hope they sell flowers in the airport? | 18:11 |
| iekku | ;) | 18:11 |
| lcuk | DawnFoster, 2 hours and only halfway through?! | 18:11 |
| slaine | DawnFoster: nice, not at your desk though | 18:11 |
| DawnFoster | slaine: working from home today :) | 18:11 |
| Venemo | lcuk, maybe. in any case, IMO you should try running it from Qt Creator :) | 18:11 |
| lcuk | haha | 18:11 |
| slaine | DawnFoster: I love doing that. Thanks to HRM's visit, I did it yesterday | 18:11 |
| DawnFoster | need time to finish my presentation before I fly the conference tomorrow | 18:11 |
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| lcuk | when people do working from home days, an inlfatable autopilot should populate your real desk seat! | 18:12 |
| gabrbedd | DawnFoster: You too? Now I don't feel so bad. :-) | 18:12 |
| * slaine feels left out | 18:12 | |
| DawnFoster | gabrbedd: yeah, if I don't make some progress today on my presentation, the "State of the MeeGo Community" will be very similar to what it was 6 months ago in Dublin :) | 18:13 |
| DawnFoster | slaine: we'll miss you! | 18:13 |
| slaine | thanks | 18:13 |
| slaine | hopefully meet up at the Autumn event | 18:13 |
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| gabrbedd | DawnFoster: :-) | 18:15 |
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| KDEV | what can i do for meego | 18:25 |
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| chouchoune | a device | 18:26 |
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| lbt | KDEV: participate :) | 18:27 |
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| chouchoune | soread the world | 18:28 |
| chouchoune | spread* | 18:29 |
| gabrbedd | KDEV: What do you like doing? | 18:29 |
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| lcuk | KDEV, ask not what you can do for meego, but what meego can do for you! | 18:30 |
| KDEV_ | i want to see meego smartphone in the market | 18:32 |
| gabrbedd | KDEV_: Here's a few suggestions: (1) help the MeeGo DE team. They're working on making MeeGo work well on the N900 | 18:33 |
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| gabrbedd | KDEV_: (2) Squash bugs in the MeeGo UX (tablet) and the Handset UX. | 18:34 |
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| gabrbedd | KDEV_: Write cool apps for MeeGo. Get them into AppUp. If AppUp is thriving, MeeGo becomes more attractive to a handset vendor. | 18:35 |
| gabrbedd | (erm... that was (3)) | 18:35 |
| gprade | i wish to see a simple sync tool for contacts and calendars for kde desktop, maybe for kde kontact or thunderbird | 18:35 |
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| KDEV_ | ok thx.........i want to try meego in my PC | 18:36 |
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| gprade | like i had it for windows and outlook with my xda some years ago | 18:36 |
| gprade | that would be awesome | 18:36 |
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| gabrbedd | KDEV_: BTW, AppUp still has several contests (with cash prizes) that have not expired. If you're a coder... might check that out. | 18:38 |
| KDEV_ | i m beginer trying ...diffenetly one day my app run on meego | 18:39 |
| gabrbedd | KDEV_: Is coding what you want to do? Or just something you /can/ do? | 18:40 |
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| gabrbedd | KDEV_: because if it's something you /want/ to do... I can't emphasize enough how valuable bug squashing is to your skilz. | 18:41 |
| gabrbedd | KDEV_: So, I would work on app development and also help squash bugs on bugs.meego.com. | 18:41 |
| gprade | why no handset and tablet release? | 18:41 |
| KDEV_ | coding or anything | 18:42 |
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| KDEV_ | last time i tryl meego in VMware but it didn't work ........ | 18:43 |
| chouchoune | gprade: I guess, they might be coming | 18:43 |
| gprade | ok, thanks | 18:43 |
| gabrbedd | gprade: Wow, I didn't notice that. It's probably because they're a bit rough around the edges. | 18:43 |
| chouchoune | KDEV_: try qemu | 18:43 |
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| gabrbedd | gprade: They did release Tablet, but it's still being called a "Developer Preview" | 18:44 |
| KDEV_ | in windows or Linux | 18:44 |
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| chouchoune | KDEV_: linux ? | 18:45 |
| gprade | i've seen it, thank you all for your work | 18:45 |
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| * gabrbedd wonders why there was no release announcement on any ML that he's on... | 18:46 | |
| DawnFoster | gabrbedd: we just haven't posted it to the mailing list yet | 18:47 |
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| DawnFoster | usually Imad sends it himself | 18:48 |
| gabrbedd | KDEV_: It might be worth your $$ to get a new or used netbook to use as a development device. Atom-based netbooks can be had for as low as $250 new. | 18:48 |
| DawnFoster | the blog post is available now & the mailing list post will be very similar | 18:48 |
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| gabrbedd | DawnFoster: OK, thanks. I know everyone is very busy... | 18:49 |
| gabrbedd | DawnFoster: I was just wondering, that's all. :-) | 18:49 |
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| KDEV_ | i m sure meego support HTML5, WebGL or OpenGL.... | 18:50 |
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| DawnFoster | gabrbedd: no worries, and yes it's just a busy week :) | 18:50 |
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| gabrbedd | DawnFoster: Oh, crap. No wonder... my internal calender it 1 day off. I thought today was 5/20. :-p | 18:51 |
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| wmarone | couple more days | 18:51 |
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| DawnFoster | gabrbedd: ha! we have all day to finish our various release tasks :P | 18:52 |
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| slaine | gabrbedd: I'm in no rush on the announcement, gives me time to get my updated broadcom instructions online. | 18:53 |
| gabrbedd | slaine: No, it's not that. I was just thinking, "It was supposed to release YESTERDAY. Did it? I didn't even hear a `hurrah` or anything." | 18:55 |
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| slaine | gabrbedd: Yeah, as DawnFoster said, the final image was built yesterday but it has to get out to mirrors and then have the announcement. It may even be announced at MeegoConf (but probably today) | 18:56 |
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| DawnFoster | slaine: gabrbedd just lives in a slightly different space time continuum than the rest of us ;) | 18:57 |
| gabrbedd | slaine: Right. No worries now that I've looked at my calendar. :-) | 18:57 |
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| slaine | Hopefully the tablet ux will get a 1.2 beta release or some such now 1.2 is out. But not sure on the time line for that project | 18:57 |
| slaine | DawnFoster: lol | 18:57 |
| slaine | gabrbedd: do you have a large laptop ? | 18:58 |
| DawnFoster | tablet did get a refresh - I'm just downloading in now to see if it's much difference | 18:58 |
| gabrbedd | slaine: Only when I'm driving fast. | 18:58 |
| slaine | DawnFoster: I couldn't see a url for that, might still be internal | 18:59 |
| DawnFoster | I promised w00t_ that I'd install it and lend him my tablet at the conference for some cool demos he's working on :) | 18:59 |
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| slaine | nice :) | 18:59 |
| slaine | DawnFoster: community device program will be up and running soon enough for plebs like us to apply anyway | 18:59 |
| DawnFoster | slaine: well, it's just not easy to find the new tablet builds (we make the developers dig to get them): http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/stable/1.2.0.90/1.2.0.90.0.20110517.1/images/meego-tablet-ia32-pinetrail/meego-tablet-ia32-pinetrail-1.2.0.90.0.20110517.1.img | 19:00 |
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| slaine | such a catchy url, how could I miss it | 19:00 |
| DawnFoster | slaine: I'm really hoping to have the community device program live on Monday *crosses fingers* | 19:00 |
| slaine | I'll keep hitting refresh on the wiki so ;) | 19:00 |
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| Greatgib | DawnFoster: what is the community device program? | 19:04 |
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| DawnFoster | Greatgib: it's a way for community members who are doing cool things to apply for devices: http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Community_device_program | 19:05 |
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| Greatgib | cool | 19:07 |
| Greatgib | By the way, do anyone know where i can find a package of libcrypto? I use the oss trunk repo, but not such a package here :( | 19:07 |
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| Venemo | lcuk, have you had any luck? | 19:12 |
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| w00t_ | DawnFoster: :-) | 19:17 |
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| DawnFoster | w00t_: tablet 1.2 new image installed :) | 19:19 |
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| w00t_ | DawnFoster: you rock! | 19:19 |
| lcuk | Venemo, I went playing on the wii | 19:19 |
| lcuk | so IDK | 19:19 |
| Venemo | lcuk, haha | 19:19 |
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| DawnFoster | w00t_: I'm even charging the battery :) | 19:19 |
| * w00t_ sorted out his lenovo via ssh the other night | 19:19 | |
| Venemo | lcuk, I'm sure it was more fun than the debugging | 19:20 |
| w00t_ | that just leaves the n900 as the last problematic thing to set up | 19:20 |
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| lcuk | Venemo, yeah :D | 19:20 |
| lcuk | w00t_, which image are you using for it? | 19:20 |
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| DawnFoster | tablet is looking pretty good. UI is pretty much the same, but seems more responsive / stable than earlier versions (based 5-10 minutes of playing) | 19:21 |
| w00t_ | lcuk: right now, a very old, hacked up 1.2 beta | 19:21 |
| w00t_ | once I finish fighting it tonight, hopefully latest DE | 19:21 |
| lcuk | w00t_, do you have uboot installed? | 19:21 |
| w00t_ | yes | 19:21 |
| lcuk | cool | 19:22 |
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| CosmoHill | wtf, how could I make this computer without a swap | 19:46 |
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| mikeleib` | any n900DE peeps in the house? | 20:00 |
| mikeleib` | can take bug 17872 off my hand? | 20:00 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17872 nor, Undecided, ---, michael.leibowitz, NEW, [DE] Build version is clipped in 'About product' settings in portrait mode. | 20:00 |
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| TomaszD | Stskeeps|holiday, are you on holidays? | 20:01 |
| TomaszD | ;) | 20:01 |
| mikeleib` | can I assign to Stskeeps|holiday, then | 20:01 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | A great device with a slick new interface can be a big hit even when it's not Android or Apple: http://venturebeat.com/2011/05/18/playbook-outsells-motorola-xoo | 20:10 |
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| Myrtti | blackberry :-( | 20:14 |
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| * gabrbedd always sees "RIP" whenever "RIM" is written, for some reason... | 20:17 | |
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| CosmoHill | you have to be careful when writing "jobs at RIM" | 20:21 |
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| gabrbedd | jobs at ROM | 20:27 |
| gabrbedd | hahaha | 20:28 |
| * gabrbedd did not do that on purpose | 20:28 | |
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| * lcukn900 orders a new laptop screen. | 20:32 | |
| CosmoHill | I told you that one wasn't a touch screen | 20:33 |
| berndhs | jobs at ROM http://www.rom.on.ca/about/jobs.php | 20:34 |
| lcukn900 | lol cosmohill | 20:35 |
| CosmoHill | berndhs: lol | 20:35 |
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| CosmoHill | lcukn900: my name just looks like you're going !!!!! | 20:36 |
| berndhs | hey those are legitimate jobs :) | 20:36 |
| smoku | are there any drivers for GMA500 in meego repos? | 20:36 |
| lcukn900 | cosmo? | 20:36 |
| CosmoHill | I read it as "cosmo1!!!" :/ | 20:37 |
| lcukn900 | berndhs there was a person ages ago who wanted to use maemo in the museum for exhibits | 20:37 |
| berndhs | sounds reasonable | 20:37 |
| lcukn900 | yeah | 20:37 |
| berndhs | interactive mobile guide using a LAN | 20:38 |
| lcukn900 | there are many things, fully interactive would certainly be good | 20:38 |
| lcukn900 | i remember once going to museum of photography film and television with parents | 20:39 |
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| lcukn900 | everyone got a nikon camera to go round the museum with | 20:39 |
| berndhs | maybe it can detect which exhibit its is next to, bring up info about that one | 20:39 |
| lcukn900 | and photos at the other end | 20:39 |
| lcukn900 | berndhs bluetooth would be better for that | 20:40 |
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| Trung | hi there I've joined | 20:40 |
| lcukn900 | joined what? | 20:41 |
| berndhs | bluetooth would tell it where its at within a room ? | 20:41 |
| Trung | irc | 20:41 |
| Trung | and meego | 20:41 |
| gabrbedd | Trung: Welcome! | 20:42 |
| lcukn900 | berndhs scan bt nodes, display info from the one with heighest signal strength | 20:42 |
| gabrbedd | lcuk: Would you please show Trung the secret handshake? | 20:42 |
| Trung | haha, I even don't remember my public key | 20:43 |
| Trung | and private one | 20:43 |
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| lcuk | gabrbedd, that would require me knowing it also | 21:07 |
| lcuk | also gabrbedd they are more like internet high 5 | 21:09 |
| lcuk | http://www.indiescreet.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/95-Internet-High-Five.jpg | 21:09 |
| lcuk | requires touch screen for full effect though | 21:09 |
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| smoku | are there any drivers for GMA500 in meego repos? | 21:19 |
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| dm8tbr | smoku: I think there is something. at least I remember looking at an Archos9 kickstart file for recent MeeGo | 21:20 |
| smoku | any URL for the ks? | 21:20 |
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| dm8tbr | if I'd only remember who came up with it | 21:24 |
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| smoku | what is the root password in 1.2 ? | 21:35 |
| pierce | smoku: should be meego | 21:37 |
| smoku | tried that | 21:37 |
| pierce | netbook? | 21:37 |
| pierce | for netbook, the root password is the same as your user password | 21:37 |
| pierce | then one you manually set at install time | 21:37 |
| pierce | *the | 21:38 |
| smoku | oh. anaconda magic? | 21:39 |
| smoku | thx | 21:39 |
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| pierce | smoku: I tend to remove root's hash from /etc/shadow when done since the default user has full sudo anyway | 21:40 |
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| pierce | smoku: also a good idea to zypper remove openssh-server if you want to add any actual data to the device :-) | 21:41 |
| smoku | well... nobody should know my password anyway ;-) | 21:41 |
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| berndhs | one of the first things I do is set the root password | 21:43 |
| berndhs | seems better than removing stuff and hoping nobody will get in | 21:43 |
| gabrbedd | lcuk: LOL | 21:45 |
| smoku | huh... 1.2 does not provide fbdev X driver?? | 21:45 |
| smoku | which wifi module should I load on atom Z515 ? | 21:48 |
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| lcuk | dm8tbr, vgrade has built various GMA500 builds | 22:01 |
| lcuk | smoku, ^ | 22:01 |
| lcuk | EMGD driver afaik | 22:01 |
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| smoku | lcuk, got it. thanks. | 22:02 |
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| dm8tbr | lcuk: yes and most likely the joggler image / ks is on my bug... server :) | 22:21 |
| dm8tbr | lcuk: but there was some other kickstart I was actually thinking about, never mind as that is no longer necessary :) | 22:21 |
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| lbt | mmm 1.2 on my ExoPC ... is the screen brightness synced to some subliminal tune? | 22:36 |
| lbt | it keeps fading in and out... | 22:36 |
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| lbt | some kind of light sensor ??? | 22:37 |
| ieatlint | well, there is the ambient light sensor in the upper left | 22:37 |
| ieatlint | try covering it and see if the brightness stables | 22:37 |
| lbt | no.. it switches to panel mode ... hehe | 22:37 |
| lbt | no | 22:38 |
| fiferboy | lbt: You have quite a few talk and BOFs coming up, don't you | 22:38 |
| lbt | fiferboy: tue is busy ... I'm doing 4 and want to be at the OBS/Apps one | 22:39 |
| lbt | kinda need to finish the tutorial too... | 22:39 |
| lbt | mmm | 22:39 |
| lbt | bbiab | 22:40 |
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| chouchoune | does someone know if there is any chance that the Meego SDK could be available for Fedora 15 quite quickly ? | 23:11 |
| chouchoune | (Fedora 15 release is in 5 days) | 23:11 |
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| berndhs | chouchoune: is there a MeeGo SDK for Fedora 14 ? | 23:14 |
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| chouchoune | berndhs: yes | 23:17 |
| chouchoune | http://developer.meego.com/meego-sdk | 23:17 |
| chouchoune | Download the MeeGo 1.2 SDK for Linux | 23:18 |
| chouchoune | Supported hosts: Ubuntu 10.04, 10.10; Fedora 13, 14 | 23:18 |
| chouchoune | Ubuntu 11.04 is out of scope too | 23:18 |
| berndhs | the main meego.com page is out of date then | 23:18 |
| chouchoune | but meego SDK 1.2 waqs released today | 23:18 |
| chouchoune | so everything is maybe not updated yet\ | 23:19 |
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| berndhs | thats probably it | 23:19 |
| chouchoune | ut I tried to install on Fedora 15 beta and it doesn't work ;) | 23:19 |
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| chouchoune | what is there on #meego-handset ? | 23:21 |
| berndhs | i think gprade: just forgot the leading / | 23:22 |
| gprade | sorry | 23:22 |
| chouchoune | ok ;) | 23:22 |
| berndhs | but i am sure the conversation on #meego-handset is very inspiring | 23:23 |
| gprade | i hope | 23:23 |
| chouchoune | hehe | 23:23 |
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| gprade | last time there was nobody | 23:24 |
| chouchoune | noone is speaking there right now | 23:24 |
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| chouchoune | is meego.com slow for me only ? | 23:25 |
| chouchoune | or is it for everyone ? | 23:25 |
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| lcuk | 1.2 was announced/released afaik | 23:28 |
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| berndhs | ah the benefits of not relying on normal repos to distribute the SDK, you end up with umpteen copies of Qt Creator | 23:33 |
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| leinir | Heyhey, anybody here know where that meego-ux-switcher thing got to? i'm sure i found it somewhere, but...? | 23:44 |
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| lcuk | leinir, on the desktop switcher wiki page afaik, hold on | 23:45 |
| leinir | cheers :) | 23:46 |
| lcuk | http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Desktop/Changing_Desktops#UXSelect_Switcher_Tool_.28alpha.29 | 23:46 |
| lbt | hey leinir o/ | 23:46 |
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| leinir | lbt: Yo! :) | 23:47 |
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| lbt | just packing ... :) | 23:47 |
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| leinir | i'll be doing that in an hour or so :) | 23:47 |
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| lbt | you coming to SF ? | 23:47 |
| leinir | i certainly am :) | 23:48 |
| lbt | great | 23:48 |
| lbt | we're arriving tomorrow pm | 23:48 |
| leinir | will be arriving at half past midnight local time on Saturday ;) | 23:48 |
| lbt | hmmm 00:30 saturday.... or just into sunday ? | 23:48 |
| leinir | 0035 Saturday ;) | 23:49 |
| lbt | good - you'll be there for the wargames! | 23:51 |
| leinir | Yupyup! :) | 23:51 |
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