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alteregoGetting weird ofono behaviour, I'm sure remote calls which are hungup before being answered are counted as missed, and I'm sure that calls which are unanswered but are ringing don't count towards call time.01:05
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shinkamuimeego seems to be struggling to initialize the ui05:57
shinkamuiwhat should I look at?05:57
shinkamuithe last thing I did was modify the portrait rotation key using gconftool-205:58
shinkamuibut of course that doesn't work when X isn't running05:58
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shinkamuiscrew it06:03
shinkamuiill just reinstall, I hadn't done much anyway06:03
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arhyttinhi, does anybody know: what driver does Meego use for eGalax touch screens (if it has a driver in it for that at all)?11:19
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arhyttinUbuntu uses evtouch, with a calibration tool that, how shall I say this, could use more than a bit of work11:20
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arhyttinwhat kind of touchscreen calibratino does Meego have, is there anything Meego-specific or is it just standard Linux stuff, (ie. driver dependent etc)?11:21
tomeuI have been using the vendor-provided driver (and calibration tool) for an egalax screen here11:22
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arhyttintomeu: ok. you mean wendor of the display / tablet device?11:24
tomeuthe one here: http://home.eeti.com.tw/web20/eGalaxTouchDriver/linuxDriver.htm11:24
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arhyttintomeu: thanks, I'll check that out!11:27
arhyttin...so I gather this probably means, that Meego itself does not have touch screen calibration framework?11:28
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RST38hEHLO ALL11:36
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lcuk:) I imported most of the sketches I have ever drawn in liqbase into one graffiti wall on the ideapad :)12:01
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* lcuk has one of the very first smiley faces Jake ever drew :)12:02
lcukall the way through until today!12:02
alterego:)12:04
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timeless_w7ipsp3000: i wonder if i could interest people in indian buffet for lunch sometime this week12:08
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* lbt notes that http://sf2011.meego.com has no easy "contact us"12:40
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* arfoll notes that the same site has lost all avatar jpg's12:42
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lbtarfoll: yeah ... low prio apparentl12:51
lbty12:51
lbtanyone have Ashley Walker's email?12:52
X-Fadelbt: first.last @ nokia.12:52
lbt:)12:53
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mikhashow can I trigger rotation on an IdeaPad with MeeGo 1.2 Tablet UX?13:08
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mikhasseems that certain views are always in portrait mode, but how to switch the whole device to portrait mode?13:09
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w00t_mikhas: I maintain that's a bug, I just never get time to look into it13:09
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swebcan i install meego on android phones ? like x10 mini pro sony erricson ?13:25
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timeless_w7ipx-fade: someone's @ nokia? :o13:28
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dm8tbrsweb: if you do the adaptation work yourself, yes13:47
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* lcuk puts a sim into n900-de machine and sees how it works15:44
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* alterego watches as lcuk's n900 sets on fire and he runs around with a burning arm.15:47
alteregoThat's how we roll :)15:47
lcuknothing new there.15:48
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lcukalterego, when you get back from lunch, can you post screenies from latest dialer, or tell us how to build/install/rn the latest version on -de?15:57
alteregoSeems to be a bit of a problem people are having installing on the latest images.15:58
alteregoDon't know why15:58
alteregoBad use of zypper I think. :)15:58
alteregolcuk: it should just be a matter of adding this repo: http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/tswindell:/branches:/MeeGo.com:/Trunk/Project_DE_Trunk_Testing_standard/15:59
alteregoAnd updating the meego-handset-dialer package.15:59
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Stskeeps|holidaypackage name same?15:59
alteregoBut people seem to be having an issue doing that for some reason ..15:59
alteregoStskeeps|holiday: yes15:59
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lcukStskeeps|holiday, how is mrs stskeeps doing?  are you stateside already16:00
Stskeeps|holidaylcuk: both of us, yeah16:01
lcukare you jetlagged, it seems ealry16:01
lcukearly16:01
alteregoGrr, that image write seemed to have failed.16:02
alteregoI hope this card isn't on its' way out :/16:02
Stskeeps|holidayjust exhausted. we were 24 hours awake saturday on tad dramatic flights. then 8am-8pm sunday and waking up earlier today16:02
* lcuk nods16:02
alterego"dramatic flights"?16:02
alteregoNothing _too_ dramatic I hope.16:03
lcukhe left his stylus in hold luggage!16:03
Stskeeps|holidayalterego: chicago was fucking scary to land in. raining sideways.16:03
alteregoHahah16:03
alteregoOh, nasty16:03
alteregoYou should have gone straight to SF :P16:03
lcukStskeeps|holiday, DawnFoster will shout at you for swearing!  but I think that is valid in your case, sounds rough16:04
Stskeeps|holidayon next fight to sfo we were delayed an hour because the screens in cockpit didnt work16:04
alteregoEveryone knows Chicago is "The Windy City" (Expect Turbulance) ^.^16:04
DawnFoster:)16:04
Stskeeps|holidayand they fixed it by 'rebooting a program card that had gotten locked up'16:04
alteregoWow, was that during flight? :D16:04
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Stskeeps|holidayand being a computer scientist, fixing lockups by reboot usually is a temporary solution16:05
lcukdid they use the sanity or acceptance image of MeeGo Flight UX?16:05
alteregoHeh16:05
Stskeeps|holidayon top of that, we were delayed due to another plane emergency landing :P16:06
Stskeeps|holidayso yeah, dramatic16:06
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* lcuk ponders sailing instead16:06
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miheronot sure if it would be any less dramatic trip if going back first take bus to new york and then by ship to europe:)16:08
alteregoI think taking a boat would be far more dramatic ..16:09
alteregoStskeeps|holiday: you should have done a video blog "WE'RE AT 10 THOUSAND FEET, THE F'ING FLIGHT COMPUTER HAS CRASHED, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO DIE".16:09
alterego"It turned out okay, they just turned it off and on again"16:10
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Stskeeps|holidayalterego: this was before takeoff, :P but still16:10
alterego"omfg, chicago is really windy!" :D16:10
alterego:)16:10
alteregoI might do a video blog.16:10
miheroheh, it is always a good advice "have you tried turning it on and off"16:10
alteregoI'll have 10 hours with nothing but myself for company.16:10
alteregomihero: you mean "off and on" :P16:11
lcukwhenever I fly, I have myself and my thoughts and liqbase to note them down on.16:11
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alterego* lcuk writes "Oh know, I think we're going to die ... Oh, maybe I should make this icon purple"16:11
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alteregos/know/no/16:11
infobotalterego meant: * lcuk writes "Oh no, I think we're going to die ... Oh, maybe I should make this icon purple"16:11
lcukno, I have thankfully had good stable flights :)16:12
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alteregoYay, latest sanity seems to be booting okay now I've rewrote the image :)16:13
* alterego wonders where the sammich he ordered is.16:13
miheroso you are ready to fly:)16:13
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alteregoInteresting, one of my N900s tilts more than the other.16:14
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lcukalterego, purple icons would not bother me16:19
lcukbut it is common to notice and note down bugs as they are encountered16:20
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alteregoYeah, I do the same :P16:21
alteregoThough I use conboy16:21
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albancDo you know where are the RPMs for intaller for Trunk? On build.meego.com I can see them on "MeeGo:1.2:oss > installer" but no Trunk.16:41
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Stskeeps|holidayalbanc: was removed i think16:46
albancStskeeps|holiday, replaced by something else?16:46
Stskeeps|holidayalbanc: they will do something re image installation in 1.316:47
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sp3000timeless_w7ip: could happen17:40
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saidinesh5pohly: ping17:45
pohlysaidinesh5: pong17:45
saidinesh5phew , finally done with my university .... so i guess i have around a month or 2 for syncevo.......17:45
saidinesh5anywyas firstly it doesnt compile17:45
saidinesh5the trunk17:45
pohlyWhich problem do you see?17:46
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saidinesh5configure.in:1396: required file `src/dbus/glib/Makefile.in'17:46
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saidinesh5and that file is missing17:46
pohlyIt should be generated from Makefile.am in that same directory.17:47
pohlyWhen you run autogen.sh.17:47
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pohlyTypically automake rules will update files after a git update, but that directory is new; perhaps it doesn't work in that case.17:48
saidinesh5well but thats the error thrown by autogen.sh17:48
pohlyOkay, got it.17:48
pohlySomehow Makefile.am wasn't moved together with the rest of the files. Will fix immediately.17:49
saidinesh5:)17:49
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DawnFosterw00t_: ping - I just sent you an important email. Can you look when you get a chance?17:52
w00t_DawnFoster: just got the email beep - I'm busy at the moment, but will look tonight/ASAP :)17:52
DawnFosterw00t_: thanks!17:53
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pohlysaidinesh5: git repo updated, thanks for reporting.17:53
saidinesh5:)17:53
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saidinesh5another error....... i remember this was even in the qt-dbus branch18:02
saidinesh5../../syncevolution/src/backends/evolution/EvolutionMemoSource.h:24:37: fatal error: EvolutionCalendarSource.h: No such file or directory18:02
saidinesh5looking into this..........18:02
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CosmoHillhey DawnFoster18:09
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lcukCosmoHill, good afternoon18:16
CosmoHillhey lcuk18:16
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gabrbeddlcuk: \o.18:20
gabrbeddCosmoHill: ,o/18:20
CosmoHillgabrbedd: \o/18:20
* CosmoHill sits down at his desktop and wonders where the keyboard has gone18:21
berndhsbeen virtualized ?18:22
* CosmoHill goes to do something mildly producting instead of procrastinating18:22
CosmoHillthe keyboard was behind my chair18:22
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mikeleibmaliit FTW18:25
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CosmoHillif anyone is interesting I'm going to do a build of cross-lfs in a moment18:30
* lcuk checks gluon18:30
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berndhswhat is that ? cross-lfs ?18:31
CosmoHillwww.cross-lfs.org18:31
CosmoHillit's a book that tells you how to build a basic linux system from the source packages18:31
berndhsah18:32
CosmoHillwith the aim of teaching you how the packages work together and cross compilation18:32
berndhsI have 1/3 of a laptop not doing anything, I sohuld put one there18:32
berndhsand mess with the touch-pad driver18:32
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CosmoHillI'm just installing the require stuff on my host18:34
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lcukhttp://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/CoolStuff#Gluon18:35
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CosmoHillberndhs: if you want to do CLFS feel free to, I should be doing the same packages about the same time so it should be easier to provide you with help if you need it18:40
berndhsi'm checking it now18:40
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berndhsCosmoHill: my gcc and glibc versions are really new, I expect trouble with that :)18:53
CosmoHillI hope not18:53
CosmoHillI'm still getting the sources18:53
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lcukdjit seems gluon is not built for armv7nhl18:57
lcukhttp://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/sandst1/standard/18:58
lcuksandst1, could you see if you could add the armv7nhl flags onto the gluon packages18:58
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lcukdjszapi, ^^18:59
lcuk<lcuk> djit seems gluon is not built for armv7nhl18:59
lcuk<lcuk> http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/sandst1/standard/18:59
lcuk<lcuk> sandst1, could you see if you could add the armv7nhl flags onto the gluon packages18:59
djszapilcuk: I already asked sandst1 ;)19:00
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lcuklbt, from that repository do you know how the armv7nhl obs would be configured?19:03
lcukor any other OBS type people hanging around?19:03
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djszapilcuk: btw, OBS will be renamed to Open Build System ?19:09
djszapi* Service19:10
lcukdjszapi, ?19:11
lcukopensuse build service is its name, why change it?19:11
djszapito avoid the belief, it is OpenSuse specific, that is what I heard at the ubuntu meeting from a guy :)19:11
sp3000timeless_w7ip: speaking of things that resemble lunch19:12
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gabrbedddjszapi: lcuk  Kinda like The Redhat Package Manager ==> The RPM Package Manager19:12
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gabrbeddRule of thumb:  quit naming software after the distro.19:13
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npmgabrbedd: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowdog_Updater,_Modified == yum, from yellowdog linux19:15
toninikkanenor naming apps after the programming framework that was used for creating them... grh19:16
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lcukgabrbedd, so how should people name their software?19:17
thiagoor just give it a generic name, like the "Yet Another Compiler" Compiler19:17
* lcuk bets gabrbedd_app exists :P19:17
gabrbeddtoninikkanen: +1  (Although filtering out K* and G* programs to use Q* programs has become a habit...)19:17
npmall programs must begin with a q, or have a k in them.19:17
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* lcuk uses liq*19:18
thiagogabrbedd: just be careful that there are some k* where the k stands for Kernel19:18
lcukor more recently my*19:18
thiagoevery now and then someone pops in #kde asking why kworker/1:0 is taking so much CPU time19:18
ali1234hmm... why *is* kworker taking so much cpu time btw?19:19
thiagohi2k19:19
ali1234every time i try to write a meego image to usb disk19:19
gabrbeddthiago: haha, true19:19
thiagohappens to me whenever I plug any USB after resuming from suspend19:19
ali1234kworker uses 200% CPU and system freezes up until copy finishes19:19
thiagoif I resume with the USB plugged in, it works19:19
ali1234this only started happening in recent kernels :/19:19
gabrbeddlcuk: no there's no gabe_app, I usually start with a generic name ("midi-keyboard") until I get serious about it.  Then I give it a real name (like "Ivory")19:20
thiagosame for me19:20
gabrbeddlcuk: “There are only two hard problems in Computer Science: cache invalidation and naming things.” — Phil Karlton19:21
sp3000yeah it's the part of installing an os on a new box that takes the most time19:22
* w00t_ still remembers the naming session on #qt-labs a few months ago19:22
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w00t_thiago: ^ :-)19:22
thiagooh god...19:22
w00t_DawnFoster: replied btw19:22
thiagowhat were we discussing?19:22
w00t_want me to dig up the log? :P19:23
w00t_always good for a laugh19:23
thiagoyeah19:23
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gabrbeddlcuk: But I would say that naming a software package (app, library, whatever) after the OS has been proven time and time again to be a big mistake.19:23
* w00t_ goes to find it19:23
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sp3000gabrbedd: but it can only turn out to be a big mistake if it becomes popular ...so at that point clearly the name served it well ;)19:24
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w00t_thiago: found it, pastebinning19:25
w00t_we really need a QAbstractDynamicMeeGoGraphicsSystemControllerInterfaceListenerProxyFactorySingleton for Qt 519:26
lcukgabrbedd, it will always happen19:26
w00t_http://w00t.dereferenced.net/p/t/pastebin20110516-7230-7o09fd-0.txt19:26
w00t_thiago: ^^19:27
thiagobtw, the stats haven't updated in a month and a half19:27
w00t_thiago: I'll poke them19:27
w00t_run them manually for the time being19:28
w00t_I'll try figure out why it isn't working automatically, I thought I fixed that19:28
lcukw00t_, that is an awesome class name19:28
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thiago 229000 16:07 <#qt-labs/w00t> can you fit any more design patterns into that name?19:29
thiago 229001 16:07 <#qt-labs/+thiago> I'm trying to19:29
thiago:-)19:29
w00t_lcuk: take a look at the log, it was a great conversation19:29
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w00t_ 229024 16:09  * #qt-labs/TZander notes that people looking at this backlog and then looking at classes in Qt like QAbstractDocumentLayout w        ill likely get the wrong impression on how we name stuff...19:29
w00t_that was my favorite bit19:29
w00t_:P19:29
w00t_qt_showYellowThing ftw, too19:30
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gabrbeddsp3000: lcuk: True.  IMHO, name changes are always painful.  Avoiding one well-known goof (naming after the distro) shouldn't be that hard. :-)19:30
thiagoit got recently renamed to QWidgetBackingStore::showYellowThing19:31
w00t_it's not very extensible19:31
gabrbeddQAbstractDynamicGraphicsSystemControllerInterfaceListenerProxyFactorySingleton19:31
gabrbeddlol19:31
w00t_we really need showThig(QColor)19:31
w00t_Thing rather19:32
alteregoHeh19:32
thiagow00t_: then I'll need to update my "Hidden gems" blog about the environment variable that lets you choose the colour19:32
w00t_thiago: stats finished19:32
w00t_"killList << QFileSystemWatcher"19:33
w00t_hahaha19:33
thiagow00t_: you need more activity in the 6-11 time period19:33
w00t_yeah, I'm not #2 in all timeslots!19:34
w00t_I think that goes to show that I am not an early riser19:34
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w00t_thiago talks to him/herself a lot. He/She wrote over 5 lines in a row 249 times!19:37
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w00t_:-P19:37
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lcukhmm bug 1752420:05
MeeGoBotBug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17524 nor, Undecided, ---, james.ausmus, RESO INVALID, [N900 DE] Peregrine QML UI does not have "Pan to desktop"20:05
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gabrbeddlcuk: So where is peregrine coming from?20:09
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lcukwell it has been added to -de image20:10
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lcukI had forgotten it was not on the default meego build20:10
gabrbeddso, where are DE bugs being filed?20:11
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lcukgabrbedd, that is now what I am pondering20:12
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gabrbeddlcuk: well, it was assigned to james @intel... and I don't know if he's active in the DE effort.  I would probably ping one of those guys about it.  Probably reopen the bug and find some way to get it assigned to the DE team.20:18
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lcukw00t_, when are you flying out to sf? and it is MCR->AMS->SF?20:21
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lcukhttp://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Conference_2010/Flight_Information20:22
w00t_friday night: back to MAN, saturday morning: MAN -> AMS -> SFO yeah20:22
w00t_I'll add myself20:22
lcuk\o20:22
w00t_assuming the hotel's internet ever loads it20:23
lcukhttp://meego.gitorious.org/meego-handset-ux/meego-handset-chat20:24
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lcukahh gabrbedd the meego handset chat app ^20:24
lbtis there a fremantle schedule viewer?20:25
lcuk? lbt20:25
lbtmeego summit.fi had a neat little app20:25
lcukw00t_, wrong link page20:25
lcukdid not notice20:25
lcukthat is old conf20:25
lbtI expected it to be reused for SF - seen no mention of it?20:25
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gabrbeddlcuk: That's what uses peregrin?20:26
lcukw00t_, http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Conference_Spring_2011/Flight_Information20:26
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w00t_lcuk: yeah, i noticed just before you mentioned20:26
lcukgabrbedd, the n900-de has it installed20:27
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saidinesh5pohly: does syncevo compile ?? i seem to be getting a lot of autotools related compilation issues :-/20:59
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pohlysaidinesh5: it's not entirely broken, but I am not entirely done with nightly build checks.21:00
pohlyWhich problems do you see?21:00
treitterwhat's the current equivalent of the Trunk:Extra repo?21:01
treitterthat's still in use, right?21:02
* CosmoHill wonders if he should be able to crash RHEL this easy21:02
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saidinesh5just a sec pohly pastebining21:03
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saidinesh5pohly: ../../syncevolution/src/backends/evolution/EvolutionMemoSource.h:24:37: fatal error: EvolutionCalendarSource.h: No such file or directory21:06
saidinesh5 basically this is what is coming up21:06
saidinesh5even though 1) i haven't enabled the ecal21:06
saidinesh52) that file exists where it had to21:06
pohlyOkay, that's one things that I have seen. I'm currently testing a fix, which is not yet in git.21:07
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pohlyTry #include "EvolutionCalendarSource.h" (quotation marks) instead of #include <EvolutionCalendarSource.h>.21:08
saidinesh5if i try to hide the issue with21:08
saidinesh5http://pastebin.ca/206173621:09
saidinesh5then i get a different error21:09
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lcukCosmoHill, what are you managing to crash?21:10
lcukand have you got yourself a meego device to play on yet?21:10
CosmoHillpretty much the whole dekstop UI21:10
saidinesh5just a sec21:10
saidinesh5getting there21:10
CosmoHilllcuk: no not yet, if there is a PCI-E or PCI intel graphics card then I will do21:10
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lcukCosmoHill, it makes most sense on a touchscreen device anyway21:11
lcuktrying to draw using the mouse is a bit wibbly21:11
mikhas*multi-touch touchscreen device21:11
CosmoHillI typed make -j7 and then things started to disapear21:11
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lcukmikhas, multitouch is overrated :P21:11
CosmoHillokay my graphics  card has thrown up a rainbow21:11
* lcuk draws hair on peoples heads21:11
lcukand makes liqflow zoom along21:12
lcukCosmoHill, eep21:12
gabrbeddCosmoHill: I think -j7 is an easter egg for "Core Meltdown"21:12
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saidinesh5http://pastebin.ca/2061738 pohly21:14
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CosmoHilllcuk: http://black-flag.co.uk/files/pc-rainbow-screen.jpg21:17
treitterhow can I look up which package provides a given file?21:18
arfolldoes anyone know if there is an pinetrail image with wayland or what repo is best to use?21:18
gabrbeddtreitter: rpm -qf /path/to/file21:18
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mikhastreitter, well, not sure whether we have the equivalent of apt-file, but rpm -ql <package-name> gives you the files provided by a package21:19
mikhasthen, by iterating over the list of all installed packages ... you get the idea ;-)21:19
treitteroh, sorry - I meant for uninstalled packages21:19
treittergabrbedd: ^21:19
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lcukCosmoHill, make that animated and it would be awesome21:20
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gabrbeddtreitter: short answer you can't.21:21
treittergabrbedd: :/, thanks21:22
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gabrbeddtreitter: Long answer... you have to manually parse the cached repository data (repodata/filelists.xml.gz)21:23
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lcuktreitter, how about trying human powered grep -> ask in here if people know the specific file you are seeking!21:24
treitterto start with, gnome-autogen.sh21:25
gabrbeddtreitter: so maybe something like this will get you there... zcat /path/to/cache/filelists.xml.gz | xmllint --format - | awk '/fileiwant/ { do_something }'21:25
treitterI guess I can use Debian's package-for-filename search and then try to translate the package names21:25
CosmoHillyep my graphics have gone nuts21:25
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CosmoHilleverything has moved 3" to the right and wrapped around21:25
lcuk> hoping I could build guile-gtk from cvs again.  *Is* there a package21:25
lcuk> that contains gnome-autogen.sh, or do I have to install something from21:25
lcuk> source.  If source what is it and where is it?21:25
lcukYou need to get gnome-common module from GNOME CVS21:25
lcukhttp://sourceware.org/ml/guile-gtk/2001-q2/msg00060.html21:25
lcuktreitter, helpful?21:26
CosmoHillso the far right is actually on the left of the monitor21:26
gabrbeddCosmoHill: Pretty!21:26
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treitterlcuk: yup, thanks21:26
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lcukdo we have a bug for the charging indicator light on n900?21:28
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Wollihey, is it possible to add more touch-buttons to xterm?21:36
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mikhasWolli, ?21:44
mikhasplan is to soon have a proper terminal application for MeeGo, with virtual keyboard support and a toolbar with extra functionality (think N900 terminal app, perhaps), see bug 1696321:46
MeeGoBotBug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16963 maj, High, 1.2, michael, NEW, N900 "Sym" key does not invoke VKB symbol view.21:46
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mikhas(if you have votes left, above bug might be good investment ;-)21:47
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lbtDawnFoster: ping21:53
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fiferboyHi lbt21:56
lbthey fiferboy21:56
fiferboylbt: Is there some way I can get a MeeGo application into a public repository?21:57
fiferboyie not my PPA21:57
lbtyes... apps21:57
lbtwhat's it called?21:58
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mikhas"MeeGo App" - because we only have one21:58
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mikhas;-)21:58
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lbtmikhas: this'll make 2...21:58
lbtwe need to go plural! \o/21:59
mikhasprogress!21:59
fiferboyMy app is a dictionary app called "Personal Lexicon"21:59
* lbt updates the registration db21:59
mikhasdictionary, as in: translations?21:59
lbtcurrent MeeGo Apps DB :   http://pastie.org/191215422:00
lbt(for real ;) )22:00
fiferboymikhas: No, think much more simplistic :)22:00
fiferboylbt: How do I get an app in there?22:00
lbtask me22:01
lbtit's rather beta ... as I hope you can tell22:01
lbtso ... what's the shortname22:01
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fiferboyI think personal-lexicon22:02
lbtand is it in home:fiferboy22:02
Myrttiis anyone else planning to go to MakerFaire on the weekend?22:02
lcuklbt, Venemo has a great simple qt app to include in there22:02
fiferboylbt: Yep22:02
lbtlcuk: ?22:03
* lcuk beieves he created the word lexicolon22:03
lcuklbt, the meego apps db22:03
lcukhis app is on the ITP22:03
lcukbut he has not done the obs side I do not think22:03
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lcukI built it on my ideapad and it runs happily22:03
lbtlcuk: yeah, what's it called and where does it live22:04
Venemono, I haven't got the time to research the OBS yet. lcuk gave me a link, but I rather study for tomorrow's exam at the moment :)22:04
lbtsee pastie22:04
lbtso ok fiferboy, go to #meego-boss22:04
lbtand then issue an SR to copy your app to MeeGo:1.2:Apps:Testing22:05
mikhaslcuk, I wish I had realized that earlier: compiling on the ideapad is acceptable, and thus it's the best development for MeeGo Tablet UX22:05
mikhas*development device22:05
lcuklbt, http://wiki.meego.com/Build_Infrastructure/Community_Builder/ITP#P22:05
lcukmikhas, I have compiled on device since the n81022:05
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lbtlcuk ah22:06
fiferboylbt: Is there instruction on issuing an SR?22:06
lbt:(22:06
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lbtosc sr -m"Ready for Apps:Testing" home:fiferboy personal-lexicon MeeGo:1.2:Apps:Testing22:07
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mikhaslcuk, with C++?22:08
mikhasI doubt that is bearable ...22:08
fiferboylbt: Ah, you mean issue it locally and watch meego-boss for output?22:08
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lbt*g*22:08
fiferboyI did all my building on the web, have to run around and install osc22:09
lbtmmm22:09
fiferboylbt: No way to issue it from the web interface?22:09
phaeronyou can submit from webui as well22:09
lbtyep22:09
lbtand phaeron will now train you ...22:10
phaeronit's a couple of clicks :)22:10
lbtyou've not met fiferboy.... ;)22:10
fiferboyphaeron: Excellent22:10
* mikhas signs up for free training lesson, too22:10
lbtwe are having an OBS session on saturday pm at the conf22:11
lbtX-Fade: will be giving that22:11
fiferboyAh, under package do a "Submit Package" action?22:11
fiferboylbt: I can't make that session :(22:11
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phaeronfiferboy: yes actions --> submit package22:11
phaeronlbt: btw https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/52322:11
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fiferboyphaeron: "and with this package do: Update this package"?22:12
phaeronI usually choose "don't touch this package"22:12
fiferboyVery simple.  There it goes22:13
lbtsee22:13
lbtsee #meego-boss process it?22:13
fiferboylbt: Yep22:14
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fiferboyNow in the webui I see "Request #526" do I have to fill something out there?22:14
fiferboyI guess that is something to do with acceptance?22:14
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lbtand now... https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?project=MeeGo:1.2:Apps:Testing22:15
fiferboylbt: Sweet! Three packages22:15
lbtno meaningful checks yet22:15
phaeronwhen in doubt , make coffee :D22:15
lbtbut it's a proper process22:16
lbtauto-accepted22:16
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fiferboyExcellent.  I will now sing the praises of OBS22:16
lbtwill be based on having built in your home, you having commit rights and other sensible things22:16
lbtah, that was BOSS ;)22:16
fiferboyI will now sing the praises of OBS and BOSS22:17
lbt\o/22:17
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lbtphaeron: did you take the get_relevant_changelog.py from my home on the boss VM ?22:22
phaeronlbt: no , I thought you pushed that stuff,22:22
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lbtI'll check22:22
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fiferboyLooks like the armv8el build is having trouble with the build system22:24
phaeronlast I remember was the @ ruby no perl no python fix22:24
lbtI did22:24
lbtphaeron: we should think about abstracting the setup_obs() out too22:26
lbtsome Exo/OBS class22:26
lbtwhich extends buildservice22:26
lbtfiferboy: looking22:26
phaeronlbt: enough abstractions and rewrites please !22:27
lbtnot yet22:27
lbtit's only monday22:27
phaeronwe have a host of unported participants22:27
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lbthttp://pastie.org/191233022:27
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phaeronand a load of unwritten ones22:28
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phaeronlbt: what's the qemu version you have22:29
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lbtqemu-0.14.0_rc1-1.4.2.x86_6422:30
lbtopensuse 11.422:30
phaeronthere's 0.14 in devel:virtualization22:30
lbtmmm lots of OS upgrades too - including kernel22:31
fiferboylbt: So now I can add the Apps:Testing repo to my MeeGo installs and get those applications22:33
lbtyes22:34
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fiferboyIs there eventaully going to be a process to move tested applications to a repo that can be enabled by vendors out-of-the-box?22:35
lbtyes ... that's the start of it22:35
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DawnFosterlbt: missed your ping earlier, but I'm around now22:36
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lbtDawnFoster: I missed Mike in the IT room - he's planning an outage for meego.com ... can you have a word about announcing it22:39
DawnFosterlbt: I'll try to ping him - he probably stepped away from his computer for lunch22:40
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lbtta22:42
lbtphaeron: OK - I upgraded the worker OS - rebooting to new kernel22:42
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phaeronlbt: and qemu ?22:43
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lbtwasn't in the zypper up22:43
lbt1 thing at a time :)22:43
lbtthen... lets look at the Apps BOSS process22:44
lbtwhich is actually quite interesting22:44
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fiferboylbt: Build looks good now22:45
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lbtfiferboy: sadly it's because I rebooted the 'new' worker and dropped it to an old one22:46
fiferboylbt: Ah, I thought you magically made things better by upgrading22:47
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lbtno :(22:48
lbtphaeron ... so it's crashing on the mount -o ro -t ext4 /dev/hda1 /root22:48
lbtqemu.. mount... rings a bell22:48
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phaeronyou need mount-static ?22:49
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lbtgrrr22:50
phaeroncould be the problem22:50
lbtwhere is that from ?22:50
lbtnot in the normal repos22:50
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phaeronzypper wp ?22:52
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lbtthey are rpm in their own riht22:53
lbtnot sure what repo22:53
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phaerondoes zypper whatprovides say anything ?22:54
lbtsgs222:54
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lbtI thought this was google ;)22:55
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phaeronyou're just feeling lucky22:55
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luistwhere do i get Qt 4.7 for meego netbook?22:57
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gabrbeddluist: It's already on there.  Can you be more specific?22:58
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luistwhat repository22:59
luistcouldnt find on core/releases or netbook22:59
phaeronlbt: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=mount-static&project=openSUSE%3ATools22:59
gabrbeddluist: repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.1/22:59
lbtphaeron: needs to go in our worker install process23:00
gabrbeddluist: You want the source?  It's in a source/ repos.23:00
phaeronlbt: we're not sure yet it is actually the problem23:00
lbt99.9%23:00
luistgabrbedd: just the rpms23:00
phaeronit should be a dep of obs-worker23:00
gabrbeddluist: That'll be in the ia32/packages repos23:02
fiferboylbt, phaeron: Thanks for the help :)23:04
phaeronany time23:04
lbtphaeron: yay ... that was it23:05
lbtfiferboy: :)23:05
phaeronarmv8 on that worker works now ?23:05
lbtfiferboy - you are going to SF now aren't you?23:05
lbtyes23:05
fiferboyHopefully the OBS session on Saturday is well attended23:05
luistgabrbedd: cant it there… theres no qt package23:05
fiferboylbt: Yes, I get there Sunday midday23:05
lbtpubworker03 started "build meego-handset-dialer.spec"... Building meego-handset-dialer for project  'home:tswindell:branches:MeeGo.com:Trunk' repository 'DE_Trunk' arch  'armv8el' srcmd5 'bc174ce25b70f0ab57737f7dd93faaf1'23:05
lbtfiferboy: OK23:06
phaeroncool23:06
fiferboylbt: There is ice cream in San Fran, right?23:06
lbtfiferboy: *g*23:06
gabrbeddluist: the "qt" source package generates several packages with names like "libqt-qtcore" or something like that.  So no, there's no binary package called "qt"23:07
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* lcuk lobs a qt installer script @ CosmoHill 23:27
lcukCosmoHill, if I write a qt app, which of your systems would it be installable on?23:28
* CosmoHill tries to remember if he has Qt on his mac23:28
CosmoHillI got Qt on Win723:28
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ieatlintlbt: i should be at that OBS workshop on saturday23:41
ieatlintwill look forward to it :)23:41
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gabrbeddieatlint: When you go to San Francisco, be sure to wear flowers in your hair.23:48
ieatlinti live in san francisco23:49
ieatlintand i assure you, there are already flowers in my hair23:49
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gabrbeddieatlint: :-)23:51
gabrbeddieatlint: figures I'd use that on the wrong person....23:51
gabrbedd:-)23:51
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ieatlint:)23:51
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gabrbeddHey lbt:  when you go to San Francisco....23:52
ieatlintremember, don't be a tease and let that guy at the bar fruitlessly buy you drinks23:53
gabrbeddlol23:53
* gabrbedd wasn't going to go there.23:53
lbt*g*23:53
lbtgabrbedd: fly out friday23:53
lbtnow we're hunting Tango places...23:54
lbtieatlint ... know any?23:54
gabrbeddlbt: are you really?  that's cool!23:54
lbtgabrbedd: heh.... which bit ... Friday or Tango?23:54
gabrbeddlbt: both23:54
* gabrbedd will be there Sun AM23:55
lbtaw23:55
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lbtyou miss the construction event23:55
lbtthat was so much fun in Dublin23:55
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ieatlinttango as in the dance?23:55
lbtyup23:55
ieatlintI'm afraid not, neither does gf.. we both recommend looking on yelp.com23:56
ieatlinthttp://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=tango&ns=1&find_loc=san+francisco%2C+ca23:56
ieatlintyelp is the best resource for finding any bar/restaurant/social activity in the city23:57
ieatlintmany of the results there are likely for dance studios/classes23:57
* lbt digs about23:58
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gabrbeddlbt: Is Mrs. lbt coming, or are you going to dance with Niels?23:59
lbtthat would be very continental23:59
lbtbut no, Denise is coming23:59

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