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| DocScrutinizer | anyone Nokia around? | 00:09 |
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| ahf | Everyone that matches the hostmask *!*@nat/nokia/* :D | 00:10 |
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| thiago_home | *!*@nat/trolltech/* is also Nokia | 00:11 |
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| iekku | morning | 07:31 |
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| lcuk | so I was looking at qt quick yesterday, how do I get a package and ensure it is installable? | 09:37 |
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| timeless_w7ip | help | 09:39 |
| timeless_w7ip | anyone here familiar w/ the conference web site? | 09:39 |
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| * timeless_w7ip frowns | 09:41 | |
| timeless_w7ip | so... | 09:42 |
| timeless_w7ip | the conference wants registration wants some info | 09:42 |
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| timeless_w7ip | like <Organization>, <City>, <Country>, and <Work Phone> | 09:42 |
| timeless_w7ip | by the time of the conference, i won't have any of those ... | 09:42 |
| * timeless_w7ip currently doesn't have an Org and while the Work Phone is now just a Phone, it will be nothing by the time we reach the conference | 09:43 | |
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| Termana | morning | 09:47 |
| Stskeeps | morn Termana | 09:48 |
| Stskeeps | Termana: think you got hit by a facebook virus or you're more insane than i thought ;) | 09:48 |
| Termana | Stskeeps, heh yeah, sorry about that ;) | 09:48 |
| Termana | I was in the middle of deleting them when Facebook just went and cleaned them all up from everywhere. At least they are fast :p | 09:49 |
| timeless_w7ip | stskeeps: hrm | 09:49 |
| * timeless_w7ip needs to figure out this facebook thing | 09:49 | |
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| timeless_w7ip | wow, facebook's friend finder is really not very finger friendly if you try to drag its scrollbar south | 09:57 |
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| sivang | hi all | 10:09 |
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| sivang | how can I help the amazin Tablet project? | 10:10 |
| lcuk | write many qt quick applications! | 10:10 |
| sivang | :) | 10:10 |
| sivang | Well, I want to fix some bugs: | 10:10 |
| sivang | 1) Vkb blocking the way | 10:10 |
| sivang | 2) ajax browsing, facebook and gmail is no go | 10:11 |
| sivang | 3) email app is NOT working | 10:11 |
| sivang | but the release is a m a z i n g | 10:11 |
| sivang | ! | 10:11 |
| sivang | So enjoyable to browse the web, | 10:11 |
| lcuk | does youtube work? | 10:11 |
| timeless_w7ip | you can't use facebook or gmail, and it's amazing? | 10:11 |
| sivang | use twitter (though chromium) | 10:11 |
| * timeless_w7ip puzzles | 10:11 | |
| sivang | you tube works excellently! | 10:11 |
| timeless_w7ip | can you at least use /. and news.google.com (including fast-flip)? | 10:11 |
| sivang | lcuk: but not on full screen, which disappointed mom when she wanted to watch telenovelas | 10:12 |
| timeless_w7ip | (including moderation for /. ..) | 10:12 |
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| sivang | timeless_w7ip: what's fast flip? | 10:12 |
| sivang | did not try to log into news.g.c or /. | 10:12 |
| sivang | but book reading is fun | 10:12 |
| timeless_w7ip | sivang: load news.google.com and select us edition if you don't see fast flip | 10:12 |
| timeless_w7ip | it should be near the bottom of the right column | 10:12 |
| sivang | Not with the tablet UX now, on my other laptop with Ubuntu | 10:12 |
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| timeless_w7ip | well, you can check now just to recognize it and get a feel for what it should do | 10:13 |
| sivang | okay | 10:13 |
| sivang | let me do that | 10:13 |
| sivang | timeless_w7ip: nice to see you here, btw | 10:13 |
| sivang | timeless_w7ip: I'm not that lucky to meet you in SF or are you coming? | 10:13 |
| timeless_w7ip | i'm coming | 10:14 |
| sivang | timeless_w7ip: yay! | 10:14 |
| timeless_w7ip | i'm not employed now and won't be then | 10:14 |
| timeless_w7ip | but i'm coming | 10:14 |
| sivang | not employed?? | 10:14 |
| timeless_w7ip | heck, i won't have a residence | 10:14 |
| timeless_w7ip | yeah, i left nokia | 10:14 |
| * sivang O__o's | 10:14 | |
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| sivang | timeless_w7ip: on your own will? | 10:14 |
| sivang | ah | 10:14 |
| sivang | I se | 10:14 |
| sivang | timeless_w7ip: coming back to the states? | 10:15 |
| sivang | timeless_w7ip: if you want to take a vacation and come visit here, you have where to stay you know.. | 10:15 |
| timeless_w7ip | i'm moving to toronto actually | 10:15 |
| sivang | timeless_w7ip: ah great | 10:15 |
| * sivang wish he could hang out in toronto for a while | 10:15 | |
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| sivang | timeless_w7ip: I wll visit my friend's family in Montreal right after, I was ther for the Ubutu conference 2005 but now finally for some leisure! :-) | 10:16 |
| sivang | timeless_w7ip: e.g. they are my lodging | 10:16 |
| sivang | timeless_w7ip: so we can sit with Mats and perhaps others on having UI guildlines and the compliance spec embody quality lessons | 10:18 |
| sivang | timeless_w7ip: I should file a BOF | 10:18 |
| sivang | timeless_w7ip: texrat also said he's interested, see meego-communiy | 10:18 |
| timeless_w7ip | sorry, i need to sell my apartment and catalog it | 10:19 |
| sivang | sure thing | 10:20 |
| sivang | timeless_w7ip: let me know when you can skype/ chat wha'ever | 10:20 |
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| thiago | mmeeks: hello | 10:29 |
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| sivang | so how can we fix the problem in gmail where scrolling is not possible due to non free web page real estate? | 10:29 |
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| sivang | or perhaps that's not the issue, since on regular chormium with only touch support enabled it works, albeit squicky | 10:30 |
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| mmeeks | thiago: helloa :-) | 10:32 |
| sivang | hey thiago | 10:33 |
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| timeless_w7ip | sivang: does it work in Fennec? :) | 10:35 |
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| timeless_w7ip | surely that's a tractable problem :) | 11:12 |
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| rzr | hi there is a intel/meego event in paris now, any one there ? | 13:16 |
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| han__ | hello | 14:42 |
| CosmoHill | hi | 14:42 |
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| jargon- | hi | 14:43 |
| maagi | HI I have set up OBS as per steps on the wiki , I am getting the following error on my webui Error 503 Message: Unable to connect to API host. (localhost) can somebody help | 14:43 |
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| han__ | I have a question what camera MeeGo 1.1 support?Thankyou | 14:46 |
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| han__ | I have a question what camera MeeGo 1.1 support?Thankyou | 14:48 |
| jani | i'd assume if the camera has v4l drivers, its supported by meego ? | 14:48 |
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| han__ | Who used camera by usb? | 14:51 |
| han__ | I want use camera on the meego 1.1? | 14:53 |
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| han__ | Who used camera by usb? I want use camera on the meego 1.1? | 14:54 |
| Stskeeps | no need to repeat your question | 14:54 |
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| han__ | Who used camera by usb? I want use camera on the meego 1.1? | 14:59 |
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| Stskeeps | han__: please do not repeat your question. usb camera works fine but you may have to build kernel drivers for it yourself | 15:00 |
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| han__ | Thankyou | 15:01 |
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| Venemo_N900 | how can I get apt-get to ignore the dependencies of something? | 15:04 |
| Venemo_N900 | wrong channel | 15:05 |
| Venemo_N900 | nevermind | 15:05 |
| CosmoHill | man apt-get or apt-get --help | 15:05 |
| jargon- | lol | 15:05 |
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| han__ | use usb camera , after build kernel drivers , how to package it into an image?thankyou | 15:07 |
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| Stskeeps | han__: mic2 program | 15:08 |
| han__ | thankyou | 15:12 |
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| rzr | http://dgui.wordpress.com/2011/05/12/nokia-n9n950-leaks-with-hexband-3g/ | 15:15 |
| Stskeeps | rumours and such, #meego-bar, please | 15:15 |
| rzr | ok sure | 15:16 |
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| RST38h | Hey, that is official FCC filing, no rumor | 15:17 |
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| RST38h | s.be.get | 15:18 |
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| rzr | RST38h: bar , well this article does not worth to be shared | 15:34 |
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| Myrtti | I'm having far too much fun doing my draft slides for the conference | 17:51 |
| Myrtti | not that I have any content to put into them, but designing what background to use is hilarious | 17:52 |
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| berndhs | who needs content when you have style :) | 17:54 |
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| Myrtti | yeah, I think I might ask Texrat to design me a pink unicorn meegon | 17:54 |
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| gabrbedd | Myrtti: OMG! Ponies! | 17:55 |
| Myrtti | indeed! | 17:55 |
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| Myrtti | was already making a background using cc-licenced pink unicorn cookies as an eyecatcher | 17:56 |
| Myrtti | but it looked a bit lame | 17:56 |
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| gabrbedd | Reminds me of a couple years ago on 4/1 when slashdot switched to a pink-and-white ponies theme for the day. | 17:57 |
| Myrtti | http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Unicorn_Law | 17:57 |
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| Myrtti | although the last part of the definition doesn't apply in this case | 17:58 |
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| gabrbedd | Ha -- that's so true. | 18:02 |
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| mikhas_ | gabrbedd, you think of cuteoverload.com ;-) | 18:05 |
| mikhas_ | AFAIK, that was the /. theme | 18:06 |
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| gabrbedd | mikhas_: haha -- my daughter might like that site. :-) | 18:12 |
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| lcuk | gabrbedd, did you get your bugs triaged? | 18:38 |
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| gabrbedd | lcuk: Not sure what it means to be 'triaged' -- but I think so. | 18:40 |
| gabrbedd | lcuk: They recommended I propose them as release blockers (which I did) | 18:41 |
| lcuk | good | 18:41 |
| gabrbedd | lcuk: So those bugs are getting more action today. Also Kimmo (an mcompositor dev) has been very helpful in private e-mails. | 18:41 |
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| gabrbedd | lcuk: Thanks again for your advice. :-) | 18:41 |
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| gabrbedd | lcuk: I'm also starting to explore alternate WM's. | 18:43 |
| lcuk | gabrbedd, hope you can return the favour at some point, I really like that you have started to build hw+sw combo | 18:43 |
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| lcuk | gabrbedd, liqbase is good for that :O | 18:43 |
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| * lcuk dd's the latest n900-de image | 18:43 | |
| gabrbedd | lcuk: As a general-purpose window manager? | 18:44 |
| lcuk | no, there isn't everything working in it but good enough for playing | 18:45 |
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| gabrbedd | lcuk: That's very cool. | 18:46 |
| lcuk | I did it early on when I got my ideapad but it is simpler to keep standard ux | 18:46 |
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| lcuk | how does tablet ux handle opening/closing the lid? | 18:46 |
| lcuk | or does your device not have one? | 18:46 |
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| gabrbedd | lcuk: My device is a tablet. I haven't spent much time with the MeeGo UX on my ideapad. | 18:49 |
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| gandhijee | hey, how do i get a module to load at boot in meego? | 18:55 |
| Stskeeps | udev | 18:57 |
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| gabrbedd | gandhijee: A kernel module? | 18:58 |
| gandhijee | yeah, i thought i could just make a file inside /etc/modprobe.d/ with the module name in it and that would be enough | 18:58 |
| gandhijee | but apparently its not | 18:58 |
| gabrbedd | gandhijee: See Stskeeps's answer. If that fails... putting a modprobe command in /etc/rc.local is a quick-and-easy hack. | 19:00 |
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| gandhijee | where is stskeeps answer? | 19:00 |
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| gandhijee | oh udev | 19:00 |
| gandhijee | sorry. | 19:00 |
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| gandhijee | Stskeeps: can you enlighten me on how to use udev to load a module at boot? | 19:27 |
| Stskeeps | gandhijee: generally, use the philosophy of autodetection | 19:27 |
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| Stskeeps | but in truth, your board description/bus should autodetect the device | 19:27 |
| Stskeeps | in kernel | 19:27 |
| gandhijee | Stskeeps: well this module isn't for hardware, it generates some funky data for me | 19:27 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 19:27 |
| Stskeeps | why not compile it in, then? | 19:28 |
| gandhijee | i guess i could put some random id in there maybe | 19:28 |
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| gabrbedd | gandhijee: are you planning on shipping this module to customer(s)? | 19:28 |
| gandhijee | gabrbedd: yes | 19:28 |
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| gabrbedd | gandhijee: Is this for a specific device? | 19:29 |
| gandhijee | no you can use it on anything | 19:29 |
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| gabrbedd | OK, you'll need to learn how to write a udev rule (These are in... if I recall correct... /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/) | 19:30 |
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| gabrbedd | You'll want to provide your own file in that folder, with a rule that always fires. | 19:31 |
| gabrbedd | In the action, you can load the module or fire off some kind of config script. | 19:31 |
| gabrbedd | There's plenty of examples in there. | 19:32 |
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| andyross | Backing up, I'm with Stskeeps: if you want the module loaded always, why isn't it compiled in? What does it do? | 20:06 |
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| gabrbedd | andyross: I can see doing it as a module so that you can load/unload it for debugging or disable it as a workaround to a customer issue.. | 20:13 |
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| gabrbedd | For one... it means the dev and the customer are working on the same thing. | 20:14 |
| andyross | Fair enough. I guess it depends on what it does. | 20:14 |
| dm8tbr | there are modules that need to be reloaded for certain reasons | 20:14 |
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| dm8tbr | e.g. musb_hdrc on certain OMAP3 hardware is preferably reloaded with the right personality | 20:15 |
| dm8tbr | as auto mode is b0rken | 20:15 |
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| gandhijee | gabrbedd: thanks | 20:26 |
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| gabrbedd | gandhijee: np | 20:27 |
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| greentea | hi friends | 20:33 |
| lcuk | \o | 20:34 |
| greentea | :D | 20:34 |
| gabrbedd | howdy! | 20:34 |
| gabrbedd | Didn't I drink you last night? | 20:34 |
| greentea | lol hopefully, green tea is awesome | 20:35 |
| greentea | definitely healthy | 20:35 |
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| gabrbedd | I just think it's tasty. :-) | 20:35 |
| berndhs | i need some coffee :P | 20:35 |
| greentea | one of if not the most healthiest drink in the world,check out this list http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=5560171 | 20:35 |
| greentea | really neat stuff, wish all drank it :) | 20:36 |
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| gabrbedd | lcuk: Have you done much XComposite coding? | 20:38 |
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| Venemo | what window manager does MeeGo use? I know that the netbook ux uses mutter, but what about the others? | 20:44 |
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| Stskeeps | Venemo: mcompositor, some used matchbox | 20:46 |
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| gabrbedd | I heard that IVI used/uses matchbox, but switch/is-switching-to mcompositor | 20:47 |
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| lcuk | gabrbedd, nope, whats the boggle with it? | 20:48 |
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| Venemo | Isn't mcompositor part of MTF? I heard that MTF is deprecated | 20:49 |
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| w00t_ | it'll go away with wayland, I expect | 20:51 |
| gabrbedd | lcuk: XCompositeUnredirectWindow() says it gives a BadValue error if the window wasn't already redirected. I wasn't sure if that was an OMG! error... or a "ho, hum" error. | 20:52 |
| Venemo | w00t_, is wayland ready yet for that? | 20:53 |
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| w00t_ | Venemo: right now? no, but it's maturing pretty fast | 20:53 |
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| sergiusens | maturing like PackageKit? | 20:54 |
| Venemo | w00t_, what is missing from it? | 20:54 |
| gabrbedd | Venemo: MTF is deprecated, and I heard Arjan say "Well, for 1.2 we're stuck with mcompositor." So, dunno what 1.3 will look like. Depends on how mcompositor matures. | 20:54 |
| Venemo | gabrbedd, and what WM does Intel's UX use? | 20:54 |
| gabrbedd | Venemo: I've also heard that wayland isn't expected to be stable for 1.3 | 20:55 |
| gabrbedd | AFAIK, every UX in MeeGo uses mcompositor -- except for netbook. | 20:55 |
| andyross | meego-ux uses mcompositor, though it's a forked package called "meego-ux-compositor" | 20:55 |
| Venemo | thanks gabrbedd & andyross | 20:55 |
| Venemo | and is there some API documentation of this mcompositor? | 20:55 |
| gabrbedd | andyross: when did the fork happen? | 20:56 |
| andyross | Pretty recently. I noticed it early this week, but didn't track back. | 20:56 |
| w00t_ | Venemo: it's a window manager - it doesn't have an API | 20:56 |
| Venemo | w00t_, it's a library | 20:56 |
| w00t_ | mcompositor is not a library | 20:56 |
| w00t_ | it's an application | 20:56 |
| gabrbedd | andyross: ok. I'm working on a build from last week, and I was pretty sure it was meegotouch-compositor. Thanks for the update. | 20:56 |
| Venemo | w00t_, TEMPLATE = lib in its .pro file pretty much means that it's a library, doesn't it? | 20:57 |
| w00t_ | was hildon-desktop's library a library? | 20:57 |
| gabrbedd | Venemo: /usr/bin/mcompositor is a stub, and all the functionality is in /usr/lib/mcompositor.so.0 | 20:57 |
| gabrbedd | der... libmcompositor.so.0 | 20:57 |
| Venemo | aah. | 20:57 |
| andyross | http://build.meego.com/package/show?package=meego-ux-compositor&project=Trunk shows that it appeared early last week. I saw Rusty fix a bug in it just today. I'm not sure whether meego-ux images are using it yet or not. | 20:57 |
| gabrbedd | I don't think it's /intended/ to be a public library. | 20:58 |
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| Venemo | mhm | 20:58 |
| andyross | Pretty sure that library is/was for sharing with the decorator plugins. It's not a window behavior thing. | 20:59 |
| andyross | (note that the decorator facility was yanked from meego-ux-compositor) | 20:59 |
| Venemo | mhm | 21:00 |
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| dneary | DawnFoster, Ping? | 21:22 |
| alterego | dneary: do you know when we find out who we're sharing rooms with? | 21:23 |
| dneary | alterego, If you made a choice on the accommodation webpage then that's final, otherwise people were paired up randomly based on arrival & departure dates last time - I found out on the desk, IIRC | 21:26 |
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| alterego | dneary: okay thanks, I just didn't want to choose so I thought I'd leave it to entropy ;) | 21:31 |
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| gabrbedd | alterego: Entropy is going to kill you. | 21:52 |
| gabrbedd | It's going to kill us all. | 21:52 |
| * CosmoHill flees | 21:53 | |
| berndhs | the faster you run, the sooner Entropy will kill you | 21:54 |
| * CosmoHill stops for dinner | 21:54 | |
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| alterego | Heh | 22:00 |
| alterego | I like to be the eye of entropy akin to the storm. | 22:00 |
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| alterego | "I am a leaf in the wind, see how I soar" | 22:01 |
| alterego | Jaffa: I want a buddy to meet up when we land to go with to the hotel? You up for meeting up at SFO when we touch down? | 22:01 |
| npm | bluegriffon runs nicely on meego: http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo-Lem-Firefox4#Setup_Firefox4-based_BlueGriffon_Web_Editor_Too | 22:02 |
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| lcuk | I just filed a bug 17524 regarding QML in peregrine missing a pan to desktop, did I use the correct term to describe the issue? | 22:10 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17524 nor, Undecided, ---, james.ausmus, NEW, [N900 DE] Peregrine QML UI does not have "Pan to desktop" | 22:10 |
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| gabrbedd | lcuk: Ah! That bug again! | 22:13 |
| gabrbedd | lcuk: does an image appear for the window switcher button? | 22:13 |
| lcuk | nope | 22:14 |
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| gabrbedd | luck: no window title. no window close button? | 22:17 |
| lcuk | gabrbedd, yes it has a custom button | 22:17 |
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| gabrbedd | lcuk: is this the same as bug 2953 ? | 22:21 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2953 nor, High, ---, jesse.barnes, REOP, Many third-party Apps' window (i.e. glxgears, xterm) is not working in the fullscreen mode | 22:21 |
| gabrbedd | lcuk: Or more like the other one where the status bar doesn't route your click to the app. close? | 22:22 |
| gabrbedd | FWIW, on tablet UX... it's mandated that the task switcher be triggered by a hardware button. No UI stuff. | 22:22 |
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| lcuk | gabrbedd, sounds reasonable, but here on n900 it is normal to have the soft button in top left | 22:38 |
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| timoph | IMO the hw button requirement is simply a mistake | 22:41 |
| lcuk | http://imgur.com/c5YKo made me giggle | 22:41 |
| lcuk | timoph, the one that works from proximity sensor is silly | 22:41 |
| lcuk | the n810 had a perfect hardware button combo | 22:41 |
| timoph | yep. but most of the things were possible from UI too | 22:42 |
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| timoph | IIRC full screen toggle was the only thing not possible from ui | 22:43 |
| lcuk | timoph, as soon as we see wall mounted devices the placement of these buttons will be more important | 22:43 |
| lcuk | gorilla arm and having to reach to the top of the screen will be an issue | 22:43 |
| timoph | yep | 22:43 |
| lcuk | my old x41 had hardware buttons in bottom left | 22:44 |
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| lcuk | oh nice, the -de has arrived at white screen | 22:45 |
| * lcuk scratches head | 22:45 | |
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| timoph | I not saying there shouldn't be any hw keys. I'm saying that their functions should be possible from ui too | 22:45 |
| lcuk | I have UI which expects buttons in different places | 22:46 |
| timoph | lcuk: did that for me a couple times today. It recovered after a while | 22:46 |
| lcuk | short pressing power button got to lock screen, but unlocking still leaves the white screen | 22:46 |
| lcuk | errr pale blue | 22:46 |
| * lcuk thinks problem is QML | 22:46 | |
| timoph | something like QDialog does with standard buttons? Their order changes based to match the used system | 22:47 |
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| lcuk | timoph, yeah that would be practical | 22:48 |
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| lcuk | but for fullscreen dialogs with scrollbars and other misc border chrome | 22:48 |
| andre__ | does meego have a docmaster for the wiki? | 22:48 |
| timoph | andre__: AFAIK no | 22:48 |
| CosmoHill | don't believe so | 22:49 |
| * lcuk wonders who would be qualified | 22:49 | |
| CosmoHill | what does a doc master do? | 22:49 |
| andre__ | CosmoHill, unfuck the wiki, for example | 22:49 |
| andre__ | well, I just run into awesome file names, like "L10n meeting summary 19 March", "L10N IRC Meeting March 19, 2010" and "L10N meeting 3 19". Yes, all three of them actually exist. | 22:49 |
| DawnFoster | language, people | 22:49 |
| * andre__ adds it to his to-do list | 22:50 | |
| andre__ | DawnFoster, ach... :) | 22:50 |
| DawnFoster | :) | 22:50 |
| CosmoHill | apart from revision I have a lot of spare time | 22:50 |
| andre__ | I expected that I could maybe delegate it :-P | 22:50 |
| CosmoHill | so I might have a look about the wiki if you'd like / supply me with tea] | 22:50 |
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| CosmoHill | and chocolate digestives | 22:50 |
| andre__ | hmm, yummy... | 22:51 |
| andre__ | not that I have more too complain about right now, but I guess there are enough dark corners existing | 22:51 |
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| CosmoHill | one of the first things I did for meego was correct the who's who list | 22:52 |
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| * gabrbedd thinks DawnFoster has a dirty word detector on her IRC client... | 22:55 | |
| timoph | :) | 22:55 |
| DawnFoster | ha! it would seem like I do | 22:56 |
| DawnFoster | I just have funny timing :) | 22:56 |
| gabrbedd | #whatCommunityManagersDo | 22:56 |
| boss | gabrbedd: Error: "whatCommunityManagersDo" is not a valid command. | 22:56 |
| gabrbedd | bass: Who asked you? | 22:56 |
| gabrbedd | #whatCommunityManagersDo | 22:56 |
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| DawnFoster | I think my community manager spidey sense kicks in when someone swears | 22:57 |
| CosmoHill | poopoo | 22:57 |
| DawnFoster | I get an uncontrollable urge to look at irc | 22:57 |
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| DawnFoster | ha! | 22:58 |
| andre__ | "sausage." | 22:58 |
| CosmoHill | (that's nothing compared to what I called my mate last night) | 22:58 |
| jani | "nakki" | 22:58 |
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| Stskeeps | thiago_home: ping | 23:01 |
| CosmoHill | andre__: so basically a dude(tte) who goes through the wiki looking for stupid things to clear up? | 23:02 |
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| GAN900 | CosmoHill, more than that. | 23:11 |
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| CosmoHill | go on | 23:12 |
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| GAN900 | Well, that also includes things like outlining structure, deciding docs conventions, delegating admins, facilitating contributors, etc, etc. | 23:13 |
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| thiago_home | Stskeeps: pong | 23:16 |
| Stskeeps | thiago_home: nm, sent mail about 323 (wasn't sure if you had any proposals for when to put it) | 23:16 |
| thiago_home | I do. There's a perfect slot for it. | 23:17 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 23:18 |
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| ace | hi | 23:23 |
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| CosmoHill | hello | 23:23 |
| ace | i m back from french solutionlinux event | 23:24 |
| ace | with a nice lenovo gift | 23:24 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 23:24 |
| Stskeeps | remember to install meego on it ;) | 23:24 |
| ace | it s already installed on it | 23:24 |
| dm8tbr | install a weekly image | 23:25 |
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| dm8tbr | the preinstalled one sux | 23:25 |
| ace | okay | 23:25 |
| ace | but i have a more important things to do | 23:25 |
| ace | it s a US computer, with US plug :) | 23:25 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 23:25 |
| Stskeeps | the adaptor is easy to find, afaik | 23:25 |
| ace | yup, just have to find one | 23:25 |
| dm8tbr | sure. I just took one of my 16 million matching spare cables | 23:26 |
| dm8tbr | screw adaptors | 23:26 |
| CosmoHill | got a new power adapter for my mac and it comes with a very nice cable that has a US plug on it | 23:26 |
| dm8tbr | it's a standard cable | 23:26 |
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| ace | not standard in france :) | 23:27 |
| CosmoHill | US plugs tend not to be standard outside of the US | 23:27 |
| ace | they asked us to port our game www.ryzom.com not sure it ll be easy to make it working on embeded devices :) | 23:28 |
| ace | CosmoHill: indeed | 23:28 |
| dm8tbr | ace: you misunderstand, look at the _other_ end of the cable | 23:31 |
| dm8tbr | the one that plugs into this black brick | 23:31 |
| dm8tbr | that is a standard connector | 23:31 |
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| CosmoHill | dm8tbr: "duh" | 23:32 |
| dm8tbr | just pull it out of the black brick, throw away the cable with the US connector and get one that matches your connections | 23:32 |
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| ace | dm8tbr: http://www.1st-product.com/uploads/4/1971/ul-power-cord-set-2-888.jpg | 23:32 |
| ace | dm8tbr: the female one yes | 23:32 |
| CosmoHill | just a standard cloverleaf connector | 23:33 |
| dm8tbr | it's not a cloverleaf | 23:33 |
| CosmoHill | ace: do you need to worry about the voltage? | 23:33 |
| lcuk | gabrbedd, I notice you are still having odd problems with the compositor. I gather the issues you noticed would actually have same problem using the netbook ux? | 23:33 |
| dm8tbr | it only has two poles | 23:33 |
| ace | CosmoHill: no it s 220v here in france | 23:33 |
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| berndhs | look at the brick, it will tolerate 220v | 23:34 |
| ace | yup | 23:34 |
| CosmoHill | unplug it from the laptop, plug it into the extention lead outside and find out | 23:34 |
| ace | in france we use http://clip2net.com/clip/m9195/1305232484-clip-3kb.jpg | 23:35 |
| ace | and it doesn't enter in the "black brick" | 23:35 |
| berndhs | be a man, cut the cord, un-isolate the wires and plug them in | 23:35 |
| CosmoHill | ace: that's a figure of 8 | 23:36 |
| CosmoHill | ace: you should be able to buy a cloverleaf easy enough | 23:36 |
| gabrbedd | lcuk: Nope. netbook is using mutter... so it has different problems. | 23:36 |
| ace | yup it s not a prob | 23:36 |
| lcuk | gabrbedd, eep | 23:36 |
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| gabrbedd | lcuk: Actually, I only had ONE problem with mutter. | 23:36 |
| gabrbedd | lcuk: menus don't work in some FLTK-based apps | 23:37 |
| CosmoHill | are we having a conversation about something that isn't any issue at all? | 23:37 |
| gabrbedd | CosmoHill: Are you talking to me? :-p | 23:37 |
| CosmoHill | depends, are you as lonely as I am? | 23:37 |
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| gabrbedd | CosmoHill: no. | 23:38 |
| CosmoHill | :( | 23:39 |
| CosmoHill | wait, yay | 23:39 |
| CosmoHill | I'm confused, lets move on | 23:39 |
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| CosmoHill | oh oh, speaking of laptop chargers | 23:39 |
| lcuk | gabrbedd, ok so with these varying compositor bugs and problems | 23:39 |
| ace | i ll go to #plugs for my problem :) | 23:39 |
| CosmoHill | my new laptop charger uses a figure of 8 cable like that, it's a powerbook so an earth cable would be appreachated | 23:40 |
| lcuk | is it possible to make a short wiki page describing all of them | 23:40 |
| lcuk | so that they could be shown to specific compositor engineer | 23:40 |
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| gabrbedd | lcuk: Most of my problems don't seem to be with the compositing logic. | 23:41 |
| gabrbedd | lcuk: The WM's were written with assumptions that typically hold true for a Qt-based, single-window app. | 23:42 |
| gabrbedd | well, mcompositor was. | 23:42 |
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| gabrbedd | I'll think about the wiki thing... but I'm kind of inclined to point people to the BMC#'s. | 23:43 |
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| Stskeeps | the logic is along the lines of that composition is slow, fullscreen is fast | 23:43 |
| lcuk | gabrbedd, the wiki can do that too | 23:43 |
| auke | whoah, office | 23:43 |
| Stskeeps | (no composition needed) | 23:43 |
| Stskeeps | auke: back from holiday? | 23:43 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 23:43 |
| auke | back from sicknessedness | 23:44 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 23:44 |
| gabrbedd | Stskeeps: Right... but I'm battling WM-issues, not compositing WM-issues. | 23:45 |
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| berndhs | thats what I should make, a window manager | 23:45 |
| gabrbedd | (Although I may have found /one/ compositing issue... locks up the whole screen... ) | 23:45 |
| * Stskeeps looks forward to a wayland future | 23:46 | |
| gabrbedd | berndhs: Cool! I'll make one, too! | 23:46 |
| Stskeeps | my mind is still blown from the fact it's possible to make well-performing compositors in qml | 23:46 |
| gabrbedd | Stskeeps: who did that? | 23:47 |
| gabrbedd | or... more accurately... where? | 23:47 |
| Stskeeps | gabrbedd: http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2011/03/18/multi-process-lighthouse/ | 23:47 |
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| gabrbedd | Stskeeps: thanks. that *is* cool. | 23:49 |
| Stskeeps | it's really simple to work with, too | 23:49 |
| mikhas | Stskeeps, everything is fast on a desktop | 23:51 |
| gabrbedd | lcuk: true. I'll see about it in a few hours. | 23:51 |
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| gabrbedd | auke: Welcome back! | 23:53 |
| Stskeeps | mikhas: http://stskeeps.subnetmask.net/wayland/20110419_002.jpg | 23:54 |
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| Stskeeps | but yeah, i get your point | 23:55 |
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