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CosmoHillat what point does the following sentence go wrong:01:16
CosmoHill"According to the American Central Intelligence Agency's Factbook,"01:16
CosmoHillshit, I read that as facebook, strike this from your memory01:16
leinircentral?01:16
tripz0haha01:16
tripz0win01:16
tripz0American... Intelleigence may be considered by some as conflicting terms... an oxymoron if you will01:17
tripz0but i can only speak for myself01:18
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berndhsnah Facebook is NSA, not CIA01:20
tripz0ols01:21
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Venemowill this work on my F15? http://wiki.meego.com/SDK/Docs/1.0/MeeGo_SDK_with_Xephyr02:24
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berndhsVenemo: when you find out, let me know :)02:27
Venemoberndhs, is it supposed to work on Fedora at all?02:27
berndhsi dont know, I use more pedestrian methods02:28
Venemowhich are?02:28
berndhsqmake, make, rpmbuild :)02:28
berndhstext editor02:28
Venemomhm02:28
Venemoand do you own a MeeGo device to test it on?02:28
berndhsi dont like IDE much, too bossy most of the time02:29
berndhsi have a laptop with netbook meego02:29
berndhsso i dont really know how things work on little screens02:29
berndhsjust that the core stuff is stable02:29
Venemonice02:30
Venemowell, I don't have a separate laptop just to run MeeGo.02:30
berndhsand i also cant verify the phone radio parts, or GPS or accelerometers02:30
berndhsi have a dual boot laptop for that02:31
berndhsgot my spec files to work on fedora and meego02:31
berndhsreal phones are months away still, there's only the n900, which wont be commercial02:32
berndhsso all that is kinda iffy02:32
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dm8tbrmood goraning07:19
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jumentoushi, is it possible to create a usb key with syslinux and use kickstart to do an install of meego like you would fedora/redhat?09:03
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jumentousi know there is the image creator, but it doesn't seem to want to make useful images and i'm not worried about the graphical install so i just want to run my kickstart script on boot09:03
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bkalingaIs there any IRC for asking MTF related question10:04
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bkalingacan some one tell; meego platform specific keyword that Qt recognizes12:48
bkalingafor example win32: for windows12:48
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bkalingasymbian: for symbian12:48
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X-Fadelbt: For the Apps Per UX targets should we do snapshots from core obs instead of binary imports of the published repo?13:18
lbtFor 1.2?13:18
X-FadeYeah.13:18
lbtwill there be per-UX targets?13:18
X-FadeAs the 1.2 repo is everything there is. But the per UX setup defined in core obs.13:19
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X-Fadelbt: Well at least there is Trunk:Handset, Trunk:IVI etc.13:20
lbtneed to ask what are we trying to achieve13:20
lbt2 things I think13:20
X-FadeSo I guess for 1.2 there will be per UX package groups at least.13:20
StskeepsX-Fade: those are stale and unmaintained. not entirely sure why they are there still13:20
lbt1 make somewhere to get apps suitable for your target13:20
lbt2 support some kind of 'compliance'13:20
lbtI personally think apps builds against *everything* in 1.213:21
lbtthen the web/client should focus in13:21
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lbtand something else can do compliance warnings13:21
X-FadeStskeeps: How is a vendor supposed to grep everything for his UX? Using the correct mic or something like that?13:21
lbteg a pre-/post- BOSS tool that gets bdeps and analyses them13:21
StskeepsX-Fade: package groups13:22
lbtyeah, but that's not relevant to apps13:22
lbtthat's an image thing13:22
X-Fadelbt: Well that at least specifies which dependencies will be available.13:23
Stskeepscompliance tools exist that check deps..13:23
lbtyep13:23
lbtand Stskeeps...13:23
lbta compliant app - will all deps be 'on device' ?13:23
Stskeepsthere is a compliance package group13:23
Stskeepsso i suppose13:24
X-FadeBut that doesn't include UX :)13:24
lbtno, you can't depend on having a UX I guess13:24
lbt*g*13:24
lbtlets focus on what to build Apps: against13:24
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X-FadeWhy doesn't anybody see a problem in a setup like this :)13:24
lbtStskeeps: should we build against core:* or core:<just compliant libs>13:25
lbts/libs/pkgs/13:25
Stskeepslbt, postchecks are prolly only way13:25
lbtOK - kinda happy with that13:26
X-FadeI still would hate it that it builds fine, but doesn't install.13:26
lbtSo X-Fade, I think the answer is 'import published repo'13:27
X-FadeSo we really need ot make sure that doesn't happen.13:27
StskeepsX-Fade: then make build fail when it isnt ;p13:27
lbtX-Fade: yep ... so this is the post-build check13:27
X-FadeAnd give up on the nice dependency checking in OBS :(13:27
lbtand we can check the home:user binary before even acceptting to :Testing13:27
lbtno, this is additional checks13:27
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X-Fadelbt: Well OBS dependency checks will always succeed as we have the kitchensink in there ;)13:28
lbtjust because OBS builds it doesn't mean it meets criteria for a specific use case13:28
lbtyep13:28
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X-Fadelbt: But how would we specify build targets per UX then? Just create projects that all inherit the core repo?13:30
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* thiago sees in the schedule "live action angry birds"13:36
thiago:-)13:36
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w00t_thiago: we should have evening angry birds games instead of werewolf13:38
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Venemohey guys13:44
Venemothe MeeGo SDK repos are in need of a serious update13:44
Venemohttp://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/sdk/host/repos/13:44
Venemoplus, they have an archaic version of Qt in them - even my distribution packages a newer Qt than that13:45
Venemocould someone do something about thsi?13:46
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thiagow00t_: werewolf is after angry birds13:49
thiagow00t_: btw, have you seen the "angry nerds" ?13:49
w00t_nope13:49
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thiagohttp://www.atlassian.com/en/angrynerds13:50
thiagoI should point out that this came out 19 days ago13:51
w00t_... haha13:52
alteregoJust got my session denial message13:52
alteregos/message/email13:52
w00t_Forks into 3 smaller, crappier devs.13:52
w00t_someone put way too much thought into this13:52
Stskeepsat least they're being sent out13:52
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alteregoI hope that I still get sponsorship to attend though13:53
Stskeepswe'll see - different department13:53
alteregoI'd really like to volunteer for the warm up sessions helping people with UX and Qt development13:54
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alteregotbh, I don't really like talking anyway, I'm happy to join sabotage in his dialer talk though, hopefully show casing new qml UX13:54
Stskeeps:nod:13:55
Stskeepshope for the best13:55
alteregoMaybe I could get him to put my name down in his talk13:55
alteregoThough probably too late now13:55
Stskeepsyeah, afaik13:55
MohammadAGalterego, doesn't that mean you'll have to use Qt Designer? :P13:55
alteregoMohammadAG: :P13:55
alteregoDoes it?13:55
alteregoI'll convert everyone to gedit :D13:56
alteregoQt Designer for QML pfft, just use gedit with these handy macros :D13:56
* alterego just noticed he left his mouse in the other room, so I've been hacking all morning with just the keyboard :D13:57
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MohammadAGalterego, oh, QML?13:59
thiagow00t_: the best april fools jokes have thought behind it14:00
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Venemoso, does anyone know why the MeeGo SDK repos are unmaintained?14:06
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Venemomeego-sdk-qt-creator is 2.0.1 (archaic)14:09
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priyankadoes meego 1.1 support selinux ?14:11
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wazdo/ all14:12
Venemohi14:12
wazdI have a small question bout US visa application. Who's my US contact. Brian Warner?14:13
wazdI'm not an expert in all this paperwork so sorry in advance :)14:14
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Stskeepspossibly, there should be someone you can prod when speaker acceptance mail comes14:14
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wazdStskeeps: I can't wait any longer unfortunately14:15
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wazdStskeeps: cause I'll have to wait for an interview for like 15 days14:15
edheldilHi all, anybody knows if  there's SimToolkit in meego for n900?14:15
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wazdStskeeps: Vlad and Tanya are already screwed up really hard btw :(14:16
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Stskeepswazd, visas are always a mess14:16
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jbosmhm i wonder is there a ready beagle board image for ivi?14:17
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Stskeepsif its impossible to get, remember to let program committee know14:17
jbosor panda board14:17
VenemoStskeeps, who should I ping to update the meego-sdk repo?14:17
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wazdStskeeps: well, I guess not quite visas but timings14:18
StskeepsVenemo: filed a bug14:18
VenemoStskeeps, could you give me the bug id?14:18
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StskeepsVenemo: i mean, file a bug14:19
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VenemoStskeeps, ah, okay14:21
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VenemoStskeeps, what should be the component of the bug? none of them really fits14:24
StskeepsVenemo: meego sdk generic14:24
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VenemoStskeeps, there is no generic14:24
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Venemookay, maybe "Other"14:25
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VenemoStskeeps, https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16464 -> this good enough?14:34
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MeeGoBotBug 16464 maj, Undecided, ---, kerry.jiang, NEW, MeeGo SDK repository is out of date14:34
Stskeepsok14:34
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VenemoI point out some other problems too.14:34
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wazdDo you seek to engage in terrorist activities while in the United States or have you ever engaged in terrorist activities? Error14:40
wazdSure, why not *facepalms*14:41
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niqthi14:42
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niqti have installed meego N900 DE14:42
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niqti have configured meego-sdk-qtcreator with meego-core-armv7l-1.1.214:43
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niqtbut when i build (ok) and run my simple application i have this error14:44
niqtpackage untitled14-0.0.1-1.armv7l is intended for a armv7l architecture14:44
niqt-bash: /usr/local/bin/untitled14: No such file or directory14:44
VenemoStskeeps, okay, the bug is closed as invalid, stating that the 1.2 SDK is better. however, I can't seem to find a repo for the 1.2 SDK.14:44
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niqtsomeone do know what's happen?14:45
niqtwhere i wrong?14:45
Stskeepsniqt: what image are you installing onto?14:46
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niqt18 april14:46
Stskeepsno, name14:46
Stskeepslike, filename14:46
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niqtmg-handset-armv7nhl-n900-de-acceptance-1.1.99.2.20110412.6.DE.2011-04-18.1-mmcblk0p.raw.bz214:48
Stskeepsok, so, you see the armv7nhl part?14:48
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niqti don't understand14:48
Stskeepsarmv7l is for softfp :)14:49
Stskeepsyou need a sysroot for armv7hl14:49
niqtwhich image i need?14:49
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Stskeepsnot sure 10014:50
Stskeeps%14:50
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niqtwhere can i get right sysroot?14:53
Stskeepsshould be on repo.meego.com14:53
Stskeepsbut i'm not sure if compilers are ready yet14:54
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niqtthus i can't compile for meego DE...14:55
niqtis right?14:56
Stskeepsright14:56
niqtthanks14:56
Stskeepswe're working on this part14:56
niqtI'm lucky :)14:56
niqtanyway thanks for your work14:57
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priyankadoes someone have an idea when the libcreds extension will be available for dbus15:10
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bkalingacan discuss MTF/service framework related stuff here15:28
bkalingaor there are dedicated IRC available for this15:29
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timeless_w7ipping15:45
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timeless_w7ipcould someone poke the last person to touch bug 1466315:47
MeeGoBotBug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14663 nor, Low, ---, nobody, NEW, cairo trace _init_logfile uses buf past its scope15:47
timeless_w7ipmoving bugs to nobody is the wrong behavior <period>15:47
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pohlytimeless_w7ip: this means that this last person has no clue who the real owner of this bug should be. QA will run queries against "owner = nobody" and assign to someone as part of regular bug triaging - at least that's what I heard.15:54
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Stskeepswhat pohly said15:55
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Stskeepsbetter than being stuck at someone who'll do nothing about it15:55
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ericlrStskeeps: indeed. also note that "needtriage" keyword is there to facilitate16:03
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ReissumiesDoes someone know is the webkit and/or webkit2 package available in some public place where I could take them and install to my meego device?16:16
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Stskeepswebkit package should be on repo.meego.com16:17
Stskeepswebkit2.. not sure16:17
Reissumiesany hints how to find that wekit package there.. I've never browsed the meego packages :)16:22
Stskeepsbuild.meego.com is always a good tool too16:22
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Reissumieswhat is the difference between build.meego.com and build.pub.meego.com? I want to create my "helloworld" browser using existing webkit engine. How can I find the webkit package from build service?16:29
Stskeepsbuild.meego.com is the "Core" OBS16:29
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Stskeepsbuild.pub.meego.com is for the rest, app devel, experiments, etc16:29
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Reissumiesok16:30
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Reissumiesand is there a way how to find is the QtWebkit API in meego?16:31
Reissumiesfind out..16:32
thiagoReissumies: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/16:33
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newjorhello,i want to know if  usb-camera  can be used on Meego-netbook? if can be used,how to do it?  here i have a usb-camera which of chip is zc3xx,and it can be used in linux2.6.35.16:34
Stskeepsnewjor: if the kernel supports it you can probably compile the right driver16:35
newjorlinux2.6.35 have already supported this driver,but i don't know the kernel of meego whether support it?16:36
Stskeepscheck the config / kernel settings16:36
newjorStskeeps: can you tell me the whole process to check it?thanks alot16:38
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Stskeepsnewjor: sure! where do i send the invoice? :)16:39
Stskeepsnewjor: hint, /boot/config* and that's what you need to know - i can only send you in the right direction, you have to make your homework yourself16:39
newjorok,sure16:40
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newjorwell,i can't find /boot/config...  on meego-netbook16:42
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gabrbeddnewjor: OK, so what do you find in the /boot folder.16:43
gabrbedd?16:43
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newjoroh,sorry,i have found it ,on /boot have one file 'config-2.6.35-netbook', do i modify it ?16:45
Stskeepsyou look inside and see if it has the driver16:46
Stskeepselse you need to build a new kernel which is more complex16:46
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newjori have found this drive,but it didn't be built into kernel,'config_usb_gspca=m',so if i should reconfig and rebuild the kernel?16:51
rgs_is there a way to start the installer in debug mode so i can get a shell to see whats going on at a certain point?16:52
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newjorStskeeps: how can i do it?16:57
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Stskeepsnewjor: if it's =m you should really get camera autodetected16:58
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newjorbut i can't find  /dev/video* when usb_camera inserted17:02
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gabrbeddnewjor: What does `dmesg` say after you plug in the camera?17:06
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gabrbeddnewjor: And is the driver in staging?  Most of the staging drivers do /not/ get built in the MeeGo kernel.17:07
newjorexecute print17:08
newjorexecute 'dmesg' and print pc camera and the manufacturer17:09
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newjorbut i execute 'lsmod' ,i can't find gspca while on fedora i can find this module17:10
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newjorgabrbedd: as i know, this driver is already built into linux 2.6.3x,so i think it is impossible in staging17:15
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gabrbeddnewjor: Is the module called "gspca" ?17:18
newjoryes17:18
kahlessisnt the meego n900 version "1.1.99.3 " supposed to released today?17:20
kahlessand was that proper english? :)17:20
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Stskeepskahless: meego-releases@17:20
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Stskeepsmailing list17:20
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gabrbeddnewjor: So what does `find /lib/modules -name "*gspca*" `  give you?17:21
kahlessStskeeps: ok, thx, ill check that out17:21
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gabrbeddnewjor: and likewise... do you know the CONFIG_* name for the driver?17:22
gabrbeddnewjor: You'll need that to inspect your config file to see if the driver was compiled into the kernel (instead of a module).17:22
gabrbeddnewjor: Just because it's in the kernel source tree doesn't mean that MeeGo enabled it.17:23
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newjorgabrbedd: i can find the modules 'gspca' in /lib/module, and inside the  /boot/config* i find 'config_usb_gspca=m'17:30
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newjorgabrbedd:i have inserted all *.ko inside the gspca17:35
newjorbut i still can't find the /dev/video17:35
gabrbeddnewjor: And `lsmod` ?17:37
gabrbeddOh, I see that above...17:37
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newjorcan find all the module which i insert17:37
gabrbeddnewjor: It sounds like your device is newer than the driver... and sometimes it means that the driver won't get associated with the device.17:38
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gabrbeddnewjor: Beyond that... i dunno.17:38
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newjori'm afraid not,since i can use this device in my fedora17:39
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newjoroh ,i know what issue is, i execute 'lsmod' on fedora and list the '17:41
newjor'gspca_zc3xx'  while i can't find this module on meego17:42
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gabrbeddnewjor: On fedora, what is the complete path to the module's .ko file?17:44
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newjor now i don't know how i can add this zc3xx.ko on meego17:47
newjor now i don't know how i can add this zc3xx.ko on meego17:47
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newjor lib/modules/2.6.35-6-45.fc14.i686/kernel/drivers/media/video/gspca17:48
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gabrbeddnewjor: You need a kernel built with CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_ZC3XX17:50
gabrbeddnewjor: If you don't even see it in the config file... then it probably means that the driver was backported to 2.6.35 by Fedora (i.e. the driver isn't really in 2.6.35).17:51
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gabrbeddnewjor: ...but it looks like it was added in 2.6.28.17:51
gabrbeddhttp://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/USB_GSPCA_ZC3XX.html17:51
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newjorgabrbedd: inside the /boot/config* , 'config_usb_gspca_z3cxx is not set'17:55
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gabrbeddnewjor: There's your answer.  To support the camera you need to build your own kernel and/or request the driver at bugs.meego.com.  Since it's a simple CONFIG_ change... it'll probably happen.17:57
gabrbeddnewjor: If your on x86... might also check out the kernel-adaptation-pinetrail to see if it has the driver enabled.17:57
gabrbeddnewjor: If that kernel isn't in zypper -- try build.meego.com17:58
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newjorgabrbedd:  request the driver at bugs.meego.com   mean   i request to get the .ko file? or ,how i build my own meego-kernel18:03
gabrbeddnewjor: On bugs.meego.com file a feature request to support the driver for MeeGo 1.1 and MeeGo 1.2.18:04
gabrbeddnewjor: Building your own kernel... have you ever done that before?  It's not rocket science... but if you've never done it before it's quite a detour.18:05
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gabrbeddnewjor: http://wiki.meego.com/Tips_on_compiling_and_packaging_kernels_in_MeeGo18:06
newjori had built linux-kernel before18:06
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newjorif i request to support the driver for meego, how much of possibity of suceess18:09
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gabrbeddnewjor: Since it's as simple as adding `CONFIG_FOO=m` to the build... I'd say pretty good.18:10
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newjorgabrbedd: ok, i know it ,thank you very much18:11
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vljhi18:35
vljwhen is meego 1.2 scheluded ? :)18:35
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gabrbeddvlj: Check the archives of meego-dev or meego-release -- I saw an announcement within the past week.18:36
w00t_http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Plans/1.218:37
vljthanks18:37
vljis Meego libc "customised" ?18:37
vljto enable support for sse3 ssse3 feature of atoms ?18:38
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gabrbeddvlj: customized -- dunno.18:38
gabrbeddvlj: compiled with SSE3 and SSSE3 enabled... yes.18:39
vljgabrbedd: but patched to have hand written sse3 code ?18:39
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gabrbeddvlj: check the soruces.  If it's patched... you'll see them listed.18:40
gabrbedds/soruces/sources/18:40
infobotgabrbedd meant: vlj: check the sources.  If it's patched... you'll see them listed.18:40
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vljit seems so18:49
vljthe memcpy sse3 version seems to be included in glibc18:50
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gabrbeddvlj: you mean the one that breaks flash ? :-p18:51
vlj?18:51
vljit broke flash ??18:51
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gabrbeddvlj: http://tabulacrypticum.wordpress.com/2011/03/28/linus-torvalds-linux-and-the-issue-of-software-quality/18:53
gabrbeddClick the link to the bug where an atom-optimized memcpy() broke flash.18:53
vljpreemptive error checking ?18:56
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vljI don't understand how memory can be corrupted using sse3 instruction :/19:02
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slonopotamusvlj: people are very creative in misusing stuff.19:08
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gabrbeddvlj: flash violated the rules of memcpy(), and when they changed the memcpy() implementation it broke flash.19:08
gabrbeddvlj: The optimization for atom was that they copied the buffers in reverse instead of forward (which sounds kinda iffie to me)19:09
slonopotamuswhat i don't unserstand is why adobe still haven't provided an update with trivial s/memcpy/memmove/ fix19:09
vljok19:10
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vljoverlapping aeras for memcpy19:11
vljis it impossible to force flash to use some version of memcpy and the system, another one ?19:11
slonopotamusit is possible to use older libc or uninstall flash19:14
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luisthey guys is there an rsync server for me ego 1.1?19:30
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gabrbeddluist: ego?19:48
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mikhasheya jbos, does explicitly setting this MInputContext work for your problems?19:53
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luistgabrbedd: uh? ego?20:34
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CosmoHillI think he meant MeeGo but made a typo20:34
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luistooh actually i made the typo :P20:35
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luistI'm looking for a rsync mirror of meego 1.120:35
luistoooh my irc client is autocorrecting me… it changed meego to me ego :P20:35
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luisti used to use this until 1.0: http://mirror.yandex.ru/mirrors/20:39
dm8tbrluist: I'd suspect the kernel.org mirrors to support this20:39
Stskeepsrsync.kernel.org20:40
luistdm8tbr: they are up to 1.0.120:40
dm8tbrI doubt that20:41
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luisthm...20:42
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CosmoHillluist: what are you after?20:43
CosmoHillif it's a MeeGo image I might have mirrored it20:43
luistCosmoHill: rsync server for meego 1.120:43
luistCosmoHill: releases n updates repositories20:44
CosmoHillah20:44
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luistok i found it20:45
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lcuk\o21:12
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berndhslcuk: He's back, unkilled by the heathen21:15
CosmoHillsalut lcuk21:16
lcukyes, and I am eating delicious cake too21:16
lcukthough I did ponder hibernating for longer to play Portal 221:16
GAN900lcuk, I had to go back to work.21:17
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lcukGAN900, that is normal.21:17
lcukin the book store?21:17
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lcukthe N900 Developer Edition21:22
lcuklooking on todays image download location:21:22
lcukhttp://repository.maemo.org/meego/n900-de/daily/1.1.99.3.20110418.11.DE.2011-04-20.2/images/21:22
lcukI see there are sanity and acceptance images21:22
lcukdoes anyone know the specific differences?21:23
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gabrbeddluist: Looks like you found it, but I use rsync://mirrors.kernel.org/meego/21:23
lbtlcuk: I'm busy atm .... l8r though ... (re SMS)21:23
lcuk\o21:23
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GAN900lcuk, yes. After Portal 2.21:37
tripz0lol21:37
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* wmarone__ steals GAN900's Weighted Companion Cube21:39
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lcukwmarone__, gan IS a weighted companion cube.21:41
* lcuk downloads sanity build21:43
lcukhttp://repository.maemo.org/meego/n900-de/daily/1.1.99.3.20110418.11.DE.2011-04-20.2/images/mg-handset-armv7nhl-n900-de-sanity/21:43
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Stskeepsauke: i could hug you for giving proper and informative announcements :)21:51
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lcukStskeeps, your conf session looks interesting21:54
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Stskeepswriting a good proposal is easy. executing it is more hard.21:56
* lcuk understands that dilemma21:56
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Stskeepsi'm quite sure they postponed 1.2 release just so i can't prepare enough in time ;p21:56
lcukheh21:57
lcukwell lots of things jumbled around21:57
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andybleadenslaine...you about there?Got a question about you and your android stuff22:36
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CosmoHilljust a quick fyi, the ovi suite, when it's full screen it's actually a bit bigger than full screen22:58
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CosmoHilllike on my main monitor it goes a bit behind the task bar and you can see part of it on the second monitor cos it's a tad too wide too22:58
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lcukCosmoHill, what os is that on?23:09
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thomasjfox~seen StephenElop23:10
infobotthomasjfox: i haven't seen 'stephenelop'23:10
lcuktimeless_w7ip, the browser and icon on n900 DE is looking good :)23:17
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lcukyour splash screen is a little disorienting at first, nicely done on actually finding a use for the startup time that is informative :)23:18
gabrbeddlcuk: Talking about FF Mobile?23:20
lcukyeah23:22
lcukI think anyway23:22
* lcuk must wait for this n900 to bootup23:22
lcukand finish dding23:22
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lcukgabrbedd, what are you hacking on atm?23:23
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gabrbeddlcuk: Which build?  MeeGo/Tablet UX.  But I add fennec to it because I like it better than chrome on a MT device.23:29
lcukgabrbedd, nice, which device are you running that on?23:29
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timeless_w7iplcuk: cool23:31
timeless_w7ippictures?23:31
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* timeless_w7ip hasn't seen any of this deployed23:32
lcuktimeless_w7ip, no, how do I take screenshots nowadays from n900 DE?23:32
lcukthe theme looks good23:32
lcuksuits the device well.23:33
wmarone__man23:33
wmarone__people are stupid as hell23:33
lcukhah23:33
wmarone__... but I state the obvious23:33
timeless_w7ipno clue.23:33
timeless_w7ipmost people i know use a second phone ;-)23:33
* wmarone__ reads more people proclaiming the death of MeeGo because Intel is porting Honeycomb to x8623:33
TSCHAKeeewmarone__: people truly are fucking idiots.23:34
wmarone__but other than that23:34
wmarone__need to port more patches from 2.6.32 to 2.6.38 tonight23:35
wmarone__18 more, then attempt to build23:35
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* lbt has "add patch weight monitoring" to his meego reporting tools23:38
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lcuklbt, I found a git stat tool that would also provide such details23:40
lcuktimeless_w7ip, what kind of stats can you get from mercurial?23:40
lbtlcuk: if meego used a VCS that'd be nice23:40
lcukas in commits per contributor etc23:40
lcuklbt, with mxr, it almost kindof sorta does23:40
lbtas it is we'll have to simply count patches in pkgs23:40
lbtlcuk: nah, I was talking to timeless_w7ip about how to take that forward - it's not quite the same23:41
lcuklbt, of course not23:41
lcukbut interesting all the same23:41
lbtwhat's better is when you take the upstream git and then add a packaging branch23:41
lbtsee dpkg-buildpackage in debian23:41
lcukyeah I have23:42
lbtgit-buildpackage I mean23:42
lcukcool23:43
gabrbeddlcuk: iiView M1touch23:43
lcukdoes that build only debian packages so far David?23:43
lcukit would be fun to have similar for other packaging formats23:43
gabrbeddlcuk: it's an x86 tablet.23:43
lcukcool gabrbedd, pics?23:44
lbtlcuk: yep - it's on my list ... the key thing is the workflow23:44
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lbtit should actually be easy to meego-ise23:44
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lbtwe can lead via DE23:44
gabrbeddlcuk: hmmmm... no, I don't have any.23:45
lcukwell DE is certainly looking rather good23:45
lcukgabrbedd, no time like the present.23:45
gabrbeddlcuk: One of those habits I should probably get in to. :-)23:45
* lcuk has an N900 to hand :)23:45
lcukso what did I actually miss whilst I was on holiday last week?23:46
gabrbeddUm, the ACM awards?23:50
lcukACM?23:50
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npmwhy are there so many builds for today in http://download.meego.com/snapshots/23:51
gabrbeddlcuk: Academy of Country Music  :-p23:51
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lcuknpm, someone pressing f5 too often :P23:55
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