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| gabrbedd | FunkyPenguin: try mxr.meego.com | 00:06 |
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| FunkyPenguin | gabrbedd, ooh thanks, thats a new resource to me | 00:06 |
| vgrade | TSCHAKeee, hi, I posted after you left I guess, I was travelling to .de today | 00:06 |
| * FunkyPenguin bookmarks | 00:06 | |
| TSCHAKeee | vgrade: ah cool ok | 00:06 |
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| vgrade | TSCHAKeee, im hear for two weeks on the day job, don;t have the joggler with me just the tegra2 tablet | 00:06 |
| vgrade | s/here/hear | 00:06 |
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| vgrade | i notice dm8tbr passed your ks on to they guy I was working with on the A9 | 00:07 |
| TSCHAKeee | i'm glad that my stuff may be useful | 00:07 |
| dm8tbr | TSCHAKeee: the original work by bubu is not usable anymore, hence your kickstart file is much appreciated | 00:08 |
| vgrade | The flickering your getting, I've seen similar on the joggler with the 1812 EMGD. I was hoping that the newer drivers would sort | 00:08 |
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| TSCHAKeee | vgrade: it literally has to do with mcompositor | 00:08 |
| vgrade | TSCHAKeee, I think that tablet is going to be a base for IVI also so they need to get driver fixed | 00:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | vgrade: because xfce's compositor does just fine | 00:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | I am running my old Orbiter UI2 code | 00:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | which does OpenGL and Compositing | 00:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | and window controlling | 00:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | and it runs like a champ | 00:09 |
| vgrade | either way I think they will fix | 00:09 |
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| TSCHAKeee | ironically, EMGD is the only other driver i know of that works properly with our UI2 orbiter | 00:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | (ATI's drivers fail miserably... I haven't tried Intel's GMAnot500 drivers in a long time) | 00:10 |
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| vgrade | TSCHAKeee, my joggler on this vid running tablet. 1812 drvers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WskpLfYci8&feature=player_embedded | 00:18 |
| vgrade | TSCHAKeee, towards the end of the vid | 00:18 |
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| CosmoHill | cyas | 02:11 |
| berndhs | good night | 02:12 |
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| timeless_w7ip | oh | 02:16 |
| * timeless_w7ip drew some SVG art for MeeGo stuff recently | 02:16 | |
| timeless_w7ip | it was fun | 02:16 |
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| gabrbedd | timeless_w7ip: tee shirt? web design? local thing? | 02:19 |
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| rustylynch | hmm..... bugzilla.meego.com is suddenly complaining about an invalid certificate | 03:16 |
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| special | rustylynch: valid here, expiration in 2012 | 03:38 |
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| rustylynch | yea, and all the people sitting around me didn't see it | 03:41 |
| rustylynch | perhaps there was a temporary fail over to another server | 03:41 |
| rustylynch | but works now | 03:42 |
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| jdloner | has support for poulsbo chipset been added | 04:03 |
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| gabrbedd | rustylynch: FWIW, That can happen if your clock is set wrong or way off. Not saying that's what happened... but it's happened to me. | 04:29 |
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| timeless_w7ip | gabrbedd: splash screen art | 09:45 |
| timeless_w7ip | hopefully it'll appear in a public repository | 09:45 |
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| timeless_w7ip | (yes, splash screens shouldn't be used, but having nothing appear for a long time is considerably worse) | 09:45 |
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| kyb3R | any news about the sf2011 approved sessions or timetable? According to conference page: "We expect to have a large subset of the presentations approved and scheduled by April 4th"? | 10:05 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, that one should actually say 8th.. | 10:05 |
| kyb3R | ah, ok | 10:06 |
| Stskeeps | the extension of the deadline moved things a bit | 10:06 |
| kyb3R | ack | 10:06 |
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| singbird | hi | 10:36 |
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| timeless_w7ip | gabrbedd: http://mxr-test.konigsberg.mozilla.org/ideapad/source/splash.jpg fwiw | 10:47 |
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| timeless_w7ip | oh, and most of what you see there is SVG, the exceptions are the fennec frames on the left/right and the two hands at the bottom | 10:54 |
| timeless_w7ip | i.e. the 4 pictures of the surfer plus the surfer icon are all vectors :) | 10:55 |
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| lorp | hi | 12:47 |
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| lorp | lbt: when I follow the instructions here: http://wiki.meego.com/Build_Infrastructure/Packagers_Developers/WebUI_part_2 | 12:48 |
| lorp | and I try to branch the bash package from MeeGo:1.0:Core | 12:49 |
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| lbt | lorp: you need a source package to branch | 12:53 |
| lbt | MeeGo:1.0:Core is a static build target... | 12:53 |
| lbt | ie a snapshot of meego back then | 12:53 |
| lbt | so you'd need to import the source somehow (grab the src rpm) and then just manage it on your own | 12:54 |
| lorp | ok... on my local machine? | 12:54 |
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| lbt | not entirely | 12:54 |
| lbt | say you want to tweak that bash | 12:55 |
| lbt | you make a home:lorp package | 12:55 |
| lbt | you grab the source on your desktop | 12:55 |
| lbt | upload it to your OBS prj/pkg | 12:55 |
| lbt | and build it against M:1.0:C | 12:55 |
| lbt | then you may add a patch and change the spec | 12:56 |
| lbt | and rebuild it | 12:56 |
| lorp | ah, ok. To upload the package do I need to do "add new package" in the web interface? | 12:58 |
| lbt | yes | 12:58 |
| lbt | hint | 12:58 |
| lbt | make a subproject too | 12:58 |
| lorp | ok | 12:58 |
| lbt | you wouldn't put a .c and makefile into $HOME .... | 12:59 |
| lorp | sure | 12:59 |
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| lorp | I thought that using "Create new package based on existing package" would branch the package for me into my local home | 12:59 |
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| lorp | but you are saying that I need to get the source myself, for example from http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/1.1.99.0.20110330.3/repos/oss/source/ ? | 13:02 |
| lorp | or from git somewhere... | 13:02 |
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| lbt | lorp: back ... but yes | 13:28 |
| lbt | you said you wanted to branch :1.0 | 13:28 |
| lbt | you can't | 13:28 |
| lbt | you can branch a Trunk package from core though | 13:28 |
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| Sage | anaZ: it seems that there are duplicated package groups/patterns: meego-ivi vs meego-ivi-x, meego-netbook vs meego-netbook-x, meego-handset vs meego-handset-x or is that intentional? | 13:52 |
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| Sage | anaZ: also should meego-handset-x be enough for handset images or does those need also meego-minimal-x or meego-base-x? | 13:56 |
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| anaZ | Sage: I am working on the patterns right now | 14:17 |
| anaZ | major overhaul | 14:17 |
| Sage | ok | 14:18 |
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| Sage | anaZ: not sure if you have seen this https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15001 | 14:18 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug 15001 nor, Undecided, ---, prajwal.karur.mohan, ASSI, "MeeGo Tablet" package group content | 14:18 |
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| Chaz6 | Hi there, I would like to request that the maintainer of the devel:enterprise repo please rebuild the freerdp package because it requires an obsolete version of libcrypto.so | 15:30 |
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| thiago | Chaz6: bugs.meego.com | 15:30 |
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| leinir | dwmw2_dad: that looks to be you... unless you're dwmw2's dad as your nick might imply... in which case, please poke your offspring ;) | 15:32 |
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| dwmw2_dad | Chaz6: rebuilt | 15:59 |
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| jnwi | If you want to start a MeeGo-related project and try to get people to sign up, is it ok to use wiki.meego.com for your own purposes? | 16:17 |
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| Chaz6 | Brilliant thanks very much :) | 16:18 |
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| andre__ | jnwi, how do you plan to use the wiki? for creating docu etc probably yes | 16:21 |
| jnwi | initially for getting people to sign up for tasks and presenting the project, then docu if we don't move somewhere else | 16:23 |
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| X-Fade | DawnFoster: ping? | 17:01 |
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| thiago | X-Fade: still a bit early here in the West Coast | 17:05 |
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| X-Fade | thiago: Yeah, I know. But you never know ;) | 17:06 |
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| DawnFoster | X-Fade: I'm here :) | 17:23 |
| DawnFoster | barely awake, but here | 17:23 |
| thiago | DawnFoster: what time do you arrive? | 17:23 |
| X-Fade | DawnFoster: The hotel reservations for conference only go from sun to thursday. But the warmup is earlier. | 17:24 |
| X-Fade | DawnFoster: so it would make more sense to extend the hotel reservation options from friday to friday or so. | 17:24 |
| X-Fade | DawnFoster: The days I wanted to enter :) | 17:24 |
| DawnFoster | looks like you can register in the Hyatt starting on Friday | 17:27 |
| X-Fade | DawnFoster: Ah, I went for the cheap option :) | 17:27 |
| DawnFoster | room blocks in hotels are a pain because if people don't use them, we still pay for them. | 17:27 |
| DawnFoster | I'm guessing that we went with the cheap option & only did one hotel for the warm up :) | 17:28 |
| X-Fade | DawnFoster: yes, but this forces me to go externally and thus you don't fill your blocks either :( | 17:28 |
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| DawnFoster | yeah, well you can probably book one of our options starting on Sunday & call the hotel to see if you can book a couple days before, too | 17:29 |
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| X-Fade | DawnFoster: Yeah, I guess. But not sure many people will do that. | 17:29 |
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| X-Fade | DawnFoster: Just wanted to let you know what I observed. I don't have a clear solution for it either. | 17:30 |
| DawnFoster | thanks for letting me know. | 17:30 |
| DawnFoster | It's always hard to find the right balance | 17:31 |
| X-Fade | I guess that a lot of people will come to do some sight seeing in the weekend. | 17:31 |
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| X-Fade | *come early | 17:32 |
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| toggles_ | and often | 17:39 |
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| thiago | DawnFoster: btw, I did bring one dark chocolate bar for you. Do you want it? | 17:41 |
| DawnFoster | thiago: ha! well, I can't turn it down now :) | 17:43 |
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| TheBootroo | hello | 18:10 |
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| TheBootroo | i've got an idea for the Unified MeeGo UX (for Handsets and Tablets) and i've done some stuff using QtCreator to show you, the forum thread i've just created is here : http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=19855#post19855 | 18:10 |
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| TheBootroo | nobody here ? | 18:12 |
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| * mikeleib` is here | 18:18 | |
| * mikeleib` reads | 18:18 | |
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| TheBootroo | mikeleib: why can't you comment | 18:27 |
| * mikeleib 's opinion is not meaningful or sanctioned | 18:29 | |
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| timeless_mbp | lbt / ericlr: i found out why bugs.meego.com isn't trusted by my browser | 18:30 |
| timeless_mbp | you guys are annoying and actually browse the web with your web browsers :) | 18:31 |
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| timeless_mbp | i don't, which means i've never visited a properly configured secure web server with a 'godaddy' intermediate CA root | 18:31 |
| timeless_mbp | but you have, so you've collected that CA into your session | 18:31 |
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| timeless_mbp | thus when I visit bugs.meego.com which is incorrectly configured and doesn't send a certificate chain, i get a cert which doesn't chain to anything i trust | 18:31 |
| timeless_mbp | but when you visit it, you get a cert which chains to godaddy which your browser has already established as trusted earlier while you were browsing | 18:32 |
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| sigma6 | TheBootroo: numbering the apps pages is a idea I would support | 18:33 |
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| TheBootroo | and the most important : the fixed dock that goes to the side of th screen when rotates ? | 18:34 |
| naofumivv | X-Fade: Could you give me the access right to build.meego.com? I would like to setup local OBS for building MeeGo distribution. My account name is "naofumivv". Thank you in advance! | 18:34 |
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| TheBootroo | because i would not like having a phone like the isux or the andro*d or winsuxphone7 with many buttons on the front so i need buttons in the ux for going to switcher, panels, menu, lock... | 18:35 |
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| TheBootroo | i like the home button in maemo 5 which avoids the need of a physical menu button | 18:36 |
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| TheBootroo | we need that in meego unified ux | 18:37 |
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| wansors | Hi guys, I just open an exoPC with meego pre-alpha 1.2 | 18:59 |
| wansors | I'm wondering how to install applications, is there any yum/apt tutorial to install some repositories? | 18:59 |
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| DawnFoster | Reminder: Meego Events meeting starts in #meego-meeting in 10 minutes. http://wiki.meego.com/Events/Meetings | 19:51 |
| thiago | since I'm here, why not | 19:52 |
| * thiago was quite confused about Amy's email yesterday about "meeting tomorrow April 4th" | 19:53 | |
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| gabrbedd | are y'all at a conference or something? | 19:54 |
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| Stskeeps | gabrbedd: nah, usually i do polish classes at this hour | 19:55 |
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| gabrbedd | Stskeeps: well, I've heard some chatter between thiago and DawnFoster that make me think they're at a conf. or something | 19:56 |
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| DawnFoster | Linux Foundation Collab Summit in SF this week | 19:56 |
| DawnFoster | I fly down later this afternoon | 19:56 |
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| DawnFoster | We have a whole MeeGo day on Thursday | 19:56 |
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| gabrbedd | DawnFoster: Cool! Thanks! | 19:57 |
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| Stskeeps | thiago, seems dirk has uploaded his votes btw | 20:35 |
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| thiago | Stskeeps: to the interface or spreadsheet? | 20:36 |
| Stskeeps | interface | 20:36 |
| * thiago prefers the spreadsheet, since he can easily re-sort | 20:37 | |
| thiago | let me see how to write a script to upload | 20:38 |
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| Stskeeps | well, guess you can make it easy by xls export (i think it includes total votes), add yours in and send the ranked list to us | 20:39 |
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| Stskeeps | ah damn, no total votes there | 20:39 |
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| timeless_mbp | in case people are wondering, i've finally spent a bit of time figuring out why mxr.meego.com/repo.meego.com/source/* doesn't work well | 20:43 |
| timeless_mbp | i should be able to fix it tomorrow | 20:43 |
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| dneary | X-Fade, Ping? | 20:48 |
| thiago | looks like each entry has a token in the webpage | 20:49 |
| thiago | I probably won't be able to make a script to upload | 20:49 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i just opeend the sorted by ID spreadsheet and clicked them | 20:50 |
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| thiago | lots of monkey work... | 20:52 |
| Stskeeps | took me ~30 min | 20:53 |
| special | also | 20:54 |
| special | ..wrong channel. | 20:55 |
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| thiago | Stskeeps: did you mean that we can't download the ranked list from the website? | 20:57 |
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| Stskeeps | seems so | 20:58 |
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| thiago | do you have your votes in a spreadsheet? | 21:00 |
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| Stskeeps | mm, only had them temporarily | 21:02 |
| Stskeeps | you can do > >= things in the session moderation though | 21:03 |
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| thiago | I'll send my votes in the interface then | 21:07 |
| thiago | later today | 21:07 |
| Stskeeps | k | 21:07 |
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| timeless_xchat | ok | 21:48 |
| timeless_xchat | mxr.meego.com/repo.meego.com/source/* should now work | 21:49 |
| timeless_xchat | if people have problems loading source files in there, please yell at me | 21:49 |
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| Stskeeps | arjan: thinking wayland re EGL_NOK_image_shared? | 21:56 |
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| Stskeeps | (in that bugfix it's just used as an indicator that 'oh, this is the nokia branch of the sgx drivers', though) | 21:58 |
| gabrbedd | Stskeeps: what /is/ it? | 22:00 |
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| gabrbedd | Erm... nevermind. | 22:01 |
| gabrbedd | :-) | 22:01 |
| Stskeeps | gabrbedd: https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qt/merge_requests/663 gives a fair bit of a clue | 22:01 |
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| gabrbedd | Stskeeps: thanks | 22:04 |
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| thiago | sharing of images is extremely important for performance | 22:07 |
| thiago | and for scene graph | 22:07 |
| lbt | For discussion in #meego-bar : http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/news/telecom/Nokias-open-letter-to-developers/articleshow/7873434.cms "You will hear more from us on MeeGo in coming months. " | 22:07 |
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| timeless_xchat | hi gabrbedd | 22:09 |
| gabrbedd | timeless_xchat: Howdy | 22:12 |
| gabrbedd | timeless_xchat: Didja see that I pointed someone to MXR yesterday? :-) | 22:14 |
| timeless_xchat | i probably missed it, but thanks :) | 22:19 |
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| timeless_xchat | mxr should be a bit better now | 22:19 |
| timeless_xchat | i'm improving it every couple of days | 22:20 |
| timeless_xchat | i have one minor performance fix live | 22:20 |
| timeless_xchat | and a feature written on a second mxr which i'll probably add tomorrow | 22:20 |
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| mikhas_ | heya rustylynch - is the image in bug 15245 an official one? | 22:25 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15245 nor, Undecided, ---, x2rich, NEW, meego-im-uiserver segfault on request to show input method | 22:25 |
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| rustylynch | mikhas... define official? | 22:27 |
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| mikhas_ | well, is that the image used for tablet UX? | 22:27 |
| mikhas_ | or a custom build? | 22:27 |
| * mikhas_ hasn't looked into tablet UX yet | 22:28 | |
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| mikhas_ | well, I did ... once maybe ;-) | 22:28 |
| rustylynch | this specific image hasn't been published yet since it hasn't passed basic acceptance testing (of which this bug blocks), but you can install a daily image and get the same results | 22:28 |
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| mikhas_ | right, perhaps you should clarify that on the bug then | 22:28 |
| rustylynch | ok | 22:29 |
| mikhas_ | I am reluctant to provide a workaround here, but given that Qt releases are probably very rare in MeeGo land I see no real choice | 22:29 |
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| rustylynch | mikhas_: i'm nervous that we hit this because we are in a fundamentally screwed up state, and a work around will just expose the next hole in the dam | 22:33 |
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| mikhas_ | rustylynch, are you willing to help with testing? | 22:34 |
| rustylynch | yes | 22:34 |
| mikhas_ | I could cook up a workaround in 2h or so | 22:34 |
| mikhas_ | maybe less time | 22:34 |
| rustylynch | ok | 22:34 |
| mikhas_ | (not familiar with the code, but kinda see the issue at hand) | 22:35 |
| rustylynch | i'm going to dart off to grab some food before the cafe closes... but will be back | 22:35 |
| mikhas_ | ok, cool | 22:35 |
| mikhas_ | (I am equally nervous) | 22:35 |
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| mikhas_ | we could also disable the whole reactionmap feature ... it's a configure flag for the virtual keyboard | 22:46 |
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| Ans5i | arjan: they have own channel somewhere afaik. | 23:26 |
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| rustylynch | mikhas_: i don't even think that reactionmaps does anything in meego | 23:31 |
| rustylynch | unless something happened since i last looked at it, you needed some kind of proprietary backend | 23:32 |
| npm | rpm -qa | wc -l ==> 1337 | 23:32 |
| npm | my system is trying to tell me something | 23:32 |
| npm | :-) | 23:32 |
| mikhas_ | rustylynch, yeah, expected as much ... | 23:33 |
| mikhas_ | rustylynch, anyhow - uploaded patch | 23:33 |
| rustylynch | if cutting off that rotting appendage works around this crasher... they i say do it :-> | 23:33 |
| rustylynch | your home obs project? or the bug report? | 23:34 |
| npm | see PS: to http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-dev/2011-April/482503.html re "1337" packages :-) | 23:34 |
| mikhas_ | have no home obs yet | 23:34 |
| mikhas_ | only uploaded patch to bug report, sorry | 23:34 |
| rustylynch | ok | 23:34 |
| mikhas_ | rustylynch, the reaction maps are actually a nice feature - the response time is amazing | 23:34 |
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| mikhas_ | will prepare alternate patch to disable it for meego-keyboard | 23:35 |
| mikhas_ | it's more fail-safe | 23:35 |
| mikhas_ | but yeah, rotting in the sense of "useless right now" - noted | 23:36 |
| mikhas_ | I will bring that issue forward | 23:36 |
| mikhas_ | if you already know of a bug report regarding that .. ;-) | 23:36 |
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| rustylynch | you only uploaded a patch to the changelog, which would be a neat trick if it fixes the bug | 23:36 |
| mikhas_ | did I? | 23:36 |
| mikhas_ | damn | 23:37 |
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| mikhas_ | rustylynch, https://bugs.meego.com/attachment.cgi?id=5311 looks legit to me? | 23:37 |
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| mikhas_ | I separated changelog from patch .. habits | 23:37 |
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| mikhas_ | rustylynch, you were using meego-keyboard 0.5.32? | 23:38 |
| * rustylynch looks | 23:38 | |
| rustylynch | yea | 23:39 |
| mikhas_ | ok, thanks | 23:39 |
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| rustylynch | mikhas_: which package is this for? | 23:46 |
| rustylynch | nevermind.. i see it in the changelog | 23:46 |
| mikhas_ | ah right, sorry | 23:46 |
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| rustylynch | actually... i guess the debian name doesn't match | 23:47 |
| rustylynch | is this for meegotouch-feedbackreactionmaps? | 23:48 |
| mikhas_ | not entirely, no | 23:48 |
| mikhas_ | that is the repo name at gitorios, so yes | 23:48 |
| mikhas_ | *gitorious, even | 23:48 |
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| rustylynch | that's the only package installed on the system with the name *reactionmaps* | 23:49 |
| rustylynch | so i'm guessing i'm working on the correct package | 23:49 |
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| mikhas_ | rustylynch, I guessed the version number from bug 13768 | 23:50 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13768 nor, Undecided, ---, miroslav.safr, VERI FIXED, Update meegotouch-feedback (0.10.6) and meegotouch-feedbackreactionmaps (0.14.1.8) | 23:50 |
| mikhas_ | package name is indeed meegotouch-feedbackreactionmaps | 23:50 |
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| rustylynch | looks like a bunch of stuff on the server is building... waiting for a new meetotouch-feedback-devel and others | 23:51 |
| mikhas_ | hm | 23:52 |
| rustylynch | shouldn't be too long | 23:52 |
| * mikhas_ continues with axing reactionmaps from meego-keyboard | 23:52 | |
| mikhas_ | gah, dont have the spec file in the repo itself | 23:53 |
| mikhas_ | only the debian packaging stuff | 23:53 |
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