IRC log of #meego for Monday, 2011-04-04

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* CosmoHill wonders how accurate the family guy "To Love and Die in Dixie" episode is 00:34
* timeless_w7ip frowns00:37
timeless_w7ipanyone from meego it here/awake?00:37
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CosmoHillI'm not to sure I count00:37
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timeless_w7ipmxr.meego.com seems down00:38
timeless_w7ipi'm wondering if it's a more systemic problem00:38
CosmoHillhas a bug been submitted00:38
timeless_w7ipi'm wondering that00:39
berndhsjust mxr.meego.com, not repo.. or bugs... or any others from here00:40
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GeneralAntillesCosmoHill: not even vaguely.00:40
GeneralAntillesCosmoHill: Family Guy shouldn't be taken as an accurate anything.00:41
GeneralAntillesWell, except, perhaps, an accurate portrayal of how New England Democrats thing.00:41
CosmoHillyou mean Adam West?00:41
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timeless_w7ipanyone remember where such it bugs belong?00:41
GeneralAntillesI mean Seth MacFarlane and the rest of the writers are all raving statists. ;)00:42
GeneralAntilless/thing/think/00:42
CosmoHillI saw the 100th episode special where it had actual people in it00:42
CosmoHillseems like a right bell end00:43
berndhstimeless_w7ip: other than where the link says ? http://bugs.meego.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=MeeGo%20Community%20Infrastructure00:43
timeless_w7ipberndhs: filing a bug against myself doesn't do me much good :)00:44
berndhsi dont know what the issue is, says 502 from here00:44
timeless_w7ipthe server isn't reachable internally00:45
berndhsbad address, bad router, typo in some script,...00:46
CosmoHilllast time I looked at MXR it told me about the benefits of Internet Explorer 800:46
timeless_w7ipcosmohill: eh?!00:46
CosmoHillsomeone with DNS access wasn't happy about the MS and Nokia deal00:47
timeless_w7ipoh00:47
GeneralAntillesWee, guess I wont be sitting in on any live TSG meetings for a while.00:47
timeless_w7ipyou haven't used mxr in a while00:47
timeless_w7ipit's been running @osu hosting for over a month i think00:48
timeless_w7iphttp://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:7pTSTq_2AAwJ:mxr.meego.com/+site:mxr.meego.com&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=firefox-a&source=www.google.com00:48
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timeless_w7ipyou can more or less browse everything via google :)00:48
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CosmoHilldo you guys remember the picture of my phone with the top row of keys missing00:51
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smokuError: For non-Fedora and non-MeeGo systems, run mode must be 101:14
smokuany idea why mic2 does not like --run-mode=0 anymore?01:14
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lbttimeless_w7ip: mxr is back ... it had a config file change that clearly hadn't been reboot-tested ... no network.01:33
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* CosmoHill notices that he's slowly migrating from mac to windows01:49
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lbtCosmoHill: I thought you were a linux guy01:53
CosmoHillat least you got my gender right01:54
CosmoHillsomeone thought I was a lesbian yesterday01:54
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lbtwindows user..... close01:55
CosmoHillone of the  ops in LFS works for MS01:55
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yourselfWhat is stopping my N97 mini from running MeeGo?01:57
lbtreality01:57
CosmoHill(lack of) developers01:57
w00t_i'd go with lbt's answer01:57
GeneralAntillesMore specifically, your bootloader.01:58
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CosmoHilldevelopers not being part of reality?01:58
GeneralAntillesBesides the fact that it doesn't have a GPU, does it?01:58
w00t_if it does, it's very very weak01:58
w00t_I don't remember01:58
GeneralAntillesIt's a 434MHz ARM11, I doubt it.01:59
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TSCHAKeeeyikes02:00
TSCHAKeeeand yeah, memory is paltry too02:00
TSCHAKeeeso there's your answer, besides the bootloader and everything else02:00
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yourselfHmm02:02
yourselfSymbian is no fun02:02
yourselfAnd Maemo on the N900 is all I want really... Even know Meego probaby seamlessly works02:02
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yourselfAhh, it can import contacts02:10
yourselfCan other Nokia phones do this?02:10
lbtaren't you bored yet?02:11
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yourselfBored with?02:17
yourselfI managed to import contacts, I got 5302:17
yourselfMost of them empty contacts02:17
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yourselfI am in the wrong channel02:20
lbtwhich explains why you sound like a troll :)02:21
lbtsorry then.02:21
yourselflbt: I am sorry, I thougth I was in #maemo. It is usually accepted to ask N900 questions there.02:21
lbt.... it's late I'm grumpy .... good luck getting it sorted02:22
ali1234symbian can import contacts... but not from n90002:23
yourselfali1234: N900 can export them, but I just got a bunch of IM contacts, some empty ones, and a few that worked02:24
ali1234actually nearly all phones can do it using bluetooth pim sync which is what symbian does02:24
ali1234but n900 doesn't support this02:25
ali1234at least it didn't when i first got the n900, which was a long time ago02:25
ali1234but hey, when it's brand new is when you need it right? no point adding contact sync 6 months after everyone already did it manually...02:26
yourselfI am planning on getting by with my phone needs with a N97 Mini and a Nokia N900.02:27
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berndhsmy neighbors are within 1/4 mile, if I yell real loud my basic phone needs are met02:31
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CosmoHillwho talks to their neighbours theses days02:32
berndhswell, in emergencies one might02:32
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CosmoHillhehe02:33
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CosmoHillbad time to find out that they don't like you02:33
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berndhsoh joy, it's snowing03:29
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iekkumorning06:19
RST38hWell. Moo.06:19
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thiagoDawnFoster: ping06:46
thiagoDawnFoster: when do you arrive in SF?06:46
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DawnFosterthiago: I arrive on Tuesday evening and leave Friday morning.06:58
DawnFosteryou?06:58
thiagoalready here06:58
thiagoleave Friday evening06:58
DawnFosterthiago: cool - I'll probably see you Wed morning at the summit?07:00
thiagodefinitely07:01
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hyogihello07:56
hyoginice to meet you07:56
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Stskeepzgood morning07:58
hyogigood morning07:58
kyb3Rmorning07:58
hyogiin fact, good afternoon07:58
kyb3R:)07:58
hyogihere is korea07:58
hyogi:)07:58
Stskeepz7am here in denmark, so just waking up to a new day07:59
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kyb3Raround 8am, Finland07:59
hyogioh.. :)07:59
kyb3Rslurping coffee07:59
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Stskeepzso what brings you here, hyogi?08:00
hhurttammmmm, coffee08:00
hyogii'm in LGE08:00
hyogiin charge of Image creation08:00
Stskeepzah, good to see more people from your company here :)08:00
hyogithank you :)08:01
hyogimy english is not good..08:01
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hyogiTT08:01
Stskeepzit works08:01
hyogiplz understand08:01
hyogii want to build for armv7hl in my local OBS08:02
kyb3Rhyogi: you are doing fine :)08:02
hyogithank you so much :)08:02
hyogiso i saw some patch08:02
hyogihttp://old.nabble.com/-Patch--RFC--armv7hl-scheduler-support-p30690935.html08:02
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hyogihere08:03
hyogisome directory and filename is a little different..08:03
hyogibut, i found similar files and applied this patch manually08:05
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hyogiso, i can see armv7hl build option.08:06
Stskeepzhyogi: latest mic git should support armv7hl fine, just need --run-mode=108:07
Stskeepzyou can ask in #meego-arm about these questions, most people are in there08:07
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hyogii'm talking about src.rpm build for armv7hl.08:08
hyogioh. meego-arm08:08
hyogithank you very much!!08:08
Stskeepzahh.. OBS?08:08
hyogi:)08:08
hyogiyes08:08
hyogiOBS08:08
Stskeepzah, just enable armv8el scheduler name insteadd08:08
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Stskeepzthat is what we usde08:09
Stskeepzuse08:09
hyogifor armv7hl?08:09
Stskeepzyes08:09
hyogithank you i'll try this08:09
Stskeepzscheduler names doesnt mean anything really in practice, is just how to seperate binaries08:10
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hyogifrankly, i'm a beginner.... TT08:13
Stskeepzhehe, we all start as amateurs :)08:14
hyogii have to study a lot of thing..08:14
TSCHAKeeeis armv7hl armv7 with hardware floating point?08:14
StskeepzTSCHAKeee: float-abi=hard08:14
TSCHAKeeegoootcha08:14
hyogithen i'll ask you question :)08:14
hyogisee you08:15
TSCHAKeeeo_O08:15
Stskeepzgood luck :)08:15
StskeepzTSCHAKeee: massive perf improvement as we dont have to pass float values in int registers08:15
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StskeepzTSCHAKeee: when calling procedures08:16
TSCHAKeeeyup i understand08:16
dm8tbrmassive 5% or do we have really more?08:16
TSCHAKeeeand armv8?08:16
StskeepzTSCHAKeee: just a name08:16
TSCHAKeeeohhkay08:16
Stskeepzdm8tbr: it's definately felt08:16
TSCHAKeee;)08:17
* TSCHAKeee considers selling his Archos9 towards an eXoPC08:17
dm8tbrTSCHAKeee: buy an archos101!08:17
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TSCHAKeeedm8tbr: i need a fast pinetrail tablet to do tablet UX research on08:18
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TSCHAKeeeand the Archos 9 GMA500 and mcompositor DO NOT GET ALONG.08:18
TSCHAKeeewhich is driving me batty08:18
dm8tbryes a9 is SGX08:18
StskeepzTSCHAKeee: i still find that a bit weird, need to try it on my joggler08:18
TSCHAKeeeone sec08:19
Stskeepzdm8tbr: but anyway the armv7hl stuff is also inventive cos we have rpm subarchs and so on :P08:19
TSCHAKeeeoh yeah, i need to get vgrade the ks08:19
TSCHAKeeeStskeepz: yes, please try08:19
TSCHAKeeepleeeease08:19
TSCHAKeeemy soul got crushed after all that work of trying to get tablet UX to run08:19
TSCHAKeeeonly to see the screen FLICKER LIKE MAD any time an app came on screen08:20
TSCHAKeeeflicker btw image and black08:20
StskeepzTSCHAKeee: mtf or qml?08:20
TSCHAKeeeboth it seems... and xterm was bleeding through08:20
TSCHAKeeexterm would show up invisible08:20
TSCHAKeeeuntil i started typing08:20
TSCHAKeeeand then you would see a trail of white text08:20
TSCHAKeeei'm guessing massive openGL context snafus08:21
dm8tbrTSCHAKeee: you're not coming to the MeeGoFI summit by chance?08:21
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TSCHAKeeedm8tbr: depends on how badly Uncle Sam decides to ass rape me. ;)08:21
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StskeepzTSCHAKeee: flickering happened on n900 too btw08:22
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TSCHAKeeeyeah i remember08:22
TSCHAKeeebut this was bad, completely unusable08:23
TSCHAKeeeand I _KNOW_ ....08:23
TSCHAKeeethat the GMA500 can handle openGL and compositing08:23
TSCHAKeeebecause our UI2 Orbiter ran on it, completely08:23
TSCHAKeeeStskeepz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoNdwD9mMHk <-- using our orbiter, with XFCE4 as window and compositing manager08:24
hyogisorry Stskeepz....08:24
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hyogii made OBS system in my local PC08:25
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hyogibut i can't find armv8el build target option in Repository menu08:25
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hyogieventually, same question... TT08:27
Stskeepzhyogi: need to enable it in /etc/sysconfig/obs-server08:27
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hyogihow can i apply armv7hl scheduler?08:27
hyogior.. where can i find some guide about this problem...?08:28
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hyogiok08:29
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TSCHAKeeevgrade: http://tschak.homelinux.com/tablet-archos9.ks <-- for you to test tablet UX on the archos9.. hopefully you'll see what I mean08:31
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Stskeepzhyogi: find where it says i586 armv7el and add armv8el08:55
hyogiyes i added armv8el08:57
Stskeepzand restart obs08:57
hyogiok08:58
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hyogibut i think i have to modify some file for webui08:58
hyogia kind of /srv/www/obs/webui/config/options.yml08:58
Stskeepzthere and meta prj, possibly08:59
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hyogivisible_architectures: [ "i586", "x86...... and add "armv8el ]09:00
hyogiah..09:00
hyogii need more study..09:01
dm8tbrTSCHAKeee: I've forwarded the URL to Bubu, he did the previous work on the a9, I guess he'll be interested to try it09:01
hyogi:}09:01
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hyogii'll try everything for armv7hl then tell you09:02
hyogithank you Stskeepz :)09:02
hyogiah.. i'm a igo's best friend09:02
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vgradehyogi. morning09:12
vgradeTSCHakeee im onmy travels withoutmy joggler. willbebackin 2 weeks. sry09:14
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hyogivgrade good morning :)09:31
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Venemo_N900good morning meegoists!09:50
jnwiGood morning to you too!09:51
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Venemo_N900I'm thinking about what I should code for the coding competition09:52
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saidinesh5pohly: == patrick right? ping10:39
pohlysaidinesh5: right. Hello Said.10:39
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saidinesh5Hi Patrick10:39
saidinesh5basically, the patches i sent you.. i had to leave out10:40
saidinesh5certain commits10:40
saidinesh5which were because of a git merge that i have commited10:40
saidinesh5so basically i took all the patches i sent you, I have applied to the main syncevolution's akonadi branch and rebased it10:40
saidinesh5and fixed the merge conflicts and thats what the log is from10:41
saidinesh5i mean git log10:41
pohlySo the latest code is http://meego.gitorious.org/~saidinesh5/meego-middleware/saidinesh5-syncevolution/commits/akonadi ?10:42
pohlyAnd that is what you want to have merged?10:43
saidinesh5yes, but it contains some git merges in between10:43
lbtmorning all10:43
saidinesh5which you probably don't want10:43
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pohlyRight.10:43
pohlyWhat I would prefer is that branch a) rebased onto current master b) cleaned up.10:43
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saidinesh5although i have a completely rebased akonadi branch with the latest patches with me, without the merges10:44
saidinesh5(thats what i sent to you in the git log)10:44
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pohlyI can't merge a git log ;-)10:44
saidinesh5noo i mean if you look at the patches and confirm them, i can send individal commits' patches10:44
pohlyThat second branch seems much more useful for merging. Please push it under a different name - "akonadi-merge"?10:44
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pohlyLet's use gitorious instead of sending via the mailing list.10:45
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pohlyI can pull and cherry-pick.10:45
saidinesh5ohh okay, i guess that should do10:45
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saidinesh5basically you might have some merge conflicts, which mostly are trivial to resolve10:46
saidinesh5especially when rebasing...10:46
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pohlysaidinesh5: such a rebased would have any conflicts once I get to see it. You would have to resolve these conflicts while rebasing.11:04
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saidinesh5oh well basically I have resolved the merge conflicts11:10
saidinesh5and11:10
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saidinesh5and the "akonadi-merge" branch11:10
saidinesh5is reabsed to current master11:10
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saidinesh5just a moment lemme push out these changes11:12
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Stskeepsthiago: ping11:36
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saidinesh5pohly: Done ... my net seems to be bad, so cloning it and checking it out seems to take time11:56
saidinesh5akonadi-merge branch11:56
saidinesh5in my gitorious clone11:56
pohlysaidinesh5: thanks - will look as soon as possible.11:56
saidinesh5sure :)11:57
saidinesh5btw. what is the timeline for 1.2?11:57
pohlyI'd like to release a feature-complete 1.1.99.4 this or next week, then start stabilizing it. Not sure yet how realistic that is.11:58
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saidinesh5hmm..... feature complete includes akonadi branch too?11:59
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andreizrohey all. Anybody else has problems connecting to build.meego.com ?12:16
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Termanamorning12:18
lbtandreizro: unannounced outage12:19
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andreizrolbt: thanks. Any idea how long it will take?12:23
lbtandreizro: well the official communication is ""12:24
* lbt tries really hard to refrain from adding "as usual" and fails12:24
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andreizro:) thanks12:25
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TermanaWelcome back everyone :p12:56
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amjadhello13:07
amjadany one alive here13:07
bunkno13:08
dm8tbryes, the other 480 people here are all dead13:08
dm8tbrwe just don't know yet13:09
amjad:)13:09
iekku:o13:09
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amjadso now meego got smart tv working group :)13:12
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mikhas_I know it's a bit too early to ask, but when will MeeGo 1.3 go into feature freeze? after SF conference?13:44
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lbthttp://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Release_Timeline13:46
jukkaeklundso planning phase ended just..13:47
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jukkaeklundlooks like Core is at least populated and some SDK also: https://bugs.meego.com/report.cgi?x_axis_field=product&y_axis_field=component&z_axis_field=&query_format=report-table&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&classification=MeeGo+Features&version=1.3&longdesc_type=allwordssubstr&longdesc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&deadlinefrom=&deadlineto=&emailassigned_to1=1&emailty13:49
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achipaanybody familiar with the state of backup in 1.2 ?14:55
achipa(i.e. th B... thingy that was talked about at the conference)14:56
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jay4hello is anyone running apache php on meego ? can anyone help?15:18
jay4i have meego 1.1 on netbook15:18
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jay4any other web server?15:22
jay4any one?15:22
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jay4ok bye15:24
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thiagoStskeeps: pong15:27
Stskeepsthiago: nm, sent it on mail instead15:28
Stskeeps(re cfp page's dates)15:28
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timeless_w7iplbt / x-fade : ping15:30
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* timeless_w7ip can't reach bugs.meego.com from here15:30
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ericlrtimeless_w7ip: hmm, are you sure?15:31
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timeless_w7ipyes15:34
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timeless_w7ipericlr: are you using firefox?15:35
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timeless_w7ipif so, load about:config and toggle security.OCSP.require15:36
timeless_w7ipthen try loading bugs.meego.com15:36
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lbttimeless_w7ip: file a security bug with Ryan/Pierce15:40
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lbtcc me15:40
* timeless_w7ip grumbles15:41
lbtand adam and mike shaver and max and stefano15:41
lbtand niels15:41
* timeless_w7ip wants someone to confirm that it's broken15:41
timeless_w7ip(for this definition of broken)15:41
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timeless_w7ipi'll file it if someone confirms the failure15:41
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lbttimeless_w7ip: WFM15:43
lbtdoes security.OCSP.require need a browser reboot15:44
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dm8tbrtimeless_w7ip: I had problems with wget today complaining, broke my mozbot ( MeeGoBot )15:46
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timeless_w7iplbt: i suspect it does15:49
dm8tbrcan't reproduce on a Fx4 in either state of OCSP.require, restarted it too15:50
timeless_w7ipbut i really don't know :(15:50
timeless_w7ipdm8tbr: ok15:50
timeless_w7ipit's possible the server was temporarily down15:50
timeless_w7ipgood to hear that the network infrastructure was generally down instead of just for my services :)15:50
lbthttp://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.security/browse_thread/thread/9f51be376f874d5015:51
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lbtexplains why OCSP is defaulted to off15:51
lbtit's dumb15:51
arobsessive compulsive service processor?15:53
aroh, you're not talking about nagios, are you?15:53
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timeless_w7ipar: i'm also complaining about nagios15:55
timeless_w7ipafaict nagios didn't notify anyone that mxr was unhappy for a bunch of days15:55
timeless_w7ipbut no, we're complaining about CAs sucking in another way15:55
lbtnagios is .... not quite there yet15:56
timeless_w7iplbt: ... is not quite at the point of usefully nagging about meego services?15:57
timeless_w7ipor to the point of sucking in some more generic way? :)15:57
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lbtnagios per se sucks in many ways16:00
lbtour deployment does too16:01
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smokuX-Fade, do you know what is the issue with supporting building MeeGo images on openSUSE 11.4 ?16:42
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lbttimeless_w7ip: nagios is on my todo list17:09
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ScriptRipperping fabo17:49
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TomaszDdoes anyone know if it's possible to resize a compressed btrfs volume?17:49
TomaszDI'm having terrible issues trying to resize it17:49
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lorphi lbt17:55
lorpcould you please enable my account to get access to the obs system?17:56
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lbtlorp: OK - this is for opensource apps? in the community OBS?17:58
lbtaccount?17:58
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dnearyhi18:00
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dnearyAnyone know if the plain-text IRC logs on mg.pov.lt are linked anywhere?18:00
lorplorenzopolidori18:00
dnearyI can only find links to the HTML logs18:00
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lorpthat's for open source yes18:01
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dnearylbt, Can I confirm a half-day OBS tutorial for you, please? I'm thinking of putting you on Saturday afternoon, but I could do Sunday morning18:02
dnearySunday morning you'll be opposite a "getting started with MeeGo SDK"18:02
dnearytutorial18:02
lorplbt, actually I would like to play with modifying and debugging some middleware packages, specifically the audio manager. Is the community OBS ok for that?18:04
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slaineSo is the 1.2 tablet developer release nolonger supported on the Lenovo S10-t3's ?18:06
gabrbeddslaine: Why do you ask?18:07
gabrbeddi.e. what isn't working?18:07
slaineSupported hardware lists only the ExoPC18:07
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Stskeepsslaine: worked for me18:09
slainemeego touch guidelines also talk about 1366x768 resolutions (those ideapads are 1024x600)18:09
slaineStskeeps:18:09
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slainecool, I'll check it out later I guess18:09
gabrbeddslaine: Well, the broacom wifi has never been supported... so I'm not sure how it could ever be on the list.18:09
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slainetrue18:09
gabrbeddslaine: BTW, did you get the driver working with 2.6.37?18:09
slaineI did, but I didn't want to post details as it involved lying to the kernel and claiming the broadcom driver was a GPL driver18:09
slaineHaven't tried again with any of the later kernel releases18:09
slaineI'll rephrase that18:11
slaineI haven't tried again with any of the later 1.2 pre-releases18:11
slaine(very tired)18:11
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Stskeepsslaine: supposedly the wlan stuff works in later kernels18:11
slaineIt's working for my dell mini 9 on Fedora 15 Alpha + updates18:11
gabrbeddslaine: Tired?  You just got back from vacation!  :-p18:11
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slainegabrbedd: if only that was true, i'd a week off work, but it wasn't a fun week (granmother died)18:12
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gabrbeddslaine: Ah, I'm very sorry, then.18:12
slainegabrbedd: no worries, I haven't really mentioned it, you wheren't to know18:12
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gabrbeddslaine: Well yes, but I'm also sorry that you lost your grandmother.  You have my sympathy.18:13
slainegabrbedd: ah right, sorry, mis-parsed. Thanks man18:13
gabrbeddslaine: Back to the driver... was it really just the Lockdep RCU that was blocking?18:14
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slainegabrbedd: yeah, worked fine for me after I changed 3 things18:14
slaine1 and 2 being the lock realted changes needed and 3 being the license18:14
slaineI was disappointed in the lack of progression of the netbook ux then and didn't keep it around18:15
gabrbeddslaine: Yeah, 1.1.90 has been rough all around IMHO.18:16
gabrbeddBTW, I have the "GPL Lie" patch in my own private wl-mod package, too.18:16
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slaine2.6.38 seems to have better b43 modules and firmware support, assuming F15 Alpha is using that and it wasn't something I did noodling around (like copying on firmwares)18:18
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slaineIronically, I was one of the few that got an ideapad with the Atheros WiFi18:19
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gabrbeddslaine: thank you!18:24
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slainegabrbedd: is the GPL Lie patch still needed in the latest 1.1.9x builds ?18:26
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gabrbeddslaine: I dunno, I use a custom kernel and started doing more work on a different device.  So I'm not sure how the main meego kernel is configured ATM.18:26
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slaineI'll give it a blast later in the week18:26
slainesee if I can get a 1.2 page up and ready for the release18:26
slaineI'd rather not have to detail lying to the kernel18:26
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gabrbeddslaine: Please _don't_ detail lying to the kernel.  :-)  I've taken the same policy... only vaguely hinting in public that it has to be done, but now how.18:30
slaine:nod:18:30
gabrbeddslaine: However, I think when the 1.2 kernel goes stable, they usually remove lockdep RCU18:31
gabrbeddAt least, that's what they've done in the past.18:31
slaineIt should be stable now. I'll find out soon I guess :)18:31
gabrbedd:-)18:31
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slainedneary: Has the TSG lineup changed ?18:49
slaineOr DawnFoster for that matter ?18:49
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slaineNot has DawnFoster changed, lol18:49
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lbtlorp: yes - as long as it's open source it's fine18:50
lbtdneary: sat pm is good18:50
gabrbeddslaine: At last TSG meeting the issue was skirted, but seemed to be affirmative that Imad was it and that Nokia would be nominating a replacement for Valhalla18:51
lorplbt: thanks. When will my account be ready to use the OBS?18:52
lbtlooks like it was already there18:52
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lorpreally? I tried to login on build.pub.meego.com but I got a login failure18:53
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lorpis the OBS password the same as the meego.com one?18:54
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lorplbt: tried again, I can login on meego.com but I can't on build.pub.meego.com18:59
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lbtok ... sec19:02
lbttry now19:03
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lbtlorp: ?19:06
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lbtlorp...19:06
lbtI'm kinda busy ....19:06
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lorpsorry, tried again, but it still doesn't work19:08
lorpI am using the same username/password as for meego.com19:08
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lbtlorp: when did you last change your meego.com passwd19:25
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lorptoday, I forgot the old one....19:40
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lbtok looks like pw sync broke19:43
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rainistoI just hate this rpm .spec files, still havent seen a good tutorial for meego, life was so much easier in debian world.19:54
amjadi like rpm , cuz i was in fedora/centos world all my life19:54
Stskeepsi converted from debian using spectacle, nowadays i actually prefer yaml + spec19:54
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slonopotamusrainisto: they both look a complete mess compared to ebuild format :)19:57
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rainistowell Im trying to figure out easy way to make rpm package out of my qtquick project, and just banging head to the wall19:59
lbtrainisto: spec is easy to write and impossible to read :)19:59
gabrbeddrainisto: I converted from deb to rpm for MeeGo, and now I prefer RPM.  Feature #1 -- no .diff.gz BS.19:59
gabrbeddpatching is built in.19:59
lbtanything goes and you can throw shell in there if you feel like it19:59
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lbtit's kinda like perl.... the only thing that can parse .spec is ....20:00
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rainistowell yes, it has good features, but working .spec file is pain to write, ie everything works fine in qt creator, qmake; make and I can run the binary, but now that Im trying to make .spec and .rpm it just fails :)20:00
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rainistoie tar.gz and create .spec and then trying to locally build with sudo build and ends up in failure after failure20:02
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gabrbeddrainisto: And the error message is.... ??20:02
lbtStskeeps: one thing I'd like about yaml is that it's parsable..... but of course that's optional20:02
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lorpollbt: when do you think I can use the OBS system with my new password?20:02
lbtlorpol: writing a new import now20:02
gabrbeddlorpol: When your old password stops working is my guess.20:02
rainistogabrdedd, well if unpacks .tar.gz in wrong places etc and fails :)20:03
gabrbedd:-)20:03
lorpolok thanks20:03
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gabrbeddrainisto: When you unpack the tar... what's the folder name that the tarfile gives?20:04
gabrbeddrpmbuild is expecting it to be ${name}-${version}/20:04
rainistoah, that might be the reason then20:05
gabrbeddIf it's different, then you have to override what the build folder name is.20:06
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lbtsudo build?20:08
lbtyou shouldn't be doing that20:08
gabrbeddlbt: eh.  one thing at a time. :-)20:09
lbtmmm20:09
lbtthat's the first thing :)20:09
* lbt things developers should have their paycheques routed through their code somehow...20:10
lbts/g/k/20:10
infobotlbt meant: that's the first think :)20:10
lbtno, not really infobot20:10
wmarone-n900infobot++20:10
gabrbeddhahaha :-)20:10
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rainistolbt: well http://wiki.meego.com/SDK/Docs/1.0/Packaging/Tutorial   is saying sudo build in instructions :)20:12
lbtyeah ... isn't SDK by/for windows users .... ?20:12
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lbtbut thanks... that is, IMHO, a bug20:13
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lbtgabrbedd: am I right here? sudo build is just wrong?20:14
gabrbeddlbt: rainisto I can't be sure... but I think that has to do with building packages in a clean chroot.20:14
gabrbedddoes build == rpmbuild ??20:14
* gabrbedd never used `build`20:14
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lbtbuild is the script used by the obs... I thought it was rpmbuild20:14
* lbt will double check20:15
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gabrbeddi dunno... anyway, rainisto -- what you want to do is put your sources in ~/rpmbuild/SOURCES and your specs in ~/rpmbuild/SPECS20:15
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rainistosudo build --repository http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/1.1.90.8.20110322.2/repos/oss/ia32/packages/ --arch i686 foobar.spec   was what I was using to build outside chroot or obs, now it upacks and run qmake make just fine20:16
gabrbeddrainisto: Then `rpmbuild -ba ~/rpmbuild/SPECS/myfoo.spec`20:16
gabrbeddNo need to sudo or root or anything.20:16
gabrbeddNo need for fakeroot, either.20:16
TSCHAKeeevgrade: dunno if you saw, but i posted a link to my archos9 tablet ks20:16
lbtmmm I think I'm wrong .... if that's the OBS build then it invokes su - abuild20:16
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lbtand it needs root to make chroots (and more).... I didn't realise it was supposed to be invoked as part of a normal workflow.20:19
rainistogabrdedd: rpmbuild just fails, I think that I need that sudo build, since buildmachine is x64, and Im targeting ia32,20:19
gabrbeddlbt: FWIW, when I'm working in my chroot, I have to build packages as root also.20:19
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rainistoanyways sudo build almost succeeds, if fails on make install with mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/share': Permission denied20:20
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gabrbeddbut inside a device or a virtual environment (e.g. qemu) you can build as a normal user.20:21
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gabrbeddrainisto: I guess go ahead and do the `sudo build` -- I just don't know what it is.20:23
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CosmoHillrpmbuild should not be installing anything outside of RPM_BUILD_ROOT20:23
lbtDESTDIR ?20:23
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CosmoHillrainisto: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=openmpi.spec&package=openmpi&project=home%3Acosmo&srcmd5=9081d8cbcd9e125c09f96fcb0450ba9820:23
CosmoHillthis is my rpm that builds :)20:23
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gabrbeddrainisto: Your `make install` target needs to support the DESTDIR and PREFIX conventions.20:23
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CosmoHillthis is the main reason for not using sudo20:23
CosmoHillrpmbuild ends up installing directly onto your hard drive instead of making a package20:24
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rainistoah, qmake honors INSTALL_ROOT, now sudo build almost succeeds, make install etc, now only getting Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found:, But if I remember right that can be turned out in spec file somehow20:38
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rainistoatleast should be trivial to clean20:38
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gabrbeddrainisto: Yes, after you install rpmbuild checks to see if you installed something that didn't appear in your `%files` section.20:43
rainisto%define _unpackaged_files_terminate_build 020:43
rainistoeasy fix20:43
gabrbeddrainisto: If it finds something, it flags an error.  You then check to see if it's /supposed/ to be there... and if so then add it to the %files stuff.20:43
gabrbeddrainisto: No.  Don't do that.20:43
rainistoas they shouldnt be in there, qmake make install just adds some files that are not needed20:44
gabrbeddAdd the files to your %files section, or else don't install them.20:45
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rainistobut qmake autogenerates Makefile which installs them, would be to much of a hassle to sed the generated Makefile between qmake and make install20:49
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lbtlorpol: try now20:54
lbtand synx should now occur every 10mins (same datacenter now)20:54
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gabrbeddrainisto: qmake /should/ only try to install them if they're in your .pro file.20:58
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rainistowell yes, they are in .pro file during development, as I pack them to .qrc when deploying, (qml files), and during development it easier not to use qrc, and you need to do make clean on every change, where as you can just change qml and rerun21:02
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rainistobut anyways, thanks for the help, now sudo build makes rpm file, and if I run the same spec file on meego device with rpmbuild, it also generates the rpmfile, although slower :)21:03
rainistooh, Im wondering that if my app has an icon, should I add icon-cache update stuff on %post like:21:07
rainisto%post21:07
rainisto/bin/touch --no-create %{_datadir}/icons/hicolor || :21:07
rainisto%{_bindir}/gtk-update-icon-cache --quiet %{_datadir}/icons/hicolor 2> /dev/null|| :21:07
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gabrbeddrainisto: I've just been doing a direct path to the icon for my apps.21:11
CosmoHillI don't think calling a program from the absolute path is a good idea21:11
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gabrbeddCosmoHill: I was talking about the Icon entry.21:12
gabrbeddCosmoHill: But if you're a "meego compliant app" you have no choice... you need the full path to /opt/foo/bar/baz21:13
gabrbedd...for the Exec entry21:14
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CosmoHillI was just refering to things like "touch"21:17
rainistoah, well that one was copied from some build.meego.com .spec file :)21:17
gabrbeddCosmoHill: Ah!  Trou.21:19
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rainistoand now that Im browsing more build.meego.com .spec files, it seems that /bin/touch is widely used in there for applications that have visible icon, so if its good enough to @intel.com people... :)21:22
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dnearyI'm trying to download files that start with # with wget, and having issues23:01
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gabrbedddneary: Try substituting %2323:02
dnearyIf I put # in the filename on the command line, it downloads index.html#...23:02
dnearyAnd if I put %23 it gives me a 40423:02
dnearygabrbedd, Ahead of you :)23:02
gabrbedd:-)23:03
berndhsthat's not wget though, that's the server more likely ?23:03
w00t_tried quoting it?23:03
gabrbeddCan you give an example?23:03
gabrbeddexample URL that is.23:03
dnearyhttp://mg.pov.lt/meego-irclog/#meego.2011-03-25.log23:03
dnearyw00t_, Yes23:04
dnearyThe quoting escapes it in the shell, but wget still parses it23:04
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berndhstry curl23:05
berndhsactually I take that back, here wget downloads it abd curl doesn't23:06
w00t_worked fine for me23:07
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gabrbeddwget http://mg.pov.lt/meego-irclog/\#meego.2011-03-25.log23:07
gabrbeddWORKSFORME23:07
gabrbedd:-p23:07
gabrbeddNote the \#23:07
dnearyThat downloads index.html for me23:07
berndhsdneary: yes and index.html contains the same as the web page23:08
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w00t_actually, no23:08
w00t_neither of those work23:08
berndhsworks here, wget gets the list that I see in the browser23:09
dnearyberndhs, index.html doesn't contain the same thing as the plain text IRC log at http://mg.pov.lt/meego-irclog/#meego.2011-03-25.log23:09
dnearyWorks fine in Firefox23:09
berndhsdneary: it does look the same here23:09
w00t_they both download the index, not the right thing23:09
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gabrbedd\%23 and %23 pulled the log for me.23:09
gabrbeddYes, \# got the index.23:09
dnearyThe head of the file looks like this for me:23:10
dneary2011-03-25T00:00:03  <vgrade> lcuk, I thought it was interesting in light of, http://twitter.com/#!/Arubin/status/2780866242923:10
dneary2011-03-25T00:02:50  <lcuk> vgrade, what is the repo command set in use there?23:10
gabrbeddso... that one didn't work for me :-)23:10
dnearygabrbedd, So... wget with %23?23:10
dnearyor curl with %23?23:10
berndhsi get the same index in firefox and in wget23:10
berndhslist of dates23:11
dnearyberndhs, So you don't get the log file23:11
berndhsno23:11
dnearyClick on the link to 2011-03-25 it'll bring you to a file called #meego.2011-03-25.log.html23:12
dnearyDelete the .html and you get the plain text log23:12
dnearyThat's the file I want23:12
gabrbeddRight... but \%23 and %23 downloaded the log file for me.23:12
gabrbeddberndhs: index.html was different from the actual IRC log for me when using \#23:12
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berndhsmaybe if you precent-encode the %2323:14
gabrbeddwget with %23 worked for me.23:14
dnearygabrbedd, What version?23:14
dnearyGives me a 40423:14
gabrbedd1.11.423:14
dneary1.12 here23:15
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berndhsif I tell wget ...\%23meego... I get the formatted lines of irc posts23:16
gabrbedddneary: What if you try to DL the index.html file instead?  Still 404?23:18
Stskeepsdneary: dashboard irc?23:18
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lbtthe # is not part of the url23:21
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lbtin the original url23:22
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dnearyStskeeps, Yes23:24
dnearygabrbedd, index.html works fine23:24
dnearyIt worked with single quotes & %2323:24
gabrbedddneary: Actually, for me using google chrome... the # didn't work.  I had to use %2323:26
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gabrbeddUsing # got me the index.23:27
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berndhsusuall stuff after # is a "reference' or "fragment", gives a locatin within the file23:28
dnearygabrbedd, In URLs, in the browser, you need %23, indeed23:28
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CosmoHilltaken me ages to find out I needed {} and not ()23:32
gabrbeddCosmoHill: .spec file?23:32
CosmoHillmatlab23:32
CosmoHillvery pleased with myself tho23:32
Bostikah, syntax terror23:32
CosmoHillmanaged to turn a 80 line tutorial into a 10 line functions that takes any images you give it and returns an average23:33
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dnearyCosmoHill, For an array?23:50
CosmoHillyeah23:50
Stskeepsdneary: i've got on my list to centralize logging on the meego infra with a supybot23:50
dnearyStskeeps, I just got supybot support added to superseriousstats23:51
dnearyStskeeps, And it'd be really nice to have links to the raw text log files instead of having to generate them from the HTMLised files23:52
Stskeepsdneary: we have an irc vm to populate so :P (1.2 just keeps on pushing things in front..)23:52
dnearyAnd a link to the most recent text file too :)23:52
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Stskeepsinteresting23:53
* CosmoHill spots the line "mask = mask;"23:53
Stskeepsdneary: yeah, for my irc stats i use merbot's23:53
dnearyStskeeps, When it's done, it should be as starightforward as changing a URL in a script run daily in cron23:53
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Stskeepsdneary: http://trac.tspre.org/merbot/freenode/%23meego/23:55
Stskeeps(irssi format, i think..)23:57
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dnearyStskeeps, Not exactly, I think23:57

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