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| TSCHAKeee | vgrade: i have an archos9 tablet ks for you | 02:40 |
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| TSCHAKeee | vgrade: problem is, the moment a meegotouch app shows up on screen, the screen flickers like MAD | 02:40 |
| TSCHAKeee | it's acting like mcompositor is pissed off about something. | 02:41 |
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| TSCHAKeee | vgrade: damn, i just felt my soul being crushed..... am worried that the compositor issue may not be resolvable :/ | 03:06 |
| w00t_ | what's the problem? | 03:07 |
| TSCHAKeee | w00t_: any time that something other than the tablet UX's panels are on screen, the screen flickers madly to black | 03:08 |
| TSCHAKeee | it literally looks like a compositor snafu | 03:08 |
| TSCHAKeee | sometimes it will stop with a stable image | 03:09 |
| w00t_ | what application(s) are you trying | 03:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | sometimes it stops black | 03:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | everything | 03:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | settings, photos, web browser | 03:09 |
| w00t_ | that isn't really informative, I have no idea what ux you're playing with given you're talking about meegotouch | 03:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | terminal goes invisible until i start typing | 03:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | w00t_: Tablet UX | 03:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | latest in trunk | 03:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | and as i type, the terminal text bleeds through | 03:10 |
| TSCHAKeee | like i said, its like mcompositor and emgd are not playing nice | 03:10 |
| w00t_ | ok, it doesn't involve meegotouch, hence my confusion.. what happens when you run them from a terminal? | 03:10 |
| w00t_ | i'm guessing you will probably get errors about GL contexts | 03:10 |
| TSCHAKeee | yes, thats probably what's happening | 03:10 |
| TSCHAKeee | i do not have an ssh in, because i have no network yet | 03:10 |
| TSCHAKeee | I am using the Intel EMGD... build 1893 | 03:11 |
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| TSCHAKeee | GMA500, US15W chipset... I know that EMGD can do compositing, because I've used several different compositors | 03:11 |
| TSCHAKeee | including our own Orbiter | 03:11 |
| TSCHAKeee | (our OrbiterGL does both compositing and OpenGL) | 03:12 |
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| zakkkkm | meego works with GMA 500? | 03:14 |
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| TSCHAKeee | zakkkkm: i am putting together specific kickstarts for my hardware | 03:18 |
| TSCHAKeee | but it is not for mere mortals | 03:18 |
| zakkkkm | I am LPI certified, and do work in IT? | 03:19 |
| zakkkkm | I have a acer aspire 0751h i would love to have meego. | 03:19 |
| zakkkkm | I was going to actually attempt to sell it, and buy a new netbook | 03:19 |
| TSCHAKeee | good for you | 03:20 |
| TSCHAKeee | ;) | 03:20 |
| zakkkkm | aha, i dont mean like that. I just would really like to try it if i can. | 03:20 |
| TSCHAKeee | zakkkkm: you will have to make (1) a custom kernel adaptation for your system, with EMGD patches, (2) make a kickstart which has that and the emgd-bin package as part of its install... you'll also need to make sure that it chmod +s /usr/bin/Xorg as part of the postinstall. | 03:21 |
| TSCHAKeee | zakkkkm: then you can assemble your own image with mic-image-creator | 03:22 |
| TSCHAKeee | the devices that I have (Joggler and Archos 9), have stuff for touch screens and specific hardware quirks (each has their own kernel adaptation) | 03:22 |
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| vgrade | TSCHAKeee, not the best placed to comment now, too mnay beers. post your ke and I'll have a look tomorrow | 03:44 |
| vgrade | ks | 03:44 |
| TSCHAKeee | vgrade: ok | 03:46 |
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| rzr1 | hi | 05:02 |
| rzr1 | i am building some app for meego | 05:02 |
| rzr1 | it is working more or less | 05:02 |
| rzr1 | but i cant install the rpm i just built | 05:02 |
| rzr1 | must it install to /opt . | 05:03 |
| rzr1 | ? | 05:03 |
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| rzr1 | cpio: stat failed - Permission denied | 05:47 |
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| * Stskeeps yawns | 08:37 | |
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| * w00t_ echos that | 08:43 | |
| TSCHAKeee | has anyone made a little bit of C or python that catches connman connected to network events? | 08:45 |
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| Stskeeps | isnt it dbus? | 08:51 |
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| TSCHAKeee | yeah | 08:58 |
| TSCHAKeee | was just seeing if someone did a little bit of glue code before I whipped up something myself :) | 08:58 |
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| thiago | Stskeeps: morning | 09:11 |
| thiago | Stskeeps: 94% reviewed. Just need to look into those testing-related submissions and do a second pass. | 09:12 |
| w00t_ | o/ thiago | 09:12 |
| w00t_ | did you travel safely? :) | 09:12 |
| thiago | yep | 09:12 |
| thiago | though the flight crew was mad at me | 09:12 |
| thiago | I was the last one to board | 09:12 |
| w00t_ | hehehe | 09:12 |
| w00t_ | late getting to the airport? | 09:13 |
| thiago | no | 09:13 |
| thiago | from the lounge to the gate | 09:13 |
| thiago | I thought the flight was 16:50 | 09:13 |
| Stskeeps | thiago: cool | 09:13 |
| thiago | so I was happily in the lounge at 16:05 when they announced that they would close the flight | 09:13 |
| thiago | it was departure at 16:15 | 09:13 |
| w00t_ | oops | 09:14 |
| Stskeeps | thiago: when was it dirk was supposed to be back? | 09:14 |
| thiago | he said he'd be back Thursday | 09:15 |
| Stskeeps | k | 09:15 |
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| Hq` | will there be certified qt developer exams in the san francisco conference like there was in dublin? | 09:32 |
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| thiago | Hq`: we haven't planned | 09:42 |
| thiago | Hq`: you're looking to get certified? | 09:42 |
| Hq` | thiago: yes... that would've been a good excuse to ask my employer to send me to SF ;) | 09:44 |
| thiago | I'll ask in the next call | 09:45 |
| Hq` | ok, thanks | 09:48 |
| Hq` | I'll probably have to settle for taking the exam here in finland at some point, though :P | 09:49 |
| thiago | you know, you should convince your employer to send you to SF for the conference itself | 09:50 |
| thiago | we've got a lot of good proposals | 09:50 |
| mihero | there should be instructions how to convince employer atleast a howto:) | 09:51 |
| thiago | start one on the wiki | 09:51 |
| Hq` | yeah, I guess it wouldn't hurt to ask anyway | 09:51 |
| Hq` | :) | 09:51 |
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| mihero | I'm not good for writing those because I'm strugling to come up good reason to convince employer | 10:03 |
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| iekku | morning | 10:14 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt, linkpac -C option is interesting | 11:12 |
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| * lbt looks | 11:15 | |
| cherrot | /me cherrot | 11:15 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: no .... please no... | 11:16 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt, well, isnt the solution, but 'copy' is useful for armv7nhl packages which need to follow the orig pkgs one | 11:17 |
| lbt | yes it solves your immediate problem... but the whole unlabelled changelog entry and the rest of the complexity in vendor numbering | 11:17 |
| lbt | *nod* | 11:17 |
| lbt | I can see it being useful for a transient fork | 11:17 |
| lbt | and until core realise they're not their own customers :) | 11:17 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt, i don't like it but my solution ended up with default linkpac behaviour (add) and linking to specific revision (current), and then scripting some tool to make us know when upstream cicount changes | 11:20 |
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| lbt | I need to fix some infra issues - can we get back to the changelog entry thing tomorrow? | 11:22 |
| Stskeeps | so we can pull new changes | 11:22 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 11:22 |
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| rzr1 | https://www.meego.com/user/login hasnt woke up yet | 13:26 |
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| timeless_w7ip | it's a weekend, let it sleep | 13:36 |
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| * thiago will go back to sleep | 13:48 | |
| timeless_w7ip | good idea :) | 13:50 |
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| lbt | rzr1: thanks for mentioning it | 14:00 |
| rzr1 | you're welcome | 14:01 |
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| rzr1 | is OBS open to any members? | 14:01 |
| dm8tbr | community obs is open for open source work | 14:02 |
| dm8tbr | just poke lbt or x-fade | 14:02 |
| lbt | yes | 14:03 |
| lbt | and *it* is up ;) | 14:03 |
| rzr1 | good | 14:03 |
| rzr1 | is there a webpage to start ? | 14:03 |
| lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/user/register_user | 14:03 |
| dm8tbr | https://build.pub.meego.com/user/register_user ;) | 14:03 |
| lbt | :) | 14:03 |
| lbt | confirm what you're doing, let me know the account name | 14:04 |
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| rzr1 | i think it's rzr | 14:04 |
| rzr1 | i plan to build a game i just ported to meego | 14:05 |
| lbt | ok - so long as it's opensource | 14:05 |
| lbt | and.. enabled | 14:05 |
| rzr1 | gpl2+ | 14:05 |
| rzr1 | i confirm | 14:06 |
| * rzr1 is rzr | 14:06 | |
| lbt | *nod* ... enabled already :) | 14:07 |
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| rzr1 | lbt: thx | 14:37 |
| rzr1 | wait i have already some account on suse obs | 14:38 |
| * lbt has an account on google.com | 14:38 | |
| rzr1 | and google as an account on your brain :) | 14:38 |
| rzr1 | should i use osc and friends like on suse builder ? | 14:39 |
| lbt | yes | 14:40 |
| lbt | initiall you need the -A option | 14:40 |
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| lbt | then (provided your .oscrc has no 'default') it will pick up the right obs from the cwd | 14:41 |
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| achipa | "Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. Please try again. If it still does not work, try logging out and logging back in. " | 14:41 |
| achipa | (wiki.meego.com) | 14:42 |
| achipa | is it just me or ? | 14:42 |
| rzr1 | achipa: not the host is in east japan | 14:42 |
| achipa | (needless to say, I tried loggin in-out, restarting browser, etc) | 14:42 |
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| lbt | achipa: hold on | 14:59 |
| lbt | achipa: mmm .... WFM... sorry | 15:02 |
| lbt | tell me more... | 15:02 |
| achipa | lbt: hm, still the same for me... trying to edit http://wiki.meego.com/index.php?title=Local_MeeGo_Networks/MeeGo_Network_Finland/MeeGo_Summit_FI_Hosting_Team | 15:06 |
| rzr1 | Server returned an error: HTTP Error 401: Unauthorized | 15:06 |
| rzr1 | :( | 15:06 |
| achipa | hang on... | 15:06 |
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| achipa | there is some monkey business going on... I can edit from the main 'edit' tab but if I try to edit sections directly, it gets cooky | 15:09 |
| lbt | ooh | 15:10 |
| lbt | yep ... well found that man! | 15:10 |
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| smoku | why is my meego installation changing its /etc/localtime to Europe/Helsinki everytime I reboot? | 15:11 |
| rzr1 | lbt: <summary>Unknown user 'rzr' or invalid password</summary> | 15:11 |
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| rzr1 | where to set pwd ? on m.org ? | 15:12 |
| rzr1 | .com | 15:12 |
| rzr1 | err | 15:12 |
| lbt | achipa: cc on this https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15178 if you like | 15:13 |
| lbt | rzr1: where? | 15:13 |
| rzr1 | osc ls | 15:14 |
| rzr1 | i can paste the log | 15:14 |
| lbt | pastebin - yes | 15:14 |
| lbt | are you using osc -A ? | 15:14 |
| lbt | otherwise it may use suse obs | 15:14 |
| achipa | lbt: thx, CCadded | 15:15 |
| rzr1 | http://who.is.free.fr/dokuwiki/doku.php/meego#error | 15:16 |
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| lbt | rzr1: OK works here so it's not the server | 15:18 |
| lbt | so your .oscrc file - does that now have an https://api.pub.meego.com entry ? | 15:19 |
| lbt | (I assume you can login to https://build.pub.meego.com ) | 15:20 |
| rzr1 | i deleted it | 15:20 |
| rzr1 | it was generated on 1st try | 15:20 |
| lbt | so - confirm web page works | 15:20 |
| rzr1 | i log/out again | 15:20 |
| rzr1 | ok i cant login again | 15:21 |
| rzr1 | now it's ok | 15:22 |
| rzr1 | password are not sync w/ | 15:22 |
| rzr1 | well nevermind it ok | 15:22 |
| lbt | ah | 15:22 |
| lbt | OK | 15:22 |
| lbt | password changes take an hour to sync | 15:22 |
| lbt | or rather, sync on the hour | 15:23 |
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| lbt | will that be it rzr1? | 15:23 |
| rzr1 | no just rzr | 15:23 |
| rzr1 | i'll commit in a sec | 15:23 |
| rzr1 | thx for your time | 15:23 |
| lbt | OK --- I just parsed your messages.... :) | 15:24 |
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| berndhs | morning | 15:45 |
| thiago | morning berndhs | 15:45 |
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| CosmoHill | bleh | 18:18 |
| CosmoHill | so much marketing crap out there when it comes to home routers | 18:18 |
| mihero | and hype | 18:18 |
| CosmoHill | there is nothing a regular home user will want from a 300Mb/s 'ultimate' gaming wifi router than a high gain 54g router can't do | 18:19 |
| mihero | i went for a hype with netgear wndr3700, bit of a dissapointment | 18:19 |
| CosmoHill | (ADSL2+ speeds being 24Mb/s) | 18:19 |
| Bostik | not to mention some pretty broken out-of-the-box, hidden-from-user QoS | 18:19 |
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| Bostik | "net == WoW + www + bittorrent" | 18:20 |
| mihero | and irc | 18:20 |
| CosmoHill | I'm waiting for TP-Link to release a ADSL2+ router with 300Mb/s wifi and gigabit ethernet | 18:20 |
| CosmoHill | I can't understand the point of having wireless N if the backend is only fast ethernet | 18:21 |
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| GAN900 | Why do you want a modem/router combo? | 18:22 |
| mihero | not all traffic is going out of your network | 18:22 |
| GAN900 | Just buy a standalone router. | 18:22 |
| CosmoHill | GAN900: i duno, it's just the norm for the UK | 18:22 |
| GAN900 | That's silly | 18:23 |
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| GAN900 | byor | 18:23 |
| CosmoHill | I have been thinking of getting a separate modem incase we change to BT infinity or Virgin Media so we can just plug the new modem into the router | 18:24 |
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| CosmoHill | I also like the idea of being able to install DD-WRT | 18:26 |
| mihero | i like the openwrt bit more | 18:26 |
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| mihero | dd-wrt was too easy:) | 18:27 |
| CosmoHill | I think I can install openwrt onto my Netgear DG834G v3 | 18:27 |
| CosmoHill | tbh I just want a modem that doesn't think -1db is a good noise margin | 18:27 |
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| Bostik | I would like to abolish all home DRL router that choke and reboot when uplink speeds exceed 700kB/s (*cough* linksys *cough*) | 18:29 |
| Bostik | fun didn' | 18:29 |
| Bostik | didn't begin to describe that one | 18:29 |
| maligor | dd-wrt is a horrible mess | 18:29 |
| CosmoHill | our router gives us a low noise margin has has a nasty habit of holding onto useless connections, forcing us to reboot it | 18:29 |
| maligor | their build system is from hell and they use antique tools | 18:29 |
| CosmoHill | sometimes it drops and gets a new one | 18:29 |
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| maligor | and so is the nvram settings store they use on it | 18:31 |
| CosmoHill | does open-wrt have a web based gui? | 18:31 |
| mihero | yep | 18:31 |
| mihero | both have | 18:31 |
| CosmoHill | ooo | 18:31 |
| mihero | but it is quite easy to do setup with conffiles | 18:32 |
| mihero | easier than the old nvram | 18:32 |
| maligor | well, biggest issue with nvram is if you corrupt it | 18:33 |
| mihero | ou, how do you manage to do that? | 18:35 |
| maligor | well, there are some routers that use the same nvram to store bootloader stuff | 18:36 |
| maligor | broadcom CFE I think | 18:36 |
| maligor | if you mess those up, you get a brick | 18:36 |
| mihero | aa | 18:36 |
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| rzr1 | any of you run meego on real ARM device that w/ hw 3d ? | 19:17 |
| rzr1 | ping me for a test | 19:17 |
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| rzr1 | bbl | 19:21 |
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| CosmoHill | I hate it when I'm on a website, click a link to find out more detail / go to the shop and it takes me to the US website | 19:36 |
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| berndhs | I hate it when I type in the address of a US website and it redirects me to my local edition | 19:41 |
| CosmoHill | I don't like it cos I'm trying to find out the price of something | 19:45 |
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| CosmoHill | I mean with Adobe you can change the dollar sign to a pound sign and be very close to the actual price | 19:45 |
| berndhs | your taxes at work :) | 19:46 |
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| Jaffa | Anyone got anything interesting for http://www.mwkn.net/ this week? | 21:36 |
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| rzr | back | 22:12 |
| rzr | any meego ARM users around ? | 22:12 |
| CosmoHill | front and no | 22:12 |
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| TSCHAKeee | does anyone in OBS world have a solution to this unique problem? I am building a package on OBS, and, THIS is happening: | 22:45 |
| TSCHAKeee | config.status: executing depfiles commands | 22:45 |
| TSCHAKeee | + %make | 22:45 |
| TSCHAKeee | /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.WV9Z1e: line 56: fg: no job control | 22:45 |
| TSCHAKeee | error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.WV9Z1e (%build) | 22:45 |
| TSCHAKeee | i'm stumped. | 22:45 |
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| TSCHAKeee | oh nm | 22:47 |
| TSCHAKeee | it's a damned undefined macro | 22:47 |
| * CosmoHill bounces off walls when he sees the price of a car he wants | 22:49 | |
| berndhs | that cheap eh ? | 22:49 |
| CosmoHill | £4500 | 22:50 |
| berndhs | that's very reasonable for a Rolls | 22:50 |
| CosmoHill | Lancia Delta :D | 22:51 |
| berndhs | those fiit in the trunk of a Rolls, right ? | 22:51 |
| CosmoHill | shame people think that if you WRITE EVERYTHING IN CAPITALS people will read it | 22:51 |
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| GAN900 | CosmoHill, classic Delta or a new one? | 23:05 |
| GAN900 | I'd die for an Evo III | 23:05 |
| GAN900 | Can't get them here for less thank $35k, though. | 23:05 |
| CosmoHill | Evo II was the last sold in the UK | 23:05 |
| CosmoHill | £8000 for INTEGRALE 16V | 23:05 |
| CosmoHill | there's a HF Turbo IE for £5000 wish wikipedia says doesn't exist | 23:06 |
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| GAN900 | Hehe | 23:10 |
| GAN900 | That is a gorgeous car | 23:11 |
| GAN900 | I'd love to get an E30 M3. | 23:11 |
| GAN900 | Actually have those in the US, so they're affordable. | 23:11 |
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| CosmoHill | I'd be very interested to see how euro spec cars compare to us spec | 23:16 |
| CosmoHill | I hear your handbrakes are useless | 23:16 |
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| CosmoHill | there's a 2.0L 4WD from 1989 that looks like a shed | 23:19 |
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| GAN900 | Depends on which car. | 23:24 |
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| GAN900 | Sometimes the idiotic California regulations get in the way | 23:24 |
| GAN900 | The US-spec E36 M3 is only rated for 300hp (as opposed to 330) due to the EPA. | 23:25 |
| CosmoHill | http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201106379367431/sort/priceasc/usedcars/make/lancia/quicksearch/true/page/1/postcode/cm26sg/radius/1501?logcode=p | 23:25 |
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| GAN900 | CA-spec Camry's from a few years ago had 7 fewer hp than the rest of the world. | 23:28 |
| CosmoHill | it does seem weird looking at cars that are older than mine or have more mileage | 23:28 |
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