| lbt | I like the wobbly windows effects on the SMSes | 00:00 |
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| lcuk | this is the same thing but actually rerendered: http://liqbase.net/liq.20110320_032054.liqbase-playground.scr.png | 00:00 |
| lcuk | lbt lol | 00:00 |
| lcuk | s/same/similar/ | 00:01 |
| * javispedro used to believe that the reason non-mtf apps looked awful under mcompositor was that the latter did something like what lcuk is suggesting | 00:03 | |
| javispedro | sadly, that does not seem to be the case. | 00:03 |
| javispedro | (well, or "fortunately"). | 00:03 |
| alterego | Heh | 00:04 |
| lcuk | lol | 00:04 |
| lcuk | the biggest issue I see with AA is having to double the line thickness and lose definition on contents | 00:05 |
| javispedro | I remember there were some talks about a compositor with enhanced knowledge about cairo surfaces (because cairo does have OpenGL-style 2D linear maps) | 00:07 |
| javispedro | (well, and QGraphicsView ;) ) | 00:07 |
| javispedro | I like the idea too. However breaking the "apps render to a framebuffer" abstraction is going to be hard. | 00:08 |
| npm_ | any clues on how to set a "clip rectangle" inside http://apidocs.meego.com/1.1/core/html/qt4/declarative-ui-components-tabwidget.html -- when i scroll inside the tabbed frame, the "scroll" overlaps the tabs | 00:08 |
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| npm | i should show a picture | 00:08 |
| lcuk | npm, yeah then you don't need 100 words | 00:09 |
| lcuk | s/100/1000/ | 00:09 |
| infobot | lcuk meant: npm, yeah then you don't need 1000 words | 00:09 |
| lcuk | javispedro, unfortunately it is also going to occur in QML too | 00:09 |
| lcuk | with the meme of "a line is a 1pixel rectangle" | 00:09 |
| javispedro | and wayland | 00:10 |
| javispedro | actually wayland goes further with the framebuffer concept, X11 does have some line drawing primitives you could potentially use | 00:10 |
| lcuk | well I was thinking of the toolkit itself | 00:10 |
| javispedro | wayland doesn't | 00:10 |
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| lcuk | it does but those end up composited too | 00:10 |
| lcuk | and what makes it more difficult is requiring to rescale multiple times | 00:11 |
| javispedro | yep, one has to wonder if it would be viable to make the primitives "smarter" regarding compositing | 00:11 |
| lcuk | (as you add/remove more apps, or show the dashboard in different configurations) | 00:11 |
| lcuk | yes but this would appear to add an enormous amount of complexity | 00:12 |
| lcuk | especially when you think something like collidingmice example has a whole group of lines per mouse | 00:13 |
| * lcuk was playing a game based on collidingmice on n8 today :) | 00:14 | |
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| npm | http://nielsmayer.com/meego/tabwidget-needs-cliprectangle.png is the problem i'm having w/ http://apidocs.meego.com/1.1/core/html/qt4/declarative-ui-components-tabwidget.html | 00:16 |
| lcuk | npm, have you added your content into the tabwidget or its content area? | 00:18 |
| npm | into the tabwidget... i just modified the example and dropped it into http://ytd-meego.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/playground/ytapi-jsonviewer/ | 00:19 |
| npm | and all the scrolled windows seem to confuse the tabwidget | 00:19 |
| alterego | npm: what npm you need 'clip: true' I tink in your listview | 00:22 |
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| npm | yay!! | 00:23 |
| alterego | ;) | 00:23 |
| npm | thanks alterego | 00:23 |
| alterego | np | 00:23 |
| * lcuk gets alterego a QML Superhero cape | 00:23 | |
| alterego | npm: and don't forget one of these! http://pastie.org/1693510 | 00:23 |
| * alterego chuckles | 00:24 | |
| alterego | npm: usage is at the bottom of here: http://gitorious.org/qml-meego-dialer/qml-meego-dialer/blobs/master/qml/CallHistoryPage.qml | 00:24 |
| npm | given some of the apps he posted above, i'd have to agree -- columbus looks pretty cool | 00:24 |
| alterego | And this is scroll indicator in git: http://gitorious.org/qml-meego-dialer/qml-meego-dialer/blobs/master/qml/base/ScrollIndicator.qml | 00:25 |
| alterego | npm: thank you :) | 00:25 |
| npm | excellent examples | 00:25 |
| alterego | I've neglected Columbus over the past month somewhat though :( | 00:25 |
| alterego | Should really allocate some time into getting track view loading done .. | 00:25 |
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| javispedro | btw, do we have kernel sources for the tablet ux? | 00:35 |
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| javispedro | I want to try and build my s10-3t modules for it, however, repo seems to have aversion mismatch for the kernel-devel package | 00:36 |
| javispedro | (seems that someone incremented epoch for the kernel pkg, but forgot to do the same for the -devel one...) | 00:37 |
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| timeless_w7ip | lcuk: fwiw, iiuc, OS X takes the <everything is sent to Quartz as a vector> approach | 01:01 |
| timeless_w7ip | so if the os needs to rerender, it can because it wasn't sent pixels to begin with (if the app wasn't buggy) | 01:02 |
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| npm | alterego -- i updated http://ytd-meego.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/playground/ytapi-jsonviewer/ with w/ 'qmlviewer jsontube.qml' | 01:26 |
| npm | s/with/run with/ | 01:27 |
| infobot | npm meant: alterego -- i updated http://ytd-meego.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/playground/ytapi-jsonviewer/ run with w/ 'qmlviewer jsontube.qml' | 01:27 |
| npm | :-) | 01:27 |
| alterego | :) | 01:27 |
| alterego | Groovy | 01:27 |
| npm | aka "svn co http://ytd-meego.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/playground/ytapi-jsonviewer/" | 01:28 |
| npm | i just checked it in to run on n900 | 01:28 |
| npm | it works on the desktop | 01:29 |
| npm | :-) | 01:29 |
| alterego | Strange, can't check it out | 01:29 |
| alterego | "Server sent unexpected return value (400 Bad request) in response to OPTIONS | 01:30 |
| npm | weird | 01:30 |
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| npm | "svn checkout http://ytd-meego.googlecode.com/svn/trunk" should work no? | 01:30 |
| alterego | Nope, same. | 01:30 |
| npm | try https?? | 01:31 |
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| npm | hold on i'll tar it | 01:31 |
| alterego | Neah, https worked :) | 01:31 |
| npm | ok | 01:31 |
| npm | weird how http didn't | 01:32 |
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| npm | maybe goog changed and forgot to change the docs | 01:32 |
| npm | something a while back about them switching to https: | 01:32 |
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| npm | prob to prevent certain govts from hacking gmail | 01:33 |
| alterego | Heh | 01:33 |
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| alterego | This stuff relies on Qt Components? | 01:33 |
| npm | does it? | 01:33 |
| alterego | Dunno :D | 01:34 |
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| npm | i just grabbed a bunch of examples and cobblled them together till they ran :-) | 01:34 |
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| npm | feel free to improve | 01:35 |
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| alterego | Ah right, no it's just you're using the proper new QtQuick import rather than Qt which is what my system uses :/ | 01:36 |
| alterego | That is super cool npm :) | 01:37 |
| npm | if you know of a way of viewing *all* youtube videos w/o using the WebView / flash hack (using Mobility Video widget) let me know... it won't play em for me | 01:37 |
| npm | thanks alterego | 01:37 |
| npm | now that i got the tabs working i'm adding the "book" view as well ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peC-ABhDEMQ ) | 01:38 |
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| alterego | No, not sure how you'd use the video widget, not used it myself. But it should be able to work somehow through there html5 stuff for iphone no? | 01:41 |
| npm | OTOH, using the flash viewer gives you all the cool stuff like annotations , captions/translation/etc | 01:41 |
| alterego | I think they use a proper h264 or whatever codec | 01:41 |
| npm | but the downside is you sometimes get ads | 01:41 |
| alterego | Yes, and adverts :P | 01:41 |
| alterego | heh | 01:42 |
| alterego | It works well as is, tbh, does it work on the N900 as well? | 01:42 |
| alterego | The webkit and flash plugin? | 01:42 |
| npm | finding out... need to stop washing mashine first tho | 01:43 |
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| alterego | Anyhow, I gotta hit the hay, ciao folks. | 01:50 |
| npm | alterego: it works on n900 | 01:53 |
| npm | :-) | 01:53 |
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| npm | (maemo... need to try on meego but should work as long as flash and qtwebkit cooperate like they everywhere else | 01:56 |
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| npm | doh: "Segmentation fault" (in qmlviewer on n900) | 01:57 |
| npm | but it worked for quite a while before doing it | 01:57 |
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| ali1234 | sooo..... does anyone have Qt/3D up and running on meego yet? | 02:02 |
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| ali1234 | also, any progress on getting a driver for ideapad accelerometer? | 02:03 |
| lcuk | :) timeless_w7ip sounds like how liqbase works too | 02:05 |
| lcuk | ali1234, plenty have 3d working | 02:06 |
| lcuk | and afaik accelerometer is usable in some areas | 02:06 |
| ali1234 | not the basic GL context stuff... i mean Qt/3D... with QGLSceneNode and friends | 02:08 |
| ali1234 | just looking over that discussion from 6 months ago where i was going on about how great it was | 02:08 |
| ali1234 | but seems like it's still not easily available without compiling all of Qt from scratch | 02:08 |
| lcuk | hm | 02:09 |
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| ali1234 | if you google "qt3d meego" the most relevant hit is me talking about how great it is :/ | 02:10 |
| pupnik | funny how that happens | 02:12 |
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| ali1234 | http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-17434?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Aall-tabpanel | 02:12 |
| ali1234 | seems like progress is being made at least | 02:12 |
| timeless_w7ip | that reminds me, i need to file bugs about creator sucking | 02:13 |
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| * ali1234 votes for the bug | 02:15 | |
| timeless_w7ip | sadly first i'd have to find my password | 02:17 |
| timeless_w7ip | thiago: is there a bug for adding openid support to bugreports.qt? | 02:17 |
| lcuk | timeless_w7ip, isn't that a bit chicken and eggish! | 02:20 |
| w00t_ | timeless_w7ip: http://jira.atlassian.com/browse/JRA-13942 | 02:22 |
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| CosmoHill | cyas | 02:34 |
| lcuk | nn | 02:34 |
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| CosmoHill | lcuk: fyi, twin prime test takes 12 hours on each windows and linux, I'll let you know which was fastest tomorrow | 02:34 |
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| lcuk | CosmoHill, ooh cool | 02:35 |
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| pupnik | http://www.isuppli.com/Semiconductor-Value-Chain/News/Pages/Japanese-Earthquake-to-Impact-Component-Supply-and-Pricing.aspx | 02:39 |
| timeless_w7ip | wow | 02:41 |
| timeless_w7ip | the openid stuff seems almost done | 02:41 |
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| timeless_w7ip | berndhs: well, reverse is supposed to be a canonical address, right? | 04:09 |
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| * lcuk giggles @ vid then goes to bed http://thedailywh.at/2011/03/20/does-what-it-says-on-the-tin-of-the-day/ | 04:10 | |
| lcuk | nn timeless_w7ip \o | 04:10 |
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| bkalinga | Error: The Madde configuration directory /usr/lib/madde/linux-i686/cache/madde.conf.d is not presented. | 08:09 |
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| bkalinga | i am getting this error while migrating to Meego1.1.9 | 08:10 |
| bkalinga | anyone faced this problem | 08:10 |
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| kkv | hello everyone | 09:56 |
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| Coke | looking at the support hw, it says only Atom platforms are supported. does that mean that meego wont work on all the new dual core lappies ? | 10:08 |
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| Coke | ofcourse, it also says that is for 1.0 and latest release is 1.1. I'm not sure anyone is maintaining the meego site any more. | 10:09 |
| Coke | oh fudge it | 10:11 |
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| Termana | morning | 10:57 |
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| bkalinga | hi, getting some error while Meego1.2 pre-release installation | 10:59 |
| bkalinga | http://pastebin.com/G1DNKaH1 | 10:59 |
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| bkalinga | can some one help me out | 10:59 |
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| timeless_office | anyone here familiar w/ gst? | 11:01 |
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| vgrade | I'm trying to build a Qt project on OBS using http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/qdeclarativeview.html, | 11:02 |
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| vgrade | the build fails with, main.cpp:6:28: fatal error: QDeclarativeView: No such file or directory | 11:02 |
| vgrade | What package to I need to add to the buidrequires to get this header? | 11:03 |
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| alterego | vgrade: can you paste your .pro file to a paste bin | 11:03 |
| odd | Hi | 11:04 |
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| vgrade | alterego, http://pastie.org/1695270 | 11:06 |
| odd | Hello everyone | 11:06 |
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| vgrade | morning odd | 11:06 |
| odd | How's it going | 11:07 |
| vgrade | been better, complier errors | 11:08 |
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| alterego | interesting. | 11:09 |
| alterego | libdeclarative (I think) | 11:09 |
| alterego | ang on | 11:09 |
| alterego | well, libqt4-declarative | 11:10 |
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| vgrade | I have installing libqtdeclarative4-4.7.1-4.3 in the build log | 11:11 |
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| alterego | :/ | 11:12 |
| alterego | I'd find someone elses project that compiles and look at their .spec file | 11:13 |
| vgrade | what is libqt4-declarative? | 11:13 |
| alterego | the debian name for the package yours is the correct one. | 11:13 |
| vgrade | alterego, can't find any on public obs which uses declarative, lets try other obs | 11:14 |
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| mdfe_ | hi, do anybody else build for armv7l on build.pub.meego.com with build.meego.com (Trunk) repositories? | 11:15 |
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| mdfe_ | every build fails for arm since wednesday with 'db3 error(-30971)' at chroot installation time | 11:18 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe_: local build? | 11:19 |
| mdfe_ | remote build | 11:19 |
| mdfe_ | on build.pub.meego.com | 11:19 |
| Stskeeps | show me error log | 11:19 |
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| Stskeeps | (url) | 11:19 |
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| timeless_office | stskeeps; can i interest you in Xorg code? | 11:23 |
| Stskeeps | no | 11:23 |
| RST38h | [promptly throws up] | 11:23 |
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| timeless_office | so... anyone here willing to read some x11 code? :) | 11:34 |
| timeless_office | http://mxr.meego.com/repo.meego.com/source/xorg-x11-server/dix/dixfonts.c?mark=1174-1175,1179-1180,1196,1208,1210,1212-1215,1217-1220,1393,1407,1409,1410-1417,1428-1428,1428#1166 | 11:34 |
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| lcuk | timeless_office, that is ummmm novel | 11:56 |
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| wuyongb | hello | 12:05 |
| wuyongb | is this the right channel to get account can gain access to the obs system ? | 12:06 |
| kkv | yes, ask lbt | 12:07 |
| lcuk | wuyongb, no, but have a go at explaining what you want and why you want it | 12:07 |
| lcuk | s/no/yes/ | 12:08 |
| infobot | lcuk meant: wuyongb, yes, but have a go at explaining what you want and why you want it | 12:08 |
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| wuyongb | I am team member of META Beijing team. I am trying to update some ots related test packages on repo to make ots get right test result. | 12:10 |
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| wuyongb | so ? | 12:15 |
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| Stskeeps | you probably need to file one through bugs.meego.com -> community infrastructure -> build service accounts | 12:15 |
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| wuyongb | stskeeps : but there is not link for community infastructure in bugs.meego.com | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | https://bugs.meego.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Build%20Service | 12:19 |
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| wuyongb | stskeeps : so I should file a bug with requesting authorized account(already registered) ? | 12:21 |
| wuyongb | stskeeps : with componets "Build services" ? | 12:21 |
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| timeless_office | lcuk: glad you liked | 13:07 |
| iekku | timeless_office, are you "timeless" | 13:09 |
| timeless_office | yes | 13:09 |
| iekku | ok :D | 13:09 |
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| timeless_office | andre__: ping | 13:15 |
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| andre__ | timeless_office, pong | 13:37 |
| timeless_office | andre: so, i'm thinking of making a http://wiki.meego.com/index.php?title=Quality/UpstreamBugTrackers&action=submit | 13:39 |
| timeless_office | kinda like https://launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers/ | 13:39 |
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| timeless_office | unless you already have such a thing | 13:39 |
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| andre__ | timeless_office, not existing, and very welcome. maybe http://live.gnome.org/Bugsquad/TriageGuide/NonGnome is also helpful | 13:41 |
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| timeless_office | andre__: that page is not interested in loading | 13:45 |
| timeless_office | is live dead? :) | 13:45 |
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| andre__ | timeless_office, hmm, looks like | 13:46 |
| andre__ | it's just a list with links to other bugtrackers | 13:47 |
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| timeless_office | can you poke someone to make live less dead? | 13:48 |
| smoku | timeless_office, http://tinyurl.com/6gmvmet | 13:49 |
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| thiago | Stskeeps: what image should I use if I want to build Qt against the ARM target? | 13:51 |
| thiago | Stskeeps: or should I use mic to create one for me? | 13:52 |
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| timeless_office | iekku / andre__: http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/UpstreamBugTrackers | 13:52 |
| timeless_office | grr | 13:54 |
| Stskeeps | thiago: so, if it was me doing it, i'd personally use a obs account, osc checkout qt, osc build armv7el and then osc chroot afterwards to chroot into a ARM chroot with cross compilers installed | 13:54 |
| andre__ | looks good | 13:54 |
| thiago | Stskeeps: I was more thinking about running benchmarks | 13:54 |
| Stskeeps | thiago: with all my needed dependancies already installed | 13:54 |
| w00t_ | fab .. bah, no fabo? | 13:55 |
| Stskeeps | w00t_: get him in from #meego-arm? :P | 13:55 |
| * thiago needs to upgrade his gcc ARM toolchain | 13:55 | |
| thiago | do we patch gcc in MeeGo? Or is it pristine? | 13:56 |
| lcuk | Stskeeps, I wonder why there is a difference in people in #meego as in #meego-arm | 13:56 |
| w00t_ | it uses linaro patches at least I think | 13:56 |
| Stskeeps | it's gcc 4.5 + linaro 2010.09 patches plus one or two patches i think | 13:56 |
| * thiago should download that instead of the CS2010q3 | 13:57 | |
| Stskeeps | right, that'd be the sdk guys you'd have to ask :P | 13:58 |
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| Stskeeps | think there's a standalone install for it | 13:59 |
| Stskeeps | and 1.2 sysroots ought to have all -devel packages.. i think | 13:59 |
| iekku | timeless_office, nice, thanks :) | 13:59 |
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| timeless_office | iekku: http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/Bugtriage_Guide#Is_it_in_the_right_place.3F | 14:07 |
| timeless_office | if you want more bits, you'll probably have to add them | 14:07 |
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| timeless_office | i think +1 page +1 link is enough on my part | 14:08 |
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| timeless_office | iekku: first task for you: add the Qt bug tracker ;-) | 14:21 |
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| iekku | timeless_office, try to do that | 14:23 |
| iekku | on some point during this week :D | 14:23 |
| iekku | need to add a to-do | 14:23 |
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| timeless_office | the problem is that the time it takes to add a todo is roughly equivalent to doing it | 14:23 |
| iekku | in the meeting currently | 14:24 |
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| iekku | hope the qt page is correct | 14:31 |
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| timeless_office | sounds right | 14:32 |
| timeless_office | but, i was hoping people would keep the list sorted alphabetically ;-0 | 14:32 |
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| timeless_office | but yeah, that link's correct, good job ;) | 14:34 |
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| frak | hi | 14:50 |
| Stskeeps | hi | 14:51 |
| timeless_office | iekku: part of the reason i'm filing these bugs is to show people how to use the tools that we have | 14:52 |
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| iekku | timeless_office, ok | 14:53 |
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| timeless_office | ideally at some point, someone will be write a document explaining how to use mxr w/ bugzilla and point to or source material from some of them | 14:54 |
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| timeless_office | of course, i'd also like to get people into the habbit of sending bugs to upstream if they're filed here | 14:55 |
| loft306 | heh | 14:56 |
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| luist | is there any command that i list all the applications in the meego applications menu? something similar to kbuildsycoca4 --menutest from kde? | 15:51 |
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| zinit | morning | 16:07 |
| gabrbedd | howdy! | 16:08 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 16:09 |
| kkv | morning? good morning ((: | 16:10 |
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| zinit | ofcourse its morning:P its not 5.pm yet, sp it cant be afternoon... | 16:10 |
| Stskeeps | ~ugt | 16:11 |
| infobot | i heard ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html | 16:11 |
| zinit | I hate the 3g coverage in dublin... it sucks... I'm in the mioddle of the bloody city, and got no 3g... | 16:11 |
| zinit | and when you got 3g, the speeds stink... (200ms in ping to my linux box in france.... when I'm on wlan the onig is about 50... | 16:12 |
| zinit | anyone going to the meego conferance in the states this year? | 16:13 |
| Stskeeps | <- | 16:13 |
| zinit | a long and expencive trip.... or is your job paying? | 16:13 |
| Stskeeps | am actually planning on paying myself | 16:13 |
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| iekku | i'm trying to participate | 16:14 |
| zinit | would be nice if it would be in dublin this year too. then I would definatly go | 16:14 |
| Stskeeps | (as i'll also be coupling it with a 14 day vacation) | 16:14 |
| zinit | cant afford to go to the states this year | 16:14 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, oh, that's nice! | 16:14 |
| zinit | just starting a new job, and doubt dell would pay my trip to the states:P | 16:14 |
| iekku | damn i couldn't take it as a honeymoon also :D | 16:15 |
| Stskeeps | my honeymoon was in helsinki. | 16:15 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:15 |
| zinit | hehe | 16:15 |
| zinit | annoying that nokia made a deal with M$ fro phones.. would be betting if they would stick to meego. would definatly increade the number of people involved | 16:17 |
| zinit | and the number of phones that can run it... | 16:17 |
| zinit | the N8 would be nice for meego | 16:17 |
| zinit | or the enw ones they are releasing | 16:17 |
| qgil_ | #meego-bar? :) | 16:17 |
| zinit | :P | 16:17 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, #meego-bar please :) | 16:18 |
| zinit | have the issue with meego in virtualbox been resolved? or is there still a horrible amount of work to get it working there? | 16:18 |
| zinit | havent tried since the conference here in dublin | 16:18 |
| Stskeeps | zinit: the problem rests with gl acceleration which is a bit underdeveloped in vmware and virtualbox and such | 16:18 |
| zinit | Stskeeps: hope there will be a permanent fix for that as the next verison of virtualbox comes out | 16:19 |
| Stskeeps | haven't seen what it includes | 16:19 |
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| zinit | a colleague told me me he got it up fine in vmware, but running vmware on a netbook with 1 gig memory under win7 is not an option... | 16:20 |
| Stskeeps | we do have our own qemu's too though | 16:20 |
| zinit | havent been able to get vmware working under meego | 16:20 |
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| zinit | trying to trach donw a n900, want one for free, ebay is too expencive | 16:22 |
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| Stskeeps | probably difficult considering it's still very usable, but since it's going out of production it should be cheaper.. | 16:22 |
| zinit | typing as sentence and it takes 5-10 seconds befire it shows on my screen:P | 16:22 |
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| zinit | running irssi on a server I got at the gandi.net system in france | 16:23 |
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| zinit | and I bet it doesnt help that I'm using windows 7 ultimate here...... with visual studio ultimate mssql eats memory for breakfast.. | 16:24 |
| Stskeeps | so what's your interest in meego, out of curiousity? | 16:25 |
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| zinit | thats why I went to the meego conference last year here in dublin | 16:25 |
| zinit | using it on my wife's netbook. she loves it. and also got it on this one that I got at the conference. | 16:26 |
| chinmaya | iekku: ping | 16:26 |
| zinit | unfortunatly I'm stuck with windows when I want to use the mobile connection with my phone. havent been able to get that to work properly in meego | 16:26 |
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| zinit | with my old symbian phone it worked, but not with the iphone.. the personal accesspoint or whatever its called doesnt work. | 16:27 |
| zinit | got it working in windows 7 and ubuntu, but not meego. probably some driver thhing, or configuration... | 16:29 |
| iekku | chinmaya, pong :) | 16:30 |
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| luist | is there any command that i list all the applications in the meego applications menu? something similar to kbuildsycoca4 --menutest from kde? | 17:11 |
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| gabrbedd | luist: It's UX-specific. Sounds like your using the Netbook UX... which is using mutter/clutter. While this is not an answer... I hope it's helpful. :-) | 17:14 |
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| leinir | luist: it seems most are using xdg for that piece of information... but other than that, not really :) | 17:15 |
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| luist | leinir: is there any xdg tool to do that? | 17:22 |
| leinir | well, it depends greatly on what sort of code you're writing, or of you mean an actual command line tool of some type :) | 17:22 |
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| gabrbedd | luist: I think the procedure is simple enough that most end-applications just write their own code. Basically you scan the files in /usr/share/applications/*.desktop . These are written in a conf-file format, and the entry you're looking for is [Desktop Entry]/Categories | 17:29 |
| gabrbedd | luist: Categories is a semi-colon-delimited list of application categories... and one of the canonical categories is called "Application" | 17:30 |
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| gabrbedd | luist: Hmmm... maybe not. "Application" appears to be an extension, and not in the canonical list. http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-latest.html#category-registry | 17:34 |
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| berndhs | why wont QML listview redraw the header when I reset the model ? grrrrrrr | 17:47 |
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| gabrbedd | berndhs: where'd you get the listview from? The new desktop components lib? | 17:48 |
| berndhs | qt 471 or qt 472 | 17:48 |
| berndhs | qtquick 1.0 in both of them | 17:49 |
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| wmarone | sweet | 17:54 |
| wmarone | has anyone had an issue where the Qt creator will instantly segfault when trying to open up a .ui window? | 17:54 |
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| gabrbedd | berndhs: oh, I see it now. :-) | 18:00 |
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| berndhs | gabrbedd: yeah been there for a long time | 18:03 |
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| gabrbedd | berndhs: yeah, when I went searching for a combo box and couldn't find one... I erroneously concluded there were not any other kind of useful desktop Items, either. | 18:09 |
| gabrbedd | berndhs: :-) | 18:09 |
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| berndhs | it has fields for "delegate" and "model", "header' "footer" and so on | 18:10 |
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| berndhs | but it only doesnt the header once on loading, never updates it | 18:10 |
| berndhs | i'll go whine about it in #qt :) | 18:11 |
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| berndhs | nobody listening in #qt | 18:30 |
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| dneary | DawnFoster, Hi tere! Well again? | 18:31 |
| DawnFoster | dneary: Feeling better, but still kind of sick unfortunately | 18:32 |
| DawnFoster | something nasty that lasts about 2 weeks has been going around the office | 18:33 |
| dneary | DawnFoster, Working away getting IRC & git data into database so that I can start reports work, and I have some nice wiki reports | 18:33 |
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| dneary | DawnFoster, But the lack of access to hardware where I can put what I have online & get others involved is slowing me down. | 18:33 |
| * CosmoHill waves at DawnFoster from across the room | 18:34 | |
| dneary | DawnFoster, Is there anything I can do to speed that up? | 18:34 |
| DawnFoster | hey CosmoHill | 18:34 |
| DawnFoster | dneary: do you still need that vm set up? | 18:34 |
| dneary | Also access to bugzilla & mediawiki would be really nice | 18:34 |
| dneary | DawnFoster, Yeah | 18:34 |
| dneary | I commented on the bugzilla entry recently to ping | 18:34 |
| dneary | No response | 18:35 |
| DawnFoster | dneary: ok, i'll follow up with Adam again | 18:35 |
| dneary | thanks | 18:35 |
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| tekonivelo | "waiting for root device /dev/mmcblk0p1..." | 18:43 |
| tekonivelo | how long should i wait? | 18:44 |
| tekonivelo | is 2 minutes enough? | 18:44 |
| tekonivelo | i'm booting off an ssd -card, like recommended | 18:44 |
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| gabrbedd | one mississippi... two mississippi... three mississippii... | 18:46 |
| CosmoHill | first time it boots it takes a while | 18:46 |
| CosmoHill | or 3 rivers | 18:46 |
| tekonivelo | that "waiting for root" isn't an indication that nothing is happening? | 18:47 |
| tekonivelo | 10 minutes? | 18:47 |
| tekonivelo | depends on the ssd card i guess | 18:47 |
| CosmoHill | you mean SD card? | 18:47 |
| tekonivelo | oops yes | 18:47 |
| tekonivelo | is 30 minutes too much? | 18:48 |
| CosmoHill | yes I'd say so | 18:48 |
| CosmoHill | 30 mins sounds more like a desktop install than a smart phone | 18:49 |
| CosmoHill | maybe the image you downloaded was corrupted or you didn't use the correct boot options from flasher | 18:53 |
| tekonivelo | yeah that 's possiblel | 18:53 |
| tekonivelo | i guess the card should mount properly when i boot Maemo | 18:53 |
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| dneary | DawnFoster, Julien messaged. Thanks for the pointer. How was SXSW? | 18:58 |
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| jeremiah | What tool do people use for dependency tracking in MeeGo? | 19:44 |
| jeremiah | Specifically for reverse depends | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | OBS itself | 19:45 |
| Stskeeps | it has a nice feature | 19:45 |
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| jeremiah | So why would a package, eggdbus, have 160 reverse dependencies? | 19:46 |
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| Stskeeps | someone screwed up? got an example? | 19:47 |
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| tekonivelo | now i managed to boot to MeeGo | 20:08 |
| tekonivelo | well, it's doing something at least it seems | 20:08 |
| tekonivelo | ok desktop :) | 20:08 |
| tekonivelo | now let's see if this N900 is finally starting to makes sense, 2 years after release :^) | 20:09 |
| Stskeeps | i'd still wait a bit | 20:09 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:09 |
| Stskeeps | we're making giant steps currently though | 20:09 |
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| tekonivelo | like the UI graphics style concept | 20:10 |
| tekonivelo | perhaps those characters can be interacted with some day | 20:10 |
| tekonivelo | like they talk to you "hoi u has sms" | 20:11 |
| tekonivelo | or play games with them or something | 20:11 |
| Stskeeps | yes, it's the new notification system | 20:11 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:11 |
| * tekonivelo is dreaming | 20:11 | |
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| Stskeeps | kinda like clippy on drugs | 20:11 |
| tekonivelo | i'd love a playful phone interface like that... phones are too serious | 20:11 |
| tekonivelo | Stskeeps: aaaargh clippy! | 20:11 |
| tekonivelo | some japanese phone UI had a character that would run off the screen to "deliver" the messages you're sending | 20:12 |
| tekonivelo | and it would refer to other people's phone-avatars as it's friends | 20:12 |
| tekonivelo | i'd love it! :) :) | 20:12 |
| gabrbedd | tekonivelo: I heard someone's actually working on a Meegoan (sp?) themed game. | 20:12 |
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| gabrbedd | I can imagine them with voices like on South Park. | 20:13 |
| gabrbedd | "Oh, my god! They killed Carten! You bastards!" | 20:14 |
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| gabrbedd | s/Carten/Carsten/ | 20:14 |
| infobot | gabrbedd meant: "Oh, my god! They killed Carsten! You bastards!" | 20:14 |
| Stskeeps | what, they killed me? :( | 20:14 |
| gabrbedd | Don't they have South Park in Europe? | 20:15 |
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| Stskeeps | yes they do, but it's cartman and not carsten | 20:15 |
| Stskeeps | maybe it's carsten in germany | 20:15 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:15 |
| gabrbedd | Well, I was adapting it for MeeGo. :-) | 20:15 |
| Stskeeps | ;) | 20:16 |
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| CosmoHill | I thought he was called Kenny? | 20:16 |
| gabrbedd | (...and I think it was Kenny that was always killed)) | 20:16 |
| gabrbedd | CosmoHill: Beat me to it... | 20:16 |
| gabrbedd | Maybe it should be Thiago that gets killed every episode. | 20:17 |
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| Stskeeps | or gabrbedd | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:17 |
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| gabrbedd | :-) | 20:18 |
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| RST38h | moo, people | 21:47 |
| Stskeeps | m00 | 21:48 |
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| CosmoHill | |\/|oo | 21:52 |
| RST38h | how are things? =) | 21:55 |
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| CosmoHill | good | 22:10 |
| CosmoHill | poster is finished | 22:10 |
| RST38h | finished some things here too | 22:11 |
| RST38h | Firefox ate up 550MB, God have mercy on us all.. | 22:12 |
| CosmoHill | I'm doing things in the wrong order, your meant to do your dissertation first and poster second | 22:12 |
| CosmoHill | but the poster is pretty much guiding me through my dissertation | 22:12 |
| RST38h | Make sure you have got Tom Lehrer's "Lobachevsky" playing =) | 22:13 |
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| andre__ | DawnFoster: may I steal https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12589 from you by making myself the assignee? just an offer... | 22:45 |
| _MeeeGoBot_ | Bug 12589 nor, Undecided, ---, dawn.m.foster, NEW, Allow addition of 3rd party Components into bugs.meego.com | 22:45 |
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