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| Guest7035 | Attempting OBS registration for Meego gives: OBS Web Interface Error: | 05:43 |
| Guest7035 | Error Details: | 05:43 |
| Guest7035 | Errorcode: unknown | 05:43 |
| Guest7035 | Message: undefined method `create' for nil:NilClass | 05:43 |
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| araujo | Guest7035, try again? | 06:31 |
| iekku | morning | 06:32 |
| TSCHAKeee | evening fellas | 06:33 |
| TSCHAKeee | i have Orbiter running on MeeGo Core, and the Joggler. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRKkqxWcytI | 06:33 |
| araujo | morning iekku | 06:35 |
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| wassupnari | hello | 07:11 |
| wassupnari | is there anybody who have been used the virtual keyboard? | 07:12 |
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| Guest7035 | Now always gives: Use only letters a-z and/or digits 0-9 for username (with a legal username) | 08:24 |
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| timoph | Guest7035: that means that spaces and special chars like !"#¤, etc. are not allowed | 08:30 |
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| wassupnari | hi | 09:18 |
| wassupnari | Stskeeps : hello | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | morning wassupnari | 09:18 |
| wassupnari | I finally launch my apps! :D | 09:19 |
| wassupnari | thanx | 09:19 |
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| Stskeeps | no problem, glad to hear it :) | 09:19 |
| wassupnari | but there is another problem :( | 09:19 |
| wassupnari | i installed inputmethod*.rpm packages which are related with virtual keyboard, | 09:20 |
| wassupnari | and i changed some configurations and scripts | 09:20 |
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| wassupnari | if i launch sms or browser and focus on text input area, | 09:20 |
| wassupnari | then virtual keyboard pops up, but it is not working properly | 09:21 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, so that might be because you aren't using the mcompositor for instance, because of no GLES use | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | so windows doesn't pop up correctly | 09:22 |
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| Stskeeps | virtual keyboard is one of the places where this is used as it overlays another app | 09:22 |
| wassupnari | yes, it is.. then, do i have to install another packages? | 09:23 |
| TSCHAKeee | Stskeeps: vgrade: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRKkqxWcytI ;) | 09:23 |
| Stskeeps | wassupnari: not sure what exactly needs to be done but for this feature to run properly you need a working 3d acceleration | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | (i think) | 09:24 |
| wassupnari | okay, i'll find out :) thanx, though. | 09:25 |
| vgrade | TSCHAKeee, nice one | 09:26 |
| TSCHAKeee | still so much to do | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | wassupnari: do you have a screenshot by chance of how bad it looks when it's not "working properly"? | 09:27 |
| TSCHAKeee | but i had to make a gonzo kickstart, cobbled together from meego core, auke's repo for xfwm4, my orbiter packages, matchbox keyboard, and a fe other bits | 09:27 |
| wassupnari | then, do you have 2d/3d hw acceleration graphic library for TI OMAP4? | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | wassupnari: i think it actually exists | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | i'll ask around | 09:28 |
| wassupnari | okay | 09:28 |
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| wassupnari | i cannot capture the screen shot, but it shows keyboard and app, repeatedly | 09:29 |
| Stskeeps | o | 09:29 |
| Stskeeps | k | 09:29 |
| wassupnari | did you already know this symptom? | 09:30 |
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| Stskeeps | i haven't tried software rendering lately | 09:30 |
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| Stskeeps | wassupnari: so basically, you need to get the SGX kernel module built for your device and add in the SGX libraries somehow. i think TI calls it Graphics SDK | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | wassupnari: and then make sure libGLESv2.so.2 symlink -> libGLESv2.so and libEGL.so.2 symlink -> libEGL.so | 09:31 |
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| wassupnari | unfortunately, we don't have graphic SDK yet. | 09:32 |
| Stskeeps | i think it was released recently | 09:32 |
| wassupnari | isn't that for the OMAP3? | 09:32 |
| Stskeeps | it is for omap4 too, i believe | 09:32 |
| wassupnari | could you let me know the link? | 09:33 |
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| Stskeeps | trying to, my laptop is acting up a little bit so can't browse so easily | 09:33 |
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| wassupnari | okay, i can wait :) | 09:34 |
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| Stskeeps | http://www.imgtec.com/powervr/insider/sdkdownloads/index.asp , scroll down to "TI OMAP3430/4430 (inc. Nokia N900 & BeagleBoard and PandaBoard)" | 09:35 |
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| wassupnari | good! appreciated it :) | 09:37 |
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| Stskeeps | good luck with it, haven't tried it myself, but get some simple 3d demos up and it should be easier with meego | 09:38 |
| wassupnari | okay, i'll let you know if i succeeded it! | 09:39 |
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| vgrade | wassupnari, not sure if they have fixed this but I had to add ARCH=arm to the kernel module build line | 09:40 |
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| wassupnari | vgrade : thanks for your additional comment :) | 09:41 |
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| Stskeeps | wassupnari: also, if you get it working and see corrupted fonts in handset UX, let us know as soon as possible :) | 09:41 |
| Stskeeps | it's a bug we're chasing | 09:41 |
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| wassupnari | okay, i'll let you know :) | 09:54 |
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| girishr | anyone here know about the meego/qt at http://download.meego.com/live/Trunk/standard/src/ ? | 10:17 |
| girishr | is qt-4.7.1-7.6.src.rpm meant for any specific device? | 10:18 |
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| thiago | girishr: it's generic | 10:30 |
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| girishr | thiago_home: ok, so the folks who make a device will pick that up and put more patches on them if needed? | 10:33 |
| girishr | basically, i tried it on the wetab and mouse event delivery is broken | 10:33 |
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| girishr | i am wondering what exactly those packages are being tested with | 10:34 |
| thiago_home | they shouldn't have to patch | 10:34 |
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| Stskeeps | i think there's a problem with some of the X drivers and xinput2 | 10:35 |
| Stskeeps | not giving proper labels | 10:35 |
| girishr | thiago_home: is the touch support stable across devices? | 10:35 |
| thiago_home | what Stskeeps said | 10:35 |
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| girishr | as i understand, the whole touch thing on X is a moving target. so i assume device makers with add patches on top of the above Qt. did i assume right? | 10:36 |
| Stskeeps | girishr: basically it's better to get the X input drivers working properly, as it should work properly then | 10:37 |
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| girishr | thiago_home: Stskeeps: ok, thanks | 10:38 |
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| jjo | I guess this might have been here already: http://www.digia.com/C2256FEF0043E9C1/0/405002251 | 11:30 |
| * Stskeeps reads | 11:31 | |
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| Stskeeps | is this a good or a bad thing? | 11:31 |
| jjo | I'm going to sai good, but I'm not sure :) | 11:32 |
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| timeless_w7ip | ok, so i think mxr.meego.com/meego.gitorious.org/ will now actually update periodically | 11:35 |
| timeless_w7ip | (well, except for the linux-mssf tree which will cause it to get stuck each time it tries to update, but...) | 11:35 |
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| timeless_w7ip | stskeeps: having a defined future is more or less a good thing | 11:37 |
| timeless_w7ip | also, it provides for some useful contractual obligations | 11:37 |
| Stskeeps | true | 11:37 |
| timeless_w7ip | what's interesting in that announcement is that it seems that nokia will continue to do core Qt work | 11:37 |
| timeless_w7ip | TrollTech has always had 2 groups | 11:38 |
| timeless_w7ip | (well ignoring embedded) | 11:38 |
| timeless_w7ip | Core and Consulting | 11:38 |
| timeless_w7ip | it looks like Digia has bought out the Consulting side | 11:38 |
| timeless_w7ip | (there's a better word than 'consulting', but it's too early for me to come up w/ it) | 11:38 |
| * timeless_w7ip sighs | 11:40 | |
| timeless_w7ip | "oops" | 11:40 |
| timeless_w7ip | i manually updated sources | 11:40 |
| timeless_w7ip | then i killed a stuck task in a cron script which was trying to update sources | 11:40 |
| timeless_w7ip | then i manually started a pair of indexing tasks | 11:40 |
| timeless_w7ip | but! | 11:41 |
| dm8tbr | ah the whole digia thing already turned up here | 11:41 |
| * dm8tbr tries to understand what this means | 11:41 | |
| timeless_w7ip | the cron script has rules to do automatic updates of those indices, which it started performing once it got past the stuck task | 11:41 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: "nothing much" ;) | 11:42 |
| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: *nod* still the doomsday-nay-sayers will have a fest over this :) | 11:43 |
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| jarkko^ | sorry for dumb question but how can someone license something if that instance does not own it :) do they pay some royalties to nokia from license purchases or what? | 11:51 |
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| Stskeeps | jarkko^: possibly? | 11:52 |
| Stskeeps | http://qt.nokia.com/merge_requests/agreement/ | 11:52 |
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| bunk | timeless_w7ip: "for the next year" | 11:53 |
| bunk | N needs Qt for another 1-2 years, so it's no surprise they'll support Qt during that time | 11:54 |
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| ahiemstra | bunk: the question is though: will they be doing new development or merely maintenance? | 11:55 |
| jonnor | bunk: you seem to be forgetting that Nokia is transitioning _to_ Qt on their lower-end devices | 11:56 |
| jarkko^ | s/license something/sell commercial licenses of something/ | 11:56 |
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| jarkko^ | ahiemstra: if you read labs blog or track gitorious, you'll see that new development is done all the time | 11:57 |
| jarkko^ | so answer to that question is easy to dig | 11:58 |
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| ahiemstra | jarkko^: sure, there is currently still new developments going on | 11:58 |
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| ahiemstra | considering a lot of that will be projects that have been started before the entire wm7 thing | 11:59 |
| bunk | ahiemstra: wp, not wm (different OS) | 11:59 |
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| ahiemstra | not really | 12:00 |
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| bunk | Well, wp = wm would be like e.g. maemo = MeeGo | 12:02 |
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| bunk | jonnor: You are talking about non-Symbian platforms? | 12:04 |
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| girishr | Stskeeps: indeed, it seems label mapping is not happenning correctly | 12:23 |
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| -verne.freenode.net- [freenode-info] if you're at a conference and other people are having trouble connecting, please mention it to staff: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp | 13:03 | |
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| timeless_w7ip | bunk: nokia's volume is S30/S40 | 13:15 |
| timeless_w7ip | presumably the margins are better in symbian, but volume isn't there | 13:15 |
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| quaker | Has anyone managed to install MeeGo SDK in Debian Squeeze? To be able to build an app in a specific target (i.e netbook ia32) and then with the appropriate runtime to emulate the app? | 13:26 |
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| quaker | I tried both with amd64 and i386 Debian Squeeze, but i failed. On the other hand, i installed the SDK in Fedora 14 and it went smoothie. | 13:28 |
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| wazd | Hello all | 13:41 |
| RST38h | Nokia sells Qt licensing/support business to Digia | 13:41 |
| RST38h | EHLO wazd | 13:41 |
| wazd | Rst38h: orly | 13:41 |
| wazd | Rst38h: o/ | 13:41 |
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| Stskeeps | RST38h: makes sense | 13:43 |
| Stskeeps | moo wazd | 13:43 |
| wazd | Rst38h: well, not the worst news evah :) | 13:44 |
| wazd | Stskeeps: heya | 13:44 |
| wazd | I've recently bought fancy "meecast.com" domain :P | 13:45 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 13:45 |
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| wazd | Stskeeps: we're looking for rebranding opportunities with omweather :) | 13:46 |
| wazd | Stskeeps: cause "omweather" is really weird name imo | 13:47 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 13:47 |
| RST38h | wazd: Better add more features :) | 13:47 |
| lcuk | wazd, omweather still needs the "I looked out of the window and it is not snowing" button! | 13:47 |
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| * RST38h starts chanting "ommmmm.... | 13:48 | |
| RST38h | lcuk: Simply change your locations from "Yakutsk" in the settings | 13:48 |
| wazd | Lcuk: that involves dedicated server, moderator, cms and lots of other stuff :) | 13:48 |
| lcuk | wazd, do we know anyone who perhaps has written/created/managed a great cms system ? | 13:49 |
| wazd | Lcuk: I know one guy, but he's extremely busy :) | 13:49 |
| wazd | Lcuk: like totally :) | 13:49 |
| lcuk | wazd, of course, people are always busy | 13:50 |
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| lcuk | incidentally, I am thinking of bergie, who are you thinking of? | 13:50 |
| wazd | Rst38h: havemyou seen my Marina theme for OMW? :) | 13:50 |
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| RST38h | wazd: No, did notevenknow it was themeable | 13:51 |
| wazd | Lcuk: non-community dude :) | 13:51 |
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| wazd | Rst38h: yeah, and that's one of the problems - hard to discover new functionality after update | 13:52 |
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| wathek | zalbisser, hi how are you ? | 13:53 |
| wazd | Rst38h: settings - widget style | 13:53 |
| RST38h | aha | 13:53 |
| lcuk | ahh good, bug 13833 is marked blocking 10753 | 13:54 |
| _MeeeGoBot_ | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13833 nor, Undecided, ---, ilkka.koskinen, NEW, N900 operating at 500mhz, 16% slower than Maemo | 13:54 |
| Jaffa | wazd: Long time no see! (Don't suppose you fancy drawing an icon for the Maemo Community SSU - currently we're using the "update" icon? http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | 13:55 |
| lcuk | bug 10753 | 13:55 |
| _MeeeGoBot_ | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10753 maj, High, ---, huan.zheng, NEW, video playback is not smooth | 13:55 |
| wazd | Jaffa: hey there | 13:56 |
| wazd | Jaffa: with pleasure :) | 13:56 |
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| bergie | lcuk: happy to be thought of :-) | 13:59 |
| lcuk | :) | 13:59 |
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| RST38h | Jaffa: BTW,has the problem with CSSU breaking "apt-get upgrade" been fixed? | 14:06 |
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| Jaffa | RST38h: Define "breaking apt-get upgrade" | 14:07 |
| Jaffa | RST38h: There's https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11831 but no-one has been able to provide reproduction instructions | 14:07 |
| povbot | Bug 11831: Removal of mp-fremantle-*-pr breaks apt autoremover | 14:07 |
| _MeeeGoBot_ | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11831 nor, Undecided, 1.2, max.a.yu, RESO FIXED, [Windows] QtCreator can't start Qemu in MeeGo SDK 1.2 preview-1224. | 14:07 |
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| RST38h | wazd: wind direction circles are off in your theme | 14:08 |
| RST38h | wazd: both vertically and horizontall (a little bit) , I am afraid =( | 14:08 |
| RST38h | Otherwise, switching to it whenever ready (Digia stuff is too heavy) | 14:09 |
| wazd | Rst38h: off? You mean invisible? | 14:09 |
| RST38h | Jaffa: Once I install the CSSU, apt-get upgrade starts offering to delete base system packages as "not being required by any package in the system" | 14:09 |
| wazd | Rst38h: or misplaced?) | 14:10 |
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| RST38h | wazd: Now, offset a little bit | 14:10 |
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| RST38h | misplaced if you wish | 14:10 |
| RST38h | Jaffa: Yea, 11831 is what I am talking abot | 14:10 |
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| Jaffa | RST38h: Reproduction instructions welcome :-) | 14:10 |
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| RST38h | Jaffa: 1) Install CSSU; 2) run apt-get upgrade; 3) Watch apt-get offer you to break stuff, badly | 14:12 |
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| Stskeeps | isn't this more of a #maemo talk? | 14:12 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:12 |
| RST38h | More or less, yes | 14:13 |
| RST38h | It is a slow day though, so we are probably not disrupting dead things too much :) | 14:13 |
| Jaffa | RST38h: I did that immediately after a clean PR1.3 reflash and on my N900 and cannot reproduce. Neither can MohammadAG. Anyway, as Stskeeps says, this is better for #maemo-ssu | 14:14 |
| wazd | Rst38h: ah, yes, we're working on it :) | 14:14 |
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| lcuk | Recent ia32 images for daily-testing have not been including a pinetrail image (most likely because they are not working), however a generic ia32 image is there | 14:16 |
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| lcuk | does anyone know what the differences are? | 14:17 |
| lcuk | http://download.meego.com/testing-daily/builds/trunk/1.1.90.6.20110304.81/images/ | 14:17 |
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| RST38h | wazd: No plans to expand to other widgets, as we discussed a while ago? | 14:22 |
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| lcuk | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/07/kirk_discovery/ heh | 14:23 |
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| RST38h | Well, nice, except that it is the last Discovery launch... | 14:25 |
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| lcuk | RST38h, yes but since many equate space travel with star trek think it is nice :) | 14:26 |
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| RST38h | "Alien" feels like a much better approximation to me... | 14:26 |
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| lcuk | RST38h, did you happen to see the piece of 2001 inspired art recently? | 14:32 |
| lcuk | an 8 foot monolith, actually a huge VHS video tape of 2001 | 14:32 |
| * lcuk finds link | 14:32 | |
| lcuk | http://www.xclusiveworld.com/artist-transforms-2001-vhs-tape-into-a-real-life-black-monolith.html | 14:33 |
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| ali1234 | um how can it be a VHS tape if it's 8 foot tall? | 14:34 |
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| ali1234 | i'm pretty sure VHS tapes are supposed to fit in VHS players | 14:35 |
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| lcuk | ali1234, they need to be that big for using in a cinema! | 14:36 |
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| lcuk | although using a broomstick to reset the clock in the VHS player is a PITA | 14:36 |
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| RST38h | lcuk: I prefer cassette tapes:) | 14:39 |
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| RST38h | The VHS ones just do not ring any bells (did not have VCR until 20 or so) | 14:40 |
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| lundtor | question: which package contains qemu? | 14:42 |
| lundtor | i have located the meego-sdk-qemugl-addon, but i lack to find qemu itself on which the addon is used | 14:43 |
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| wathek | Hi all I got a problem I cannot get gesture recognized with my QGraphicsObject I get this message QGestureManager::deliverEvent: could not find the target for gesture | 16:06 |
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| lcuk | wathek, still stuck on circle gesture? | 16:30 |
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| wathek | lcuk, I got an other problem with the QGraphicsObject I cannot grab gesture and I'm getting this message : QGestureManager::deliverEvent: could not find the target for gesture | 16:31 |
| wathek | it makes me mad | 16:31 |
| wathek | lcuk, I need to fix that first and then look at the circle gesture | 16:31 |
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| lcuk | wathek, is it related to: | 16:32 |
| lcuk | http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-14224 Gesture target not found when gesturing on parentless widget. | 16:33 |
| lcuk | which is one of the first things located after an internet search for the error message | 16:33 |
| lcuk | I believe on Friday I pointed you towards the code this error is raised from | 16:33 |
| lcuk | which would allow you (as a developer) to step backwards and work out how to work around/cure the issue | 16:34 |
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| wathek | lcuk, yep but that was with QGraphicsView which is a QWidget and actually I can grab gestures with my QGraphicsView and I don't have the message any more | 16:34 |
| wathek | lcuk, so I tried to do the same thing with QGraphicsObject and I'm getting the message | 16:34 |
| wathek | :( | 16:34 |
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| wathek | lcuk, and nope it doesn't seems to be related to that bug | 16:36 |
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| lcuk | wathek, ok, perhaps you could try follow up the searching yourself and maybe try the general #qt channel if no-one here can help | 16:38 |
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| wathek | ddenis could probably help me | 16:41 |
| wathek | but his not here unfortuantly :( | 16:41 |
| lcuk | all superheroes need downtime. | 16:42 |
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| lcuk | speaking of which | 16:43 |
| wathek | lol | 16:43 |
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| georgem | Nokia just sold Qt ?!?! | 16:51 |
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| pinchartl | georgem: only the commercial licensing and support part | 16:51 |
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| GAN900 | Wouldn't be surprised to see the rest go eventually. | 16:52 |
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| Stskeeps | morn qgil :) | 17:05 |
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| wathek | dd | 17:06 |
| qgil | hi there Stskeeps - I'm looking the news about Qt Commercial & Digia. Surprised by the negative reaction from some Qt lovers. I guess Slashdot's false statement isn't helping | 17:06 |
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| * TSCHAKeee yawns | 17:06 | |
| qgil | overall I think this move is good for the Qt project - and indirectly for the MeeGo project too (many Qt Commercial customers are potential MeeGo vendors) | 17:07 |
| Stskeeps | qgil: i think people are fairly calm since they read the original sources and understood what is going on.. but it got blown up and misunderstood by media as usual :) | 17:07 |
| TSCHAKeee | yeah, I think so too. | 17:07 |
| * Stskeeps thinks its an expected move that makes sense | 17:08 | |
| TSCHAKeee | qgil: Wanted to say, thanks for stopping by the LinuxMCE booth at SCALE. (it's Thom, here.) | 17:08 |
| qgil | "people"... my Twitter follows several insiders and as for now they seem to be more victims of that media rather than calm - oh well, as usual time will tell | 17:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | ...heh. | 17:09 |
| qgil | TSCHAKeee: hi! It was very good chatting with you | 17:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | likewise | 17:09 |
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| TSCHAKeee | does anyone know which package provides the boot splash on Netbook? | 17:29 |
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| Stskeeps | plymouth-lite | 17:29 |
| TSCHAKeee | oh ok thanks. | 17:29 |
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| lcuk | qgil, \o hope you managed to have yourself a good weekend | 17:38 |
| qgil | lcuk: I can't complain :) | 17:39 |
| lcuk | heh | 17:39 |
| lcuk | qgil, when you and Nokia moved into the new offices, there was news about how the workforce would be making use of local facilities, has this been working weel in your eyes? | 17:40 |
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| lcuk | well * | 17:40 |
| qgil | lcuk: what does "local facilities" mean? Anyway, I believe Sunnyvale downtown is noticing that we are here, yes | 17:42 |
| qgil | lcuk: I even got my last haircut in a loca business around the corner: fast and cheap ;) | 17:43 |
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| * Stskeeps looks forward to travelling around california for 14 days | 17:44 | |
| lcuk | heh excellent qgil, I am just trying to find the link | 17:44 |
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| lcuk | we were discussing it the other night | 17:44 |
| qgil | local business, I mean. "loca business" is actually a good name for a hairdresser in California - more in the drag queen style though | 17:44 |
| qgil | lcuk: what was the discussion about? Anyway, not very #meego topic I guess :) | 17:45 |
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| qgil | Stskeeps: if you come to California you must come to our house - it's a special local tax for certain foreigners | 17:46 |
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| lcuk | qgil, it was actually in maemo, but has parallels throughout industry | 17:47 |
| lcuk | lcukmikhas, Nokia building where qgil is are right in the heart of the town and do not include cafe and stuff afaik00:42 | 17:47 |
| lcuk | lcukI remember reading how it helps to integrate the workforce in with the surroundings and obviously also helps local economy00:42 | 17:47 |
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| lcuk | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2011-03-05.log.html#t2011-03-05T00:42:24 | 17:47 |
| Stskeeps | qgil: will certainly consider :) | 17:47 |
| lcuk | http://mynokiablog.com/2011/02/05/nokias-new-us-hq-in-sunnyvale-california-silicon-valley/ | 17:47 |
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| alterego | HQ ... | 17:48 |
| qgil | lcuk: most people go to restaurants at walking distance or elsewhere in Sunnyvale - some shopping at Target - internal events have been hiring local catering too. Not a lot more... but there is not a lot more in Sunnyvale downtown atm (Macy's) | 17:49 |
| alterego | Some people don't half write some crap on the internet. | 17:49 |
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| Hq` | maybe time to adjust my highlight settings :) | 17:49 |
| javispedro | Sunnyvale, like Palm HQs =) | 17:49 |
| lcuk | qgil, it just stood out as eing just another think Nokia are doing right :) | 17:51 |
| lcuk | being * | 17:51 |
| qgil | lcuk: what Jay seems to be missing in that post is that the new Sunnyvale site is formed by the unification of several sites Nokia had already scattered in different location in SF Bay Area. | 17:51 |
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| * lcuk prefer to look at positive side of things | 17:51 | |
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| lcuk | qgil, perhaps could put him right then since you are on the ground there so to speak :) | 17:52 |
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| qgil | lcuk: that news piece is a month's old now | 17:53 |
| lcuk | so enough time for people to expand on it and present as a new piece :P | 17:53 |
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| wathek | lcuk, you still there | 18:03 |
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| lcuk | The person you have requested is not at his seat, please leave a message after the beep and he will try to get back to you. | 18:03 |
| lcuk | BEEP. | 18:03 |
| wathek | lol | 18:04 |
| wathek | I need you just to confirm something | 18:04 |
| wathek | lcuk, http://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qt/blobs/v4.6.3/src/gui/kernel/qgesturemanager.cpp#line562 | 18:04 |
| wathek | that's the function that shows me the message QGestureManager::deliverEvent: could not find the target for gesture | 18:05 |
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| wathek | lcuk, and it seems to be logic since that my target is a QGraphicsObject and it looks for a QWidget | 18:05 |
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| wathek | am I wrong ? | 18:05 |
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| lcuk | wathek, the code does certainly indicate it is trying to use QWidget, but I do not know the specific difference and relationship between QWidget and QGraphicsObject, perhaps some of the many Qt experts around could try to investigate further | 18:08 |
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| diazo | hi there | 18:08 |
| diazo | has anyone ever tried meego with n900 | 18:09 |
| diazo | ? | 18:09 |
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| lcuk | diazo, I have meego on my N900 right now | 18:09 |
| timeless_office | lcuk: so... how does bug handling work? :) | 18:09 |
| timeless_office | e.g. bug 14221 | 18:09 |
| wathek | lcuk, QGraphicsObject is a class that inherits QObject and QGraphicsItem | 18:09 |
| _MeeeGoBot_ | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14221 nor, Undecided, ---, peter.j.zhu, NEW, keygen_set_std_prefs dangerously wastes 2 bytes per sym due to extra pointer qualifier in size_of ma | 18:09 |
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| diazo | lcuk: cool | 18:09 |
| diazo | lcuk: does the usb otg work? | 18:10 |
| diazo | lcuk: I mean, the host mode | 18:10 |
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| alterego | diazo: no | 18:10 |
| lcuk | diazo, not sure, if it is something you need to confirm, please check whether there is a FEA marked or a bug related | 18:10 |
| diazo | damn.. | 18:11 |
| diazo | k | 18:11 |
| diazo | thx for the info :) | 18:11 |
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| lcuk | timeless_office, you mean, how do you take your patch and get it integrated? | 18:12 |
| timeless_office | no | 18:12 |
| timeless_office | i mean how does someone ensure that my patch gets sent upstream | 18:12 |
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| timeless_office | or perhaps s/how does someone ensure/what ensures/ | 18:13 |
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| lcuk | timeless_office, depending on who or what upstream is in this context, you have to let them know that a patch exists | 18:15 |
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| timeless_office | well, s/you/meego/ | 18:16 |
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| lcuk | timeless_office, is your patch integrated on the meego build already, ie so that somebody could even try to progress it further? | 18:18 |
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| timeless_office | lcuk: nope, i don't care about meego or gnupg or whatever | 18:19 |
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| timeless_office | i'm filing bugs based on a coverity analysis that happens to contain meego code | 18:19 |
| timeless_office | and since i happen to have a public meego xref, i'm demoing how the xref works :) | 18:19 |
| timeless_office | by littering bugs.meego w/ reports that reference it :) | 18:19 |
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| lcuk | heh | 18:20 |
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| timeless_office | bug 14222 | 18:28 |
| _MeeeGoBot_ | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14222 nor, Undecided, ---, peter.j.zhu, NEW, ss_add_request_table dangerously wastes 4 bytes per size count due to missing pointer qualifiers in | 18:28 |
| * timeless_office notes that perhaps someone should add more components to bugzilla | 18:29 | |
| timeless_office | this peter guy is going to have a hard time doing anything | 18:29 |
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| * timeless_office finds an *awesome* allocation glitch | 18:42 | |
| timeless_office | lcuk: so far we have 2<->4, and 4<->8 | 18:43 |
| timeless_office | this next one is um.... 80<->4 | 18:43 |
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| timeless_office | linux is awesome | 18:45 |
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| Ans5i | y | 18:46 |
| timeless_office | ans5i: that was sarcasm fwiw | 18:47 |
| lcuk | timeless_office ok, so you have identified and fixed a number of core bugs which need following up on | 18:47 |
| lcuk | timeless_office, hopefully the guys on the bug itself will advance | 18:48 |
| * lcuk ccs to see how they progress | 18:48 | |
| timeless_office | the 80 one is coming up soon once i get the xref's done | 18:49 |
| * timeless_office frowns | 18:49 | |
| timeless_office | coverity took a wrong turn, that's lame | 18:49 |
| * timeless_office wonders how it did that | 18:49 | |
| timeless_office | it told me it found a size 80, but when i asked it to follow the trail it got me a much smaller critter ;( | 18:50 |
| timeless_office | s/;(/:(/ | 18:50 |
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| timeless_office | oh, no, i took the wrong turn! | 18:51 |
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| * timeless_office feels much better | 18:51 | |
| * timeless_office pats coverity | 18:51 | |
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| * timeless_office gets confused and moves on | 18:55 | |
| lcuk | timeless_office, does coverity scan and show up odd malloc things? | 18:56 |
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| timeless_office | coverity does all sorts of things | 18:56 |
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| timeless_office | what it's doing here is saying target type size is <x>, allocation unit is a multiple of <y> | 18:57 |
| timeless_office | when x and y don't fit well, it complains | 18:57 |
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| lcuk | that makes sense. | 18:57 |
| timeless_office | if someone intentionally sticks an extra buffer after a thing, then that'll be flagged because coverity has no way of understanding that it's intentionally evil | 18:58 |
| timeless_office | otherwise, it's generally right when it complains | 18:58 |
| CosmoHill | I got told that openssl reads from a random bit of memory, a program that read the openssl code didn't undersand why and flagged an error | 18:58 |
| CosmoHill | the program didn't know why it was there so he just commented it out | 18:59 |
| timeless_office | cosmohill: don't blame coverity for dumb users | 18:59 |
| timeless_office | that's debian-ssl | 18:59 |
| timeless_office | it's a classic | 18:59 |
| CosmoHill | this meant you had a 1 in 36K chance of guessing the key instead of 1 in billions | 18:59 |
| CosmoHill | timeless_office: yeah, that was in our security lecture | 18:59 |
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| timeless_office | we had an idiotic "let's clear coverity issues" crusade a couple of years back at nokia | 19:00 |
| timeless_office | i got some wonderful gems from it | 19:00 |
| CosmoHill | I'd of imaged there would have been a nearby comment explaing it | 19:00 |
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| lcuk | timeless_office, same for any scanning tool | 19:00 |
| CosmoHill | a scanning tool is like GPS, useful but you shouldn't turn your brain off | 19:00 |
| timeless_office | http://timeless.justdave.net/blog/159/ | 19:01 |
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| timeless_office | http://timeless.justdave.net/blog/160/ | 19:01 |
| lcuk | I used to run different scans in codebase for stuff, then manually check against each hit - but that only worked because I knew the code inside out and backwards so to speak | 19:01 |
| timeless_office | http://timeless.justdave.net/blog/161/ | 19:01 |
| timeless_office | those were the results of our coverity crusade | 19:01 |
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| timeless_office | cosmohill/lcuk: please read :) | 19:01 |
| * lcuk was doing | 19:01 | |
| timeless_office | they aren't advertised in my blog because i didn't necessarily "finish" them | 19:02 |
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| timeless_office | grr | 19:02 |
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| CosmoHill | timeless_office: they look cool even if a little over my head | 19:05 |
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| * lcuk hands timeless_office a /facepalm | 19:06 | |
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| lbt | timeless_office: so I think I'm on UK time... | 19:06 |
| timeless_office | lcuk: i'm expecting a couple :) | 19:06 |
| lbt | it's not 5pm... it's 7pm | 19:06 |
| timeless_office | lbt: yeah, that's ok | 19:06 |
| lbt | which also explains why it's dark, quiet and I'm hungry | 19:07 |
| timeless_office | can we eat @6pm UK time? | 19:07 |
| timeless_office | oh wait | 19:07 |
| timeless_office | if you're hungry now, then "Let's Eat" | 19:07 |
| lbt | sure | 19:07 |
| timeless_office | i have one item i'd like to file first, but i can file it while you walk over here :) | 19:07 |
| lbt | OK | 19:07 |
| timeless_office | e3 at the back, "i'll leave the light on for you" | 19:07 |
| CosmoHill | if(hungry) { eat(); } | 19:07 |
| CosmoHill | if(hungry && !diet) { eat(); }; | 19:08 |
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| gabrbedd | CosmoHill: for(;;) { ++pancakes; } | 19:09 |
| CosmoHill | it's pancake day tomorrow \o/ | 19:09 |
| lcuk | ahem, while(1){ bacon++; } | 19:09 |
| lcuk | lbt, you need a big watch | 19:09 |
| CosmoHill | you'd just have infinate bacon and pancakes | 19:10 |
| lcuk | try writing the current time on your wrist! | 19:10 |
| lcuk | ;) | 19:10 |
| gabrbedd | lcuk: Doesn't that fail for small values of 1 ? | 19:10 |
| CosmoHill | while(1) { bacon++; eat(bacon); }; | 19:10 |
| lcuk | lbt, having it updating on its own would be cool | 19:10 |
| berndhs | double fat (double weight) { if (hungry || !hungry) { return weight + eat() + eat(); }} | 19:11 |
| lcuk | right, I have to install stuff on this n900 | 19:11 |
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| lcuk | and thanks to aard, also on my ideapad | 19:11 |
| lcuk | bbl \o | 19:12 |
| X-Fade | lcuk: A lcuk I totally for to tell you about ... | 19:12 |
| CosmoHill | if ( weight < 70) /*Kg*/ goto(FRIGDE); | 19:12 |
| lcuk | X-Fade, could you try English please? | 19:12 |
| lcuk | btw, hi \o | 19:12 |
| X-Fade | lcuk: Bacon dougnut :) | 19:12 |
| lcuk | mmmm | 19:12 |
| CosmoHill | sounds gross | 19:13 |
| X-Fade | lcuk: I had one at Voodoo dougnut in Portland ;) | 19:13 |
| lcuk | I have a huge slab of pork in the kitchen downstairs | 19:13 |
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| X-Fade | lcuk: http://voodoodoughnut.com/menu.php | 19:14 |
| lcuk | making it yesterday was awesome, we added about 100 baconstrips ontop | 19:14 |
| X-Fade | lcuk: Second one :) | 19:14 |
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| * timeless_office wonders if lbt got lost | 19:14 | |
| lcuk | mmm candy bacon | 19:14 |
| CosmoHill | X-Fade: 403 | 19:14 |
| lcuk | timeless_office, internal gps | 19:14 |
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| X-Fade | CosmoHill: Works for me. | 19:15 |
| CosmoHill | "There is no hotlinking of any kind allowed to or from this website. " :/ | 19:15 |
| X-Fade | Remove the page then. | 19:15 |
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| lcuk | I saw it too | 19:15 |
| CosmoHill | I have | 19:15 |
| X-Fade | http://voodoodoughnut.com/ -> Menu | 19:15 |
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| CosmoHill | still giving me 403 | 19:16 |
| lcuk | CosmoHill, perhaps your ISP is baconist | 19:16 |
| picasse | cisco http://is.gd/fk6zS | Docs: http://is.gd/3EtT | Mailing List: http://is.gd/3Eu | 19:16 |
| X-Fade | CosmoHill: New tab or other browser ;) | 19:16 |
| picasse | cisco http://informatiq-help.blogspot.com/2011/03/cisco-reseau-formation.html | 19:16 |
| CosmoHill | X-Fade: "要求されたディレクトリへのアクセス権限がありません。 インデックスドキュメントが存在しないか、 ディレクトリの読み込みが許可されていません。" | 19:17 |
| CosmoHill | wtf | 19:17 |
| CosmoHill | picasse: piss off | 19:17 |
| lcuk | reminds me of the liqbase graffiti wall :) | 19:17 |
| trip900 | /me hungers | 19:17 |
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| CosmoHill | X-Fade: I sent them an email that bounced :( | 19:21 |
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| X-Fade | CosmoHill: Corporate firewall? :D | 19:22 |
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| picasse | cisco http://informatiq-help.blogspot.com/2011/03/cisco-reseau-formation.html | 19:24 |
| CosmoHill | picasse: shoo | 19:24 |
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| lcuk | a reminder for tomorrow, schedule for Tuesday #MeeGo-Meeting is: | 20:23 |
| lcuk | Tuesday | 20:23 |
| lcuk | * QA Meetings: Every Tuesday at 07:00 UTC | 20:23 |
| lcuk | * SDK Meeting (Release): Every Tuesday at 08:00 UTC, 10:00 EEST | 20:23 |
| lcuk | * MeeGo Netbook Bug Triage Meetings: Every Tuesday at 13:00 UTC | 20:23 |
| lcuk | * Community Office Meeting: The 1st and 3rd Tuesday, alternating between 20:00 UTC and 15:00 UTC | 20:23 |
| lcuk | * Events Meeting: Every other Tuesday at 17:00 UTC | 20:23 |
| Stskeeps | that looks busy | 20:23 |
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| lcuk | tuesday and wednesay have numerous meetings | 20:24 |
| lcuk | http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo-Meeting_IRC_Schedule | 20:24 |
| lcuk | busiest days | 20:24 |
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| DawnFoster | but no community office meeting since this is the 2nd Tues :) | 20:42 |
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| lcuk | DawnFoster, since I saw on twitter oyu are preparing to go on a roadtrip | 20:45 |
| lcuk | who will chair next weeks meeting?! | 20:45 |
| lcuk | errr s/chair/herd cats/ | 20:46 |
| DawnFoster | we actually moved the next CO meeting to the 4th Tues :) | 20:48 |
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| DawnFoster | http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Meetings | 20:48 |
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| DawnFoster | I have an internal intel open source event this week in the Oregon wilderness | 20:49 |
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| DawnFoster | and Friday I fly to Austin, Texas for sxsw | 20:49 |
| Stskeeps | that doesn't at all conjure up images of pagan worship or other rituals.. | 20:49 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:49 |
| timoph | :) | 20:49 |
| DawnFoster | ha! | 20:49 |
| DawnFoster | well, we will have werewolf :) | 20:50 |
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| CosmoHill | yay doggy | 20:50 |
| lcuk | DawnFoster, so it is an external internal meeting | 20:50 |
| lcuk | (re wilderness) | 20:50 |
| DawnFoster | lcuk: we hold people captive away from the office and Portland to prevent people from leaving the meeting :) | 20:51 |
| DawnFoster | It's about an hour away from portland 1.5 hours away from the Intel office | 20:51 |
| DawnFoster | 3 days of Intel open source goodness | 20:51 |
| lcuk | good stuff | 20:51 |
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| lcuk | DawnFoster, do you guys have a no technology rule for things like this, or is it part of the game to see who can get a signal | 20:53 |
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| DawnFoster | can't have a tech conference without tech :) | 20:54 |
| DawnFoster | they do a pretty good job of providing wireless for us | 20:54 |
| lcuk | that is stretching the definition of wilderness then :P | 20:54 |
| lcuk | half the fun is seeing how people cope without it! | 20:55 |
| javispedro | you're evil | 20:56 |
| * lcuk never said otherwise | 20:56 | |
| lcuk | DawnFoster, last time we went camping, nobody could get a phone signal | 20:57 |
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| DawnFoster | well, this is a really nice lodge sitting in the wilderness :) | 20:58 |
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| * gabrbedd can never find a wifi hotspot when backpacking in a national park... need to write congressman | 21:00 | |
| javispedro | I cannot find power outlets | 21:00 |
| thiago_home | they're usually on walls | 21:00 |
| javispedro | so I should write my representatives so that they put those "wall" things on parks... | 21:01 |
| pierce | walls? what is this, the middle ages? | 21:01 |
| thiago_home | the Helsinki airport lounge had these wireless charging stations | 21:01 |
| gabrbedd | javispedro: yeah, that too. Not to mention toilets.... | 21:01 |
| thiago_home | I didn't figure out how to use them | 21:01 |
| CosmoHill | you want floor sockets that would make a bear trap proud | 21:01 |
| gabrbedd | CosmoHill: Hmmm... electric fence to protect bear bags... | 21:03 |
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| Stskeeps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJT_ZbIjNfI <- want to run meego on ;) | 21:05 |
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| javispedro | that is hardly world's first transparent lcd, /me has one... (b&w that is...) | 21:06 |
| javispedro | biggest issue is that you either control illumination, or basically never read anything from it... | 21:07 |
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| javispedro | omg someone is implementing the wp7 metro UI using qtquick =) http://wiki.forum.nokia.com/index.php/Can_QtQuick_create_a_Windows_Phone_Hub | 21:09 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: i actually wondered about that.. | 21:10 |
| javispedro | Stskeeps: yeah, makes it use as a window to outside home questionable, but It works well for inwards use. | 21:11 |
| javispedro | (thinking "display" cabinet or the like) | 21:11 |
| gabrbedd | Stskeeps: I remember seeing something like it in the movie "Date Night". I remember thinking... "That looks so cool... but the lack of good contrast would get old really quick." :-) | 21:13 |
| arfoll | is anyone here familiar with soap and complex types? | 21:14 |
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| theriex | hello | 21:16 |
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| theriex | has anyone tried installing face recognition on mego 1.1? | 21:16 |
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| javispedro | (according to some other yt videos, it's not transparent lcd but transparent OLED, which would be a more interesting thing) | 21:17 |
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| lcuk | javispedro, everytime I look at wp7 I am reminded of original liqbase | 21:17 |
| lcuk | it must be the colorscheme | 21:18 |
| javispedro | lcuk: I think it's mostly because it is very "texty" UI; liqbase also is. And with the Nokia font as in those screenshots... | 21:18 |
| lcuk | liqbase also has many areas where captions do not fit :D | 21:19 |
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| javispedro | yeah. they quite copied you =) | 21:20 |
| lcuk | javispedro, standard font now gone, it is all personalised :) | 21:20 |
| lcuk | http://liqbase.net/liq.meego.r&d.n900.and.ideapad.fullspeed.20110220_011.jpg | 21:20 |
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| javispedro | lcuk: I know but since I first saw liqbase with the Nokia font, I will always remember it that way (even though I guess the "personalised" one was first ;) ) | 21:21 |
| lcuk | mentioned before to lbt about writing the time on your wrist, a hand written clock on your wrist would be awesome | 21:21 |
| lcuk | javispedro, yeah, Nokias Sans is great | 21:21 |
| javispedro | Meego Clock UX ;) | 21:22 |
| javispedro | (not a bad idea after all =) ) | 21:22 |
| lcuk | well it is scalable afterall :) | 21:22 |
| lcuk | from small to large | 21:22 |
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| lcuk | javispedro, most surprising was seeing mine and tracys handwriting together on a page :) | 21:25 |
| niala | hello | 21:25 |
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| niala | CosmoHill: hello reading fc a draw this we? | 21:26 |
| CosmoHill | niala: Reading 5 - 2 Middlebourgh | 21:26 |
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| lcuk | javispedro, it also helps in a way that it does not depend upon powervr | 21:29 |
| lcuk | so that tiny hardware could be usable :) | 21:30 |
| javispedro | yeah, I quite agree with that. | 21:30 |
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| javispedro | lack of a nonGL UI is probably quite a problem for (for ex.) Meego portability | 21:31 |
| * lcuk likes noteslate too :) | 21:32 | |
| lcuk | it appears that is hardware in need of an os | 21:32 |
| javispedro | oooh, good one. | 21:33 |
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| javispedro | ooooh, gadget lust starting | 21:34 |
| lcuk | heh | 21:34 |
| javispedro | I wanted a cheap largish eink ebook reader | 21:35 |
| lcuk | heh | 21:35 |
| lcuk | javispedro, i have to wonder how suboptimal rendering must be at the moment | 21:37 |
| lcuk | especially if the internals of the system are RGB oriented | 21:37 |
| javispedro | well, X11 has quite good support for monochrome =) | 21:37 |
| javispedro | actually, X11 probably has better support for monochrome than truecolor =) | 21:38 |
| lcuk | whether it is used is another issue | 21:38 |
| javispedro | yeah, like many other ebooks. | 21:38 |
| javispedro | however, according to the firmware page it does use linux. | 21:38 |
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| lcuk | yeah, most do | 21:40 |
| ali1234 | javispedro: you think? | 21:40 |
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| ali1234 | last time i tried to use X11 with a real monochrome display it failed hard | 21:41 |
| ali1234 | looks like nobody has tested monochrome in about 10 years and it's suffering from severe coderot | 21:41 |
| javispedro | that might be the case... :( | 21:41 |
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| * lcuk never expected to get colour working in liqbase o_O | 21:41 | |
| ali1234 | could also be a problem with the framebuffer driver i guess | 21:42 |
| lcuk | I did not think it would be practical | 21:42 |
| javispedro | ali1234: was going to say the same, fbdev... | 21:42 |
| javispedro | in fact I remember someone talking about the many problems using some eink controller via fbdev which explained why every other vendors used its own interface | 21:42 |
| RST38h | eink has problems with frequent updates | 21:43 |
| ali1234 | all the eink drivers in linux use defered framebuffer | 21:43 |
| lcuk | yes RST38h | 21:43 |
| ali1234 | so what they do is emulate a 8 bit display and then throw away the extra bits | 21:43 |
| RST38h | sucks. | 21:43 |
| javispedro | the fact that the controller is more like a vnc consumer instead of framebuffer doesn't help | 21:44 |
| lcuk | RST38h, I believe einki is actually based on the principle of sucking balls | 21:44 |
| RST38h | in a way | 21:44 |
| javispedro | not to tmention that the entire framebuffer abstraction doesn't work that well when clearing pixels is way slower than drawing them... | 21:45 |
| ali1234 | btw, i wasn't using eink, just defered framebuffer on usb | 21:45 |
| lcuk | are there any alternatives to the balls yet? | 21:45 |
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| lcuk | MEMS lever arms were once shown I believe | 21:45 |
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| lcuk | which give a rainbow effect without backlight | 21:46 |
| javispedro | there are many, though I do not know how they are from a commercial PoV | 21:46 |
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| javispedro | either way, looking at the relative success of the nook color and all the Amazon for XXX apps, I guess development might be slowing down on eink. | 21:47 |
| lcuk | they might be good if you could get them bistable | 21:47 |
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| lcuk | javispedro, battery life for eink is one of the real strong points at the moment | 21:49 |
| RST38h | But that is about it, as far as eink strong points are concerned | 21:49 |
| ali1234 | this is the best i could squeeze from x11 monochrome: http://al.robotfuzz.com/~al/g15/20100809_001.jpg (that blob to the right is the X11 cursor) | 21:50 |
| lcuk | and not really, readability | 21:50 |
| RST38h | that and the contrast ratio | 21:50 |
| lcuk | not having a backlight etc | 21:50 |
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| javispedro | ali1234: well it is working isn't it? ;) | 21:51 |
| ali1234 | more or less :) | 21:51 |
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| ali1234 | i had to hack X11 code to even get this far | 21:51 |
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| * javispedro likes the eink contrast ratio. very much. and outside usability. | 21:51 | |
| javispedro | in fact the first ebook reader I tried had crappy battery life because they didn't know how to do PM in Linux. | 21:52 |
| lcuk | that is a trend that has continued | 21:52 |
| lcuk | not through lack of effort, just pure number of variations | 21:53 |
| * lcuk still finds it odd how often compatability is broken | 21:53 | |
| lcuk | so that what works on one kernel breaks on a later one | 21:53 |
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| theriex | has anyone tried installing face recognition on meego 1.1? | 21:54 |
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| javispedro | unfortunately this noteslate thing rings my vaporware sense. sad, because the price is more or less right (I still remeber the +$800 eBooks...) | 21:55 |
| lcuk | javispedro, hence my observation | 21:55 |
| javispedro | (also note they say the WiFi model is > $99, but don't say exact price) | 21:55 |
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| jonnor | theriex: be more specific. If you are trying to install something, and want help, ask for that | 21:56 |
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| theriex | I'm trying to install PAM face authentication on meego 1.1 | 21:59 |
| theriex | so far i'm struggling on getting the dependencies | 21:59 |
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| theriex | is there any way to add aptitude repositories to zypper? | 21:59 |
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| jonnor | no | 21:59 |
| CosmoHill | javispedro: $800+ ebooks? you mean laptops? | 21:59 |
| javispedro | CosmoHill: no. one word: iRex | 22:00 |
| theriex | these are the dependencies i need | 22:00 |
| theriex | build-essential cmake qt4-qmake libx11-dev libcv-dev libcvaux-dev libhighgui4 libhighgui-dev libqt4-dev libpam0g-dev checkinstall | 22:00 |
| theriex | so far I managed to get cmake, the equivalent of build-essentials and libx11-devel | 22:00 |
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| theriex | and i'm compiling opencv atm | 22:00 |
| ali1234 | opencv is in the repositories | 22:01 |
| ali1234 | it's called "opencv" | 22:01 |
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| theriex | lol...yes it is | 22:01 |
| theriex | any idea on the others? | 22:01 |
| ali1234 | libqt4 is there obviously, but with a different name | 22:02 |
| timoph | qt-devel | 22:02 |
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| ali1234 | libhighgui probably will be the hardest bit, i've never heard of it | 22:03 |
| ali1234 | unless it is part of opencv? | 22:04 |
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| theriex | is there any way I can see if these are already on the system? | 22:04 |
| ali1234 | zypper search | 22:05 |
| theriex | thx | 22:05 |
| ali1234 | "i" means it is installed | 22:05 |
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| theriex | any idea if opencv comes with libcv-dev? | 22:08 |
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| lcuk | this is nice: | 22:16 |
| lcuk | http://science.slashdot.org/story/11/03/07/1953213/Scientist-Records-First-5-Years-of-His-Sons-Life-Analyzes-Language-Development | 22:16 |
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| * lcuk goes decorating | 22:26 | |
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| dazo | anyone seen this? http://www.digia.com/C2256FEF0043E9C1/0/405002251 | 22:30 |
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| thiago_home | yes | 22:30 |
| dazo | sounds good for Qt ... but seems Nokia have decided to withdraw itself out of Qt ... | 22:31 |
| thiago_home | not really, please see the complete story in the qt blog | 22:32 |
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| dazo | I see Nokia tries to soften the dramatic part of this ... but, after Nokia went to WP7, now selling out Qt parts ... I struggle to see that Nokia has long-term plans on anything else than WP7 | 22:34 |
| dazo | seems to me like Nokia will now focus on the hardware, get rid of the software part and let Microsoft tackle that with WP7 | 22:35 |
| thiago_home | dazo: think about this: Nokia is not divesting of its Qt R&D | 22:36 |
| thiago_home | there's a reason for that | 22:36 |
| thiago_home | but anyway, that's off-topic. MeeGo uses the open source version of Qt. | 22:36 |
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| thiago_home | hey timeless | 22:37 |
| dazo | yeah, Nokia has started to sail their own direction ... I *really* hope other mobile vendors will come with MeeGo ... but I'm not going to put money into a Nokia device in a long time again | 22:38 |
| * dazo don't want to go towards Android ... but that's the only real alternative to MeeGo - considering OS openness | 22:38 | |
| thiago_home | well, no one else has announced a MeeGo or MeeGo-like phone but Nokia | 22:38 |
| ali1234 | oh, they've announced it now? | 22:38 |
| RST38h | Aava | 22:39 |
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| thiago_home | RST38h: for consumers? I don't think a 2500€ proto is something consumers will buy. | 22:39 |
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| timeless_w7ip | hi thiago | 22:39 |
| RST38h | I doubt they created a company to sell$2500 phones to developers | 22:39 |
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| RST38h | Even though it looks like Intel's pocket company | 22:40 |
| thiago_home | in finland? | 22:40 |
| thiago_home | I'd guess more like a nokia-ecosystem company | 22:40 |
| thiago_home | like tieto, digia, roivio, etc. | 22:40 |
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| RST38h | with moorestown phones? Mhmmm | 22:41 |
| thiago_home | someone's gonna make a medfield phone, eventually | 22:41 |
| thiago_home | I'm just waiting to see who and whether they put MeeGo on it | 22:42 |
| RST38h | Future will tell | 22:42 |
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| zomgbie | After a "successful" installation of meego from usb to my lenovo netbook I get a "Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block $BLOCK_COUNT" when booting from disk (disk is definitely OK!) does this ring a bell for somebody? sr0 in meego the standard root dev? | 22:45 |
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| ali1234 | no | 22:46 |
| ali1234 | it's usually cdrom | 22:46 |
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| timeless_w7ip | lbt: bug filed. | 23:05 |
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| MOT0KA | Hello | 23:05 |
| lbt | timeless_w7ip: ta | 23:05 |
| MOT0KA | ta ? | 23:05 |
| timeless_w7ip | "thanks" | 23:05 |
| MOT0KA | French ? | 23:05 |
| timeless_w7ip | nah, british | 23:05 |
| MOT0KA | Okay ! :) | 23:05 |
| thiago_home | more like "thank ya" | 23:05 |
| timeless_w7ip | interesting | 23:06 |
| * timeless_w7ip only stores translations not proper expansions | 23:06 | |
| lbt | ta is a contraction | 23:07 |
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| lbt | :D | 23:07 |
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| jonnor | zomgbie: you can get this error/warning without it being a problem. What is the issue you're having? | 23:20 |
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